Candidates have been weighing in on both sides of the issue, including marco rubio. Who both said today they are not in favor of repealing a particular portion of our founding document. Al, how big a problem is Donald Trumps position on immigration for the party . Al it could be humongous. He sets an agenda and sticks with it. I have seen some loony ideas and Newt Gingrich is space colonies, i saw a democratic candidate told up a wrecked one time in a debate. But, this may be the most fraudulent proposal. The birthright, he wants to repeal the 14th amendment which is the dred scott decision. And it would cost 600 billion plus. This is the problem republicans have to deal with. John one thing you have to say for donald trump, he is going to play by the establishments rules. This is a detailed plan. You might think its unworkable and i think its not good policy, but its forcing republicans to react. And i think thats an interesting thing because none of the other ones have this level of detail on this rather important issue. Al you are right about that, except it is so loony. It is so crazy, it is so unworkable, it is so bad stop it is so bad. Not just the policy. You might disagree with the Health Care Proposal. This is 600 billion to deport 11 Million People. Thats how many people live in ohio. John i want to go through the scorecard, jindal agrees with trump. Lindsey graham, who thinks the rest of the plan is ready is kookoo agrees there should be no birthright citizenship. Santorum previously thought that was the case. And walker had fuzziness on this. Rubio, perry as we said, fiorina and bush said hes not for it. Huckabee and kasich said they are not for it. I have to say, at least i think from the republican standpoint its encouraging that so many of these characters are coming against trump on this issue and recognize the political suicide that it would be to go into a general election with this albatross. L this could be a gift for jeb bush. And does notrceful equivocate and keeps going the way he started. John i agree. Its a useful function that trump is serving in that sense, intentionally or not intentionally and forcing people to take sides. Its going to be interesting if trump goes does the same thing on areas of policy that he did on this, that will be fascinating to see how they all then react to trump or how many are going to get ahead of trump so they dont have to do that. Al and how it adds up. John lets move on. Here are four timeless words. No. Sleep, brooklyn. Brooklyn center, minnesota, walker announced to change the plans how americans get their health care. And he revealed this plan. Four big highlights. I said place there. I am sure that is not what it is called. Repealing obamacare, no big surprise there. He says he is going to give agebased tax credits. Tax credits if you are uninsured on the older side. No individual mandate. Going to let people buy insurance across state lines and going to reduce regulations in various unspecified ways. We can talk about the medicaid parts of this, too. But on the basic level, good policy or good politics . Al the politics are good for him, john, primary politics. For a couple of reasons. He is the most comprehensive plan on health care from the g. O. P. Side. There has been a lot of criticism on that. And scott walker has been , portrayed as a union barber. Bashar. Unionbasher. That broadens that. The policy is probably more problematic. Medicare, he doesnt touch on medicare. No cost. We dont know what the costs would be. Talking about preexisting conditions are much more complicated. 15. 8 Million People are insured today that werent two years ago. See how walkers plan stacks up. Shortterm politics, its pretty good. John he is going to get credit from some people for being this specific. And there are holes in this and there are blank spots and things we dont know, but he has done something as you point out that is a first among republican president ial candidates. Come out with a bigbold plan. Marco rubio, who wrote about his Health Care Plan today in politico, he issued a Health Care Proposal that was very bare bones and not well sketched out. This is much more detailed. I do think you are right about the fact that the fact there is no price tag attached and doesnt talk about medicare, those are two issues that are big policy problems and creates political problems. He eventually is going to have to talk about them. He has not done that yet. Al you are right. This is the basic architecture that other republicans will have to follow. Some of the details might be different. My guess is he has set the predicate for this debate. John i do not understand this thing and a lot of republicans put this forward, i do not understand nationalizing the Insurance Market and letting people buy across lines and talking about federalism. He has all kinds of statelevel, breaking into a lot of little programs and states having discretion in how it is administered and yet arguing for a big Insurance Market. I do not get how those two things can jibe. Al on the states stuff, so many of the insurers are regional insurers. I think there are holes in this and holes in obamacare. Health care, everybody is against whatever people propose, but they want changes. I give walker credit. I think he has stepped up. I think who will have a field day with this is