Transcripts For BELARUSTV 20240703

To rejoice, this is also happiness. The president of belarus met with the head of the republic of mordovia, a delegation from this russian region has already visited our country a few days, a lot of joint work lies ahead, we are collaborating in traditional areas from Mechanical Engineering and metallurgy to the agroindustrial complex and petrochemicals, as well as. New projects. Alexander lukashenko sees prospects in cooperation. Trade turnover between our republics last year reached its maximum , approaching 90 million. But already in 8 months this record has been broken. Thats just almost 300 . Today we are talking about partnership not only in the context of the economy. By joint efforts we are ready to honor sacredly preserve the memory of our exploits ancestors during the great patriotic war. The cousin of the grandfather of the head of mordovia distinguished himself during the liberation of minsk. This is not just a work visit; when you enter our land for the first time as the head of a russian region, you are touching the heroic history of your family. Belarus remembers the feat of Senior Sergeant vasily fedorovich zdunovov committed during the patriotic war. By the way, heroes of the soviet union, they didnt just hand out heroes at that time, so i sincerely welcome your initiative to establish sistercity ties between the chervinsky district of the minsk region, where your grandfathers brother fought in his homeland, the otyashevsky municipal district of mordovia, our battles continue today in the fields, in factories, in the cultural and information spheres, in schools, universities, for our truth, our development prospects, our right to be sovereign and independent, all this will happen if we have a strong economy, this is the basis of everything. And today the president held talks with the head of midEquatorial Guinea. Alexander lukashenko noted the need to develop a specific relationship plan. First of all, this concerns the economy. Contacts between the countries have become more frequent after the visit of the head of the Central African state to minsk. In Early September and now the head of the ministry of Foreign Affairs arrived as part of a large delegation; agriculture, healthcare and tourism are considered Priority Areas of work. In addition, these connections are a gateway for belarus to the market of central west africa. The question of creating there Logistics Hub for belarusian products. According to alexander lukashenko, he will fly to africa in the near future. A visit to Equatorial Guinea is already planned. Gdp growth is also low. Inflation the ministry of economy of belarus announced the results for 9 months; despite the sanctions, the economy is developing. Gdp in januaryseptember grew by 3. 5 . And there are all the prerequisites for inflation to be at the level of 56 instead of the target 78. The main drivers of growth are trade, industry and construction. For example, according to the growth rate of industrial production, belarus remains a leader among the eac states. We see that we are almost at Production Capacity for passenger cars. Weve already produced about 49,000 cars there, which is almost four times more than last year, and so on, we ve produced two and two times more televisions, and the most important thing is that weve sold, what does this mean . The fact is that we have reduced inventories of finished products by almost a billion rubles, but real incomes of the population have increased by more than 5 , which is reflected in retail turnover, which increased by. Almost 7 . The opening of the final of the International Youth competition 100 ideas for the cis took place in minsk. The forum brought together young scientists from eight countries azerbaijan, armenia, belarus, russia, and kazakhstan. Kyrgyzstan, tajikistan and uzbekistan. For 3 years, young innovators conducted research in industry and biotechnology, healthcare and medicine, the it sector, tourism, culture and education. The main function of our project is to facilitate the stay of foreigners students in the republic of belarus. The main functionality of the program is an intelligent assistant that helps with registration and searching for the nearest place where you can grab a bite to eat for foreigners. The number of foreign applicants, students study, live on the territory of belarus and of course many foreigners study at bsu, we wanted to acquaint foreigners in general, including me, with the history of bsu, with its features, with services that can help foreigners in living with documents , psychological help, etc. Similar. This year, young scientists presented 45 projects. Ministry. Forestry invited belarusians to participate in the action of one and the same forest at once. Volunteers will be able to help forestry workers restore damaged areas. This year alone , more than 3,000 hectares of Forest Resources were damaged due to bad weather. Last year, as part of a Similar Campaign , more than 6. 5 Million Trees were planted in a week. This year the format of the event has been changed. The promotion will be held in all regions of the country on one day , october 21. To take part it is enough contact the nearest leskos. Or forestry to declare your desire. Monday, evening essentially, a political talk show, today we will talk about pedophiles , and in fact, is it curable or not, and what to do about it, my opinion has always been harsh, i probably always said that it is necessary to use some chemical methods of castration are possible , well, thats what well discuss, if you want to join our conversation, heres the qr code, point the camera of your smartphone there, join in, write questions, here is the second qr code, where you can subscribe to our telegram channel with , in fact, it monitors what is happening, including after our program, believe me, there is a lot of interesting things there, so we begin, my name is Kiril Kazakov , this is alena suroy, hello, in general, i must say that this is not the first time in our program that we have approached this complex and difficult topic, but somehow, the last time we talked about this, it was several months ago, it turned out that. Despite the pain of this problem, well, somehow everything is about it it was still not customary to speak loudly, some people support the rhetoric that the more we talk about something, there is a chance that we can somehow promote it there, while others, those whose opinion i share, they say that as soon as we stop discussing something, it becomes the norm, that is, we automatically perceive it. As a given of our life, and for us, it means there is nothing supernatural in what is happening. Oleg viktorovich, these are the changes that were adopted into the legislation, yes, quite tough and radical for the first time in a long time, but why do you think it took us so long to reach them . I think it took a long time, uh, maybe you have a different opinion, you will challenge it, have we taken everything into account, or could we have acted even harsher . Well the law. The draft was adopted in the first reading, so we will continue to discuss these issues; perhaps another good idea will appear, which we will legally formalize and introduce as