And i think i can go back to the last page, actually, just to show you again what those numbers are, totting up all the totals, the bbc Election Team have added them altogether and this is it. Sadiq khan, 1,080,000 votes, susan hall way behind on 811,000. The greens almost pipped the lib dems into third place, they will be pleased with that. But stand back, the big result, sadiq khan gets that third term as london mayor. That result, sadiq khan gets that third term as london mayor. Term as london mayor. That is unprecedented, term as london mayor. That is unprecedented, i term as london mayor. That is unprecedented, i think, term as london mayor. That is unprecedented, ithink, is term as london mayor. That is| unprecedented, ithink, is not . Term as london mayor. That is unprecedented, i think, is not . This unprecedented, ithink, is not . This comes despite this incredible flutter we had last night, saying that the race was going to be much tighter than predicted. How did we get into that position . I tighter than predicted. How did we get into that position . Tighter than predicted. How did we get into that position . I mean, the sto ive get into that position . I mean, the story ive heard get into that position . I mean, the story ive heard from get into that position . I mean, the story ive heard from people get into that position . I mean, the story ive heard from people in get into that position . I mean, the story ive heard from people in the j story ive heard from people in the Conservative Party hq story ive heard from people in the Conservative Party h0 is that there were some activists thought things were some activists thought things were better, they told people, and that got out. Its pretty clear when you look at that whats happened. In the second i will show you a couple of areas we had in over the last little while to explain to you how it has got to this point that sadiq khan has won by such a margin. The really important thing, the thing weve been talking about all afternoon on bbc news, when we called it early and said we thought labour were going to win, it was based on this average of swings. Its been happening all over the course of the afternoon. In all 1a Constituencies across london that were counting, we were seeing a lot of swings that averaged around 3. 2 . Let me dive into this a bit. I can show you more of the results. Lets take the example of hearing at redbridge. 0uter take the example of hearing at redbridge. Outer london, one of those places where the conservatives would have hoped to do well because of that issue of ulez, the low emissions zone that was extended to 0uter Emissions Zone that was extended to outer london and which angered a lot of people, i think it is fair to say. Susan hall won, we always expected that. But her vote was actually down, and there was this pretty tiny swing still from the conservatives to labour of 0. 6 . So susan hall would have wanted the opposite to happen if she was going to beat sadiq khan. That sort of result added to the momentum that sadiq khan was going to win. Here is another one, lambeth and southwark, more central london, one of the day areas where labour would always do well. Sadiq khan has won there by a country mile. But again, his vote is way up, the conservative vote is down. I look at that, a big swing from conservative to labour. I dont have these stats in front of me, but one of the questions i think that will be interesting to chat through with sadiq khan as and when he does interviews is across parts of england in the local councils where there was a big muslim population, we saw the Labour Vote Go Down by about 20 , quite a significant trend over the course of thursday. That doesnt seem to have happened in london, though. Iwill get doesnt seem to have happened in london, though. I will get this back up london, though. I will get this back up in a second and show you the swing overall. The fact that overall, the labour vote has actually gone up and the swing has been from labour. Sorry, from the conservatives to labour, that is the overall swing from the average of the whole 1a overall swing from the average of the whole1li constituencies that make up the london area for the Mayoral Elections. It suggests there are some parts of the country that have bucked that trend, even in parts of london where there is a big muslim population, sadiq khan has necessarily seen the effect we saw in places like 0ldham, where the labour vote went down. In places like 0ldham, where the labour vote went down. Nick, thanks ve much labour vote went down. Nick, thanks very much for labour vote went down. Nick, thanks very much for bringing labour vote went down. Nick, thanks very much for bringing us labour vote went down. Nick, thanks very much for bringing us that very much for bringing us that confirmation of the results in london. Chris mason is letting us know that a check is going on at the birmingham count for the West Midlands mayor, it is reported to very, very close between andy street and his labour counterpart. We will go to that as soon as we get the results. Professor sirjohn curtice, confirmation that sadiq khan has achieved a third term as mayor of london. It achieved a third term as mayor of london. ,. ,. , london. It has been a relatively comfortable london. It has been a relatively comfortable victory london. It has been a relatively comfortable victory with london. It has been a relatively comfortable victory with a london. It has been a relatively i comfortable victory with a majority of around ten percentage points. As nick eardley has pointed out, it seems as though in the capital at least the Muslim Community seems not to have reacted, at least as far as we can tell, does not seem to have reacted against the labour party as they appear to have done in other parts of england. So maybe