Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240702

The chinese, and china performs, now hes all about the league, how interesting and ambitious the plans are here, again our coach is at the helm of the Chinese National team at the asian games, think about it, tell us, but for now oleg shareika, who represented the Chinese National team at the asian games, they come to us, so that there was no pause, they sent a young team, this team was led by igor popruga, and so. As i already found out, they call shareika our teacher, and they call popruga our professor, this speaks of the high status of our coaches, and its normal for them it turns out that the work and the team are not worthy of the chinese performance, both the one and the other performed here, because its impossible, i could say this at one time when i was elected chairman. Its impossible to raise the chinese team in one day, but as shevtsov said , our head coach, whats behind china the future, they have such an opportunity to select players, such an opportunity to select this potential, that there is no such opportunity, what are you talking about, and we cooperate with them, this is also beneficial for us, because the emphasis of the game, as i have repeatedly said, is the chinese team , this is exactly national, this is representativeness, this is an asian emphasis on games that both the koreans and the chinese have, but its good for us, because our guys train on them too, they on us, and we on them, and i think that in the future must be. A good continuation, well, for now, the fact that they are performing, all the holihi will begin to perform , this is already another step forward in our cooperation, thanks to these our representatives of the federation, who work with them and carry out this work with dignity, we had a great tournament, a great final turned out to be that season, now there are more teams, you like it, so im talking about the final, which turned out to be. The olympic games, because the derby of our two belarusian teams is wonderful, here ska and bgk, and bgk literally snatched this victory in the last seconds, the whole the game is before your eyes, and the excitement that was in the stands, and there were bgk fans, and ska fans, it really was a celebration of belarusian handball, this year its even more interesting because the chinese team got involved, the circle of participants has expanded, which for us the most important thing, perhaps not even, is the victory itself, in the future of the belarusian, some of the belarusian teams, because the russians took this very seriously, they have a much larger lineup of worthy teams than we do, i think that we have it like there were such there are bgk, here is gomel, masheko. Let them study, if you take the composition of russian teams, look at the age range, there are guys, we have young guys, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old, and this is taking into account the fact that we currently do not have international games, this is practically train, study, play, achieve victories, as the president said, play with who you need, with whom, who is with you. I watched on television how gomel played against the pirom bears, worthy games, simply worthy and bad that we have a bench its not enough, the guys are young, in the first half we didnt concede, we were hitting the ball, in the second we sat down a little, thats okay, its a good experience, just recently, literally a month ago, i came across the story of bntu belas, in the summer sharovarov was worried that the girls would run away, that for the story, they eventually changed their legal form , yes, as far as i understand, yes, there were problems, they got to the point where the children went on summer vacation, and the salary was not paid, so i had to intervene directly, but in general, when you start working in this way, here you need its just not something to treat someone defiantly, everyone is used to counting their money, these are the same leaders who. Who sponsored the bin, everyone works there too and every penny counts, so with the support of the minsk regional executive committee, directly the chairman, the head of the head of the sports department, we met with the relevant leaders, before that, although i may have been a little harshly critical, thanks to the television i spoke, they didnt cut it out what i said, because somehow the children leave and the money is not paid, thank you, everyone responded, listened, we made a new form, here i am yesterday, i know that today we will have an interview, i talked with the team leader, he said that there are no problems, cooperation continues and i think it will be even more so in the future successfully, in the long term we want bntu belac, this is our leading womens club, like gomel, and minsk is minsk, to create exactly the same school with the same scope in womens handball, as it did extremely together with its team, this will be , we will begin to compete with our friends with dignity russians, who are still head and shoulders above us, well, this is a fiveyear perspective , yes, its not fast, well, of course, not five days, yes , uh, well try to reduce it as much as possible, for this we have now appointed Valery Petrovich pivnitskaya as head coach womens team, a thoughtful person, so pedantic, with the russian one, all the legionnaires will be there, on november 2, 3 we are playing in gomel and on november 5 we are playing in minsk, if you can voice it on television, because well, all the legionnaires will come, our russian ones, there will be one the same king, it will be, i am this piece ill leave it like this from you, okay, i stayed, in the future they talked a lot about the integration of belarusian. Clubs into the russian championships, but in terms of the result there, at least it will be very difficult for belarusians. The volleyball players of the imenchanka miner continue to go without victories in the mens and womens russian championships. The girls have four wheels in a row, but today we will talk more about the men. The miner was replaced by a builder who promised that we would all feel the difference. Its hard to feel it in matches with grands, dynamo and zenit. But belogorye could have been beaten in the cup. On at the moment, the miner is one of seven teams in the mens super league that do not have. The game didnt quite work out for us today, especially the first game, the opponent knocked out the move, unforced errors, in principle they lost easily, then, maybe in the second game that it was a little better, but unfortunately it didnt work out, well, we led the third game, well, we didnt put the pressure on, we didnt put the pressure on, unfortunately, today the opponent was better. Belogorie is a difficult team, which was difficult, they had a strong serve, which we were not quite able to handle cope, but we still have away matches ahead, so we hope to win. The volleyball miner really showed its not the best start, the club, which aims to get into at least the top 12 teams in the super league, is still stalling in the russian cup. In the match with belogorye, the fans still hoped for a victory for the saligory team; from the brief comments after the match, it was clear that the opponent was not as simple as it seemed, since he was able to surprise even experienced