changes and additions during the second reading, then this issue will be discussed and considered at a meeting of the Council Session republic, but let me first note that this law could not have been adopted in a timely manner, because uh. These problems with violation of the sexual integrity of children, with violence against minors, they have recently received the widest public outcry, pay attention, well, weeks it doesnt pass until people in our republic are identified who commit crimes against sexual integrity, is it because we have started talking about it more often, or there are more such crimes, thats the question such, well, some say that more modern. Means have appeared with the help of which these rights to these crimes can be identified, because i believe that there were such crimes before, we also discussed on the sidelines today what we had dealing with the phenomenon of chicotils advice. To the Death Penalty for crimes committed, that is , these crimes have always existed, but the question of the methodology for identifying them, and even today the question is stark, how to identify, how to prevent, how to prevent, well, look, probably, you will still be able to tell us more from statistics, you have presented it publicly, that if 10 years ago there were 28 such crimes identified, now there are 100 times more, by the way, show us the statistics from this year, they will appear now, it will be possible to look, we have it, yes , mm, someone says that this is a negative dynamic, i believe that it is positive in the sense that it means that we identify more such crimes, which means that less is hushed up, but it was absolutely true it is said that this is still a positive dynamic and this is connected with the fact that we stopped, lets say, being silent about it, we went to schools, we went to work collectives, we came to teachers, to parents, we began to voice this problem, we began to teach our children how to behave in on the internet, how to say and who to tell, that something bad happened to you, people went, it doesnt matter, the child came to the policeman, he told his mother at home , he said, he told the doctor, it doesnt matter who he told, but he said we have a National Mechanism that has been developed , and operates effectively on the territory of our country, and every state body, according to this National Mechanism, knows what to do when a child comes to him with his trouble, so when, well, let me correct you, of course, not 100 times, the number of crimes increased by 28 times, 28 times 2012 year, unfortunately, as it was correctly indicated, this is not an increase in crimes, not an increase in crime, it is an increase in the detection of these crimes, which means that this indicates that we are moving in the right direction, well , look, ill ask a question in parallel, but i understand perfectly well what the internet has given the opportunity, relatively speaking, to commit crimes is greater, well, because on social networks children are involved there, show me yourself, take a photo, do something stupid , thats a plus to everything, children understand, its great, they come to their parents, they say, to school psychologists, they say , but the internet has increased these statistics, or we simply convinced families that they need to disclose, lets say, the internet is, on the one hand , a benefit for our society, a benefit for modern civilization in general. Cannot exist without the internet, but unfortunately this is the negative environment that potential pedophiles, criminals who have the intention of, lets say, commit illegal acts against children, take advantage of, so they became closer, they simply became access, plus the internet is a kind of latent environment where the criminal feels as much as possible with impunity, he has access to any child who is registered on any social network, uh, here is our omission, there is a flaw somewhere, perhaps when parents or teachers, no matter, do not pay the childs attention to the rules of behavior, social networks, and safety rules on a social network, here is mr. Ivan mamaiko, our dear deputy, could not be present in the studio today, but gave a comment. Which i think will partially answer your question with statistics, i will ask the editors to launch this in the short 19 months of this year, 951 children suffered from criminal sexual harassment. Why is this happening . Well, in my opinion, there are both objective and subjective factors that influence this. Firstly, of course, in any society there are people with mental deviation from the norm. In this case, we are talking about such a sick preference as pedophilia and how these people exist, i repeat in any society, but at the same time, if we go back to the statistics, then according to the same Investigative Committee for the last 6 years out of 2,500 criminals who committed crimes against the sexual integrity of children, only 4 , there were about 80 people, 75 or 76 people, these were those who were diagnosed pedophilia, and moreover, well, with these statistics it is clear, as with any statistics there are nuances, i will dwell on this below, but there is another statistic only 34 of the affected children, minors, were not familiar with the criminals who committed in relation to their violent acts of a sexual nature, that is, 64 these were acquaintances, and sometimes, unfortunately, even close relatives of minor children, this suggests that in a society where traditional Family Foundations are strong in a society where traditional values, such things are perceived as an emergency and, accordingly, their percentage is much lower, which is why at one time those proposals, changes and additions were made to the basic law of our country, stating that traditional family values ​​are protected by the state. Lyudmila yansonovna, yes, let me quote our dialogue before the program, if possible, that so many of them are pedophiles, all the rest are bastards, well, excuse me, i quoted this literary word, but unfortunately i can call it Something Else i cant do these people, or rather i can, but not on the air. Yes, okay, look, i just asked for the floor, yes, to immediately make these clarifications, because a pedophile is a pedophile, this is a disorder of sexual preference, this is a disorder that is diagnosed by sexologists, yes, this is a medical term, uh, commit, sexual crimes against children are not. Obligatory persons who have these disorders of sexual preference, but this does not mean that they are just pulling them, we journalists so paint everyone with the same paint, but a pedophile that means pedophile, yes, yes, i think its wrong to use this, well, its incorrect when were already going deeper into the topic, yes, its incorrect to use this term in general, because there are criminals, for example, by substitution, yes, that is, i want this is the moment. And sexual arousal, i dont have a suitable object nearby, yes , but there is a child nearby, and statistics, uh, there is another option, for example, such violent criminals, but well, they just like to dominate everyone, yes , this is this, this is important, this is the main thing human need, control power, yes, yeah, and this person, he will also force a child to have