Is one of the most powerful things that came out of this news conference, saying that behind every one of those thousands of people, Tens Of Thousands, they said who were affected, is a family. And thats a reminder, they said that saying sorry would go some way, but what would you be saying sorry for . But they would welcome an apology and it is expected when we hear from the Prime Minister later this afternoon there may be an apology on behalf of the government. And i want tojust behalf of the government. And i want to just say that in the last ten minutes or so, we saw some of the relatives behind me. You can still see them there in the distance and theyre holding a banner, its got theyre holding a banner, its got the faces of their beloved on it and the faces of their beloved on it and the caption simply says murdered. Thats the view that people feel here. It felt that many of the report felt that many of the deaths were largely avoidable, and the takeaway is the frustration and anger that this could have happened in the first place. Im joined by sarah westby, a solicitor who represents around 300 clients who are advocating for justice. Represents around 300 clients who are advocating forjustice. What is your reaction . Youve got the report, thousands of pages. From a legal perspective, what is your view on this . ~. ,. , g; i legal perspective, what is your view on this . ~. ,. , ;; . , legal perspective, what is your view onthis . ,. ,~, . , on this . Well, for our 300 or so clients that on this . Well, for our 300 or so clients that we on this . Well, for our 300 or so clients that we represent on this . Well, for our 300 or so clients that we represent in on this . Well, for our 300 or so clients that we represent in this | clients that we represent in this inquiry, we welcome the report and absolutely, vindication for the years of struggling to be heard, struggling to get to the truth and constantly being pushed back. Its a Fight Forjustice constantly being pushed back. Its a fight for justice that constantly being pushed back. Its a Fight Forjustice that has gone on forfour Fight Forjustice that has gone on for four decades, Fight Forjustice that has gone on forfour decades, five now, and what the report finds is a litany of failures, individual, collective, systemic levels, as he said, largely avoidable, and together, the chair of the inquiry sir Brian Langstaff calls those failure is amounting to a calamity failures amounting to a calamity failures amounting to a calamity, so strongly worded and welcomed as vindication for our clients who have fought for so long. Use of the word calamity and the phrase largely avoidable, it begs the question, how did it get to a point where it was able to continue, this treatment was able to be continued even though people were speaking up and saying, in letters as far back as the early 1980s, that this should stop . I as far back as the early 1980s, that this should stop . This should stop . I think people were not listened this should stop . I think people were not listened to this should stop . I think people were not listened to and this should stop . I think people were not listened to and thatsl this should stop . I think people. Were not listened to and thats why its so important today for our clients because they feel they have been heard by sir brian and his report. The report uses words like inaccurate, misleading and inaccu rate, misleading and defensive inaccurate, misleading and defensive lines to take by the authorities which it calls cruel, which is so important to hear because that is the reason why it has taken so long, decades and decades, to get to today because people havent been heard and they havent been believed when i think what we know now is that this wasnt right. What we know now is that this wasnt ri. Ht. ,. , what we know now is that this wasnt riuht. ,. , right. This inquiry has lasted a number of right. This inquiry has lasted a number of years. Right. This inquiry has lasted a number of years. What right. This inquiry has lasted a number of years. What would | right. This inquiry has lasted a i number of years. What would you right. This inquiry has lasted a number of years. What would you say were the most compelling testimonies . Were the most compelling testimonies . V , . Were the most compelling testimonies . H ,. , testimonies . Its very difficult to ick out testimonies . Its very difficult to pick out any testimonies . Its very difficult to pick out any testimonies testimonies . Its very difficult to | pick out any testimonies because each clients story is unique and uniquely devastating. I dont think i will everforget the uniquely devastating. I dont think i will ever forget the clients stories ive been told, the other stories ive been told, the other stories out been heard i have heard throughout which have brought people to tears, stories of the devastation, in terms of peoples physical and mental health, effects on their lives, work, education, relationships and the stigma of these deadly viruses. Relationships and the stigma of these deadly viruses. Theres so much to take these deadly viruses. Theres so much to take away these deadly viruses. Theres so much to take away from these deadly viruses. Theres so much to take away from that. I these deadly viruses. Theres so | much to take away from that. So these deadly viruses. Theres so much to take away from that. So many of our viewers will just much to take away from that. So many of our viewers willjust be tuning in who want to know what the main headlines of it are. We will go through those and they are available on the bbc news website and we will continue to recap them, but one of the takeaways that really struck me when i was talking to our Health Editor was the fact that this report says there was the deliberate destruction of documents that might have actually helped uncover this sooner. I have actually helped uncover this sooner. ~ have actually helped