Just a general pattern we have seen that would be considered ridiculous if it were not so sad. Mrs. Clinton the steps over the line and should be repudiated by every person of good faith and concern about the necessity to keep our political dialogue on the fact and within suitable boundaries. Mark obama repudiates clinton repudiates, also jeb bush saying the use of that language is wrong. Scott walker told National Public radio he would not have used those words but would be much tougher. Others declined to comment. Huckabee, standing by his words, put out a video late today doubling down. Did he go too far for his own good . John yes. The comments have been, even though some republicans dont want to say it, a lot of that have crossed a respectable line and people are against it. It is outrageous on some level but what bothers me most is that its a hypocritical thing coming from huckabee, who as recently as 2008 was giving speeches about diplomatic approaches to and run, about containing iran, about pursuing a policy barack obama has pursued. Mark Mike Huckabee often says extreme things that get repudiated and denounced. But they dont often hurt him. I dont know if this will hurt him. Given that they put out the video, my senses he thinks its going to help them. Being attacked by Hillary Clinton and barack obama, he thinks is a good thing. John i just dont understand how it seems the obvious calculation is going on for a lot of these candidates, in the wake of trump and trumps strength in iowa demonstrated this past weekend, a guy like Mike Huckabee not getting as much traction as you would hope. All of these things, not just huckabee, a lot of things have happened over the last 72 hours it all seems like an active desperation and i dont see how desperation is a good look. Mark he defended his position again on fox. We will see what happens. John it wasnt just my cut to in Mike Huckabees shenanigans that seemed to be annoying president obama today. He talked about the current inclination to dabble in the republican nomination contest. Here is the president going after donald trump and a sitting senator to be named later. President obama when you look at what has happened with mr. Trump, when he has made some of the remarks that for example challenge the heroism of mr. Mccain, that arises out of a culture where those kinds of outrageous attacks have become far too commonplace and get circulated nonstop. We have a sitting senator who also happens to be running for president , suggest that im the leading state sponsor of terrorism. These are leaders in the republican party. Mark the senator to whom obama was alluding was ted cruz, who actually said something slightly different. He said the administration was a leading financier of terrorism. John if obama keeps this up getting involved in the republican race what is the , effect of that on the whole contest . Mark its good. He inspires the Democratic Party. As long as bill clinton is being quiet, it feels a vacuum. Hes a better politician than Hillary Clinton. It appealed to independence that very few republicans are. John as long as his Approval Rating gets better, his role can only help Hillary Clinton. Hes got the biggest megaphone in the world, even bigger than donald trump and it rallies the democratic base, which is important. I do think with his Approval Ratings inching up, he has a voice of authority that helps when it comes to Hillary Clinton. Mark he has passed the commanderinchief threshold by definition. There is almost no one in the republican field who is there. The one to our closest, people like jeb bush or john kasich they are not all the way there. As long as the president has that monopoly, he has the authority. He is an effective voice. John this part of obama is something that people have agreed with the rational obama, saying all you kids yelling out here, americans dont actually like that kind of politics. When obama says that, i think a lot of people say he is speaking for me. That is a part of politics they dont want to see more of. Mark on in iowa, donald trump saturday, attacked scott walkers record in wisconsin. Locker basically ignored him for two days. And when pressed in a fox interview late today defended , his record but did not hit back at trump. Is turning the other cheek a good idea . John amazingly, i think the moment of strength we have discussed this many times, for scott walker, where iowa is important, i think for him it may be the right thing to do so that when trump, if he does immolate, walker is a better position to pick up the voters. Mark fighting with people in a 16 person race is complicated. You could knock the other guy out you can both go down. At this point in trump takes you on full throttle, you have to fight back. You cant just defend yourself. Because you look weak. Even if you are not worried about trump, everyone of these candidates has to bear a responsibility and say theyre going to stand up to them even to him even if they want to pick up his support. You can do both at the same time. John you can, but its tricky. I have some sympathy and i think some voters have sympathy for the argument walker is making, which is im going to run my campaign, im going to say what im going to say, im not going to speak for other people to the extent possible and getting in the mud fight with trump is a fight mark trump went after aspects of walkers record where there are vulnerabilities. He actually used notes which he almost never does. John Hillary Clinton outlined her plan for climate change. In her proposal more than half a billion solar panels in her first term and Renewable Energy in every home in 10 years. After her event she briefly met , the press and Jennifer Epstein asked about her position on the keystone pipeline. Hillary clinton thank you for that. No other president ial candidate was secretary of state when this process started. I put together a thorough, deliberative, evidencebased process to evaluate the Environmental Impact and other considerations of keystone. So i will refrain from commenting because i had a leading role in getting the process started. I think we have to let it run its course. John putting aside the keystone invasion that evasion, on the climate