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Moments when i was away from work were certainly the hardest. How have you recovered from that. Mental health is like going to a physical gym and you need to work on it every day and when you stop you fall out of shape. I work on myself as far as Mental Health is concerned. It has been a hard journey. I am now lucky enough to be in a position where i can run my company delivering Mental Health talks to schools and prisons. To help Raise Awareness of the real life impact of poor Mental Health because i consider myself a strong person and always had done. To see how catechism luckily i fell apart in the wake of the fire the cataclysm of how i fell apart in the wake of the fire it was scary to realise you can go from Sound Mind being competent and confident, a good father and confident, a good father and partner, good firefighter and partner, good Firefighter And Friend to then becoming bad in all those areas. I do not say it lightly, i did become a bad parent, i became a recluse. I surrounded myself with People who would condone my poor behaviours so i could continue them and it has taken a lot to drag me back to the place i am in today. Headed god you are still helping People. Headed god you are still helinu eole. ,. Helping People. You are about helinu helping People. You are about helping peeple helping People. You are about helping People stop. Helping People. You are about helping People stop. When helping People. You are about helping People stop. When we live in a world helping People stop. When we live in a world that helping People stop. When we live in a world that we helping People stop. When we live in a world that we are helping People stop. When we live in a world that we are not| live in a world that we are not going out of our way to help People, then what got left . Health is still something i am involved in. We health is still something i am involved in. Involved in. We have heard already today involved in. We have heard already today that involved in. We have heard already today that the involved in. We have heard. Already today that the Police Investigation should have come first before the Public Inquiry. We about to hear the second part of that Inquiry Reporting back. People are looking to this to help them. It is not going to be closure of course. But it would help them to move on. What are you hoping Forfrom Today . Them to move on. What are you hoping for from today . I them to move on. What are you hoping for from today . Hoping for from today . I think everybody hoping for from today . I think everybody knows hoping for from today . I think everybody knows what hoping for from today . I think everybody knows what is hoping for from today . I think| everybody knows what is going to come out of the inquiry. There has been so much coverage of the process. I dont think the phase two inquiry is going to change a huge amount. It is going to enlighten and entertain information we already have. Hopefully this is where the real hard work starts. Bringing criminal prosecutions against the People who are culpable for the loss of 72 human lives. Who are culpable for the loss of 72 human lives. Of72 human lives. Ricky, Thank Ou Ve Of72 Human lives. Ricky, thank you very much for of72 human lives. Ricky, thank you very much for Talking Of72 Human lives. Ricky, thank you very much for Talking To Of72 Human lives. Ricky, thank you very much for talking to us| you very much for talking to us today. A little earlier i spoke today. A little earlier i spoke to Martin Elise who is the sunday times property writer. She has spent many years investigating what happened at gran fell and looking at the wider issue of unsafe cladding on rain fell around the uk. They will be some answers for the People in glen fell. And for all the other People who are stuck in flats with unsafe cladding. 72 People died and a lot more lives could be at risk. ~. ~. , risk. We will talk about the onauoin risk. We will talk about the ongoing issues risk. We will talk about the ongoing issues in risk. We will talk about the ongoing issues in a risk. We will talk about the l ongoing issues in a moment. Risk. We will talk about the ongoing issues in a moment. Do you think People get answers . With answers and justice are different to different things. They are indeed. The inquiry will be the inquiry will not be about liability. That would be down to the police and the courts. We will be looking at what the inquiry says about the cladding companies. The companies denied lying about the safety of their products. If the inquiry finds that there was a deliberate attempt to mislead, that would be a sick bay significant for this and beyond. If the rules are wrong and it allowed this to happen, that is another big question to answer. The cladding on the grenfell did not comply with the guidance at the time. If the inquiry says that the rules are wrong and allowed this to happen then that will be significant. As you would join me here you may be up to here in the Background Someone shouting for justice for grenfell. Huge emotions here today no normal i can hear the man was calling out talking about seven years of waiting. We have 15 minutes away from the publication of the inquiry. Ahead of the publication of that report, councillors and of campbell is saying that the council should have done more to listen to the concerns of its residents. The council has been proactively an honest and open about its own failings throughout the inquiry process. Councillor Elizabeth Campbell goes on to say that she knows that the report will be a hugely significant moment for the bereaved and the