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Are in listening mode, they say. Has the balance shifted on the use of long range weapons . Very good evening. Senior republicans are bemoaning Donald Trumps performance Last Night in the first and potentially the only televised debate with Vice President Kamala Harris. Several times throughout the more than 90 Minute Debate in philadelphia, the Vice President Baited Trump on many of the issues she knew would get under her opponents skin. They sparred over the size of his rallies, his electoral defeat in 2020 and the World Leaders who she said were laughing at him. From the opening exchange, it seemed to work. The former president did land some blows, Drawing Attention to biden� s record on the economy and immigration and, by association, Kamala Harris role in that. But Snap Polls suggested it was Ms Harris who came out on top. The more important poll, though, the one on election day, remains very much in the balance. From philadelphia, heres our north america editor, sarah smith. At a September 11 Memorial service, it was Donald Trump who orchestrated a cordial greeting this morning. Quite a contrast to Kamala Harris striding across the stage Last Night to demand a handshake from a reluctant mr trump. Shed come prepared to push his buttons. People start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. Provoking an unsubstantiated rant about illegal migrants in ohio. In springfield, they are eating the dogs the people that came in theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating. Theyre eating the pets of the people that live there. Just watch both their faces. He is clearly bristling with barely contained frustration. Shes enjoying mocking and laughing at him. But deadly serious when attacking him on Abortion Rights. The government, and Donald Trump certainly, should not be telling a woman what to do with her body. Ms harris said she would try to reinstate the right to have an abortion. But her Vice President ial pick says abortion in the ninth month is absolutely fine. Mr trump wrongly claimed that democrats support Abortion Rights right up to and even after birth. That provoked a fact check from one of the debate moderators. There is no state in this i country where it is legal to kill a baby after it is born. A flustered Donald Trump relied repeatedly on attacking the current Administrations Record on immigration. Why are we allowing these millions of people to come through on the southern border . How come shes not doing anything . Democrats here say they are very happy with how Kamala Harris managed to keep Donald Trump on the defence, going after him hard, getting under his skin and leaving him looking angry and rattled. So flustered, he made an unexpected personal appearance to try to spin his own verdict. I say the truth, and i lose votes or gain votes, i dont care, but this was my best debate, i thought i was very good. I thought she was very weak on foreign policy, she was very weak on the border. At the same time, a confident Harris Campaign immediately suggested a second debate next month. She wants it because she lost. Do you have an answer . I have to think about it, but if you won the debate, i sort of think maybe i shouldnt do it. Why should i do another debate . And we Will Win Post Debate celebrations in the Harris Camp were capped by a huge celebrity endorsement, as Taylor Swift declared, after watching that event, she will be voting for Kamala Harris. Sarah smith, bbc news, philadelphia. Well, lets find out what difference all that might make to the race in those crucial Swing States. Jon mchenry is Vice President of North Star Opinion research. Youre very welcome the programme. One senior republican i watched today, trey gaudi, a close ally to Donald Trump, said it was a land of missed opportunities for their candidate Last Night. When you associate his performance with the key issues that voters care about, where for you did he fail to hit the mark . A, for you did he fail to hit the mark . , mark . May be the most stunning thin last mark . May be the most stunning thing last Night Mark . May be the most stunning thing Last Night that mark . May be the most stunning thing Last Night that he thing Last Night that he fail to ever use the phrase fighting Harris Administration and closely tie her to many americans frustration with how the economy is doing, what they are seeing inflation, and what they are seeing on immigration. He talked a lot about immigration but not in and a coherent way. He never really said Vice President harrison going to lead the efforts on the border. Was not coherent enough to any punches. What about her . Enough to any punches. What about her . We enough to any punches. What about her . We talked enough to any punches. What about her . We talked about | enough to any punches. What about her . We talked about the 20 in the hole who said they wanted to know more about Kamala Harris. Did you do enoughin Kamala Harris. Did you do enough in your mind to introduce yourself to those voters Last Night 28 in the Siena Poll was back she certainly did not make any real stumbles. Certainly did not make any real stumbles stumbles. She throughout that tra for stumbles. She throughout that trap for him. Stumbles. She throughout that trap for him, crushing stumbles. She throughout that trap for him, crushing the trap for him, crushing the effectiveness of his rallies, and he was a thieving candidate after that point in the debate. Not the same candidate. She let him take over, let him get all his Talking Points and was able to sit back and be calm and not make any real fumbles over the course of the evening, so i think in that sense she might not have revealed much about herself, but she allayed some concerns she was