we will get reaction tonight from msf, whose doctors are working both inside gaza and on the outside, in egypt. qatar has played a crucial role in these negotiations. but the officials in doha say the uptick in israeli attacks is complicating the process. there was another huge israeli strike today in the jabalia refugee camp. amid unverified reports from hamas that seven hostages were killed. we will hear tonight from the former hostage negotiator, oliver mcternan on what he makes of the israeli governments tactics. good evening. the gates of the rafah crossing opened today to peoplebut the flow the gates of the rafah crossing opened today to people, but the flow across the border was more a trickle, than a flood. over 400 people with dual nationality are thought to have crossed the border, that is a fraction of the 5,000 dual nationals thought to be currently in gaza. the foreign office says the first british nationals are among those that have made it across today. more will follow in the coming days. among those who were taken across the border were around 70 palestinian patients, some of the most seriously wounded, who have been transferred intially to a field hospital in the sinai peninsular. it's the first time people have been able to leave the besieged territory since the conflict began. the result of some intense mediation behind the scenes involving qatar. but officials in doha say things have been complicated by the bombardment in northern gaza. there were reports of another airstrike on the jabalia refugee camp, a day after an israeli killed scores of civilians in the same area. we start our covergae with this report from our international editorjeremy bowen — and again there is material that some may find upsetting. at last, some signs of hope at the rafa crossing between gaza and egypt. some foreign citizens are being allowed to leave for the first time since israel imposed its siege. convoys of aid trucks are moving into gaza, though not nearly as many as the un and aid agencies say are necessary. ambulances went in for the seriously wounded. translation: we face | many problems in gaza, the least of which were the shortage of water and electricity. the bigger problem was the bombardment. we were afraid. many families were martyred. the un said gaza civilians were being starved, traumatised and bombed to death. injabalia, where at least 120 people were killed by a big israeli air strike, they were looking for signs of life. on the other side of the border wire, israelis are still in shock over 7th october attacks. this is a kibbutz nirim directly facing gaza. for the first time, adele was back to look and to grab a few things. her old hopes of peace with her neighbours in gaza gone forever. stopping anything like this happening again is powering israel's determination to see this fight through to the end. adele showed me the place where son—in—law saved her three granddaughters, all under the age of ten. tell me what happened here. there, there is their safe room and there is where he shot the terrorists. as kibbutz nirim was under attack, hamas radio messages were intercepted and the israeli army gave us this excerpt. the fence has been fixed, israel's security has not. so there is no doubt there was a lot of complacency about the risks that hamas posed to israel and, after the war, there is going to be an inquiry, but, even now, the prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, is under a lot of pressure about his responsibility for the security lapses that led to hamas breaching the border. and, as more israeli soldiers die, that pressure will increase. this was the funeral of 20—year—old lavi lifschitz, killed in combat in gaza. israelis are behind their troops, but increasingly, they want to know how so much went wrong. jeremy bowen, bbc news, in southern israel. our gaza correspondent rushdi abualouf has spent the day at the rafah crossing on the palestinian side of the border and he sent us this update a short time ago. yeah, i saw a family with, like, bags, and they were waiting and waiting in this hall. well, out of the 545 people on the list, 316 people left. so 200 were not able to make it tonight. they published the list again and they said they would resume the opening of the crossing tomorrow and allow those 200 people. they might issue another shortlist for people because today, the first day, it was chaotic in the morning but manageable. we didn't see any sort of fighting between the people. the people came and suddenly they realised it was not open for everybody, it's just open for people on the list, and the list was sent by the egyptians, they put it on the wall and everybody should, like find their name. people on the crossing will check your passport and make sure that the name matches the list and then they crossed. i was spending all day talking to people there, people like, really, some of them were happy because they were crossing, but they're really sad at the same time because they left families behind here, and they don't know what is going to happen to them. but overall it is significant, it is significant that the crossing was opened today, not only for the citizens who are dual nationals, but for hundreds of people, patients who are waiting in this hospital to be treated outside, because the hospital is overwhelmed by the number of people with serious injuries, huge pain, people with very severe injuries, they are waiting for their turn to go and be treated in egypt, not only the dual national citizens. a lot of the serious trauma cases in the northern part of gaza were of course the fighting is most intense. it's become the fighting. our correspondentjon donnison is in jerusalem. the idf said this evening that around the gates of gaza city, do we have an idea from a press conference tonight of what the fight is like and what the next stage of it will be? . . , . and what the next stage of it will be? . ., ,, ., ., be? that was a spokesman from the israeli military _ be? that was a