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involved, that rolls up its sleeves, that offers — involved, that rolls up its sleeves, that offers the hand of partnership in pursuit— that offers the hand of partnership in pursuit of the national interest. with ctear— in pursuit of the national interest. with clear fiscal rules, signed and followed — with clear fiscal rules, signed and followed rigorously. britishjobs tmus— followed rigorously. britishjobs bonus that will attract new investment to our industrial heartland. we light the fire renewal in communities, and a new national wealth— in communities, and a new national wealth fund, — in communities, and a new national wealth fund, will work together to invest— wealth fund, will work together to invest in— wealth fund, will work together to invest in the crucial infrastructure that the _ invest in the crucial infrastructure that the north—east desperately needs — that the north—east desperately needs ~— that the north—east desperately needs. . the hydrogen and carbon capture _ needs. . the hydrogen and carbon capture technology that can provide an industrial future with teesside. , so the _ an industrial future with teesside. , so the east coast can lead the world _ , so the east coast can lead the world in— , so the east coast can lead the world in offshore wind. this is what the king's— world in offshore wind. this is what the king's speech should be about, come _ the king's speech should be about, come and _ the king's speech should be about, come and grow our country from the grassroots. — come and grow our country from the grassroots, because britain needs a new business model and you all know changing _ new business model and you all know changing a _ new business model and you all know changing a business model is hard. but this— changing a business model is hard. but this is— changing a business model is hard. but this is our plan. a plan to expand — but this is our plan. a plan to expand the country's productive capabilities, but at the same time to change — capabilities, but at the same time to change your benefits. a britain where _ to change your benefits. a britain where growth comes from regions like this, a _ where growth comes from regions like this, a britain where growth serves regions _ this, a britain where growth serves regions like — this, a britain where growth serves regions like this. with infrastructure built more quickly. young _ infrastructure built more quickly. young people but not potential back to. young people but not potential back to the _ young people but not potential back to. the jobs of the future here in your— to. the jobs of the future here in your town — to. the jobs of the future here in your town. the backbone of this country— your town. the backbone of this country once again powering us forward — country once again powering us forward towards national renewal. add britain with its future back. thank _ add britain with its future back. thank you — add britain with its future back. thank you very much. thank you very much. we are going to take some _ thank you very much. we are going to take some questions now. i will start— take some questions now. i will start with — take some questions now. i will start with the media then we have some _ start with the media then we have some questions from within the room. can i some questions from within the room. can i start _ some questions from within the room. can i start with catherine foster from _ can i start with catherine foster from gb — can i start with catherine foster from gb news?— can i start with catherine foster from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate _ from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate that — from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate that this _ from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate that this is _ from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate that this is not - from gb news? good afternoon. i appreciate that this is not why - appreciate that this is not why everyone is here, but obviously events in the middle east are uppermost in mind. two labour council leaders have called on you to resign because of your refusal to call for a ceasefire. the labour party seems to be horribly divided. what are you going to do about that? i understand why people feel very strongly— i understand why people feel very strongly about this, not just in the labour— strongly about this, not just in the labour party but in all political parties — labour party but in all political parties and across the country because — parties and across the country because every day we can see the awful— because every day we can see the awful suffering going on in israel and in _ awful suffering going on in israel and in gas — awful suffering going on in israel and in gas. for me, this isn't about and in gas. for me, this isn't about a particular— and in gas. for me, this isn't about a particular position taken by individuals within the labour party, it is about — individuals within the labour party, it is about alleviating that suffering. just at the moment we desperately need humanitarian aid to -et desperately need humanitarian aid to get any— desperately need humanitarian aid to get any faster into gaza. we can see the images — get any faster into gaza. we can see the images of children and innocent civilians _ the images of children and innocent civilians dying and suffering in this situation there. i think that the quickest way, the most practical and effective way to get that changed is to have a humanitarian pause _ changed is to have a humanitarian pause and — changed is to have a humanitarian pause and to pile on the pressure to -et pause and to pile on the pressure to get those _ pause and to pile on the pressure to get those tracks in with