sadiq khan is a fellow member of the community was perhaps more insulated than some of the other Labour Candidates elsewhere. The second thing, the dog didnt willy bach, the ulez from a little bit of evidence that may be the conservative vote didnt go down quite so much in those places. Make the dog that didnt really bark. But certainly, the story that emerged after the 0xbridge by election of a significant rebellion an uxbridge that was getting people to vote conservative in big numbers, that is not substantiated by whats happened in this Mayoral Election and that that has an effect more broadly perhaps on some distance that the governor has taken on net zero. 0ne on some distance that the governor has taken on net zero. One other thing we can add to about the West Midlands, that is that the figures for wolverhampton have now also been published on the website on which the official results have been placed, and there, the swing to labour is 9 . That is well above what Richard Parker, the labour candidate, needs in order to unseat andy street and certainly our understanding from what reputable journalists have said on twitter is that the Bundle Cheque has been requested by andy street. The bundle check. Requested by andy street. The bundle check. Requested by andy street. The bundle check. What would that tell us . I should bundle check. What would that tell us . I should say bundle check. What would that tell us . I should say it bundle check. What would that tell us . I should say it is bundle check. What would that tell us . I should say it is usually bundle check. What would that tell us . I should say it is usually the i us . I should say it is usually the case that the us . I should say it is usually the case that the person us . I should say it is usually the case that the person who us . I should say it is usually the l case that the person who requests us . I should say it is usually the case that the person who requests a bundle check or a recount, a bundle checkis bundle check or a recount, a bundle check is just checking that. Devotes are put together into bundles and it is just a check to make sure there isnt a bundle that should be allocated to Andy Street Thatis should be allocated to andy street that is maybe gone to Richard Parker. Its not a full recount. A full recount is when you literally go through all the ballot papers. If somebody requests a recount, they are the person who at this stage is behind. Taste are the person who at this stage is behind. ~. , �. ,. , behind. We dont want to ump the nun behind. We dont want to ump the gun because i behind. We dont want to ump the gun because at behind. We dont want to ump the gun because it is h behind. We dont want to ump the gun because it is very behind. We dont want to jump the gun because it is very tight behind. We dont want to jump the gun because it is very tight and gun because it is very tight and there are a lot of conservative hopes pinned on andy street. Yeo valley has the personal record, profile, popularity. Richard parker let stand on a national stage. It would be a big concert for the tories if they lost it. It would be a big concert for the tories if they lost it. Would be a big concert for the tories if they lost it. It would be a disappointment. Tories if they lost it. It would be a disappointment. But tories if they lost it. It would be a disappointment. But the tories if they lost it. It would be i a disappointment. But the honest truth is, in all of these mayoral contests, we have been seeing swings from conservative to labour. Mr street is not necessarily immune to the laws of political gravity, and whereas ben houchen had an incredibly large majority to defend because he was so successful back in 2021, mr street was always fighting a much more marginal contest, he only had a nine point lead, and given the kinds of swings weve been seeing since the very first results on thursday, it was obviously the case that it was he was potentially vulnerable despite his popularity. We will wait and see, but he has still done remarkably well for a conservative ended in the West Midlands in these kind of circumstances, but maybe it isnt quite enough. Circumstances, but maybe it isnt quite enough circumstances, but maybe it isnt quite enough. John curtice, thank ou ve quite enough. John curtice, thank you very much quite enough. John curtice, thank you very much indeed. Quite enough. John curtice, thank you very much indeed. Professor| quite enough. John curtice, thank. You very much indeed. Professor sir john curtice with the latest in were still waiting the West Midlands result. At school there right now. Lets cross to my colleague rajini vaidyanathan, who is at the count in birmingham. We are waiting for that result. What we have heard in the last few minutes here in birmingham is that there is good to be a bundle check, they are doing that right now. They are doing that in five of the seven areas that are counting to make of this West Midlands mayoral results. We have already had results from solihull and wolverhampton, but we are now getting these Bundle Checks, which means they are going through now and some of the tables and just checking the ballots. But it could mean, there was an issue, an official tells me, we could then as john was saying go into a recount but were definitely not that stage yet. Im told from the labour party, and Jess Phillips says it is not her party who has asked for these checks, it is the conservatives, which is interesting. Of course, this has been very close race throughout the campaign, the incumbent, the Conservative Andy Street hoping for a third term as mayor. He has been distancing himself from the national party, you havent seen much mention of the conservatives on his party literature, and he has been helping to bank on his personal appeal, brand andy as he has been holiday. But the labour party and the candidate Richard Parker are hoping to pull off a stunning result, it would be stunning for the labour party if they manage it, that would be to unseat mr street. And by all accounts, it is looking incredibly close. Joining me now is the labour mp for birmingham yardley, Jess Phillips. 