sex, because this is a way for him to satisfy the ego, these are perverts, well, uh, well, lets say, unscrupulous people, from a point of view from the point of view of the child, it makes no difference who caused him harm, a pedophile or a person who is under the influence of a pedophile, you know, there is a little difference in the fact that coercion is used or not, yes, that is, force, threat, intimidation, yes , because often, well, thats a true pedophile. They are often so soft they roll you up there and just like that, its like this is a different type of trauma, although of course there are psychotraumas in any case, natalya vladimovna, maybe you can explain to us how to distinguish those same ones there, well, its not written here that hes a bastard definitely, next, thank you, ill continue, colleague, its very cool that we think alike, ill even read out, so as not to make a mistake, there are criteria for a mental disorder, if we are talking about such a type as a violation of sexual. Preferences , there are three criteria in whose attitude the disorder will naturally be diagnosed by a doctor. The first is when an individual is characterized by periodically occurring intense sexual desires and fantasies that include unusual objects or unusual actions. The second criterion is when the individual either acts in accordance with these drives or experiences distress if he. Does not perform these actions. And the third criterion is that these preferences must last for at least 6 months. These sexual disorders of sexual preference include pedophilia in including. That is, in addition to pedophilia , there are many other diagnoses here that also affect, look, i understand you, well, i ll just be a second, ill interrupt you right away so that you explain to me. That means im preparing for the program, i read that a lot of people in spain discussed the issue that one of the government ministers. Expressed that people, as she is called, little ones have the right to independently decide with whom to have sexual relations, and there the same thing was motivated that this is a deviation, this problem, and roughly speaking, it opens such a pandoras box, because, in fact, that is , if we allow the lgbt agenda there, we allow pedophilia, in the end, well, whatever you want, you can then say that at the age of 6. The age of consent and here the same medical term seems to allow, well, he s sick, no, im not finished, im not finished, it doesnt allow me to do it. A diagnosis does not mean that a crime can be committed. We have a law that states that consensual sexual relations can be join 16 plus. Well, we have an agreement, thats it. Secondly, if we are talking about pedophilia, then in relation to the criminal and the victim, the victim should preferably have a prepubertal period, that is, a conditionally period of up to 1112 years, the child should not be older than this period. If we are talking about crimes. This does not mean that there are pedophiles there, in our society it is accepted, since in relation to the sexual integrity of a minor, seductiveness is correspondence and sending photographs, lets say on social networks, thats right, girls, who is 15 years old, for example , and the boy with whom she corresponds is 16 years old, the question is, is this pedophilia, no, why, because. The day must be more than 16 years old, and the difference in his victim must be at least five years old, okay, lets then to understand the amendments that have been adopted, yes, we are talking about the fact that since pedophiles in belarus will be treated so indiscriminately, in journalistic terms, in journalistic terms, we are talking about those who are mentally about those who they will check, roughly speaking, they will check for diagnosis of everyone, who committed such a crime. As far as i know, today, yes, the court will establish an examination in relation to everyone who has committed a crime against the sexual integrity of minors. Raon nikolaevich, tell me, what will they do in relation to those who are not recognized as a pedophile, but at the same time committed such an outrage, suppose even this is what they say on a social network, they will serve their sentences on general terms, after serving a criminal sentence they will establish preventive supervision, and no more moreover, that is, persons who have not been diagnosed with pedophilia, they do not need special medical treatment, observations, yes, but they will be subject to strict control by the internal affairs bodies, no, i understand that such people, when going to prison, they will get theirs through slightly different laws, we all understand this perfectly well, but still, that is, if we are talking about what we have. Castration can be established in relation to pedophiles, chemical, then this is only in relation to those who are sick, in general how much this is an effective measure, yes, lets just express ourselves beautifully and correctly, hormonal therapy, we are journalistic , you know, it gets through faster, because if we Start Talking about the fact that they will undergo hormonal therapy, this is one story, but when you talk about the fact that they will be castrated even chemically, they will not, they will have. No, here only for the period of taking medications, it can be longterm, it is not established as it occurs in treatment, there is treatment, there is treatment, treatment is conditional depending on severity, various drugs that are generally antiandrogenic even today, if we are talking about the reasons. Pedophilia has not been established that they have a large release of testosterone, so anti, this hormonal androgen therapy , socalled, it will simply today, at the time of taking the drug, reduce desire, but not reduce the problem that is in the head, good guy, tell me please, but here i can call them all pedophiles for now, its just more convenient for me, yes, i wont differentiate in this case, physiological characteristics and such. Its just that among the people these are still pedophiles, here are fellow pedophiles, they most often come from what social strata, well, as we talked, when our question concerned the ministry of education, we talked about the beginning of the entrance campaign and then the beginning of the school year, we talked that yes there is a situation, i understand that schools, because there is the easiest access to children, either someone or doctors, statistics show, the social portrait of a pedophile, we will call him, a pedophile, a pedophile, yes, they have already decided, which means his social portrait looks like this well, again, this is not all , this is as a rule, well, there is such an average concept, the previously convicted person has a secondary specialized education, this is a person who is not married or divorced, has general working specialties , like this, that is, look, the story of people working as pedophiles in schools. This is an exception, this is an exception, this is an exception, these are not the rules for today, then i have a question, i understand perfectly well that a person is like when he is in school, this is really a precedent and really you know how planes crash and this is a big accident, and cars crash every day, and people