the aid that is— get those tracks in with the aid that is needed, the water, the mets the fuel— that is needed, the water, the mets the fuel that is desperately, desperately needed. as we speak secretary— desperately needed. as we speak secretary of state anthony blunkett is in israel: for those very things in line _ is in israel: for those very things in line with — is in israel: for those very things in line with what i said just two or three _ in line with what i said just two or three ago. — in line with what i said just two or three ago, so my focus is on alleviating the full suffering of alleviating the full suffering of all of — alleviating the full suffering of all of those that are caught up in the situation that has developed over the — the situation that has developed over the last few weeks. whatever the individual positions of members of nty— the individual positions of members of my party, that is not my focus. my focus — of my party, that is not my focus. my focus is — of my party, that is not my focus. my focus is driving forwards to make sure all— my focus is driving forwards to make sure all of— my focus is driving forwards to make sure all of us can take responsibility for ensuring that we do what _ responsibility for ensuring that we do what we can to alleviate that situation — do what we can to alleviate that situation. at do what we can to alleviate that situation. �* . do what we can to alleviate that situation. . . ,., , ., situation. at what point might you shift are calling _ situation. at what point might you shift are calling for _ situation. at what point might you shift are calling for a _ situation. at what point might you shift are calling for a ceasefire? i shift are calling for a ceasefire? specifically, what would your bread lines be? there has been accusations of white phosphorus being used. bombing of safe routes. warts are your red lines when it comes to israel behaviour? i your red lines when it comes to israel behaviour?— israel behaviour? i sat in my osition israel behaviour? i sat in my position clearly _ israel behaviour? i sat in my position clearly on _ israel behaviour? i sat in my position clearly on tuesday. | israel behaviour? i sat in my- position clearly on tuesday. what we have seen _ position clearly on tuesday. what we have seen is — position clearly on tuesday. what we have seen is the worst terrorist attack — have seen is the worst terrorist attack on — have seen is the worst terrorist attack on israel since the holocaust. and the humanitarian crisis _ holocaust. and the humanitarian crisis that— holocaust. and the humanitarian crisis that was already in existence and gaza, — crisis that was already in existence and gaza, which is claimed far too nrany— and gaza, which is claimed far too many innocent lives already. we have to alleviate _ many innocent lives already. we have to alleviate that. at the moment, the only— to alleviate that. at the moment, the only practical way to do that is with humanitarian causes. to say to a sovereign — with humanitarian causes. to say to a sovereign country when 200 of its civilians _ a sovereign country when 200 of its civilians being held hostage that they must give up their right to self defence is not for me the correct — self defence is not for me the correct position. and anyone who has watched _ correct position. and anyone who has watched the — correct position. and anyone who has watched the images in the last two or three _ watched the images in the last two or three days testing precisely what hamas— or three days testing precisely what hamas saying about this. we have to concentrate — hamas saying about this. we have to concentrate on the need, concentrate on the _ concentrate on the need, concentrate on the innocent civilians caught in this, _ on the innocent civilians caught in this, the — on the innocent civilians caught in this, the children, the young people. _ this, the children, the young people, the civilians in gaza, those in israel— people, the civilians in gaza, those in israel whose subjects are still being _ in israel whose subjects are still being subject to attack. humanitarian causes to get that aid in and _ humanitarian causes to get that aid in and alleviate the situation. our focus _ in and alleviate the situation. our focus should be enthused who most desperately need our support and help. _ desperately need our support and help. not— desperately need our support and help, not on political voices in our own country _ help, not on politicalvoices in our own country-— help, not on politicalvoices in our own count . . . . ., own country. amanda from sky news? you have come — own country. amanda from sky news? you have come here _ own country. amanda from sky news? you have come here to _ own country. amanda from sky news? you have come here to the _ own country. amanda from sky news? you have come here to the north-east| you have come here to the north—east to talk about your vision for growing the economy, but everything you're saying is still really overshadowed by labour's divisions overshadowed by labour's divisions over the issue of gaza, with conciliators calling on you to resign, members of the front bench speaking against the party line. how frustrating is it for you that it is so overshadowed currently by the divisions over gaza? do you think it could jeopardise the potential for you to win a majority at the next general election? do you agree with jess phillips to british citizens need to be getting out of gaza more quickly and the uk government needs to be doing more?