the latest we're hearing is that police have begun making arrests. we're told that more than 80 arrests have been made for breach of the peace while a further ten people have been arrested for possessing offensive weapons and drugs. these pictures are of more counter—protestors are being held inside a pub by police, as the main protests goes past. here's an update from the metropolitan police. from about 9am this morning we have seen several hundred counter protesters that came towards whitehall and, from what we can see, they came intent on confrontation, intent on violence and intent causing trouble. we have made a number of arrests, including, within the counterprotest, including for possession of a knife, possession of a button, possession of class a drugs and assault on emergency workers. �* , ., ., ,, workers. let's go live to the us embassy- _ let's go live to the us embassy. our news correspondent frances read is at the israeli embassy, where the protest is finishing. beginning to disperse at though disperse very noisily, as you can hear at the moment. we have had some players in the colours of the palestinian flags as well so the air is quite so furry at the moment but people are starting to disperse and thatis people are starting to disperse and that is really key, isn't it? the police said that 5pm was the absolute cut—off, that people had to disperse and that was one of the conditions of the demonstration, being able to go ahead today. so we're kinda passed that deadline now and people are making their way away from this area. we actually saw quite a family atmosphere earlier. a lot of family salad and when they reached here at the us embassy, they then made their way through to battersea power station, down the river, is a people have been dispersing since they got here but you sell those striking pictures earlier, those kind of two miles worth of demonstrators so it is taking quite a long time for that tail end to start coming through here. we saw another wave, probably about five or ten minutes ago, where it got really busy and reach that kind of 5pm mark but now i think there is more people coming the other way who reached the end, then there are now going towards the end of the march now. starting to come to an end, albeit quite noisily. the hue to an end, albeit quite noisily. the huge police _ to an end, albeit quite noisily. the huge police presence, of course, today, and officers brought in from around the country to support the met police. how many are there where you are at the end of the march? yeah, they're keeping quite a low profile, actually. ithink yeah, they're keeping quite a low profile, actually. i think because it has been quite a peaceful atmosphere, really, on the whole. the police have kept quite far back but we know they are waiting in the wings. we know that, probably, just a bit behind here, there are a lot of police indeed at the end of this march but they are keeping a low profile here because there is no trouble that we have seen so far at the moment. and so we know that the police are here and being supported very specifically. we saw the gold command who are in charge of this entire operation and they came here before this demonstration even got anywhere near here in order to speak to police and give them their support. to police and give them their su ort. . ~' ,, to police and give them their su--ort. . ~' , to police and give them their su--ort. . ~ , . ., support. thank you very much for “oininu support. thank you very much for joining us- _ support. thank you very much for joining us. from _ support. thank you very much for joining us. from outside - support. thank you very much for joining us. from outside the - support. thank you very much for joining us. from outside the us l joining us. from outside the us embassy there with the very latest on is happening on the streets. people do begin to disperse. the hospital al—shifa has been forced to suspend operations. there are reports of fighting close to the hospital overnight. doctors inside al—shifa say at least one baby has died and more than 30 are at risk, as electricity has been cut admit the israeli offensive. now, we have had from the idf, the defence force in israel, claiming al—shifa is hamas's main command post. this is something hamas demands but also medics inside the hospital, too. 0ur correspondence begins our correspondence begins our correspondence from the middle east. and so transformed it the israeli military says the situation here is clear — that hamas has created a base underneath gaza's biggest hospital and so transformed it into a legitimate military target. but today, a senior figure from the israeli military conceded there are still thousands of civilians in the courtyard of the al—shifa hospital. and so making it, like other hospitals in this part of gaza, right on the front line. israel's latest attack on gaza overnight. an unrelenting barrage, like most nights, over the past five weeks. israeli forces have now surrounded gaza city's major hospitals. some palestinians waving white flags, desperate to reach safety. israel claims hamas have built a control centre under gaza's biggest hospital, making it a legitimate military target. inside the wards of the al—shifa hospital, chaos. patients fill the beds and the floors. many cannot be saved. 0ne surgeon told the bbc this morning it was becoming impossible to operate. shooting and bombardment everywhere. you hear it at every second here around the shifa hospital. no one can get out from the shifa hospital. no one can come to the shifa hospital. the situation is very, very dangerous. there is no water, even in the main building. no electricity, no food even, and no fuel. the israeli defense forces released this footage of what it said were its latest assaults on hamas positions. israel maintains it's doing all it can to avoid civilian casualties. translation: hundreds of thousands of gaza's residents have _ already moved south, and hamas is doing everything in its power to prevent them from doing so. hamas uses civilians as human shields. it is ready to endanger the lives of children of gaza to protect itself. it has no limits. israel says, over the past few days, more than 150,000 palestinians have followed its order to leave northern gaza. but many families cannotjoin the evacuation and remain trapped on the front line. nick beake, bbc news, jerusalem. 0ur correspondent in gaza is rushdi aboualouf. he says more people are arriving at refugee camps from northern gaza. in khan younis today, more than 2000, 3000 people have already fled from the north and they arrived here in khan younis. people are still going, moving, evacuating the gaza city in the north and coming to khan younis. very few of them, two or three people, they were coming from al—shifa hospital. they said the situation remained very tense around the hospital, with the tanks getting closer and closer to the gate of the hospital and the access in and out of the hospital is almost impossible. now, very few people, like, five or six people, they managed to escape under fire from the hospital this morning. but they told me about 10,000 people remain in the courtyard of the hospital. no electricity there. most of the operations are suspended, including the intensive care unit in the hospital. communication with those who are in the hospital are extremely difficult. i managed to call a journalist who may be the last one who was there and he said he is unable to do any sending any picture or talking to anybody in the hospital but he described what is going on around the hospital as a real war. we have to understand that this is notjust the hospital. this is the biggest medical centre, like the biggest kidney dialysis department is in this hospital. the biggest surgery is in this hospital. this is notjust a symbol, this is very complicated. the story with those thousands of people are still trapped civilians inside the hospital. last thing i want to say about al—shifa hospital is that today, about 100 dead bodies were buried in the car park of the hospital because they said they were unable to move them to the cemetery and they have no space in the morgue. they have to bury about 100 people. they say they were killed from an air strike on a school yesterday, nearby, shot a refugee camp close to the hospital so they were buried in a mass grave in the car park of the hospital. live now to our diplomatic correspondent paul adams in jerusalem. what is israel saying about these accusations of attacking hospitals inside gaza? the accusations of attacking hospitals inside gaza?