die and no one notices, its the same here, i understand perfectly well, that this wave is being launched by journalists, this is a definite wave coming from the ministry of education, how do they, lets say, track these stories, because every year, as i understand it, there are such cases in educational institutions, and they were also identified in the year such cases when teachers, other Teaching Staff allowed, committed such a crime against minors, today , together with other government bodies, we have developed a whole range of measures to first try to stop the criminal at the entrance, who goes to work at school or other the institution intends, has some intentions or is already beginning to commit crimes, then, in the course of its work, somehow track people who, in the course of Work Together with their other colleagues, they show their activities, some, well, lets say, fedorovna, can i interrupt you right away, but this is a reputational blow to an educational institution, if it is revealed that such an employee was, in principle, allowed to work there, therefore, well it seems to me that not everyone will be eager to say that we have such a comrade, lets go , Law Enforcement officers , check him, involve him, if we talk, it may be a blow to the image, dont talk, maybe for a long time chances are its easy they will ask you not to work here anymore, and no matter how there is no guarantee that this person will not go there, there will be no revenge yards next to this same school or this kindergarten there, i want to say that today, and the heads of the educational institution, such cases have been reported when they tried to hide the situation somehow. Way, lets say, discrediting an educational institution, but in my opinion, today everyone already understands that everything that happens in relation to children, including educational institutions, is a crime, here to hide, as they say, to themselves, well, not what is dearer to themselves, this is generally a terrible crime, they will bear even greater responsibility for the fact that not only moral, we are talking about the fact that we gave an example that in almost every case, when you. On crimes against a minor, there was someone who noticed, heard, saw, guessed, assumed, but did not say, one of the adults, maybe in those amendments that we are talking about, we did not take into account the responsibility of those people who obviously knew, but did not say, well, i can to say that today a National Mechanism for providing assistance to minors was announced, which provides for a clear procedure for the actions of each subject. Prevention, starting from an educational institution, ending with the ministry of education, starting from a health care institution, ending with the ministry of health, and it is clearly stated that if such facts are identified, the procedure for action of a specific official, be it a teacher, a school director, or it will be the treating doctor and chief physician, what how this information is received by Law Enforcement agencies, and, as was correctly noted today, by todays leaders of government organizations. Education, health care, probably will not risk taking responsibility for concealing such a fact, because they perfectly understand the consequences that may subsequently occur for them, well , first of all, of course, this is a moral consequence, that is, he can live with this information , in defense of these words, i can say that last year , according to statistics, there were probably 90 crimes it was revealed by teachers and doctors, according to the information of these government institutions, the case was initiated on the 9th of roman nikolaevich, but i spoke more, you know, not even about there, not teachers, not doctors, but about ordinary people who notice some oddities, for example, in behavior there are neighbor children, for example, yes, they see something, hear something, they assume, look , ill add a little alena, look, because most often its not in the family that they notice how teachers do things, but teachers notice that in there is violence in the family, yes, that is, it turns out that we are not trying in any way. Now you put all the labels there on the conditional ministry of health or the ministry of education, its just that the situation is that they meet with children more often, because most often the doctor can see some injuries on the girl, or the teacher, the class teacher can find out, thats what they are, they can remain silent, so that, for example , they do not cause any damage to the family, because there is a father, he really loves his mother, he loves the children, well, it turns out , he relates, unfortunately, such facts do occur, but already less and less often. Than it was before, recently there was a story on television where the mother of a teenager, lets just say, the teenager learned from a friend about the atrocities that were committed by her eyes, the girl there for some. Reason was afraid to tell her mother or she didnt have it turned out that the information reached the teacher and the teacher sounded the alarm, reported, that is, in the family itself, of course, this is somehow either deliberately hidden, because the mother is afraid of peepholes, or this happens due to mistrust, that is, as a rule, this is in most dysfunctional families when a girl living with ochim, for some reason my mother believes ochim more than her own daughter. By the way, this gender issue, natalya vladimirovna, can you explain to us and when we talk about pedophilia, yes, a picture is immediately drawn, this is an adult man and a little girl, we heard, yes, what is it, 35 years old, not married, i dont know, its a girl, but maybe there are cases when we are talking about an adult woman, for example, and a little boy, or this is not is divided, or is it increasingly common for men if to talk about statistics today, then 90 or more. These are men, the identified statistics we have only facts and the ability to operate only with facts, these are men, and these are not only girls, here of course, of course, this is a disorder that and heterosexual and bi and homo, that is, in principle there is no such direct difference, this is a girl, this is a boy , this should be a child, and the child is prepubescent, he is not yet different from each other, they are essentially the same, i will correct, 99 , not 90, well, i, yes, always, men, i became 90, please tell me, children, when they go through a similar story, to what extent can they, in principle , return to normal life, im already saying this so carefully, yes, because i understand perfectly well that when something happens in a family a similar situation, and the girl, suppose, does not tell anyone and the teacher reveals it. After the whole situation went to the police, to the prosecutors office, to the court, then how will the child recover at all, is this possible . Some kind of rehabilitation measures are definitely needed, because look, 40 of cases, yes, pass without symptoms, that is, the child does not outwardly show signs of any mental illhealth, and then there are another 30 with few symptoms, right . And it seems to us that everything seems to be fine with the child, maybe because most