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In the gaza strip. The un says gaza is on the brink, with more than 100 trucks needed every day, to support some two million palestinians. Meanwhile, both sides continue to exchange fire. The Israeli Defence minister has told his troops they will soon see gaza from the inside. And israel now says there are 203 hostages being held in gaza higher than previously reported. In just the last few hours, the pentagon said a us navy ship on thursday shot down missiles and drones that had been fired by iran backed Houthi Rebels in yemen, possibly at israel. And tonights speech also comes as the chaos on capitol hill continues. The House Of Representatives has been without a leader for more than two weeks. Republicanjim jordan has tried and failed twice this week to win the gavel. There may be another vote on friday morning. In just a matter of minutes, President Biden is expected to make his case tonight for more aid to israel and for the ongoing war in ukraine in his oval office address. Earlier today, ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky spoke with mr biden to thank him for the us support and discuss future needs. And lets bring in our guests tonight. Khaled elgindy is the director of the middle east Institutes Program on palestine and Palestinian Israeli affairs. Sabrina siddiqui, White House Reporter for the wall streetjournal. With me is elise labott, founder of zivvy media. Great to have you all with us. Sabrina, you are covering President Bidens trip. If i can ask first, what exactly are you expecting the president to say . I what exactly are you expecting the president to say . President to say . I think this seech president to say . I think this speech is president to say . I think this speech is critical president to say . I think this speech is critical for president to say . I think this speech is critical for the speech is critical for the president , as he is seeking a significant aid package from congress, as you mentioned, north of 100 billion to cover a number of Foreign Policy challenges. Of course the most pressing in the eyes of the administration being aid to both israel and ukraine, as they each deal with their independent conflicts, and then this aid package will also cover taiwan and the us border with mexico. I think the border with mexico. I think the border piece of it being something to try and earn some republican support. It really, what the speech is also about is trying to make the case to the American Public, which has grown increasingly sceptical of us involvement in conflicts overseas, that supporting israel and continuing to support ukraine is in the countrys National Security interests, remember this is also coming at a time when the president didntjust travel to tel coming at a time when the president didnt just travel to tel aviv to make his support, the support of his administration for israel clear, but also as his administration faces a lot of pressure for its response to the crisis in gaza and the death toll when it comes to Palestinian Civilians. So really an evening to try and persuade the public as well as lawmakers in both parties on capitol hill. As lawmakers in both parties on capitol hill as lawmakers in both parties on capitol hill. And we are going to talk more about capitol hill. And we are going to talk more about that capitol hill. And we are going to talk more about that pressure, l talk more about that pressure, elise, what do you expect to see . Well, i think basically, the president is saying he has a bunch of different constituencies right now of different constituencies right now he of different constituencies right now. He certainly, he has that american now. He certainly, he has that American Public, trying to show them i two were American Public, trying to show them i two wars have a world away is important i two wars have a world away is important to the us but he also has the arab important to the us but he also has the arab world. You see these pictures the arab world. You see these pictures of the palestinian casualties, the civilians, the growing casualties, the civilians, the growing humanitarian crisis, and they growing humanitarian crisis, and they really growing humanitarian crisis, and they really think that the us is giving they really think that the us is giving israel the green light. Then you also giving israel the green light. Then you also have on capitol hill, democrats, the Progressive Wing is more democrats, the Progressive Wing is more Pro Palestinian right now, they want to more Pro Palestinian right now, they want to see more Pro Palestinian right now, they want to see a ceasefire, he is addressing them and he is also addressing them and he is also addressing republicans who have been wary of addressing republicans who have been wary of sending the aid. And he is trying wary of sending the aid. And he is trying to wary of sending the aid. And he is trying to reinforce his role as comforter trying to reinforce his role as Comforter On De Bod in chief, as he has been Comforter On De Bod in chief, as he has been called. There is a lot of anxiety has been called. There is a lot of anxiety in has been called. There is a lot of anxiety in this nation from Jewish Americans anxiety in this nation from Jewish Americans who are facing a lot of anti semitic attacks, pro hamas rallies anti semitic attacks, pro hamas rallies across the country, Muslim Americans rallies across the country, Muslim Americans who are feeling a lot of islamophobia, there was a devastating murder of a six year old muslim devastating murder of a six year old Muslim American boy by his landlord because Muslim American boy by his landlord because the landlord was seeing all this stuft because the landlord was seeing all this stuff on tv. Sol because the landlord was seeing all this stuff on tv. So i think hes going this stuff on tv. So i think hes going to this stuff on tv. So i think hes going to talk to this nation, yes, there going to talk to this nation, yes, there is going to talk to this nation, yes, there