— inside gaza? the israelis acknowledge _ inside gaza? the israelis acknowledge that - inside gaza? the israelis acknowledge that there l inside gaza? the israelis| acknowledge that there is inside gaza? the israelis _ acknowledge that there is definitely fighting, intense fighting between theirforces fighting, intense fighting between their forces and hamas gunmen fighting, intense fighting between theirforces and hamas gunmen in gaza city. what they dispute is that hospitals are being targeted. there was a statement released a couple of hours ago saying there is no shooting at the hospital and no siege. they say that, in the case of the al—shifa, they are keeping one side of the perimeter of that hospital complex open so that people can leave and walk down the road and join the main road that takes people to the south. anyone who says otherwise, according to this statement, which was delivered, interestingly, in arabic, anyone who contradicts it as a liar. so the israelis are emphatic. they are not targeting the hospital. but i think what, you know, it's going on there is that there is certainly, heavy fighting between israeli forces and hamas. it is definitely in the environs of many of these hospitals because these are the very places that the israelis say hamas is using as a cover for its activities. that they have facilities underneath al—shifa hospital, for example, claim that they made several times and we've yet to see hard evidence of that. maybe we will see it in the coming days if al—shifa finally falls into israeli hands but clearly, the hospitals are a focus of israeli military activity. they want, as much as possible, to encourage, maybe scare people into leaving the area and moving south, so that they can concentrate on dealing with hamas. mil so that they can concentrate on dealing with hamas.— so that they can concentrate on dealing with hamas. all day you will have seen them _ dealing with hamas. all day you will have seen them too, _ dealing with hamas. all day you will have seen them too, have _ dealing with hamas. all day you will have seen them too, have been - have seen them too, have been reading and speaking to international aid agencies who are desperately pleading for some kind of ceasefire in gaza. we are not close to that ceasefire, it seems, but where are we at in times of these military pauses? welcome auain, the these military pauses? welcome again, the israelis _ these military pauses? welcome again, the israelis say _ these military pauses? welcome again, the israelis say that - these military pauses? welcome again, the israelis say that theyl again, the israelis say that they are continuing to implement these policies on a daily basis for several hours a day. there was another one today. again, for the purposes of people moving to the cells, in terms of the north, there is no other purpose, as far as the israelis are concerned. it is all about getting people to move away from those contested areas. so that is all that is really going on in terms of any pauses. 0f is all that is really going on in terms of any pauses. of course, as mcculloch was indicating, influx is just adding to the misery that because there is not adequate aid arriving in the south, people are still not sure exactly where is safe and virus end, and so, the situation there becomes more acute, even as there becomes more acute, even as the fighting in gaza city becomes perhaps what might be another crucial phase. the perhaps what might be another crucial phase.— perhaps what might be another crucial phase. perhaps what might be another crucial hase. ., ,, ., , crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel today. — crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel today. of— crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel today, of course. _ crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel today, of course. as - crucial phase. the end of shabbat in israel today, of course. as you - israel today, of course. as you stand there injerusalem and talk to people, how do you assess the mood of israelis at the moment? 5tiiiii. people, how do you assess the mood of israelis at the moment?— of israelis at the moment? still, i would say. _ of israelis at the moment? still, i would say. a _ of israelis at the moment? still, i would say, a mood _ of israelis at the moment? still, i would say, a mood of— of israelis at the moment? still, i would say, a mood of resolve - of israelis at the moment? still, i would say, a mood of resolve and determination to do what most people in this country believe needs to be done. no one, no israeli wants to be backin done. no one, no israeli wants to be back in a situation they were in on october seven. they never want to 0ctober seven. they never want to see that happen again. i have had israelis tell me, we never want to have anything more to do with it gaza or any of the people living in gaza. if we could just tow it out into the middle of the mediterranean and leave it there that would suit us just fine. so and leave it there that would suit usjust fine. so i think most israelis have got quite a high tolerance, frankly, for what the israeli military is doing. they regard it necessary. they regard it as targeted and proportional. that might sound very odd to outside observers who see these daily scenes of misery, of hundreds of thousands of misery, of hundreds of thousands of people on the move becoming refugees, once again. of hospitals gradually ceasing to the israelis regard all of this as necessary. thanks forjoining us from jerusalem. arab and muslim leaders are gathered in saudi arabia to discuss the israel—gaza war. scheduled summits of the arab league and the organisation of islamic cooperation have been merged in response to the situation in gaza. 0ur security correspondent frank gardner is there with more. the one thing they can all agree on is they want it to stop immediately. i don't think there is anybody here at this vast conference, in this lavish conference centre here in riyadh, that is not calling for a ceasefire. where there are differences below the surface is what action if any should be taken. so you've got the iranian president and a big iranian delegation here, i saw him just not a short time ago, that's president ebrahim raisi of iran, and it's unusual in itself for the president of iran to be here in saudi arabia. these are the two big regional heavyweights with totally different agendas in this region so i think they are going to have to go for the lowest common denominator in terms of what they can all agree on which is an end to the fighting, a condemnation of israel's actions, and more humanitarian aid, and ultimately an end to israeli occupation of palestinian territories. where they are going to disagree is whether any concrete action should be taken, because algeria two days ago, during a meeting of foreign ministers, pushed for essentially an end to the abraham accords. they wanted countries like the uae, the united arab emirates, and bahrain to sever their relations with israel. there has been pushback on that, those countries don't want to do that, they want to keep channels open, even though they don't approve of what israel has been doing. iran has made it clear that it says this is not a time for words in gaza, it is a time for action and that is making people a bit nervous here, what do they mean by that? we have already seen the houthis, who are an iranian ally in yemen, firing missiles towards israel, aiming at southern israel. you've had iranian—backed proxy militias in lebanon, syria, iraq, all