0bviously, obviously, you represent the seat in this region, tell us what you are feeling as a party at the moment about whats going on. About whats going on. Well, as there is a about whats going on. Well, as there is a bundle about whats going on. Well, as there is a Bundle Cheque about whats going on. Well, as there is a Bundle Cheque going | about whats going on. Well, as i there is a Bundle Cheque going on. The results there is a Bundle Cheque going on. The results seem quite varied across the different areas. A bundle check the different areas. A bundle check. There are lots of different local check. There are lots of different local authorities within this area of birmingham. Very different to solihult of birmingham. Very different to solihull. But of birmingham. Very different to solihull. � ,. , of birmingham. Very different to solihull. , of birmingham. Very different to solihull. �. , , solihull. But some did actually see a swim solihull. But some did actually see a swing although solihull. But some did actually see a swing although andy solihull. But some did actually see a swing although andy street solihull. But some did actually see a swing although andy street has i solihull. But some did actually see| a swing although andy street has a massive majority in a particular area. A 5 swing away from him to the labour party. How much are you reading into that . I the labour party. How much are you reading into that . Reading into that . I dont think the labour Party Reading into that . I dont think the labour party is reading into that . I dont think the labour party is ever reading into that . I dont think the labour party is ever going reading into that . I dont think the labour party is ever going to reading into that . I dont think the | labour party is ever going to target a place labour party is ever going to target a place Like Labour Party is ever going to target a place like solihull and the election a place like solihull and the election although it was lib dem for a Spell Election although it was lib dem for a spell before 2015. But i think what a spell before 2015. But i think what were seeing, what we have been seeing what were seeing, what we have been seeing across all areas and through the local seeing across all areas and through the local elections as well as the mayor the local elections as well as the mayor of the local elections as well as the mayor of italy contests is that conservatives are getting across the line in conservatives are getting across the line in those seats but the swing towards line in those seats but the swing towards the labour party is one that gives towards the labour party is one that gives me towards the labour party is one that gives me reasons to be cheerful for the future gives me reasons to be cheerful for the future. As well as the mayoratty the future. As well as the Mayoralty Race is. Do you think you can pull Mayoralty Race is. Do you think you can pull it Mayoralty Race is. Do you think you can pull it off . You know, ive changed can pull it off . You know, ive changed my mind every five minutes within changed my mind every five minutes within this changed my mind every five minutes within this campaign, which has been grilling within this campaign, which has been grilling certainly for the last number grilling certainly for the last number of weeks yes, i very much hope number of weeks yes, i very much hope we number of weeks yes, i very much hope we can number of weeks yes, i very much hope we can pull it off but it is incredibly hope we can pull it off but it is incredibly close. Its not particularly close in any one of the areas. Particularly close in any one of the areas, there is quite a big difference for both sides in each of the boroughs that make up the region. The boroughs that make up the region, and birmingham who are doing the bundle region, and birmingham who are doing the bundle check, there would have to find the bundle check, there would have to find quite a lot of bundles in birmingham to change the result, there birmingham to change the result, there was birmingham to change the result, there was a clear majority here one wax there was a clear majority here one wax so there was a clear majority here one wax so its there was a clear majority here one way. So its very close, im hopeful im always way. So its very close, im hopeful im always hopeful, been in this room im always hopeful, been in this room for im always hopeful, been in this room for eight hours, i wouldnt have room for eight hours, i wouldnt have stayed here if i was meant to be at have stayed here if i was meant to be at a have stayed here if i was meant to be at a barbecue let have stayed here if i was meant to be at a barbecue be at a barbecue let me ask you about some be at a barbecue let me ask you about some challenges be at a barbecue let me ask you about some challenges in be at a barbecue let me ask you about some challenges in your. Be at a barbecue let me ask you i about some challenges in your party are facing. Lets start with the city council here. It has declared itself bankrupt, it is a labour run council. Council tax has gone up, there has been an impact on services. The conservatives and andy street certainly used that in this campaign as an example of how they say Labour Cannot manage local services well. Say Labour Cannot manage local services well. Andy street uses a lot. I services well. Andy street uses a lot i think services well. Andy street uses a lot. I think there services