plan more broadly, good policy . We asked the same question about the tax plan. Mark it is good policy within the Democratic Party and more broadly, to be for solar panels and more renewables without a doubt, it puts the republicans somewhat on the defensive, but this was not a big, bold sweeping plan in dealing with carbon the way a lot of people in the Democratic Party would like. And i think you cannot put the keystone thing aside. Bernie sanders and Martin Omalley has spoken. I dont understand why its you know so much about it, she wont take a position. John if you are going to frame her plan to say im obama plus, you might as well go all the way. You are going to take criticism from the right for being more regulatory, more antibusiness so , you might as well be Something Big and bold, not something thats just a little bit more proenvironmental than obama. I would like her to be bolder if shes going to take the air is coming in. Arrows coming in. Mark and take more specific position on things president obama does and particularly on , executive orders. President Hillary Clinton would certainly have speaker John John Boehner to deal with. And she did not explain how these things are going to work. If she is president , she will have to do this. Coming up, charlie black tells us his best donald trump anecdote after this word from our sponsors. Mark our guest tonight has been advising republicans for many years, including ronald reagan, george h. W. Bush, the other president bush and john mccain. And he wont be afraid to admit to know he knows donald trump very well. Charlie black, thank you for coming on the show. Explain your relationship to mr. Trump for our viewers. Charlie ive known donald trump for 30 years. My company and i represented him in the lobbying and Public Affairs world for almost 20 years, ending about 10 years ago. John given that you know the man pretty well, about as well as anyone in washington, d c does, tell us your best donald trump stories. Charlie theres a lot of competition for that honor. A real quick one was he was opposing the establishment of an indian gaming casino in bridgeport, connecticut once. He testified at the hearing and when the legislator backed him into a corner about it, he took attack of saying the man sitting over there is not an indian. You cannot give him a casino because he doesnt look like an indian to me. [laughter] john lots of speculation about what is going to happen with the guy who is now the National Front liner front runner. What is your best guess about where and when Donald Trumps pursuit for the presidency ends. Is it the oval office or something short of that . Charlie first of all in addition to being a great businessman, hes a great celebrity and he knows how to milk that and hes a great entertainer, so naturally best so naturally he is getting a lot of attention from the press. He will not be president , he will not be the nominee. He will go through a few primaries and as the other candidates get that are known and people figure out there their credentials and where they stand, i think donald is likely to finish third, fourth or lower in the first few primaries. I dont know what he will do after that but he will not yet the daily attention that hes getting now. John im curious, its not a criticism or a slight to say you are in Good Standing with the washington establishment. We hear that republican establishment arians are freaking out about the rest of the summer being dominated by donald trump. Is there anything the republican establishment can do to stop him and shut him down . Charlie i appreciate being a member of the establishment, so i dont know the others are so that i can get with him. We are starting our debates next week. There will be debates each month. There will be two debates and then another two in early the september. Debates will cause the other candidates, especially the major candidates to get that are better known and get that are covered. Im sure donald will still be in the news, but he will have a lot of competition from people who seriously have a chance to be president. We have a very good field. I am not freaked out about it. At the same time in earlier cycles, people were freaking out about ron paul hogging the attention and hurting our brand or pat buchanan hurting our , brand. In the end, those guys did not hurt the brand. The eventual nominee sets the tone and defines the brand. Mark what is the craziest idea youve heard about how to deal with donald trump . Charlie i know a lot of people who think we ought to just go back to him, beg him. Mark beg him to get out of the race . Why wouldnt that work . Charlie because it would just prove to him that hes getting a lot of attention and getting under peoples skin. Hes a brilliant man, great salesman, he knows how to read people and play people, so you dont want to get into a position of weakness with him. John is there anything you know about donald trump at if it became public would prevent him from being the president of the United States . Charlie nothing. I might not know everything about him, but i know a lot. John lets move away mark lets talk about the field. Who at this point would you say are the three most likely people to be the partys nominee . In order of first most likely and second most likely. Charlie we have more than three that are highly qualified to be president. A lot of good candidates. If i had to guess today, i think our nominee would likely come from one of four people, from jeb bush, marco rubio, scott walker, or john kasich. I think theres a 95 chance of that and a 5 chance someone else could catapult into the lead and be the nominee. But it is too early to make an educated guess. John of the first four states that vote, which one is rubio likely to do well in . Charlie he could do well in any of them. I suspect you would have to say New Hampshire or nevada, but that is guesswork. John there is a pretty good sense of that toptier. Do you think john kasich and can quickly make his way into the top tier in the next couple of months . Charlie probably not in a couple of weeks. I dont think he will make the debate stage, but as soon as he begins to debate and get more attention when hes campaigning i