How, why, can someone wielding a sword run amok in a North East London suburb, killing a 14 year old reportedly on his way to school . Well talk to this mum, whose16 year old son was killed by teenagers who bought swords and a machete on the internet. Shes campaigning for a ban on the online sale of them. Also tonight who will win the battle for the West Midlands mayoralty . Polls suggest its soooo close between the conservatives and labour. How will the outcome affect the fortunes of the Prime Minister and labour leader over the coming months . On newsnight tonight, we have polling guru professor sirjohn curtice, claire ainslie, who was keir starmer� s policy director, and Ben Riley Smith from the telegraph, who knows about the plotting going on in the tory party. Plus, rememberthis from two years ago . The brexit Opportuities Minister explaining why he had delayed bringing in post brexit checks here in the uk. This would have been an Act Of Self Harm if we had gone ahead with it. It would have increased cost for people. Well, that Act Of Self Harm was introduced here today. The government puts the total costs of those checks at around £330 million extra a year, but some trade groups reckon more like £2 3 billion. Whos right . Well talk live to the National Farmers union and to this florist, who heads up the british florists association. She says checks could cost her members £75,000 each a year. And this man was given an ultimatum either pay thousands of pounds or explicit photos of him would be shared on social media. Its called sextortion, and now, the National Crime agency is Warning Schools that pupils are falling victim. Good evening. There is much we dont know yet about what happened in the sword attack in hainault in North East London at around seven oclock this morning. Who was wielding the weapon and why . What we do know is over a period of around 20 minutes, a man ran amok with a sword or machete and randomly attacked people. 0ne14 year old boy was killed. A neighbour is reported to have said he was on his way to school. A suspect was eventually tasered by the police and is now in hospital, as are four other people, including two police officers, who, according to the london mayor, ran towards the suspect to try and stop him. We also dont know if this attack could have been prevented. Two years ago, 16 year old ronan kanda from wolverhampton was killed by two teenagers whod bought a set of swords and a machete on the internet. The pair were given Life Sentences for his murder. Since then, ronan� s mum pooja kanda and family have been campaigning for a ban on the online sale of swords and large knives. We can talk to pooja kanda now. Pooja, thank you very much for speaking to our audience this evening. I wonder what you thought, how you felt, when you saw the news of what was happening in North East London today. Its very heartbreaking. Its really sad to keep going through the same scenario, and it keeps bringing flashbacks of what happened to ronan, and that has happened again today, and itsjust heartbreaking today, and itsjust heartbreaking to see another family going through that, another child, innocent child losing his life on his way to school. And ronan was stabbed with what was described as a 22 inch ninja sword. It was a case of mistaken identity, and the teenagers who killed him had bought their weapons on the internet, which is where your Campaign Comes in . Thats right. They didnt see his face, they came from the back, and they stabbed him in his abdomen, 20 inches deep, and then when he turned, they stabbed him in his heart. He didnt stand a chance, and my campaign is, how can they. . This wasnt the only weapon they bought online. There were 25 plus weapons they bought, and there were many occasions, all of them were bought online, they were available to a 16 year old. How is that even possible . And my campaign is about, if you are selling these weapons and you need to ban them. You cannot have these in our society, in our time. I dont think its right. Sure. And wejust time. I dont think its right. Sure. And we just showed time. I dont think its right. Sure. And wejust showed our audience a photo of the weapons that were used. The government announced earlier this year a third attempt to try and ban all what are called zombie knives. I havejust been on the internet tonight and there are so many different sites where you can buy all sorts of long, Horrific Serrated Knives that you can have delivered to your home. Yes, you might have to upload some documents to prove that you are 18 or over, but you can still get all this stuff. I mean, i know you met the policing minister. Did you feel that he understood the seriousness of this . I dont think he did, because when i met him last year, and explain to him what has happened to ronan and how it happened, how these online weapons were available to the perpetrators so easily, and it was notjust perpetrators so easily, and it was not just one perpetrators so easily, and it was notjust one or two they bought, it was 25 plus. I explained it all to him, and he did not understand the severity of this kind of availability, and its available, even the ninja sword that killed my son, is available today. It is even the ninja sword that killed my son, is available today. Son, is available today. It is Still Available . Son, is available today. It is Still Available . It son, is available today. It is Still Available . It is son, is available today. It is Still Available . It is absolutely available . It is absolutely available. Available . It is absolutely available, and available . 