spokesman from the israeli military speaking _ be? that was a spokesman from the israeli military speaking earlier- israeli military speaking earlier this evening, it is difficult to get a picture of what the fighting is like from the ground, our correspondence in southern israel have heard heavy bursts of machine—gun fire the afternoon. in northern gaza. we have also seen her for several days now israeli tanks on the ground, but you know that area quite well in northern gaza, it is relatively open, small towns, villages. what the israeli spokesman said this evening it was that israeli forces have now managed to break through the outer perimeter of hamas in northern gaza, but crossing actually into those densely populated the streets in gaza city, that will be a much more complex operation. at the same time, israel has continued to pound northern gaza. we heard a figure today saying that since the start of the war they dropped more than 10,000 munitions on gaza city alone. today, again, we had more strikes recorded in the jabalia area, pictures at the scene showing a huge crater, emergency services trying to take the injured away from the scene. the ground operation, it is harder to get a sense on how that is being fought, but at the moment i think it is a relatively early stages in terms of encroaching on gaza city itself. for what we heard at the rafah crossing, what we heard at the rafah crossing, what are you hearing about british foreign nationals who have cross and those who would be called to the border in the coming days? it was seen to be suggested that it was now a process, but you have to be on the list. ., ., ., , ., , list. you have to be on the list and we have seen _ list. you have to be on the list and we have seen those _ list. you have to be on the list and we have seen those pictures - list. you have to be on the list and we have seen those pictures todayj list. you have to be on the list and i we have seen those pictures today of desperate people at the rafah crossing, swirling down through those lists looking to see if their names are on and of course this is only a tiny fraction of the population of gaza. i was actually speaking earlier this afternoon to a british government minister on a visit to israel at the moment, i asked him about how the effort to get those british nationals out, we think there are rounds of 200 of them and he was pretty cagey, to be honest. i think they are saying that it will happen in stages and we have heard this evening from the british foreign secretary james cleverly that the first british nationals had got out, but i think it is a relatively small number. i got out, but i think it is a relatively small number. i will 'ust interru -t relatively small number. i will 'ust interrupt you. fl relatively small number. i will 'ust interrupt you, i'm i relatively small number. i will 'ust interrupt you, i'm sorry, i relatively small number. i will 'ust 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significantly, but we still have a long way to go. the united states will continue to drive the humanitarian support for innocent people in gaza who need help and they do need help. we will continue to firm that israel has the right and responsibility to defend its citizens from terror and it needs to do so on a manner that is consistent with international humanitarian law. that prioritises the protection of citizens. we have all seen the devastating images from gaza. palestinian children crying out for lost parents, writing for children's names on their hands and legs to be identified if the worst happens. it is ok, kids are allowed to do that. baby crying. i don't blame it is a him or her? i don't blame her. the i don't blame it is a him or her? i don't blame her.— i don't blame it is a him or her? i don't blame her. the loss of every innocent life _ don't blame her. the loss of every innocent life is _ don't blame her. the loss of every innocent life is a _ don't blame her. the loss of every innocent life is a tragedy. - don't blame her. the loss of every innocent life is a tragedy. we - innocent life is a tragedy. we grieve for those deaths and continue to grieve for the israeli children and others who have brutally been some slaughtered by hamas terrace and also continue to have holes in our hearts by the hundreds of families of loved ones including small children and elderly grandparents including american citizens being held hostages. my administration continues to work around the clock to reunite those families. we will not give up. period. we will not give up. applause i am optimistic but then i am and obligate us. folks, now i want to thank brad for the introduction, read city was not sure what a good speaker and he could speak a lot better than i? joe biden on an economic tour in minnesota at the moment will talk about that little later in the programme but honestly referring to later in the programme but honestly referrin: ., , ~ referring to events in the middle east which _ referring to events in the middle east which is _ referring to events in the middle east which is where _ referring to events in the middle east which is where we - referring to events in the middle east which is where we want - referring to events in the middle east which is where we want to i referring to events in the middle i east which is where we want to stay the moment. live now to tanya haj—hassan, paediatric intensive care and humanitarian doctor, with msf. thank you very much for being with us. can we start with the news that we have had from msf tonight that some of your doctors have got through the rafah crossing today, we'll can you say on that? ijust we'll can you say on that? i 'ust with the clarify. i we'll can you say on that? i 'ust with the clarify. i'm i we'll can you say on that? i 'ust with the clarify. i'm not i we'll can you say on that? ijustl with the clarify. i'm not speaking on behalf of doctors without borders today, i do work for them but on this interview are not speaking on their