often this happens in dysfunctional families, where children, well , when strangers start working and talking there, outwardly you may not notice any serious changes , but the fact is that this is a trauma that follows a person for the rest of his life, you know, if you dont work with it, because the child can now, pretend that nothing happened, some protective mechanisms are activated , it happens to an adult when there is a stressful situation, he just moves on, it goes on, it goes into family life, this goes into relationships with parents, this haunts your whole life, you see, ill tell you more that there are even examples when boys who have suffered from crimes subsequently become rapists themselves, this is understandable, if we are talking now. About what is getting tougher punishment for criminals, yes, in this law, or in some laws that can be considered further, is it possible, for example, legal, mandatory rehabilitation, because if it is necessary, we certainly, in addition to punishing, must help in some way, are there any mechanisms, or are there thoughts about including some mechanisms to help these affected children. Those children who have been subjected to violence must go through a mandatory procedure of psychological rehabilitation, what colleagues say, thats why children then carry psychological trauma throughout their entire lives, having already matured, many do not even get married, they are afraid of this, so of course, at the legislative level it is necessary to make an appropriate proposal in order to create conditions for such rehabilitation, but im talking about friend now, we need to strengthen. Responsibility for committing these crimes, well, a proposal has been made for 3 years, and preventive supervision, but in my opinion this is not enough, what does 3 years mean, if a person is inclined, if he is sick, then 3 years these 3 years are passing quickly, you understand, you know, im actually a european problem , by the way, also in europe, how many of these pedophile cases are there in the United States of america, this is a global problem, i may be, again, im probably already about a year ago i said that i am really a supporter of the worlds. Being tough , very tough, i understand perfectly well that somewhere with our humanity we are trying to catch up, to talk about the fact that there are people who are sick, perhaps , somehow, if we are talking about castration, this does not mean that he will be castrated, now look, when a person is sick and he understands that he is being treated, he probably understands that he is being treated, and when a person commits this crime he understands that he will not, relatively speaking, be subject to castration and so it is, when a person understands what awaits him, thats when it will be waiting for him, well, one hundred percent castration of everyone. And the word pedophile will be attached to everyone, and not just to those who are sick, isolated from society so that normal parents, here i have i fully support, we must be sure that we will protect both our and other peoples children from these maniacs of mental disorder of understanding are not identical, in no way, you know, in fact, isolation. These are the very persons to whom these compulsory measures of a medical nature are applied, they are not exempt from criminal liability, im not talking about that, im talking about the fact that look, we recognized as pedophiles only those who are sick, but they they are not exempt from any law due to this. Kiril wants this label, this brand, this was to everyone who commits, and so that 100 receive, thats how you say , hormonal changes or chemical castration, everything, but in order for, there is no humanity here, in order for us to make some decisions, everything i still think that we must understand the concepts in the nature of what is happening, because its not that you think that the fact that we dont hang it, it seems to justify, yes, relieves from responsibility those people who really suffer from this, i will once again return to the fact that people who are with this article they end up in a correctional facility, they wont have a good time there, and we may not talk about it officially, but we understand perfectly well how the penitentiary system works inside and how fun these people will have there, i understand perfectly well, but still, it seems to me , that when you understand when we. Most people understand that these are everyone who will somehow, well, do some kind of well, actions of a sexual nature , lets call them that against children, but this is not so completely, we only took this one, no one is talking about a big tightening, especially since chemical castration is only for you while they are giving you medicine, so in this case we have it. It is being tightened, well, by a small percentage, thats how it is, well, this is the first step, i hope, depending on whether the medical diagnosis is confirmed or not, the person has committed a crime, accordingly he should answer, the question is should the punishment, the degree of responsibility vary . That is, if it was done by a sick person, or if it was done by a person is fully aware, especially since he does it, ill come back again, bastard, look, it seems to me that youve confused the concept a little , that is, well, persons declared insane, lets assume, yes, that is, due to mental illness, but this is quite a unit, well , that is, thats all, those pedophiles, 74. Who we are talking about are all persons who are recognized as capable, they are sane, but they have a disorder , so i say again, i am preparing for the program, i talked to a lot of people and asked one question, how do they understand, and tougher punishment in parliament, how they understand the word castration, and how they understand the word pedophile, everyone roughly understands , its the same, a person who was detained for some kind of indecent acts against children will. Because he is a pedophile, thats how he understands our society, and we talk about the fact that we have so many different stories , i say again, i can express my personal opinion, and it seems to me that people who, in the clear mind and memory, commit crimes against a child, they should be punished where more punishment, the word castration, it seems to me, is very suitable for them, you know, i can speak out about this , look, if you already do, absolutely harsh punishment for this type of crime, then think about whether this commission will entail more serious crimes, in particular murder, in order to hide ones involvement in the commission of a crime about well, look, you can argue in this story , that is, we have the Death Penalty in our country, yes, it hasnt increased the number of crimes, after all, its not that big, not this way many people commit such terrible crimes for which they are punishable, or we dont know a lot of things , or they hide very well, or, because some crimes last for decades, then they come to light, well, for example, can we give some example or at least history, as teachers, indeed, expose similar crimes, we even had them in the past in the past. Stories when children come to the school psychologist, and during the conversation it turns out that, well, they