Dozen ges of conservative mps now joined by one of the biggest tory beasts of all. Housing secretary michael gove. Handshakes and hugs in parliament tonight, as more and more mps bid farewell, and Andrea Leadsom the latest big beast to go. We hearfrom our election panel. And live from a Sunak Loyalist who is standing. Labours ahead in the polls but is there danger from the left, asJeremy Corbyn says hell stand against the party he led . We talk to a member of the Shadow Cabinet. Also tonight. With policing being stretched now more than ever, could live facial recognition help . And what impact could it have on people who get misidentified . Im just focussed on, you know, getting through. And then all of a sudden thats when i felt the nudge on the shoulder, saying, oh, at that time im wanted. You could call it the big goodbye, the Great Resignation perhaps a giant surrender even. Tonight, as parliament is prorogued, the number of conservative mps standing down continues to grow. Joe pike is here. Is this all a coincidence . Its is not, i is this all a coincidence . Its is not. I was is this all a coincidence . Its is not. I was in is this all a coincidence . Its is not, i was in parliament is this all a coincidence . Its is| not, i was in Parliament Earlier today, not that many people were there but those who were, looked some of them downhearted, a lot of mps carrying big bags out of their offices as they go back to their constituencies for now at least, what has been remarkable today is one we have passed the 1977 levels of conservatives quitting parliament we have reached the number of 80. Partly is because there are loads of conservative mps because they are in power, they have a majority but there are a whole host of other reasons but of course it is a big factor that there are some conservatives who dont want to run, and lose, or run and win and be in a parliament where they are no longer in power, we havent even got to the meat of the campaign, all of that could change, but this stage all the polls are pointing in one pretty clear direction. Michael gove as you mentioned tonight, a big beast leaving the politicaljungle. A fascinating character, because he didnt reach one of the four Great Offices Of State but he has outlasted many of his contemporaries like david cameron, borisjohnson, theresa may, a legacy he would argue in terms of brexit, free schools and some Housing Policy but if we take a step back, what we are seeing is a loss of conservative experience in parliament, but also, a generational change in the party, the conservatives after selection will look a lot younger. Lats conservatives after selection will look a lot younger. Conservatives after selection will look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark. Look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark let look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark. Let us look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark. Let us talk look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark. Let us talk to look a lot younger. Lots more people like clark. Let us talk to the like clark. Let us talk to the panel. Lets hear from our panel sienna rodgers, Senior Writer at the house magazine, james heale, Political Correspondent at the spectator, and luke tryl, uk director of more in common. Now, do you, what do you think is driving this james . What are they telling you the mps . On the ground . Well i think as a mix of factors as joe was saying there, i think it is about personalities and people deciding look, if you are going to go any way, they made a Snap Decision which brought forward, and i think that for them it is about that but a lot are thinking i am not going to keep my seat next time and really some are thinking about will we enjoy ten years of opposition, the thing about michael gove he is someone who was not onlyjust great sort of person in government, etc, but a great thinking in the party and would have reformed think tank he was someone would play a big part in shaping the future hoff the party and a great parliamentary performer, he could have been great in opposition, he is probably only one of two parliamentary speakers we can remember of the last ten years, that and hilary benn in the air strikes. He is a big loss. He is a big loss. How are Labour Viewin he is a big loss. How are Labour Viewing the he is a big loss. 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It is caettin accused of being boring. It is getting the accused of being boring. It is getting the right accused of being boring. It 3 getting the right number of candidates in place in time. Absolutely, think that there a story tonight about all the thousands of pounds that have gone to Michael Goves seat in surrey heath. He has a majority of round 18,000. The Liberal Democrats did quite well there recently and now they have to find a new candidate to go in there. It is ensuring which seats do you save . And i think right now there are very few conservatives who are really said to be safe seats across the country and i think a lot people will be wondering whether they ought to have declared, whether they were going sooner or not. Its a tough fight and as luke said the prevailing mood seems to be one of change, what is striking on labours left is the party that are offering change which is striking. We will aet change which is striking. We will net on change which is striking. We will get on that change which is striking. We will get on that later, change which is striking. We will get on that later, stay change which is striking. We will get on that later, stay there change which is striking. We will get on that later, stay there for. Get on that