not able to handle the pressure of a debate, certainly. Debate, certainly. From a democratic debate, certainly. From a democratic perspective, l debate, certainly. From a democratic perspective, reading the comments this afternoon, it would seem they had a better night than even the most optimistic among them could have hoped, but there is a word of warning, isnt there, that their candidate in 2016 Hillary Clinton probably won all three debates and yet still lost the General Election . Debates and yet still lost the General Election . Sure. And we will really General Election . Sure. And we will really see General Election . Sure. And we will really see the General Election . Sure. And we will really see the effect General Election . Sure. And we will really see the effect of will really see the effect of this debate over the course of the next week. We will not have particularly good scientific polling until a week from now, on the effect of the debate, but if she does not hit 50 or higher nationally, that suggest some trouble for her because democrats typically need to be above that point to win the electoral college. And we will see in the state likens a venue, where they are basically tied right now. Do they believe she is for fracking tied right now. Do they believe she is forfracking outward tied right now. Do they believe she is for fracking outward and they believe former President Trump that she opposes fracking . That should come out over the next week and those states, pennsylvania, georgia, north carolina, michigan, arizona, wisconsin, those are going to be really where we see the effect of this debate, because everything else is pretty well locked in. She is not going to lose california. She will be in new york, she Will Win illinois. Donald trump Will Win illinois. Donald trump Will Win illinois. Donald trump Will Win florida, ohio, texas, and its those six or seven Swing States including nevada that will really tell the tale. What about The Endorsement from Taylor Swift . Around 250 Million followers on instagram, many of them young women, but i cant imagine many of them were unaware of her support for Kamala Harris before this endorsement. What difference do you think it might make . Honestly, i dont know that it adds a single vote. I think the swifties are by and large going to be harris voters anyway and it seemed really strangely timed from the perspective of, if anything, the biggest Pop Superstar in the world announcing her endorsement on the day were Kamala Harris by Ella Const won the debate seems to step on the story. They couldve used that later in the week to sort of build the sense of momentum. It week to sort of build the sense of momentum. Week to sort of build the sense of momentum. It is interesting, the timing of momentum. It is interesting, the timing. We of momentum. It is interesting, the timing. We will of momentum. It is interesting, the timing. We will maybe of momentum. It is interesting, the timing. We will maybe put l the timing. We will maybe put that to our pendle little later. Just a final thought. A second debate . Some fight it might be on nbc the 25th Of September maybe something on fox. Who would benefit more from a second debate, do think . Any opportunity to give Kamala Harris a chance to slip up probably benefits Donald Trump. I cannot imagine he does and nbc debate. He is going to say, they will be as biased against me as abc was, and if nothing else, you can tell who won Social Media by who was company about the moderators, and when republicans are complaining about the moderators its usually not a good night for their candidate. If its on fox news, it probably benefits Donald Trump just because it gives him a second shot at it, and its Noppert Dingy for Kamala Harris to enter word salad land, where maybe she is not as sharp as i thought she was an opportunity. If i was her i think i was day away from the next debate. The next debate. Interesting, thanks for the next debate. Interesting, thanks for coming the next debate. Interesting, thanks for coming on. If you want to hear more analysis on the president ial debate, you can listen to a special episode of americast, which is available on bbc sounds now. Idid i did listen to it this morning. Its very good, sol would point you in that direction. In that debate, Donald Trump refused to answer whether he wanted ukraine to win the war, prompting Kamala Harris to warn the former president would abandon kyiv in order to curry favour with Russias President , vladimir putin. Lets hear some of that exchange. Do you believe its in the uss best interests for ukraine to win this war, yes or no . I think its the uss best interest to get this warfinished and just get it done. All right. Negotiate a deal, because we have to stop all of these Human Lives from being destroyed. I believe the reason that i believe the reason that Donald Trump says that this war Donald Trump says that this war would be over within 24 hours would be over within 24 hours is cos he would just is cos he would just give it up. Give it up. If Donald Trump were president , if Donald Trump were president , putin would be sitting putin would be sitting in kyiv right now. In kyiv right now. For now, the White House stands for now, the White House stands squarely behind ukraine. Squarely behind ukraine. And today the us Secretary And Today the us Secretary Of State Antony Blinken joined of state Antony Blinken joined british Counterpart David Lammy british Counterpart David Lammy on a visit to kyiv. On a visit to kyiv. The British Government has the British Government has duly announced that the uk duly announced that the uk will provide ukraine its work with its friends, will provide ukraine with a further £600 million of support. With a further £600 million