Rubios on marco position on abortion. Mrs. Clinton when one of their candidates, a much younger man, a senator from florida, says there should be no exceptions for rape and incest, that is as offensive and as troubling a comment as you can hear from a major candidate running for the presidency. John mark, we thought that marco rubios no exception stance, which is shared by scott walker and mike huckabee, we thought that was a deal when we first heard it, but how vulnerable do you think they left themselves . Mark very vulnerable. John mccain did not have it. Mitt romney did not. It does not affect that many women in the country, but the polls are clear in this issue, and these guys taking this position, Hillary Clinton wants to be on offense, and there is a rumbling that she is not doing very well on some issues, and person who agrees with her is jeb bush. His campaign thinks that this position would be lethal in a general election. John this has been part of the reason they have lost five of the last six votes, and she will win the womens vote if she is the democratic nominee, but this is a huge goal of hers going forward. Youre obviously right. The planned parenthood issue i think is on her side. This issue is 150 on her side. This is a crazy position to be in. Mark rubio was a little unclear cnn interviewte, and even the meet the press yesterday where he said he did not support exceptions for women who have abortions who are victims of rape or incest, that he went over the line enough for her to seize on it, and her calling him a much younger man is filled with meaning, complicated meaning. John and the rubio opinion is being characterized in many different ways, and what youre not hearing is the Rubio Campaign standing up and saying, no, that is not our position. Mark and Hillary Clinton was there to promote her new plan to make college more affordable, spending 350 billion over a decade, and it would increase states support, and it would do unpaid students debt after 20 years, and it would be paid for, she said, by eliminating Tax Deductions for rich people which the campaign is right now not outlining. Is this a good plan, after Bernie Sanders and Martin Omalley have also done this . John i think it is a good plan politically and substantially, because there is no issue that troubles middleclass households more than the explosive rise in tuition costs in america. There are many issues, but that one cuts to the core. It is off the charts. The inflation of college tuition. This plan is to say that you universities, you have suffered from state budget cuts. We will give you money to help make up that shortfall if you rein in tuition costs. That is a bargain a lot of them would take. Mark and not wise politically, republicans able to attack her, and i do not think it is good policy. If Hillary Clinton is president , john boehner will likely be speaker of the house, and to be paid for by unspecified taxes, i do not think it will give her a mandate. John she seems to be suggesting itll be paid for by capping itemized deductions of rich people. All right, on morning joe, donald trump again said he would not apologize to megyn kelly. Mr. Trump i do not understand it, myself. I have doubledigit leads, and georgia came out 34. A lot of good things are happening, so maybe i should leave it the way it is. The fact is, she asked me a really inappropriate question, and she really should be apologizing to me, if you want to know the truth. John we get asked this question almost every day, but where is Donald Trumps political standing right now . Mark there is no live call poll. All of the polls that have been put out so far with different methodologies suggest that donald trump is doing just fine. He has not been hurt by this. The establishment thinks donald trump is dead, but i think if anything, if he turns back to policy, which his Campaign Says he is going to do in the coming days, he turns back to talking about the economy, i do not think this will end his campaign or force him from the race or affect substantially where he is. John i agree with most of that, except what has happened in the last days, it has increased the boldness of the republican establishment to do something about him. The republican establishment is overrated and has atrophied, and something that was riling them up, it is donald trump. Mark jeb bush has been more aggressive as of late, but they are still not finding a way to actually eliminate him from the race. He has yet to start spending money, yet to find anybody who can stop him from dominating the news. John i think there is a question, and we will see how he answers it, whether he will do any of those things and qualify as serious in terms of policies and other things, but there is no question it will take a while to drive him from the race. The question is if all of this damage will pile up and take its toll. Mark if you want to be republican nominee for president , you play nice with fox news. Since the debate, mr. Trump has not followed that news, but today, he just tweeted this. His word is always a good exclamation point. There are reports that he is going to go on some fox programs in the next couple of days. Does donald trump in order to be the republican nominee need to be on good terms with fox news . John i think, yes. There are too Many Republican voters who watch fox news all of the time. Gabe sherman, who wrote a book about him and who knows that company well, freaked out by the amount of protrump, antimegyn kelly