well. Andy street uses a lot. I think there have services well. Andy street uses a lot. I think there have been lot. Ithink there have been problems of Birmingham City council with how problems of Birmingham City council with how things have been managed but it with how things have been managed but it is with how things have been managed but it is a with how things have been managed but it is a local Authority Area that but it is a local Authority Area that the but it is a local Authority Area that the conservative government have taken £1 billion out of. I have to say have taken £1 billion out of. I have to say that have taken £1 billion out of. I have to say that didnt come the campaign. There were other issues that im campaign. There were other issues that im sure will come unto that definitely that im sure will come unto that definitely did put in constituency for example, run the Council Tax Rise obviously was promised by commissioners, sent by michael gove, that the commissioners, sent by michael gove, that the council cuts more generally bachelor that the council cuts more generally bachelor it that the council cuts more generally bachelor it is still a Labour Council bachelor it is still a Labour Council. 100 and im not here to defend council. 100 and im not here to defend that council. 100 and im not here to defend that but what i would say is that ive defend that but what i would say is that ive had probably about 20 emails that ive had probably about 20 e mails about that, there are other issues e mails about that, there are other issues ive e mails about that, there are other issues ive had plenty more on. What are the , issues ive had plenty more on. What are they. Then . Issues ive had plenty more on. What are they, then . Won issues ive had plenty more on. What are they, then . Won you issues ive had plenty more on. What are they, then . Won you could are they, then . Won you could imaaine are they, then . Won you could imagine by are they, then . Won you could imagine by comparison, i are they, then . Won you could | imagine by comparison, i would are they, then . Won you could imagine by comparison, i would say gaza and imagine by comparison, i would say gaza and the situation in the middle east has gaza and the situation in the middle east has undoubtedly had a role to play here east has undoubtedly had a role to play here. To east has undoubtedly had a role to la here. , x east has undoubtedly had a role to la here. , a , east has undoubtedly had a role to la here. , ,. ,. , play here. To pick up on that, you left the shadow play here. To pick up on that, you left the shadow from play here. To pick up on that, you left the shadow from benches play here. To pick up on that, you| left the shadow from benches over sir keir starmer� s refusal to call for an immediate ceasefire at the start. Of course the Party Position has now changed. It is now that we should have a ceasefire, yes. There is an independent campaign an independent candidate who campaigned on this issue. Do you think this issue and your Partys National stance at the start of the conflict could cost this race ever comes down to the knife edge and goes to the conservatives . Conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there what conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there what i conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there what i will conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there what i will say conservatives . There are a lot of whatifs there what i will say is l what ifs there what i will say is that there what ifs there what i will say is that there has been a big swing of votes that there has been a big swing of votes to that there has been a big swing of votes to an that there has been a big swing of votes to an independent in this area that ran votes to an independent in this area that ran entirely in gaza. 0f that ran entirely in gaza. Of course, that ran entirely in gaza. Of course, what the vote here is, as for the course, what the vote here is, as for the west course, what the vote here is, as for the West Midlands combined authority, so im quite sceptical about authority, so im quite sceptical about what role the mayor of the west about what role the mayor of the West Midlands might have on gaza. But nonetheless, this is a political issue but nonetheless, this is a political issue that but nonetheless, this is a political issue that people here care about. Im not issue that people here care about. Im not so issue that people here care about. Im not so interested in the motivations of the independent candidates use this platform. I am much candidates use this platform. I am much more candidates use this platform. I am much more interested that this is the strength of feeling other people here, the strength of feeling other people here, certainly in birmingham and across here, certainly in birmingham and across the here, certainly in birmingham and across the country on this issue, and i across the country on this issue, and i would across the country on this issue, and i would be lying if i said it hadnt and i would be lying if i said it hadnt been an issue that has helped the labour hadnt been an issue that has helped the labour party in this issue, so we have the labour party in this issue, so we have to the labour party in this issue, so we have to listen to what is being said to we have to listen to what is being said to us, we have to listen to what is being said to us, notjust celebrate we have to listen to what is being said to us, not just celebrate today if we said to us, not just celebrate today if we win, said to us, not just celebrate today if we win, or said to us, not just celebrate today if we win, or commiserate if we lose on the if we win, or commiserate if we lose on the basis if we win, or commiserate if we lose