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So this is what i am saying, you need to ban all of them, and thenif you need to ban all of them, and then if you cant ban all of them, then if you cant ban all of them, then you need to bring out the licence system. Then you need to bring out the licence s stem. , licence system. Right, so you would have to have licence system. Right, so you would have to have a licence system. Right, so you would have to have a licence licence system. Right, so you would have to have a licence for licence system. Right, so you would have to have a licence for a licence system. Right, so you would have to have a licence for a knife have to have a licence for a knife or a weapon that was, what, longer than a particular, i dont know, ten inches, 15 inches, Something Like that . ,. ,. , that . Yes, if there is a need for it, then you that . Yes, if there is a need for it, then you have that . Yes, if there is a need for it, then you have a that . Yes, if there is a need for it, then you have a licence. It, then you have a licence. 0therwise, it, then you have a licence. Otherwise, there is no need for it in our society, because the perpetrator who killed my son, they had 25 weapons, and what they were doing with it, they were buying it online and selling it to others. Right. Online and selling it to others. Richt. , online and selling it to others. Riht. ,. , online and selling it to others. Richt. ,. ,. � , right. For more price. Because the other peeple right. For more price. Because the other people were right. For more price. Because the other people were not right. For more price. Because the other people were not able right. For more price. Because the other people were not able to right. For more price. Because the other people were not able to buy| other people were not able to buy them. So this is crime happening. Can i ask you, pooja, what ronan was like . Absolutely beautiful. He was the soul of our family. Absolutely beautiful. He was the soul of ourfamily. I absolutely beautiful. He was the soul of our family. I absolutely love him, and he was happy, funny, kind, loving, caring, everything you say. He has made my life with it, and today, i am living for him, and i want and today, i am living for him, and iwant him and today, i am living for him, and i want him to be proud of his mum, because he is certainly my proud. We have sown our audience. Thank you to you, giving us permission to show our audience of absolutely beautiful footage of ronan watching his team, watching liverpool, and some photographs of you alongside him, and i am guessing that you miss him every single day. Every single second of every single day. He will never, ever be not missed. He is the soul of me. He is in me, i am missed. He is the soul of me. He is in me, iam in him, and missed. He is the soul of me. He is in me, i am in him, and that is why ilove him. In me, i am in him, and that is why i love him. My child is everything, because he is so innocent. That makes it. I wish that somebody else does not have to go through what i am doing, so maybe my child would be with me today. And of course, there is a family in north london who are mourning the loss of their 14 year old boy today. Yes, condolences to them. I am really heartbroken for them as well. I understand, i know that pain. I live that day every day. I live that pain everyday, and i can say to them is, condolences, at the moment. Hopefully, the fight i am doing, hopefully that can give the result, positive result, that they do ban the swords in this legislation, coming legislation as well. Thank you very much for talking to our audience tonight. We are really gratefulfor our audience tonight. We are really grateful for your our audience tonight. We are really gratefulfor your time. Thank you. Grateful for your time. Thank you. Thank gratefulfor your time. Thank you. Thank you. What happens in the contest for mayor of the West Midlands this thursday will give us a big clue as to the fortunes of rishi sunak and keir starmer over the coming days, weeks and months. According to the Birmingham Mail and posts politics and people editor, the incumbent, conservative andy street, should lose by a mile, because the conservative party is tanking. She also told us that labour is throwing everything at its campaign. If mr street loses, tory mps who are unhappy with mr sunak could move against their leader. If mr street wins a third consecutive term, that will be seen as very good news for the Prime Minister, even though mr streets battle has essentially been a one man campaign, with few reminders of his National Party brand. Heres nick. Once at the heart of Global Change as a home of the industrial revolution, the West Midlands now at the heart of the country and a core political battleground. Signs of wealth in birmingham, signs of economic challenges in wolverhampton. And back in the uks second city, springtime and less clement times at Birmingham City council, which is effectively bankrupt. All the fault of its labour administration, say the tories. All the fault of tory cuts, says labour. A divisive backdrop to a Mayoral Election that could tell us about the national mood. There are six candidates. Andy street for the conservatives is running a highly personal campaign in green, as he aims for a third consecutive term. He is facing a strong challenge from labours richard parker, who is running a more Traditional Party campaign. These two will be looking closely at the challengers. For andy street, its the