Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240702

Exhibition activities, lets say , our dome, the umbrella umbrella of our work, export marketing, which i said, procurement activities, our foreign economic instruments, is our Educational Center, that is, we have our own Educational Center, and we are moving towards this and striving to become an expert hub, an expert hub. Here are the main three that i called the main direction that form our functionality, in this Educational Center we are our exporter, we provide all the training programs, modern, interesting, and we are just working to make them even more meaningful, here we also provide these Educational Services from the outside, that is, as you can see, there is enough help versatile and multifaceted, well, and effective, as for exhibition activities, you have already mentioned this a little, another of your directions, in the near future, what do we have . This year we held five collective large, large exhibitions, the geography is quite wide, these include the cis countries, uzbekistan, for example, then the middle east, saudi arabia, pakistan, iran, from the nearest one, we are planning a large exhibition in vietnam, we now have quite a lot of interest about 25 Belarusian Companies have already shown interest in this exhibition, it will be vietnam expo, it will be held in ha Chi Minh City in december, from december 7 to 9, so Many Enterprises from various industries will be represented, that is , the exhibition will be quite representative , our participation will be, but we always say that enterprises , well, lets put it this way, here are the 25 enterprises that have already expressed interest. For this exhibition, it should be noted that they already have some outline plans, plans not only to participate in the exhibition, but also to develop their business in this region, and we do the same we help, we say all the time, we are against business tourism, its good to come and see, but come on, if there are any problems, we will help you establish contacts with someone, hold b2b meetings, yes, find some new ones. Opportunities, promising directions or projects that you can, which you may not have imagined before, but which may become relevant for you, tomorrow or or the day after tomorrow or even today, well, thank you, the director of the National Marketing center answered the questions to the program and price trends, nikolai borisevich, further in the program are events, finalists of the International Project 10 for the cis, new citizens of belarus and the smallest monument in the country, we will return to the studio in a few minutes. Eight teams from four countries, all participants are selected. Our arena is a witness to spectacular battles and unbending fortitude, because this is a chance to express themselves and prove that they are Even Stronger than they were before. I love extreme sports, i like it very much, i dont have any. Fears, they ended up in a computer game where everything is real, who will win the main crystal and the title of heroes, the game will show, well, the game has begun, one minute, real emotions and serious tests, a race for survival, not a childs game, be careful, come on, come on, come on, thats it . This is it, ah, its catching up, hold on, im here, i almost cried at the end thats it, look, a sports and entertainment show, lets go to the expedition in the corners of our country, its time to pick up a Good Campaign and leave the city there for the people of the day i appreciated my oneness proroda ruins in the grodzen region and we follow the historical and myastsovye abrades. In the gancharakh litsk region there is a unique pakroa kingdom, built in 1774 from stone and wood. The countryside in belarus is barred. To give the hell of it, the need for the skin has become a bad thing, so all the first kutochak svatochak needs for padsaladzitsa and for the old traditions a new life. Gylyagylya, shyry gusi, nekalam vada. Projects are ahead of time. On the tv channel belarus 24. This is the Event Program for belarus 24 and we continue to be the winners of the International Project the stands for the cis were determined in minsk, the best were chosen in eight nominations, well find out the details from our columnist svetlana chernova. In total, the jury presented more than 40 projects in industry, biotechnology, healthcare, medicine, it, tourism, culture and education. Scientific developments were presented by young scientists from eight countries, azerbaijan, armenia, belarus, kazakhstan, kyrgyzstan, uzbekistan and russia. Among the outstanding projects are sensor glasses for the visually impaired, a smart card, a drone project, and energyefficient workwear. 12 innovations proposed by young scientists from belarus, winners of the republican stage. We present a project for prosthetic limbs in animals using bionic prosthetics, the involvement of our special patients in the rehabilitation of special children, the same children who, to some extent , are very similar in their situation and problems. Development for people with disabilities a touch glove that turns gestures into text; the belarusian project works using a special application. Arriving at the pharmacy, i. I saw that the person wanted to explain in sign language what he needed to buy at the pharmacy, accordingly, the pharmacist, not understanding, handed him to the person, accordingly, a piece of paper and a pen asked him to write, a project that actually gives every youth Scientific Development a start in life, today the state aims to ensure that all the ideas of young people are not just implemented in laboratory, experimental conditions, but certainly reach the real sector of the economy. The jury and experts note. A high level of preparation projects, winners were chosen from the best and the best, almost all states that presented projects were awarded. Belarusians won in three categories itsphere, safety and production technologies, industrial infrastructure. The final of the competition was observed by experts, representatives of universities, the business community, and organizations for the development of Youth Entrepreneurship in the cis. Therefore, the presented projects can get a start in life not only in one state, but within the cis. In belarusian citizenship. 262 people were accepted, including 26 minors, please tell us the details. The corresponding decree was signed by the president. At the same time, the head of state decided to reject a number of applications against persons who have repeatedly violated the legislation of our country during their residence. Let me remind you that after the order to grant belarusian citizenship to ukrainians, given by the president at a meeting with media representatives in august 2021, 6. 1814 citizens of ukraine acquired citizenship on various legal grounds. Except them, during this time , almost 3,000 more people who arrived from other countries received belarusian passports. Work on the construction of the zaari death Camp Memorial complex is nearing completion. When is it planned to open . At the beginning of the next month, under the single name of the azararichi concentration camp, there were three places of mass extermination of people, located not far from each other. It existed for only 10 days, but went down in the history of the great patriotic war as one of the most terrible places in terms of conditions of detention. In a week and a half, about 2000 died here human. The first memorial sign in azararichi was installed in 1954. Another 10 years later , stella was opened; this is the only object that will remain from the previous complex, although in a slightly different form. The existing monument, which was in azararichi, has also become, only the only work currently being carried out there is laying granite, that is, so that this monument is included as a whole in the concept of everything given. The technical object is not so complex, its just responsible, the deadlines are very strictly limited, so to speak, but established. Deadlines we will do everything. The azarichi memorial project includes a museum, a wall of mourning, a monument to military doctors and a memory tower. The smallest monument in belarus was installed in gomel. What does he look like . This laundry soap is made of brass in its standard form. It was installed at the gomel fat plant. The Opening Ceremony was timed to coincide with world clean hands day and the week of parental love. By the way, the top product has been produced at the enterprise for 90 years. We also analyzed in the republic of belarus the situation is that the smallest monument is 15 cm, it is located in minsk, our soap is made from an original piece of laundry soap 250 g 6. 