Now, spain found itself in a political impasse as a result of snap elections , none of the parties received an absolute majority. The question of who will be able to form a coalition remains open. Before the elections, almost all the spanish media were talking about the rise of the farright conservative party as the voice of its future coalition with the conservative Peoples Party. However, as it turned out , half a million fewer spaniards voted for her. Rather than in 2019. This came as a big surprise, especially after in may, she showed excellent results in local elections. Farright leader santiago bascal blamed the Peoples Party for everything, which, according to him , conducted an too successful election campaign, drawing votes for itself conservative and rightwing electorate. A conservative Peoples Party. Although it won the most seats in the countrys parameter, the prime ministers ruling socialist Workers Party is unlikely to easily form a coalition. Pedro sanchez has achieved a better result than predicted, and he himself claims that there will be no need for reelections. But it is far from being exactly excluded that in order to get a working government to the spaniards. You have to go to the polling station again. Saint petersburg despite the active opposition of western countries, the second forum was successfully held. Russia africa the event was attended by delegations from 49 countries of the continent 17. Of these , the key issue of discussion was the Food Security of the russian president. Vladimir putin promised to provide free grain to the sixyearold state of this continent , the rest were assured of russias readiness to compensate for losses from the absence of ukrainian grain on the market against the background of the expected record harvest, we will be ready already in in the next month, in the next 34 months , to provide the burkinos with the zimbali of somalia of the Central African republic free of charge. Entrance 2550. 000 tons of grain will provide free delivery of these products to the consumer. In addition, putin promised to increase the number of scholarships for African Students to promote the opening of branches of russian universities in africa. Also, correspondent points of the main media separately discussed the prospects for increasing air traffic between moscow and the capitals of african states. Chinese foreign minister qinggang dismissed from office this decision was made by the Standing Committee of the entire chinese peoples congress. Prc fiftyyearold tsingan stayed. In this post, for less than seven months, his removal from office was preceded by his long absence from the public space in the Chinese Foreign ministry, information about his whereabouts in a state of health. No comment. 2022. Russian king and exemplary warriors frederick the great somehow noted negotiations without weapons, that music without instruments today in our program we will talk about negotiations and about peace and about weapons of war, and even the musicians themselves will be Andrey Petrovich bogadel to help me understand all this. Deputy head of the faculty of the general staff of the armed of all belarus, candidate of military sciences. Hello and native alexandrovna where is vargyan, a political scientist in astakov from russia hello, the face of purely citizens and in addition, i would like to introduce our esteemed guests who joined via video link our program is peoples deputy of ukraine of the ninth convocation Oleg Voloshin and military analyst military expert yuriy dudkin hello yuriy hello nadezhda well, according to tradition, our program of our discussion , we are starting to come true issue. What do you think polands entry into the war in the region is a realistic scenario for today, Andrey Petrovich, you, as a military man and who knows more than many journalists, my colleagues, well, to say in general what this entry into the war means today, as it were, by and large everyone says there is no war held special operation carried out various actions that are related to the opposition of ukraine and the Russian Federation well , nevertheless, any conflict of this kind. Its still an armed confrontation. And, of course, it falls by and large under this terminology, that this is really a military conflict and, of course, for e. Ukraine this is a war of no doubt. Polands entry into this conflict today. I still think it is unlikely for what reason, firstly, poland is not ready for this war at the moment. She has carried out rearmament, it is carrying out modernization, primarily the armament of military equipment. And, of course, the structure itself is changing at the moment. She has only three battleready divisions, one more eighteenth is in a state of formation. The first one is still, in fact , only on paper, and another one is in the distant, distant plans so that in 2035, as they said, to form two complete hull sets. Well, apparently. Of course, they will speed up this process somewhat, and most likely, since now all other doctrinal military documents are accepted in 2030. I think that poland is also planning to go there in the medium term. We will discuss in more detail and visually show our infographics of the map of indigenous people, but there is certainly an ambition to