think he is a firsttier , candidate. Hes extremely accomplished governor, he has experience writing a balance and serving on armed services. And he is a good campaigner. I dont mean that as a commercial for john to the disadvantage of others, but hes a good candidate. John charlie black, thank you for coming on the show. When we return, our resident p olling analyst and super genius breaks down the new surveys of iowa and New Hampshire after this. Mark joining us now is can goldstein to talk about the polls and iowa and New Hampshire. In these polls, Hillary Clintons unfavored will ratings are three bad. What are the implications . Her faves and unveils are bad and they are not terrific nationally. Cnn was out in a poll with 35 or 50 underwater in terms of her favorability. Thats what a lot of recent polls have showed. The irony here is as the republicans have all of this drama in their nomination fight, this is a nomination worth having. Hillary clinton posco favorability is low and the other number to Pay Attention to and has been a surprise to me is Barack Obamas job approval has remained underwater, even after his good month of june, he is at 45 50. John one of the noticeable things about these polls in both iowa and New Hampshire and this has been true in other polls, everyones unfavorable ratings are really high. It seems like none of these people are super popular, with the exception of a couple of folks we can talk about later, but everyone is ready unpopular. Is the fact of the partisan polarization, now a feature of politics, is that going to reset the bar on what is a reasonable expectation on favorable or unfavorable should be . Ken the only people who are not underwater are people not well enough. That is important. We used to be in a world where some republicans might have favorable reviews of democrats and some might have favorable views of republicans and independents leaning towards one side or the other could also like the other side. Now, there is very much a ceiling on approval its a numbers. Its a simple algebra problem. Hillarys favorability number is just about all democrats like her, she splits the independence, and all the republicans dislike her. Its just numbers you cant get over. It may be the case that those old models that assume someone could get 50 or 55 or 60 may not be so useful. What is the expression . 40 might be the new 50 when it comes to favorability and job approval. Mark lets talk about another thing that popped out regarding results and getting results. Spending. You know a lot about Television Advertising. John kasich was at zero in New Hampshire and they say close to 2 million on New Hampshire on a second 62nd spot. In a private poll, shows him at 7 . Is spending to laying dollars spending 2 million to go from zero to 7 a good return on investment. Is that about what you would expect . Ken four john kasich, it is a good return because he needed to get to seven to get into the conversation. Its a great social science experiment. Rarely do you have Television Advertising air wars when theres only one person up. You have john kasich who was the only person up. And we are simply not going to see that very much as primaries go, and we certainly wont see that when it comes to the general election. Thats at the very upper bound of the stats we like to see from advertising. Mark and of course, he was also campaigning and in the state during part of the survey, so that may have played a role as well. Ken again, it points to the fact that if you are the only person with a megaphone, your message can get heard. Mark jumping from zero to seven is not a surprise to mark not a surprise . Does that seem about right . On the air, 2 million. Ken that is high to me. That is a very high range of what i wouldnt expect to see. I dont think we are going to see advertising moving any would expect to see. I dont think we are going to see advertising moving any numbers 7 in the next 15 months. John mark has a piece up right now about Bernie Sanders and the threat he poses to Hillary Clinton, which is real and substantial. Can you talk about the numbers in these polls and what you can divine from them about ernie Bernie Sanders and his prospects . Ken in both of those polls, in iowa and New Hampshire, Hillary Clinton is still ahead but the Bernie Sanders is in significantly better shape than he was just a few months ago. Also, getting lots of momentum and media coverage. We will give mark the softball, but one of the really good points mark makes in his article is, we also have to look at the indirect effects of berniementu m. The three of us dont expect him to be the democratic nominee and , see some limits for him in the primaries that will follow, but as he puts pressure on Hillary Clinton, as he makes Hillary Clinton go farther to the left it gets back to our initial conversation it makes Hillary Clinton a less formidable general election candidate which makes that republican nomination worth having and really valuable. Mark you have a piece up now about these polls. Looking at the methodology. Tell us what you found there. Ken one thing i worry in virtually all of the polling week the from the media we see from the media, on the primary is that their samples are way too big. I dont mean the sample of people, but the target population the sample represents. In iowa, if you do the math, their sample of republicans multiplies out to 770,000 caucusgoers. But the largest caucus ever was 150,000. Mark thank you. We will be back with john boehner getting a little emotional, after this. John we all know that john boehner is a frequently tearyeyed fellow. What about seemingly unemotional topics . Check out this speech he gave to the golf channel. Its golf. Speaker boehner i want to make sure every kid has the same chance i did. An opportunity. John until tomorrow, sayonara. Emily markets in china slide to historic lows, but a chinese these the fund has 5 million to invest in global tech companies. I am emily chang, and this is bloomberg west. Coming up, why square decided to go public now. Bucking the trend of tech unicorns staying private. Plus, the Largest Technology companies pledging to cut their carbon footprints in a big way. And leaving the 1099 economy