of support. The bigger question, of course, the bigger question, of course, is whether they will cede is whether they will cede to ukrainians that they be to ukrainians that they be allowed to use the longer allowed to use the longer range missiles against range missiles against targets inside russia. Targets inside russia. Mr lammy told the bbc that Mr Lammy told the bbc that irans recent decision irans recent decision to supply russia with to supply russia with ballistic missiles had changed the debate. Ballistic missiles had changed the debate. Were seeing russia amplify and weve seen this horrendous transfer of ballistic missiles from iran to russia over the last few days. Weve sanctioned further the russian shadow fleet. Today, my Colleaguejohn Healey has announced more ammunition, more armoured vehicles, more support to Ukraines Victory Effort at this time. Military effort at this time. And were here to listen, and thats why im here with tony blinken. On friday, Sir Keir Starmer will Visit Washington to discuss the issue with president biden. Heres the Secretary Of State speaking in kyiv a short time ago. We remain fully committed to Ukraines Victory to not only ensuring that ukraine can defend itself today, but can stand on its own feet strongly, militarily, economically, democratically for many, many days ahead, to securing the path a visit civilians. Having such a visit especially as we are talking about getting ukraine the permission to hit russia back, the rate for Self Defence against russia, for cities, i am personally from kharkiv, information is a big imports we dont allow russia to operate the Litter Operations near the ukrainian border, so the further we push them from the ukrainian border, the more chances for the lasting peace we have. , we have. David lamb he said there that we have. David lamb he said there that they we have. David lamb he said there that they were we have. David lamb he said there that they were in we have. David lamb he said there that they were in kyiv. We have. David lamb he said. There that they were in kyiv to listen, to understand the plan. What your mind with these longer range missiles be used for and what sort of targets does president zelensky have in mind . In does president zelensky have in mind . A, �. , mind . In may, if im not mistaken. Mind . In may, if im not mistaken, some mind . In may, if im not mistaken, some restrictions were lifted. So this pushed some military objects of russia further from the russian border. This means that we have more time to see what is flying time to see what is more time to see what is flying towards ukraine, when we speak towards ukraine, when we speak about the air strike alarm, about the air strike alarm, which is usually hitting which is usually hitting civilian objects here in civilian objects here in ukraine. For us, as seen with ukraine. For us, as seen with ukrainians and its own drones, ukrainians and its own drones, it is using some kind of it is using some kind of western military equipment, western military equipment, there were no civilian there were no civilian casualties. There were no civilian casualties. There were no civilian casualties. , casualties. He further and further you casualties. He further and casualties. , casualties. He further and further you casualties. He further and further you push casualties. 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Also, it allows us to continue our military us to continue our Military Operations near the border, and operations near the border, and what is most important is what is most important is distracting the russian distracting the russian logistics near the front line. Logistics near the front line. The concern, of course, is that the concern, of course, is that it would lead to a further it would lead to a further escalation, moscow said today escalation, moscow said today the response to any change the response to any change would be appropriate, and would be appropriate, and previously they said it could previously they said it could lead to very serious problems lead to very serious problems with some in washington fearing with some in washington fearing that might mean nuclear that might mean nuclear weapons. How would you respond weapons. How would you respond to that concern . For to that concern . For weapons. How would you respond weapons. How would you respond to that concern . To that concern . And a half years, and a half years, weve heard the word escalation, redline. The first time we talked about, giving ukraine artillery, or high mars, that was redlines. Then ukraine crossed yet another redline of, poutine, we actually attacked russia in the region of cursk. The war has been an escalation for tuitt a half years which means russia has already crossed all the possible lives by hitting civilians, by Committing Hundreds Of Thousands of War Crimes here in ukraine, and we dont think, youre not afraid here in ukraine of any escalation because we just want to achieve this piece, the lasting peace we are fighting for, and hope you will support us in this fight. Just for, and hope you will support us in this fight. Us in this fight. Just very quickly. Us in this fight. Just very quickly, what us in this fight. Just very quickly, what did us in this fight. Just very quickly, what did you. Us in this fight. Just very i quickly, what did you make us in this fight. Just very quickly, what did you make of Donald Trumps answer Last Night as to whether he wants ukraine to win . Its night as to whether he wants ukraine to win . Night as to whether he wants ukraine to win . Its really, we are following ukraine to win . Its really, we are following the ukraine to win . Its really, we are following the news, ukraine to win . Its really, we are following the