9 cm. We plan to include this record in our National Book of records of belarus, negotiations with the management of the book have already on this topic, they liked the idea, so we will move on. After the opening of the smallest monument , a sign already appeared rub it in order to be healthy. Thank you. Review prepared by svetlana chernova. Resultsanalysis main events of this week in the atn information and Analytical Program main broadcast. All projects of our tv channel are on the website belarus24. Bi, as well as on social networks. I say goodbye to you. All the best. On the air weekly sociopolitical to the show in essence, today in the center of our attention is such a concept as cognitive warfare, which is well known to our opponents, but little known to the general public in our country, what it is, how to deal with it and is it worth it at all, on the site our competent experts, but as always you can become participants in the discussions, there is a qr code here at the bottom of the screen, please point your Smartphone Camera at it and join the discussion and the broadcast on youtube, well, in the lower right corner, there is a link to our telegram channel, where you can find out more about what is happening behind the scenes of the talk show, in essence, in the studio, as always, Kiril Kazakov and alen syrova, hello, good evening, well , lets immediately define what cognitive or mental wars are, it seems that this is a topic that should be discussed by people with very high special education, in principle this does not concern us, it turns out that it concerns us very much, these same cognitive wars, even according to nato methodology, are already being waged, waged 24 7, and the most important thing is that the weapon in this war is any person who opens information on any social network on your smartphone, you wont believe it, but in fact the substitution of concepts, its very simple, lets take the same ukraine, 10 years ago on may 9, it was a holy holiday, and now its. Just a date, but it became a holiday may 8, and if even earlier, the marshals of the soviet union who liberated ukraine were heroes represented by the same ukrainians, now the heroes there are completely different, you know, there is bandera avenue in kiev, now he is a hero, this is called the civilizational war , when you are 10 years old, as if not noticing how this is happening, you suddenly begin to understand that you have a completely different attitude towards this or that, well, kind of story, event that is happening around you, two main platforms that are weapons cognitive war, this is media, you now find it here, the second is education , lets talk about this, igor, so, in your opinion, while preparing for the program, i tried for a very long time to understand when belarusians began to feel this very cognitive , but how to resist . When they started to feel it, i have a strong , well, opinion that they were constantly, in general, trying to change the meanings in our lives, its just that with the development of media and technology, this all accelerated significantly, and the scale, well, is not a tragedy, but problems, they have intensified significantly with the development of social networks, all the information platforms there, and so on, and it seems to me that the further this process goes, the more acute this problem will become, because new technologies create new tools to ensure that these change meanings. The union collapsed, this is the story when cognitive war was still able to replace the concept of a soviet person with a person from western civilization, yes, it was able to, and yes, this is an example of cognitive pressure, cognitive war, because at the moment, the biggest problem for that country that is undergoing such a cognitive attack is our own silence, because, well, in my opinion, there were problems in the soviet union, there were many achievements, but there were problems, about problems it was not customary to speak, because it was impossible, someone elses agenda burst into this vacuum, into a complete one. Emptiness, it fills the mind, heart, thoughts, people , that the most important thing is jeans, chewing gum and so on, not, well, lets just say that it bursts in first under a very specious pretext, voicing, among other things, the same problems, yes, and the person begins to think , yeah, that means there is a rational grain there , listen, the person will be forced to think so, because when they tell him that this is good, nothing is given in the counterarguments, that. Then he has only one option left, im talking about a person who is subject to meditative influence, such people are not all, but there are many such people, with the development of technology, people who make superficial conclusions become more and more yes much more, well, kirillo voiced one of the platforms this is education, yes, vladimir matveevich, i have a question for you as a military person, as a person who is related to the military. Education of different periods. After all, power universities are educational institutions that educate people of a certain, well, caliber, with a certain set of qualities. And , of course, i am not a very immersed person in this area, but it seems to me that fundamentally the officers there are from the times of the soviet union, from the times there of the nineties, now the sovereign belarus, but in terms of some basic human values ​​and the values ​​that are brought up in them, they do not differ, this is how it works, maybe im wrong, if so, then correct me, how do you manage to resist this influence from the outside, because teachers are people too , also communicate with the outside world, plus young people too, they also wear jeans, buy chewing gum, sit on social networks, you are absolutely right, the core that was in the u. Composition and in the soviet union it has been preserved, moreover, it has even been preserved in the early nineties, in the early nineties years and the generation that was then and the commanders and department heads, thanks to them it was not possible to finish off the army to the end, since 1994 a revival began, but when we talk about political discourse now , the terms are introduced, hybrid war, information. War, cognitive war, mental war, conscientious war from the latin word consciousness, it always comes to mind, remember, in my house, i ask you not to express yourself, a classic of soviet film comedy and nevertheless, we published several materials 25 years ago, they are in scientific sources devoted to the socalled concentrated war, what is it, it is a war and a corresponding weapon that affects the consciousness, there are very interesting works by doctor of Psychological Sciences yuri gromyk, nina gromyk, but your humble servant, several of them, and in 20 years, almost before they started talking about this