firing missiles, and that is concerning the more conservative arab rulers here. so beneath the surface they're not united, but they will come up with a united stand condemning israel. syria's president, bashar al—assad, is here. i mean, this man was an absolute pariah in the arab world, he was essentially kicked out of the arab league from the 2011 uprising onwards, soon after that. he's only been rehabilitated a few months ago but he is here. you've got turkish president erdogan, who for a while was not on good terms with the saudi hosts here at all at the time of the jamal khashoggi murder five years ago and you've got leaders from all over the muslim world, you've got a number of african leaders here and of course you've got president mahmoud abbas of the palestinian authority is here and he's been very outspoken. one of the things arab ministers have been saying to me privately, and i think this should make the west worried, they are saying that they view western attitudes to this as being one of double standards, of hypocrisy. why? because they said the west was very quick to condemn russia for its slaughter of civilians in ukraine, the terrible deaths there from missile attacks, and yet the numbers killed there are dwarfed by the numbers killed in gaza and they are saying western countries, particularly the united states, and the uk, have been muted at best when it comes to that. let's go back to the events in london today because as we know there's been a huge pro—palestinian march taking place involving 300,000 people. but as well as that more than 100 people have been arrested during various counter—protests which were taking place at the same time. videos show them shoving police officers. this skirmish is in westminster. earlier they clashed with officers near the cenotaph, ahead of a service to mark armistice day. the met police sources have told the bbc many of the counter—protesters arrested are connected to football the met police sources have told the bbc many of the counter—protesters arrested are connected to football hooliganism, and some of them have previous convictions for football violence. as we continue to see these pictures from central london, of the end of this peaceful protest that has happened today, we can speak to our guest. let's speak to ron winch, an associate professor in policing at birmingham city university. iam sure i am sure you have been watching with eagle eyes all day. how do you think it has gone?— with eagle eyes all day. how do you think it has gone? predominantly, a eaceful think it has gone? predominantly, a peaceful protest _ think it has gone? predominantly, a peaceful protest event _ think it has gone? predominantly, a peaceful protest event took - think it has gone? predominantly, a peaceful protest event took place i peaceful protest event took place with some counterprotest policing, that has been proportionate, robust and, i think, that has been proportionate, robust and, ithink, you know, we have that has been proportionate, robust and, i think, you know, we have a situation sometimes in policing and it is an old adage, that sometimes the police win by appearing to lose and i think this is one of those occasions where the police have been criticised, we've had politicians also. but today, so far, at least, i think, we can start to believe, and it starts to emerge that we have seen a peaceful event and a successful event take place, certainly as far as the metropolitan police are concerned. today has passed off successfully from a policing operational perspective. people have been allowed to indulge in peaceful protest. the police's role is to facilitate that. and of course we have seen some other elements that have been robustly dealt with so i think it is starting to look like a success. i dealt with so i think it is starting to look like a success.— to look like a success. i had a former chief _ to look like a success. i had a former chief inspector - to look like a success. i had a i former chief inspector describing policing demonstrations as being like the brain surgery of policing, which was quite a comment. can you explain some of the complexities of what happened today and what kind of planning must be put in place? yes. planning must be put in place? yes, of course. planning must be put in place? yes, of course- are _ planning must be put in place? yes, of course. are absolutely _ planning must be put in place? yes of course. are absolutely huge. we've got approaching 2000 police officers. 300,000 people protesting. all that the other things that are going on across the london area as well. the police has to engage in. so we've got normal policing plus we've got an exceptional policing operation going ahead. logistically, that takes an awful lot of planning foot at the police would have been working with the protest elements from the pro—palestine elements and the counterprotest elements. they will be working closely with them, agreeing a rude, but of course, all those officers have to be deployed. they have to be equipped, they have to be fed, they have to have drinking water, they have to be commanded, there has to be communication. so this is a huge operation and it is something that, let's be honest, the mets does very well because the matter is a huge force, lot of experience within public order and public safety, and does these big events simultaneously across london and sometimes, you know, we don't really give them that kind of credit for the sheer organisation capacity and capability that the met has and many other forces have as well across the country. forces have as well across the count . ., , forces have as well across the count . . , ., , , country. there was extra eyes, i think, on — country. there was extra eyes, i think, on the — country. there was extra eyes, i think, on the demonstration - country. there was extra eyes, i l think, on the demonstration today because of the comments from the home secretary suella braverman in the article she wrote in the times as well. i wonder if you believe her comments threatened the operational independence of the police before today? it independence of the police before toda ? , ., ., , independence of the police before toda ? , . ., , , ., today? it is a really good question and the debate _ today? it is a really good question and the debate has _ today? it is a really good question and the debate has been - today? it is a really good question and the debate has been had, - today? it is a really good question i and the debate has been had, hasn't it? that we have, you know, as part of our policing tradition, within the democratic system that we have, that the police are operationally independent. and when politicians make unprecedented comments and these have been unprecedented comments from the home secretary, i can't ever remember a home secretary being as critical publicly of their police as this home secretary has. and, in terms of that, yes, of course, it adds an additional dimension that isn't always helpful from the police's perspective. in dealing with a sustained and large operation. the police's role at the police's duties are hard enough as it is without politicians leaning into that debate and often times, i think i we've seen politicians become commentators rather than actually focusing on their role as politicians, especially senior cabinet ministers. i'd like to believe her comments potentially could have even stoked division? —— do you believe? it is not for me to say at this stage. it is not for the police to hold politicians to account. it is ok for politicians to hold the police to account but i think, in the sort of debrief of this operation, the debrief of the situation in these protests will go on, that i think there needs to be, you know, there will be some agreement, i am sure, at the highest levels, between the commissioner, between the commander of the metropolitan police and the home office. in terms of actually, how do we work together, how do we engage much more constructively for the benefit of everybody concerned? i think it is really important