— to be doing more? everything i have “ust said in to be doing more? everything i have just said in the _ to be doing more? everything i have just said in the last _ to be doing more? everything i have just said in the last 50 _ to be doing more? everything i have just said in the last 50 minutes - just said in the last 50 minutes about— just said in the last 50 minutes about growing our economy, working with business at ear to drive our country— with business at ear to drive our country forward is something upon which _ country forward is something upon which the — country forward is something upon which the whole of the labour party is completely united. we had a conference just 3.5 weeks ago. 18,000 — conference just 3.5 weeks ago. 18,000 people there, absolute clarity— 18,000 people there, absolute clarity to— 18,000 people there, absolute clarity to show that we had a plan, that we _ clarity to show that we had a plan, that we were confident and imploring the country— that we were confident and imploring the country to turn its back on 30 years _ the country to turn its back on 30 years of _ the country to turn its back on 30 years of decline and go forward with a decade _ years of decline and go forward with a decade of— years of decline and go forward with a decade of national renewal. there isn't a _ a decade of national renewal. there isn't a single dissent in the labour party— isn't a single dissent in the labour party about — isn't a single dissent in the labour party about any of that. all of what i party about any of that. all of what i have _ party about any of that. all of what i have just — party about any of that. all of what i have just said has been put together— i have just said has been put together after talking to businesses, which i hope will deliver— businesses, which i hope will deliver with us on that as we go forward — deliver with us on that as we go forward so— deliver with us on that as we go forward. so there is complete unity on that— forward. so there is complete unity on that issue. on the question of gas _ on that issue. on the question of gas there — on that issue. on the question of gas. there is also unity. whether people _ gas. there is also unity. whether people are — gas. there is also unity. whether people are asking for a ceasefire or humanitarian pause, comes from the same _ humanitarian pause, comes from the same place. — humanitarian pause, comes from the same place, which is people. this is not unique — same place, which is people. this is not unique to — same place, which is people. this is not unique to the labour party. people — not unique to the labour party. people across the country want to see an _ people across the country want to see an alleviation. i am not surprised _ see an alleviation. i am not surprised that people are trying to id surprised that people are trying to go for— surprised that people are trying to go for any— surprised that people are trying to go for any option that they see would — go for any option that they see would alleviate the awful situation. i would alleviate the awful situation. i don't _ would alleviate the awful situation. i don't think that should be taken as a idon't think that should be taken as a great— i don't think that should be taken as a great division. that is a human enrotion _ as a great division. that is a human emotion. what i have done is to share _ emotion. what i have done is to share that — emotion. what i have done is to share that emotion when i see children— share that emotion when i see children dying. i have two children. i children dying. i have two children. i know— children dying. i have two children. i know exactly how this goes to the heart _ i know exactly how this goes to the heart. what i have concentrated on is what _ heart. what i have concentrated on is what is _ heart. what i have concentrated on is what is the practical way to alleviate _ is what is the practical way to alleviate the situation on the ground? _ alleviate the situation on the ground? what are the usn? what are other countries in the middle east then? _ other countries in the middle east then? because you can't wish for the situation _ then? because you can't wish for the situation change —— to change, you have _ situation change —— to change, you have to _ situation change —— to change, you have to work— situation change —— to change, you have to work on it to change. we need _ have to work on it to change. we need to— have to work on it to change. we need to ensure that if at all possible _ need to ensure that if at all possible we can change the situation on the _ possible we can change the situation on the ground, and there are things to change. — on the ground, and there are things to change, we have been calling for weeks _ to change, we have been calling for weeks for— to change, we have been calling for weeks for more trucks to get in with more _ weeks for more trucks to get in with more aids~ — weeks for more trucks to get in with more aids. i'm frustrated that that isn't happening and i think it is the responsibility for that to change _ the responsibility for that to change very fast. i know that is what _ change very fast. i know that is what the — change very fast. i know that is what the us are trying to push on the ground — what the us are trying to push on the ground as we speak. that is my approach _ the ground as we speak. that is my approach to— the ground as we speak. that is my approach to this. on the question of growing _ approach to this. on the question of growing the economy and taking our country— growing the economy and taking our country forward, a decade of national— country forward, a decade of national renewal, there is complete unity in _ national renewal, there is complete unity in the — national renewal, there is complete unity in the labour party, built on the nfany— unity in the labour party, built on the many conversations we have had with some _ the many conversations we have had with some people in this room, other businesses. — with some people in this room, other businesses, other communities up and down the _ businesses, other communities up and down the country because i think the country— down the country because i think the country is _ down the country because i think the country is crying out for a change and the _ country is crying out for a change and the sooner we get the opportunity to bring about that change — opportunity to bring about that change the better. have i got banned from the _ change the better. have i got banned from the telegraph? you change the better. have i got banned from the telegraph?