uncover this sooner. ~. , � , have actually helped uncover this sooner. ~. � ,. , sooner. I think thats really important sooner. I think thats really important for sooner. I think thats really important for our sooner. I think thats really important for our clients i sooner. I think thats really important for our clients to j sooner. I think thats really important for our clients to hear because its such an important point which is made in the report and the problem with it taking so long to get to this Public Inquiry is documents have been destroyed, documents have been destroyed, documents have been lost, we have not been able to hear from individuals because they are no longer around to give testimony to the inquiry. Nevertheless, sir brian saysin the inquiry. Nevertheless, sir brian says in the report he has still been able to come to the conclusions he has which is a very good result for our clients. 50 has which is a very good result for our clients has which is a very good result for our clients. ,. ,. ,. , our clients. So when you hear, as we heard and that our clients. So when you hear, as we heard and that news our clients. So when you hear, as we heard and that news conference, heard and that news conference, campaigners, Family Members saying it saying it was a cover up, would you say that those words are fair . In would you say that those words are fair . ,. ,. , would you say that those words are fair . ,. ,. , fair . In terms of the report saying that the authorities fair . In terms of the report saying that the authorities gave fair . In terms of the report saying l that the authorities gave inaccurate lines, misleading lines and were very defensive over the decades, yes, it does sound as if that is. What would you say is the most shocking part about this, given that we knew that this was happening and people fought for this to come to this stage of the inquiry . Is that the biggest takeaway . I this stage of the inquiry . Is that the biggest takeaway . This stage of the inquiry . Is that the biggest takeaway . I think so, eo le the biggest takeaway . I think so, peeple have the biggest takeaway . I think so, people have needed the biggest takeaway . I think so, people have needed and the biggest takeaway . I think so, people have needed and wanted | the biggest takeaway . I think so, | people have needed and wanted to the biggest takeaway . I think so, people have needed and wanted to be heard but they have been silenced. Its hard to fight for justice heard but they have been silenced. Its hard to Fight Forjustice when youve been silenced but they havent given up on today really as vindication of that fight. What havent given up on today really as vindication of that fight. Vindication of that fight. What are the suggestions vindication of that fight. What are the suggestions and vindication of that fight. What are the suggestions and recommendations from this report . We will wait for the ambulance to pass. What would you say the lessons from sir brian proposes to avoid Something Like this happening again . We proposes to avoid Something Like this happening again . Proposes to avoid Something Like this happening again . We have 12 recommendations this happening again . We have 12 recommendations set this happening again . We have 12 recommendations set out this happening again . We have 12 recommendations set out in this happening again . We have 12 recommendations set out in full. This happening again . We have 12 I Recommendations set out in full and i wont go through them all now. Weve got some really good recommendations on Patient Safety and candour which is testament to our clients commitment to try to ensure this never happens again. Number one as compensation without further delay in sir brians report number one is compensation. Lifelong care and treatment for people who have been affected and important to hear for our clients. And candour, and he recommends extending the duty of candour to Government Officials and nhs leaders which we really welcome on behalf of our clients as well, that would have helped ensure this could not go on for so long without being sorted out. For so long without being sorted out,. , for so long without being sorted out. ,. ,. , out. Some people were saying that all the remit out. Some people were saying that all the remit wasnt out. Some people were saying that all the remit wasnt about out. Some people were saying that all the remit wasnt about any all the remit wasnt about any prosecutions, you heard some people saying they felt that the doctors who were involved at the time, although many might be long retired by now, they felt they should be prosecuted for manslaughter from a legal Point Of View where does the school if anywhere . Trier . Legal Point Of View where does the school if anywhere . School if anywhere . Very difficult to Comment School if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on school if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on that school if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on that and school if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on that and i school if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on that and i think i school if anywhere . Very difficult to comment on that and i think itj to comment on that and i think it would be for the Prosecutorial Authority is to review that and see where it goes. Irefill authority is to review that and see where it gem where it goes. Will you or your clients be taking where it goes. Will you or your clients be taking any where it goes. Will you or your clients be taking any further. Where it goes. Will you or your clients be taking any further cases with the findings . We clients be taking any further cases with the findings . With the findings . We will be lookin with the findings . We will be looking to with the findings . We will be looking to see with the findings . We will be looking to see what with the findings . We will be looking to see what the with the findings . We will be looking to see what the government say in response and if they implement the recommendations. We are pleased to see there is an ongoing monitoring role by the chair for parliamentary scrutiny to see that the recommendations are acted upon so we will be watching and listening carefully to see if that happens. If not, we will take any necessary action. Happens. If not, we will take any necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister to necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister to say necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister to say sorry . Necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister to say sorry . I necessary action. Would you like the Prime Minister to say sorry . I thinkl Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an a olo Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an apology is Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an apology is really Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an apology is really important, Prime Minister to say sorry . I think an apology is really important, i i an apology is really important, i dont think there has been a full apology. Sir brian says that an apology. Sir brian says that an apology cannot be a simple we are sorry for the suffering it has to be meaningful and set out what is being apologised for, the ronx, the errors, the denials and the delay. The wrongs. Errors, the denials and the delay. The wronge the wrongs. This goes over so many different the wrongs. This goes over so many different administrations. The wrongs. This goes over so l many different administrations and governments. Many different administrations and governmenta many different administrations and rovernments. ,. , governments. Yes, it has gone across executive governments governments. Yes, it has gone across executive governments for governments. Yes, it has gone across executive governments for many governments. Yes, it has gone across| executive governments for many years now and yesterday we heard from both main parties that they would be listening to the criticisms made of them in the final report. Im hopeful that this will continue. Thank you, sarah westlb, representing around 300 clients many of them here today Sarah Westerby. Of them here today Sarah Westerby of them here today sarah westerb. ,. ,. ,. , westerby. Yes, it is a lot to digest in this report westerby. Yes, it is a lot to digest in this report but westerby. Yes, it is a lot to digest in this report but it westerby. Yes, it is a lot to digest in this report but it is westerby. Yes, it is a lot to digest in this report but it is bittersweetl in this report but it is bittersweet for many of them, it is too late for some. , ~ for many of them, it is too late for some. ~ , for many of them, it is too late for some. ~ i. ,. , some. Thank you for oining us. Takin some. Thank you for oining us. Raking us some. Thank you for oining us. Taking us through some. Thank you forjoining us. Taking us through that some. Thank you forjoining us. Taking us through that report i some. Thank you forjoining us. Taking us through that report which has just come out. Well, as we were hearing, this report runs into the thousands of pages and behind me in the background you can see relatives and victims who have gathered here, they have been here this morning reading that report, we have heard the reaction, we heard cheering and applause, there has been a real sense of solidarity in a really sad way, people have come together through the tragedy that they share and there are so many people here who feel a sense of anger, relief, most of all, one word that keeps coming up is vindication because these people have been saying for years that something wasnt right and that something needed to be done. What we heard in that inquiry, one of the main findings, was that there was a deliberate destruction of documents and that really does make people think why was that the case, was there a cover up . Why was this not looked at sooner . A real sense of relief but also a sense of closure and, later today, were going to be hearing from the Prime Minister, we in the house of commons. There is some speculation that he may issue an apology on behalf of the government. My colleague, our health correspondent, Sophie Hutchinson has more on those developments. Some of the Tens Of Thousands of people infected with hiv and hepatitis c in the 1970s, 19805 hiv and hepatitis c in the 1970s, 1980s and early 90s by contaminated blood. Today, the final report into the scandal described the scale of what happened is horrifying and sad lives, dreams, friendships, families and finances were destroyed by it. I think the scale speaks for itself. If you have over 30,000 people going to hospital and come out with infections which were life shattering, that in itself is huge. And the suffering for them and for others is huge. The inquiry has spent four years taking evidence from more than 5,000 witnesses and examined 100,000 documents. Its concluded this was a disaster not an accident, that those in authority, doctors, Blood Services and governments did not put Patient Safety first and that patients were knowingly exposed to unacceptable risks of infection. Andy evans has haemophilia, a bleeding disorder. He is one of 30,000 people infected by the treatment he received. By the time he was five years old he had hiv and hepatitis c, and at 13 he had developed full blown aids. My mum took me out for a drive one day in the countryside when i was 13. She pulled up, i thought this was really weird, but then she turned to me with tears in her eyes and she said, ive got something to tell you. Do you know what hiv is . Andy has run a Campaign Group for victims for almost 20 years, and today he gave his reaction to the report. As amazing as this report is, i just cant help feeling that there are so many that we have lost