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I cant give a timeline, because theres a number of outstanding ways to which we will have to see, whether thats through tightening up legislation, whether thats around the legal framework about how we can get these companies and these these building owners. Weve got thousands of people, Hundreds Of Thousands in the Cladding Scandal Campaign statement yesterday, still living in homes with the same risks in grenfell seven years ago. They are looking to you as the deputy prime minister, the Housing Secretary, to say when by, to put a deadline there. Which is why my Remediation Acceleration Plan is about how i can speed up that process. Leon, 330,000 People Cant sell their flats until the cladding is removed, unless they can find Cash Buyers in limbo. There are people living in fear of the cladding outside their apartment. Surely, with six years of inquiry and £11 billion there to deal with the problem, we could set a deadline. Problem, we could set a deadline. , �. ,. , deadline. Youd have thought so, i think deadline. Youd have thought so, i think this deadline. Youd have thought so, i think this is deadline. Youd have thought so, i think this is the deadline. Youd have thought so, i think this is the type deadline. Youd have thought so, i think this is the type of| so, i think this is the type of issue where it impacts peoples lives in a very real way whether thats financially because they Cant Move on or theyre living in a risky building. Ithink theyre living in a risky building. I think the government not this government, really the last government has to take the can for the reason why theres been a delay in getting this deadline in place and making sure we were further along than we should be. I do think Angela Rayner is right in this incident and i could see shes frustrated because she wants to move forward and quicker. But its difficult because the amount of money is going to cost, the amount of properties that need to have that were carried out. It is a big task and i think it should be a priority for the government and for Angela Rayner� s department. I think what a lot of people are frustrated by, jess, is the inertia they see notjust in the wake of this inquiry, but several inquiries that weve had into covid, the infected blood scandal. Inability for regulators, for industry to get together and solve the problem for people. Is that a problem for people. Is that a problem for governments in a lot of countries right now . Certainly governments countries right now . Certainly governments all countries right now . Certainly governments all across countries right now . Certainly governments all across the governments all across the world, governments all across the world, certainly here in the us. World, certainly here in the us, are world, certainly here in the us, are not working as they should us, are not working as they should or us, are not working as they should or as innovatively, creatively. Theyre gridlocked by small creatively. Theyre gridlocked by small politics that slows things by small politics that slows things down, big politics and really. Things down, big politics and really, government is supposed to be really, government is supposed to be for really, government is supposed to be for the people. Thats what to be for the people. Thats what we to be for the people. Thats what we need to be focused on. There what we need to be focused on. There is what we need to be focused on. There is no what we need to be focused on. There is no question that peorrle there is no question that people have a right to be frustrated and weve got to figure frustrated and weve got to figure out in all of our communities how to do better. One thing communities how to do better. One thing that the Housing Secretary said is there need to be more power to the regulator, more independence. Anyone whos read that report knows that to be true, but at the same time, the government has committed to building 300,000 new homes a year and theyre already behind that target. It was the own rules of the government that led to these targets being missed. Its a difficult situation because i think in the wake of this report yesterday, theres going to be much greater focus in the rules around construction industry. And we elect politics to make those difficult decisions. How do you encourage an industry to build, build, build, while also lapping new regulation . But i think that is required and i dont think the industry necessarily or pushing back on that. Its what that Legislation And Regulation looks like. Is it going to be prohibited to meet those targets or will it be enough to make sure that these houses are built safely, securely and in a way that meets the countrys demands . Its a Balancing Act and i think i need to see government to work together so It Works for everyone. It works for everyone. Theres a big crossover, It Works for everyone. Theres a big crossover, jess. It works for everyone. Theres a big crossover, jess. Kamala| a big crossover, jess. Kamala harris have been setting off her hands for house building. Shes offering new buyers 25,000 in a grant towards the purchase price. Is that the right thing to do . Because there will be some people out there will be some people out there who cant afford to pay for housing, so if they dont get on the housing ladder, are they denied the 25,000 . I they denied the 25,000 . I think theres a couple of things think theres a couple of things here. The grant youre talking things here. The grant youre talking about is 25,000 for first time home buyers, also meant first time home buyers, also meant to first time home buyers, also meant to help support first generation families here as weii~ first generation families here as well. When you look at the cost as well. When you look at the cost of as well. When you look at the cost of housing in the us, the median cost of housing in the us, the median price of a home now is over median price of a home now is over 500,000. 