in relation to cognitive and mental wars, we called it concentration war, and how to destroy consciousness, starting with the destruction of the neurocerebral substrate, how to poison the air, for example, or drugs, up to the elimination of personality as such, the occult transmission of thoughts to the target of destruction sounds, well, exotic, and yet such work is being carried out, the dissemination through Communication Channels of images that destroy the work of consciousness, in my opinion, about 15 or 20 years ago in japan, after watching a cartoon, about 150 children got sick schizophrenia, schizophrenia, split consciousness, they will now tell you, this is all a conspiracy theory, its all too complicated, we ourselves have come to this, we ourselves have evolved to a certain point. Conspiracy theory, it is no coincidence that the pope once advised catholics all over the world, definitely watch soviet cartoons, because they are good, especially films of the sixties, this is also one thing, colleagues, firstly, we ourselves have shortened the history of mankind, the soviet union, quite recently, then we started with that that they started, at first there was a word that the bible says, all wars are for resources, territories since the First World War broke this consciousness, wait, wait, it was all going on, i m alone, ill explain once again that there was always a struggle for minds and brains, because it is easiest to control the masses that are united some idea that unites muslims, the ability to die for god, jih, whether you understand or not, what the crusades were, it was the development of territories, the seizure of resources, the enslavement of peoples, but what was it called . We crushed civilization, so there is always a reason, there is a reason, we must tell the truth, you know, if we want to talk at least a little about what, about the essence of the processes, naturally, in many concepts, ideological, religious and so on, there is a lot of humanism, in there is an idea for many things, but often these ideas are generalizing, they often carry its also destructive in nature, so you have to be very careful with this, and my colleague is absolutely right when he says that simply over time, the codes for this, especially take the intelligence services, there are entire scientific works, there is such work, old, soviet, its own intelligence, its called, yes, how simple it is, starting from coding, zombification, persuasion, suggestion, working with a person, with an audience, i tell you any event can be written in different ways, and any media outlet can, for example, present zelenskys tour to europe , or as enjoys the support and love of europe or is begged all over the world, and give the appropriate sound background, picture and completely different perceptions, so we are being manipulated, what do our citizens need to understand . Most importantly, im finishing so you dont interrupt me, right . So, ill explain, you need to understand who is working in your interests, everyone is manipulating you, all the mass media, there is no media that does not work with your consciousness, but who is the most motivated in relation to belarusians, so that you live better, we are belarusians ourselves , our the media, you and i were deceived that we had to close ourselves during covid. To die of hunger, we worked in our own way, we were told not to build a Nuclear Power plant, all the competitors convinced us, i dont call them enemies, it was simply not profitable for them, that a competitor will arise, will have cheap electricity and will supply it to their market, so they convinced us, so how to cleanse yourself, first, look at the background of certain messages of work with you, if you see that you are already hundreds, decades old they say that there are scammers. Now in recent months, these scammers in the media on the phone have become more frequent, well, listen, you already have a negative experience, or if you see that what the official told you, well, the position more or less coincides with what happened later , or the authorities are motivated to ensure that the course is normal, the economy develops , peace, order, etc. Are maintained in the country, which means that these media, at least in some ways and by manipulating information, work in the interests of the country, in this the point . What do you they said, this is all for a thinking person interested in analyzing information, again, the world has transformed to such an extent that a person no longer needs to look for it, this information, for the most part, has become possible to convince any citizen that it is enough open the first resource you come across, you will Read Everything there, you dont need to compare any facts there, this is also the result of many years of work, which. Was carried out, well, i dont know, call it an ideology or an alien or a cognitive war unleashed against us, andrey petrovich, well, if colleagues say that for many years, and even 20, 30, 50 years ago, this was all clear, obviously, and the wellknown phrase that you want to defeat your enemy by raising his children, yes, and this is from the same place, then why didnt we somehow get our bearings in time , didnt close in time, in the good sense of the word, and didnt seize the initiative in time . Well, in general, i am participating in this discussion, and here we are talking about the fact that cognitive warfare, hybrid warfare, mental warfare, firtrees, sticks, is involved everywhere im a person and i participate everywhere, id still serve you, id go alone for 3 years, a year for three, nevertheless, i would like to say that at one time Rene Descartes said the following words, the famous french philosopher and mathematician decide the meaning of the words, and you will deprive half of the problem of humanity, we say war everywhere, war, again, this is what i said, classification, thats right, let s go back to the original source, since these words are all borrowed, right or wrong, these are all formulations, they are borrowed , it is in the nato classification that the fundamental documents are taken precisely from the United States of america, for example, there is a field manual for the Ground Forces fm 3. 0, which determines the order of conduct. Modern wars by Ground Forces, it is called an operation, and there is a clear definition of what war is, and here i want to go back to karl von clause. Where there is a clear definition, war is nothing more than the continuation of politics by other violent means, again the use of violence armed force, the same thing is written down by the americans, the same thing is written down in nato documents, and it goes under the wellknown formulation in, yes, war, then it goes even more interesting, they start cognitively, hybrid, cognitively, hybrid, but there it goes no longer in fier, and we still cite it as war , but they have a clear definition of it, this is a confrontation or a military action, and from here we call everything war everywhere, which in essence is not a war, it begins before this war, in during the war and after the war, it all exists constantly, that is, it constantly influences these very people , that is, it doesnt matter, you dont have to declare a cognitive war, it is constantly going on, of course, well, if it were a war, of course it was, what does this include, they have already gone further, this is nato, today they are talking about waging multidomain wars, many domain wars, well, a domain is a sphere, so they are fighting in five fundamental spheres, land, sea, air, space and cyberspace, now the sixth, and cyberspace, here in this they are in everything they assume that there should be two components, this is the physical component , where kinetic weapons are used, and the