on the basis that it was all because of that on the basis that it was all because of that this on the basis that it was all because of that. This isntjust on the basis that it was all because of that. This isnt just about elections of that. This isnt just about elections when or lose, this is livesa elections when or lose, this is lives, this elections when or lose, this is lives, this is people expecting more from their lives, this is people expecting more from their representatives. You have to listen from their representatives. You have to listen when people send you a message to listen when people send you a message on that message, whoever listens message on that message, whoever listens today, has been sent from the west listens today, has been sent from the West Midlands. As listens today, has been sent from the West Midlands. The West Midlands. As we try and read the tea the West Midlands. As we try and read the tea leaves the West Midlands. As we try and read the tea leaves out the West Midlands. As we try and read the Tea Leaves Out Of the West Midlands. As we try and read the Tea Leaves Out Of the read the Tea Leaves Out Of the General Election, what do you think your party can take away from whatever happens . Whichever way it goes, the fact it is so close, you are saying it could come down to a few quick. I are saying it could come down to a few quick few quick. I think the labour party has few quick. I think the labour party has many few quick. I think the labour party has many reasons few quick. I think the labour party has many reasons to few quick. I think the labour party has many reasons to be| party has many reasons to be cheerful party has many reasons to be cheerful this week. Excuse me, theres cheerful this week. Excuse me, theres a cheerful this week. Excuse me, theres a fly i apologise. But the labour theres a fly i apologise. But the labour party has reasons to be cheerful labour party has reasons to be cheerful. The votes are building up in areas cheerful. The votes are building up in areas that we need to win at the general in areas that we need to win at the General Election. Obviously, we win most General Election. Obviously, we win most of General Election. Obviously, we win most of the General Election. Obviously, we win most of the seats in birmingham anyway, most of the seats in birmingham anyway, so we shouldnt ever take that for anyway, so we shouldnt ever take that for granted, so you should always that for granted, so you should always read the tea leaves. No politician always read the tea leaves. No politician should ever rest on their laurels politician should ever rest on their laurels of politician should ever rest on their laurels of a politician should ever rest on their laurels of a large majority. We are seeing laurels of a large majority. We are seeing an laurels of a large majority. We are seeing an upset in politics in the last few seeing an upset in politics in the last few years where there is no such last few years where there is no such thing last few years where there is no such thing as a safe seat, there is no such such thing as a safe seat, there is no such thing as a community you can always no such thing as a community you can always rely no such thing as a community you can always rely on. You need to win every always rely on. You need to win every vote, always rely on. You need to win every vote, so while the labour party. Every vote, so while the labour party. To every vote, so while the labour party, to allow them to have a bit of cheerfulness over the results this week, of cheerfulness over the results this week, then it has to be laser focused, this week, then it has to be laser focused, winning every vote in every bit of focused, winning every vote in every bit of trust focused, winning every vote in every bit of trust bit of trust. Jess phillips, thank ou ve bit of trust. Jess phillips, thank you very much bit of trust. Jess phillips, thank you very much for bit of trust. Jess phillips, thank you very much for skipping bit of trust. Jess phillips, thank you very much for skipping a i you very much for skipping a barbecue and staying with us we were hoping the result might have come in by now as those Bundle Checks continue behind, they are also happening in four other Authority Areas here. We have had those two results already, so the whole, which has gone massively for andy street. Macsorley hull. In wolverhampton, Richard Parker coming out ahead there. Solihull. It comes down to those five authorities that are counted but i think the real takeaway from this is just how close it could be, and i havent spoken to anyone, either labour or conservative orjust spoken to anyone, either labour or conservative or just someone spoken to anyone, either labour or conservative orjust someone who is watching this from the outside, they really cannot call this one yet. Hate really cannot call this one yet. We will be back with you as soon as we can find out more, thanks very much indeed. We are going to take you now back over to london. Labours sadiq khan has won a third term as mayor. 0ur poltical correspondent leila nathoo is at city hall for us. What are we going to get the official declaration . Hate what are we going to get the official declaration . What are we going to get the official declaration . We can see behind me official declaration . We can see behind me at official declaration . We can see behind me at this official declaration . We can see behind me at this stage official declaration . We can see behind me at this stage is official declaration . We can see behind me at this stage is set. | official declaration . We can see i behind me at this stage is set. You can hear some announcements going on, thats because there are still results being announced for the london assembly. But we do know that all 1a Constituencies have now declared the results, so we do know the result, and sadiq khan has won a third term as london mayor for labour, a convincing victory. He increased his vote, a swing to labour in fact across the whole of london of 3. 