dont come directly, but in many cases children, taking the opportunity, say, when we are talking about something that happens in the family, they can talk not about themselves personally, about their friend, acquaintance, their girlfriend, who somewhere told that an adult is performing such actions on her , so such cases happen quite often this year, but look, and we are talking about the fact that most often, well, we are talking about crimes against young children, because if we are talking about teenagers, then they are still like. Then they are more aware of what is happening and understand that at this makes a moment with them there. If we are talking about young children, the question is often raised that, well, some basics of Sex Education, i dont know, theres some kind of theory, it should be included in educational institutions, if not taught, then at least voiced, somehow, from the point of view of your department, such work is being carried out, from what age , perhaps, small children do not always understand, yes, what is happening now, they perceive it as, i dont know, like some kind of game, or, in principle, like normality, i want to say that children of course, they do not perceive this as a game, they begin to be wary of this when an adult begins to be interested in, say, parts of the body that belong to the socalled swimsuit area, that is, of course, this causes a certain tension in a child, but the child may not be aware of it. That this is not normal, you can talk about this topic with children , we prefer, as teachers, for parents to talk about this, and we try at all types of our events with parents to lead to the fact that please tell your for a child, what is a swimsuit area where you shouldnt go with a stranger, but its not always like parents have time for this, so the issue of telling children about what adults should not. Attitude towards children, well, in fact, but if we touched on the issue of interaction between educational institutions and parents, you very subtly noticed that there is not always time, in principle, such relationships are not always built when the parent does not ask at best case there is a routine question, how are you and the answer is, everything is fine, there remains satisfied, eat mine there, brush your teeth, go to bed, and when he is really capable i dont know there is any reaction to determine that something is wrong with the child. Valentina valentinovna, its clear that parents are different, we wont go into education here now, but maybe you can suggest a few points that even the busiest parent should be wary of. Look, i listened to my colleagues, and the first thing that catches your eye is this a very simple physical examination, because often these are bruises on a child, suddenly, he is not just downhill. Fell, and bruises in certain parts of the body, not on the knees, not bruises on the knees, yes, it could be discharge of a certain type and underwear, contaminated with all sorts of external signs that make it clear that something happened that was far from very good, and the next point, because there is a difference, we say, there are small children, preschool age, Primary School age and teenagers, yes, these are different children after all, if a teenager can directly say, mom, this happened to me. And its great if the mother reacts right away, but sometimes there is a mother who will say, you came up with it, you came up with it, my friend there couldnt do this, or the coach, theres someone else with such paradoxical things that we often dont understand, look, but the question is this , ill just return to you now , a second, there is a crime, investigators usually talk about it, as if turning a blind eye, when such actions are committed against children under one year old, how often are they . Still fixed, very small the percentage of these crimes, after all, the bulk, if you take the age indicator, its from six to 10 years old, in this range, in this range, from zero to two, the region , but now ill come back, this age is like, when for example, last year i know of a case in minsk , when they actually detained a person who abused a little one, but he cant tell, that is, he cant understand whats going on, regarding a small child who doesnt speak at all, well, here its only physical things you can see, indeed, that a mother cannot take care of her child. She serves him, bathes him, cant you see this, these are macerations, abrasions, and changes in the childs behavior, this is painful, please tell me, most often the people who engage in such crimes are normal . And yes and no, a lot of things were said about health and illness, yes, there is indeed a worthwhile diagnosis, but there are people who are social in essence, and they commit crimes with the aim of selfaffirmation, victory over the powerful, feel the power. Freedom of action, then a weak being is chosen, i wont fight in a strong one, and thus i feel good and comfortable, cozy, i did a good job on my psyche, theres probably alcohol to remind me that sometimes alcohol removes the barrier, which becomes, well, thats me i cant imagine what barrier needs to be removed in order to do this to a person who has just been born, we are talking about babies, we also mentioned here above , yes, crimes associated with, for example, on social networks. Extortion, extortion, and photographs of some intimate parts of the body and other things, it is clear that the degree of, say, damage, at least physical, is still different, the photo is one thing, yes, another thing is when physical, physical contact occurred, you they spoke to the whole world , this is fear, but to speak to the whole world is even worse, now this information is hidden, so as not to succumb to consent, insults, humiliation of honor and dignity, sometimes. It is tolerated, lived through, accepted, but the personality will still grow up with problems at the exit, so we somehow didnt touch on here moral aspect, because its one thing when children are small, another thing, as we say, when puberty begins, the same girls contact them through a social network and offer to share intimate photographs, but where does the family look, how she is raising this daughter of hers, this little girl of hers, that she begins to share these intimate photographs, i agree and disagree with you, because very often it happens that if you were raped, its your fault that she put on a short skirt , unfortunately, unfortunately, so they say, but in many respects i agree that somewhere the family is not looking, is it the familys fault here or who is it . No, look, its not just about the family, these, uh, i just came across several cases, talked to several children, about 810 years old, yes, who sent photos. Videos of intimate content of this criminal on the internet, there is a cunning story there, they uh manipulate children, you see, this is not promiscuity, there is no need to talk about children as evil, uh, this is not promiscuity, this is the victimization of a child, which is inherent in his age, yes, this inherent ability to be a victim, yes, the tendency to be a victim, these internet criminals, they manipulate the child very cunningly. A friend pretends, oh, how interesting it is to talk, mom, go, i