second is just. The cognitive component, that is, it permeates all these spheres, this is not a separate domain, but this is the domain, and this is what that the sphere affects all these same elements, and this is clearly defined in all legal acts, and this very cognitive war that we are talking about or cognitive confrontation, everything includes several elements, this action is in informational, cybernetic sphere, this is action in the social sphere and action in the psychological sphere, and the main thing is aimed at, well, we understand, society, a person acts in society, he exists there in this society, and the impact on this society on a person, it must be first, on the consciousness on the subconscious and emotions of a person, and emotions are highlighted separately as the most effective sphere in which one can influence, that is, a person must constantly experience guilt, fear, satisfaction there, and so on, the most important thing is, what always paralyzes consciousness is fear, well, to intimidate a person, so we see what is happening there today, between israel and palestine, often why we say that physical, cognitive, they must act in combination, if they act separately from each other friend, you are unlikely to intimidate anyone, because they exist, to be afraid, when a rocket arrives, they begin to be truly afraid, that there is no place to hide today, look, Andrei Petrovich, i ll just try to explain once again what it is cognitive warfare, sometimes this impact is through advertising, commercial advertising, very often by customers, exactly how. Research was carried out by transnational corporations who, in principle, produced some kind of product and wanted it to be bought all over the world, that is, in fact, humanity should was to leave our national characteristics, buy the same powder, drink the same lemonade, and in fact people actually bought the same cocacola in this way, bought a certain shampoo, but at the same time we here, when in the soviet union they saw this, they bought it, they thought that we were reaching out to ours, of course, this is cool, i have a question, well , there are certain people like that, now we may not have a very smart conversation about what if you liberal and western values ​​are closer to you, then you, in principle, succumbed to this cognitive war, but if you are a traditionalist, conservative and somewhere more, as you say , a housebuilder, then you did not succumb to this war, alexander vladimich, tell me, here the influence of the west is some kind of sociological measured by research . Do we have some kind of attraction towards the european union, towards america, or is this again such talk for the poor . Yes, sociology, it allows us to measure the potential Foreign Policy orientations of the population, well, you can ask this question, this is what you think with which states or geopolitical regions it is beneficial for us to continue cooperation, strengthen relations, but in our opinion, again, that is, this may be some kind of onetime source of information that may change, then further further takes the form of some kind of dynamics, but in my opinion, the most important category that can distinguish us from the west is, first of all, value orientation, again this is what we recently at the institute of sociology conducted research that concerns value orientations of the population of belarus, here is such a threefactor structure, a threefactor structure that determines the value consciousness of our population, this is health, family and children, that is, it is precisely family values, health, it is fundamentally. Designers, which in some way can even distinguish us from western countries, again, the same celebrations of family holidays, putting some meaning into them, the population was asked the following question this is how you prefer to celebrate certain here are holidays, state, national, yes, first of all, in the family circle, in our own circle , where we have such communication, communication between, if we look again there is the same western, western idea, the same ideology, this first of all individualism, propaganda of some kind of individual behavior and some kind of idea of ​​contrasting oneself with society somewhere, in our case, in our opinion, here are sociologists, professional ones, that after all, our society, glory. That its healthy, its collectivist, its traditional, well, theyre imposing it, thats right, yes, theyre imposing it, we understand that values, theyre being imposed on us, whatever one may say, were trying to force some kind of legislation through culture, mass consumption , in any melodrama, even american production, we will always see, yes, that one way or another the plot revolves around what is there, i dont know, by the 4th of july. Something is timed, someone is going somewhere, someone is going somewhere there, someone is meeting sometime, and just like there, i just recently caught my eye, and the usual pink one, as they say melodrama, but in the center of the plot there is a military man, and it very subtly tells that yes, now guys , you are in iraq, but then you will go, yes, to serve your homeland and protect its interests in other states, im defending my homeland in iraq americans, and i. The film, by the way, is quite old, that is, it is obvious that what is happening, and what is being broadcast in this mass culture, is slowly preparing, well, public opinion, we unfortunately do not use this tool, it is somehow ignored by us, and what we are talking about is about emotions, about values ​​and about some basic moments, but for some reason we do not defend them, as if speaking again. Cognitive warfare must say that the most obvious things are lgbt nazism, the two things they are trying to tell us are what lies on the surface regarding the fact that we do not protect, im just explaining, so that you have the resource to protect, you need to control financial flows and resources, those who have more money, control technology, technological superiority, they have more opportunity, alena, they are making other films now, today there should be in the cinema today. A disorder of sexual infatuation , preferably a couple of people with disabilities, he said and accordingly, well, i can say it differently, why do we need it, we have different tv viewers, and there are also racial and other aspects, today a beauty contest must be won by some man who has a good shave and put on a wig, these are the ones we have, but this is how you will impose it, the belarusian film will compete, the bridge film, what kind of sales do we have there, but we are on our own territory. We are trying to defend these values, starting from the history of the formation of our state, now they have made a good film, well done, yeah, ending with issues related to values ​​and so on, but you understand, today they, everything goes, remember, everything comes from the economy, the economy allows you to have superiority in technology, in the armed forces of the pongi, right, that is , who has the money, money, the fight for money, power, territory, everything, everything. The rest of the methodology for seizing territories, peoples and so on, so its true, it tells you, there is a reason for any event , there is a reason, they will tell you a fairy tale, its bad there, someone is offended, this is a reason, but what is the goal, geopolitical influence , conquer the territory, thats all, so in this case this is what we are talking about, ill finish, alena , we need to develop the most efficient economy, a Strong Economy that will be competitive in the foreign market, attractive to third countries, so that we can unite, we have resources. Resources will allow us to strengthen our military power and compete technologically, but my