ted cruz. When he gets around to coming around with his obamacare alternative is. Alternative. He will take a much more radical posture and get further to scott walkers right. Which is going to be a problem for scott walker down the road. L a semiwise man wrote today that ted cruz is the most underrated republican candidate in the field. Al a man wrote today, ted cruz is the most underrated republican candidate in the field. John you spend a lot of time reading emails in the bathroom. That is a strange thing to say but there is a story about how this company that did the backups for clintons private email server is a little mom and pop shop out in denver and had its backup server in their bathroom that they ran the server out of. The thing i want to talk to you about is how this email thing relates to Hillary Clintons political prospects and where it matters in iowa and new hampshire. I wrote a story after spending a few days with hillary saying she is doing things better than 2008 but this email is an overhang for her. Two a degree that she wants to deny. She says real voters arent paying attention. I hear that real voters are starting to worry about it. How much is the email matter for hillary clinton. How much is it really something in the early stages that is starting to take a toll on her . Al i heard a slight exaggeration but a lot of worry about professional democratic politicians. You captured those rank and file, including people who say i want to vote for her. Shes treating this as a legal problem by and large. She better start treating this as a political problem. John she said, i was at the fair with her and she was asked about it and she says no one brings this up in my town halls or meetings. Mark and i talked about it on the show, there is a big difference what they will say to their face versus what they are worried about. With the lead democrat, its not that they think she is corrupt, but worried what it might do to her general election viability. They think f. B. I. , hear classified and think this might be a problem. How big a problem is it . And creates space for joe biden, al gore and Bernie Sanders. Al absolutely right. You pointed out she is running a very Good Campaign than eight years ago, but this is more like, this is deja vu, this is the way they did it before. John denial. Nobody cares, no big deal. Its crazy if she continues to think that these things are isolated. People are worried about her baggage. They want to win in 2016 and worried about this could be another piece of baggage that weighs her down. Al you better take over. John in the world of sports, Lance Armstrong is still a dirty liar. And tom brady is a foul cheat and the National LaborRelations Board has declined to rule whether the northwestern Football Players can qualify as employees who can unionize. This ruling says that they are not voting against it and not voting for it. They said it would be too destabilizing if we granted union status trying to challenge the nature of College Sports and they are not doing anything. Is that the death knell . The death knell of the move professionalization in college . And if so, is that a good or bad thing . Al bad cases make bad laws and talking about the professionalization of sports and northwestern football team, they would have better off taking on the sisters of the poor. John oh al on the larger question, the idea that this is not a professionalization of College Sports any way, its all about money. Its all about professionalization. There are schools, northwestern being one of them, duke, that have student athletes. They are in the minority. John did you mention your college was wake forest . Al i did. John the case was strong and this is a profitmaking venture and the fact that the College Football and College Sports in general sm the fact that these students do not have the protections that professional players have. Protections in terms of health care and other things. Crime, i think. Its a crime, i think. And there is intellectual validity. You saw the heads of all the major athletic conferences cheering the nlrb for this ruling. That is the equivalent of the mafia cheering the cancellation of the organized crime task force. That tells you everything you need to be told about the effectiveness thing. The logic of this is going to be as College Sports gets more and more money, we will end up, its a question of when. Al its a financial racket. And they reschedule things and done away with old rivalries and has to deal with money and they are going to have to pay the price for that. John i think on the part of the nlrb, we are going to say boy, this would cause chaos and it would be disruptive and therefore going to take a pass and pocket veto the thing. It seems cowardly. And rule on the merit and not rule on disruption of the system. That is what it is designed to do. Cowardlyhey were very and craven in not addressing this thing on its merits, instead of on whether it made sense or not. Al but its not going to go away. John coming up, the pride of iowa, former senator tom harkin. No steaks, fries or pork chops on sticks. We will be right back. John we were out at the iowa state fair. I talked to former senator harkin who is a kardashian. I asked him, whamade hlary Clintons Campaign different than 2008. In 2008, the Clinton Campaign was like a 40,000 