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The criminals, because the roof is leaking in the department. The purchasing power of latvians decreases instead of to solve its internal problems, the latvian government follows the lead of nato and deploys troops to the belarusian border. At the same time, he declares his readiness to use weapons of the latvian belarusian border. Long before that, they had declared to the Latvian Ministry of defense that everyone would serve. So and why belarus did not give such a reason to tense up. We have the main front. The battle for the harvest in the fields is hot now. Did you turn to us with tanks or is it Something Else . Hello identification mark of the wehrmacht of the German Armed Forces and its various units during the years of the Second World War latvian army nato army apparently, it is the successor of both symbols and ideology, and you should not be surprised. I already talked about the president in one of my programs, now about the expresident. Latvian angels was born in latvia in 1955, his jewish father was evacuated from latvia during the war, but the rest of the president s relatives died during the holocaust , levicas mother was latvian and she successfully survived the german occupation, but with the advent of soviet visual troops in germany, then she returned to her homeland introduced levitz to her father but i did not go to germany little nazi egils, studied at a school supervised by hawks. Daugava its creators the soldiers of the ss unit are currently aware of 135 such organizations around the world from here, the actual administrative criminal cases for the celebration of victory day , the new president edgars. Pinkevich, not a pronounced nazi, but openly gay. So with the president s of latvia somehow unlucky. I would say damned country to understand what is really happening in the country now a neighbor invited a refugee from latvia to the studio. Roman himself participated in the elections from his party all last autumn and recorded falsifications. And as they say, no, the body is not a matter, so roman decided to run anyway where he would not be persecuted for political reasons roman hello, in october last year you had to flee from latvia to belarus, tell us what happened, what made you, lets say, change your homeland to a neighboring state, firstly, my rhetoric was completely incompatible with politics, and the current one, which is now in latvia anyway. I am being elected at 14 7 in latvia last year. I understood that i would not pass, since my rhetoric, again, was contrary to the interest of the political elite, and i wrote down many conversations, lets say so , yes, well, i tried, at least if i had such an opportunity, and in principle, i there were so many compromising evidence that, well, i think that they just removed me, so i accordingly made such a decision to leave latin. If we talk about compromising evidence is it possible to voice something, but, for example, during the elections leading one of such leading parties in the opposition, well, its clear that they dont have such opportunities as the main party of the unification has clearly veins, by the way, the party of the unification of our Prime Minister, so to speak , but the members of his party, for example, believed passed due to the fact that there was such an agreement with people that the machine is gaining rides, which means that alcoholics are given a bottle of vodka and a command is given accordingly. For whom to vote the old scheme is nothing new absolutely not. I mean, its from the nineties. Khasimovs elections were rigged. Yes, because there is still such a situation when, let s say, the party of our Prime Minister in two polling stations, well, it scored more than 90 . This is generally an interesting story, when suddenly a fire alarm is announced somewhere for an hour, and then the results leave these areas. These are the high voices chosen. Profitable yes falsification open. After that, weed out selects the president to replace the president , the president came to the nazi, gay, somehow here in latvia it was not lucky. Why is it lucky for them . Very obedient such henchmen who unquestioningly. Well, lets just say that they carry out all orders from above from above. We have brussels above brussels of the usa, of course, or there, for example, Great Britain is the same and therefore for them it is quite, everything, natural and normal. This is a colony. This is not a sovereign country. Its simple. Well, how they laugh at us, there is some fiftyseventh there, i dont know 60 or maybe the hundredth state of the usa, the second thing that i want to say is already being pumped up in the media. I see in poland yes especially it is strong in lithuania also, when they already come out and speak, they are afraid of polite people, and therefore we need to close the borders. Here i often show in my blogs that it is calm here. Its good here. It is purely beautiful here and not in the way we are told to study even cheerful belarusian ones. Look where you can grow your business. Yes, and i just show that there are these opportunities here and many people really want to leave. They have money, why not if the republic of latvia does not want money to be invested in them, so well, its more profitable for us then to take such of these people. Let them invest in the republic of belarus let them develop their families here. Business. It is very difficult for us in europe to conduct it. Yes, you can earn something, but you must constantly think about how to keep this business and money in the first place. Yes , because we have such taxation and they tell us that it is generally impossible to build anything here. But when i heard, lets say, doing business here, well, some such principles, as by law and so on. Everything related to taxes and compared with europe, that is, its actually easier to do business here, i dont believe it. I believe. I can compare and i have something to compare, you know . Im from there after all. Yes, its no secret to anyone how much we earn there, what utilities we have and the salary ends in 2 weeks. And for another 2 weeks you have to live somehow, that is, we paid