enter this battle. Well , modern warfare is very specific in this regard, one could say that more is involved anyway. Uh, in the ukrainian theater of operations, an act, since the socalled polish volunteers are there a pack, please, that is, here the question is what kind of parrots u count u regarding one small note . I have great doubts about rearmament, given the devastation of nato arsenals and the impossibility of restarting the vc for war with exactly the intensity of production of weapons that is needed for war, therefore, in a certain sense of the word. This i am now my thought ring. And it seems that they will scare us with what it means and show in every possible way that more is being prepared or directly. Tomorrow , either he will attack belarus, or he will lead troops in western ukraine, then both. But there is one thing, but they raise the stakes and can finish the game, thereby, because this is the very chekhov gun that should fire in the last act it will seem to them that they are playing a performance by raising the stakes fighting. And it seems that this is where their west is pushing saddam according to the scenario, whose hussein the americans once said, yes, go capture this hmm kuvei, right . Well, again, such from the lips of many european politicians hear that if ukraine loses, then poland will certainly be forced to join. Poland from the point of view. At least the fact that and today the Ukrainian Army and the army which is led by the zelensky regime for a percentage, there 8090 depends on supplies from the west and the main logistics hulk of these supplies are not located on the territory of poland and even repair bases for military equipment located in poland then in terms of. Now, if im wrong, you dear military will correct, but i still believe. Im right, in fact more are already involved in these hostilities just like uh, its impossible to deny there. And what about some other countries that we say . Ahh, in one form or another, the actions of the Russian Federation in the supply of certain types of weapons, they can also be considered participants in the conflict, because they know exactly where these weapons are from the pulse. Well, of course, in fact, except for hungary or the European Union there about the war on the side of the kiva, today the mood is e in ukraine, at least those that we hear to you, what the censorship misses. And what ukrainians allow themselves to say is not to be afraid of repression, but boils down to the fact that ukrainians are ready to accept help from anyone, and since the losses are colossal, and if more entered the war. Unfortunately, we must admit that many of our compatriots. And they would, of course. We are glad for such an expansion of the conflict, simply because, while not yet in their majority, they are not ready to make compromises, unfortunately, at least, what we hear the public space, but the player also does not want to, and the losses are already too great, so the entry of the poles into the war for many ukraine would be a lot. Well, i want to add a combination of historical claims of tightness of the european framework for the ambitions of a part of the elite, they are pushing modern poland onto the path of militarization and sharp confrontation with the eastern neighbors of power, poland has done and is doing everything to draw the poles into the war with russia and belarus, despite deep economic crisis in poland, the republican government began to purchase weapons and military equipment for gigantic sums and take out loans, thereby driving the country into longterm debt, warsaw is preparing for the military east, testify to this. Many things. More detailed in our story is the activity of nato and with it the growing military threat. More and more is shifting to the east, but military equipment is already standing on our borders and thousands of Alliance Soldiers play a key role in this. Polands Ruling Coalition wants independence and with it the power of all this. In order to return speech to the commonwealth and become the new center of europe without looking back at the old light precisely these ambitious plans. Warsaw has recently become at the head of the countrys domestic and foreign policy. Poland is part of the largest and most important military alliance in the worlds history of the north atlantic treaty organization. We consider this an essential guarantee of our security, polands own defense is very important, therefore, in 2023. We want to increase our armed forces by at least 20,000 new soldiers, and i say not the Territorial Defense, but the regular army. Today the polish armed forces are about 150,000 people 30,000, of which are part of the new Territorial Defense forces. In addition, 4,000 nato military personnel are permanently stationed in the country , another 5,000 are sent under the pretext of a threat from russia and this is only a small part. In addition, some countries of the alliance are even ready to help more aspirations to seize. Europe, where the polish partners need support, they will receive it, they are our partners and reliable allies in nato, so we can say with confidence that we are ready. However, warsaws appetites continue to grow the opinion of experts. If earlier poland did not seek to