that, in these times of crisis, the police and the home office come together to work for the benefit of the communities and not to be seen to be, you know, polarised and divided. ron, thank you for your perspective. good to have you with us. had a good evening. thank you. you. let's bring u . evening. thank you. you. let's bring u- to date evening. thank you. you. let's bring up to date with _ evening. thank you. mm. let's bring up to date with some other headlines at the moment. an important bridge over the river nile has been destroyed in the ongoing conflict between the sudanese army and rival paramiilitaries(viz)a strategic bridge over the nile river in sudan's capital has been destroyed in the latest round of fighting, the army and rival paramilitaries said in separate statements saturday. witnesses reported "clear signs of destruction on the shambat bridge" which crosses the white nile and connecting khartoum's sister cities of khartoum north and 0mdurman. authorities in iceland have declared a state of emergency, after a series of earthquakes prompted fears of a volcanic eruption. the increased alert level came after several tremors on friday. emergency shelters are being opened in a village close to the crater, which is home to around 4,000 people. an icelandic patrol vessel is being sent to the region, as the met office continues to monitor the movement of magma under the volcano. stay with us here on bbc news. hello. after that misty and frosty start, it's actually turning out to be a very nice day across most of the uk — crisp with sunshine. it's not going to last, though. tomorrow we are expecting thicker cloud and outbreaks of rain, at least across some parts of the country. you can see the weather front approaching our neck of the woods here. the weather map showing that weather front later on today nudging into south—western parts of the uk, but ahead of it, as i say, a lot of fine weather. this is what it looks like for the rest of today. clear conditions across the bulk of the country, temperatures of around ten degrees, but come the evening we are expecting that rain to reach cornwall, devon. it will nudge into wales as well late in the evening, then overnight possibly reaching northern ireland and also the midlands, as well as southern england. to the north of that, clearskies, light winds, a touch of frost widely across scotland and northern england. with that, also some mist and fog through the lowlands, maybe the vale of york. 0ut towards the west and the south—west, a different picture. we're stuck underneath that weather front, so it's going to be a grey and rainy story. let's have a look at the forecast at 11.00am on remembrance sunday. sunshine for inverness and for aberdeen, newcastle too, but then here's that weather front and it's raining from belfast through liverpool, manchester, birmingham, possibly in london. now notice that the rain isn't heavy at all. in fact, some drier slots there in the south of the country before another sort of clump of showers arrives later on in the afternoon. i think the rain will come and go in the south, perhaps being more persistent a little bit further north. but in the north of scotland, sunshine all through the day on sunday. monday onwards, it's a big low pressure parked in the north atlantic. the weather fronts zipping our way. a really wet picture and also very, very windy. gale force winds are possible, particularly around these western coasts, but blustery inland too. again, it won't be raining all the time. i think later in the day on monday that rain will transfer northwards. relatively mild at 13 to 15 degrees celsius. looking at the outlook for the week ahead, a lot of these rain icons. perhaps a glimmer of hope of something brighter towards the end of the week, but that's still a long way off. wherever you are, have a good day. live from london. this is bbc news. an estimated 300,000 people have been marching through central london in support of palestinians. it's believed to be the biggest such demonstration in britain since war broke out. almost 2000 officers have been deployed and the police say they've arrested more than 100 people that they describe as counter—protesters. doctors at gaza's biggest hospital say two babies have died — and other patients are at imminent risk of dying — amid the israeli offensive. a palestinian surgeon at al—shifa hospital says most of the civilians there — including patients and some medical staff — have now left the hospital. the french president has said israel must stop killing babies, women, and the elderly in gaza. speaking to the bbc, emmanuel macron said that while he condemned hamas and recognised israel's right to defend itself there was "no legitimacy" or "justification" for israel's killing of civilians. hello i'm lucy hockings. we will have more from gaza and from israel shortly. we will have more from gaza and from israel shortly. sport and for a full round up, from the bbc sport centre. hello, we're starting with football and the premier league, where there was late, late drama as tottenham missed the chance to go back to the top of the table. brennanjohnson had given spurs an early lead afterjust three minutes — his first goal for the club — and that looked to be enough for victory. but wolves scored twice in seven minutes of stoppage time to snatch a 2—1win. maybe the most proud i have been of a group since i have coached. i thought we were the better side, apart from the first five minutes we were slow. but even in 1—0 down with 85 minutes on the clock, i was proud of the group. i thought the understanding of what we were trying to do was excellent, the mentality to do was excellent, the mentality to get an equaliser and then keep going and get a winner was incredible. and fully deserved, really good. well, that defeat allowed tottenham's local rivals arsenal to move above them in the table, only behind leader manchester city on goal difference. arsenal took the lead through leandro trossard, burnley then drew level shortly after half time. but william saliba quickly restored arsenal's lead before 0leksandr zinchenko sealed the 3—1 win. manchester united are into the top six after an unconvincing win against luton town. victor lindelof with the only goal — his first goal for nearly 3 years. game of the day though was at selhurst park, as everton came out on top in a five—goal thriller — beating crystal palace 3—2 — to extend their unbeaten run to three matches and move up to 14th. elsewhere in europe, paris saint—germain can go top of french ligue un if they beat reims — that game is around halfway through the second half — with psg leading 2—0. in germany, harry kane's remarkable form continues — he scored twice to make it 17 league goals from just 11 matches — as bayern munich beat heidenheim 4—2 — a win which takes them top of the league. elsewhere stuttgart beat borussia dortmund 2—1while matches at augsburg and darmstadt ended all square. in spain, girona's remarkable season goes on. they're five points clear at the top of la liga after beating rayo vallecano. second placed real madrid can cut that gap to two points if they can beat valencia later. and in italy, ac milan missed the chance to close the gap on leaders inter in serie a, drawing 2—2 with lecce. juventus can go top if they beat cagliari. it's currently goalless. away from all the football, england's cricketers have ended their dismal world cup with a little bit of celebration, winning their final match of the tournament. they beat pakistan by 93 runs in kolkata — a huge relief for england because it means they finish in the top eight and qualify for the 2025 champions trophy. notable performances today were from ben stokes, who top—scored with 84 in england's total of 337—9, and man of the match david willey, who, in his final international game, took three wickets as pakistan were bowled out for 244 runs. meanwhile australia ended the round robin stage with another convincing victory, this time against bangladesh. mitch marsh scored an unbeaten 177 in their total of 307 for the loss ofjust 2 wickets. seven successive wins for australia mean they finish third and will play south africa in the semi finals. 