news, many| are following the news, many people have watched the debates. My Social Media was david the Uk Economy flatlined in july for the second month in a row, according to the officialfigures. Manufacturing and construction declined, services spurred on by a busy summer of sport the only part of the economy to record some growth. The Chancellor Rachel reeves said next Months Budget will involve difficult decisions on tax, spending and welfare. Heres our economics editor, faisal islam. The british economy was supposed to have been boosted by a Consumer Spending Spree around summers sporting success, such as at the euros football. Todays figures, though, and the experience of players at this seven a Side League in manchester, is that the recovery is pretty fragile. I wouldnt say the cost of living crisis is over. I guess were in a period of change, though, with the government changing. Food prices went up insanely during Covid And Theyve never come back down again. And so were still getting Price Gouged for, like, day to day groceries. And paying more tax doesnt fix that. All the taxes and everything, i i feel like maybe they could be directed to people that are more well off because, you know, were struggling already. In northamptonshire, at a technical college next to the silverstone Grand Prix track, the chancellor was hailing an £8 billion Data Centre Investment from tech giant amazon, but defended her decision to scrap universal Winter Fuel payments. Weve had to take difficult decisions to get a grip of the public finances. These werent decisions that we wanted or expected to make. But in the circumstances that we faced, they were the right decisions to get our public finances back on a firmerfooting. When the conservatives wanted to do this in 2017, they put it in the manifesto. You didnt choose to be clear, to level with the british people, that this was an option, even. In our manifesto was a commitment to the Triple Lock, and the Triple Lock means that pensions, not means tested, but the new State Pension is worth £900 more this winter than it was a year ago. The new State Pension is expected to go up by another £a60 next april. The chancellor wants to prepare the public for the further pain in the budget, and to be able to blame that on the previous government. And yet, at the same time, she wants international investors like amazon to hear a message of optimism and confidence about the british economy, to carry on investing billions of pounds. That is a tricky dual message to pull off. Back in manchester, in some of the City Centre developments hit by years of lockdown and inflation, consumers are out spending in earnest. I think its not that people have stopped wanting to go out. I thinkjust the landscape has changed, the economic landscape, the decisions that people are making when they do choose to go out. The action packed summer of sport was an absolute however, the action packed summer of sport was an absolute brilliant boost, i think, for us. And im sure it has been for all of the venues similar to ours. With interest rates falling, the hope was that businesses and households would confidently invest in an economy that had definitively turned the corner. Thats no longer certain. Carmack thanks to faisal with that. The new Labour Government has announced today it will spend £500 million to support the closure of the old Blast Furnaces at the Steel Plant in Port Talbot and the transition to new electric arc technology. It will eventually be a cleaner way of producing steel but not suitable for making virgin steel. These new furnaces are much better suited to recycling. And what that will mean in the interim is 2,500 Job Losses now, with a further 300 expected to be made redundant in the future. The Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds acknowledged that the package falls short of what would be his ideal, but he said the Labour Government had secured better terms than the last Conservative Governement for those losing theirjobs. Where we cannot secure newjobs or training, working closely with the unions, i can tell the house that weve helped to secure improved terms on redundancies. Tatas employees are now able to express an interest in the most generous voluntary Redundancy Package the company has ever offered for a restructuring of this size. Employees will now be paid 2. 8 weeks of earnings for each year of service, up to a maximum of 25 years. Lets talk to the Senior Organiser for the gmb union, tom hoyles. Good evening to you, tom. 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Theres a whole Set Ofl Decommissioning that needs to take take place, there is a whole place, there is a whole consultation about what Jobs Consultation about what jobs will come in whichjobs will come in whichJobs Consultation about what jobs will come in which jobs will consultation about what jobs will come in which jobs will go. A whole lot of work to get go. A whole lot of work to get under way over the next few under way over the next few weeks. We will be honest with weeks. We will be honest with you to say it was not. This you to say it was not. This was not the ideal result for was not the ideal result for the unions, i will say that. The unions, i will say that. Tenuous plane back to us . The tenuous plane back to us . The Labour Mp had argued in Labour Mp had argued in opposition they wanted more opposition they wanted more support and a blend of primary support and a blend of Primary Iron is still making iron is still making capability . Nothing like that capability . 