And making stolen phones harder to sell on the Uk Government, asks Tech Companies how they can tackle phone theft. And libraries are facing mass closures across the uk. A former childrens� laureate tells us why he feels that is a � decimation�. Hello and welcome to the programme. We start this i were in ukraine. Where russia has carried out one of the deadliest strikes in months. Ukraines Defence Ministry says 51 people have been killed, and more than 200 injured. It happened in poltava a city in the east of the country. Many people are believed to be trapped under the rubble. The countrys Defence Ministry called It A � barbaric strike against an educational establishment. President zelensky said, it was a very difficult day for ukraine. Our bbc verify correspondent, Merlyn Thomas has the latest. Here at bpc verify we are working hard to analyse and verify footage of the aftermath of the attack. Let me talk you through what we know so far but what happened. The attack was on the city Of Poltava in the east of ukraine. What we know our details shared by the greening President Zelensky who sentin greening President Zelensky who sent in a preliminary report it was caused by two russian ballistic missiles. We have not independently verified that, but we know chatter circulated first across Social Media about the strike at 9am uk time. Bpc verify has confirmed the Authenticity And Location of a number of photos and videos and in this video be verified, you can see the Damage And Piles of rubble scattered around the area. You can see there is this large blown out hole in a building about six stories high. In some of the other photos and videos we have been seeing, they are quite graphic and we have seen what we appear to be dead parties on the floor and what appeared to be Emergency Responders in the photos with stretchers and blankets. I bpc verify we will continue to monitor footage on The Incident and bring you more as soon as we have it. Oleksiy goncharenko is a ukrainian mp and joins me now. Thank you for your time here. Your reaction to what we have seen earlier today. An your reaction to what we have seen earlier today. Seen earlier today. An awful traced seen earlier today. An awful tragedy and seen earlier today. An awful tragedy and barbaric seen earlier today. An awful| tragedy and barbaric russian attack and looks like the number of victims will rise so it is one of the deadliest single attack from russians since the beginning of the full Scale Invasion. Just awful and the victims are mostly young people which is so painful. Also the hospital is damaged will stop this is one more sign that ukraine needs as much Air Defence as possible and as soon as possible. And also that we need finally this Partition Permission to attack military objects in russian Territory. These ballistic missiles were launched from russia and just a few Minutes Flight to poltava which makes It Almost impossible for people to hide in shelters. I impossible for people to hide in shelters. In shelters. I will speak more about point in shelters. I will speak more about point and in shelters. I will speak more about point and a in shelters. I will speak more about point and a moment, l in shelters. I will speak more i about point and a moment, but we have spoken many times through this to your word but you seem genuinely shocked as you seem genuinely shocked as you are talking to me now. Tell me a little more about the poltava, what exactly was it today . Poltava, what exactly was it toda . , , today . One of the institutes and the hospital, today . One of the institutes and the hospital, but today . One of the institutes| and the hospital, but mostly the institute is damaged. They were both military and civilians there and the hospital is completely civilian. By the way, they are already russian sources and official State Media already have taken responsibility for this saying to ballistic missiles were launched from russian Territory. Russian Territory. You mentioned russian Territory. You mentioned what russian Territory. You mentioned what President Zelensky has been talking about many times in recent days and weeks and that is, he once a change in the rules of what western weaponry can be used for. You spoke about the missiles being launched from just across the border, he said the last few Minutes Tojustin Trudeau from canada to get him to lobby on his behalf, when you talk to the americans, what are you facing back to you in terms of not making that decision . Terms of not making that decision . , ~. , decision . You know everything, that they are decision . You know everything, that they are trying decision . You know everything, that they are trying to decision . You know everything, that they are trying to avoid that they are trying to avoid escalation and all of this talk you have heard many times, but i cannot understand this. If you really want us to win this war, if you are really supporting us, why are you tying our hands . Why cant we not use the weaponry we are receiving, at most, how we should use it, like russia does themselves conducting test throughout the Territory of ukraine, we should be especially dangerous. They told you injust especially dangerous. They told you in just two especially dangerous. They told you injust two minutes especially dangerous. They told you in just two minutes and a half the flight of the missile its nothing, you just hear the Air Raid Signaland its nothing, you just hear the Air Raid Signal and you have just two minutes to run away. If you are on the sixth floor on some building and you need to run all the way downstairs, is it realistic that you can do this in two minutes was not just imagine that. And this is several times per day. This is something that should be done, we cannot continue like this. It is just not fair. We we cannot continue like this. It isjust not fair. It isjust not fair. We were lookin It Isjust not fair. We were looking at It Isjust not fair. We were looking at the It Isjust not fair. We were looking at the damage It Isjust not