0nto tennis and there was disappointment in the end for great britain's jack draper who lost in his first atp tour final. the 21—year—old was beaten by the experienced second seed adrian mannarino in a topsy—turvy match at the sofia 0pen. draper is the youngest british man to reach an atp tour final since andy murray in 2009. meanwhile katie boulter is trying to get great britain back on level terms in their billiejean king cup play off after sweden took a shock lead in the best of five—match series. world number 328 kajsa rinaldo persson silenced the london crowd by beating debutantjodie burrage — who's ranked 235 places higher — in straight sets. and that's all the sport for now. doctors say a second baby at gaza's biggest hospital has died — and others are at imminent risk of dying — amid the israeli offensive. a palestinian surgeon at al—shifa hospital says most of the civilians there, including patients and some of the medical staff, have now left. dr ahmed el mokhallalati described the scene at the complex as a war zone. for more on this we go live now to yossi kuperwasser, former director general of the israeli ministry of strategic affairs. good evening. good to have you with this. it might help facilities get special protection under international law, and we are hearing many reports from gaza that there is no electricity, there is no fuel, there is no water, no food, and have babies in incubators are dying. and have babies in incubators are d in. _ . ., and have babies in incubators are d inc. ~ . , ., , dying. what is the military necessity _ dying. what is the military necessity of _ dying. what is the military necessity of damaging - dying. what is the military - necessity of damaging hospitals in this way? we necessity of damaging hospitals in this wa ? ~ ., �* necessity of damaging hospitals in thiswa 7~ ., ., necessity of damaging hospitals in thiswa? ., ., this way? we don't damage hospitals. we fi . ht this way? we don't damage hospitals. we fight nenr — this way? we don't damage hospitals. we fight near the _ this way? we don't damage hospitals. we fight near the hospital. _ we fight near the hospital. unfortunately hamas has turned this hospital into a military base. the command post, the major command post of hamas is located just under the hospital. they do the same, by the way, in other hospitals in gaza city. we have to somehow use this challenge. we have not done anything against the hospital. me challenge. we have not done anything against the hospital.— against the hospital. we could dismiss the — against the hospital. we could dismiss the fact _ against the hospital. we could dismiss the fact that - against the hospital. we could dismiss the fact that hamas i against the hospital. we could i dismiss the fact that hamas says they do not have command and control centres under their hospitals. but i have spoken to medics, norwegian doctors, who have worked in gaza for 16 years at al schieffer. they have never seen evidence of hamas command and control centres. they have never seen hamas fighters in these hospitals. when will israel produce evidence... hospitals. when will israel produce evidence---— evidence... israel has reduced evidence. _ evidence... israel has reduced evidence, untie _ evidence... israel has reduced evidence, untie evidence, - evidence... israel has reduced evidence, untie evidence, the | evidence, untie evidence, the location of the command post that is under the hospital and the exact map of how it looks like and all the information was given by israel a couple of weeks ago. it is not a secret any more. this is also based on all kinds of interrogations of the massacre on october the 7th, they also reported the whereabouts of the leadership under the al shifa hospital. i don't know about these norwegian doctors. it is well known that the headquarters of hamas are under the al shifa hospital. there are many internationally - under the al shifa hospital. there are many internationally who - under the al shifa hospital. there are many internationally who say | are many internationally who say that, at the moment, there is indiscriminate and disproportionate force being used in gaza because of the high civilian deaths. 4500 children in gaza have been killed in this conflict. they are not hamas fighters. what does israel say to those accusations? i fighters. what does israel say to those accusations?— fighters. what does israel say to those accusations? i suppose your numbers are _ those accusations? i suppose your numbers are based _ those accusations? i suppose your numbers are based on _ those accusations? i suppose your numbers are based on the - those accusations? i suppose your - numbers are based on the information given by the hamas control, the ministry of health in gaza. yes. given by the hamas control, the ministry of health in gaza. yes, and the minute — ministry of health in gaza. yes, and the minute world _ ministry of health in gaza. yes, and the minute world health _ the minute world health organization.— the minute world health organization. the minute world health ortanization. ., organization. don't have a second source that _ organization. don't have a second source that validates _ organization. don't have a second source that validates this. - organization. don't have a second source that validates this. they i source that validates this. they have stuff _ source that validates this. they have stuff on _ source that validates this. they have stuff on the _ source that validates this. they have stuff on the ground - source that validates this. they have stuff on the ground in gaza. they are talking to other aid agencies as well. many people say it is an underestimate. i agencies as well. many people say it is an underestimate.— is an underestimate. i don't know, nobody knows _ is an underestimate. i don't know, nobody knows the _ is an underestimate. i don't know, nobody knows the numbers, - is an underestimate. i don't know, nobody knows the numbers, but i nobody knows the numbers, but definitely these numbers are coming from the hamas control ministry of health in gaza and everybody quotes them. let's bejust correct health in gaza and everybody quotes them. let's be just correct on the numbers. secondly many of these are young people, seen as children, but they are not children, they are members of hamas. anyhow, the responsibility for that is lying totally on hamas because they use these people as human shields. we are trying to hit hamas targets. we have targeted 15,000 targets. none of them was alleged by hamas itself, not the military target of hamas. 0ne not the military target of hamas. one case was the hospital in which they claimed we have attacked the hospital and caused the death of 500 people. it turned out it was not us than there were not 500 people killed. let's be correct on the numbers and the entire context. hamas tries to block the population from going southwards where we provide them with a safe zone and they want to use them as human shields. ., ., r' they want to use them as human shields. ., . n' , ., they want to use them as human shields. . ., i. ., shields. can i ask you about the ttrowin shields. can i ask you about the growing international... - shields. can i ask you about the growing international... you i shields. can i ask you about the i growing international... you know there is growing international outrage about what is happening, the high civilian deaths, the fact that hospitals cannot operate and there are not functioning health facilities in gaza at the moment. and the accusations of war crimes on both sides as well. given that, even the french president, emmanuel macron, speaking to the bbc today, has said there is no legitimacy or justification for israel's killing of civilians. how long can this go on before a ceasefire, a real ceasefire, is considered? aid agencies as well are telling us, enough is enough.