legionnaires. By the way, about them. Since the beginning of the season, the miners have received two davids at once. Only one straight from serbia, the second is from cuba, but for both the reason for the decisive transition was precisely the opportunity to play in the super league. I chose shakhtar because this is a very attractive opportunity for me to play in the russian super league, and this, by the way, played the biggest role in this transfer, which is why i came here, and not to some other team, to try myself in this strong championship. For me it was not a difficult choice, because playing in the russian championship is one of the most difficult, it is very prestigious, i got into the miner by recommendation my friend who said that this is a very good team, so i gladly accepted the offer. By the way, in the match with belogorye, mehich first came onto the court to defend the colors of the new club, and even at the start of the sligarchan team, an experienced player who at one time performed very successfully. In the serbian cup and championship, in this match he did not show himself in the best way and was replaced before the end of the first game, we couldnt help but ask what went wrong with the finisher in the new team. Yes, this was my first game at the start of the team, i m still trying to adapt to the players, and the guys themselves are still getting used to me, theyre seeing what im capable of, this is just the beginning of the season, i think everything will happen next. Not in the best shape, until he shows such a game, today he was given a chance so that he could behave somehow, because he really hasnt played much and he wants to play, but today, unfortunately , the game didnt work out either, not the best game, a professional player , of course, he needs to improve, he needs to improve in all elements, in principle, he was in the serbian National Team all summer worked, well, we expect him to show the best, because todays game, of course. From the start of his stay he showed what he was capable of and the coach, without hesitation, immediately released the athlete onto the court. The cuban does not hide the fact that he was very worried about how his new team would receive him, but everything turned out much better than one could imagine. Before moving here, i was worried about how it would be for me on a new team in a new country, but all my teammates are very friendly, very responsive, and i am very pleased to be here. I really like the belarusian mentality i like it, everything is great. David mechic also speaks positively about the new team, he has clearly already found friends, and the mining town also received him very well, so there are definitely no problems with relationships in the team, but the miners are clearly having a hard time with the russian champions. The super league is a big surprise for me, there are a lot of big, strong guys here, which shows very good volleyball. In europe and russia there are different volleyball schools, so here you have to play completely differently. Already on october 25, the miners will play a return match against belogorye, which, by the way, has finally found a home for this season. The team, unlike the last championship, will play all the games in the hope that the soligorsk team has worked on their mistakes and we will still be able to finally celebrate their victory. Its hard for team events to lift the sanctions, but flying has started at least in relation to individual events; individual swimming has nowhere to go. The belarusians were finally allowed to the world cup stage in a neutral status , its very. Trying to see how they feel there, win medals, but the pedestal does not allow them, christinege was interested in learning every little detail, and life according to the new rules, the seconds shown, and the relationships of the rivals and olympic prospects, so she met the team at the airport at 3 00 in the morning. Almost 2 years ago, at the minsk airport, our Swimming Team met at the world competition for the last time, thats how long the team was excommunicated from Major International tournaments, but worth aquatics in september allowed belarusians to compete under its auspices, its impossible not to note how well our team worked side, all checks were promptly completed at the end of october, and the athletes had the opportunity to compete at the world cup in budapest. Its a great experience for us to compete there every time with the best athletes in the world, and nothing can replace these feelings, to start there with swimmers with girls who. Set new World Records every day, so im very happy, of course, very pleased, as if there were starts, everything was fine, the results were growing, but still something was missing from this competition, even the same basic communication with people. Other people with whom you have performed, so to speak, your entire career, that is, this is not enough, and its as if emotions overwhelm, your eyes sparkle, yes, you come like just a little boy, you look around, you even swim and you start to get distracted because you forgot what it is, of course, the belarusians competed in a neutral status without state symbols, according to the conditions of the International Federation of the sport, swimmers could only compete at individual distances, they were also forbidden to communicate with the media, they were not invited ours. To honor, but we note that only those athletes who completed all three stages of the world cup were invited to the ceremony, otherwise the guys did not notice any special treatment, they supported, tried to hold it until the last, because at any moment we could find out that we were allowed in, that we were going somewhere, so we always had to be prepared, of course, when we arrived there, the first thing was that everyone was so friendly, everyone was so welcoming in terms of saying hello, basically supporting each other before the start and everything was missing. These emotions that, so many athletes, and that you come out with these emotions, they seem to come back, you start to breathe a little differently, and add a little motivation, of course, that its not just that you do all this and that you train for a reason, a little i think i was so invigorated, i even woke up, and i think that even this added a little bit of motivation to me, even more, and even more, the visiting delegation from belarus is still small, world record holder ilya shimmanovich, champion. Planet cup stage alina zamushko and medalist of russian championships anastasia kulishova. Initially , only the leaders of the National Team were submitted for verification by world aquatics in order to return them to the world stage as soon as possible. In our queue we also have personal trainers for athletes, a doctor, a massage therapist, this is the staff of athletes who come out all the time to provide practical assistance. The rules of the game were determined by the International Swimming federation. So far only four athletes have been allowed there, of course, this list will expand, at least two or three more people will be in the near future go through registration, as a result of the check, if they pass, then they will meet all the criteria , they will also receive such a status, they had to return to the world in order to at least be able to fulfill