community. I will be make sure that it is a hugely significant moment for this council too. We will look hard at the recommendations and redouble our efforts to listen to our communities and continue to our communities and continue to strive to be a better organisation as a lasting legacy from the tragedy. That is from councillor Elizabeth Campbell, the leader of Kensington And Chelsea council. We will be back here very shortly. But for the moment back to the studio. That final report will be published at 11am. Report will be published at am. So stay with us for that. These pictures are taken this morning just off the coast of france. People are boarding the small vessel in the background. In an attempt to cross the channel. This was the early hours of today. Russia has mounted another attack on the country a day after 51 People were killed in the city of pol tava. Officials in the western city of lviv say at least seven People, including a teenage girl, were killed. Explosions were also heard over the capital, kyiv, as Air Defences tried to down russian missiles. These are some of the pictures we had from lviv during the early hours where as i said officials say seven People were killed, at least 30 others were injured during Air Attacks early on wednesday. And now its daylight these pictures have just come into us where you can see the Emergency Services on the streets along with some of the rubble. The Citys Mayor said more than fifty buildings had been damaged. The ukrainian military said the whole country had been placed under an air alert. Meanwhile Rescue Workers are continuing to search the rubble of a Military Institute In Poltava for survivors of Tuesdays Attack there. President zelensky has insisted that what he called Russian Scum would be held accountable for the deaths. Our europe correspondent, nick beake, is in poltava and updated us on what we know about the latest russia attacks. Another night of missile and drone strikes. The vivi is right on the west of Ukraine Close to the polish border. Right on the edge of the european union. But this has not deterred russia. We have seen some video coming in today showing a huge Explosion And Debris raining down on a residential area. At least seven People have been killed including three children. A nine year old girl, a 14 logo and another child. This is where they suffered the worst single strike in any ukrainian Town Or City this year. Behind us, this stance has been set up and they are giving out food and they are giving out Food And Coffee to members of the Emergency Services will be working through the night. This was a mid military academy that was a mid military academy that was hit Yesterday Morning it was hit Yesterday Morning it was a double strike. Two ballistic missiles. Lots and lots of People killed. What is hip it is notjust a number of People who were killed but also the target. The fact that it was young cadets, People with the brightest and the best. The ukrainians will training them up ukrainians will training them up so that they could be part of this collective effort to defend their country from russian aggression. President zelensky said that there will be a big investigation into how this could have happened. He is also taken the opportunity to say that this sort of attack shows exactly why his nato allies should be doing a lot more to help him protect his country. Sir Keir Starmer could face the most significant challenge to his authority so far next week, when mps vote on the controversial decision to scrap Winter Fuel payments for millions of pensioners. Our chief political Correspondent Henry Zeffman has more on what this could mean for the prime minister. There is a lot of unease about this decision to scrap the Winter Fuel payments. They need to do more to make sure the pensioners do not lose out. Rachel reeves stressed that the Government Need to make sure that the government protect pensioners. Internal treasury calculations say that the triple Lock Pension will go up by over £400 a year from april. Nevertheless, it is still the kite is that still lay mps wonder whether this is the right sort of thing for a Labour Government to be doing, evenif Labour Government to be doing, even if they accept Rachel Reeves argument that there she has been elected Black Hole by her predecessors. When it comes to parliamentary discipline, there has been when rebellion against Keir Starmer already since he took office. That was very early on when seven labour mps voted against him on the to child benefit cap. They are not labour mps any more. He suspended them for six months. That was intended to be a deterrent. We will see next week whether that deterrent worked. Sir Keir Starmer has a big majority and i think this will pass. But what with the consequence be . Some cuts were some cuts were announced some cuts were announced yesterday. Today we have a programme for government. John swinney has been in Thejob Programme for government. John swinney has been in the job for less than four months. This is its first programme for government. His single biggest priority is to lift children out of poverty. Eradicating Child Poverty. He is pointing to measures that this government has already taken. There is a weekly payments to low income families already. The Child Poverty Action Group here in scotland say that the Scottish Government is taking the right measures when it comes to Child Poverty, but the scale and the pace of Change Isnt nearly enough. Elsewhere today, we are also expecting to hear the first Minister Talk about his governments plans on Climate Change on growing the economy and is sustainable public services. Given the fine