— from the telegraph? you were s-ueakin from the telegraph? you were speaking about _ from the telegraph? you were speaking about labour- from the telegraph? you were speaking about labour unity i from the telegraph? you were . speaking about labour unity then. will you sack any shadow cabinet minister who calls for a ceasefire in gaza? i minister who calls for a ceasefire in gaza? . . . , minister who calls for a ceasefire ingaza? . , , , ., in gaza? i have set up my position in gaza? i have set up my position in relation — in gaza? i have set up my position in relation to _ in gaza? i have set up my position in relation to this _ in gaza? i have set up my position in relation to this at _ in gaza? i have set up my position in relation to this at length - in gaza? i have set up my position in relation to this at length on - in relation to this at length on tuesday— in relation to this at length on tuesday in the speech i gave at chatham — tuesday in the speech i gave at chatham house. i have just set it three _ chatham house. i have just set it three or— chatham house. i have just set it three or four times now. i think you can see _ three or four times now. i think you can see exactly where i am on this. collective _ can see exactly where i am on this. collective responsibility is important, it is myjob as leader of the party— important, it is myjob as leader of the party to— important, it is myjob as leader of the party to assess how we enforce and bring _ the party to assess how we enforce and bring about collective responsibility and will do so, but i have _ responsibility and will do so, but i have set— responsibility and will do so, but i have set out my position clearly. i am not _ have set out my position clearly. i am not doing so in accordance with particular— am not doing so in accordance with particular views that individual members of the labour party may or may members of the labour party may or nfay not— members of the labour party may or may not take. i do think that should be the _ may not take. i do think that should be the priority. the priority is to -et be the priority. the priority is to get change _ be the priority. the priority is to get change in the situationjust be the priority. the priority is to get change in the situation just as quickly— get change in the situation just as quickly as— get change in the situation just as quickly as we can. get change in the situation “ust as quickly as we can.�* quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello, quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello. what _ quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello, what is _ quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello, what is your _ quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello, what is your reaction - quickly as we can. tom, from pa. hello, what is your reaction to - quickly as we can. tom, from pa. l hello, what is your reaction to what has come out of the covid—i9 inquiry this week and what does it say about how to govern in the 2ist century? many people in this room will have read and _ many people in this room will have read and seen some of that evidence. ithink— read and seen some of that evidence. i think it _ read and seen some of that evidence. i think it is _ read and seen some of that evidence. i think it is a — read and seen some of that evidence. i think it is a shocking indictment of the _ i think it is a shocking indictment of the way— i think it is a shocking indictment of the way our government conducted its business _ of the way our government conducted its business in that period. just looking — its business in that period. just looking around the room at the many businesses. — looking around the room at the many businesses, they would not tolerate that way— businesses, they would not tolerate that way of— businesses, they would not tolerate that way of behaving in their own business — that way of behaving in their own business whatever the crisis. the nfisnratch— business whatever the crisis. the mismatch between that behaviour and the behaviour that goes on in other environments is huge. obviously, we need all— environments is huge. obviously, we need all of— environments is huge. obviously, we need all of the questions to be answered, we are only at the foothills _ answered, we are only at the foothills of the evidence so far, but those — foothills of the evidence so far, but those were the most searching guestions — but those were the most searching questions of those who lost loved ones. _ questions of those who lost loved ones. and — questions of those who lost loved ones, and in particular those who lost loved — ones, and in particular those who lost loved ones when they couldn't see them — lost loved ones when they couldn't see them for the last time. there are too— see them for the last time. there are too many stories to set out here. _ are too many stories to set out here. everybody in this room will have _ here. everybody in this room will have been— here. everybody in this room will have been touched by what happened in that— have been touched by what happened in that period. i think the government needs to accounted them for the _ government needs to accounted them for the way— government needs to accounted them for the way in which are conducted itself. _ for the way in which are conducted itself. but — for the way in which are conducted itself, but there is a shocking mismatch _ itself, but there is a shocking mismatch between the behaviour that we are _ mismatch between the behaviour that we are saying describes and the behaviour— we are saying describes and the behaviour that i am everybody else in this— behaviour that i am everybody else in this room would expect in the environments. the sooner this government is held to account for that the _ government is held to account for that the better. i also have other questions — that the better. i also have other questions from people in the room. i have john _ questions from people in the room. i have jothohnson. questions from people in the room. i have john johnson.