the selection standards for the World Championship and the olympic games, something happened, something is wrong, there is still time. To draw certain conclusions and move on, its clear that we didnt expect to immediately get into the queens in prizes, for all, all of the visiting teams, but the thing is that this is still the beginning of the season, here it is initially we didnt make such grandiose plans to participate in the world cup stage, its an olympic year, we need to qualify for the world, win licenses and already fight for awards, the more often we take our athletes to such an international arena. With a high level of competition, the more confident he will feel at the World Championships and, accordingly, at the games. Perhaps the best success of the world cup stage in budapest was anastasia shkurdai. The breshchanka concentrated on swimming on her back. Starting at a distance of 100 m, she qualified for the World Championships in doha and the olympics in paris, but in the final she became fourth, but already at a distance of 200 m, the girl won silver and at the same time showed the standards for both qatar and france. I assess my form as very, well, good, satisfactory, and i actually completed two selections for the olympic games, at the moment this was one of the main tasks, i completed it, i can now calmly prepare for the World Championships in doha, i know that i already have the selections , that is, i dont need to get hung up on this now, but ill just improve my seconds further for these starts, so everything is going according to plan so far. Alina zmyshko rose to the third place and became the Honorable Mention of fifty dollars with bras. In the 100meter dash , the belarusian became fourth in the girls race using the same style. It turned out that it was just someone who came back from vacation earlier, someone later , so im probably one of those who were later, so there was a little less time, but nevertheless, i think that, in principle, everything it turned out well and we will continue to continue, everything will now be directly preparing to go to the world cup, since we are already officially so to speak, we have fulfilled the selection standards and will now officially prepare for it, but i still think there is enough time. To prepare to sail even better. The womens wing of the team was also represented by anastasia kuleshova, whose best result was ninth place in the 100 m butterfly. As for the team leader, so far Ilya Shimanovich is fifth in the fiftykopeck race and ninth in the 100meter dash by bras, but the athlete admitted that his form is now far from ideal. I am satisfied with the seconds, because with the coach the task was to fulfill the qualifying standard for the World Championship, we actually made it through, made it to the finals, but didnt make it into the top three, but. Like a competition, a struggle, everything was very close, the preparation so far, so to speak, was practically nonexistent, that is, yes, i somehow tried to maintain sports shape, i had an operation, then a long, long recovery without training at all. Weeks, that is, for 5 weeks i did nothing at all, that is, for me it was just something new, then i started Training Camps there for 23 weeks, then again the vacation, which was originally planned, combined pleasant and useful, this resulted in, in principle, the qualifying standard, so everything is in order, now we will begin full preparation, and everything will return to its normal course, now our swimmers will be preparing for the belarusian championship, which will be hosted by the aquatic sports palace in brest from the seventh until november 11, then there are plans to participate in the russian championship and the salnikov cup, and thats all for today, the telelenova agency presents the project sports frame for belarus 5. See you later. Hello, the sas program is on air its presenter, nadezhda sas, can also say, i welcome you. Let me remind you that this is a program for those who want to better understand what is happening and understand how these processes, events, people will affect the life of the country and each of us. Lets summarize the results of the parliamentary elections in poland, immediately after the digest of key events in World Politics this week. More than 800 people were killed and injured due to the attack on the aliara hospital in the gaza strip. Palestine blamed israel for the attack. In turn, israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared the noninvolvement of israeli military. The israeli army is convinced that Islamic Jihad is to blame. The heads of middle Eastern Countries blamed jerusalem for the incident. Authorities in iraq and saudi arabia called the attack a war crime , while the egyptian president said israel had violated International Laws and demanded an immediate ceasefire, and jordans leadership canceled a planned summit on the israelipalestinian conflict with the leaders of the United States, egypt and palestine. In belgium, a gunman shouting allah akbar shot and killed two swedish fans. The incident occurred approximately 5 km from the stadium where the qualifying match for euro 2024 between the football teams of belgium and sweden took place on the evening of october 16. After the news about the shooting, the game was played. Interrupted, a video appeared on social networks in which an arabicspeaking man claimed that he was the shooter. In the video, he called himself a follower of the Islamic State group and said that he killed infidels, thereby avenging the muslims who were dying for the religion. The situation with the terrorist attack may repeat itself, because belgium has become a refuge for hundreds of thousands immigrants who do not integrate into european society. In beijing on the last day between. At the International Forum one train one track, negotiations between Vladimir Putin and sidzenpin took place. The meeting lasted 3 hours. Putin agreed with the need for close Foreign Policy coordination between moscow and beijing. He also shared his forecast that trade turnover between russia and china will exceed 200 billion by the end of 2023. The head of gazprom, alexey miller, said on the sidelines of the forum that the volume of russian pipeline supplies gas supplies to china may soon reach the volume that was previously supplied to the countries. Western europe. Since 2019, russia has been supplying gas to china via the power of siberia pipeline. It is expected that by 2024 , supplies through it will reach a volume of 30 billion cubic meters. There is also the power of siberia 2 gas pipeline project, which involves supplying up to 50 billion cubic meters of gas from russia to china via mongolia. Well, today we are talking about poland again. In warsaw , the government is not just changing. Where he returns again politics, internal struggle, traditions of gentry civil strife, and i would like to quote the historian nikolai heinz on this subject, leaving a heavy yoke for the people, the gentry sought for itself freedom, which can only exist in an abstract concept, and the result of such efforts was the liberum veto, which gives the right of one member of the sejm to paralyze the decision of all the others, the famous historical. I will not allow the phrase which can serve as the best eloquent epitaph over the political grave of