— agencies as well are telling us, enough is enough. there is not going to be a ceasefire _ enough is enough. there is not going to be a ceasefire before _ enough is enough. there is not going to be a ceasefire before we _ enough is enough. there is not going to be a ceasefire before we managed j to be a ceasefire before we managed to be a ceasefire before we managed to uproot hamas from gaza. it is for the best interest of the glasses themselves. we are the only people who can get rid of hamas. iliiui’hat themselves. we are the only people who can get rid of hamas.— who can get rid of hamas. what is the progress _ who can get rid of hamas. what is the progress of — who can get rid of hamas. what is the progress of that? _ who can get rid of hamas. what is the progress of that? how- who can get rid of hamas. what is the progress of that? how close i who can get rid of hamas. what is i the progress of that? how close are you to that is yellow it is going to take some time because it is a difficultjob and hamas is prepared for that eventuality for a long time. ., , ., ., time. there were down but we are to considerable — time. there were down but we are to considerable progress _ time. there were down but we are to considerable progress and _ time. there were down but we are to considerable progress and we - time. there were down but we are to considerable progress and we are - considerable progress and we are close to the al shifa hospital, close to the al shifa hospital, close to the main command post, so we are making progress. it is not easy and it is going to take a while. people have to understand this. the end state is going to be much betterfor this. the end state is going to be much better for everybody. we this. the end state is going to be much betterfor everybody. we are going to get hamas out of gaza. this will enable the international community to come in and reconstruct gaza. community to come in and reconstruct gaza, ,, ., . ., , community to come in and reconstruct gaza. ,, ., community to come in and reconstruct gaza. ,, . ., , gaza. strategically you had been the former director-general _ gaza. strategically you had been the former director-general of _ gaza. strategically you had been the former director-general of strategic | former director—general of strategic affairs. is israel going to have to reoccupy gaza?— affairs. is israel going to have to reoccu gaza? ., , ., reoccupy gaza? no. i hope we should be able to be — reoccupy gaza? no. i hope we should be able to be responsible _ reoccupy gaza? no. i hope we should be able to be responsible for - reoccupy gaza? no. i hope we should be able to be responsible for the - be able to be responsible for the security issues in gaza for a while, until there is a leadership that can take it from us. but civilian life in gaza is going to be handled by local forces. in gaza is going to be handled by localforces. i hope that in gaza is going to be handled by local forces. i hope that we find some browsers that do not identify with hamas and will be ready to run their own life. we have to remember that this is not going to be enough. the international should help us in a test that is not as important, but but what we are witnessing today is that gazans minds are washed by this hate and indoctrination and this incitement that made them ready to carry out the terrible deeds that they did on october seven. vicious killing of civilians. this is something that is a product of an education system that has been going on for decades. something has to be done about that. the international community will be ready to take this mission on it so.— mission on it so. thank you very much for — mission on it so. thank you very much forjoining _ mission on it so. thank you very much forjoining us _ mission on it so. thank you very much forjoining us with - mission on it so. thank you very much forjoining us with your. much forjoining us with your thoughts from tel aviv. listening to that was. live that was. now to new york where i'm joined by unicef�*s communications manager ricardo pires. israel is denying it is targeting hospitals. what is your response because blue what we see on the ground and we hear from because blue what we see on the ground and we hearfrom our colleagues who are bravely enduring this over 30 days of attacks and a nightmare for them and children on the ground, what we hear is that children are suffering, children are scared. , ., children are suffering, children are scared. , . ,, , scared. they are displaced, they have nowhere _ scared. they are displaced, they have nowhere to _ scared. they are displaced, they have nowhere to go, _ scared. they are displaced, they have nowhere to go, they - scared. they are displaced, they have nowhere to go, they are i scared. they are displaced, they - have nowhere to go, they are losing their families and homes and loved ones _ their families and homes and loved ones. reportedly over 4300 children have been_ ones. reportedly over 4300 children have been killed and over 8000 people — have been killed and over 8000 people have been injured, at an average — people have been injured, at an average of— people have been injured, at an average of over 400 children killed or injured _ average of over 400 children killed or injured every day. we have no reason _ or injured every day. we have no reason to— or injured every day. we have no reason to dispute these numbers because — reason to dispute these numbers because this reality is being painted _ because this reality is being painted on the ground and our colleagues can see that. i am 'ust atoin to colleagues can see that. i am 'ust going to interrupt i colleagues can see that. i am 'ust going to interrupt you i colleagues can see that. i am 'ust going to interrupt you there h colleagues can see that. i am just going to interrupt you there on i colleagues can see that. i am just i going to interrupt you there on that very point. that is something ijust put to the previous guest about the numbers. he not only disputes them and thinks they are too high, he also says some of those children are not actually children, presumably he thinks that teenagers or young men who are being killed, young people who are being killed, young people who are being killed, young people who are being killed, are not children. can you explain to us where the figures come from, and how you are able to validate them? this a you are able to validate them? as a matter of principle, _ you are able to validate them? as a matter of principle, for unicef, and practice, _ matter of principle, for unicef, and practice, we — matter of principle, for unicef, and practice, we always strive to be very— practice, we always strive to be very precise with our numbers and we have a _ very precise with our numbers and we have a reputation for that. we are on the _ have a reputation for that. we are on the ground in over 190 countries on the ground in over 190 countries on the _ on the ground in over 190 countries on the front— on the ground in over 190 countries on the front lines, getting reports from _ on the front lines, getting reports from our— on the front lines, getting reports from our partners in the verification is much lengthier the actual— verification is much lengthier the actual verification of violations, but we — actual verification of violations, but we have no reason to dispute these _ but we have no reason to dispute these numbers because, for example, in previous— these numbers because, for example, in previous escalations in the gaza strip, _ in previous escalations in the gaza strip, in— in previous escalations in the gaza strip, in 2004, the report was of 2300 _ strip, in 2004, the report was of 2300 deaths,. un went to verify these _ 2300 deaths,. un went to verify these numbers and there were actually— these numbers and there were actually 2200, including 551 children, which is very close, a margin— children, which is very close, a margin of— children, which is very close, a margin of less than 3% difference. this process has been going on and we have _ this process has been going on and we have no— this process has been going on and we have no reason to dispute