reform uk candidate elaine ruth williams. For richard parker, its sunny virk for the lib dems, Siobhan Harper nunes for the greens, and the independent candidate, akhmed yakoob. I think this is going to be a such a fascinating last few days as build up to the polling day. Andy street should by rights lose this by a mile. He represents the conservative party thats tanking everywhere at the moment. But he is very cleverly playing his brand andy trick. What this essentially means is hes got no Government Ministers anywhere near birmingham or the West Midlands. This is all about andy street. Now, the chances are that he could come up on the rails and take this against the odds. The labour party, though, are throwing everything at it. So in contrast to andy street, we have had every Shadow Cabinet Minister that can possibly make it to birmingham and to the West Midlands here. This is a labour campaign, this is not a one man campaign. So its really fascinating to see if the one man campaign can beat the National Party. Mixed views in the centre of birmingham. I might vote for him. But is that an andy street vote, or conservative vote . Its definitely not a conservative vote, ive never voted conservative, ever. But he is an independent person, as far as i can understand. I will probably vote labour, to be honest. Would you always vote labour . Not always. But i probably will this time. Why do you think you will vote this time . I dont like the direction of the conservatives in the past eight years. Are you tempted to give an indication of who you might vote for . No not even my husband knows who im going to vote for weve been married for. 40 years, and i still dont know who she votes for thats quite something so do you go to the Polling Station together . Yes. And you enter the booth, and thats a private matter . Yes. Thats it, yes. Discretion in a crucial battleground. There are 26 parliamentary constituencies wholly within the West Midlands Combined Authority area. Many will be fought on new boundaries. Calculations suggest that the tories would have won 13 of them in 2019. Current Opinion Polls suggest a National Swing of between 15 and 16 from the tories to labour. That could net labour an extra seven seats giving them 20 out of 26 with a further two possibly in play. If you want a litmus test of the national mood, you cant do much better than come here to birmingham and the wider West Midlands region with a whole bunch of tory seats, a whole bunch of labour seats, and a whole bunch of seats that tend to move with the prevailing National Swing. On top of that, you have a conservative candidate for mayor who is running as fast as they can away from his party, campaigning in green, and a labour candidate happy to hug his party, and then for other candidates determined to make their mark. All in all, quite a heady mix. A political scientist believes that two contenders for Prime Minister will watch the result with great care. If its a clean sweep and the conservative party are doing badly everywhere, then of course that is going to be very bad news for rishi sunak. So if there is a glimmer of hope somewhere they will be clutching onto that and trying to say that that area or that particular race tells us something that the Opinion Polls dont. If its a uniform story, then its pretty much, here is what we already knew. There is one thing i think is going to be important to bear in mind is it will be really tempting to say, oh, labour has done better in this area of the country or in this area of the country. But we have to remember that labour is doing better everywhere, so if labour is doing better everywhere, and that is true in the Opinion Polls, and in fact true in the local elections, then that is due to sort of the tide rising all over the place and then the labour party starting to pick up support where it lost last time. A vista of a region with a powerful voice. The West Midlands will soon speak, and the rest of the country will soon listen. Lets talk to sirjohn curtice, bbc Election Night guru and professor of politics at stratchclyde university. Claire ainsley, keir starmer� s former director of policy now of the progressive policy institute. And the telegraphs political editor, Ben Riley Smith. What do you think is at stake for rishi sunak and keir starmer . For rishi sunak and keir starmer . Er . Rishi sunak and keir starmer . Er . Rishi sunak is trying to give Party A Glimmer of hope that maybe not all is lost for the general election that we expect to happen now in the autumn. For keir starmer it is in a sense looking for affirmation of the message of the Opinion Polls that the labour party is indeed so far ahead that it looks now like a home banker thats keir starmer will be the next Prime Minister. So one side looking for hope and the other for affirmation. The looking for hope and the other for affirmation affirmation. The battle for my realities in affirmation. The battle for my realities in the affirmation. The battle for my realities in the tees affirmation. The battle for my realities in the tees valley. Affirmation. The battle for my | realities in the tees valley and West Midlands are seen as totemic and if rishi sunak loses one or both, what does that mean for him . Well they are politically totemic but probably amongst the least reliable indicators of what may happen in the general election. Taking West Midlands, in 2021 there was a parallel election for the police and crime commissioner and the labour party were the winners andindeed the labour party were the winners and indeed there will be Apparel Election for the police and crime conditioner on thursday in the West Midlands. Commissioner. 