40 years ago, it was 75,000. I think we have to Talk About was 75,000. I think we have to Talk About these policies and whats Talk About these policies and whats happening for people in real time. The second issue with real time. The second issue with housing here in the united states with housing here in the united states and probably in many other states and probably in many other places as well is we have these other places as well is we have these major investors who are coming these major investors who are coming into communities, jackihg coming into communities, jacking up the prices and builders as well. Some of these Rental Builders as well. Some of these Rental Companies and things like that. They are pricing out working like that. They are pricing out working middle class families in the working middle class families in the united states. Cash and this unfair in the united states. Cash and this unfair competition are two things this unfair competition are two things they are trying to tackle things they are trying to tackle with some additional Cash Tackle with some additional cash to tackle with some additional cash to get americans into Homes Cash to get americans into homes and get them started. I think homes and get them started. I think when you look at the context think when you look at the context of pricing, this is still context of pricing, this is stiiiiust context of pricing, this is stilljust A Drop in the bucket, but it is a nod to the fact bucket, but it is a nod to the fact that bucket, but it is a nod to the fact that weve got to do better fact that weve got to do better here in the united states better here in the united states. 0ne better here in the united states. One in five americans has struggled in some way in their has struggled in some way in their lifetime with homelessness, so we have a big problem homelessness, so we have a big problem that we have to resolve, and i think these steps resolve, and i think these steps are very positive. The government steps are very positive. The government in steps are very positive. The government in this steps are very positive. Tie government in this country historically have tried to help people get on the ladder. There was the right to buy scheme but they didnt replace the Social Housing that was being depleted by people buying their own homes. Angela rayner said she would stop that, even though she benefited from it herself, she benefited from it herself, she bought her own home. Its a difficult balance when you stimulate the market. Youve got to also prevent the rental market, and thats not been done historically. Done historically. Yeah, the bi. Done historically. Yeah, the big problem done historically. Yeah, the big problem with done historically. Yeah, the big problem with housing i done historically. Yeah, the big problem with housing in this country is we dont build enough. It really is as simple as that. ,. , ,. As that. From our perspective, its not about as that. From our perspective, its not about stimulating its not about stimulating demand . Thats not going to solve the problem in the uk . Know, the demand is there, it isjust an issue know, the demand is there, it is just an issue with supply. If you were to give grants, all that would do would heat the market even further. I think with schemes like right to buy, we Talk About social mobility vs, we Talk About social mobility � s, and i think people are able to get onto the Property Letter and make that part of the ports of portfolio. But and make that part of the ports of portfoli0 of portfolio. But do you have to of portfolio. But do you have to do of portfolio. But do you have to do that of portfolio. But do you have to do that through i have to do that through homeownership, or can you give somebody a Baby Bond . The Labour Government did try that. In fact, my first daughter got a baby going. Got a in fact, my first daughter got a baby going. Gota Baby Bond. She will use that one day, i guess. Wouldnt that be a better way to stimulate gross . Crosstalk i think its a good thing. Listen, i think there a lot of Fihahciai listen, i think there a lot of financial incentives. I think some financial incentives. I think some of financial incentives. I think some of this is cultural, too. Part some of this is cultural, too. Part of some of this is cultural, too. Part of the some of this is cultural, too. Part of The American Dream is homeownership, and its a really homeownership, and its a really important bedrock here in the really important bedrock here in the united states that most families in the united states that most families are striving for. Many of us families are striving for. Many of us have families are striving