man secretary, was talking about £500 million worth of cuts yesterday, that is challenging. Itll be interesting see how much focus there is on growing the economy as theres not much spare cash around the shiny new policies. Ahead of this announcement, labour says in the Scottish Government has lost its way. The say that the scottish ministers have run out of ideas. This was his last chance to polish his credentials. All this comes ahead of the Scottish Parliament elections in 2026. The number of People complaining about financial scams has hit a record high this year. At least half involved fraudsters tricking victims into making authorised payments by pretending to be a business, for example. New rules are due to come in, offering better protection and speeding up Compensation Payments in such cases. Figuresjust figures just released show how common financial scams have become. They have been a Record Number of complaints about fraud. 8000 734 complaints were made. It is the highest number in any three month period. More than half of the complaints from People who have fallen foul of so called authorised push payments. That is where People are tricked into making an online payments to a fraudster was pretending to a business. The ombudsman says it is disappointed to see complaints increasing, while the body representing Uk Banks saying they are doing what they can to help customers. Can to help customers. There are a lot can to help customers. There are a lot of can to help customers. There are a lot of different can to help customers. There are a lot of different ways can to help customers. There are a lot of different ways in l are a lot of different ways in which are a lot of different ways in which this fraud takes place. It which this fraud takes place. It is which this fraud takes place. It is really important that we treat it is really important that we treat all it is really important that we treat all information as we would treat all information as we would protect the keys to our house would protect the keys to our House I would protect the keys to our house. I wouldnt encourage everybody to look at our Advice Everybody to look at our advice. People should stop and think advice. People should stop and think and advice. People should stop and think and protect their personal information. New rules come into personal information. New rules come into force personal information. New rules come into force next personal information. New rules come into force next month come into force next month about how quickly People can be compensated for fraud. There are reports that victims could only be compensated after £85,000. There will be an update on that later today. Its a year since most of us first heard about raac thats re enforced Auto Claved aerated concrete. Basically, a lightweight Building Material that is cheap, and was commonly used from the 1950s to the � 80s but we now know that it can deteriorate over time. A string of incidents, including collapsing school rooves, prompted a rapid assessment of hundreds of public buildings and that concern is continuing to have a huge impact on communities. It is heartbreaking. Seeing the buildin it is heartbreaking. Seeing the building and it is heartbreaking. Seeing the Building And Estate it is heartbreaking. Seeing the Building And Estate is it is heartbreaking. Seeing the Building And Estate is hugely l Building And Estate is hugely upsetting. I Building And Estate is hugely uasettin. , Building And Estate is hugely uasettin. , Building And Estate is hugely melting upsetting. I came over every week and upsetting. I came over every Week And L upsetting. I came over every week and i am upsetting. I came over every week and i am watching upsetting. I came over every i week and i am watching itjust lo. Week and i am watching it ust io, , week and i am watching it ust co. , week and i am watching it ust go. This building was forced to close abruptly go. This building was forced to close abruptly last go. This building was forced to close abruptly last year close a Bru Ptly last year because close abruptly last year because of the concrete. Every activity he had to stop. Activity he had to stop. When thins activity he had to stop. When things like activity he had to stop. When things like this happen activity he had to stop. When things like this happen you. Things like this happen you dont things like this happen you dont realise things like this happen you dont realise how things like this happen you | dont realise how important these dont realise how important these buildings dont realise how important these buildings are. Dont realise how important these buildings are. She. Dont realise how important these buildings are. These buildings are. She is t in these buildings are. She is trying to these buildings are. She is trying to reestablish these buildings are. She is. Trying to reestablish services trying to re establish services that will base here. But theres still no sign of any work starting to make this building safe, let alone reopen. Building safe, let alone reorien building safe, let alone reoen. ~. ,. , reopen. We had Lunch Clubs going on reopen. We had Lunch Clubs going on here. Reopen. We had Lunch Clubs. Going on here. We worked with ae going on here. We worked with Age Concern going on here. We worked with Age Concern. We going on here. We worked with Age Concern. We had going on here. We worked with Age Concern. We had a going on here. We worked with i Age Concern. We had a Community Library Age Concern. We had a Community Library and Age Concern. We had a Community Library and there Age Concern. We had a Community Library and there