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Of the election campaign. 00 01 01,354 2147483051 37 15,392 the pair sparred over 2147483051 37 15,392 4294966103 13 29,429 immigration, abortion shes a marxist. Everybody knows shes a marxist. People start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. But soon they got on to issues such as immigration, a key concern for voters and one that could be a strength for the former president , though he chose to focus on unsubstantiated claims about migrants eating peoples pets. In springfield, theyre eating the dogs. The people that came in, theyre eating the cats. Theyre eating. The Vice President could scarcely contain herself. Of the people that live there. Moderators attempted to Fact Check the former president on several occasions during the debate. Abc news did reach out to the City Manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific claims of pets being harmed, injured or abused by individuals within the immigrant community. Well, ive seen people on television. Let me just say here, this is the. People on television say my dog was taken and used for food. He had this to say on the contentious issue of abortion. Will she allow abortion in the eighth month . Ninth month . Seventh month . Come on. 0k. Would you do that . The economy was always going to be a hugely important issue. Its what most americans really care about. She is biden. You know, shes trying to get away from biden. I dont know that. And Donald Trump attempted to tie Kamala Harris to her boss. Worst Inflation Weve ever had. The Vice President talked about her economic plans, but not perhaps as much as her supporters would have liked. On international affairs, though, she was scathing. World leaders are laughing at Donald Trump. I have talked with military leaders, some of whom worked with you, and they say youre a disgrace. Apologies to leave that so quickly, but lets continue with what we saw in that tv debate. Shes a republican voter from the Swing State of georgia. Garrett readling is a Democrat Voter from the Swing State of north carolina. And from lincoln in new hampshire, im also joined by felicity felgate, shes previously voted both republican and for the democrats but is curently undecided. A headLine thought on all of you from laughter � s debate. Whom do you think One Max last night . I s debate. Whom do you think One Max last night . One max last night . I think Vice President One Max last night . I think Vice President harris One Max last night . I think Vice President harris did i One Max last night . I think Vice President harris did a| Vice President harris did a good job last night, i think she commanded the stage and clearly laid out her vision for the future of our country, and it was a vision that includes everyone that takes us forward. In contrast, Donald Trump seemed pretty rattled and painted a pretty bleak picture for what he would do if given another term. 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I will come back to things, to be honest. I will come back to perhaps things, to be honest. I will. Come back to perhaps some of those areas in a moment, but a lot of the analysis when you read it suggests that a Donald Trump fell into the many traps laid by Kamala Harris, around the size of his rallies and all of that, and he had been angry and defensive. Did you see it that way . I and defensive. Did you see it that way . And defensive. Did you see it that wa . , ~ that way . I did not. One week before his that way . I did not. One week before his last that way . I did not. One week before his last rally that way . I did not. One week before his last rally in before his last rally in atlanta, Kamala Harris was here and had atlanta, Kamala Harris was here and had to atlanta, Kamala Harris was here and had to host a concert. Silence silence apologies, that Line has a frozen. We will try to reconnect. 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Mr blinken said the two nations stood shoulder to shoulder in the support of ukraine and the visit showed their commitment to helping defeat the russian invasion. Ukraine wants their permission to use american and british supplied long range missiles for strikes deep inside russian territory, a subject thats expected to be a key focus of talks. In recent days, ukraine has been stepping up its Drone Assault on russia, including the capital, moscow. But talk of more powerful weapons has sparked concern by russian leaders. State media reports the deputy foreign saying russia will destroy any new deliveries of long range missiles to ukraine by the united states and any delivery would increase the dangers and risks. Lets speak to former ukrainian diplomat iuliia osmolovska, shes currently an Executive Director at the eastern Europe Security Institute based in kyiv. Welcome to the programme. Just how significant is this jOint Visit to kyiv . It how significant is this Oint Visit to kymi how significant is this Oint Visit to kyiv . It is definitely significant. Visit to kyiv . It is definitely significant, because visit to kyiv . It is definitely significant, because we visit to kyiv . It is definitely l significant, because we have always been considering the uk and us being our strongest allies and supporting us in this current full Scale Invasion by russia into ukraine. So definitely the jOint Visit manifests the potential coordinated approach to further decisions are especially strategic ones, that should be taken in the coming days and which ukraine desperately needs. So