for. Many of us have gone through rentals and wiii of us have gone through rentals and will go through until in our and will go through until in our lifecycles, but homeownership is an important Cutturat Homeownership is an important cultural cornerstone for people in this cultural cornerstone for people in this country. Having an opportunity to do that. We do have opportunity to do that. We do have people building everywhere. We have lots of places everywhere. We have lots of places where Theres Housing coming places where Theres Housing coming up, but they cant get in because major investors are taking in because major investors are taking over this space and theres taking over this space and theres no way to get in and theres theres no way to get in and theres a theres no way to get in and theres a cache problem. Wages have theres a cache problem. Wages have hot theres a cache problem. Wages have not nearly kept pace with the cost have not nearly kept pace with the cost. Those are issues we are trying the cost. Those are issues we are trying to get underneath. Some are trying to get underneath. Some of are trying to get underneath. Some of those crossing over here as well. Four in ten universities here in the uk operate at a loss. Some of them now in an extremely precarious position. The sector was sounding the alarm again today the president of Universities Uk, professor sally mapstone, telling a conference the sector is at A Fork In The Road and will Slide Into Decline without action to sort out their finances. In england and wales, the cost is borne predominantly by the students in scotland, it is borne by the state. At a conference today, Universities Uk said they could not continue to do more with less. We felt that a reasonable place to anchor the domestic undergraduate face is a time when British Universities could teach undergraduates with research informed teaching. Could teach undergraduates with research informed teaching without being in deficit. And if we look back the track data less than perfect, i the best we have i go back to 2015 2016. And if you take that as the Evidence Break even amount progressive today, is between 12 13,000, dependent on your assumptions. Leon, The New Skills Minister Baroness smith said she hadnt beenin Baroness Smith said she hadnt been in thejob Baroness Smith said she hadnt been in the job an hour before people were outlining to her the financial peril the sector faces. 0ne the financial peril the sector faces. One of the reasons is because Tuition Fees have not beenindex because Tuition Fees have not been index length, but there are a lot of families who cant afford the fees now. Where do you find a solution to this . Are reloading it on students or do we have to find a different way . T do we have to find a different wa . ~. Do we have to find a different wa . ~. ,. ,. ,. , ~ do we have to find a different wa . ~. ,. ,. , way . I think we have to look at the way the way . I think we have to look at the way the University Way . I think we have to look at the way the university is the way the university is structured because i think were in a position where a number of universities have found a stick reputation, have amazing facilities and are incredibly expensive to run. Weve got cities with multiple universities, and there could often be an option to provide better value to students to the taxpayer and others. We have to be conscience in the uk. 0ne be conscience in the uk. One thing we do explore is education and we have people coming from All Over The World coming from All Over The World coming to the country to study British Universities. I think if we make it harderfor British Universities. I think if we make it harder for those foreign students, were creating a roster of our own bag and difficulties for those universities. Bag and difficulties for those universities. Universities. Important for their communities universities. Important for their communities because l their communities because universities are fire starters. They tend to drive innovation in local areas. In some respects, you cant let them go to the wall even if they are inefficient. Inefficient. This is an important inefficient. This is an | important investment inefficient. This is an i important investment in culture, important investment in culture, and community and the future culture, and community and the future. Public education and private future. Public education and private education all of these private education all of these offerings are important for creating the workers, the talent for creating the workers, the talent thats going to be needed for the modern problems and challenges that we face as and challenges that we face as a global and challenges that we face as a global community. But and challenges that we face as a global community. A global community. But there are only really a global community. But there are only really three a global community. But there are only really three levers are only really three levers you can pull the student or the state you can play who can pay, but we dont want to get in a situation that you have in the united states with a lifetime of debt. A lifetime of debt. Right. We have a huge a lifetime of debt. Right. We have a huge problem a lifetime of debt. Right. We have a huge problem right i a lifetime of debt. Right. We i have a huge problem