poland, will those who imagine themselves to be the builders of the new the polishlithuanian commonwealth is the same ending that befell the previous such a power, we speak in todays program, i am glad to welcome you, nikolai evgenievich buzin, doctor of military sciences, professor, hello, and nikolai moratovich mizhevich, doctor of economic sciences, director of the Belarusian Center are already present in our studio. Institute of europe wounds, i am glad to welcome you, good afternoon, according to tradition , we begin our program with the blitz question, do you expect that poland will now immerse itself in itself, limit its. I think that for the next month, polands activity will Foreign Policy tracks, as they now say, will decrease somewhat, well, you first need to figure out who owns the country, and then move east against russia and belarus or to the west against germany, but first you still need to sort yourself out a little, given the recent resignation. A number of leaders of the armed forces of the polish republic, this task is urgent, and then, then everything will return to the previous antibelarusian and antirussian course. Yes, nikolai evgenievich, will the internal and external policy change, and will it be enough, taking into account the internal civil strife for classes external . I completely agree with nikolai aratovich, the part concerning polands activity in the near future will be approximately occupied with its internal issues until the new year, periodically turning to the external vector, so to speak, but as for the fact that activity will decrease, probably not, throughout there is no probability, because as soon as they figure it out inside, they will immediately remember about the grievances, they will immediately remember about their geostrategic tasks, here. Skala, leader of the communist party of moravia, joseph, we are glad to see you, we are discussing the results of the parliamentary elections in poland, how did Czech Society personally perceive the results of these elections, did they surprise you . Good afternoon to you and your colleagues, and good afternoon, of course, to all tv viewers. Maybe they are not so interested in the polish elections, but that part of our society that is more politically active, in my opinion, it is its alternative part that would agree with what your guests in the studio simply said, yes, poland is very little independent in her Foreign Policy, she connects to the task of his susan, as it was beautifully called here, and i think that the difference between donald tusk and his government and the previous government will be more in the details than in any strategic changes. I wanted to say that our generation, which remembers more, of course, its difficult, can forget about the very tragic consequences of polish nationalism in the thirties, when it finally got involved with. Dictatorship, simply stole part of our territory from us, and so on , and it seems to me that this is a disease, spiritual, maybe its or mental, it comes back to the polish nationalists, they just think again that they can become some kind of important player on behalf of a foreign power, in the thirties we all remember who this power was, today too. We know who is a power, so for us this is not a very Good Neighbor from that point of view, jozaf, and literally for a moment i want to draw the attention of our viewers and, of course, clarify with you, justice on the one hand, civil position on the other, thats if were talking about fixing relations, will Foreign Policy, relations with the same republic of belarus change, in your opinion, because part of the Belarusian Society is convinced that tusks civic position is rather a new opportunity for softer relations between countries . I would also like to hope, and donald tusk is closer, say, to brussels than to washington to the same extent as kochinsky and others, so now that the conflict is in the east, in ukraine, he, so to speak, is going to in a direction in which the west did not expect it, in my opinion, the European Union will also have to maneuver, here the question will arise of large emigration from ukrainians to the west, the same to poland and so on and other , so to speak, consequences of what is happening in ukraine, maybe poland itself will feel more of its own, say, stupid policy, which does not help either europe , it is not flattering for us, thank you very much, the leader of the com with us , nikolai evgenievich, please tell me, justice has really changed its communication with the electorate, literally in the last month before the elections, we remembered that ukrainians are behaving quite aggressively in poland, they remembered that they need to think about personal interests, again , the situation with the ukrainian grain emarga, what do you think, how will their policy develop further, about justice is a very specific party, which adaptive, this word probably suits its leaders very well, they are ready to adapt to the situation, they have a very good sense of the intensity of passions in society, and even the most surprising thing is that they know how to give credit where credit is due, they know how to use their own mistakes to their advantage carrying out their own policies, therefore, to say that something will change in my opinion, it is wrong, in all likelihood, these were all election promises and the playing of those cards that could bring some benefit to the party, as soon as the elections are held with the authorities everything is clear, if they retain power, i think everything will be switched to the same tracks as it was, and probably the interest of their own people will be secondary in relation to the tasks that the Party Leaders will solve. Well, after processing 100 we can say with confidence that ultraright conservatives are losing parliament, coalitions of leftists and liberals, power in poland is really changing, lets Pay Attention to the graphics with the results of parliamentary elections, colleagues, please, its gratifying that in belarus and in russia those few who support poland watches, the attitude towards this is much more rational and reasonable than in europe and poland itself , where they sing an asana to get rid of kochinsky, but in the elections you treat us, well, this is quite natural, yes, everyone looks like that, so what do we we see the right of justice, the civil platform these are forces in relation to moscow and minsk that occupy almost the same position, but the right of justice is oriented towards washington, the civil platform is oriented towards berlin and brussels, but that makes it easier for us, for us there is some difference, no , another thing is that it is not very clear who will start looking for ways for negotiations and compromise first brussels with berlin or washington with london, but what if washington and london or brussels with berlin start looking for ways to negotiate with moscow and minsk, which means the position of these parties will change, they will be the first to come to moscow, to minsk, and so to speak, they will send delegations and bring flags first. But for this the position must change not in warsaw, in washington in brussels. And how correct is it to say that power is changing in poland, taking into account the fact that the country has a fairly strong president ial institution, and