that right _ we have no reason to dispute that right now — we have no reason to dispute that right now. it is not only the health authorities. — right now. it is not only the health authorities, we also have the media reporting. _ authorities, we also have the media reporting, the un reporting, organisations, boots on the ground, ncos. _ organisations, boots on the ground, ngos. who— organisations, boots on the ground, ngos, who have access to information on the _ ngos, who have access to information on the numbers we have now, even though— on the numbers we have now, even though they— on the numbers we have now, even though they are not verified, they paint— though they are not verified, they paint a _ though they are not verified, they paint a very clear picture of what is happening and children need to stop dying in this conflict on such a terrible — stop dying in this conflict on such a terrible average, a child every ten minutes injured or killed. this is reatity~ — ten minutes in'ured or killed. this is reali . ., , ., ten minutes in'ured or killed. this is reali . . , ., , ., is reality. that is a staggering fiaure is reality. that is a staggering figure and _ is reality. that is a staggering figure and one _ is reality. that is a staggering figure and one we _ is reality. that is a staggering figure and one we have - is reality. that is a staggering figure and one we have heard | is reality. that is a staggering - figure and one we have heard many times, a child every ten minutes. everyone has to believe that this will come to an end. how do you think, for children that remain in gaza when it does, in terms of dealing with the mental scars and the trauma, what will their future look like? it the trauma, what will their future look like? ., ., , the trauma, what will their future look like? , , ., look like? it looks very glib at the moment, because _ look like? it looks very glib at the moment, because there - look like? it looks very glib at the moment, because there is - look like? it looks very glib at the moment, because there is no - moment, because there is no humanitarian ceasefire. the supplies getting _ humanitarian ceasefire. the supplies getting through them on the ground, the supplies they so desperately need. _ the supplies they so desperately need, are not getting to them. we have heard — need, are not getting to them. we have heard stories today of children. _ have heard stories today of children, babies, having to receive cpr interventions because the equipment keeping them alive no longer— equipment keeping them alive no longer functions. the mental scars are unimaginable, but they will be long—standing before this recent escalation, before this three in every— escalation, before this three in every four— escalation, before this three in every four children in the gaza strip— every four children in the gaza strip was— every four children in the gaza strip was reported in need of mental health— strip was reported in need of mental health support. you can imagine what this number— health support. you can imagine what this number will be from now on. it is a tragedy~ — this number will be from now on. it is a tragedy-— this number will be from now on. it is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture _ is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture and _ is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture and it _ is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture and it is _ is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture and it is one - is a tragedy. you have painted such an awful picture and it is one that i an awful picture and it is one that we have heard and that we know. you work for unicef. what can actually be done? what can you do? brute work for unicef. what can actually be done? what can you do? we have been doin: be done? what can you do? we have been doing in — be done? what can you do? we have been doing in many _ be done? what can you do? we have been doing in many different - been doing in many different countries, for many years. unicef knows _ countries, for many years. unicef knows what — countries, for many years. unicef knows what to do in humanitarian emergencies. we know how to support communities to reveal their futures, but right— communities to reveal their futures, but right now there is no safe place for a _ but right now there is no safe place for a child _ but right now there is no safe place for a child or— but right now there is no safe place for a child or a unicef staff member on the _ for a child or a unicef staff member on the ground. until a humanitarian ceasefire _ on the ground. until a humanitarian ceasefire takes place, and we can -et ceasefire takes place, and we can get more — ceasefire takes place, and we can get more boots on the ground to stop. _ get more boots on the ground to stop. to — get more boots on the ground to stop, to distribute more supplies safely. _ stop, to distribute more supplies safely, and really have a full picture — safely, and really have a full picture and assessment of how urgent these _ picture and assessment of how urgent these needs are and how more investment is needed for children in gaza to _ investment is needed for children in gaza to rebuild their futures, it is very difficult to imagine how long it will— very difficult to imagine how long it will stand, but what we know now is that _ it will stand, but what we know now is that compassion and humanitarian international law, must prevail over war and _ international law, must prevail over war and conflict.— war and conflict. thank you very much forjoining _ war and conflict. thank you very much forjoining us _ war and conflict. thank you very much forjoining us from - war and conflict. thank you very much forjoining us from new i war and conflict. thank you very i much forjoining us from new york, thank you. the leader of lebanon's iran—backed hezbollah group, hassan nasrallah, has called on arab and muslim leaders meeting in riyadh to urge washington to stop israel's military operation in gaza. i spoke earlier with middle east correspondent, hugo bachega on nasrallah's latest speech. this was the second speech by hassan nasrallah since the beginning of this war between israel and hamas. he spoke for more than an hour. there was no major announcement from him, but he talked about the situation on the ground. he said that those attacks that have been carried out by hezbollah over the last month will continue. he described the group's actions along the lebanon—israel border as a support front for hamas in the war in gaza. he also said that hezbollah has intensified its attacks against israel in the past week by launching drones, also more powerful missiles. and he also said that hezbollah has now been targeting positions deeper inside israel. i thought it was also interesting that he talked about attacks that have been carried out by groups in iraq and syria, attacks that have been targeting us bases in those countries. and also he talked about the attacks that have been carried out by the houthi rebels in yemen. and all these groups are part of this so—called axis of resistance, which is this alliance of forces in the middle east that is supported by iran. so he was sort of taking up the position as leader of these, of this alliance, by talking about the actions that have been carried out by those groups across the region. and he said that these attacks are likely to continue because the americans are not putting pressure on israel to stop the war in gaza. and again, he talked about how iran is giving support to those groups, military support, political, financial support, but that he also said that iran is not the force that is deciding how these groups are going to act. so, again, we've been talking about what is happening along the lebanon—israel border for weeks now, and fears that the violence there could escalate, and this could become another front in this conflict. that was hugo but you get there. the french president, emmanuel macron, has told the bbc that israel must stop killing babies, women