mail they have received. When trump didnt go on any fox shows, he realized he had to call and get on. Mark if the reporting is correct on the website, then trumps power is stronger than we thought. They almost never undermined megyn kelly. It will be interesting when he goes on fox what those are like. And they have not eliminated the situation about the comments about blood. They are worried. John coming up, greatest hits, with a special guest soloist after this word from our sponsor. Mark Hillary Clinton cooked up quite a storm, and she was there to talk about college loans, and she made her comments about reproductive rights and donald trump, and lets go to the videotape. Mrs. Clinton what donald trump said about megyn kelly is outrageous, what the rest of republicans are saying about all women is also outrageous. A lot of men on that stage said was offensive. And i want people to understand, if you just focus on maybe the biggest show man on the stage, you lose the thread here. I do not want people here to be confused about outrageous comments by one and just say we are focused on this, and we are going to let the fact that there should be no exceptions for rape or incest go unnoticed or unmentioned i am not going to let that happen. I know it makes great tv. I think the guy went way overboard, offensive, outrageous, pick your adjective, but what marco rubio said has as much of an impact in terms of where the Republican Party is today and anyone else on that stage, and it is deeply troubling, and it should be to the press and not just those of us who have been doing this work so long. Mark fired up, and i would say authentic. We will talk about that with our friend dan joining us from washington. Thank you for coming in. Dan my pleasure. Mark what do you think the motivation would have been . Dan the motivation is pretty clear. She wants to make this more than a campaign about donald trump, she wants to continue to make the a fight against Republican Party, and putting away from donald trump but also going after others, who she probably believes are more likely to be her opponent than donald trump. Hasn every republican sha said something to the effect that donald trump is not affecting the party. Donald trump is just donald trump. And this seems to be an instance where this is different, that he is creating a springboard for a broader argument. Dan i think that is right, and the candidates have been tentative in going after donald trump. They make their statements after he said Something Like you did about megyn kelly, but then they back off and go their own way for a variety of reasons, and we can discuss that, but what Hillary Clinton is doing is trying to say that donald trump is not unrepresentative of the others in the race, that they are in one way or another saying things that are out of the mainstream or beyond the pale, whatever rhetoric she might use, and she went specifically after marco rubio, and some see in marco rubio the potential to be a strong candidate, and i think the rubio people think regardless of what he said and how he said it about the rape and incest exceptions that he has left himself some wiggle room on that in the future, but she is wasting no time in trying to pin all of their ears back. Mark dan, none of us know what is going on with donald trump, and none of us know where it will end up, but what other campaigns feel, they are obviously sick. The candidates are sick of answering questions about it. Is there a trump strategy, or are they doing other things and hoping that trump does not dominate . Dan i think they have to do the bare minimum when he is quite outrageous in his comments, but i think most of them believe one way or another, he will sink under his own weight, that he will be the engine of his own undoing and that they need not do anything in particular. They want to run their own race. They want to say things the way they say them. As you said, they are sick and tired of people asking them about donald trump, but we are all of a mind that we cannot predict how this trump candidacy is going to go. Whether it will go up or down or state level, but as long as he is a factor, it has a potential to rub off on the whole party, and i think that is what they are trying to calibrate. John there have been some surveys that say he is at least as good as he has before or better off. Would this cause campaigns to rethink that strategy . He is acting under his own way to now. What do you think would come along that would cause him to sink . Dan i dont know, john. I think it is a central question about where we are in the campaign right now. And what he said about john mccain a few weeks ago, i thought that would cause him problems. It clearly did not. I think what he said about megyn kelly would cause him problems, and we do not know. The early indication is that it has not particularly hurt him, but we will have to see. Where the air slowly comes out of his balloon or whether it stays afloat for a while, but i think the longer the poll numbers show that he is holding up, that will embolden donald trump to continue to do exactly as he has been doing, to run the campaign he has been running, to say the kinds of things he wants to say in any given moment, and it will force others to rethink what they want to do about it. Mark dan, thank you very much, and we will be right back with a play on words. And the actor jason segal. John david foster wallace, the author of infinite jest, a novel that i totally read ok, none of it, but other people say it is brilliant, and everyone has a copy, and only the great est among us can finish it, but recently, we spoke with someone so brave who not even read the book but who is playing a role in the movie about it, called the end of the tour. And it is jason segel of how i met your mother and the serious part. Jason there a couple of compilations that are as funny of essays as they would read. When i got the script, i jumped into infinite jest, which is a different. 