later, stay there for now but we will put some of this. Ok, lets put some of this to kevin hollinrake, the business minister, and Sunak Loyalist. You are not standing down . No i am lookin you are not standing down . No i am looking forward you are not standing down . No i am looking forward to you are not standing down . No i am looking forward to the you are not standing down . No i am looking forward to the general looking forward to the general election and the campaign. What election and the campaign. What messaue election and the campaign. What message do election and the campaign. What message do your election and the campaign. What message do your think election and the campaign. What message do your think it election and the campaign. What message do your think it stands out some of the biggs beasts are fleeing the ship, have you, knot bothering to fight the election . To fight the election . I think we have a lot to fight the election . I think we have a lot of to fight the election . I think we have a lot of members to fight the election . I think we have a lot of members of to fight the election . I think we have a lot of members of parliament. Some are bound to stand down. Michael gove has been round for 20 years, i was his pps forfive year, john redwood 27 year, there is life after politics and people have Different Reasons for stepping down but we will have candidate, good candidates as michael said, there be new blood entering parliament and thatis new blood entering parliament and that is a good thing for parliament and we are very confident we can fight a Good Campaign and close that gap and get past labour, that is our objective. To gap and get past labour, that is our obective. ,. Gap and get past labour, that is our obective. ,. ,. , , objective. To begin with, obviously we wrapped objective. To begin with, obviously we wrapped op objective. To begin with, obviously we wrapped up parliamentary objective. To begin with, obviously i we wrapped up parliamentary activity today, postalservices we wrapped up parliamentary activity today, Postal Services ministry got through that Compensation Given what happened to the Sub Postmaster but the football, martins law, all dropped . I the football, martins law, all dro ed . The football, martins law, all dropped . The football, martins law, all droued . The football, martins law, all droned . Dropped . I was delighted as you said the convictions dropped . I was delighted as you said the convictions were dropped . I was delighted as you said the convictions were overturned the convictions were overturned today which is a monumental thing for hundreds of people, so, that was the biggest priority, it is very difficult to get in what we call wash up. You have two days to do everything and there is lots of legislation that were not progressed enough to take them through sadly but that is the way things go. They are all there to be reintroduced if we win the next election, if we dont the opposition can choose what they want to do, but, those things, it is not we have lost ambition for these things it is just, they live to fight another day. fik. These things it isjust, they live to fight another day. These things it isjust, they live to fight another day. 0k. Well, let us talk about to fight another day. 0k. Well, let us talk about the to fight another day. 0k. Well, let us talk about the campaign, to fight another day. 0k. Well, let us talk about the campaign, i us talk about the campaign, i mean, do you think is working . Do you think is working . Yes, i do. I think lit work, do you think is working . Yes, i do. I think lit work, because do you think is working . Yes, i do. I think lit work, because i do you think is working . Yes, i do. I think lit work, because i think i think lit work, because i think the first time, you the media as you do, the thing you will do, the things you do best, which is put both leaders under scrutiny and rishi has had a lot of that our Prime Minister. A lot of scrutiny, thatis Prime Minister. A lot of scrutiny, that is what you are there for understandably but there has been precious little scrutiny of keir starmer and lit will become evident that all he does is stand on the sidelines and criticise, he doesnt have a plan. If we have a plan. If you cast your mind back 18 months inflation was 18 , now it is 2 , the economy was forecast to go into deep recession, it is now growing faster than any other in the g7, things are turning round, people can take a risk of course and i hear the word cloud you referred to about change, but, be careful what you wish for, because keir starmer could really take us back a long way, after we have made a lot of progress. Right we can see have made a lot of progress. Right we can see that have made a lot of progress. Right we can see that is have made a lot of progress. Right we can see that is the have made a lot of progress. Right we can see that is the central message but the metaphorical mishaps, it is Ruth Davidson who said is there a double agent in, our candidates deserve better after the sort of the remarkable introduction to the campaign with a, no umbrella, we have the titanic today, doesnt seem to be as slick as we are used to from cp h0. Seem to be as slick as we are used to from cp hq seem to be as slick as we are used to from cp hq. There are substantive ruestions to from cp hq. There are substantive questions that to from cp hq. There are substantive questions that people to from cp hq. There are substantive questions that people want to from cp hq. There are substantive questions that people want to questions that people want to answer, how will we deal with the economy, how will we build on the progress