0ne Conditioner on thursday in the West Midlands. Commissioner. One thing we know from West Midlands Opinion Polls is that basically andy street seems to be heading to do better than his party would come about 10 better and labour about 10 worse. So not everyone in local elections vote in the same way as a general election and in contests for the mayor these are better for the individual rather than the party. 0ne individual rather than the party. One reason why we are focusing on this is because indeed as wejust heard we anticipate because the conservative party essentially are defending a contest last fought over in 2021 and remember borisjohnson was Prime Minister and the tory party were six points ahead in the Opinion Polls and politically this was completely different. So we are expecting the conservative party to lose heavily and theyre just hoping that if they can win the West Midlands or the tees valley that they hang onto back in 2021 that they hang onto back in 2021 that they could find some cover for bad results. But in the West Midlands it could also be known that in the tees valley the candidate is more popular than his party. So we cannot assume that even if they went they would do well in parliamentary constituencies in these two areas than anywhere else in the country. If in these two areas than anywhere else in the country. Else in the country. If labour did not win either else in the country. If labour did not win either tees else in the country. If labour did not win either tees valley not win either tees valley or West Midlands what does it mean for keir starmer and his strategy . If the conservatives starmer and his strategy . If the conservatives hang starmer and his strategy . If the conservatives Hang On Starmer and his strategy . If the conservatives hang on to starmer and his strategy . If the conservatives hang on to both l starmer and his strategy . 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Places like the East Midlands which will be a new metro mayor and new combined Authority New metro mayor and new Combined Authority more indicative of what could authority more indicative of what could happen at the general election. If you look at some constituencies that would make up some constituencies that would make up some of constituencies that would make up some of these places like Milton Keynes some of these places like Milton Keynes are places like that i think for us keynes are places like that i think for us the keynes are places like that i think for us the case needs to be more on those for us the case needs to be more on those places for us the case needs to be more on those places and what they could mean those places and what they could mean for those places and what they could mean for a general election rather than the mean for a general election rather than the incumbent mayors. So look at laces than the incumbent mayors. 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One crucialthing about these letters that people are these letters that people are missing as far as the tories are concerned, reform uk are fighting this one in six of the local election war is so in practice i suspect the conservatives could discover that across local elections are not quite so bad as the National Opinion polls would suggest because it is in the National Opinion polls that reform uk were taking points from the tories and that seems unlikely to happen on the same scale in local elections. But unlikely to happen on the same scale in local elections. In local elections. But there is a auestion in local elections. But there is a question as in local elections. But there is a question as to in local elections. But there is a question as to why in local elections. But there is a question as to why these in local elections. But there is a i question as to why these particular Mayorality Question as to why these particular mayorality posts are being talked up is important because we are doing this dance is important because we are doing this dance because there are no more options this dance because there are no more options and this dance because there are no more options and this is why the tories are not options and this is why the tories are not going to win, not because of rishi are not going to win, not because of rishi sunak. Are not going to win, not because of rishi sunak, they thought that he might rishi sunak, they thought that he might turn their fortunes around after might turn their fortunes around after the might turn their fortunes around after the disaster of liz truss but clearly after the disaster of liz truss but clearly he after the disaster of liz truss but clearly he has not been able to do that clearly he has not been able to do that so clearly he has not been able to do that so we clearly he has not been able to do that. So we all doing this dance saying that. So we all doing this dance saying that these two mayorality posts saying that these two mayorality posts are saying that these two mayorality posts are a good thing because then it is such posts are a good thing because then it is such a posts are a good thing because then it is such a low bar to cross. They do not it is such a low bar to cross. They do not have it is such a low bar to cross. They do not have any other options as to what do not have any other options as to what to do not have any other options as to what to do do not have any other options as to what to do. So a general election might what to do. So a general election mightiust what to do. So a general election mightjust be the other option. We might ust be the other option. We are mightjust be the other option. We are out mightjust be the other option. Are out of mightjust be the other option. Are out of time, im sorry, i feel disappointed because i could do another 20 minutes you are going to be back Tojoin Laura On thursday night. 