definitely we are looking forward to the outcomes of this visit and these talks. Is forward to the outcomes of this visit and these talks. Visit and these talks. Is there a Feelin Visit and these talks. Is there a feeling there visit and these talks. Is there a feeling there that visit and these talks. Is there a feeling there that there visit and these talks. Is there a feeling there that there is l a feeling there that there is any movement on that basic request to be able to use these western weapons to strike targets inside russia . I western weapons to strike targets inside russia . I hope that the ukrainian targets inside russia . I hope that the ukrainian side targets inside russia . I hope that the Ukrainian Side Will. That the Ukrainian Side Will provide more extensive arguments about why it is essential right now to have this permission. And also we are cautiously optimistic in view of the recent remarks that a decision is still being worked out. So definitely i think that i would label this visit is a high ranking field visit, because both State Secretaries will report to their Heads Of State afterwards. Equipping them with relevant information before Keir Starmer Dojoe Biden Meet Keir starmer do Joe Biden meet this Keir Starmer Dojoe biden meet this friday. 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Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. The Uk Government has announced a Public Inquiry into one of the most controversial murders during the Northern Ireland troubles. The prominent human Rights Lawyer Pat Finucane was shot dead by Loyalist Paramilitaries in belfast in 1989 while having dinner with his wife and children. Previous investigations have found there was evidence of State Collusion in the killing. His family has been campaigning for decades for a Public Inquiry. Irelands prime minister Simon Harris said the announcement signalled a new approach by the Uk Government to Legacy Issues in Northern Ireland. 0ur Ireland Correspondent Sara Girvin has this update. And Mr Finucane, a solicitor, was shot dead in his own home in belfast in 1989 by the loyalist paramilitary group, the ulster defence association, the uda. They shot him ilt times in front of his wife and his children. He was 39 years old when he was killed. Now, the uda did claim that Mr Finucane was a member of the ira, Something A Claim Finucane was a member of the ira, something, a claim that was rejected by police. And this has been going on for a long time. The Build Up to this Public Inquiry. Back in 2012, the then prime minister, david cameron, apologised for State Collusion in the murder. Fast forward many years to this current labour government, and theyve been facing a decision about whether or not to hold a Public Inquiry into the killing. Thats followed years of legal action by Mr Finucanes widow, geraldine finucane. This announcement comes after a 35 Year Campaign by the family. In that time, there have been various reports and investigations, legal action, broken promises, its fair to say, but never a Public Inquiry. And as you say, just in the past few moments, weve heard from the northern Ireland Secretary for state, hilary benn, who said that the exceptional reason of outstanding and unfulfilled commitments by previous governments to establish a Public Inquiry in this Murder Case meant that it should now succeed to proceed. Case meant that it should now succeed. Proceed. He said he hoped for transparency and that it would provide the answers to the Finucane Family that they have been waiting for so long for both answers around the killing, and they want answers about the level of State Collusion involved. A man who was found guilty of murder in 1991 has had his conviction quashed. Judges at the Court Of Appeal ruled oliver Campbells Conviction for the murder of Baldev Hoondle in hackney was unsafe. Our home editor, mark easton, has been giving more information about the background to todays ruling. Ill say this is not one of those cases about an innocent man deemed to have been stitched up by the criminaljustice system. Indeed, the Court Of Appeal made it clear that they gave very little weight and dismissed suggestions that police deliberately misled and bullied Mr Campbell in order to obtain a false confession. However, they did quash the conviction on what they described as a narrow but very important basis. Now, Mr Campbell suffered severe Brain Damage as an eight month old baby and continues to struggle with memory, with concentration and with retaining information. And what the Court Of Appeal is saying is that there has been fresh scientific evidence which shows that someone with just such a Mental Impairment would have potentially meant the jury considering the reliability of that confession in a materially different context. And thejudges also, it should be noted, decLined to order a retrial on the basis that Mr Campbell has already served a decade in prison and could not get a fair trial because of his serious handicap. Mark easton. Healthcare workers in the democratic republic of congo, who are at the front Line of the Mpox Outbreak in the east of the country, have told the bbc they are desperate. Our team was given rare access to an Mpox Treatment Centre in south kivu, the worst affected region in the world. Infections are rising there, but medical staff there say they have no information about when theyll get vaccines. Theyre also running out of supplies and are demotivated. Simijolaosho reports. As the number of infections rise, the age of the patients