end the ukrainian conflict in the hope of getting a notorious piece of a foreign country, now it has increased its military potential. She will try to play the same card in belarus about this. During negotiations with vladimir putin, Alexander Lukashenko told her that i specifically card about the transfer of the armed forces to poland, lets say one of them will lead. We stood at 500 km, transferred the map to 40 km, ill show you, we can see it all, and a little more than 100 km from grodno, the second brigade is being transferred, well, they have a division, but for now, uh brigades approached, e opened. They repair leopards. Uh, the poles are on their territory and you live, the airfield where the americans are transferring equipment is activated, however , despite all attempts, any encroachments on our country will be suppressed, words of support and security guarantees for minsk were voiced by vladimir putin, as for belarus, this is part of the union state and unleashing aggression against belarus would mean aggression against the Russian Federation. Therefore, we will respond with all the means at our disposal. Yuri at the summit in vilnius, ukraine was quite openly frankly told that the country can still be forgotten about nato membership in the foreseeable future. Please tell me, but such rather aggressive actions on the part of poland are coordinated with the same United States of america that play a key role in this alliance , it is beneficial for the americans to have this hyena of europe two years ago, uh, hope on Ukrainian Television and despite everyone, so to speak, the general opinion that ukraine is not ready for war, so we we will never fight with russia, we ukrainian leadership must agree. Well, and so on and the like, i declare today and then. That there will be a military clash between russia and poland when it is a matter of time, apparently, when poland invaded the territory of ukraine in its western regions, and possibly on the territory of belarus, then the Russian Troops , together with the belarusian troops, will, say, be in military clash with the polish army that poland i want to disappoint many supporters of the opinion that that is no longer ready for war, she is being transformed and so on. Ukraine was also not ready for war, but sorry , today poland has full sovereignty. No, she is under the complete influence of washington and brussels, so how they say there, how they give the goahead. In those, lets say, e decisionmaking centers, this is how poland will act in relation to ukraine and in relation to belarus. Do you agree with yuris opinion . Perhaps there are debatable points. I would just like to add. I agree that a is for sure the poles will be forced to fight. This is already becoming obvious. Well, who is the question who is the subject who will force . These are the same unknown fathers of the transnational system of government that control the biden, and ursula von der, liang e, that poland is subordinate to brussels what is brussels then you need to ask, this, in fact, is simple, and the Occupation Administration from the side. Here, uh, the same forces that i mentioned. Well, but when this happens, we need to discuss the timing here , the whole question is what exactly. Where are the forces a in the face of the old biden, but they will fight in the twentyfourth year for the presidency of the United States, that is, the front of the exchange of these very forces. This is a very important question. And you all know what he is opposed to, this is not our topic today and not the format to discuss it, and most likely these forces in order to raise the stakes and show the complexity of the situation, but on the world stage and the involvement of the United States itself and in this situation just push poland. Um, around twentyfour. That is, at the end of this year at the beginning of twenty fourth armament. Poland buys. Mostly in south korea, because it is one of the few countries, and lets say that the North Atlantic Alliance has allies. Its really a huge sum to use our Power Generation and capacities for the production of intensive production of weapons, if im not mistaken, 12 billion, in my opinion, but for poland its a lot of money. Yes, uh, and the money is in the nightstand, that is, uh, respectively, the money is printed in the United States and understandable. By the way poland actually uh, in relation to poland, the old powers of europe as well as neighbors such as slovakia, the czech republic, hungary, and so on. They are already looking at poland like wolves, because they do not understand that poland is going to start a huge chaos in the region. And well, in this interpretation such a phrase. I would like to say amazing. You see, there is some kind of political and historical matrix they always put on that train that flies the abyss, here they are with pride they believe in this train. And that he flies to a Brighter Future this is absolutely amazing. Thats how they are denied, and a sense of emotional selfpreservation at such critical moments. There are such peoples, partly they include the people to which i belong ethnically and oleg e, certainly indigenous alexandrovna said the elections in the United States of america in 2024, lets not forget about