0n the bbc� s overnight Election Results programme on thursday night from 11 40pm over on bbc one. Thank you very much for your time. And i will see you on thursday. Two years ago, the brexit Opportunities MinisterJacob Rees Mogg explained why the government was delaying post brexit checks on goods being imported to the uk. It would have been an Act Of Self Harm if we had gone ahead with it. Those checks have been delayed five times by the government, and were finally introduced today, leading to costs for importers, which are an inevitable consequence of the uk leaving the eus Single Market and customs union. The costs will be faced by importers of products like meat and cut flowers, fish and dairy products, all of which will have to be inspected. The government says to protect us from disease, and they estimate a cost of £330 million a yearfor importers. Other trade groups reckon its much much higher than that. For the average high street wholesaler supplying that stuff to schools, restaurants and hospitals, will they pass those costs onto the consumer and push up inflation again . And is there anything that can be realistically done to reduce these costs as labour argues . Heres ben with some facts. Post brexit physical checks on food and plant imports after many delays are finally here, as of today. But how much will they cost us . For some individual importers of food and plants especially small ones the answer is a lot. This Finance Director of Flower Company tom Brown Wholesale told the bbc he expected the checks to cost his business around £200,000 extra per year. But what about the overall costs of the new regime . Costs that will affect not just importing businesses but most of which are likely to be ultimately passed on to us as consumers . The government puts the total costs at around £330 million extra a year. But analysis by some trade groups, including the cold chain federation, have estimated it at around ten times that between two and Three Billion pounds a year. So which is right . Well, we asked the government for the details of their own analysis but they didnt respond. But having looked at the trade groups� analysis the difference seems likely to be that the higher estimates take into account not only new official charges of around £29 per imported consignment but also a range of indirect Business Costs resulting from the new regime of checks, like extra staffing. It is going to be a significant cost and i suspect somewhere between the estimates but certainly the government estimate of 300 million looks on the low side and i suspect does not include all the extra time and costs that these checks will involve. The government did announce at the beginning of this month that it will not, initially at least, be checking every consignment, but rather between 1 and 30 of medium risk commodities like eggs and milk. This might help reduce bottlenecks and potential shortages on uk shelves but Inspection Fees have to be paid regardless so this doesnt remove the cost for importers. So the overall impact . Well, even new costs of as high as £3bn a year would not be expected to change the downward direction of overall uk Consumer Price inflation, or even Food Inflation which, as you can see, is descending rapidly from its peak of almost 20 above to 1t year on year in march. But any new costs will have some upward impact on prices, relative to whether they otherwise would have been. And its a reasonable fear that some small retailers might not be able to survive as a result of these new costs, reducing the range of choice available to uk shoppers. And in terms of what can be done to alleviate these costs . Well, labours leader keir starmer has argued a new Animal Welfare standards agreement with the eu could reduce these import frictions. Labours suggestion of a veterinary agreement probably reduces some of these checks. It probably doesnt eliminate them entirely. For that, you need to be part of the Single Market. Thats what weve left. And that is the bottom line. As was always clear, putting new regulatory barriers between our firms and our nearest and largest trading partners imposes an economic cost. What we await to find out, now the import barriers are finally here, is who, precisely, will bear that cost. The president of the National Farmers union is here, tom bradshaw, as is the chair of the british florist association, nikki meader, who is a florist herself, and who says these checks could cost some of her Members Around £75,000 each a year. Will your members pass those costs onto consumers . I will your members pass those costs onto consumers . Onto consumers . I think inevitably the will onto consumers . I think inevitably they will have onto consumers . I think inevitably they will have to. Onto consumers . I think inevitably they will have to. . They will have to. . This is they will have to. . This is the they will have to. . This is the first the third time coming out of brexit it has impacted on us, and we cant keep hanging on to these prices, so inevitably it will be the consumers. Consumers already cant will be the consumers. Consumers already cant afford will be the consumers. Consumers