along the way that really ought to be here to see this as well. The report says children were betrayed by being used in medical trials without their knowledge or informed consent. It says patients were not informed of the risks of their treatment, including the risks posed by blood transfusions. This was nurse Cathy 0sborne 25 years ago with her husband neil cox, a young doctor. Neil had explained before they were married that hed been infected with Hepatitis C Following a blood transfusion. He died just two years into their marriage. Cathy came to the inquiry today. She said you can carry grief forever. People are still dying now, it was wrong. I want an apology, i think, for what happened, recognition of what happened. And not just an apology for apologys sake, an apology that takes into consideration all that weve been through, myself, neils family, his friends, his mother, at 92, has missed out a whole 22 years without her son. And its about time someone stood up and was accountable for that. The report says the damage caused by the contaminated blood was compounded by the reaction of the nhs and the medical profession and by successive governments who used inaccurate, misleading and defensive lines, telling people they had received the best treatment. This is a day of unparalleled importance for these families. This report shines an unflinching light on the catalogue of failings that they have faced. An apology is expected later today from government, but this is notjust a look back at the past. The inquiry says that apology must be accompanied by action. Last night, people infected and families held a vigil in westminster. Todays report has urged the government to bring in full compensation for them without further delay. A statement from ministers is expected in the coming days. Sophie hutchinson, bbc news. You saw sir Brian Langstaff, the chair of the inquiry in that report. Lets hear more from him now. What ive found is that that disaster was no accident. People put their trust in the nhs and the government and doctors to keep them safe and that trust was betrayed. And then i found that the government responded in a way which made the agony worse. They repeatedly said that nothing wrong had happened. That people had had the best available treatment, and they said that when tests were reproduced for the viruses, that was soon as the technology was available, and both those things were lies. Thats what ive been looking at and what im recommending as a result, it is compensation must be paid without delay and ive made various other recommendations to make the future safer and the nhs a better place. Let me put into context, what ive been looking at a people from families across the uk who have gone into hospitalfor families across the uk who have gone into hospital for treatment, families across the uk who have gone into hospitalfor treatment, and into hospital for treatment, and over 30,000 into hospitalfor treatment, and over 30,000 have come out with infections which were life shattering. And 33,000 of those have died and deaths keep on happening week by week. What ive found is that disaster was no accident. People put their trust in doctors and the government to keep them safe and the government to keep them safe and that trust was betrayed. And then the government compounded the agony by telling them that nothing wrong had been done, that they had had the best available treatment and that as soon as tests were available they were introduced in both of those statements were untrue. Thats why what im recommending is that compensation must be paid now and ive made various other recommendations to help to make the future of the nhs better and treatment safer. 5ir future of the nhs better and treatment safer. Future of the nhs better and treatment safer. Sir brian has headed up treatment safer. Sir brian has headed up this treatment safer. Sir brian has headed up this inquiry treatment safer. Sir brian has headed up this inquiry and i treatment safer. Sir brian has headed up this inquiry and his report runs into the thousands of pages. Just a summary of some of the main points that have come out of that, he says that the scandal could largely have been avoided. He says there was a pervasive cover up to hide the truth, something that families weve heard from so far find really hard because they say that they have been trying to raise awareness and attention to this for years, for decades in fact. He also says there were deliberate attempts made to conceal the disaster, including evidence of whitehall officials destroying documents. He said that patients were knowingly exposed to unacceptable levels of infection, and he found a catalogue of failures which had catastrophic consequences. He described this whole episode as a calamity. A damning report. Joining me now is ellie price. I calamity. He doesnt mince his words, this was a complete disaster. A calamity. But so many families have been going on about this for years. Have been going on about this for ears. ,. ,. ,. , , years. They have, and it has been really telling. Years. They have, and it has been really telling, we years. They have, and it has been really telling, we saw years. They have, and it has been really telling, we saw the years. They have, and it has been really telling, we saw the press i really telling, we saw the Press Conference a short time ago and i think its really unusual you get victims who are this emotional and affected, they have been through so much, and its really telling that they are pretty much very supportive of the inquiry and its findings. They talk about being validated and vindicated by what the inquiry has found, they feel they have been gas lit for generations and this brings an end to all that, sometimes we felt sometimes we felt like we were shouting in the win for a0 years. Its quite telling just how damning sir brian has been in this inquiry to get that reaction from victims and what happens next