anzhi duda will remain in this post until 2025, power does not change, only individual policy vectors can change, nothing more, i i want it again. Draw your attention to this graph, it is very indicative , right, justice, civil platform , by and large there is an internal showdown within the state, the elites, one part of the elite is trying to maintain their status quo to remain in power, the second part is the civil platform, the third way the new left to create some kind of new reality or maybe development, but nothing will change fundamentally. And about this, this is the main thesis that everyone who is considering these elections needs to understand, the essence of polands policy will not change, it doesnt matter, we really liked the previous remark, if so, the United States, europe , no, forget it, the usa, europe are particular, the main thing is there is a position, lets call it the western world, today, it is not united , it doesnt matter, but europe today works under the connected, it lies under the connected. We wont get anywhere from this. The United States today is the most powerful state that imposes its position on the European Union. Accordingly, will poland be closer to the European Union, to the United States, or it will report directly, receiving instructions , or it will receive the same instructions through the European Union, so there is no hope for improving the interstate situation until a decision is made overseas. I want us to hear right now the opinion of the leader of the republic of belarus, alexander lukashenko, about what is happening in poland and discuss it in more detail. There is always hope that it is clear how they behave and will behave, but how those will behave, there is some hope that they are still they will take their heads in their hands and work to improve relations, by the way, polish diplomats also adhere to this position , including those who work for us, we must give them their due, well done, they understand what is happening, but they have also given up , they are waiting for elections, and they say, but if new forces come to power, then there is hope. We are preparing to the maximum for the worst case scenario, preparing for the worst, better, good, yes, it is impossible not to agree, and indeed, i think that the president also supports your words regarding that you cannot entertain yourself with illusions, you cannot watch with rose colored glasses. What is happening, unfortunately, this is again an illusion of choice among citizens of the European Union, it is present, but in fact nothing changes, nikolaich, it is important that our viewers understood that the party of justice and justice, which ruled for 8 years, was opposed not just by three separate political forces, with their own programs, they are very different from each other, quite significantly, but also that each of the three opposition parties essentially is the voter in the new coalition there will be not just three subjects, but at least six, from the ultraliberal spring, led by the openly gay robert biedran, to the conservative polish peasant party, this is how they can jointly govern and interact . Its very difficult for them to come to an agreement, in fact, thats why at the very beginning of your program there was a big quote about liberum. About the alllily of the gentry and so on and so forth, when we come to warsaw, i naturally have been there, well, a couple, three dozen times, yes, well, yes, classical european capital, well, what can you hold there, of course, in catholic, generally conservative poland, you can have a gay parade in warsaw, but when you come to some, well, as we say, regional center, lublin voivodeship, i assure you, what a gay parade, there if i dont serve in the church at the appointed time, then it means im already a child of hell , because any normal pole should be in the service, he should lead the life that his ancestors led, that is, this is also in the east, to a lesser extent in in the west, of course, for obvious reasons, but this is a country of traditions, it is such traditionalists that rights and justice rely on, there will be an operation, by the way, this is what unites us, and, by the way, when justice and justice came to power, we had certain hopes that this would be an understanding of christian values, traditions, will unite us, but alas, antirussian, antibelarusian issues knocked poland out of the ranks, not even of allies, but simply of neutral countries, but it was no coincidence that we saw the president of the republic of belarus in uniform surrounded by military personnel, why are we all. Worries in polish in relations with poland, but everything is generally calm, because poland, poland of the 21st century, respects strength and sees that the republic of belarus is not unarmed, understands the threats, so they can talk a lot, and will talk, no matter who forms the coalition, but i still proceed from the fact that they will not agree to obvious open military provocations, although it is some kind of courage to make such forecasts, by the way, its interesting how the voter makes his choice, because for some, tusk is really a product of soros and globalist elite, in it also certainly has a threat, the imposition of the traditional, classical in the perception of man and the world of poland, and globalist ideas, which are indeed alien to many, but in this case. They give preference to a civil position, because the militant rhetoric has tired many, which we hear every day from the same morovets, duda, i would probably, so we cannot fully predict on the basis of what a simple pole makes a choice , because we do not live there, we do not know this situation, but based on, so to speak, a view from side allows us to say that today poland is split, split not really, but mentally, there is practically, i wont say 50 50, but somewhere 40 40, plus some additional components, these are people, these 40 , these are the people who adhere to almost radical positions, and one and here you understand, the gap is not only mental, not only geographical , not only economic, components have appeared here that poland could not even think about before, since it is, in principle , a single state, the majority , poles, it was correctly said, catholics with corresponding values, the state in this way. They rocked it, showed it, they made it so dependent on the europeans that today they themselves have to defend their identity, surprisingly, rights and justice, which is now baptized from right to left, is that force , which defends, at least in the eyes of the poles , this identity and historicity, yes, they play on nationalism, yes, they play the military card very strongly, but at the same time. They are trying to break away from the protectorate europe and the dictatorship of europe, a specific dictatorship in the economic sphere, a specific dictatorship in other areas, including in the social sphere, this gay, as you say, the gay parade, everything else, this is what is tearing apart polish society, not everyone is ready for this, justice has been in power for a long time, people are already a little tired of it, and the most important thing is that there was a lack of success before this Prime Minister, during his reign, lets say, poland lived in better conditions, but the circumstances were others