fair. We were | looking at the damage and It Isjust not fair. We were looking at the damage and you were describing and Talking Aboutjust were describing and talking about just the short window of time and of course they are still looking for people under that rubble. It does today also demonstrate another truth despite that incursion into the region which caught the russians by surprise, kursk, use of a real battle on your hands on the Eastern Front lines, a very difficult battle which could go either way in the coming months . Absolutely, we have a difficult the coming months . Absolutely, we have a difficult battle the coming months . Absolutely, we have a difficult battle from i we have a difficult battle from the first day of this war ten years ago and is the first day of this full Scale Invasion two and half years ago. Russia is a Big Country with big population in big resources with the support of all of these accesses of power, north korea, iran, occupied Belarus And China who is standing behind all of this so so much is at stake. It is essential for ukraine but also essential for international order. Ukraine but also essential for international order. Thank you for taking international order. Thank you for taking time international order. Thank you for taking time to international order. Thank you for taking time to speak international order. Thank you for taking time to speak to international order. Thank you for taking time to speak to us | for taking time to speak to us live from odesa. You can see that qr code, you can actually go to the latest version of the programme that has just been recorded. Lets turn to the events happening in the English Channel today. Frances Interior Minister says, at least 12 people have died, after a Boat Carrying migrants capsized in the English Channel. Two other people are missing, and a large Search And Rescue operation is under way. In the last hour Britains Home SecretaryYvette Cooper called The Incident was � horrifying and deeply tragic� , and said dismantling criminal Smuggler Gangs was � vital�. A spokesperson for the french coastguard says, over 50 people have been rescued, and are in need of medical treatment. Several people are understood to be in critical condition. Its understood to have happened, near a stretch of coastline between boulogne and calais, one of the shortest distances, from the english coast. Emergency services have been responding since around 11. 30 local time. Lets speak to our correspondent in paris, hugh schofield. What is the latest coming from the french authorities . The total of 12 the french authorities . The total of 12 at the french authorities . The total of 12 at least the french authorities . The total of 12 at least as the french authorities . The total of 12 at least as what the french authorities . Tta total of 12 at least as what we are settling on, it could go up because the Interior Minister in france said there are two missing so it looks 12 possibly 13 or 1a will be a final total. But that does make a very serious event, the most serious incident in the channel this year. There have been unreported because small scale casualties, rather constantly over the past few months, july and august, there were 10 15 people dying, but in separate incidents of one and two so below the radar of the news Media Era that it has been going on. Now we have this which is the continuation of what has been going on, yet larger and more tragic. The french interior larger and more tragic. The french Interior Minister is speaking to the press now so we will monitor that and bring you any of the key lines coming from france, buti any of the key lines coming from france, but i referenced Yvette Cooper talking about her Shock And Horror at these events, but going on to talk about the new Governments Strategy here in the uk which is to tackle the Smuggler Gangs. We really wait to see on both sides of the channel how both sides of the channel how both of those initiatives are going to work in the coming months because we know the numbers of crossings, we know those are at high levels this year. Those are at high levels this ear. ,. , those are at high levels this ear. ,. , ~ , those are at high levels this ear. ,. , ~ ,. , year. They are. They keep going u. Yes, year. They are. They keep going uo yes. We year. They are. They keep going up. Yes, we have year. They are. They keep going up. Yes, we have a year. They are. They keep going up. Yes, we have a new up. Yes, we have a new government, a new policy in london, but the cooperation remains what it was under the agreements reached with the last government with rishi sunak. I cant imagine them being change particularly because everyone can agree with the basic principles of doing the basic principles of doing the utmost in the most practical ways to stop people getting to the sea that is going on with money towards Police Work and then greater cooperation with tackling Smuggling Games who are blamed for all of this and everyone can agree on at government level, have to be the main target ofjoint work. That goes on. I cannot see that changing. There are successes, the number of people stopped is going up in the number of boats turned back to the french coast is going up, the number of people stop On The Beach is going up in the number of prosecutions for People Smuggling is going up for People Smuggling is going up as well. So at every juncture, the french in the british Will Parade The figures saying, we are making progress, but it is in the face of a flood which grows ever bigger so it looks immaterial but theyre doing because keeps going. Theyre doing because keeps anoin. �. , theyre doing because keeps main, �. ,. , theyre doing because keeps anoin. �. ,. ,. Theyre doing because keeps anoin. �. , going. Im going to cut across ou going. Im going to cut across you because going. Im going to cut across you because we going. Im going to cut across you because we have going. Im going to cut across you because we have a you because we have a translation of what the