the elections that are coming in the same poland, the current militant course in many ways is a reflection of the sentiment, the ruling nationalist nationalist right. The very same party itself. Pis their opponents. From the same team. Donald. Tuska also does not differ in constructive attitudes towards the republic of belarus towards the Russian Federation. E. Well , at least they are not militarists and do not dream of a speech, the commonwealth from the sea home the sea. What are the chances there to see a more moderate power in warsaw following the results of the elections . I think our viewers understand that, uh, poland is a Historical Society of beasts of poland and, uh, lets say such a general antirussian vector. And this is what unites them. And this, by the way, is something that was completely uncharacteristic, but in general, ukraine, except for itself the western part, which, unfortunately, is a big challenge now, by the way, the most interesting thing. E. Here. I think we will return to this in the discussions about poland and the Russian Federation in the republic of belarus. Unfortunately, very often. E. Here there is such a confusion of the concept when instead of talking. And thats how today you are not in the studio on the ship correctly talking about the ambitious and adventurous and the main dependent on the washington regional committee. Elite. Poland starts to this, just the antipolish side. Thats how the poles are such and such. Here i kind of have the honor. In general, we , dear friend and colleague yuri dudkin, are engaged in the formation of a movement, another ukraine is, in fact, another. Poland, uh, those poles who, uh, in general, for various reasons, not sometimes not out of great love , do not pragmatically share anything special. The current course, mr. Dud lets say, and the third most popular Political Force in poland today is formal. The nationalist party is a confederation, and which is actually due to the fact that it is a real ethnic nationalists. Polish do not want transformation poland to the branch of the sandwich headquarters and very negatively perceives the appearance in poland of millions of ukrainian migrants, who, including western ukraine, who actually carry with them the ideology of bendery, they are supporters. Uh, poland is for the poles, and in this sense they are objective allies for both minsk and moscow, since, and the slogan is more for the poles, uh, implies that warsaw should not flirt, huh . With those forces in kiev that generates bandera and who in poland is considered a murderer and terrorists. That is, in this sense, when we we begin to say that all poles are bad, but this is, to put it mildly, wrong, especially in the republic of belarus where i remind you. E. Well, probably, every tenth person can have belarusians if they have polish roots, and about 200,000 ethnic poles are loyal citizens of the republic of belarus and in this sense have always supported, and the president s course is Alexander Lukashenko that belarus is a multinational state, where everyone is comfortable. By the way, im already a politician. Excuse the military if but if i was asked in the context of the upcoming elections, the party, white russia i would even demonstrate that belarus is not far away from the International Headquarters and not modern poland, but a country where all nationalities are respected in the leadership of the party, belarus would take one of the technical poles and make it so that in the new parliament of belarus , the technical pole dealt with the issue, for example, of national tires or some other such, to show that in fact no one in minsk is antipolish. There is a mood, uh, related to the rejection of the course of the polish establishment, which is under authorities, but not at all an antipolish mood, because the antipolish mood in belarus which directions are ukrainian in russia, they are dangerous with an internal explosion today, uh, ukrainians in russia are actually a second people. Uh, after the russians yes, there are more of them than that one, and the poles in belarus are well, ok, not the second but this is far from the twentyfifth people either, therefore, i would warn some of my belarusian colleagues, especially political scientists who mix up the courses of the official warsaw quite polish more polish not equal the bad was great. Oleg please. You know, i always make the same remarks, because only for one rokossovsky and the victims of the peoples army. We do not have the right and our tongue does not turn. Say this, let the poles know this, and, moreover, our fellow citizens are not few of them, and in russia in belarus it goes without saying, but from my point of view, we are talking only about the political elite of the establishment. Just mention it every time. Eh, you know, this first one is quite difficult. And the second is about the elections. Most most importantly, i would like to say that biden won by rigging. There will be the same fraud in poland and they will win, maybe the confederates would have lied more votes. I completely agree with you, but those who do not give them these votes and appoint the one who needs to be, this scenario has already worked out perfectly in several countries, including eastern europe, for