had good relations with the east, it was a transit state, received a subsidy from the European Union, that is, people actually remember this, it was better then, and today each of the poles votes with nothing more than his own pocket and the future that he sees for his people, children, grandchildren, and so on and here there is hope. New, but at the same time there is the concept that this new can make things worse for the country and for his citizen personally, Something Like this, we are talking about donald tusk, and of course, i would like to remind excerpts from his biography to our respected viewers, the section portraits, donald tusk. Attention to the screen. Donald tusk is a polish and european political figure, one of the founders of the polish Civic Platform party, was the Prime Minister of poland until 2014, then resigned for the post of chairman of the european council. From 2019 to 2022, he was chairman of the european peoples party, the largest transnational party in the European Union. Tusk has repeatedly proposed radically changing the polish constitution, limiting the role of the president and expanding the powers of the head of government, strengthening the senate and reducing the number of sejm deputies from 460 to 300. However, all this remained unrealized; he also advocated close political and economic integration of poland into the European Union, which the country joined in 2004, and advocates maintaining eu sanctions against russia until the territorial integrity of ukraine is fully restored. Nikolai maratovich, we have been saying quite often lately that bright personalities, bright leaders in the European Union have been exterminated. Merkel is probably the final character who has left the merkel era. Mister tusk, what is your personal attitude towards him, recalling various episodes of his biography . Mr. Tusk enjoyed good support during the period when he was Prime Minister, he enjoys the support of part of the polish population and today, in fact, elections were held for him as a political figure, right . There are nuances, donald tusk, uh, is a pole, but a koshup, and this is a nationality, or ethnic group, aka germanized poles, who experienced the greatest impact from prussia, uh, he is not from the point of view of programs, not from the point of view of the program, proeuropean. Hes like sometimes they say that he is proeuropean in life, in this sense one cannot expect anything good from him, but indeed, poland has developed the prituski. Active ties with china, but how to get from china to poland . Through russia and belarus, dozens, hundreds of trains with cargo went from europe to china, from china to europe, and each pole received a very specific zloty from this. In many ways, it seems to me, a vote for his party is a vote in support of that course, but it cannot be, because today tusks position, relations russia and belarus are no different from the position of his opponents, on abortion yes, but you know, poland is still not ethiopia, here the problem of abortion is not so worrying for absolutely all age groups, well somehow, in general, even this is being solved problem, and one more thing, well, from personal impressions, in eastern poland, i heard many times from my polish friends that this is a german, he is simply called a german, but here you have to understand, any pole hears from his mother in the cradle that that dont trust the russians, comma, and dont believe the germans, that is, yes, the main enemies are in the east, but in the west, these are also enemies, in this sense, this is the last vote we are talking about, the western voivodeship. Voted for tutsk and his party, and the eastern ones for kaczynski, its clear, this is at the level of voivodeships, at the level of gminas, poviatov, the situation will look much more complicated, warsaw is generally as usual, well, minsk votes differently, moscow votes differently, riga votes differently than latvia, yes, well, whatever, but in general here this situation exists, therefore there will be some instability, and why does tusk actually propose. The powers of the president , well, because this is an old polish game, then increase the powers of the president , then reduce it, pelsudsky was removed from power, he sat and thought, with the military, so to speak, he resolved the issues, and once there was a coup in poland , and returned to save the polish state, however, he died, i would say, on time, the whole weight of the shame of the division of czechoslovakia, which we heard from our respected colleague from the czech republic, did not fall on his shoulders, there was enough other shame, but this did not fall, it lay on his successors, thats why, of course, in poland now there will be not very simple processes, first they will propose to form a coalition, of course , to morowiecki, that is, justice, and then of course, if morowiecki fails, the chances are 50 50, yes, how to meet a dinosaur on. Tusk has the right to form coalitions, but he may not succeed, then there will be new elections, and this will of course be a masterpiece. The opposition naturally expects tusk to take the position of Prime Minister, is there a chance, nikolai evgeni, what do you think . There is a possibility, but again, i agree with my colleague, 50 50, no more, for one simple reason. You cant write off the authority of peace today, you cant, its such a party that, again , is adaptive, second, able to use any factors in its own interests, i wouldnt be surprised if they find in the composition of these parties, which are big, where we speak, there is not one party, there are several parties within , their own supporters, and for them it will be enough. Somewhere around a few dozen votes will be enough, which may not even directly support them, but will vote like that necessary, either bought or persuaded, the party of law and justice has a very Large Resource left, including in government bodies, in bodies in the media, in the Financial Sector, in industry, economics and so on, so the likelihood is that this can happen, tus. Its 50 50, but i also want to turn to one moment, hangout, because horseradish is not sweeter than radish by and large, kochinsky happens, well, if we go down in history, he comes from the family of an army officer regional, kochinsky, what as for tusk, his grandfather served in the german troops for a period, and then the most interesting thing is that he himself, as a historian, by the way, had his First Education in history, he studied pilsudski very carefully and he even had a corresponding job when he was studying at the university with regards to pelsudsky, i in no way exclude that the example. Of this polish politician, he has a very deep fuse, the direction to the east, he has in his head just like kaczynski, and to solve his problems at the expense of external enemies this is a very good option that can be solved by one second candidate, it will not make it any easier for us. Let me remind you that the program is on air, sas is authorized to announce the supply. The results of the parliamentary elections in poland, our film crew visited poland on the eve of and after the parliamentary elections, talked with the poles, learned about their moods and their expectations, we are watching together. To the service, the states are pursuing their own policies