bombing run over iowa. And obama was down in the weeds. This year, hillary is down in the weeds. She is personally involved. The first two or three times she came to iowa, she went to small towns and rural areas and not des moines or cedar rapids. And that is powerful. She is personally involved. And the organization as they have set up in iowa, i got to tell you, one of the best i have ever seen. Joe as good as the obama operation in 2008 . A lot of the obama are in this organization. John i want to compliment you on your hat. Its cloudy today. John i have to ask where you got that hat because i want to get one of those. She spent an hour and a half here yesterday. No how hard she tries to get down low and meet people, between the security she has, the media that follows her, the celebrity that attends her, it is just hard for her to be a normal candidate. How does she get over that . She has. I was with her saturday and as the crowds came around, she found people to talk to. A woman with a disability, a woman involved in business endeavors. She does talk to people. Let me tell you something, hillary has come to iowa several times in little towns and have meetings. The press doesnt even know about it. John i saw her at the wing dining dinner and gave a very strong speech. Partisan speech, but a better speech than any of the times in 2007 and made a couple of jokes there about her emails. About how things appear and was very combative. Do you think thats the right tone for her to strike on this subject . I do get around the state quite a bit. I have not heard one time anyone ever ask me about the emails. They talk to me about the economy. They talk to me about education and cost of college for their kids, opportunity. And agriculture. But to be honest with you, i have never heard one person come up to me and talk to me about these emails. Its not a factor. John is it a distraction or partisan issue . I dont think there is a serious issue with these emails. The republicans have nothing else right now remember whitewater how they tried to gin that up. They feel they have to pin something on her. And they are afraid that hillary will be our nominee. I served with hillary in the senate and i served on a committee with her and i saw her up close working. And her ability to fight for families and kids, but the ability she has and that is to reach across the aisle and work with republicans to get things done. Shes very good at that. And we need that in washington. We need more of that. John yesterday there was some complaint here among some democrats that she doesnt get up and do the soap box but did it last time. Barack obama never did it. A lot of that is overblown. John you, mr. Iowa, saying the soap box is overblown. I used to do it all the time. Its fun. But if i were running like that, i would be more interested in going out listening and talking to people instead of getting on the soap box. John the guy that did the soap box on saturday was Bernie Sanders. Marched right up here down grand avenue with a lot of people behind him. What do you think of sanders potential in iowa . Do you think he has a chance to catch fire here . Obviously, he has caught fire, here and other places too. I love Bernie Sanders and he was on my committee in the senate. He and jane are personal friends of mine. I called him and said i was going to endorse hillary. He is providing not only a valuable service to on our party but the country and talking about the growing inequality in our country and that is the issue. The question is who would be best in the white house to get the job done and move the ball down the field in closing that gap and thats why i think hillary has more of an ability to do that. John is he a significant political threat to her . I dont see that as a political threat. I think its more of building the kind of constituency that we are going to need in the general election. John you ran in 1992. Some guy by the name of bill clinton beat me. John can you imagine what it would have been like, then candidate clinton and you guys would have had to fight it out here in iowa . He wouldnt have had a chance. John thanks very much. After the break, a simple question. Do you believe in magic . The Washington Post asked on birthmps comments certificates. Everybody knows georges history with sorcery. You dont know . Let us take you through the classic childrens tale of george bush and the magic wand. A farawayon a time in place, lived a boy who dreamed of the presidency. His name was jeb bush and he wanted people to believe. With a magic wand up his sleeve. He made people forget his ties with his brother. The iraq war . No problem. He said abracadabra and audios to the quiet meyer. Would he do then what he did now if he knew . Jeb bush waved his magic wand and changed megan foxs of you. By wishing incantations, jeb made the dissent no more. His association brought lame, so he indulged in some sorcery and disengaged with his surname. But there was one thing he could not handle which grew stronger and stronger with each punitive handle. Jeb waved a hand his wand, but he could not wipe out trump. Music] mpet and just before the caucus at the 11th hour, jeb bush tried out eureka and slunk into trump tower. He reared back and shot a spare spell at the donalds hair. 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