everything and really, in fact, the majority. I do not speak for all the majority. There is simply no money for the existence of the next two weeks. That is you, as a person who came from there, in reality says that it is difficult to live there, there is not enough money. Not that difficult. There you really need to survive and think how to survive. For example, if you walk along the central streets of the city of riga, all the shops are closed, there are no men in the premises. They are on the payroll of germany Great Britain ireland personally, i have a question for the authorities. Latvia you militarization. Why is it necessary to once again elementary shift the focus from internal problematic invented Security Problems . The population is easier it does not ask to manage, but asks to be protected, that you are creating this issue. I asked a latvian journalist and politician an expert on the baltic countries, latvian politicians, shifting emphasis, latvian politicians, uh, are engaged in substituting the substitution of the real for the mythological, the substitution of the essential for the insignificant, and what makes the most successful functionaries in the latvian political market, the most effective successful latvian politicians. These are people who do not care deeply about the paws of a quarry, you can do it having agreed with the backstage, nato functionaries overestimated the cost of work to expand the landfill to supply feeding. Uh, on these semistate semidirect contracts, thats why they do it, and people do exactly that, thats why there is competition in this niche, because here you can earn money and decide Career Prospects and political capital. Uh, some problems where you cant steal and climb. Well, for this, you really, probably, need to love not bread positions, where its impossible, but steal where its difficult quickly utter some kind of not fighting the russian threat. And on this, and go further higher such positions. They just dont want to do it. It is, probably, to show. The fact that political culture is the environment that gives birth to these political functionaries. She is ill in latvia because we cannot see. Uh, really patriotic minded politicians we see, or managers in general. Well, either repulsed nationalists, who, for their part, also dont really think about the future of the country, but they want to make it out of it a graphic museum on a mononic reservation and but these probably want to drag the situation into a spark war. Just crazy people. It became known that the Prime Ministers of the latvian and estonian elites agreed on a date for withdrawing from the brel energy system, which is unified with belarus and russia, according to the signed declaration , disconnection from the energy ring and connection to networks to Continental Europe will occur no later than february 2025. That being said, i agree with the experts. This step is caused not by economic, but by political and ideological considerations. After all, the price of electricity in the baltic countries. In this case, it will increase even more, which will hit the economies of the three republics, which are already in a serious crisis. But apart from the economic suicide that has dragged on in time , latvia is ready to sacrifice its own people in the name of nato whether its the people who live in this country or its just the whims of their socalled nazi president s. Gays who are ready to give up their country for the sake of a new eu ideology or is it different . And i was with you Ksenia Lebedeva see you in the next program. Belarus shmatteyam prostrate can otshukat, throwing here is a ball in the lake for a nonrandom. Name the wok of god, called the lake, it was tearing off with its own rips and kena is guessing the wolf in maya lake the shape of the correct circle, i dont change for a long time, ill eat in the distance, that the wok sotsit behind the right of people from heaven and shmat their such choral luster in belarus after meeting with alexandra grigorievich, a new dynamic in relations began. Were already out for 2 billion rubles. By trade. When i got up and finished, god himself ordered to actively start communicating again for us now is the number one issue. Hello Oleg Vladimirovich. Thank you, first of all , for the warm welcome of belarusians. In penza, they are greeted very warmly. We know that you are a fairly frequent guest in our country and welcome. I think it is also always very warm, especially when it comes to meetings with our president , as for example in march last year. Here. Tell us how such a meeting was generally productive meeting with Alexander Grigoryevich. I betrayed one of the dynamics of the development of our relations between the penza region and a number of regions of the republic of belarus , i want to remind you that we have an agreement concluded with five subjects of the republic after a meeting with alexandra grigorievich, and a new dynamics of relations has begun. We agreed that we will cooperate in the economic sphere in the field of scientific and Technical Cooperation in agriculture in the cooperation of our industrial e, production enterprises, in principle, the road map that we also wrote the last agreement with the brest region, but we just had it, uh, signed during a visit to the republic of belarus. I think that we are very dynamic, uh, we began to build relations with the brest region, but we met not only in march last year. Just recently, during events in alexandria, we also saw alexandra grigorievich. We even talked a little and hmm, i want to say that we have a lot of topics for cooperation, but lets start, of course, with the mogilev litmash penza area is currently engaged in the replacement or second equipment and a little bit quite a lot. We need to replace 52 elevators and we are doing it quite actively. Uh, since, uh, elevators are changing the whole country now, not only the penza region, therefore, the capacities of penza e, industrial ones are far from always enough. Enterprises, well, in general, we have already established traditional cooperation since the age of 2122 with mogilevlistmash, and in the twentyfirst year we bought and installed 54 elevators, and