question is, who will develop your economy, only we can develop the correct alignment, but tell us about our very values, the ones we are talking about, they are enough to to survive, its true, well, look, i say again, our tv viewers must understand one very simple thing, that any war, whatever you call it, informational, mental or anything else, is a war. Meanings, the task of our opponents or aggressors, is to make us a spiritual chernobyl, you know, we now our state is holding on, thanks to you and me, the people, those who are watching this program today, family values, family, they must understand a very simple thing that today the image of meaning that is formed with with the help of information, we all have access to information, this is the means of this very war or. Informational confrontation, i agree with my colleague, but thats not all, worldview, worldview and worldview, these are the three fundamental things that are active today. You and i have and operate, this is our foundation , traditional values, absolutely right, a traditional family, i emphasize, not just anything, somehow, but a normal father, strong and courageous, an intelligent, beautiful, thrifty wife, thats what we wrote in the constitution, then there are very interesting fragments here, but that s not all, colleagues, this is the tip of the iceberg, we are talking about the mood of the minds today, this is what moves our country and makes it independent. Who will defend the country today, our country, our land . You and i, our children, grandchildren, greatgrandchildren, my grandchildren and my children, because they were brought up on the basis of traditional family values, thats what were talking about, nikolaevna, can i ask you a practical question, we open the belarusian instagram, we find, for example, a page of a girl who posts almost every day how she drives an expensive car, drinks champagne, and talks about how she is flying to the maldives; in parallel, igor tur talks about how the president gave him a bag of potatoes, how to convince people that the bag potatoes are cool, but champagne and the maldives are not, well, its not clear at all, the lidives, the maldives and champagne dont matter, but it works, this is it, this is the story , you know, this is the story that it influences, this is whats important yes, thats the one a material basis, which, but this is the relationship of the individual to that reality, understand. There is a psychological war going on here, that is, as colleagues correctly said, the mentality is counting on ours, on the core, nikolaevna, sorry to interrupt you, but lets go back to the base, kiril gave the example of the soviet union and advertising, and jeans, pepsi, cola and so on, what seemed to us, well, to the inhabitants of that time, was new fashionable, great, that having this, we become, as it were, better and more progressive, it was already then, you know, it began, so so. Why, why is it that we are not, i dont know, on a mental level, or something, to value whats ours and be proud of whats ours, what we have is this, the most important mistake, i explain, you cant just to compete in one spiritual and moral sphere, i explain to you why the soviet union collapsed, because you sang hymns, wore ties and dreamed of yugoslav boots and stood in line for 10 years for a car and could not build an apartment, everyone wanted to live, therefore there must be an effective competitor. The economy, a competitive, efficient standard of living in the country, and at the same time the right values, its impossible to say, of course, vadim, come on, damine, thats why the union burned down on hypocrisy, i tell you again, on hypocrisy, i remember it all, on hypocrisy, because there was a club, people who could afford it, those who traveled abroad , those who were members and so on, the rest sucked paws, thats all, its true, i lived well, lets not the soviet union, but the thing is that even remembering that time, the First Priority was those workdays that were, that is, what we did, our family, everything is the same, well, look, vladimir matvech gave an example, he said that an officer of the soviet union, an officer there , an independent, any person, im now talking about military people ill say, but people didnt. Ran, despite the fact that it was bad there, yes , they left the army in the nineties, but there were very small salaries at that time, but people stayed, and the technical equipment was, to put it mildly, not really, it means Something Else was holding them, and this is not obviously fear for there is the loss of my job, let me also support my colleague regarding the sphere of meanings, because everything is correct, all wars are based on the sphere of meanings, and not just economics, not just economics. Because what is happening now, if we talk about the same soviet union, but Nuclear Weapons remain, but there is no state, there is no state, so the problem is in theory, the problem is in the sociohumanitarian content, the problem is that in the sixtyfirst year, then the previous leadership committed the worst treacherous, it means, in essence, an action when they adopted the cpsu program to catch up and overtake the United States of america in consumption, the best minds in europe for this reason. They said what you are doing, you are ahead of the rest of the planet, except for one consumption, but it will automatically grow , well, this won, because there werent enough chewing gum and jeans, you know, well, there wasnt enough, lies when they proclaimed not the highest values ​​and so on, because the sixties, remember, this was once the generation of the sixties, they went to develop virgin lands, she admired the loon, they sang songs and there will be apple trees on mars, and in 30 years. These sixties, it was a different mentality, why vladimir gosyukhin broke akudzhavas record, it was exactly in 2003 , when the execution took place. The parliament itself and ninetyninetythree, yes, ninetythree, ninetythird, when the shooting of parliament means that some people said that they felt aesthetic satisfaction, the economy too and the economy is very important, gorbachevs mistake why the union fell apart, he simultaneously began political and economic reforms, he first had to maintain strong power and control of ideology, and transform the economy. Following the example of china, taking into account the fact that bad oil prices tied in the wrong direction in afghanistan, then they incorrectly brought troops into the field from germany, there were many mistakes, but most importantly, it is impossible to begin political reforms at the same time without building the economy, having a weak economy , heres a mistake for you, the point is, if today you dont economicize ideology, you wont achieve anything either, we are now facing advertising, you need to start understanding how to use your sack of potatoes from the president to defeat the belief that a good life means washing and mobbing, so weve already won, i believe that its impossible to defeat the illusion of a problemfree, cheap, wonderful life with a sack of potatoes and its impossible to try to do it not necessary, despite the fact that, of course, for me a sack of potatoes from the president is much more valuable than a trip to dubai, but i agree that the economy is still critically important for meaning, the president constantly talks about this, what the western world offers model, cool, a lot of money, we get high, relax, for this we need a lot of money, so when we promote our narratives about values, family, and everything, we must also talk about the fact that in our coordinate system, you can also be financially successful , maybe this is a completely different path, its not necessary to go with some old man to the same maldives