— have john johnson. welcome to the north-east- — have john johnson. welcome to the north-east. what _ have john johnson. welcome to the north-east. what i _ have john johnson. welcome to the north-east. what i would _ have john johnson. welcome to the north-east. what i would like - have john johnson. welcome to the north-east. what i would like to . have john johnson. welcome to the | north-east. what i would like to ask north—east. what i would like to ask is if elected how would you set about managing what seems to be the increasingly combative nature of politics, particularly associated with the five year electoral process, so if a country gets really good long—term policy as opposed to short—term populist ones? in that context, how would you try to encourage some really meaningful debate on the critical issues facing the country, be that the future of the country, be that the future of the nhs, the investment in national infrastructure or as long—term coherence, balance housing strategy? because it do fear if you don't have that debate and start to get some consensus on issues that will span many parliamentary terms, that the issues will just many parliamentary terms, that the issues willjust be hijacked by political parties for political gain. political parties for political aain. , ., . ~' ,, political parties for political aain. , ., . ,, ., political parties for political gain. john, thank you for that question. _ gain. john, thank you for that question, which _ gain. john, thank you for that question, which goes - gain. john, thank you for that question, which goes to - gain. john, thank you for that question, which goes to the l gain. john, thank you for that - question, which goes to the heart of my thinking — question, which goes to the heart of my thinking my frustration. if i was to pick— my thinking my frustration. if i was to pick out— my thinking my frustration. if i was to pick out one thing above all else that i_ to pick out one thing above all else that i think— to pick out one thing above all else that i think has been the cause for lack of— that i think has been the cause for lack of meaningful growth in our economy— lack of meaningful growth in our economy in the last 13 years, it is this chopping and changing, the sticking — this chopping and changing, the sticking plaster policies where you chop and — sticking plaster policies where you chop and change the whole time. we have had _ chop and change the whole time. we have had three prime ministers in three _ have had three prime ministers in three years, we had four chancellors last year. _ three years, we had four chancellors last year. for— three years, we had four chancellors last year, for micro—budget last year _ last year, for micro—budget last year knife _ last year, for micro—budget last year. knife have forgotten how many business _ year. knife have forgotten how many business secretaries in the last ten years _ business secretaries in the last ten years that— business secretaries in the last ten years. that is causing... it is politically— years. that is causing... it is politically funny and you might even think it _ politically funny and you might even think it is _ politically funny and you might even think it is to the advantage of the opposition, but it is so bad for our country. _ opposition, but it is so bad for our country. for— opposition, but it is so bad for our country, for our economy. it all to no end _ country, for our economy. it all to no end of— country, for our economy. it all to no end of investors who say it isn't that i_ no end of investors who say it isn't that i don't— no end of investors who say it isn't that i don't have the money to invest. — that i don't have the money to invest. i'm _ that i don't have the money to invest, i'mjust not that i don't have the money to invest, i'm just not investing in the uk — invest, i'm just not investing in the uk right now because it is too short— the uk right now because it is too short chops and changes and doesn't have the _ short chops and changes and doesn't have the strategic ability that i need _ have the strategic ability that i need if— have the strategic ability that i need if i'm going to put my money into projects in this country. it is almost _ into projects in this country. it is almost not — into projects in this country. it is almost not party political for me. nobody. — almost not party political for me. nobody, whatever party therein, wants _ nobody, whatever party therein, wants to — nobody, whatever party therein, wants to see a situation like that. that is— wants to see a situation like that. that is why— wants to see a situation like that. that is why i have been very clear that an _ that is why i have been very clear that an incoming labour government, if we are _ that an incoming labour government, if we are privileged to serve, add to service — if we are privileged to serve, add to service the way i sate, will be mission — to service the way i sate, will be mission driven, and that is notjust a catchphrase, it is intended to say we will— a catchphrase, it is intended