last year 69 and i think that this year we will also lets continue cooperation and, for example, if we take half a year of this year, uh, then we have already reached two billion rubles in terms of goods turnover, while 1 billion is exports and practically. You see, our exports are almost parity with the republic. That is, this just speaks of a Great Potential for mutually beneficial cooperation, but i think that i brought a lot of agreements in the form of regions. The tenth anniversary was just recently in ufa, as far as it was as a result. Ah forum regions. He is always very productive, in principle, it has already been the tenth forum, that is, in fact, the jubilee and even in a pandemic. I want to remind you that the forum was held, no one ever refused it remotely passed and worked remote platforms. Well, often, when the pandemic ended, god himself ordered to start communicating actively again, within the framework of the forum, we signed a road map e between the government of the penza region and the government of the republic of belarus e, quite detailed, where all areas of our cooperation in all five authorities of the republic of belarus are enough detailed. This is the perspective of 2325 ​​years. And on this roadmap. We will work in the near future, but believe me, work. We have something to do with this, first of all, the deepening of cooperation. I think that from just some trade exchanges. We must move on to more indepth cooperation. And especially us now attractively and interestingly. This is agriculture, we buy tractor equipment from you, we buy combine harvesters from you. Here we buy seed material from you. Uh, since you have a fairly developed selection in the republic, so here very interesting area of ​​cooperation. And when we met with alexandra grigorievich. We were just discussing the prospect that the republic has a good start in terms of the production of its harvesting equipment. You probably know , yes, that the penza region is one of the regions that produces sugar beet and there are three sugar factories, so we have 58,000 hectares of sugar beet. Naturally. We are very interested in having modern agricultural machinery, and it is in basically all well, not basically, but all of todays foreign production. Therefore, i hope that this is our project together with belarus on beet harvesting equipment. He will move well. I told Alexander Grigoryevich that the penza region is ready to take it from belarus to test it in our conditions. Well, and, accordingly , there is, in principle, great interest in further uh buying, so i see quite interesting prospects for not only trade, yes, but precisely for uh, industrial cooperation and agrarian copy of the penza region , we still have an area industrial agrarian and agrarian sector we have if we take agriculture and agricultural processing, this is no less, but about 16 of the gross regional product. This is a very serious volume. Therefore, in this area we think that we will cooperate very well and fruitfully with the republic in the two fraternal peoples and tasks. And now the general one is the emphasis on import substitution. How acute is this issue for the penza region and how belarusians here can help you. Well, you know, import substitution hmm well, lets just say, when in 200 to 22 a special military operation began and certain very strong ones were introduced against the Russian Federation. By the way, sanctions are also applied in belarus. In principle, in relation to our country they were introduced from the fourteenth year, and in relation to yours, in fact, from the twentieth , somehow very quickly. The restructuring of all logistics chains of technological chains. Uh, therefore, of course, import substitution for us is now the number one issue, and here there is a very big prospect of working with the republic of belarus in the republic of belarus, there are a lot of industrial competencies, technological competencies, and these are competencies. To be honest, a number of, for example, the industrial competencies of the Russian Federation were lost in the 90s and th years, first of all, when we unreasonably sized a very good, industrial core in the republic of ono has always been preserved. And as for here industry of the republic is a very good strong industry. And we are very interested in this cooperation. We are actively cooperating now with grease. Here we go. Uh, good such steady relations. And there are a number of enterprises there, both in the mogilev region and in the brest region. Uh, our enterprises in the brest region. There , directly on gas equipment, they cooperate there, including we take certain components for ovens. Well, in Radio Electronics there are very serious prospects for motor technology. Here we have purchased engines from mogilev lift machines. Moreover, for example, mogilev or there or a car, these engines are produced almost independently, there are localizations, almost 99. 9 of engines. It seems to me a very good localization. We have concluded an agreement with a sharp plant for e, the purchase of equipment. We have good prospects for import substitution. Therefore, i think that this cooperation will continue, and therefore we will work closely in this direction. That is, in principle, we are ready to overcome together. If difficult, i think that, of course we will overcome. I dont even have a minute. I doubt that both the republic of belarus and the Russian Federation are in their association of cooperation. Well, what kind of sanctions are terrible for us . You probably remember that in the recent past, some 30 years ago. Yes, we were an absolutely selfsufficient state. I mean, the soviet union , which included the Russian Federation, the republic of belarus, and it seems to me that all, uh, the foundations are technological backlogs for our independence, economic and technological independence. All created. Its just that now we need to remember how it was and to revive these close cooperative ties. If we talk about belarusian equipment, how well it shows itself, maybe you are also going to increase supplies. Well, we will, uh , increase the supply of the combine, of course, because the gonselman combines