gets younger. This child is the youngest Mpox Case at Lwiros Community Hospital at only four weeks old. Its an agonising ordeal for first time mother faraja. Translation its sad to see my firstborn suffering from this strange disease. I have a lot of pain in my heart. Its a very bad and dangerous disease. The cries of babies are resounding here. Many are malnourished. As babies pass on the disease to their parents, there is fear of a new wave of infections. This is the first time many here have encountered mpox. Ijust saw the child get sick. I didnt even know the name of the disease. We Cant Sit and wait for the children, and even adults, to die. Bring on the vaccines. Just over three weeks ago, this hospital was used to treat all sorts of diseases and conditions, and they used to get around 80 patients a month. But the outbreak got so bad here they had to convert it into an mpox only treatment centre. And within three weeks, theyve had nearly 200 patients. Remaining motivated is difficult for nurses like emmanuel, who has worked here for four years. Every day, he fears catching and Passing Mpox on his own children, who are only seven, five, and one. Its a sentiment shared by his colleague. Translation you will see that the patients i are sleeping on the floor. There is still no staff motivation. Personal protective equipment, there isnt enough of it. We try to do what we can to look after the sick and not to put ourselves at risk either. This region of the Dr Congo has experienced a battle of control over its mineral rich land for nearly 30 years. Over its mineral rich land for nearly 30 years. The government says it is doing its best to get medics what they need and the vaccines are coming, but the conflict is making things harder. Translation because of war, we have over Five Million people who are displaced. The disease can be controlled by good sanitation and good living conditions. Now that people are in camps, the spread will be dangerous. The dedication of the staff at this Mpox Treatment Centre has ensured there have been no deaths here. They have vowed to keep showing up, despite the bleakness of what lies ahead. Simijoloaso, bbc news, south kivu. Remembrance events are taking place in the us to mark the 23rd anniversary of the September 11th attacks in which nearly 3,000 people died. These are the pictures from new york, where president ial campaigning was paused, with both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris taking part in a Memorial Service in the Memorial Plaza at ground zero. Also there were president biden and Donald Trumps running mate, jd vance. You always have this ready moving moment, it goes on for such a long time, because, one by one, the read out the victims� names. By one, the read out the victims names. By one, the read out the victims names. , victims names. Gaffer roy, the nova, victims names. Gaffer roy, the nova. Sherry hello there. Its been very wet today here in merseyside and through the cheshire plains. Frequent and heavy showers have been blown in. Weve got low pressure between us and scandinavia, and thats feeding in this very showery air stream, cold and gusty northwesterly winds. But you can trace the winds all the way back to the north towards the arctic circle, which is why weve got temperatures this afternoon around 3 or it degrees below the average for the time of year. And in the southeast of england, its quite a bit chillier than it was during yesterday. The winds arent quite as strong today. Theres still some strong and gusty northwesterly winds, especially where we have the showers, and there will be more showers through the afternoon and into the evening. But overnight, as the Winds Drop and it gets a bit colder, the showers retreat back towards windward coasts and many places will become dry and clear. And of course its going to be cold as well. Temperatures maybe a little lower than they were last night, and not farfrom freezing in Scotland And North east england, but many places will start quite sunny. Weve got the showers from the word go in northern scotland, Northern Ireland into wales, perhaps the far southwest and along North Sea coasts. There will be showers developing inland during the day. Probably not quite as many as today. Not as heavy as today either, and the winds wont be as strong too. But those temperatures arent changing very much just yet. 13 to 15 degrees once again. So, weve got Cold Air in place. And ahead of this Weather Front coming in from the atlantic, High Pressure will build across the uk on Thursday Night into friday morning, meaning the winds will be lighter, skies will be clear and temperatures will be close to freezing for many parts of the country. There is a risk of a touch of frost. And weve got a sunny start for many places on friday, but there is that Weather Front coming in from the atlantic that will bring in more cloud. It will bring some rain to Northern Ireland and western scotland. And with that cloud coming in over the cold start, temperatures arent going to rise too high. But it will be a little less cold for england and wales. Here weve got higher pressure as we head towards the weekend. This Weather Front will move down across the country. As it does so, it will tend to weaken. But i think on saturday for Scotland And Northern ireland, weve got a spell of wetter and windier weather before things improve for the second half of the weekend. But very little if any rain coming into england and wales. And for all of us, the temperatures will be higher than at the moment