and want to control the polish state, its government, they demand influence on the central system of the country, and today we we can clearly see how we have lost polish sovereignty. We are watching this government with sadness, we have slipped in terms of Living Standards several decades ago, inflation is rising, the economy is in decline, and we are generally approaching the moment when we will be withdrawn from schengen and the European Union. There are not even competitors in this election, be it the opposition or the ruling party, there is one principle of pursuing american interests, they leave the poor polish people, literally speaking, poor and weak, we cannot do what is needed us. We are unable to compete to have an equal political struggle with our modest means. Today, at a very critical moment in these elections, which should affect the life of the pole, we only get a loss of sovereignty. Without this political sovereignty, the ability to somehow influence this, we cannot in any way follow in accordance with national interests. Lets continue our discussion. Of course, i would like to draw attention in a little more detail to the opposition parties in poland who are going to form a coalition, on many issues, they differ, and the coalition will be problematic, lets take a closer look at our certificates, which we prepared with our colleagues. According to the results of the elections in poland, three opposition parties received the majority of seats in parliament. The Civil Coalition led by donald tusk received more than 30 of the votes. The alliance promises to correct the mistakes of the current government in foreign and domestic policy, improve relations with brussels, and also liberate. Media, cultural activities from the current restrictions and censorship, about 15 of voters supported the third way, the bloc, which is based on the centrist polish peasant party, advocates an active role for the country in the European Union and nato for the need to strengthen relations with germany and france within the framework of the weimer triangle, against centralization of the expansion of the rights of local influence selfgovernment, about 9 of residents sided with the union of left parties. Movements support the establishment of relations between polish regions and the kaliningrad region of russia, and oppose transatlantic trade and investment partnerships, rewriting the history of world war ii, and demolishing monuments honoring the red army in poland. Nikolai boratovich, it was not in vain that you said that in poland donald tusk is called a german; the experience of the coalition of social democrats, greens and liberals in germany itself has shown what an artificial unification is. Olaf scholz is now breaking all antirecords with his actual level of support in society. Can we expect that tusks coalition will also be waiting for such a quick crisis, collapse and early elections, which you have already talked about, which will ensure revenge for the piss. Social democrats, 100 years ago, it was. Which ultimately did not agree to a bloc with the communists in germany, as a result hitler came to power. And then in the concentration camps, the social democrats and communists lived quite amicably, but not for long. This was the price for the mistake, but 100 years have passed. And those people who call themselves social democrats in europe today have nothing to do with it, in their historical continuity, its just hitler, and not at all not the social democrats of the Weimar Republic in germany, there are exactly the same pseudosocial democrats in estonia, in latvia in lithuania, social democrats in germany, they are faithful servants, well, as if before the most vile imperialism and hegemanism, and their ancestors, yes, with this the same name, on the barricades against fascism. This is the story, so a serious opponent for donald tusk is levitsa, but she is still the weakest in the opposition system. This battle, uh, tusk with kaczynski and his henchmen, does not bode well for us. In Foreign Policy unfortunately, they are very similar. And, uh,. To expect from them any steps in our direction , at least for now there is no reason, although you know, not so long ago i spoke with a member of the European Parliament who represents germany, maximilian kra, he even took part several times via skype in our program, and took part in a round table in the European Parliament, but after that the latvian vicepresident decided to block our access to this institution, but nothing, i think we have other methods of communication, so he didnt. Said that not long ago with the deputy of the European Parliament, which represents poland, was talking over a glass of beer, then he tells him, you know what im doing , right now, he says, well, tell me, im reading dostoevsky in russian, maximilian really laughed, surprised, he says, why, he says, i think, which will soon come in handy, heres how nikolai evgenich interprets such words, because it seems that the russophobic position has captured the whole of poland, although it seems to me that thinking people and even part of society. Unfortunately, we dont have this sociology, but its not set up like us we imagine that this is exactly the word you said correctly, and part of the answer was in your question thinking people, they exist, they exist in poland, and there are soberminded people, and those who today see what dilemma the country faces, because its not for nothing that 72 of poles came to the polls, this has never happened before, even the previous time when soviet power was demolished, that was in the nineties, the maximum number of people who came was 67 percent, or something, that is, people see that life has become worse, that are going somewhere incomprehensible, those who thinks, they have always been there, but people have appeared who understand that poland may be late , poland may not have time to fit into the new picture of the modern world, which is being built today in no way in europe, it is being built today in the east, thats exactly the summit that took place one train, one track in china, where the chinese russian leader met, this is where the foundations of the future world order are laid, poland, the current political system of poland, they cut off this component and place poland outside this new one education, therefore. Smart people began to reread philosophical books in russian, they understand that cutting off the eastern vectors and abandoning the work of interaction with those who for centuries ensured the Economic Development of europe is impossible, this is nonsense, this is an artificial formation , this. Its illogical, there is such a concept, logic, it calls for interaction, and those states that do not understand this in the near future will remain beyond the threshold of history, so today some are starting to read in russian, some carefully look at what the belarusian language is, and some remember that the kaliningrad region is still part of russia, and not as some call it. Today we must move not to a monologue on the one hand, but to a mutually respectful dialogue. Thank you very much, nikolai evgenievich, but we cannot help but recall the issue of the moravetsky grain embargo against ukraine carried out by the government. We have already talked about this, but a new rapprochement with