and the elderly in gaza. in an interview at the elysee palace, he said israel had the right to respond to hamas's attack, but warned that the country could not fight terrorism by killing innocent civilians. he spoke to our europe editor katya adler. we clearly condemn this terrorist attack and terrorist group and recognise the right of israel to protect itself and react. but, day one, we say that this reaction and the fight against terrorism, because it is led by a democracy, should be compliant with international rules, rule of war and humanitarian international law. and day after day, what we saw is a permanent bombing of civilians in gaza. we worked very hard to try to protect people, our people there, because unhappily we lost more than 40 french nationals and we still have hostages. and when i speak about it first, i think about our families. but what happened during the past weeks is that we clearly saw that a lot of civilians were killed. and there is no justification for that. and the clear conclusion of everybody yesterday during the humanitarian conference, from united nations to ngos to all the governments being present, is that there is no other solution than first going to a cease fire which will allow to protect these people, to take care of people being in hospitals and to protect babies, ladies, old people, all the civilians having nothing to deal with these terrorists. and i think it's very important to say the whole story. but i think this is the only solution we have. this ceasefire. because it's impossible to explain, we want to fight against terrorism by killing innocent people. as you say, president macron, you've been very clear right from the beginning about israel's right to defend itself. you've talked about the fight against terrorism needing to be merciless is the word you used, but not without rules. and you've just referred that to the high loss of civilian life in gaza. you've got the united nations secretary general saying gaza is turning into a graveyard for children. do you think israel is respecting those rules, the international rules that you're referring to? look, in the very first days, it's clear that the emotion, the compassion created a situation where everybody was just close to israel and backing them and sharing the pain. and we do share the pain and we do share the willingness to get rid of terrorism. we know what terrorism means in france. but i think there is no justification precisely to attack civilians. there is no justification to make a distinction between the different lives — palestinian lives do matter. and very clearly today these humanitarian rules are not properly respected. let's ta ke let's take you to tel aviv in israel. we can see the family of some of those held hostage, and others gathered in tel aviv. more than 200 people are still being held hostage after the 7th of october. 1200 people were killed, many more taken hostage, and you can see people holding up pictures of their loved ones, desperately calling for them to be rescued to get them back as well. these are pictures live from tel aviv, coming to us at the moment. hamas says it has hidden the hostages in what it calls safe place and tunnels within gaza. we previously heard from the israeli defence forces that these hostages include children as well. about 20 children, and that somehow ditched hostages, we know, have been released. this is the scene in israel, holding up pictures of loved ones taken hostage. 0ngoing negotiations continue this week. we saw the qatari prime minister hosting meetings. he had the heads of the cia and mossad as well. reportedly during that meeting they discussed the possible terms of a deal for more hostages to discussed the possible terms of a dealfor more hostages to be released as well. diplomatically we also saw hamas officials in cairo, just for a day this week. there are suggestions there met with senior egyptian intelligence officials there, also to discuss the possible release of more hostages. these scenes live from tel aviv at the moment. do stay with us here on bbc news. hello. there is a pretty good chance of observing the northern lights, where the skies will be clear. in the south it is a different story, and advancing weather front means thick cloud and outbreaks of rain, andindeed thick cloud and outbreaks of rain, and indeed tomorrow it is a wet one for many others. but not everywhere, i think in the north the best of the weather. 0n the satellite picture, here is the weather front approaching the british isles. thick cloud already in place across many western and south—western areas. a wet evening here and the skies will remain clearerfor the wet evening here and the skies will remain clearer for the longest the further north and east you are. the forecast then, this evening shows clear skies in the north, but thickening cloud across ireland, outbreaks of rain, rain reaching wales, the south west, central and southern england too. when skies would have been clear over night, and with light winds, a touch of some mist and fog forming here as well through the lowlands. the vale of york as well, but to the south of that where we have the strong winds, and that weather front is a wet story here, really murky and drizzly. let's have a look at the picture around late morning. seen sunshine and clear skies across much of scotland, sunshine for edinburgh, fine weatherfor of scotland, sunshine for edinburgh, fine weather for newcastle and most of the north sea coast. further west and south it is a cloudy picture with rain at times. you can see it is not a coherent area of rain, far from it. you can see pulses of rain here, one in the north and another one here approaching wales in the south—west. if anything, towards the end of the afternoon, we might see a return of some bright, if not sunny weather to south—western parts of england and wales, just in time and before sunset. let's have a look at the forecast for monday. a large area of low pressure just across the north atlantic. weather front crossing the uk. look at all of that rain, strengthening winds as well, risk of gale force winds around some of these western coast. it really could be very windy for a time, say in the irish sea. i think the wettest of the weather in the second half of the day will be in the north there, anywhere from northern ireland to scotland i think, a fair amount of rain to come. the outlook for the week ahead is a very unsettled one. most places most days are in for some rain. perhaps towards the end of the week something a little bit more dry and bright. goodbye. live from london, this is bbc news. an estimated 300,000 people march through the streets of london — calling for a ceasefire in gaza. police officers clash with what they describe as counter—protesters — more than 100 people have been arrested. in gaza itself, concerns grow over staff and patients at the territory's largest hospital which is surrounded by israeli forces. french president emmanuel macron calls for a ceasefire and tells the bbc israel must stop killing civilians. hello, i'm rich preston. police in the uk say 300,000 pro—palestinian protestors have marched through central london calling for a ceasefire in gaza. it's the biggest rally of its kind since the start of the israel—hamas war. police say some counter protestors, including right—wing groups around the cenotaph, were intent on causing trouble. the met says more than 100 of them were arrested. it follows days of controversy about today's march taking place on armistice day, and comments from the home secretary who said the police are biased in favour of pro—palestinian demonstrators. here's our home editor, mark easton. despite or perhaps because government ministers were encouraging people to stay away, this afternoon's pro—palestinian march brought more than 300,000 people onto the streets of central london, easily the largest protest since the current israel—gaza conflict began. it's 11. it's11, says one demonstrator, as groups marked the armistice with a two—minute silence. quite a number of protesters were wearing poppies.