2 . And interestingly, swings to labour even in some of the borrowers that the conservative candidate susan hall held on to. Some of the paris fossils are pretty convincing win for sadiq khan. It was clearfrom quite convincing win for sadiq khan. It was clear from quite early on that what could have had an impact on this election, which is certainly the conservatives hoped would have an impact, the issue of ulez, the issue of charging polluting vehicles to go on the road, that didnt have the impact of the conservatives hoped it would. Yes, susan hall retained her support in some of the outside bar is affected by the expansion of that zone under sadiq khan, but clearly that did not play into the election in terms of how people voted, as much as she helped. So remember, it is worth pointing out that there was a change to the Voting System too, labour were talking a lot in advance about this change, it had moved to First Past The Post so the candidate with the most votes won rather than there being references and there preferences ordered up in a series of rounds. It was a straight fight, you vote for the candidate you wanted and sadiq khan came out more votes, by more than 200,000 i think at the final tally but we havent yet had the final official declaration. The candidates are filing in now to city hall, but we are expecting probably within the next half an hour or so but final declaration to be made, and to hear from the new mayor, the existing mayor, rather, sadiq khan, who has won this convincingly for labour. Hate won this convincingly for labour. We have been saying that last time there was this wave but last night there was this wave of uncertainty that maybe things were tighter, closer between tory and labour than previously predicted. Have you seen conservatives since it looks like this result has been confirmed for labour . What is their now . I confirmed for labour . What is their now . , confirmed for labour . What is their now . ~ ,. ,. ,. , now . I think the speculation last nieht now . I think the speculation last ni. Ht was now . I think the speculation last night was over now . I think the speculation last night was over they now . I think the speculation last night was over they not now . I think the speculation last night was over they not based i now . I think the speculation last| night was over they not based on anything, because counting didnt start in this race until this morning. So clearly, there was some camps trying to manage expectations last night, but certainly the mood this morning was that labour were feeling pretty confident about it and it was looking like it was going their way and certainly by the scale of the swings to sadiq khan from even the very first results declared, the areas of london were divided up into 1a Constituencies and even for the first couple it looks very much like sadiq khan had really increased his support both in the Traditional Labour Areas where he had support and in other areas were in previous Mayoral Election, yes, underthe were in previous Mayoral Election, yes, under the different system but compared to that he had also increased his support in places where he was behind the conservatives last time. So i think any sense throughout this campaign of the polls suggesting that sadiq khan was on course for victory, we know there have been some talk that labour were expecting it to be perhaps tighter in the polls had been showing but in the event it has been showing but in the event it has been proved that their confidence, that grew throughout the day as well, was well founded, because sadiq khan has come to be increased his majority here, a swing to labour. Interesting to do a little thought experiment, you talk about mayors in other parts of the country, whether they are winning because of their personalities, despite or because of their personal despite or because of the parties. Sadiq khan talked a lot about the prospect of being a labour mayor for london about the prospect of being a labour Mayorfor London under a Labour Government which of course he hasnt beenin government which of course he hasnt been in his previous two terms so i think a lot of things will have been playing into this election and the idea that the Voting System has changed, so perhaps people are thinking a bit more tactically, aware of the fact they would only get one shot at voting for a candidate rather than expressing preferences as they had done before, but many Different Things will have contributed to sadiq khans victory, but certainly this issue of ulez, which had been talked up a lot and certainly with susan halls focus in the campaign, does not appearfrom the campaign, does not appearfrom the results geographically to have medical a Significant Impact on this campaign. Medical a Significant Impact on this campaign this campaign. Leila, we will be back with you this campaign. Leila, we will be back with you when this campaign. Leila, we will be back with you when we this campaign. Leila, we will be back with you when we see i this campaign. Leila, we will be back with you when we see the | back with you when we see the declaration, thank you very much. Lets speak tojosh simons, director of the think tank labour together, which is closely associated with the labour party. Josh, thanks forjoining us because of the Labour Leadership must be very wary of complacency and people not turning up to vote whenever the General Election comes, if they are seen to be too successful in these elections . ~. , seen to be too successful in these elections . ~ ~. , � , elections . Well, i think thats rieht. Elections . Well, i think thats right labour elections . Well, i think thats right. Labour will elections . Well, i think thats right. Labour will never i elections . Well, i think thats right. Labour will never take l elections . Well, i think thats i right. Labour will never take any votes for granted, including from some of the communities that weve seen struggle with labour and move away. But i think The Big Picture is still a good one, things are moving in the right direction. Labour are winning the most votes. Crucially, exactly in the areas where they needed the most votes to win, that means that labour tell what labour is targeting its message at exactly the kind of voters it needs to win the kind of voters it needs to win the next General Election. I think labour will take encouragement and Energy Without taking any votes for granted. Energy without taking any votes for. Ranted. ,. , Energy Without taking any votes for ranted. ,. ,. , Energy Without taking any votes for ranted. ,. ,. ,. , granted. Does it have to change its oli on granted. Does it have to change its Policy On Israel granted. Does it have to change its Policy On Israel and granted. Does it have to change its Policy On Israel and gaza granted. Does it have to change its Policy On Israel and gaza to granted. Does it have to change its Policy On Israel and gaza to win i Policy On Israel and gaza to win back those disaffected members of the party from some muslim communities christmas obviously there is no such thing as a block view by anybody but there is clearly some discontent there. I was view by anybody but there is clearly some discontent there. Some discontent there. I was out in birmingham. Some discontent there. I was out in birmingham, which some discontent there. I was out in birmingham, which labours some discontent there. I was out in birmingham, which labours most i birmingham, which labours most senior mp ways, and its important to remember that british muslims are not a single voting black macro and exported to remember that the Labour Position has already changed. Voting bloc. Labour is very clear that it thinks an idf move into raffle would be a mistake. I think you have seen an evolution in labour because my position on gaza and i think over the coming weeks and months, you will see labour really communicating that position clearly to the voters that it does need to rebuild trust with whites up and if labour is Building Trust across the country as it seems to have done and the results so far, does it mean that they should and could be bolder in the policy offer . It depends what you mean by boulder. What you have seen from labour is that it what you have seen from labour is thatitis what you have seen from labour is that it is winning most of the areas where it needs to win the most to win the next General Election. The best example of that is heavily leave voting areas like thurrock. In this areas labour has been racking up this areas labour has been racking up significant swings, because labour has been relentlessly focused on the Centre Ground of british politics, being professional, stable, offering economic security, so i think it would be a mistake for labour to think, actually, what we need to do is worry about those voters in major urban areas where we tended to rack up huge majorities in 2019 but actually didnt need them and stay relentlessly focused on the millions of voters who turned away from labour in 2019 but now we are starting to wind back, those are especially leave voters. So dont mention the p word . By all means do what labour has done and be clear that we think a Trading Relationship is better than the one we have now is better than the one we have now is both achievable and necessary. The b word. But we also think that the b word. But we also think that the brexit vote was a constitutional vote that we cannot grow back on and we must not go back on and being clear that labour will not abandon its red lines and that and i think thats the right position, notjust politically in terms of winning votes but also morally because it respects our national referendum, the outcome of which was clear on which labour has been committed to ever since. Which labour has been committed to eversince. I which labour has been committed to ever since. I think that clarity and simplicity is exactly why you have seen labour racking up really significant vote swings leave voting areas across the country. Just significant vote swings leave voting areas across the country. Areas across the country. Just to go back to the areas across the country. Just to go back to the question areas across the country. Just to go back to the question of areas across the country. Just to go back to the question of turnout i areas across the country. Just to go back to the question of turnout and j back to the question of turnout and complacency, because we all know that the Labour Leadership are still worried about that, and that is the constant message privately and publicly. How do they avoid that . We seen 20 or so percent turnout in some parts of liverpool for example, in merseyside, that is a real danger, isnt it, that keir starmer and Rachel Reeves have to give the public excited because this could just be a protest vote, its a different thing when it comes to the General Election . I different thing when it comes to the General Election . Different thing when it comes to the General Election . I think we do have to remember General Election . I think we do have to remember that General Election . I think we do have to remember that the General Election . I think we do have to remember that the conservatives| to remember that the conservatives are in power in the uk, they are the government, and it will be at the next election a referendum on the performance in government over 1a years. There will be the