Interior Minister is just saying to the media. Lets put the microphones up. Translation and the boats, the Ut Translation and the boats, they put up translation and the boats, they put up to translation and the boats, they put up to 75 translation and the boats, they put up to 75 People Translation and the boats, they put up to 75 people on i they put up to 75 people on these tiny boats and they go down very, very quickly. And so, a lot of people get, this is the reason why so many people are killed on these journeys. So what we are doing is working, there are far fewer people making the journey and there are fewer, much fewer of these journeys, there are fewer, much fewer of thesejourneys, but there are fewer, much fewer of these journeys, but we carry on working on this because there are some people who actually want to do this job. And really, the english only pay for a fraction of what the french government actually pays to stop these incidents from happening. We have to absolutely reestablish some relations with our friends reestablish some relations with ourfriends in reestablish some relations with our friends in the reestablish some relations with ourfriends in the uk reestablish some relations with our friends in the uk and reestablish some relations with ourfriends in the uk and the Uk Government. Ive had a lot of conversations with the Interior Ministers that have beenin Interior Ministers that have been in the uk. I think it is important that it is the role of the governments to negotiate what we must do. We need a treaty, a Migration Treaty between the uk and the European Union because people who go now are people from the Horn Of Africa who want to go to the uk and who want to join their families and work in conditions that would not be acceptable in france. So, we really do need to work together to stop these things happening. Things happening. Really interesting things happening. Really interesting comments i things happening. Really interesting comments as things happening. Really interesting comments as more of those officials get asked questions. Let me recap with the french Interior Minister was saying. He was saying that because of the work of the french have been doing, fewer of these crossings and journeys are being made. He made the point that actually the numbers are increasing because of the amount of people that they are cramming onto these boats, 75 people he said sometimes were being pushed onto these boats before the journey starts. He talked about the costs of the operation and perhaps how much the uk are contributing and interesting comments at the end, he said, we need to reestablish relations with the uk and the Uk Government after what we have seen. He talked about having spoken and dealt with four different Home Secretaries over the last little while. He said the role of government is so crucial in terms of getting a new treaty, negotiated, in terms of how countries respond to the problem that they are all actually having to deal with witches migration. Some really interesting comments there from the french Interior Minister. We are expecting the latest comments from ministers here in the uk as well. As soon as we get those, we will obviously bring those to you. Lets pause because around the world and across the uk, you are watching bbc news. You are watching bbc news. Israels Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu has attacked the uks decision, to suspend some Arms Sales to his country as � shameful�. Posting on x he said, the decision will not change Israels Determination to defeat hamas. Adding that britains misguided decision will only embolden hamas. The uks defence secretary, john healey, has defended the legaljudgment. The uk has suspended 30 out of 350 Arms Export licences to israel, saying there is a clear risk the equipment could be used to commit serious violations of International Law. Joining me now is our middle East Bureau ChiefjoFloto Injerusalem and our political correspondent damian grammaticas whos in westminster. Take me through the israeli reaction there has been from Benjamin Netanyahu to some of the other main players there. Last night we had the defence minister, the foreign minister, the public be current minister all coming out condemning this. This morning, a very strong statement from the israeli Prime Minister as he pointed out, describing It As a shameful, said it was misguided, said, instead of britain standing next to its fellow democracy, and his words, it was encouraging and in Belittling Hamas and concluded the statement saying without or with british arms, israel will carry on this where and when it. The total amount of british weapons that are coming to israel are negligible in global terms. A few tens of millions in total. That compares to almost 4 Billion worth of weapons every year from the united states, plus, another 14 Billion coming from washington just another 14 Billion coming from washingtonjust this another 14 Billion coming from washington just this year or so in practical terms, it does not really go anywhere, but it is the symbolism from Westminster Thatis the symbolism from westminster that is what is worrying that the israeli government. Britain is an ally and is a staunch supporter of israel, the last government was very clear to shoulder with israel, but also clear it had real concerns about humanitarian access to gaza and about condition of prisoners taken by the Israeli Military and not given access to the icrc. Britain has raised these concerns with israel over months, nothing is happening, we have a change of government in the uk, and this government has changed its stance and made a very loud, prompt to israel that It A very loud, prompt to Israel Thatitis a very loud, prompt to israel that it is not happy. That it is not happy. Lets go to westminster, that it is not happy. Lets go to westminster, damien, i that it is not happy. Lets go. To westminster, damien, you heard that the criticism of Benjamin Netanyahu also criticism here from the chief rabbi, criticism as