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That being said, there is a serious question for there is a serious question for the British Government which is, what is the plan moving forward in terms of this . What we do not want to see is more jobs being all shored to countries abroad, due to this. , � , countries abroad, due to this. , v. , countries abroad, due to this. � ,. , this. Thats a really important this. Thats a really important point, this. Thats a really important point, because this broader issue here about decarbonisation, transition to cleaner manufacturing, we were told by several governments, not just the told by several governments, notjust the uk government, that during the Transition Thousands Ofjobs would be created. Where is the Industrial Strategy that guarantees that . Industrial strategy that uuarantees that . ~ , guarantees that . Absolutely, there needs guarantees that . Absolutely, there needs to guarantees that . Absolutely, there needs to be guarantees that . Absolutely, there needs to be one. Guarantees that . Absolutely, there needs to be one. That i guarantees that . Absolutely, | there needs to be one. That is there needs to be one. That is the truth there needs to be one. That is the t is, there needs to be one. That is thet is, any there needs to be one. That is the t is, any industry that is truth is, any industry that is carbon intensive will be facing this. We look forward to working with this government. The difference with this one and thus what is this ones is our open and actually try to tackle the problem. Our open and actually try to tackle the problem. Tom, good to talk to you. Tackle the problem. Tom, good to talk to you, thank tackle the problem. Tom, good to talk to you, thank you tackle the problem. Tom, good to talk to you, thank you for i to talk to you, thank you for coming on the programme. Well take a short break. The other side of that Break Dig into that Tv Debate Last Night. Also we will talk about the social Media Band that might be coming in for teenagers in australia. Hello there. Things should get a little bit warmer over the weekend, but right now, its still cold out there. Weve seen a lot of showers earlier on today, some dramatic Weather Watcher pictures. It took a while for the showers to push down into more southern counties of england, and here we saw the best of the sunshine. The showers have been heavy. Weve had some hail in there as well, and we still have this very showery Air Stream with low pressure between us and scandinavia. Weve got a northwesterly wind here, but the winds originating perhaps as far north as the arctic circle, which is giving us the chill. And as those winds do become lighter overnight and skies tend to clear, the temperatures are going to drop quite quickly, the showers retreating back to exposed coastal areas. So, for many of us, it will be dry and clear and probably a little bit colder than Last Night. Typically four or five degrees, but maybe close to freezing in scotland and also for northern england. A sunny start for many showers to begin with for Northern Ireland, wales, the far southwest, Northern Scotland and down those North Sea coasts. And as temperatures rise just a little, so the cloud will build up and well see showers developing inland as well. Not as many, not as heavy as weve seen today, and the winds still northwesterly, but not quite as strong. It doesnt really help the temperatures, mind you still 13 15 degrees below average for this time of the year. Weve got the cold air in place and before this Weather Front tracks in from the atlantic, this nose of High Pressure will build across on Thursday Night and friday morning, killing off the showers, making the winds very light and with clear skies. This could be the coldest night of the week. Early friday could start with a frost in some places, particularly for scotland and Northern Ireland. Sunny start for many, but clouds will increase through the day. Were going to find that Weather Front bringing some rain into Northern Ireland, and then later in the day, into Western Parts of scotland, should be dry for england and wales and temperatures a little bit higher here by friday, still pretty cold out there for scotland and Northern Ireland after that potentially frosty start over the weekend, High Pressure in the south, low pressure to the north. Itll bring some wet and windy weather into northern areas on saturday and as that Weather Front moves south, its just going to weaken all the while. So, scotland and Northern Ireland will see those winds do become wider overnight and temperatures are going some wetter, windy weather on saturday. The weather will be improved by sunday. Further south, little or no rain for england and wales, but for all of us, temperatures are going to be higher. Hello, im christian fraser. Youre watching the context on bbc news. Australia the context on bbc news. Is taking the lead on Social Australia is taking the lead on Social Media by proposing to ban children from using it with a minimum age limit of his high as 16. We will get the opposing views on whether it will work. Before all of that lets get some support with will perry. Hello, well. Englands cricketers will need 180 to win the First T20 International Against Australia at the Utilita Bowl in southampton. At 118 2 in the tenth over, the england bowlers impressed late on, with Liam Livingstone taking 3 22. Jofra archa and Saqib Mahmood both picked up two. Australia opener travis head top scored with 59. Its the first of three t20s, with cardiff and Old Trafford to come. England just about to get their endings under way. Ireland came through a chaotic Batting Collapse to earn a consolation three Wicket Victory in the rain affected third and final one day international, their first win over england in the format since 2001. With eight needed from the final over, ireland lost three wickets in three balls to leave four runs required from the last ball, from which Alana Dalzell struck