right now. If have a huge problem right now. If you have a huge problem right now. If you want to go to an ihstate if you want to go to an in state college, its over 100,000. If you go out of state 100,000. If you go out of state and you want to see different parts of the Country And Experience different people, its going to be double that people, its going to be double that. That level of Student Debt that. That level of Student Debt is that. That level of Student Debt is another issue that we have debt is another issue that we have here which is preventing some have here which is preventing some of have here which is preventing some of that homeownership. I think some of that homeownership. I think it some of that homeownership. I think it has to be a public private partnership, and ithink public private partnership, and i think corporations and businesses, to your guests point, businesses, to your guests point, theres a vested interest point, theres a vested interest in ensuring there is a Group Interest in ensuring there is a group Of Interest in ensuring there is a group of people who can continue to learn and grow and have continue to learn and grow and have exchange of ideas. But it has to have exchange of ideas. But it has to be have exchange of ideas. But it has to be public and private partnerships. Has to be public and private partnerships has to be public and private partnerships. Half of them i said going partnerships. Half of them i said going to partnerships. Half of them i said going to the partnerships. Half of them i said going to the wall, i partnerships. Half of them i said going to the wall, half| partnerships. Half of them i i said going to the wall, half of them are finding a way. Clearly there does need to be more efficiencies and more cuts on certain courses. 0r efficiencies and more cuts on certain courses. Or do not think that should be the case . Do you think they should offering whatever the promise . Im torn because i think university offers a lot more than just the degree that youve got on a piece of paper at The End of three years. Its valuable Social Skills and life skills. But there is a fair argument that would say unless youre going into a career that dictates you need to specialist knowledge, there is another route. There are apprenticeships, but there are other routes that are good for the economy, good for the workforce and good for individuals taking on the approach. There are alternatives to university and i think that perhaps is one of the Unintended Consequences of these higher fees may the Unintended Consequences of these higherfees may be people are looking at different options. Well take a break. Time for the panel coming up. Around the world and across the uk. Youre watching bbc news. Now its time for the panel. Further situation here with our courts and some of these justices i am keeping an eye on an m going to have to really Pay Attention to as we get are not just to Pay Attention to as we get are notjust to present Pay Attention to as we get are not just to present a lecture by some of these contentious issues. You are talking about reform. Eight of about term limits . Expanding the bench, a Code Of Ethics . How you going to get that three . Brute Code Of Ethics . 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Theyd played well but wasted chances until Billy Gilmour struck back straight after the break. The comeback gathered Steam And Scott mctominay got his side back on Equal Termspoland also fared poorly at the euros and Scotland Travel to portugal next on sunday. Debtor is a 3 to win. It was a 3 t win. Northern ireland began their group 3 campaign with luxembourg in belfast. Luxembourg were on the back foot from the Off And Paddy mcnair gave the the hosts the lead after 10 minutes. Their superb start continued and after a quarter of an hour they doubled the lead through dan ballard. Theyre off to bulgaria on sunday. To Cricket And England Head Coach Brendon mccullum has been setting out his expectations as he prepares to take over all of Englands Cricket teams. Hes extended his contract by two years to take control of both the test and white ball squads. This Week Hell be coaching the Test Team at the oval, where the series against Sri Lanka will conclude, and says the timing is now right to take on the two jobs. Over the last two years, it would have been nigh on impossible for anyone to do all three formats, and i think hence why, you know, we went down the split coaches route. Now, with this, with the schedule easing, i would say slightly easing, but easing enough, i think it gives you the ability to be able to have one person in the role. Just another line of cricket to bring you, also involving england, but for their white ball squad. The captain of which, Jos Buttler has been ruled out of the upcoming three Match T20 Series against australia, a starting next week. Hes now also a doubt for the five one day internationals that follow. Buttler, whos 33 hasnt played since the T20 World Cup injune because of a calf injury. Its been announced that Phil Salt will step in to Captain England for the first time in the t20s, whilst Harry Brook is in line to step up, if needed, in the 0dis. World athletics has paid tribute to the ugandan Marathon Runner Rebecca cheptegei whos died at the age of 33, saying � she was a talented athlete with lots left to give. Cheptegei died in hospital after being brutally attacked by a former boyfriend on sunday. World Athletics President Sebastian Coe said our sport has lost a talented athlete. And the medals continue to stack up for Paralympics Gb in paris. Pembroke broke the World Record twice as he retained his f13 javelin title. Pembroke set a new record with a throw of 71. 