behalf. i can confirm that 22 members of doctors without borders have successfully crossed the rafah border, but i can't comment further. could you tell us, obviously you work with them and you know them well, could you tell me what the situation is in gaza right now for those who have stayed behind? my those who have stayed behind? m relationship with those who have stayed behind? m1: relationship with the gaza strip over the last ten years has been as a teacher, not through msf, i go and train with a group of physicians from oxford university and also do work for msf and speak for their behalf on the international community on this particular issue. so what i will be referring to in the rest of this interview with you is my relationship with her colleagues in gaza who don't necessarily work for msf. i have a long—standing relationship with the medical community and the gaza strip through my training trips. share medical community and the gaza strip through my training trips.— through my training trips. are you in contact with _ through my training trips. are you in contact with them? _ through my training trips. are you in contact with them? i _ through my training trips. are you in contact with them? i am. - through my training trips. are you in contact with them? i am. part i through my training trips. are you i in contact with them? i am. part are they telling — in contact with them? i am. part are they telling you? — in contact with them? i am. part are they telling you? i _ in contact with them? i am. part are they telling you? i just _ in contact with them? i am. part are they telling you? i just want - in contact with them? i am. part are they telling you? i just want to - they telling you? i 'ust want to state that it h they telling you? i 'ust want to state that it is _ they telling you? i just want to state that it is very _ they telling you? i just want to state that it is very fall - they telling you? i just want to state that it is very fall to - they telling you? i just want to | state that it is very fall to leave a card after listening to the speech of president biden because what i am about to tell you just seem so, such about to tell you just seem so, such a shock compared to the rest of the narrative that i have been listening to waiting for my interview. this is an avalanche of human suffering that is 100% man—made. it is the worst humanitarian catastrophe i have experience in my lifetime and in my growing legally long career in humanitarian medicine as does burning through the heart of every single humanitarian that i know. i will paint a picture for you of the degree of suffering that we are seeing. people keep asking me about medical eight and hospitals in the situation in the hospitals. the entire hospital health care system collapsed almost one week ago. it was announced on tv for the whole world to see. in that week there has been indiscriminate bombardment... i don't even know if that is the right term because it is targeting health care facilities, ambulances, churches, mosques, schools, refugee camps, densely populated refugee camps. wiping out entire families in a second. entire multi—generational extended families and a second. there are almost 1000 families in the gaza strip who have had at least two members of their family and at least two members killed in the last three weeks. there are almost 4000 children who have been killed and identified excluding almost 1000 children whose bodies are still trapped under the rubble. some of them may be alive for a long period before that ultimately die under the rubble and i'm sorry if there are any young children watching this perhaps this is a good time to ask them to leave the room but i think it is important that i paint a picture particularly when i'm following a news narrative that almost dismisses this avalanche of suffering that is unprecedented in modern times. there is an acronym in the gaza strip right now i'm a paediatric intensive care doctor, see lot of suffering in my career. there is an acronym that is unique to the gaza strip and wcnsf. wounded child, no surviving family. it is not used infrequently in the last three weeks. it was coined in the last three weeks. one physician told me two days ago, a few days ago that a little girl came in wounded and she had a piece of paper in her pocket that she hated to him. he sent me a picture of the piece of paper. it had 27 names on it. she said, these are the names of my family that were with me and my home. please look for them. please look for the bod or the rubble. don't look for this one, she points to the neighbourfrom don't look for this one, she points to the neighbour from sister, don't look for this one, she points to the neighbourfrom sister, i know she's already dead. this is a ten—year—old what you little girl, wcnsf should not exist as an acronym and to follow president biden as he continues to justify and to follow president biden as he continues tojustify and and to follow president biden as he continues to justify and to warmonger all i can say is that this has to stop. it is a collective stain on our humanity, a stain on our collective humanity. it will haunt us. our collective humanity. it will haunt us— our collective humanity. it will haunt us. ., , . ., ., haunt us. you paint such a vivid and terrific picture _ haunt us. you paint such a vivid and terrific picture and _ haunt us. you paint such a vivid and terrific picture and i _ haunt us. you paint such a vivid and terrific picture and i understand - terrific picture and i understand that these are your friends who you have worked with and how difficult that must be, you are not alone and i've been hearing today from reading, testimony from the commissioner general of unwra who said the conditions of the sanitary are appalling living on very little bread and 17 of their staff members have been killed and are looking after 670,000 people in their refugee centres. is there any sign from what you are curing of a humanitarian pause or causes that could be negotiated? i am humanitarian pause or causes that could be negotiated?