to say we will set — a catchphrase, it is intended to say we will set out in terms five missions. _ we will set out in terms five missions, five things that we will drive _ missions, five things that we will drive at — missions, five things that we will drive at. growth being the number one. _ drive at. growth being the number one, because without that you can -et one, because without that you can get anything else done. they will be strategies _ get anything else done. they will be strategies underpinning a decade of national— strategies underpinning a decade of national renewal. they have to be strong _ national renewal. they have to be strong enough, strategic, long—term, so that— strong enough, strategic, long—term, so that they— strong enough, strategic, long—term, so that they create the conditions of stability and confidence that we need in _ of stability and confidence that we need in our economy. in order to make _ need in our economy. in order to make that — need in our economy. in order to make that happen we have to do a number— make that happen we have to do a number of— make that happen we have to do a number of things. the first is we need _ number of things. the first is we need to— number of things. the first is we need to make sure that you are all comfortable with the missions. if we are going _ comfortable with the missions. if we are going to come into the government to deliver long—term missions— government to deliver long—term missions will need you alongside us to work— missions will need you alongside us to work with us, because i don't believe — to work with us, because i don't believe in — to work with us, because i don't believe in sucking everything up to westminster and whitehall. don't think— westminster and whitehall. don't think governments run business better— think governments run business better than business does. i don't believe _ better than business does. i don't believe that the free market on its own achieves everything you want to achieve _ own achieves everything you want to achieve. there needs to be a partnership between us. your fingerprints have to be on the missions— fingerprints have to be on the missions in the first place. that runs— missions in the first place. that runs the — missions in the first place. that runs the risk of if we get into government saying i wouldn't have done _ government saying i wouldn't have done that— government saying i wouldn't have done that in the first place! there needs— done that in the first place! there needs to — done that in the first place! there needs to be a stability about the project — needs to be a stability about the project it— needs to be a stability about the project. it is also a decade of national— project. it is also a decade of national renewal, which is not me getting _ national renewal, which is not me getting ahead of myself. obviously, it is a _ getting ahead of myself. obviously, it is a five _ getting ahead of myself. obviously, it is a five year term, but we have to accept — it is a five year term, but we have to accept that some things are going to accept that some things are going to take _ to accept that some things are going to take longer than five years to fix. to take longer than five years to fix if— to take longer than five years to fix if you — to take longer than five years to fix. if you don't do the quick fix, we will— fix. if you don't do the quick fix, we will get — fix. if you don't do the quick fix, we will get there. the nhs is a classic— we will get there. the nhs is a classic example. my wife works in the nhs. — classic example. my wife works in the nhs. i— classic example. my wife works in the nhs, i kept daily frustration of it. the nhs, i kept daily frustration of it every— the nhs, i kept daily frustration of it. every year we get to this time of year— it. every year we get to this time of year and — it. every year we get to this time of year and we will very soon enter a winter— of year and we will very soon enter a winter crisis. we have had a winter— a winter crisis. we have had a winter crisis every year for as many years— winter crisis every year for as many years as _ winter crisis every year for as many years as any— winter crisis every year for as many years as any of us can remember. it -ets years as any of us can remember. it gets really— years as any of us can remember. it gets really cute over christmas and january— gets really cute over christmas and january and in about january or february— january and in about january or february a _ january and in about january or february a little bit of money is put into — february a little bit of money is put into alleviate the situation, a sticking — put into alleviate the situation, a sticking plaster that gets it through to april or may. summer is a bit of— through to april or may. summer is a bit of relief _ through to april or may. summer is a bit of relief that we start the cycle — bit of relief that we start the cycle again, the only difference is that the _ cycle again, the only difference is that the next winter crisis will be worse _ that the next winter crisis will be worse than — that the next winter crisis will be worse than the one before. we need to work— worse than the one before. we need to work with — worse than the one before. we need to work with you, which is why we are using — to work with you, which is why we are using a — to work with you, which is why we are using a lot of the time between now and _ are using a lot of the time between now and the election to make sure that we _ now and the election to make sure that we have got it right, that having — that we have got it right, that having an _ that we have got it right, that having an opportunity to input into water— having an opportunity to input into water at _ having an opportunity to input into water at the conditions