of last few years . We have a clear plan, how we deal with the small boat, people coming across the channel, making the dangerous journey, we have a clear plan for that, rwanda, which will prove a massive deterrent. It that, rwanda, which will prove a massive deterrent. That, rwanda, which will prove a massive deterrent. It hasnt proved an hint massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far. Massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far, has massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far, has it. Massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far, has it. You massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far, has it. You had massive deterrent. It hasnt proved anything so far, has it. You had to l anything so far, has it. You had to pay the one person who went. I dont arree pay the one person who went. I dont a. Ree with pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that. Pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that, you pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that, you read, pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that, you read, i pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that, you read, i am pay the one person who went. I dont agree with that, you read, i am sure| agree with that, you read, i am sure you reported on people going to ireland rather than coming to the uk, it is having an effect. And it will have a greater effect as it gets off the ground. So people can choose, if people want more illegal migration they can vote labourf choose, if people want more illegal migration they can vote labour f you want less, vote conservative. I get the message. Want less, vote conservative. I get the message, labour want less, vote conservative. I get the message, labour say want less, vote conservative. I get the message, labour say they have a plan, we will talk to them later. Later. The timing was a gamble from rishi sunak, he has taken this turn in the economy, and he has taken the timing of the flights and gone for it but he seemed to catch his own party on the hop. It but he seemed to catch his own party on the hop party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going to party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going to call party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going to call an party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going to call an Election Party on the hop. Well, if, if you are going to call an election you | are going to call an election you have to be careful who you tell, because that can leaks out, you know the world of politics so it was very bold but he is very decisive, that is what people want in a leergesd they want somebody who takes bold decision, he done that through covid, the cost of living crisis, he turned the economy round, he will deal with the nhs, the small boats crisis, we know what he stands for, people do not know what Keir Starmer Stands for and it would be worse than we have got now and i think it will be. Fade than we have got now and i think it will be. ~. Than we have got now and i think it will be. ~ ,. ,. , will be. We must leave that there. Thank ou will be. We must leave that there. Thank you for will be. We must leave that there. Thank you forjoining will be. We must leave that there. Thank you forjoining us. This might leave the labour Party Feeling up beat, about the general situation in the election campaign, Joe Pike Isjust going to situation in the election campaign, joe pike is just going to talk to us now, because obviously this has been a big move in terms ofJeremy Corbyn deciding to stand against the party he led only a few years back. How is labour feeling about the threat from the left and how does thisJeremy Corbyn decision feed into that . It is a distraction first of all and it could take a lot of labour resource, because ideally they want to win and win clearly in this seat, but some in the party also argue that it could be the best example of how keir starmer at least would argue that his party has changed. The last general electionJeremy Corbyn was labours candidate to be Prime Minister although keir starmer was backing him at the time, at this time he is no longer in the party, standing against the party, so perhaps the optics, keir starmer will use to argue the partys changed, but, there could be activists to the left of the labour party, who use that constituency as a focal point, some argue it could be a pretty messy campaign, and clear list it is one that the Labour Party Want to win. fiic clear list it is one that the Labour Party Want to win. Clear list it is one that the Labour Party Want to win. 0k. Well, let us seak to party want to win. 0k. Well, let us speak to the party want to win. 0k. Well, let us speak to the shadow party want to win. 0k. Well, let us speak to the shadow transport speak to the shadow transport secretary louise haigh, he is joining us from sheffield. Thanks forjoining us, you were on Jeremy Corbyns front bench, you must be sad to see this. Well, look, its, it is must be sad to see this. Well, look, its. It is far must be sad to see this. Well, look, its, it is far from must be sad to see this. Well, look, its, it is far from ideal, must be sad to see this. Well, look, its, it is far from ideal, the its, it is farfrom ideal, the Situation Thatjeremy Has landed himself in over several years how but keir starmer was absolutely right to remove him, as a labour mp, several years ago now, after he refused to apologise for his role and his leadership in the way he handled the anti semitism crisis in the labour party, and the response to the inquiry by the ehrc, but look, we