— could be negotiated? i am not a olitician could be negotiated? i am not a politician but _ could be negotiated? i am not a politician but the _ could be negotiated? i am not a politician but the word - could be negotiated? i am not a politician but the word pause . could be negotiated? i am not a politician but the word pause to | could be negotiated? i am not a i politician but the word pause to me makes no sense. you pause to nourish and hydrate a population before you kill them? itjust does not make any sense for me. you stop the bombardment. that is what the entire global community should be pushing for and should be insisting on. i think in leading up to my introduction i think you interviewed someone who said something very similar, someone from gaza who said something similar. the priority is not giving us a need. you need to stop the indiscriminate bombardment. so yes, what is needed is a humanitarian truce or a cease—fire, global intervention. things that were voted for by the overwhelming majority of countries on this planet. a few days ago in the general assembly of the united nations. yet they are not adhered to and are completely disregarded by the powers that be. two powers, to be specific. 1 the powers that be. two powers, to be specific— be specific. i will have to leave it there because _ be specific. i will have to leave it there because i'm _ be specific. i will have to leave it there because i'm out _ be specific. i will have to leave it there because i'm out of- be specific. i will have to leave it there because i'm out of time i be specific. i will have to leave it| there because i'm out of time but be specific. i will have to leave it l there because i'm out of time but i hear you. there because i'm out of time but i hearyou. people there because i'm out of time but i hear you. people will let her do. it is very powerful message you are giving us. thank you very much for joining us this evening on the programme. joining us this evening on the programme-— joining us this evening on the rotramme. . ~ i. ., i. programme. thank you for everyone watchin: programme. thank you for everyone watching this _ programme. thank you for everyone watching this programme _ programme. thank you for everyone watching this programme who - programme. thank you for everyone watching this programme who was l watching this programme who was standing upfor watching this programme who was standing up for humanity. we will win. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. an inquest has heard sir bobby charlton died after an accidentalfall at a care home. the england and manchester united footballing legend died aged 86 in macclesfield general hospital last month. an inquest heard he was living in the willows in knutsford — a nursing home caring for patients with dementia. the met office is warning of travel disruption, damage to buildings, and possible risk to life — as storm ciaran bears down on the uk. damaging winds are forecast in southern england, and gusts of up to 95 miles—an—hour are predicted to batter the channel islands. the severe weather warnings are in place until friday. northumbrian police say two more people have been arrested over the felling of the world—famous sycamore gap tree. located in northumberland, the tree was believed to have been about 300—years—old, but was cut down in late september. the two men — aged in their 30s — have since been released on police bail. you're live with bbc news. we saw a clear example of israel's strategy yesterday with the bombing of the jabalia refugee camp — paired with an idf ground assault. dozens were killed. israel has touted the operation as a major success, saying it wiped out a key hamas commander and destroyed a crucial network of underground tunnels in the area. but this strategy doesn't come without a cost. 15 israeli soldiers have been killed since tuesday. and according to hamas — the strike injabalia also killed seven of their hostages. a claim we clearly cannot verify at this stage. but if that is true — it highlights the urgency of negotiations to secure the release of the more than 230 hostages still being held by hamas. as israel ramps up its operations in gaza — the risk to their lives rises. let's talk to someone with extensive experience in trying to negotiate for the release of hostages from gaza. oliver mcternan. he is co—founder of the conflict mediation group — forward thinking. he was involved in the talks that led to the release of the israeli soldier gilad shalit 12 years ago. thank you for coming back onto the programme, it is good to see you. can we talk to you about the role that qatar is playing in opening the border crossing today, is it your understanding that that negotiation is on two parallel tracks, that the negotiation for the hostages and the separate negotiation for the wounded and the foreign nationals. i separate negotiation for the wounded and the foreign nationals.— and the foreign nationals. i admire qatar because _ and the foreign nationals. i admire qatar because i _ and the foreign nationals. i admire qatar because i think— and the foreign nationals. i admire qatar because i think they - and the foreign nationals. i admire qatar because i think they are - and the foreign nationals. i admire. qatar because i think they are faced with almost an impossible position. first of all i think the context in which they are trying to work, i think on both levels you have mentioned, is almost impossible. you have two very traumatised parties, publicly exchanging threats of annihilation. then you have a very complex process where there is not the normal procedure of one group being in one part, or a the normal procedure of one group being in one part, ora room, and another group nearby so that you can be an interlock or as the normal way of going about these things. see qatar having to work through a third—party. so there are all sorts complications and