are good combines. Here we will increase the number of tractors , too. We are now, in principle, buying them for more than 40 somewhere. A unit is for tractors and 3234 units for combines, usually annually. Well, we will build up on combines. At us need in the twentyfifth year. Somewhere we will go out for purchases of 6570 units per year for which tractors we will also seriously increase, so to speak, purchases, as i said, elevator equipment. We are very interested in us, uh, interesting for our road workers of the mkadurov technique. This is a very good technique. And i want to say that there kador he works at the european level and also has a very high level of localization. Uh in the republic you have a minimum of imported e equipment, components in technology, which makes it very good to have a base time base, first of all, yes, a Maintenance Base for this technique. I think that our road organizations, especially now, when the replacement will take place. Such foreign germans there and all sorts, but the other one is already looking at, so to speak, amkodor is very serious, especially since we have a Service Center nearby and in samara, respectively, but i think that if we increase deliveries, uh, in the penza region , you think there, which Service Center will open here is not such a problem, in the past year. I had contact with the leadership of the cadet. They confirmed their readiness if we increase the supply of road equipment, they are ready, in principle, to come to the penza region. Its, uh, with regard to road engineering, but we also have a huge number of hmm areas of cooperation there, which i kind of see, you probably noticed. In penza , a chain of stores is already open. Generous, and dad, therefore, i think that we will also increase cooperation in processing. Recycling on too. I wonder, we understand that very much various agricultural hmm nomenclature we produce and process ourselves, but nevertheless. You have very good dairy products, sausages. By the way, by the way, brest cheeses are very good cheeses. Here is brest well done, they have made very Good Progress in this direction, so i think that we have quite serious opportunities for cooperation in agricultural processing, that is, such volumes. Such plans are better than confirmation of the quality of the brand, made in belarus. Of course, no, belarusian products, they they are very good in in general, the quality is delicious, and therefore, if you take Agricultural Products before work, well, uh, everything related to your goods is also reliable in operation, and most importantly, belarus is nearby and you can always very quickly even in case of some breakdowns. Opportunity to get spare parts therefore, i think that there are great prospects. And , of course, we cant help but ask when you are going to belarus, maybe there is some other place in the city that you havent been to yet, but you really want to. Well i am very i often visit the republic. I just arrived with alexandria. There are many places where i have been, well, there are places where i have not been, i would like to see in more detail, uh, the brest region, because in our visits, although it happens quite an enviable regularity, but just like that, just drive to see brest itself his godfather. Yes, and the outback of the region would be interesting, here, despite the fact that i have been to the republic many times, for example, there has never been a big omission in the biological forest, it is necessary to correct belarus Oleg Vladimirovich thank you very much, of course, we wish you in the description of the penza region, and, in principle, our extraneous attitude. Yes thanks. Summer is a time of new impressions, bright emotions, amazing events, there are moments that you want to stretch out for a lifetime. There are people with whom i never want to say goodbye, but there are places that i want to return, we always offer to go on a trip to the most beautiful places together. Belarus honestly. I never thought that there were turtles on komsomolskoye lake. Moreover, with them like this you can directly познакомиtься. You only imagine in order to turn victory park into a real green oasis by minsk residents. More than 60,000 trees and shrubs have been planted here. I think that each of us at least once tried to find a cage, i will reveal a secret. For it you need to go to molodechno, see in the program the route is built. On the tv channel belarus 24 we talk about people with whom the song genre will leave a vivid impression. It is quite limited in terms of conveying meanings and, in fact, everything musicians sing about from them and the same er, meanings only wrap them up. Eh, in different images, in order to write music, you still need to turn to the experience of talents. This is all, of course, good, but to write good music or make it. Good for you. You have to write a lot. Watch belarusians in the project on our tv channel. When you are in nature, it seems the world has fallen into silence. All the sounds of the bustle are gone and only the songs of the wind are specially caressed by the ear, so that you look around and understand what silence is all around at any opportunity, go to nature, go to forests, fields on the ozora river, breathe fresh air. Admire the clear sky, listen to the birds singing. Enjoy. Notice this beauty around harmony with nature belorus 24. Hello on the air program say, do not be silent in the studio victoria popova and Tatyana Shcherbina and today the head of the Russian Olympic Committee Stanislav Pozdnyakov is our guest good afternoon stanislav alekseevich hello, its clear that the reason for our meeting is grandiose Sports Festival that takes place in minsk and not only in minsk in 11 cities in belarus these are the second games of the countries the cis would like to know your impressions of this holiday games of the cis countries are already becoming or have already become traditions, good sports traditions. The idea appeared in the eighteenth year. And there, over the years , it has already been embodied in specific competitions for the second time, and certainly. I have an impression. Uh, the current games are the most positive. Uh. The thing