will fight Islington North just as we will fight every constituency and fight for every vote any this general election, and we are confident that with our credible but radical programme for change across the country that we can win votes across the coalition we need to build. Can win votes across the coalition we need to build. So, i can see that keir starmer we need to build. So, i can see that keir starmer is we need to build. So, i can see that keir starmer is trying we need to build. So, i can see that keir starmer is trying to we need to build. So, i can see that keir starmer is trying to define keir starmer is trying to define himself againstJeremy Corbyns labour, but in 201710 Million People voted forJeremy Corbyns labour, what are you saying to those people who backed him, what are you saying to those people . To those people . Absolutely, and in, but in 2019. To those people . Absolutely, and in, but in 2019. We to those people . Absolutely, and in, but in 2019, we suffered to those people . Absolutely, and in, but in 2019, we suffered the to those people . Absolutely, and in, but in 2019, we suffered the worst i but in 2019, we suffered the worst election defeat in our history, so, we have had to change our party, from top to bottom and keir has made no apologies for that, we have had to look out to the country, and provide a different offer at this general election. But what i would say is that it is built on the rock of economic stability as you will have heard Rachel Reeves say but that doesnt mean it doesnt offer hope or change, i was proud to set out our plans last money on how we will bring railways back into public ownership, here he and ed miliband have been talking about establishing publicly owned Great British energy. Angela rayner has been working to set out our expansion of workers rights, i do think there is a really credible but Ambitious Programme for change that we are setting out, that i believe will attract voters from across the political spectrum and as i say we will fight for every vote in every constituency. One of the issues where you may be losing voters to the left is what happened in gaza. The International Court ofjustice, a development today. Would a Labour Government agree with thejudgment today. Would a Labour Government agree with the judgment that israel should halt incursions into rafah . We support the International Institutions that are there to uphold International Humanitarian law. When we talk about states abiding by international law, there has to be a system and processes which are there to judge and uphold those laws and structures. So, keir starmer has been clear that we support the icj and the icc and we have said for a long time now that we do not support any incursion into rafah by the israeli government. There is already a humanitarian crisis on the ground. Its quite clear now that a full scale offensive would breach international law. , offensive would breach international law. ,. , offensive would breach international law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losin law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes on law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes on the law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes on the left law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes on the left to law. 0k, do you recognise that you are losing votes on the left to the i are losing votes on the left to the greens and independents . Is that ok because you are gaining votes in the centre . Fade because you are gaining votes in the centre . ~. , because you are gaining votes in the centre . ~. ,. ,. Centre . We never want to lose votes, obviousl , centre . We never want to lose votes, obviously, we dont centre . We never want to lose votes, obviously, we dont play fast obviously, we dont play Fast And Loose with any vote. There were issues in certain constituencies and areas with the greens and independents and we have been working hard at a local and National Level to rebuild trust in some of those communities and some of the people who feel very passionately and reasonably about the war in gaza. I have campaigned on the issue of palestine for many years and for recognition for many years of palestine, so i understand why people feel so passionately about this. We are working to rebuild trust. The circumstances have changed dramatically over the last few as well and thats why our position in upholding the International Institutions, the icc and icj, are a crystal clear, now. Thank you. Live facial recognition is being used on our streets more and more. The metropolitan police has ramped up its use and has told newsnight its arrested 192 people so far this year using the technology. But its use in real time means theres very little room for error. Heres james clayton. This is policing with a difference, in Bethnal Green, in east london. Whats going on here looks to be pretty innocuous, but in fact, this is one of the most controversial uses of tech in modern policing. As people walk by this van, their faces are being scanned, checked to see if theyre wanted for questioning by the police. They could be arrested on the spot. Its called live facial recognition, but questions have been raised about its accuracy. Thats when i felt the nudge on the shoulder. Saying, oh, at that time i wanted. And whether using it is even lawful. I think it absolutely is a wild west at the moment. Thats what creates this legal uncertainty. Facial recognition has become incredibly powerful. Last year, i filmed with a us Company Called clearview that provides facial Recognition Systems for us law enforcement. I gave them this photo and out pops images of me