found a friend here, ill talk , it starts with a neutral, then the girl, as if a girl speaks, and ill tell your mom that you were scared by swearing, the girl says, im okay i didnt, that is, its catchy, they blackmail me with anything, yeah, blackmail starts with Something Like this little thing, ill Say Something bad, right . The child is afraid, fulfills the first demand of the criminal, well, lets say, a more simplified photo, yes, and then progressively, yes, because now the criminal already has photos with which he blackmails, and goes and goes, and goes and goes videos and they go, so ill return to the topic of our first part, when alcohol removes the conditional barrier, yes, when we understand that someone in the family is nearby and can be taken advantage of, this is what a normal person does, who probably has a strategy worked out, or again its a deviation that when we talk about alcohol, most often its not a strategy, but the effect of alcohol, alcohol removes , well, lets say, the brakes, yes, it removes the brakes, that is, in normal life a person behaves guided by various different motives, yes and there are motives that direct him to some kind of action, yes, but there are the same motives that slow him down and say dont do this, but you can find out some stories on a polygraph, for example, find out some questions to a person , we, well, for example, people from special Services Pass through there, for example, a polygraph, here it is somehow possible when applying for a job, for example , for teachers or doctors, how or this is utter nonsense, look, with the polygraph a little, such is the story, we have a forensic psychophysiologist. Using a polygraph, which we conduct exclusively in cases of sexual crimes, because there is a very clear story here one says one thing, the other says another. Yes, someone is definitely lying and there is a specific version uttered by a child, which is checked and can be verified, lets say, with strong tests, uh, when you talk about hiring, yes, this is such a screening, uh, with uh, in this, in this, in this kind of testing, it is impossible to ask questions about, uh, what a person thinks, what he likes, what he is there, this you need to immerse yourself too much in the specific, in principle, in principle, the polygraph is not a Research Tool ; it can show whether a person is worried or not worried at the moment, but the polygraph can only check actions that a person has already performed, but a person , suppose he goes to get a job at school, he likes children, but he has never done anything in relation to children, not never, but then once and do it, then once and do it, but i have a question for our Law Enforcement officers. You are talking, i think, with these nonpeople who commit such crimes, do they justify themselves somehow, somehow, how do they explain their motivation, if at all . Well, a number of, lets say, criminals who committed a crime of the specified category against children, after the fact, when they are sitting in prison, yes we conducted, and lets say, a social survey of these individuals, what is it like to commit such a crime and when a person , roughly speaking, decided for himself that he needed it, and so the trigger for himself, in any case, is voiced by the criminals themselves , he says that i lived a normal life, was a normal person, everything was fine with me , i had never experienced any such attractions, well, here i looked on the internet, accordingly, somewhere he came across pornographic images with children, some then how is he in certain situations or who showed him or he bought it somewhere for a fee, thats all, he liked it, he began to watch it, but at some point in his life he realized that he wanted to try, he needed to realize his fantasies in practice, and he went, viewing child porn is not prohibited. Today, viewing child pornography is not prohibited, but it should be noted that on the territory , well, lets say, conditionally on the territory of the belarusian internet, it is simply impossible to watch materials of such content, they simply do not exist, our news agency and so on, we we are taking all measures to prohibit this content as usual. No, again it is necessary to note that when the material gets onto the internet, this is already dissemination, and this is already criminal liability, and here we are already working with our operational investigative methods and are already going to the criminal, it is clear what they say when they find themselves already behind bars, rman nikolaevich, what did they hear, what did they hear, what did you hear, what they say, well , they all have roughly the same version, but indeed, they had no thoughts before, well then suddenly i saw something somewhere. I decided to try it, i liked it, i couldnt stop, heres roughly their whole fate, the story of how it all happens , oleg viktorich, maybe we should prohibit it at the legal level then, but if there is a preventive ban on this child pornography, it is clear that it is inaccessible , but there are perhaps ways to seriously find them, maybe somehow deepen this story, and how can we ban something that we dont have, it exists, its just not easy to find, it really exists, maybe through. He is present, unfortunately, and this information is contained there, but on a paid basis, that is, roughly speaking, if i look, i m not breaking the law, it doesnt matter what, even through, so maybe its already worn off, but here it will pass, according to the law transition of quantitative changes into qualitative ones, a person first looks, he gets excited, and then somewhere this happens to him that he said he couldnt resist. Yes, i dont believe them, what they tell you, you see, they now find themselves in a situation in prison, they will say anything, invent anything, that i think that they have this hidden program, somewhere initially there is a tendency towards this, in conditions when there is the internet, when there is an opportunity to watch these shameless videos, this serves as triggers, they then commit, well, rudely speaking, this did not exist before, because it was not so accessible, now it is so accessible , in soviet times we read that some went there spying on minors , they caught them on the beaches, these maniacs were hanging around the bathhouses, near kindergartens , near kindergartens committed various shameful acts there, but i would also like to note that we still need to return to morality , so we are talking, so i also disagree with you that there is a short skirt, and so on, what are we talking about, to return, about returning to our traditional belarusian values, and they are based on christian morality, in christian reality there are no short skirts, no, there is nothing like that, look, here are our grandmothers, greatgrandmothers, they did not behave this way and naturally they dont became victims, lets not talk about the fact that in the old days there was no rape and there was no pedophilia, i think that everything was, we are not animals and we want to interact now in ours, here is the history, so i will return to spain, yes , there is a concept, there is a certain concept of cognitive war, yes, when your mental values ​​are replaced, and this comes