example in slovakia, is pretty good for me. It is known how mrs. Chaputova became the president of the country, who no one at all knew. And suddenly i found out that people voted for her, they conducted research , they asked who nobody voted, you understand , they will do nothing, they will draw. Yes, Andrey Petrovich , lets talk about the military component, according to the minister, of defense. Poland, mariusz, blashchik, in august , a sapper battalion will be created in the suwalki corridor between the kaliningrad region and belarus. It will be another military unit built from scratch. At the same time , blaschik assured that it was not the last and lets Pay Attention to our table with plans increase in the polish armed forces. And i would like you to comment if the prerequisites for considering yes , in the foreseeable future, poland and within nato, on an equal footing with france and turkey , poland is not a country that is capable of defeating russia today, and this must be clearly understand, she can only create for her the complexity of the geostrategic plan, which she successfully does. You look how the summit ended, the summit resolved the issue of not joining wars, more war about creating coalitions. And here it is clearly necessary to understand, not one. Poland will act. And when ukraine loses, romania will join it too. You can, please. I believe that there will be an outbreak of transcaucasia and in the middle at the same time, that is, we will be perforated around the entire circumference. Caucasus this is the next place where all this will take place, so isolate poland from the general events. This would be categorically wrong. Well, 150,000 for the Russian Federation, Vladimir Vladimirovich correctly said, as soon as you enter, where you enter, you will stay there. This the truest words are existence in general more as such, which entered the war with russia all of a sudden. You understand this, this is maybe a watch. And maybe even minutes of the existence of this state, realizing what is the potential . Yes . That is, there is no need to pull the fact that the war is a special operation taking place today in ukraine with the war that russia will need to show in order to stop the entire nato bloc once and for all, you understand the wet spot. Thats what should stay and what the chapter should show of the state of the Russian Federation as the supreme commanderinchief today we are right to say that poland is arming itself. She has a clear plan. Moreover, this weaponry is on a global scale. You understand that the most important law on the protection of the state is being adopted. What does he say that, firstly, to significantly increase the budget to increase the armed forces to 300. 250 this is a professional army 50 this is Territorial Defense, the purchase of weapons correctly said the indigenous alexander there is no possibility today for nato even completely to arm one poland and therefore they are already beginning to abandon abrams for the apards and everything is in favor of the hand of the second newest tanks that come from south from south korea perfectly, realizing that in the thirtieth year they do not have time to rearm even such a single country, where to get the money. Lets look at poland from 2004 to 2004, the twentyfirst year annually received from the budget 11 billion dollars, which is crazy money. And what is happening now, when it is being carried out . This largescale rearmament from the budget is starting annually allocate about 33 billion, which is actually equal to the budget of the military. Uh, this republic itself. And this money they where they come from is equal to the contributions that are paid there, germany and britain there are also taken. Well , damn it, actually, germany has already become such a donor, but she once again said that we will help poland too. Yes, and we are demanding reparations from this donor. I believe that today poland cannot be called the hyena of europe, so as not to offend a real predator that earns here this parasitism on the body europe and parasitism precisely on the body of the same germany , thats what it is today, poland, if you compare it with the capabilities of the same france , look at the world today. Well, there are literally four states that are completely selfsufficient militarily. This is the United States, russia, china and france are pulling up somewhere else. Yes, britain has its tasks. Somewhere at the end of the tunnel is, india is those states. Well, wounds. It is not yet the most sufficient in many matters. Im talking about whos running from space rocket technologies. Aircraft carriers, yes, and ending with boots and footcloths for a soldier. Yes , its literally just these states Andrey Petrovich lets also discuss the retaliatory measures that the republic of belarus is taking and of course. I would like to hear the comments of president Alexander Lukashenko, which is connected with the placement of the wagner guy on the territory of the republic of belarus, please, to the west. Let us, i tell you, why go back there . Well, im quiet. We control what happens. Well, lets go on a tour im looking for warsaw, but its not acceptable for them when they fought under e, artyomovsk. Uh, they know where they left