i see it very difficult to achieve significant objectives in the circumstances. we just heard president biden saying that the loss of innocent lives is always tragic. the question is, what is he doing about it will stop what is he doing about it will stop what is he doing to intervene in a decisive way to bring about what is essential, and cease—fire to stop the loss of innocent lives. government is also working on parallel tracks. they are beefing up the military pressure on hamas and they believe in time that will be they believe in time that will be the best way to get the hostages out. do you think that adds up, because i'm hearing from families of israelis that they do not think that is the right strategy, what you think? i is the right strategy, what you think? ., , ., think? i would entirely agree with the families _ think? i would entirely agree with the families and _ think? i would entirely agree with the families and i _ think? i would entirely agree with the families and i think _ think? i would entirely agree with the families and i think anyone i think? i would entirely agree with i the families and i think anyone who is familiar with gaza in any way will realise that it is an impossible objective. you cannot use this level of force and intrusion and at the same time, secure the lives of the innocent hostages that have been taken. what we are seeing, it's taking a massive hammer, you might say, bashing your way in and saying, don't worry i am coming to rescue you. it will not work, i am afraid and people see the loss, yet again, of more and more innocent lives. we need, first and foremost to create circumstances in which it is possible to have proper negotiations and i would say, again, repeat, repeat, repeat. iwishjoe biden could hear those words loudly and clearly. this biden could hear those words loudly and clearl . , , and clearly. this quickly, the rescue of _ and clearly. this quickly, the rescue of the _ and clearly. this quickly, the rescue of the soldier - and clearly. this quickly, the rescue of the soldier and - and clearly. this quickly, the rescue of the soldier and the j rescue of the soldier and the retrieval of four of the hostages, does that suggest to you from your experience in this that the israelis know more about where the hostages are then perhaps they are giving us? if they knew where the hostages were, i think they would go directly in an attempt to rescue them. gilad shalit was held for five years and the one thing in those five years that the is really security forces failed to identify what was the place where he was being held. 1thiiiiie place where he was being held. while that tells is an awful— place where he was being held. while that tells is an awful lot _ place where he was being held. while that tells is an awful lot about how difficult this will be. always good to talk to and thank you for coming onto the programme. we will take a short break, we will talk about the northern border on the other side of the break and what is going on in southern lebanon. more signs that things are intensifying their ahead of an important speech on friday by the secretary—general of hezbollah, stayed with us for that. hello, there. storm ciaran is set to bring some potentially damaging gusts of wind to parts of the south. here is ciaran, continuing to rapidly intensify underneath a powerful atlantic jet stream. it's this part of the storm here that's going to bring a swathe of particularly violent winds. the met office have issued a couple of amber weather warnings for parts of southern england where there will be some localized disruption. gusts of around 70 or 80 odd miles—an—hour. but the violent winds will be heading across north—west france and the channel islands, where there could be some gusts of wind over 100mph, strong enough to rip roofs off a few buildings and bring down a number of trees. but there will be parts of southern england that see winds that are kind of more typical for a normal area of low pressure and won't be too much of a problem. variable winds from this potentially dangerous storm for some, but it's this swathe of violent winds going into north—west france and the channel islands that are of particular concern. it's here where, as i say, there could be some roofs being brought down. i think quite a large number of trees will be toppled by those strong winds, particularly given that the trees are still in leaf. so some severe transport disruption and probably disruption to power supplies on the way for these areas. now, it will also be very windy for a time across parts of south—west england, the isles of scilly, cornwall, devon. later in the day we'll see some very strong winds working into kent. these areas could see some localised impacts, as well, but close to the center of the low pressure, actually, it won't be unusually windy. gusts of wind, perhaps around 40 or 50mph — a blowy day, but nothing particularly special. heading into friday, as our area of low pressure works into the north sea, it's weakening by this stage. again, quite blustery winds, but probably no impact from the winds. rather, though, we are concerned about heavy rain. eastern scotland, down into parts of eastern england, the rain for these areas could be heavy enough to bring some localised flooding back to some communities, especially given how wet the weather has been throughout october. now, beyond that into the weekend, it does stay unsettled. we've got some pretty wet weather to come across southern parts of england and wales on saturday. showers or longer spells of rain into the north and west. storm ciaran bringing some violent gusts of wind, the strongest of which bringing some severe damage to parts of the channel islands and also north—west france, but some damaging winds across parts of southern england, too. hello, i'm christian fraser. you're watching the context on bbc news. 76 injured palestinians and 320 foreign passport holders have crossed into egypt from gaza, the first people to leave