or somewhere else, but this can be done in the Public Administration system, in the system. He began it precisely by explaining to everyone present that he puts into the concept of strategic projects, in my opinion, this is a very necessary step at the moment, because often the expectation and reality of how the assigned tasks are completed do not coincide precisely because the one who gives the order means one thing, and the one who gives it received. Implements instructions, understands somehow in his own way. Returning to our topic, to what Andrei Petrovich said in the first part about the fact that our comrades from nato have very precise definitions, i have a feeling the question is, maybe somewhere our problem is that we are not succeeding, in this confrontation, in some moments, it is connected with the fact that we ourselves. Have problems with understanding, right now even everyone present here, if we ask what everyone puts into the concept, traditional values, spirituality, everyone will name something different, some have the same, some dont, but in principle we understand differently, and there is no clear general definition, why there is, well, look, first of all, did you notice how in general the first part of the transmission has passed, we have been in this cognitive war purely all the time. We were defending something, we were waiting for someone to influence, we had already given the initiative to the enemy, even in our transmission, but there are two components, one this is defensive, and the other is offensive, influencing, so the same thing is put into this cognitive war, if we have such, such, such terminology we do not use, i say it again, it is borrowed, yes, it is philosophical in many ways we, we have such an understanding as information warfare, this is an integral part that provides one of the spheres of national security, one of the eight, well, in the future, of the nine spheres of national security, this is information security, thats exactly what it includes in this information confrontation, two directions, one is we influence the enemy , and the other thing is that we protect our people, our population, decision makers, everything else, it simply cannot be otherwise, the fact that we are inferior in some technologies, you know, well, probably. Its unlikely, but still, im still saying, we have there is a psychology that we must defend ourselves, we do not act proactively, we gave up the initiative, unfortunately, only now, after the twentieth year, have we come to a true understanding that we will not have to sit out in the trenches of this war. Look, Andrei Petrovich, i agree with you that we really have a ministry of defense, we have a defensive position, we really are not trying to attack anyone, but it seems to me that we have nevertheless taken steps towards cognitive warfare , well, for example, we opened the borders for our neighbors, come and look, we declared september 17 a public holiday, really stepping on the poles toes . That is, we have such a story, we really do some things that are starting to irritate everyone, you are right that after august 2020, we just began to take maybe a little more seriously the fact that, well, as they say , if you agree with everyone, it seems like you are weak, as soon as you start to say something, well, they immediately begin to disrespect you, take one moment so as not to missed, year, and we at the level of the head of state discussed the fact that on the internet we are losing, that officials start their day on the wrong sites, today i, today you and i have a significant technological remaining, we do not control a number of platforms, according to we need to strengthen our satellites significantly, now, thank god, russia is launching a new satellite, and a number of other things, so we need to understand where we are stronger. For example, hypersonic weapons, just now the russians showed a new missile there, well done and so on, but where are we falling behind . This is precisely the introduction of cognitive warfare, hollywood has a much wider reach, social networks are all american, practically vkontakte is lagging behind, okay, vadim, we state this, so the question is what to do, we must understand this and today we need to create the right products for this hightech park , if we were able to create our own viber, because we created it, we could create vkontakte telegram, here is a person who left for another country, a product, we should not be afraid to have billionaires here and millionaires who will not lose this money here, they will invest, they will create a product that on the world stage, you understand or not , we need to do this, alena, what we created , he is a competitor today, just look at how on youtube they influence us, and limit us, youtube, its all the same well, its not like our sites, we have our own space, if we remember friday s meeting, the head of state, among other things , said that there are some officials there , for example, ministers, who submit reports that are not entirely truthful, to put it mildly, for this purpose , in order to present ourselves in the best light, when we talk about the war for meaning, there is a very big temptation to slightly embellish the power of the weapons that we actually have, and having embellished it for the sake of, so to speak, reporting to the top, after a while you will believe in it. We have newspapers, we have radio, we have something on the internet, we have television, we need to understand weapons, what power we have, to check this, the hour may come, you know, and here it is important to understand who we are deceiving by deceiving someone else, cognitive, in in cognitive warfare, the concept of propaganda is when you create conditions and, lets say, push for action, cognitive warfare, when a person himself acts as he pleases. Here from propaganda, sorry igor, there is nothing left , because many people actually put effort into propaganda, but they really understand, they study the social masses, society, on some group of the population, but here you simply open the phone, you its written that everything is bad in belarus, and youre like, yes, everything is bad, and theres a march on the street in 1920, well, thats right here it turns out that everyone is social, if you dont think that none of you is acting from the outside, then a professional is working with you, dear colleagues, we are saying that we have a state education system, everything educates, people, parents, teachers, what happens around , you understand, oh, svetlana nikolaevna, were talking about education when we start talking, come on, here you are in the studio, after all, a person who operates with facts, yes, were all talking about philosophical meanings here, we understand perfectly well, that some, well, lets put it this way, pushing belarusians to crimes, but in some places, of course, they start from a young age through cartoons, and in others its very tough, go blow it up, this is also an element of cognitive, tell us about it . I agree, indeed, one of the forms of cognitive influence on the minds of our citizens, this is precisely the form of such a cognitive war this is when people are convinced. Unfortunately , such facts continue to occur when citizens receive calls on their mobile phones, convincing them to apply for a loan there or sell an apartment, subsequently, the funds are deposited into some accounts and after a person, well, he finds himself in a situation. The money is in a bank account and still does not return, he receives an offer to carry out some radical actions, in fact, people are involved in these illegal activities, well, really using radical actions to set fire , blow up, right, here, this is the topic of our discussion today, precisely this