will be the crucial point. For many of the victims, it was about that accountability, it was about the fact that somebody had listened to them and someone was taking their stories are seriously, exactly what had happened. What we will expect this afternoon is an apology from the government, thats a statement taking place in the commons in a couple of hours time. We expect that to be from the Prime Minister, that to be from the Prime Minister, that something many of these campaigners have been calling for, a formal apology from the government. Some went further in that Press Conference saying they wanted specific apologies from individuals named in the inquiry as to whether its enough for everybody remains to be seen, it depends what is said. Then we get onto the big question of compensation which is a big part of the inquiry, no surprise, we had already heard that sir brian was going to talk about that, but we are going to talk about that, but we are going to talk about that, but we are going to get more details about how thats going to play out or we should get more details over the next couple of days. The government has already paid interim payments of about £100,000 for a,000 victims and some of their partners. We know from this inquiry, we got more details, on who should get it and the talks about how much, what the grounds for compensation should be, so that will also include parents of children who are infected and children who lost parents, the affected as well as the infected. ,. ,. , infected. Drilling down into the re ort a infected. Drilling down into the report a bit infected. Drilling down into the report a bit more, infected. Drilling down into the report a bit more, one infected. Drilling down into the| report a bit more, one question infected. Drilling down into the report a bit more, one question that comes up again and again when you talk to people is how could it have happened in the first place . Why was the so called wonder solution, this treatment, factorviii the so called wonder solution, this treatment, factor viii for example, why was that nonstop earlier when there were so many warnings . And this inquiry has seen some of the documents, some of the correspondence from various bodies and some doctors and professors who warned about this, because it was infected with hiv and hepatitis c. What more did the Inquiry Reveal about that . The what more did the Inquiry Reveal about that . About that . The language is outstanding, about that . The language is outstanding, its about that . The language is| outstanding, its astonishing about that . The language is i outstanding, its astonishing to anyone who reads these events that this could have happened in the uk, says 0brien. This could largely, although not entirely, have been avoided. He talks about viral infections that were known about as early as 198a, and he talks about the scale being horrifying that victims were failed repeatedly and he talks about being failed by the government and also the nhs and that those unacceptable risks were understood, that imported blood from the us carried a huge risk, and also the us carried a huge risk, and also theissue the us carried a huge risk, and also the issue of testing, how testing for infections like hiv and hepatitis c could have been done earlier, but it wasnt, and like you say, we have this criticism of risks that were understood, ignored and covered up, subtle, pervasive, chilling cover ups of what happened, hiding the truth and the lack of openness and downright deception. Downright deception is how documents relating to the inquiry were destroyed so they could not be poured over, so the criticism is damning from early on, that risk factor, then the avoidance bit and then the covering up bit. It is basically all consuming, this was a disaster, not an accident, he said, and i could go on, there are 2500 pages of this in seven volumes. We havent got through all of it. One quick mention were saying, we heard about how children were victims of all of this as well and there are certain areas in which they were actually tested on. There was evidence that children were treated unnecessarily with unsafe treatments and that some were used as objects of research. Thats talking about certain areas where kids were given factor viii, for example, children who were haemophilic, and were given factor viii when the risks were known yet still give in it. Plenty more to poured over in all of this but in headline after headline. Thank you very much for the moment. Earlier i spoke to Katie Wolford whose father was a haemophiliac infected with hiv and hepatitis c. I spoke to her before the findings were released and i asked if she wanted an apology from the British Government. I wanted an apology from the British Government government. I think an apology is one thing. Government. I think an apology is one thing. Its government. I think an apology is one thing, its also government. I think an apology is one thing, its also the one thing, its also the accountability that comes from that, the ability to say that those in power before then had made decisions that made a detrimental impact on thousands of peoples lives and continue to do so. The government and the nhs, other things i would like to come from those still other things i would like to come from this is those responsible who are still alive, they face lawful consequences, as well as the Compensation Scheme granted, the dates of the scheme for the parents, the spouses and the children. Joining me now is ronan fitzgerald, whose Motherjane Fitzgerald died at the age of 53 from hepatitis c related illnesses. Thank you forjoining us here today. It must be a day filled with emotion. How are you feeling now you have seen the report . Its emotion. How are you feeling now you have seen the report . Have seen the report . Its an incredible have seen the report . Its an incredible day, have seen the report . Its an incredible day, its have seen the report . Its an incredible day, its hard have seen the report . Its an incredible day, its hard to i have seen the report . Its an| incredible day, its hard to put everything into words, so many adjectives you could use, i thought this day would never come. Weve had so many false dawns over the years where you build yourself up to get the news you need to hear and its devastating. Today does feel very different, the weather is with us, it feels very poignant. Seeing everything in black and white for the first time was an emotional thing to see and read, it is affirmation of the way i have been feeling over the last 15, 20 years of campaigning and fighting for the justice that i promised my mum on her deathbed. Im so privileged to be here and im looking forward to seeing this come to an end, we need to move on from this. To move on from this. There Are Thousands to move on from this. There Are Thousands of to move on from this. There Are Thousands of pages to move on from this. There Are Thousands of pages and to move on from this. There Are Thousands of pages and i to move on from this. There are | thousands of pages and i havent to move on from this. There Are Thousands of pages and i havent had time to go through it line by line yet, but some of the words, calamity, disaster, catastrophe, things that people like you and other Family Members things that people like you and otherFamily Members or things that people like you and other Family Members or other survivors have been saying for years. Survivors have been saying for ears. ~ , y survivors have been saying for ears. ~ ,. , survivors have been saying for ears. N,. ,. , years. Absolutely, the words i have used for years years. Absolutely, the words i have used for years within years. Absolutely, the words i have used for years within the years. Absolutely, the words i have | used for years within the community for people that ive supported and people that have supported me at my lowest times. Its just hard to believe that it is all happening now. But to read those words that this was no accident, which to stand here and say that now, is just so powerful, i would here and say that now, is just so powerful, iwould probably here and say that now, is just so powerful, i would probably say it in a different way but we know what that means, it was no accident. We have this for decades. Some people longer than myself but this was no accident and the truth is finally coming out and im waiting to see whats going to from this. Since this is a day whats going to from this. Since this is a day of whats going to from this. Since this is a day of reckoning whats going to from this. Since this is a day of reckoning in whats going to from this. Since i this is a day of reckoning in some way, who do you blame . fin this is a day of reckoning in some way, who do you blame . Way, who do you blame . On an individual way, who do you blame . On an individual basis, way, who do you blame . On an individual basis, its way, who do you blame . On an individual basis, its hard way, who do you blame . On an individual basis, its hard for. Way, who do you blame . On an| individual basis, its hard for me to say. It was the previous governments making decisions, they chose profit, saving money over human life. The nhs have failed to screen the blood, they failed to recall people like my mother to make her wait 25 years of what they did to her and then not treat her, not educate the people that were there to give her the after care that she and others deserved, itsjust to give her the after care that she and others deserved, its just been and others deserved, its just been a failure all the way through and thats one of the major things i can take from the report, failing all the way along. Itjust reaffirms the way i have felt for so many years. You got some of the answers youve been waiting for for a long time, what action do you want now . Hoop what action do you want now . How lona have what action do you want now . How long have we what action do you want now . How long have we got . What action do you want now . How long have we got . I what action do you want now . Firm long have we got . I want to see those responsible for the murderous crimes be held to account. If i committed the crimes that they did, i would expect to be locked away and given a Life Sentence so i would like to see those responsible named, shamed, mbes stripped. fir like to see those responsible named, shamed, mbes stripped. Shamed, mbes stripped. Or are we talkin shamed, mbes stripped. Or are we talking about shamed, mbes stripped. Or are we talking about now . Shamed, mbes stripped. Or are we talking about now . There shamed, mbes stripped. Or are we talking about now . There were talking about now . There were doctors back in the day then politicians and heads of hospitals, who do you think should be held accountable . And how . Its a tricky question because the individuals, ifind that its a tricky question because the individuals, i find that hard because it goes back so long, but it is the government that both the products, they failed to make the uk self sufficient in its blood supplies. To then carry on administering those Blood Products and not recalling them, they played Russian Roulette with peoples lives. They all know who they are and im sure the inquiry team will know who they are, as well. Time will tell. Some know who they are, as well. Time will tell. Some politicians know who they are, as well. Time will tell. Some politicians appeared before here, as well. Before here, as well. Absolutely. The all before here, as well. Absolutely. They all know before here, as well. Absolutely. They all know who before here, as well. Absolutely. They all know who they before here, as well. Absolutely. They all know who they are. Before here, as well. Absolutely. They all know who they are. This| before here, as well. Absolutely. I they all know who they are. This is a time of reckoning. Itjust shows that