is, there are a few things that stand out to me as representatives of the sports industry. Paniruyut the first it is unconditional. Uh, very high quality sports infrastructure that exists on today in the republic of belarus, it meets the highest standards of world standards and, of course, at such facilities. Eh, it is very convenient and comfortable for athletes to perform and take part. But uh, its not only comfort is safety. And uh, and uh, in fact, the high sports results that are shown at highlevel sports facilities are definitely higher than if they competed, uh, somewhere in simpler conditions. This is the first and second moment that impresses me very much. Whats this competitions are held in 11 cities of the republic, this is a very important and correct decision on the part of the organizing committee in order to show not only the capital, not only the main city of the republic well, to show the regions of the republic, because in the end it creates e. The attraction for the tourist flow, including from my country because of russia, because the russians are very interested in belarus with great uh pleasure to come here. And right here, e. I would like to include and my compatriots came and watched not only minsk but the western cities of belarus in the north of the eastern part. Well, that is, they were able to make a more complete impression of your beautiful country. And you yourself visited. Uh, all facilities are sports. No, i havent had time to see all the sports facilities yet, but nevertheless, its worth visiting in the program. As far as the schedule allows. Hmm i ve come here in belarus quite a number of times for other great competitions. For the Second European games, which went great in 1919, they were probably the best european games that uh , the organizers could afford to host. I ve seen interactions between the national Olympic Committees here on my travels, so im very knowledgeable. E, infrastructure about sports infrastructure and i want to emphasize that it meets the highest international standards, and on the eve of you, together with your e with your colleagues from the national Olympic Committees of belarus of azerbaijan a from the minister of sports of russia visited our khatyn memorial complex. You were there for the first time. Uh, the first time i went there was in the nineteenth year, just during the european games, ah, but i had heard about it for a very long time and since. Uh, our countries themselves have one common history , one common misfortune and grief or in the patriotic war. Therefore, i think that people of my age are certainly very well aware in all the republics of the former soviet union. And so to speak about the tragedy that befell the belarusian people, including the people, during the great patriotic war. And of course, uh, visiting places like that, it gives you the opportunity to not only uh try. Although it is almost impossible to feel the depth of grief, but the most important thing is to come there for no one to come there with seven young people with athletes, including uh, so that just visiting such places becomes a kind of inoculation so that this, a the horror of, uh, nazism is that mans hatred has not reared its head again. Unfortunately. Now you are all together. We see that there are attempts to rewrite history, but we must steadfastly and, uh, consistently resist this. Such places, of course, do not leave anyone indifferent, regardless. I saw the reaction, and in our guests not only because of the republics of the former soviet union, but also from other countries that were with us yesterday and therefore, well, everyone has the same reaction. We are all people , regardless of what nationality we are . In what countries and conditions do we live e we are all arranged in the same way, and therefore unconditionally. This is a reaction, it is normal and natural. Came here a couple of months ago german delegation. E in belarus and visited khatyn. It turned out that the germans do not even know about what actually happened on the territory of belarus during the great patriotic war, those very attempts to rewrite history, when i dont know, now lets start this one. Is it a barrage topic . Yes, it was you who publicly focused attention once upon a time that the games of the cis countries this is not an answer to anyone. Explain thought. Yes definitely uh, this is not an answer, but in the sense that uh puts some of our opponents. They try to criticize us for what we do. Uh, some alternative. E Olympic Games and so on, of course. This is not an alternative, because the Olympic Games. They are unique in themselves. E in human history, they have always been there and im sure the mentor is another matter that the current leadership of the international Olympic Committee. Well, it has taken a very, sensitive , politicized position, having accepted, in fact. Uh, one of the sides of the current conflict and thus, creating tension on the three Sports Community, the certainty that this will disappear over time and uh. Uh, just like me and i am sure that the Commonwealth Games will continue their history regardless of our relationship with the international Olympic Committee, because this history was, and the first games were created and invented. Gone are u in the twentyfirst year and it is absolutely impossible to say that this can somehow become some kind of alternative to the Olympic Games , there are many large large u, multisport competitions in the world, and then the same Commonwealth Games of the british christmas garden, which in general something is natural part of the sports process, so the games of the cis countries they have their own clear. Uh, after all, its own circuit participates in them, both the cis countries and in the current format. They are open to other countries that wish to participate, and the minister of sports, as he said, why not the americans take part there , please, those who wish can always take part in competitions, because sport is one of the unique phenomena of mankind between sport, in which in general, but, in fact , politics should go to not even the second to the third plane. And here, uh, the best athletic qualities, physical