kiev is expected from the tusk government. Nikolaich, do you agree with this, or is this again someone elses wish list . Of course, kiev would like to have a guaranteed channel of communication with berlin and brussels through warsaw, but uh, dont overestimate the degree of influence of donald tusk and his supporters, they cannot, they do not have such results as to ignore the opinion of at least half of the poles, and that half of the poles who are really for. From the land deal are farmers, processors, residents of small towns, towns, they are kaczynskis electorate, and if they now feel threatened by tusk, lets assume that the one who comes to power will implement this agenda, in the president ial elections, they will vote for all the forces of law and justice, then the government, even if it is formed. Tusk will have a bad time, the army will have law and justice, Foreign Affairs of law and justice will be, like the president , and state security also lies with law and justice, and these are serious levers, these are very serious levers, well then, after all, in good old poland one can never rule out a military coup as a means of solution internal problems, tradition, well, this is tough, by the way, it is important to note that the new coalition will include the polish. Party, so it is strongly opposed to the supply of ukrainian products, so somehow they can agree, but most likely with difficulty, in the end tusk will either maintain the ban on ukrainian exports, or risk collapsing your coalition already at the start , well, you know, theres still a third option to look at, maybe tusk, because if he manages to create a government for himself, he can come to an agreement with the European Union, here there may appear. Corresponding additional payments from the European Union, corresponding bonuses that will make it possible to cover this area , including work with ukraine, but these are again huge risks for the european budget, and yes, tusk will be helped, i have no doubt, the European Union will help him and they will solve this issue, but such friendship as there was six months ago, almost, the unification of two states into a single confederation and so on, this will not happen, every person, every citizen, including a polish citizen, he thinks first of all what will it bring him, and what will it bring the collapse of polish agriculture, industry will follow, problems in the Financial Sector and so on, it is growing, that the trigger in this case may be agriculture, and the electorate of agriculture is the electorate of kaczynski, and here the elites will have to negotiate, they will not find they are in contact, this is where there will be problems , and of course, nothing will fundamentally change in polands foreign defense policy, and even in relations with germany everything will not be the same as it was under tusk and komarovsky, because then merkel was in berlin, now there is no one even close to her, polish liberals will always find reasons for new friction with ukraine, because the reason for these frictions is fundamental, ukrainian nationalism is ready to accept. External control over ukrainians by anyone, just not a lyakh and not a katsap. Look, what a thing, there are half as many People Living in estonia as in minsk. For brussels, feeding estonia is not a problem at all. But poland is a completely different conversation, take on balance, all the wishes of mr. Tusk, to compensate for this, this, these are absolutely wild expenses for the reequipment. That is, for brussels to pay in warsaw, and with this money she will buy weapons in korea and washington, well, lets not offend brussels at all, well, there are no such idiots there, and we are talking about billions, not millions, but billions, so tusk doesnt have many opportunities to buy the loyalty of younger members in the coalition, they will give him something from old memory, after all, a european leader. Of this class, but not everything, too much is great for poland, well then its absolutely true, uh, in order for berlin to help warsaw, there must be other people in berlin. Merkel, with her east german past, traditions some awareness of historical guilt before poland, before even the soviet union, is a different person today. The German Foreign ministry is headed by a lady whose views, to put it mildly, raise questions not only with political, but from a medical point of view, adequacy, yes, that is, questions of adequacy, so the corridor donald tusks opportunities are also generally narrowing, but look, not so long ago we discussed polands ambitions in relation to ukraine on air. Western ukraine poland , we have already divided ukraine into three quite significant pieces. Today the situation has changed. What do you think is the reason . You either this is temporary, again, firstly , you understand, this is an adaptation to the times and the solution of political problems, as for the wishes, they remain, in no way will poland abandon this project, they are tied to it very serious, the future, there are a lot of political figures there, a lot of money , the philosophy of a pole, an ordinary person who remembers what happened there and. This is one thing, on the other hand, look at ukraine, everyone divides it all the time, they tell other things there , but there is a real war going on there, and someone will have to restore it someday, poland is not a worldclass player, he is not a worldclass player who can restore, restore order even in ukraine, this is the first, the second is historical differences that largely unforgotten and unknown. How will it all turn out if, god forbid, poland tries to move into the territory of ukraine. The third point, lets be honest, the ukrainian army, even if it is small now, is a fighting army capable of fighting back, and if a solution to the eastern direction is found, and compromises are resolved, i am far from thinking that poland will be able to cope with ukraines potential if this suddenly happens. Well, probably, and most importantly, poland itself probably understood long ago, and the political elites, that they are not able to bite off this big piece, but they are not able to do it today, so they are looking for those who will either pay for this component or help, and the bet is on the United States, but here is the worst thing, they just cant to realize for yourself that the world has changed, the United States does not have the weight and opportunities that it had recently. Todays events in the middle east show that even small states are not ready to sacrifice their interests for the sake of the United States, they raise their voices, they express his point of view, including a very small state, so to speak, palestine, which really does not exist, but abaas said that he would not meet with the president of the United States, and he complied with it. Where has this been seen, but poland just doesnt want to realize that it needs to fit into a new picture, here , this is the internal dismantling of poland, it goes to another plane, on a world scale, poland is a small state resolving its internal issues for the world tasks for europe, yes, this is some kind of litmus test, so to speak, paper, what is happening inside the union, but no one perceives these political processes as a world event, please note, we are talking about this topic,