well from borisjohnson, talking about boris johnson, talking about abandoning borisjohnson, talking about abandoning is zero as it the Uk Government so what has the Uk Government so what has the Uk Government and saying, and detail, defending themselves from those various charges . The Uk Government from those various charges . The Uk Government says it remains a robust Uk Government says it remains a robust ally Uk Government says it remains a robust ally of israel and will continue robust ally of israel and will continue to support the legitimate defence of israel, pointing back to when Uk Forces help defend israel against multiple missile attacks earlier multiple missile attacks earlier in the year, saying, the earlier in the year, saying, the uk earlier in the year, saying, the uk what to do so again. But what the uk what to do so again. But what the the uk what to do so again. But what the Uk Government is also trying what the Uk Government is also trying to what the Uk Government is also trying to do is frame this as a legal trying to do is frame this as a legal decision, it said it took a legal legal decision, it said it took a legal advice in on the basis of that, a legal advice in on the basis of that, as a legal advice in on the basis of that, as you were saying before, of that, as you were saying before, there were reasons to believe. Before, there were reasons to believe, the export of some items, believe, the export of some items, if believe, the export of some items, if they were allowed, could items, if they were allowed, could end up being used in breaches of humanitarian law and therefore would prohibit those and therefore would prohibit those items. That is a restricted number, the bulk of armed restricted number, the bulk of armed exports go on. The Uk Government, clearly is trying to calibrate this. It has shifted to calibrate this. It has shifted its position compared to the shifted its position compared to the conservatives who also had the to the conservatives who also had the same legal advice, but did not had the same legal advice, but did not start stop some Arms Exports did not start stop some Arms Exports. With the government is trying exports. With the government is trying to exports. With the government is trying to do here is send an important signal but say this is also important signal but say this is also about International Law is also about International Law the is also about International Law. The trouble for them that is the law. The trouble for them that is the it law. The trouble for them that is the it does not please either is the it does not please either side some on the left saying either side some on the left saying they should go further and ban saying they should go further and ban allarms saying they should go further and ban all Arms Exports and Obviousiy And Ban all Arms Exports and obviously from israel and the right, obviously from israel and the right, criticism saying this is a ban right, criticism saying this is a Ban On right, criticism saying this is a Ban On an ally. A Ban On an ally. Will the British Government a Ban On an ally. Will the British Government published that legal advice . That legal advice . They have been asked that legal advice . They have been asked to that legal advice . They have been asked to and that legal advice . They have been asked to and what that legal advice . They havej been asked to and what they have been asked to and what they have published so far is an explanation of it. Interestingly, it says it is not interestingly, it says it is not to interestingly, it says it is not to do with the conduct of the war not to do with the conduct of the war in not to do with the conduct of the war in gaza, as the cause of the the war in gaza, as the cause of the decision, they say there isnt of the decision, they say there isnt not of the decision, they say there isnt not enough clear information on the ground to understand the situation clearly, but it is the things mentioned, the treatment of prisoners taken to by israel, that prisoners taken to by israel, that Is Prisoners taken to by israel, that is cause for concern, also the axis that is cause for concern, also the axis for that is cause for concern, also the axis for humanitarian aid to gaza, the axis for humanitarian aid to gaza, all of those things they to gaza, all of those things they say to gaza, all of those things they say it raises issues of concern they say it raises issues of concern and that is the grandson of concern and that is the grounds for the decision. Damien the grounds for the decision. Damien chromatic is live from westminster, lets turn to a store getting a lot of reaction. Phone companies are to meet with the uks Home Office, to discuss extra measures to tackle crime, after the number of � Snatch Thefts of mobiles more than doubled in england and wales over the last year. The government says an increase in demand for Second Hand smartphones is driving the rise both in the uk and overseas. Police intelligence adjust the problem has been driven by demand for Second Hand Headsets in the uk abroad. T demand for secondhand headsets in the uk abroad. In the uk abroad. I was really, really upset. In the uk abroad. I was really, really upset, the in the uk abroad. I was really, really upset, the fact in the uk abroad. I was really, really upset, the fact that really upset, the fact that this is happened to me repeatedly over the past year is just showing how much this crime is increasing. It has gone from being something that wasnt so common to now, that its almost a day to day occurrence. Its almost a day to day occurrence. ,. ,. , occurrence. Lawrence is one of an estimated occurrence. Lawrence is one of an estimated 200 occurrence. Lawrence is one of an estimated 200 people occurrence. Lawrence is one of an estimated 200 people of. Occurrence. Lawrence is one of| an estimated 200 people of the victims of Snatch Thefts every day. They were less than 1 of deaths resulting in charges. More than 80 were closed before a suspect was