qualities, and uh, should be manifested. Those who are rivals e in stadiums sports tracks swimming pools. After the competition is the biggest friends in this philosophy, sports and the Olympic Movement. These are the main ideals. Friendship respect for the opponent and the pursuit of excellence. Who shares these ideals with us. Here, as a matter of fact, the international Olympic Committee is keeping pace with us. Today clearly does not share. These, i would say which interprets in its own way, a in a convenient form. Unfortunately. E now in the world. Eh, its getting smaller and smaller. Uh, rules of clear rules that all participants follow. Eh, everything, is engaged in a peculiar interpretation of these rules. Therefore, we still remain conservatives. And therefore we try to respect and observe these rules, but, nevertheless. And our belarusian and russian athletes in the last year and a half are, so to speak, in limbo. Uh, and uh, some hotheads even say its time to go out generally from the international Olympic Committee. What is your point of view on this issue, uh, understand . Uh, who mm there are many different positions . Uh, or rather, two diametrically opposed positions, in fact, uh, the International Olympic movement is now in the stage of a certain imbalance. Perhaps even a split there is a rule, which is based on the olympic charter, which must be observed by all participants in the International Olympic movement and, uh, the national Olympic Committees. Main purpose is to protect the promotion of olympic values ​​and ideals on the territory of the respective countries and states of many belarus and the Russian Olympic Committee, and we are fullfledged fullfledged participants in the Olympic Movement, moreover , we strictly implement the olympic charter. But uh, unfortunately, the interpretation by our colleagues from lausanne is uh, v. In general, e is very very peculiar, so it is absolutely pointless to go out from somewhere, firstly, there is no such procedure. And in general it is legally insignificant i will explain the term withdrawal from the international Olympic Committee. Why are the international Olympic Committees, and this is an individual membership in the international Olympic Committee, that is, these are individuals, in this case in russia this is shamil tarpichev. Here, for example, he can withdraw from membership , such a procedure is provided for, and the national Olympic Committees are either recognized or not recognized by the international Olympic Committee, therefore losing recognition. We are with us, we will lose what we will lose the opportunity, but to build our relationships with the nomi of other countries. And how are we doing now, lets say we signed africa at the russia forum. A memorandum of cooperation with four african states is the same. By the way , a memorandum exists between our national Olympic Committees on the basis of these documents. We are already doing our practical work, we help athletes with the organization of competitive activities and educational training activities. We implement Educational Programs together. We organize everything related to technology and equipment of athletes, we help them with this. Well, definitely. This is a big humanitarian mission of the national Olympic Committees. This is promotion. Here are the very olympic values ​​among the young people of our fellow citizens in order to a show that through the port , like this, they wanted to found or the Olympic Movement to make our imperfect world a little better, therefore, these things. They are certainly built for relationships on partnerships with numbers from different countries, that is, legally. This is legally possible. It is quite possible, that is, no such a concept, uh, to leave the ioc, the status will remain the same. You are telling me that you could already be out of sight the committee consists of individuals and individuals of the organization of the national Olympic Committees are part of the Olympic Movement, but they are not members, so we cannot get out of there, because we were not included there, because its not provided at all, and so when people talk about lets get out of the flies. Well, to put it mildly, comets are not legally competent. Uh, people and athletes, of course well, famous trainers support your point of view. But here are those very, so to speak, desperate turbos, as we call them patriots, who are from the high stands. Yes you are worried they are able to make the weather, in general. What do you think spoil, at least some of the relationship with the international you know . And i want to say that uh, all the categories of people and athletes you listed, and uh, some deputies are patriots, of course, these are all people who really, really want success and prosperity in their country. These people are patriotic on citizens, because all citizens who are not patriotic have long since left our wonderful country and certainly. Each of these points of view has a place to exist. But, you know, uh. I think that here , uh, we need to talk about competence and expertise in the first place, if the Sports Community, by the way , is, uh, and uh, in our deputy corps there are athletes olympians faces champions who clearly understand, and then what, how they work International Olympic movement. And who goes in and out there. Thats why they adhere to an absolutely clear patriotic point. But u share it with me, therefore, i think that the most important thing is that each uh person is an expert in his field, and certainly in the deputy corps such uh people are not what they are, but they are the majority, but they are experts there in various other areas, so i would still suggest that the expert Sports Community decide within themselves. And so to speak, issues related to the Olympic Movement, no matter how much one would like it, but the tasks and one of the goals, and the national Olympic Committee in each country is uh, protection and propaganda and olympism. Just e in a separate asian, so here we are. Perhaps in different positions, but nevertheless less patriots. Neither category of, uh, russians is not a national Olympic Committee, the Russian Olympic Committee