1000 plus pages, and it is funny, but it is difficult, and it is intensely personal, and in answer to the press, that is how i got into david foster wallace, because i felt that the man had laid himself bare on the page. John ive heard you tell the story of what happened when you bought the book. Tell us now. Jason i went to my local bookstore, and i put it on the table, and there was a girl behind who literally rolls her eyes at me, and she says, oh, god, infinite jest. Every guy i have ever dated has an unread copy on the bookshelf, and i think that is true. That is everyones experience with infinite jest, and you try to get through it, but it is a difficult book. There happened to be three guys, who had read it and really took me through the book. We would read 100 pages a week and get together on sundays and talk about it, and it is one of the most beautiful, intimate experiences i have had, and the themes of the book, loneliness, and reaching this age, in your early mid 30s, when you realize i have been working hard towards getting there, and then you find out the secret that there is no there, that the road just goes on forever, and you have to figure out how to be ok with what is right now. John the movie is also about journalism. It is about a guy named david lipsky who goes to interview david foster for infinite jest, and they spend days together. You have done a lot of tours, and you have dealt with a lot of journalists in your life. What do you think the movie reveals about the nature of the writer subject or the writer celebrity relationship . Jason it is complicated, but at the same time, david had a book that came out the same year that did not do as well, so you meet idol whoy meeting his he also wants to dethrone. You realize the person interviewing you might have interests that diverge from your own, that you are trying to communicate a message and get a point across, and seeing the person interviewing you might want to take your words and twist them and reveal something about you, and that is what comes into play in the movie. David goes in with a bit of an agenda because there were addiction rumors swirling around david foster wallace, and david lipsky wants to expose him. John has that happened to you dealing with journalists . Jason i do not these days think you would agree to an interview that is four days long. Mark bloomberg asked me to gain 40 pounds, and i did it with martinis and steak. How did you gain the weight . Jason funny you should ask. Hot pockets. Mark do you love the hot pockets, or is that just an efficient way to gain weight . Jason i had fond memories of hot pockets growing up. Mark and the vanilla milkshake. Jason a lot of ice cream as well. It is fun for the first three days, and after that, you feel terrible. You just want to nap. You do not want to do anything, but it helps with the part, because there is something heavy literally and emotionally going on with david foster wallace. He has achieved everything that he dreamed of, and yet, he still feels the same. That is a terrible moment. I have had it. John what was it like playing jesse eisenberg, the man who played david lipsky in the movie . Jason the best acting experience of my life. Diligent in understanding what hes doing in his character. Had our first meetandgreet. Somebody asked me when i started writing. I said it was by necessity. Nobody was knocking down my door to play captain america, and really quietly but loud enough for me to hear, jesse said, no, but you could probably play the captain of a weaker country, and i knew that was what was going to go on, and that was fun. John ive seen you quoted on two things. One, you would like to make a movie with Hillary Clinton and number two, you would like to go on a man date with barack obama. Talk about those things. Jason i have two great answers to that. With Hillary Clinton, it was when i was doing how i met your mother. And the constant question was, who is the mother . Who is the mother going to be . So i got tired of that question, and i was hoping for Hillary Clinton, and i got the most graceful and amazing letter from Hillary Clinton or her people that she is really flattered, but she was going to be too busy to be the mother, which i saved, and i was also lucky enough to meet barack obama. They did a screening of muppets at the white house for children of veterans, and you are so nervous and you hear the man approaching. He walks in, and he looked at me, and he said, hey, i love you, man. Because i did a movie i love you, man, and i was more clever. I responded nervously with, i love you, too, mr. President. Mark that comes up a lot. Jason i never felt more awkward in my life, other than following more awkwardly by saying, we are doing a screening in georgetown. You should come. There will be free snacks. Mark im sure you didnt say that. Jason that is real. My life is a series of really uncomfortable moments. John i assume he did not come. Jason no, he did not. 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