as Age Concern. We had a Community Library and there as well. Age concern. We had a Community Library and there as well. One library and there as well. One service it library and there as well. One service it is library and there as well. One service it is still library and there as well. One service it is still here library and there as well. One service it is still here is library and there as well. Service it is still here is the community food pantry, relocated to a cabin in the car park. Relocated to a cabin in the car ark. ~. Relocated to a cabin in the car ark,. ,. , ~ relocated to a cabin in the car ark. ,. , ~. , relocated to a cabin in the car ark. ~. ,. , ~. , park. We are talking about 50 or60 park. We are talking about 50 or 60 families park. We are talking about 50 or 60 families coming park. We are talking about 50 or 60 families coming here i park. We are talking about 50 or 60 families coming here a | or 60 families coming here a week or 60 families coming here a week it or 60 families coming here a week it is or 60 families coming here a week. It is a lifeline. But we have week. It is a lifeline. But we have lost many services around it. Have lost many services around it we have lost many services around it we had have lost many services around it. We had Potty Training and Behaviour Management services. This building is managed by local councils. They appreciate they say that the closure of they say that the closure of the building is an inconvenience. But that they need to consider the most cost effective measures for its future. Thanks to the hard work of volunteers with support from basingstoke council, some services have resumed in other venues nearby. We have not been able to come here we have not been able to come here as we have not been able to come here as much as we normally would here as much as we normally would. Normally we would come here every day. It is crucial for the here every day. It is crucial for the kids to be able to come here for the kids to be able to come here during the holidays. There is a commitment here during the holidays. There is a commitment for here during the holidays. There is a commitment for the here during the holidays. There | is a commitment for the council to fix the problems here. We can offer to fix the problems here. We can offer the to fix the problems here. We can offer the services elsewhere. Can offer the services elsewhere. There can offer the services elsewhere. There are can offer the services elsewhere. There are small steps. Elsewhere. There are small steps. But elsewhere. There are small steps. But we elsewhere. There are small steps, but we are elsewhere. There are small steps, but we are getting l steps, but we are getting there steps, but we are getting there we steps, but we are getting there. We are steps, but we are getting there. We are trying steps, but we are getting l there. We are trying really hard there. We are trying really hard to there. We are trying really hard to get there. We are trying really hard to get the there. We are trying really hard to get the services i there. We are trying really| hard to get the services up there. We are trying really hard to get the services up and running hard to get the services up and running again hard to get the services up and running again. It hard to get the services up and running again. It is hard to get the services up and running again. It is one hard to get the services up and running again. It is one of running again. It is one of those running again. It is one of those things running again. It is one of those things that running again. It is one of those things that are those things that are shattering those things that are shattering at those things that are shattering at the those things that are. Shattering at the time, those things that are shattering at the time, but let us think shattering at the time, but let us think about shattering at the time, but let us think about the shattering at the time, but let us think about the positives. I milk rounds at risk of being lost to history. Environmentally conscious customers are leading a resurgence in deliveries. This 1950s throat is going out into the community in style. He had to sell off its Customer Base after the pandemic. I spent five years building the business and it was quite heart wrenching when everything was spiralling out of the control was spiralling out of the control crosswise. Was spiralling out of the control crosswise. But paul is now back control crosswise. But paul is now back on control crosswise. But paul is now back on the control crosswise. But paul is now back on the road. Control crosswise. But paul is now back on the road. He control crosswise. But paul is j now back on the road. He has control crosswise. But paul is l now back on the road. He has a 65 year Old Knox wrote that he used to own before sending it to a friend. Used to own before sending it to a friend used to own before sending it to a friend. There are probably ten left in to a friend. There are probably ten left in existence to a friend. There are probably ten left in existence of this ten left in existence of this particular model. I told them not to scrap it. It isnt been a Labour Of not to scrap it. It isnt been a Labour Of love to restore it. It a Labour Of love to restore it. It is a Labour Of love to restore it. It is not a Labour Of love to restore it. It is not a a Labour Of love to restore it. It is not a jot for the faint hearted. His first delivery this morning was half past midnight. He is passionate about milk deliveries. He past midnight. He is passionate about milk deliveries. About milk deliveries. He has a collection about milk deliveries. He has a collection of about milk deliveries. He has a collection of milk about milk deliveries. He has a collection of milk bottles. About milk deliveries. He has a collection of milk bottles. I collection of milk bottles. I had collection of milk bottles. I had to collection of milk bottles. I had to purchase my own shed to display had to purchase my own shed to display them. I collected empties as well as full bottles. I kept all the bottles and the bottles. I kept all the bottles and the Foil Caps as well. There and the Foil Caps as well. There are a lot of essex models there are a lot of essex models. They are very close to My Heart models. They are very close to My Heart. There are some from about My Heart. There are some from about 1850. 