main question on the minds of voters at the next General Election. Do i think the last 1a years has been effective, that the country has got stronger, that my Household Finances has got better, or do i think the conservatives have wrecked the economy . And you know, trust labour now, they are much more professional and sensible than they once were and i i think its time for change and i trust labour to deliver it. The next election will be about the Conservative Party and their performance in office and i think thats a very good thing. What performance in office and i think thats a very good thing. Thats a very good thing. What is the one line thats a very good thing. What is the one line message thats a very good thing. What is the one line message that i thats a very good thing. What is| the one line message that labour should be selling us on at the next General Election . That should be selling us on at the next General Election . General election . That it is time for a change General Election . That it is time for a change. Britain General Election . That it is time for a change. Britain needs i General Election . That it is time for a change. Britain needs a i General Election . That it is time i for a change. Britain needs a change in voters, we have seen all across the country in these local elections, is that voters are willing and ready to vote for change. That is the change that britain needs. Change. That is the change that britain needs. ,. ,. , ~ britain needs. Josh siemons, thank ou ve britain needs. Josh siemons, thank you very much britain needs. Josh siemons, thank you very much indeed britain needs. Josh siemons, thank you very much indeed for britain needs. Josh siemons, thank you very much indeed forjoining i britain needs. Josh siemons, thankl you very much indeed forjoining us. In the last hour andy burnham was re elected mayor of Greater Manchester, with over 63 of the vote. He spoke shortly after his victory as announced about how he sees the result. The countries voted for change at these the countries voted for change at these elections. Its clear britain needs these elections. Its Clear Britain Needs A these elections. Its Clear Britain Needs A new government and a fresh start, needs a new government and a fresh start, and needs a new government and a fresh start, and that is coming out. It feels start, and that is coming out. It feels to start, and that is coming out. It feels to me start, and that is coming out. It feels to me not complacent, but it feels feels to me not complacent, but it feels like feels to me not complacent, but it feels like that is coming. Devolution has a clear mandate. People devolution has a clear mandate. People are buying into what we are trying people are buying into what we are trying to people are buying into what we are trying to do. With that in a new government, britain could get them fresh start government, britain could get them fresh start it desperately needs. That begins to feel good. How concerned that begins to feel good. How concerned are that begins to feel good. How concerned are you that begins to feel good. How concerned are you by that begins to feel good. Hann concerned are you by some of the losses over their gas issue and the Council Seats across Greater Manchester . Its Council Seats across Greater Manchester . Council seats across Greater Manchester . ,. ,. Manchester . Its not so much the losses, manchester . Its not so much the losses. You manchester . Its not so much the losses. You just manchester . Its not so much the losses, you just have manchester . Its not so much the losses, you just have to manchester . Its not so much the losses, you just have to be i losses, you just have to be concerned about the situation, first and foremost. It is suffering on a scale and foremost. It is suffering on a scale im and foremost. It is suffering on a scale im not sure we have seen on our Television Screens from the context our Television Screens from the context of our Television Screens from the context of war. It is distressing on every context of war. It is distressing on every level. Context of war. It is distressing on every level, isnt it . As were the original every level, isnt it . As were the original Terrorist Attacks on october original Terrorist Attacks on october the 7th. It is a very, very worrying october the 7th. It is a very, very worrying situation. First and foremost, i would just acknowledge that, but foremost, i would just acknowledge that, but we need to listen to communities, listen to people in terms communities, listen to people in terms of communities, listen to people in terms of how they have voted, worked to bring terms of how they have voted, worked to bring people together, and to get movement, if you like, with regards to a negotiation in the middle east. I appreciate how peoples feelings are really i appreciate how peoples feelings are really strong on the issue. We need are really strong on the issue. We need to are really strong on the issue. We need to take time to reflect on what we have need to take time to reflect on what we have heard in these elections, and as we have heard in these elections, and as i we have heard in these elections, and as i say, we have heard in these elections, and as i say, do what we can to bring and as i say, do what we can to bring people together. And as i say, do what we can to bring people together. Andy burnham, who has ust bring people together. Andy burnham, who hasjust been bring people together. Andy burnham, who hasjust been reelected bring people together. Andy burnham, who hasjust been reelected in i who hasjust been re elected in manchester. In liverpool, labours Steve Rotheram was declared the winner of the mayoral contest there. Shortly after his victory was announced, he spoke about what he believes the result represents