from the web. It can be astonishingly accurate. In east london, the day we filmed, the metropolitan police told the bbc that six people were arrested as a result of the tech, some for serious crimes. We spoke to people whod been flagged by police, who confirmed that the id was correct. But that doesnt mean the system is perfect. Sean is an anti knife campaigner and works for the Youth Advocacy Group street fathers. Youre good . On his way back home in London Bridge in february, he was stopped by the police. As im walking through, i saw a van. It wasnt plated with all the police stickers. It was a plain white van. I walked past that. Im not really. Im just focused on getting to where im going, getting through. And then all of a sudden, thats when i felt the nudge on the shoulder, saying, oh, at that time, im wanted. They asked if i had id. I said no, i got my bank card. But they start asking me about fingerprints. I said no. I dont give you no fingerprints. He was held for around 20 minutes, only being let go when he provided a copy of his passport. It wasnt him. How did it make you feel . Very angry. Im doing something good. So youre guilty before proven innocent . Thats how it looks to me. The bbc understands the mistake may have been due to a family resemblance. The met didnt want to comment on the stop. Big brother watch, a group that campaigns against the use of facial recognition, filmed the stop. Orwell would be rolling in his grave to think about live facial recognition cameras across the streets of london. In real time, you have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people walking down the street, minding their own business who are effectively part of a police line up. The sensible thing to do is to proactively seek people out if theyre wanted by the police. The metropolitan police didnt want to be interviewed as part of this piece, but they did tell the bbc that the vast majority of its stops are correct, that only one in 33,000 people walking by its cameras are mis id� d. But for the people who triggered an alert, the figure is far less. According to the met� s own figures, about one in 40 people flagged this year by the technology is a false alert. Its notjust the police, though, that uses live facial recognition. With shoplifting becoming an increasing problem, retailers have also begun using it. Sara was out shopping in a Home Bargains store. Shes asked to remain anonymous, because she doesnt want to be associated with the crime that she was inaccurately accused of. Within less than a minute, im approached by a store worker who is. Comes up to me and he says, youre a thief. You need to leave the store. So he accused you of being a thief . Yeah. Youve been identified as, like, someone whos stolen before. Youre banned from all Home Bargains, all co op, all sports direct. You can never go in these shops anywhere in the uk. And i was like, what . Why . Like, how can i fix this . Sara had been flagged by a Facial Recognition System Run by a Company Called facewatch. I kind of thought like, oh, will my life be the same . Like, am i going to be looked at as like a shoplifter, when ive never stolen . And i was just crying and crying like the entire journey home. After challenging the match, facewatch eventually accepted that the match was a case of mistaken identity. Facewatch told the bbc. Home bargains declined to comment. This technology is new and the laws governing the tech are unclear. Michael birtwhistle works at the ada lovelace institute, and hes looked into the legality of this tech. We need primary legislation in order to achieve a sort of sufficient Legal Framework for this. In practice, that means someone being put in charge, either an existing regulator or a new regulator. It would mean someone thats setting the standards of how these technologies are used, to make sure that they are held to scientifically validated levels of accuracy. There are other concerns, too, that the technology misidentifies people of colour more often an accusation that the metropolitan police disputes. People we spoke to in diverse Bethnal Green were broadly positive about the tech. Were advancing as humans. Thats clearly a sign of advancement. So bring it on. I think its a little bit scary. I think it represents the proliferation of surveillance into kind of every day. Yeah. This is a smart technique. Its a very smart technique to get people who are not. Who think theyve gotten away with a crime that they committed. But for how long will this technology be effective . Wont criminals begin avoiding these vans . And wont shoplifters get better at concealing their identities . The question for this tech is where does it go then . Fascinating film. Back to the panel now. It is worth looking at the papers, Something Interesting going on. One story dominating, michael gove waits, shock exit rocking tories. The daily mirror, and also the same story in the times and i. But in the daily mail, Shadow Chancellor makes a pledge to daily mail as, Rachel Reeves, ill never play Fast And Loose with your money. Probably more of a story if shed said the opposite but there is a bit of ftse going on between the labour party in the daily mail, which is it not . Very interesting. I wouldnt have run that as an exclusive myself. Theres nothing there part from i will be a good chancellor. Theres nothing there part from i will be a good chancellor. There was a warm editorial will be a good chancellor. There was a warm editorial on will be a good chancellor. There was a warm editorial on thursday will be a good chancellor. There was a warm editorial on thursday too. I a warm editorial on thursday too. 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