335 My Heart. There are some from about 1850 about 1850. As well as the nostalgia. About 1850. As well as the nostalgia, he about 1850. As well as the nostalgia, he says that. About 1850. As well as the i nostalgia, he says that these glass bottles is about demand for a more sustainable way of Buying Milk. It for a more sustainable way of Buying Milk Buying Milk. It has had a big resurgence here. Buying milk. It has had a big resurgence here. Stop i Buying Milk. It has had a big resurgence here. Stop with L Resurgence here. Stop with customers from billericay, he has his business afloat once again has his business afloat once aaain. �. ,. ,. ,. , again. Im going to hand over an item you again. Im going to hand over an item you mcveigh. Again. Im going to hand over an item you mcveigh. You i an item you mcveigh. You rejoin us outside the building where the inquiry into the tragic events at Grenfell Injune 2017 has been investigated. They have been investigating for more than six years now. We are just a few minutes away from the publication of part two of the publication of part two of the inquiry. The first part was about the chronology, in the story of the night. But this is looking into the underlying causes. What was the context and the environment that is such a devastating fire was able to take Hold And Spread to that Tower Block so quickly with the loss of 72 lives. In the building, are survivors of that fire. Relatives of People who died and other members of the community who are waiting anxiously to find out what the chair of the inquiry will say. Some of them did not want this inquiry to take place. They wanted a Police Investigation first. They will be looking to see whether what he says today will provide a path for possible prosecutions that the met police and the crown prosecution service, although that could take up to a decade after the fire. Mark, tell us a bit more about what the expectant dictations are around today . Expectant dictations are around toda . , expectant dictations are around toda . , today . This is a hugely significant today . This is a hugely significant moment i today . This is a hugely significant moment in L Today . This is a hugely i significant moment in what today . This is a hugely significant moment in what has been a interminable process. It has been seven years. It has been a long time waiting to get to what could be Criminal Charges and convictions. We will see what fingers are being pointed to. Whether the inquiry will want to lay the blame at particular doors. The companies involved in the cladding itself. The tenants manage and run group that was operating at the time. Though successive governments. There will be a lot of focus on whether this inquiry is prepared to name names. That shouting that you can hear, lies behind all of this. Many of the People, the survivors of that terrible day and the families of those 72 People lost their lives and others who face lifelong trauma, this is aboutjustice. They are seeking some kind of justice. What he would be looking for in a few minutes time is the extent to which this inquiry is prepared to say these People behave criminally. 0r these People behave dishonestly. It is not a court of law and it is a process to reach any kind of Criminal Charge or criminal conviction. But for those groups who have been involved in this process for all these years, they will be hoping that this inquiry will have enough evidence to point the finger and say these are the People who are responsible for what happened that terrible night. People find it difficult to understand why it has taken so long. I find it difficult to understand why taken so long i was there from dawn watching the building burned. Theresa may made a statement to parliament and talked about lessons be learned. She talked about the guilty have nowhere to hide. And yet, as you say, here we are more than seven years on, and there are still great gaps terms of thatjudgment. There is that agony, that sense that this hasnt yet to produce the result that People have wanted. Mark, you will be with me throughout the day thank you for the moment. We know that there will be so much reaction to this report due to be publishing a minutes time. Haste publishing a minutes time. We will hear from Sir Keir Starmer Will Hearfrom Sir Keir Starmer Ads Pm cues. It will be interesting to see what he has to say. In response to this report. This phase two report from the Public Inquiry into grenfell tower. We are waiting for answers. The bereaved, the survivors and the wider granville community. A damning report into the Ground Floor Tower is published. There were serious failings in London Fire Brigades Training and its strategy to evacuate the building. The 1,700 Page Report comes seven years after the fire took the lives of 72 People. We will bring you the reaction of the families. We are outside the inquiry