of stability that you _ water at the conditions of stability that you need to ensure that we can to do— that you need to ensure that we can to do this _ that you need to ensure that we can to do this over a term. finally on this. _ to do this over a term. finally on this. john. — to do this over a term. finally on this, john, because i think this is one of— this, john, because i think this is one of the — this, john, because i think this is one of the most single most important wrong ideas and politics, the idea _ important wrong ideas and politics, the idea that you can do things in short— the idea that you can do things in short bursts is crucifying our economy _ short bursts is crucifying our economy. we want a decorative rash -- national— economy. we want a decorative rash —— national renewal. renewal is important — —— national renewal. renewal is important because it is notjust fixing. — important because it is notjust fixing. but— important because it is notjust fixing, but taking our country forward _ fixing, but taking our country forward. national is important because — forward. national is important because i_ forward. national is important because i want to recognise that there _ because i want to recognise that there are — because i want to recognise that there are many people who wouldn't necessarily— there are many people who wouldn't necessarily be tribal labour, if you'd — necessarily be tribal labour, if you'd like. _ necessarily be tribal labour, if you'd like, who would be interested in an— you'd like, who would be interested in an national project to renew our country _ in an national project to renew our country. therefore, ithink in an national project to renew our country. therefore, i think it has to be _ country. therefore, i think it has to be broad _ country. therefore, i think it has to be broad enough, you can'tjust be badged — to be broad enough, you can'tjust be badged in the narrow colours of one political party, it has to be wider— one political party, it has to be wider to— one political party, it has to be wider to that so it is an invitation for people — wider to that so it is an invitation for people to come on this journey with us _ for people to come on this journey with us i— for people to come on this journey with us. i hope those who are the conditions — with us. i hope those who are the conditions that will turn around. jobs are — conditions that will turn around. jobs are one of the most central parts _ jobs are one of the most central parts of— jobs are one of the most central parts of politics. 30 jobs are one of the most central parts of politics.— parts of politics. so camera speaking — parts of politics. so camera speaking -- _ parts of politics. so camera speaking -- sir— parts of politics. so camera speaking -- sir keir - parts of politics. so cameral speaking -- sir keir starmer speaking —— sir keir starmer speaking —— sir keir starmer speaking there in county durham. he mentioned that reasonable length his stance on the war in gaza. and of course a division within his party over whether he should be calling or not for a permanent ceasefire. he was very clear there that he felt that israel have the right as a sovereign country to defend itself, but that it would be important to pause hostilities to allow the flow of aid through into the gaza strip. he also went on at some length about infrastructure building in the uk and is really talking head of the king's speech on the 7th of november about what the strategy should be. life now to our political correspondent hannah miller. starting with gas, what is the key message, do you think? what starting with gas, what is the key message, do you think? what you heard there _ message, do you think? what you heard there was _ message, do you think? what you heard there was sir _ message, do you think? what you heard there was sir keir _ message, do you think? what you heard there was sir keir starmer l heard there was sir keir starmer really seeking to play down the divisions within his party over this issue. we have counted over 60 labour mps who have publicly stated positions that could be perceived to be at odds with what he is saying. people wanting him to go further and recall one of the things they are suggesting among 260 or so it is for a permanent ceasefire. they were council leaders as well late last night calling on him to go for refusing to back a ceasefire. will be heard there was sent simply saying that those divisions within his party, that is not my focus, is what he said. he is clearly looking to move beyond looking internally at his party and look more internationally, making a virtue of following the positions closely that other international partners are taking. that does leave open the question that some people who are unhappy with his position will be asking about when exactly his position might change. he has not said he will never call for a ceasefire, but he is very clear that, at the moment, he doesn't believe that that is the position to believe that that is the position to be taking. believe that that is the position to be takina. ,., , . believe that that is the position to be takina. , . . be taking. does that have the otential be taking. does that have the potential to — be taking. does that have the potential to cause _ be taking. does that have the potential to cause further- be taking. does that have the - potential to cause further division in the party? i potential to cause further division in the party?