found. Phones get blacklisted in the uk once phones get blacklisted in the uk once reported stolen but they uk once reported stolen but they do uk once reported stolen but they do work in some other countries, if the criminals can et countries, if the criminals can get into countries, if the criminals can get into the fun and sell it off as get into the fun and sell it off as a get into the fun and sell it off as a Second Hand device, then off as a Second Hand device, then they off as a Second Hand device, then they are good for that. And then they are good for that. And if then they are good for that. And if they arent able to get into and if they arent able to get into the and if they arent able to get into the phone, for example the victim into the phone, for example the victim does not give up their apple victim does not give up their apple id. Victim does not give up their apple id, and some of the materials, can be sold off, the metals materials, can be sold off, the metals come up for parts as Well Metals come up for parts as well because there were so much money well because there were so much mone. , ~ , well because there were so much mone. , ~ , money. Phones like this arty have some money. Phones like this arty have some security money. Phones like this arty have some Security Features| have some Security Features built in, facial recognition to gain access or the ability to wipe remotely, but now the government wants Tech Makers to make them to go further to make less attractive to criminals to steal. The many factors are to be called at a summit from Home Office to look at what more can be done. ,. , office to look at what more can be done. ,. ,. , office to look at what more can be done. ,. ,. ,. , be done. How many of us know what to do be done. How many of us know what to do when be done. How many of us know what to do when our be done. How many of us know what to do when our phone what to do when our phone is stolen. Have you actually bother to read what the mobile Phone Company will provide you, probably not. It is a case of working with those companies to see, if your phone is stolen, can it be shut down completely so cant be resold. This can it be shut down completely so cant be resold. So cant be resold. As well as readin so cant be resold. As well as reading paperwork, so cant be resold. As well as reading paperwork, there so cant be resold. As well as reading paperwork, there is. Reading paperwork, there is some other things you can do to stop herfrom being snatch. Be aware of your surroundings when you are using your phone, when youre not using it, keep it out of sight, but never leave it out on the table and an outdoor restaurant or cafe. All measures which could help stop you becoming one of the rising tide of victims of phone theft. Coming up for viewers here in the uk, reports around off stead getting rid of those one word assessments for schools. That follows the death of the Head Teacher Ruth perry. We will talk life to his sister who campaigned so hard on that, she willjoin you live on the programme. We also hear the latest from the author Michael Rosen talking about the closure of so many libraries across england and wales. A poster is coming up in the next few minutes here on the programme. Big area of high pressure, tantalising close to us in the atlantic, but not quite close enough to kill off these various frontal systems, these old weather fronts if youd like, just bringing bands of cloud, some bits and pieces of shy rearranging some clear spells in between quite misty and murky and places, not as muqqy and murky and places, not as muggy as last night across the south east, 14 london dropping all the way down to four in the highlands. Tomorrow, we will have those old weather fronts bring areas of cloud, some showers, it will break out through the day. Some heavy once across eastern england, a cluster of heavy showers drifting southwards across scotland, but one or two showers elsewhere. Some spells of sunshine as well. It will be quite a cool fresh day compared to some weve had recently. 49th in 20 degrees. Into thursday, this Weather System here drops its way southwards and tends to combined with his broad area of low Pressure Spending over continental europe. That is going to bring some rain. In fact it could be quite a lot of rain that affects southern england, wales, england as we go through the date there is a further north, Cloud Feeding and across eastern parts, some spells of sunshine for Western Scotland and for northern ireland, breezy, effective blustery in the south, leiter winds further north and it will start to feel a bit more humid. That will continue into friday. Our low is still swirling to the south, still brings outbreaks of rain across other parts with the winds coming from the near continent where it has been very warm of late, it is going to feel quite warm and humid as me and the week. Friday looks like this. Outbreaks of rain particularly across parts of southern england, the midlands into wales. Further north, areas of cloud, gas, some spousal sunshine, that feed of humid air we spousal sunshine, that feed of Humid Airwe will see spousal sunshine, that feed of humid air we will see some high temperatures on friday. Widely into the 20s. At 20s for some including Western Scotland we could get up to 25 degrees with some sunshine across that western side of scotland. What about the weekend . Still rather warm and humid for a time. Some rain particularly down towards the south. Drier and brighter further north. This is bbc news. The headlines. Welcome back. Russian missile strikes on a Ukrainian Military Institute kills at least 51 people over a Dozen And Overa and over a dozen others could be trapped. The Immigration Minister has called for an Amalgamation Treaty after 12 people died as a Boat Carrying Dozens of migrants capsized in the English Channel. Ofsted is found to have been Defensive And Complacent in its response to a Head Teacher taking her own life. This isjulia waters. Shell be talking to us after her long