to us, why, for example, it seems that this is normal, you looked and it seems to you that this is normal, yes, because you think that there is pedophilia in europe. Someone said it, they declared it, they looked at how society reacted, then in one country they allowed it once, twice, and after 10 years you are already looking at it in public literature, in public. Yes, today active work is underway; on the initiative of the prosecutor generals office, the ministry of internal affairs has developed a draft law on amending codes of administrative responsibility. First of all, three articles are introduced, this is a ban on lgbt propaganda, gender reassignment pedophilia, and subsequently, uh, when the mechanism itself has already been developed, we still, well try to test at the level of legislation on administrative liability exactly how much it will work. A ban on propaganda, and what is meant by the word propaganda, propaganda is any communication to society on the internet in public speeches, in publications, namely the imposition of this licentious idea of ​​lgbt, licentious idea, look, im now, look, just again , who are the judges, because lolita nabokovova is clear propaganda, but this is classic material that, well, people they read, so that they simply dont, yes, absolutely right, they will take into account , lets say, the spheres of legal relations that relate to art, to religion, because in any case, if, for example, the issue of propaganda of chal free is considered, which is in europe now is gaining momentum very massively, then in our lets say traditional society, again, questions of religion, but this is monasticism, where, in principle, the birth of children, it does not imply as such, but this is not in the understanding in the form in which it comes to us stuck. Look, today they first ask for equal conditions for themselves, then they will consider themselves somehow special, they will need to be given some special benefits and privileges in the state, they are imposing their idea, their own, which is why we are talking about protecting our traditional values ​​and the need to say that everything that is happening, everything that we criticize today is abnormal, it is an abomination, we must say, regardless of whether the person who committed the crime committed it, we say a lot, i think in this program from those who commit crimes, but little attention was paid to those who become victims of these crimes, and yes, they touched a little on the fact that rehabilitation is needed, but what kind of rehabilitation does it seem to me, not only to the children who became victims, but also to their parents, unless, of course, we are talking about those cases when mothers themselves indulge, mothers indulge or mothers who do not respond to calls, and there are many calls, heres a simple appeal, mom, this happened to me, but before a change in the childs behavior, sometimes even small children demonstrate such knowledge of sex and sexuality, which is unusual for their age, the question is where, the question is where, these things happened, because there are some things against sexual integrity, these are direct things, but you can also involve the child in watching films of a certain content, yes, watch sexual intercourse that occurs, this is also violence, discussing topics with a small child, then it turns out sincerely, or the child is in play, takes dolls, reproduces certain actions, where does the child get such knowledge, and suddenly insight something happened from above, no, and definitely parents should respond to these calls, yes, we are talking about those parents who are adequate, we will talk about them and about rehabilitation and children. And parents need to be told, and programs need to be created for this, and the child should be involved with a child psychologist, and adult parents should also be involved in psychological services, so that this situation at least needs to be accepted. How it happened, how to work with it, i have a question, here we are, we are talking, and we keep talking about the program, ban, ban, ban, great we know that at the age of 15 its impossible to ban anything, you say its impossible, theyll make it there , relatively speaking, so that everything is the other way around , here its the same thing, yes, this control, which also includes part of the bans, thats how it is convince or force yourself or teach yourself to prohibit correctly, you know, in the sense in which we are accepted to say, i forbid, it doesnt work, there are different kinds of prohibitions, there are ordinary, friendly, decent conversations with a child explaining the problem, this is not perceived as edification, yes, oh, you go into the dark forest, this will happen there, it doesnt work , yes, when its a calm conversation, when Sex Education speaks, an explanation of what can happen, what needs to be avoided for what reasons, it works, but stay at home, nowhere dont go, it doesnt work. That the state should introduce it definitely, its useless for the family, well , other mechanisms are needed psychologically and i say that, after all, initially the family forms knowledge, relationships and prepares for the consequences if they may happen, society of course its also not worth what to tell children for. This, for this we must also prepare parents on how to tell children , what age to tell them, absolutely true, that is, not all parents are literate in this matter, for many this topic is taboo, shameful, we wont talk about it, somehow he himself will find out later, yes, he will grow up, he will figure it out, yes, but at the same time, children still study the world, including their body, and so on and so forth, and what happens this is basically pretty good, in class it happens, so how can we catch this moment, not miss what i was talking about, maybe some courses, maybe some electives for children or for parents, i want to say that there is both of these today, and thats enough, we we are talking to parents now about the fact that there is such a danger , and we are slowly starting to lead children to this, talking about what changes in their body may occur and so on, that is, a lot of things are being done, a lot of things are being done, but it is important, so that this. Changes and above all, we are here a lot we are talking about who becomes victims and who becomes criminals, but it seems to me that we need to be more attentive to those others, because it is in our power to prevent those crimes that can be committed for different motives, but nevertheless, this does not negate their abomination and inadmissibility, but i would just like to say that perhaps our bans really should be the same, perhaps even stricter, this is radical. But when you start to think about what a pervert can do as an object it turns out to be your child, its a disaster. Live panorama in the studio elena nasacheva, hello, our cooperation with the regions of russia and distant arcs, what opportunities direct contacts open up, the president today held negotiations with the head of the republic of mordovia, and also discussed issues of bilateral interaction with the minister of Foreign Affairs of Equatorial Guinea. The middle east is in a state like a powder keg