impact on human psychology, his they convince him of the need to perform some actions in order to show either. Significant , to attract attention, or to deceive him, to deceive him into committing some illegal actions, motivating that this is some kind of investigative experiment there or some kind of check convincing that the person does not bear any responsibility for this, look, well, maybe i dont follow the reports very carefully, but i dont remember something that in the last few years there, there are still five years there. Six ago, and the same the scammers called, they lured you out of money, then they asked you to go set fire to the car, for example, just the day before, my colleague in her material talked about such a case, now, the closer to the election campaigns, the higher the degree of political and military tension outside our countries, the higher the degree of this blackmail, you see, before only money was extorted. Now they are pushing their own citizens to commit crimes, it seems to me that next year there will be even more of them, i will say that this is probably a cynical approach that they use malicious intent in working with our citizens, because these are the actions that our citizens commit under the influence of deception they set fire to buildings, break car windows, they film it on mobile phone cameras, and accordingly, as proof of the commission of these actions, they they are dumped, socalled by their curator, then the curators post these videos on their telegram accounts, well, criminal ones, and with these videos they begin to promote themselves in front of each other, look how i scammed such a person on such and such, no, but then they can lay out that the belarusians are coming and beating there, i dont know, they are setting the windows of the car on fire, and so on and so forth, well, of course, as a certain tool, as a lever of influence on the masses, as on the psychology of people, he certainly. Can be used, but at the moment we are talking about the fact that this is being done for the sake of a certain pr , but of course, if there are people who are ready , under the influence of deception, under the influence of some kind of psychological influence, to commit such actions, this gives us reason think about the fact that, well, this is an alarming bell that it is necessary to work more with the population and warn them of such forms of occurrence, look, we are talking about crimes and it also touches on the fact that the closer to the elections, the more tense, lets say, there is such a concept, precisely in cognitive warfare, the theory of social laser, when some problem, well, relatively speaking, through the media, the focus of attention falls and the group somehow begins to produce very large ones there, i dont know, write there, to call, that is, roughly speaking, they are rocking the boat, there is such a concept in the west as an index of human happiness, in our country it is measured, as if exactly the index of happiness, image, contentment of the state, this is how you look at where problems may arise in belarus, or do you have some kind of perspective on welfare and wellbeing there . Yes, there are different categories of sociological issues and different approaches to this dimension, this is, of course, a feeling of ones material wellbeing, confidence in the future, but there is also one such here is the component, what we talked about today, including the fact that it all takes the form of a war of meanings, a very important issue is the personal selfidentification of the person himself. That is, it is precisely the feeling of pride for your country, the feeling of patriotism, in this regard there is also an interesting trend, that is, what does it mean to you to be a direct citizen of the republic of belarus . Of course, indeed, there are very high marks there this is an indicator of having a passport and a citizen, as a form of selfidentification, but the next category is know to respect the history of your country, and directly, when exactly there is respect for the history of your country, its knowledge and pride, because again, those are the memorable dates, memorable. Centers, how the socalled happens. An attempt on history, an attempt, these are the meanings, again remember, that is, knowledge of history is our main defensive reaction now, and even more so we need to take into account the fact that people are proud of their history, again, what Andrei Petrovich spoke about, defensive reaction, super idea, meaning, main thing, for the sake of which those things are done or other actions, by a person, by a state, if we are talking about the United States of america, they will make America Great again. If we say about the Russian Federation, yes, well, this is the russian empire, they have their own vision of themselves and feelings in this world, china is exactly the same, belarus is a young independent state, we very often here try to crystallize this National Idea of ​​ours, but i dont know , is it possible to compare it with this super idea of ​​meaning, but it seems to me that if we globally understand what stands above all some possible economic. Problems, some misunderstandings , what is more important, and what cannot be given, then a lot of issues will be resolved, Andrei Petrovich, you talked about china, that they have their own way, their own special one, yes, why they managed, lets say, not the best of times , to become great, blocked them with their firewall and everything went straight to vadim, he says economics, first of all such people appeared, such an idea, but where . At what point in Economic Development will we begin to act more actively, where is this, how to determine this, you were arguing here about galoshi, about the second economy in the world, why it collapsed, that is, there are a lot of controversial issues, but nevertheless, nevertheless, china, the socialist state, the leading role of the communist party, that is, they, in all likelihood, have gone away all those same shortcomings, the remnants that left, they also correctly, or rather, correctly built their internal Foreign Policy, a state such as china, by and large, today has solved many internal problems, yes, they have digitalization, and the digital revolution, everything, and the Rating System of construction, that is , whether its good or bad, probably time will tell, look how they competently maneuvered, being a communist country between the west and the east, well, relatively speaking. That is, how competently they maneuvered, look, they were able to convince that this is exactly the platform that will allow for further development, will give impetus to the development of economic progress, and the United States and europe kept investing money there, by and large, returning again , this is essentially becoming the first today the economy of the world, the west was alarmed, they realized that today problems arise, how can we deal with this same china . All conceptual documents state that russia is a priority task, and china is a longterm task, but in all these documents the ultimate goal is defined, that they must win and one second, before the thirtieth year, of course, this is the super idea, its also interesting, if we look at nato documents, they have an interesting description of how the russian army operates and in what way, for example the chinese army is operating. Here is the russian army, well, to put it simply, fast, nonstop day and night until the enemy is completely defeated, in general , catch up with a butt on the head to kill the enemy, this is clearly spelled out, and china has soft power everywhere from the outside, go, look here and there, then yes, if we turn to some old ones, petrovich, well, soft power requires money, i agree with