constantly defends the interests. Athletes protect them. Uh, the right to be athletes. As a matter of fact, yes to compete at various international competitions, they dispute the discriminatory decision of ed. Eh, how would you comment on such a phenomenon. Eh, how only russians and belarusians were suspended from participation in the Olympic Games, doping rocks somehow came down to no, i would answer this question exactly as toppings, like scandals, really. Went down because it changed. Uh, the international agenda, but the information field has changed and now, uh, in relation to russian belarusian athletes. We are already talking about the fact that the discussion is on the topic of admission to competitions. Eh, all the more so the entire western media machine is working to prohibit these things from being done, er, in any form or form. Thats why the questions, so to speak, doping violations. And in the background, meanwhile, the russian dedoping agency is working in full, there are, uh, statistics of doping violations, which , unfortunately, have not disappeared anywhere, but they are being detected and, in fact, ah. Here is such a, in general, directly weighty threat. But all the athletes hang about the fact that either you perform in an honest way, or you will inevitably incur, there is a punishment, so here is the question, but the presentation from my point of view. Uh, this information is through western media as soon as the athletes. E russians are belarusians. They will start participating in competitions. I think that they will come up with some kind of story. This is not excluded, so you should be prepared for this. It didnt happen yesterday with you and me, so it s been quite a long time already, 9 years ago, and yet, maybe these games that we are now holding and you announced the games of friendship yes that will be held in russia in moscow. They will still respond to those relationships. I want to say that and these competitions and uh friendship games that are planned to be Held Next Year this is an opportunity for our athletes to show. E your highest sporting level at international venues. This is very important, because for any athlete. Uh , not only a workout is needed and not a bit of a workout. How many opportunities to take part in competitions, therefore, such Large International sports forms give such an opportunity to athletes to take part, in addition, it gives the opportunity to our compatriot, who is sports fans, to look at the spectators, highlevel athletes, and perhaps in some sports and setting records, because we have such ones, regardless, so to speak, of the opportunity to compete in the mesozone. There are many sports where there is e. Time cuts, where you can set sports records either in height or in speed, and i think that this is a Good Opportunity for athletes who have shown their highest sports level to receive welldeserved prize money. We should also celebrate this aspect, among other things. You said answering the first question. What early or its too late for this situation to change. And what do you think about the next Olympic Games in paris and the prospects for our athletes to participate in them . The prospects here are quite uh complicated, but the fact is that the qualifiers are already going on. Uh, competitions for the Olympic Games and talk about what a fullfledged ledge. These are our teams or our athletes in competitions not accounted for already after the recommendation could, which they were issued on march 28th. They excluded all team disciplines. Uh, eliminated athletes representing uh, army. Dynamo teams and so on ah, at least in the russian team, more than half of your athletes have medals, er, at previous Olympic Games. Well, in the summer, i mean in tokyo. These are the representatives of such sports communities, so of course. Uh, in terms of benefits, very complex and moreover , the recommendation that the ioc has issued is for the most part, but for athletes. Uh, at least for russian athletes is unacceptable and uh, here i am, of course, very skeptical about the fact that a essentially, any significant part of the russian Sports Community will be able to take part in these games. If this happens, it will be a very small number of people who are already speaking. Well, for example , tennis competitions, which did not stop, were held. Uh, throughout this unique tennis federation. We have been several times in this studio to delight. This is the only, perhaps, the federation that e did not go to about the uh of the western mainstream. And in general, continued to work like this it is written in their own mustav. Therefore, in this part, of course, i am absolutely not impressed by the fact that our strange athletes in tennis perform with an absence. Eh, flags and other state symbols, but nevertheless, you now understand that these are the bans that led to the ioc and a year and a half ago. They uh, in general, have brought more damage to the International Olympic movement than any other thing, so i am sure that this situation will be a good lesson for the entire Sports Community in the future. Uh, because its sad that our athletes are suffering, but nevertheless, it will be a lesson. As well as sanctions, for sure. Lets take a moment. Lets break, i remind you, we have a telegram channel. Say dont be silent. Subscribe ask questions and suggest guests we are in touch. On the air again , say the program, do not be silent. Today i am our guest, president of the Russian Olympic Committee , fourtime olympic champion Stanislav Pozdnyakov as a famous fencer. I would like to ask you to comment on the recent ones. Uh, the swordswoman cases, uh ukrainian harlan, who in this spirit harland smirnov made a mistake the organizers and the international Olympic Committee made a mistake. After completely veiled the qualifications of the ukrainian athlete in our audience, absolutely justly in terms of the rules, that there are certain rules after the fight, what should happen . Uh, in theory, this is how e ends with a salute to each other by athletes and a handshake. Until this moment , the duel is not considered to be completed in terms of formal rules, of course