— potential to cause further division in the party? i think he has shifted his position _ in the party? i think he has shifted his position in _ in the party? i think he has shifted his position in recent _ in the party? i think he has shifted his position in recent days - in the party? i think he has shifted his position in recent days to - his position in recent days to strengthen his language about the need for humanitarian aid and humanitarian pause. that has made some of his mps feel a little bit more satisfied with the direction of travel, but there are certainly those who definitely want him to go further, including some on his front bench. he will have been looking for that very closely and will be looking to see how they react and whether his language today and the language of following international partners is really enough. there will be some i think you were wanting to go further. he has continued _ wanting to go further. he has continued with _ wanting to go further. he has continued with a _ wanting to go further. he has continued with a team - wanting to go further. he has continued with a team of- wanting to go further. he has - continued with a team of renewal, which is something that started at the party conference, this focus on infrastructure, industrial strategy, reinforcing that.— reinforcing that. essentially this was sir keir _ reinforcing that. essentially this was sir keir starmer _ reinforcing that. essentially this was sir keir starmer using - reinforcing that. essentially this was sir keir starmer using the l was sir keir starmer using the opportunity to restate what he had talked about at the party conference, pledging to get britain building again as the slogan we keep hearing. it was interesting that he chose to go to the north—east chamber of commerce to do that. it certainly feels like the conditions created by the conservative government have left many businesses feeling unhappy, uncertain about the future, particularly after the cancellation of some infrastructure projects in the uk. he is clearly trying to purchase party is one that is a friend of business, that can work with businesses. that is why he has chosen to go to a part of the country where his party had been struggling to win support in recent years, and also to speak specifically to business leaders, because he wants them to be on site come the next general election. he felt more comfortable and was trying to move the centre of gravity of the conversation in that direction because i he pointed out, the party is much more as one over that issue. absolutely, yeah. the labour party are certainly hoping that they can really grasp the power at the next election and that would be the first time in 13 years where they feel that they could really do that. they don't want these divisions to be highlighted on the israel— gaza situation. they want to be talking about what they will do in the uk and i think, to some extent, the way that the party has held together in recent weeks over israel and gaza is because they feel like they are potentially quite close to power and they feel like those issues where they feel like those issues where they are unified are the things that will help them to win.— it isa it is a much quieter today than yesterday. still some heavy showers developing including once more for the south coast. the centre of the deep area of low pressure has moved out into the north sea, but the associated bands have been causing damage all over western europe. there is another deeply pushing in from the south—west overnight tonight. forthe from the south—west overnight tonight. for the rest of today still some blustery winds for eastern scotland. there has been some rain here, that men pushing further westwards. the winds are a lot lighter elsewhere and the north—westerly wind has put in more showers into northern ireland and onto western wales. a few showers further south and east, but also sunny spells with temperatures peaking between ten and ia. not moving very much at all fair. overnight tonight, with the lighter winds over scotland and northern ireland, we could see mist and fog form. temperatures will dip back to mid single figures again, but will rise again. heavy downpours for wales and the south—west event for saturday morning. a tight... guild is possible for the channel islands, particularly on saturday morning and strong, gusty winds for the channel coasts. further persistent rain moves further north which, gradually waking into saturday afternoon. there will be a rash of thundery showers following a behind. northern england should stay largely dry with perhaps just the odd isolated shower. on saturday night, more showers, potentially heavy and thundery in northern england. this pushes away into the north sea once again. we are drawing more of a north—westerly wind into sunday. the focus of the showers will be different without north—westerly, the showers mostly across northern ireland, perhaps western wales and the south—west of england. further research will be largely dry but it could be cloudy for much of the day. temperatures between ten and ia. if your celebrating bonfire night, be aware that the ground will be soggy. sunday will be the best night with showers in the west. goodbye. with hamas in gaza. israel says its soldiers have completely encircled gaza city, the biggest city in the territory. almost 100 british nationals are on a list to escape from gaza today, over the rafah crossing into egypt. translation: what is important for me is to leave gaza, - leave the city of death, and then i will think about where to go and what to do. also on the programme this lunchtime: clearing up after storm ciaran, with many flood warnings still in place. the australian woman accused of murdering three people with deadly mushrooms — police say she tried to kill her ex—husband on several previous occasions. and why climate change may be behind a big rise in the number of jellyfish spotted in british waters. and coming up on bbc news: ben stokes will have knee surgery after the world cup. the england player has been unable to bowl at the tournament in india.

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