vadim here, without this, the answer to belarus, ill explain, you never compare small and mediumsized states. One moment, the second moment, listen, we, ill tell you a secret, somehow, even at the highest level, we once conducted such a survey, even between such serious people, yes, which way is better, just think like that, well so anonymously, but there were different opinions, it was a long time ago, well, 8 years, probably 10 years ago, i want to tell you this, we had to be very careful even in identifying certain aspects. Because we have very, lets say, neighbors who are jealous of these aspects, and in order to maintain our sovereignty, you see, we had to weave very thin lace so as not to be exposed, and now sometimes we may need to wait, to identify some aspects a little later, but somewhere we cant say that anymore, so again, whats the problem, if we are talking about this Global Center of gravity. Which the Russian Federation could become , the position has not been formulated as to where we are sailing with this big ship, an empire is not enough, there were a bunch of empires that rotted in history the chinese empire, the roman empire, and so on. Where are we going, why and why not . Belarus, of course, we have formulated the foundations, look, we have done a lot, by the way, largely in parallel with the Russian Federation , we have written traditional values ​​into the constitution, we dont have any perversions in our families anymore, there never will be, i hope, that means normal attitude towards a woman, towards a man, towards a child, towards the army, the exodus war unites us, that is , the value is a whole series of values, but there are certain aspects, you understand, we cannot suddenly jerk like that, because they dont. Give us, listen, there is a resource, opportunity, so when the economy, i explain the economy, china acted very competently, it was he who exploited the alliance, and when the americans needed an ally in the form of china, they bought china, gave them their market and china grew at the expense of the american market, this is true, this is china , the americans at one time lost the vietnam war and weakened and lost to iran, and then china became more independent, now look, denying, relatively speaking, excuse me for using your example, mine is from the maldives, that there is maseration, we give our opponents the opportunity to say, look, we offer you this, and they offer you, you dont need to deify all these values, you dont need to deify them, but you need to properly explain that if you earned honestly, if you paid taxes , im not ready to sell the country for a foreign car, then you can consume normal values, but its better to produce at home, a product made in belarus is better made, be proud, let me ask a utilitarian question, forgive me, in fact, just because the program ends, i we always want to know what we should do, we as journalists and you as experts are on the edge of this war, but very often they tell us that we should slow down somewhere, always when they say, the little naughty one is not slowing down, but the tour is here hes like. Hes liberal, yes igor, i completely disagree with this, i ve written about this a thousand times, that if grisha is a sanitary man, you re just like a sniper rifle, so the question is where should we stop or not stop . The worst thing we can do is to adopt any from the ideologies of the worlds hegemons, to try in order to exalt ourselves a little internally, to become attached to it, which is what many small and mediumsized states do, we are relatively. A state located between hegemons, our Strategic Task is to preserve sovereignty, i once reviewed davich, the best quotes from alexander lukashenko, in 2020 he said, among other things, the following your president , whom you elected long ago, will never be the last, this is the main the purpose of our existence as a state, just calls for this we will not achieve this, in order for. The majority of people to understand that our main task is to preserve sovereignty, sometimes for this we need to take a step back in economic benefits, consumption there, and so on, if people are doing relatively well with the economy, everything live plus or minus well, then they will give up something more, with greater consent, for sovereignty, if people live worse, the economy will work worse, then convincing this number of people that the main sovereignty will be more difficult, bad. Living people will quickly fall for someone elses ideology. Can i ask you a question that is also practically historical when you come to any caucasian country, no matter how badly they live, they will always take up arms, when war comes, take ukraine, everyone who fled to the west is people who live well and always think , how to avoid a trip to the front. And here they say that these are the traditions that they unite around themselves, clans, history, everything else. In the caucasus traditions are alive, in ukraine they turned out to be not alive, so this is how to preserve it, you know, and they dont always live well there, but they are ready to give up even the fact that they live well in order to protect their country, well, this is a question of religion and this topic is generally so against us contrasting normal life and normal ideology, this is idiocy, lets do this here i am, the most important enemies of belarus are fools, these are the most important ones. And yes, you need to have cores, but the one who will only use everything exclusively to do everything in the interests of his state, in the interests of only national ones, he will make a lot of enemies for himself, thats how it is here the problem of china, the parosel islands, the spravli islands, shinkaku and kashmir, the uighurs, the mass , mass of irreconcilable enemies, there are very wise words, and we must never, never forget for them, we dont choose neighbors, we really need to. Was not plunged into this war, into this global confrontation, but i say again, but at the same time we need the core that we have, the one who is strong inside is very difficult to shake, this is true, i think that this is the opinion of everyone who was present at our discussion today, one way or another otherwise in different words, but we all understand perfectly well that if we are convinced of something, if something is really important for us, then we can give up something smaller and less important for us, which is important for belarus, there is a lot here they said, this is our independence, which we acquired not so long ago, but it is even more valuable, the underground won in the soviet union , you know why, because it was not the same as usual, it seems like they came out of stereotypes, which means we need to create wider stereotypes in order to so that it seems to us that this is what it is our normality. The president of belarus held negotiations with the governor of the region; this is the largest Industrial Center in the Northwestern Region of russia, an important area of ​​partnership, import substitution and industrial cooperation. Belarus is ready for cooperation in absolutely all areas, in industrial construction, supply of Building Materials and elevator equipment. The head of state proposed identifying several flagship projects in each key sector, including livestock farming, agricultural processing, and government will have to inform about the results of joint work once every six months. The president spoke today with the head of the Hungarian Foreign ministry about the multipolar world, the role of the eu, the situation in ukraine and bilateral relations. Budapest has always been distinguished by its good policy towards our country, and piotr sziarta is a frequent guest in minsk, and today he arrived in belarus capital to participate in