already cant afford stuff will be the consumers. Consumers already cant afford stuff like already cant afford stuff like flowers, which you regard as a luxury. If you put the price up again, thats that potentially mean some virus will go Out Of Business . Forests are very passionate about what forests are very passionate about what they forests are very passionate about what they do in are very dedicated to serving what they do in are very dedicated to serving the local communities. Florists to serving the local communities. Florists there to serving the local communities. Florists. There will always try to adapt florists. There will always try to adapt and florists. There will always try to adapt and change and offer something for the adapt and change and offer something for the consumers. Can for the consumers. Can you explain what you think these checks introduced today are actually a good idea . Having a secure food and farm system is is a good idea . Having a secure food and farm system i and farm system is is vital, and havin and farm system is is vital, and having secure and farm system is is vital, and having secure borders and farm system is is vital, and having secure borders as and farm system is is vital, and having secure borders as well. And farm system is is vital, and | having secure borders as well as defence having secure borders as well as defence against the illegal imports as well defence against the illegal imports as well as checking legal inputs coming as well as checking legal inputs coming into this country is essential to maintain bio security. Explain essential to maintain bio security. Explain What Effect African Swine Fever might have on farmers in this country in terms of their. 7 country in terms of their. . The governments modelling suggested cuts would be over half £1 billion suggested cuts would be over half £1 billion if suggested cuts would be over half £1 billion if there was an outbreak here billion if there was an outbreak here in billion if there was an outbreak here in the uk. It would make Pig Production here in the uk. It would make Pig Production probably very uneconomical and difficult to recover uneconomical and difficult to recover from. So it would have a critical recover from. So it would have a critical impact on our ability to produce critical impact on our ability to produce our own feet here, sol think produce our own feet here, Sol Think Bio Security is essential. Our own think bio security is essential. Our own food think bio security is essential. Our own food here. The our own food here. The covenant says they will only be doing between 1 and 30 of Consignment Checks and consignment means notjust one lorry, but all the stuff on a lorry. The government says. That means loads of lorries wont be checked. It is government says. That means loads of lorries wont be checked. Lorries wont be checked. It is a deterrent. Lorries wont be checked. It is a deterrent, but lorries wont be checked. It is a deterrent, but it lorries wont be checked. It is a deterrent, but it is lorries wont be checked. It is a deterrent, but it is not lorries wont be checked. It is a| deterrent, but it is not checking everything coming into the country. Some everything coming into the country. Some of everything coming into the country. Some of our everything coming into the country. Some of our members, particularly our horticultural producers are saying. Our horticultural producers are saying, look, bio security is really important saying, look, bio security is really important for us, but we already have important for us, but we already have bio security checks within our businesses have bio security checks within our businesses. Why do we have to have the Inspection Point at saddington . What we have been asking for is the appropriate checks at the appropriate place, so that for meat and dairy appropriate place, so that for meat and dairy products, it would be at the border, and dairy products, it would be at the border, but for our horticultural producers, it is that the buyer horticultural producers, it is that the buyer secure site within their business business. Can business. Can i ask you what it busness can i ask you what it would mean busines can i ask you what it would mean to your members if there are delays to some of these checks, for example, some of these checks, for example, some inspections which only go when at certain sites between 7am 7pm at certain sites between 7am 7pm at night, so if a lorry comes after that, they have to wait till the next day or travel somewhere else. Yes, the majority of Flower Lorries coming into the uk come in between 9pm and midnight, so that is completely outside the inspection. So it is a delay in Supply Chain Thatis so it is a delay in supply chain that is a worrying factor to members. We are up against online giants that can supply a product the next day, and we need to turn around to be really quick coming through the borders, and ijust dont think it is going to be now they are bringing in these extra checks. So if there are delays, that presumably devalues the quality of the flower . Absolutely, that bride looking for the perfect flower. Absolutely, that bride looking for the perfect flower. The perfect flower. Exactly, so ou can the perfect flower. Exactly, so you can be the perfect flower. Exactly, so you can be putting the perfect flower. Exactly, so you can be putting up the perfect flower. Exactly, so you can be putting up prices the perfect flower. Exactly, so you can be putting up prices up| you can be putting up prices up