15m but then threw 74. 49m to move almost five metres in the lead and become a double gold medallist. Becky redfern made it third time lucky with gold in the Sb13 100m Breaststroke final. Redfern, who is visually impaired, had finished second in the event at the past two paralympics but is the current world champion. The 24 year old turned well ahead of her rivals and controlled her pace to win in one minute 16. 02 seconds. Alice tai has picked up her second gold, and Herfourth Medal of the games. She recovered from a bad start in the Womens S8 50m freestyle, to take the lead in the final 10 metres, and then held on to win by half a body length. One of athletics great rivalries was re kindled at the Diamond League Event in zurich, Asjosh Kerr and Jakob Ingerbritsen went head to head in the mens 1500 metres, but the pre Race Hype failed to deliver on the track. It was American 0lympic Bronze Medallist Yared Naguse who timed his attack perfectly to stay in front of ingerbritsen, taking the win in three minutes, 29. 21sec. Olympic Champion Cole hockerfinished third, with kerr back in fifth. 0lympic1500 Metre Bronze Medallist Georgia Bell finished second in the 800 metres. It was the kenyan Mary Moraa who showed her strength in the home straight to comfortably take the win in one minute, 57. 08. Georgia Bell Crossing in second, while fellow brit Jemma Reekie got fourth. Gb� s Dina Asher Smith continued her recent form, coming second in the 100 metres, behind american shacarri richardson. Asher smith led for the majority of the race in damp conditions, before being pipped to the line by richardson who finished with a time of 10. 84. Fellow Brit Daryl Neita was secenth. And thats all the sport for now. Hello there. Weve had a real mixture of weather across the Uk Today from the dry, sunny weather for West Scotland and Northern Ireland, where theres been barely a cloud in the sky, to the rather different looking skies across the South Of England and wales, with Heavy Rain moving in here. And, in fact, when The Rain arrived across the South Of England, it was really intense. Had 14 millimetres of rain recorded injust one hour in parts of kent and 12 into parts of hampshire. Thats half an inch of rain in the space of an hour. Rain that intense, im sure, would have led to some localised Surface Water Flooding. And the Weather Front responsible for that rain is going to stay across those areas all night. The rain, though, is likely to turn at least a little Bit Lighterfor a time. Probably quite murky with a lot of low cloud around, some Hill Fog patches developing here. And across East Scotland and eastern areas of england, as the weather turns increasingly humid overnight, therell be thickening of the low cloud and also a bit of mist, fog and drizzle. So, that takes us into friday. The same Weather Front is there, same area of low pressures there. Cant move anywhere because of this big area of high pressure blocking its progress, so instead, welljust have further prolonged outbreaks of rain across southern areas of england. And although The Rain starts off quite light, itll quite quickly turn heavy with some thunder mixed in. Again, there could be some Surface Water Flooding building in. East scotland, eastern areas of england, particularly where you start off with the low cloud, the mist, fog and drizzle, that will eventually clear out of the way for most and its going to be a warm and humid day. Temperatures widely 22 27 degrees celsius, but with further accumulations of rain across the South Of England, where we could be looking at some localised flooding issues. Now, the same low pressure stays with us into the weekend, too, but it is weakening, and so, rather than persistent rain, were more likely to see showers. Those showers heavy and thundery and could pop up just about anywhere across england and wales. Scotland and Northern Ireland, meanwhile, stay dry with some sunny spells. Temperatures quite widely low to Mid 20s and still feeling warm and humid. Second half of the weekend, more Thundery Rain potentially from the same area of low pressure, particularly focused across england and wales. And again, its the North West of scotland and Northern Ireland that will probably stay dry, probably still with some spells of sunshine coming and going. Temperatures still for many of us, reaching the low 20s, which wont feel too bad. Weve got another low on the way for next week, so it stays unsettled. Tonight at ten there are fewer than 500 places in mens prisons left in england and wales we report from inside one of them. The consequences of overcrowding shouting, screaming, fights, Self Harm and sometimes despair. 0ur Correspondent spent two days inside hmp pentonville. Justjumped on the netting. Prison officers are running up the stairs to try and get them down. You worry about, you know, opening the door in the morning and making sure that theyre alive. Anything can happen. Theres been deaths in prison. 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