sportswoman. E, representing ukraine , left the track without a salute or a handshake, so she was rightfully given a black card. Moreover, i will say that as a person from nine years old, engaged in fencing. Uh, the handshake is uh. Well, not, if not the most important, but one of the most uh attributes, uh, of a fencing match in sports schools, where children from a very young age know, despite what exists, there are insults, because there is always a winner, the loser should all shake hands with the coaches. Very carefully for they are watching it. That is, it is part of the fencing culture, and therefore, if there is an athlete in childhood. E even formally did not shake hands usually an athlete. Uh, one of the kids went home and never came back to the fencing section. That is, it was. Yes , in this way. Uh, yes, and therefore, of course, this is the wildest case that i observed, uh, at the World Championships and the wildest thing, and the international Olympic Committee , out of all, so to speak, its rules, has also allocated an additional code for this athlete and with that the head of the international Olympic Committee himself is a fencer. He knows these rules very well and respected them the most and raised the question. Maybe it was initiated. Can the athlete herself take such a step, such serious violations, by the way, initiate so that she can give an additional code, but i would wallow in this, because the ukrainian athlete is of a fairly high level. In order to get the olympic quota in a fair way, but this demarche is unconditional. It was like that. Uh, political a gesture of political challenge and it is very sad that the international Olympic Committee just accepted, uh, one of the parties to this conflict unconditionally. This does not paint the Sports Community and certainly to me as a fencer. It touched the depths of the soul and i would not like to criticize anyone, but for me this is the saddest, saddest case that i have seen them. Well, this once again confirms the fact that they could have chosen the side they decided. Yes, thats exactly what it looks like. Eh, i would like, of course, e to talk about what it seems to us, it may not be so, but somehow it is all too obvious that this is happening. There are times when you have to choose it, maybe thats what it pushes you towards. Well, sort of like that, about which we talked above. The Olympic Movement is not always independent. Uh, from individual personalities, after all, the Olympic Movement is a system of values ​​that cannot be changed or broken with any actions. Therefore, yes today, uh, there is one head of this organization at the helm. Uh, in the twentyfifth year, another chapter will come, so it will be is already a new stage, so to speak , of the development of the International Olympic movement, so we play on credit. And we will as they say, we will see. Now, in the current conditions, to be more a diplomat than a sports functionary. E, constantly monitoring your statements , you know some comments and statements in any acute period of relations with International Sports organizations, but certainly. Uh, the most important task of the national Olympic Committee and the National Sports federation is not to harm, so to speak, uh future. In any case, i am absolutely sure of this, because uh, all relationships will be restored and uh, how quickly this will happen is difficult to predict now, but they absolutely will be restored. And just in time, so to speak, for the warming that will occur. There, the main thing is not to break a lot of firewood, so certainly now, uh, we are more sports diplomats from this point of view. Uh, this is one of my point of view one of the missions of the national Olympic Committees. Just some difficult, uh, political moments. That is to say, instability. Uh , we must remain like this, a kind of island. It is not always possible to do this. Unfortunately, but nevertheless it is necessary to aspire to it. This is our task. Your daughter sofya pozdnyakova, her fencers, fans of this sport, are well aware, and she, famous for closely, won the Olympic Games twice, but once admitted in an interview that she wants to make her father win the Olympic Games five times, well, with this, as we understand it is difficult, but does she continue to train, in general, what is her mood for sure. Uh, she does. She trains and takes part in competitions. Mm, like all highlevel athletes after the olympics, its hard to find motivation. Eh, there is an additional layer here, the current circumstances. But still, however , a man in love with swordsmanship. She continues to be interested in this, and then more than once at the educational training events to participate in competitions and e for a person who is in love with this in our sport for sure. Uh, selfpresence in it is the very opportunity to take in fights , competitions, regardless of their level, uh. E, of course, is such a kind, nice bonus. Eh, to the profession that athletes choose, but you once said in an interview that you dont understand or not always, like all of us and the younger generation, they are completely different, e. G. , at the moment you are watching how she is going through this thats the moment, well you can say dramatic in his career. Shes strong in your mind stronger than you are here or maybe, well , i would rather make some compromises that offer the same could i have no doubts there will be compromises here. Uh, absolutely cant, especially after recent cases, its another matter that athletes are not, uh, completely not very deeply involved. Uh, so to speak, e in our discussion. Yes, its not necessary. This. Strictly speaking, not another task. We need to prepare for competitions to show the best sports results. It is nevertheless unconditional, uh, the sport is going through, because especially highlevel athletes, because uh, they already know what the Olympic Games are like, they definitely want to take part in these competitions. And here it is different. All athletes behave. E the search for motivation is a very important task that our athletes now face, but on the other hand, there is, a little formed

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