then, can you . You can be putting up prices up then. Can you . Then, can you . No, it is very difficult then, can you . No, it is very difficult. The then, can you . No, it is very difficult. The other then, can you . No, it is very difficult. The other difficulty| then, can you . No, it is very. Difficult. The other difficulty is, the lorries are shared lorries, so they could have 30 independent florists� flowers on that lorry, so we have no idea whether our lorry with our weather on it will be pulled over or not. When are we going to find out . I think that� s the thing. Wejust going to find out . I think that� s the thing. We just don� t know the answers. We need to know. This has come into force today, and we still don� t know the answer that we need to know. Do you mind me asking what you both voted in the brexit referendum . I voted remain, voted in the brexit referendum . Ivoted remain, but voted in the brexit referendum . I voted remain, but i am a big believer i voted remain, but i am a big believer that we have to move beyond the Brexit Believer that we have to move beyond the brexit debate. Yes. The brexit debate. Yes, and i think that is my feeling too. We have to move on, we have to get on with it. Too. We have to move on, we have to get on with it get on with it. What did you vote . To sta , get on with it. What did you vote . To stay. To get on with it. What did you vote . To stay, to remain. Get on with it. What did you vote . To stay, to remain. But get on with it. What did you vote . To stay, to remain. But we get on with it. What did you vote . To stay, to remain. But we need l get on with it. What did you vote . | to stay, to remain. But we need to move forward. It is just interesting, because at the among the farming community, there was some support for brexit amongst farmers, and today is a kind of very visible cost of brexit. Is that support still there as it was, particularly when you look at some of the Free Trade Deal is the uk has done with australia and new zealand . I think you have to take about think i think you have to take about think about i think you have to take about think about taking back control, which think about taking back control, which is think about taking back control, which is what the decision was sold on, which is what the decision was sold on. And which is what the decision was sold on, and Border Security as part of that take on, and Border Security as part of that take back control. The moment we decided that take back control. The moment we decided we were going to be a third country exporting relationship with the third country exporting relationship with the eu, these checks were always with the eu, these checks were always inevitable. They have been delayed always inevitable. They have been delayed time and time again. The eu have been delayed time and time again. The eu have been doing them for four years, and many have been doing them for four years, and many of have been doing them for four years, and many of our members have suffered and many of our members have suffered significantly, particularly some suffered significantly, particularly some of suffered significantly, particularly some of our artisan cheese exporters. The cost of exporting to the eu the eu. This re levels the the in this re levels the playing field, yes. You heard Jacob Rees Mogg when he was so brexit Opportunities Minister describing these checks is an Act Of Self Harm, and they are brought in today. But an Act Of Self Harm, and they are brought in today. Brought in today. But from that biosecurity brought in today. But from that biosecurity perspective, brought in today. But from that biosecurity perspective, we i brought in today. But from that biosecurity perspective, we cannot bio security perspective, we cannot take things bio security perspective, we cannot take things for bio security perspective, we cannot take things for granted. Bio security perspective, we cannot take things for granted. Seeing take things for granted. Seeing that pressure take things for granted. Seeing that pressure across take things for granted. Seeing that pressure across europe, take things for granted. Seeing that pressure across europe, we take things for granted. Seeing that pressure across europe, we have i take things for granted. Seeing that pressure across europe, we have toj pressure across europe, we have to make pressure across europe, we have to make sure pressure across europe, we have to make sure we pressure across europe, we have to make sure we value pressure across europe, we have to make sure we value a pressure across europe, we have to make sure we value a Resilient Pressure across europe, we have to make sure we value a resilient foodj make sure we value a resilient Food Production make sure we value a resilient Food Production industry make sure we value a resilient Food Production industr Production Industry here, and biosecurity Production Industry here, and biosecurity is Production Industry here, and biosecurity is a Production Industry here, and biosecurity is a critical Production Industry here, and biosecurity is a critical part l Production Industry here, and | biosecurity is a critical part of bio security is a critical part of that that. Thank you ibeb. Thank you both very much. All the best to you as well. Why are teenage boys and young men thought to be more vulnerable to sextortion . In the last 21i hours, the National Crime Agency Issued fresh guidance to teachers in the uk to help spot signs that their pupils are becoming victims of the crime, a form of blackmail where people are persuaded to send intimate images of themselves, usually to people online, which criminals then threaten to share. It happened to Nathan Mcerlean from county londonderry. Hi, nathan. Hello, how are you . Very well, thank ou. How hello, how are you . Very well, thank you how are hello, how are you . Very well, thank you how are you . Hello, how are you . Very well, thank you. How are you . Not hello, how are you . Very well, thank you. How are you . Not too bad. Hello, how are you . Very well, thankl you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank ou for you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking to you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking to us. You. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking to us. They you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking to us. They are you. How are you . Not too bad. Thank you for talking to us. They are with you for talking to us. They are with you for talking to us. They are with you and snapchat. Tell our audience what happened. You and snapchat. Tell our audience what happened what happened. I was on a lads holida , what happened. I was on a lads holiday. That what happened. I was on a lads holiday, that this what happened. I was on a lads holiday, that this person what happened. I was on a lads holiday, that this person added | what happened. I was on a lads holiday, that this person added me, and i accepted it, we started talking for a few days, and by the time i got home, we were still chatting, and she started sending the explicit pictures of herself and then wanted to see me, so then i sent her back and expose it picture of myself, to which it then led to her wanting a full body picture of me and get my face in it, and i was like, that is a bit suspicious. Then, the next thing you know, i wouldn� t send it, and i got all these screenshots sent to me, she said she was going to blackmail me, or she was blackmailing me, and said she was going to ruin my life if i didn� t send £3000, she was going to send it to all my followers. I basically just called send it to all my followers. I basicallyjust called her bluff. Hang on, there is a lot of information for us to absorb there. Yes. So you receive naked pictures from somebody claiming to be a woman, you have no idea who really it is. , and then you sent. Can i put it like this . You sent a dick pic . Can i put it like this . Yes, you can say that. Dick pic . Can i put it like this . Yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have a yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have a photo yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have a photo with yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have a photo with your yes, you can say that. Then when she asked to have a photo with your face l asked to have a photo with your face on it, you thought that was suspicious. You might yes, i thought, that is weird, i� m not going to do that. So when she says, if you do not give me. How much was it . So when she says, if you do not give me. How much was it . So when she says, if you do not give me. How much was it . If| so when she says, if you do not give i me. How much was it . If you me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont tive me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont give me me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont give me three me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont give me three grand, me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont give me three grand, i me. How much was it . £3000. If you dont give me three grand, i will don� t give me three grand, i will send it to all your friends and family. That is a screenshot of the message you have sent to your friends and family, which i will come to in a moment. What is your immediate gut reaction when someone sends a message to you saying, give me three grand i am sharing this with everyone you know . Immediately, i wasjust with everyone you know . Immediately, i was just like, with everyone you know . Immediately, iwasjust like, ooh. The shot kicked in, i was like, i can� t believe this is actually happening. Immediately, iwasjust like, iwill happening. Immediately, iwasjust like, i will start bluffing to try and make herfeel like there is no point in blackmailing me. So i started bluffing her, telling her lies, like, and then trying to persuade her not to do it. She still did it anyway, made a group chat on instagram and sent the pictures in, and. So who was in that group chat . Because my instagram was public, there were a pile of people in it that i didn� t actually know that just followed me, but she added my sister� s old account into it, and at the time, i was like, oh, god, sister� s old account into it, and at the time, iwas like, oh, god, that is my sister� s account. I immediatelyjust is my sister� s account. I immediately just started is my sister� s account. I immediatelyjust started reporting immediately just started reporting the immediatelyjust started reporting the images. It was at night, so, thank god, no one was awake. But you re iorted it thank god, no one was awake. But you reported it to thank god, no one was awake. But you reported it to instagram . Reported it to instagram . Yes, i started reporting the images and i reported the account that made the group chat, reported the accountant blocked it, and then made my instagram private, in case they were able to go in and still see my followers. And that message we can see on screen, which you