is a going to talk to this nation, yes, there is a lot of shock in israel, then there is a lot of shock in israel, then this there is a lot of shock in israel, then this is, there is a lot of shock in israel, then this is, and weve been comparing this to a 9 11 moment not ust comparing this to a 9 11 moment not just for comparing this to a 9 11 moment not just for israel but i think this is a 9 11 just for israel but i think this is a 9 11 bummer for the world has been shocked a 9 11 bummer for the world has been shocked so a 9 11 bummer for the world has been shocked so i a 9 11 bummer for the world has been shocked so i think he will speak to that shocked so i think he will speak to that shocked so i think he will speak to that a shocked so i think he will speak to that. A 9 11 shocked so i think he will speak to that. A 9 11 moment for the world that. A 9 11 moment for the world it that. A 9 11 moment for the world. It goes back to his original cornerstone of his Foreign Policy, which cornerstone of his Foreign Policy, which is cornerstone of his Foreign Policy, which is Democracy Versus Autocracy in russia which is Democracy Versus Autocracy in russia hut which is Democracy Versus Autocracy in russia but also defeating terrorists wherever they are. So he has a terrorists wherever they are. So he has a lot terrorists wherever they are. So he has a lot of terrorists wherever they are. So he has a lot of constituencies here and its good has a lot of constituencies here and its good to has a lot of constituencies here and its good to be very complex for him to weave its good to be very complex for him to weave att its good to be very complex for him to weave all these narratives together. Stay with israel, stay with the together. Stay with israel, stay with the United States, found this at a time with the United States, found this at a time when the economy is bad. He has at a time when the economy is bad. He has a at a time when the economy is bad. He has a lot at a time when the economy is bad. He has a lot of work. He has a lot of work. Want to bring in one of the he has a lot of work. Want to bring in one of the voices he has a lot of work. Want to bring in one of the voices we he has a lot of work. Want to bring in one of the voices we have he has a lot of work. Want to bring in one of the voices we have who i he has a lot of work. Want to bring l in one of the voices we have who has been particularly critical of the president. What would you like to see from the president in his address . ,. , see from the president in his address . See from the president in his address . ,. ,. ,. , address . Yes, fori address that, the previous address . Yes, fori address that, the previous guest address . 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Israel has i think everyone sees it as a green light. Israel has essentially i think everyone sees it as a green light. Israel has essentially a light. Israel has essentially a blank light. Israel has essentially a blank cheque light. Israel has essentially a blank cheque to light. Israel has essentially a blank cheque to carry light. Israel has essentially a blank cheque to carry out. Light. Israel has essentially a| blank cheque to carry out the light. Israel has essentially a blank cheque to carry out the war in whichever blank cheque to carry out the war in whichever Wav Blank Cheque to carry out the war in whichever way it blank cheque to carry out the war in whichever way it pleases. Blank cheque to carry out the war in whichever way it pleases. Even blank cheque to carry out the war in whichever way it pleases. Even to l whichever way it pleases. Even to the extent whichever way it pleases. Even to the extent of whichever way it pleases. Even to the extent of cutting whichever way it pleases. Even to the extent of cutting off whichever way it pleases. Even to the extent of cutting off all whichever way it pleases. Even to| the extent of cutting off all water, food, the extent of cutting off all water, food, medicine, the extent of cutting off all water, food, medicine, fuel the extent of cutting off all water, food, medicine, fuelto the extent of cutting off all water, food, medicine, fuel to an the extent of cutting off all water, food, medicine, fuel to an entire i food, medicine, fuel to an entire population food, medicine, fuel to an entire population of food, medicine, fuel to an entire population of 2. 2 food, medicine, fuel to an entire population of 2. 2 million food, medicine, fuel to an entirej population of 2. 2 Million People. That in population of 2. 2 Million People. That in the, population of 2. 2 Million People. That in the, in population of 2. 2 Million People. 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And thats clearly what the russian context is a war crime. And thats clearly what it the russian context is a war crime. And thats clearly what it is the russian context is a war crime. 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Empathise with another group of. Human beings who are suffering. I ust human beings who are suffering. Just wanted to give elise a human beings who are suffering. just wanted to give elise a chance to respond, i think you wanted to respond to his comments . It is true that not all respond to his comments . It is true that not all of respond to his comments . It is true that not all of the respond to his comments . It is true that not all of the rallies respond to his comments . It is true that not all of the rallies were that not all of the rallies were pro hamas are legitimately there is a lot of pro hamas are legitimately there is a lot of concern about the palestinians. I think there has been. Palestinians. I think there has been. In palestinians. I think there has been, in this country, notjust from the left been, in this country, notjust from the left but been, in this country, notjust from the left but also from all corners of america, people are identifying with the of america, people are identifying with the palestinian cause. There has been with the palestinian cause. There has been a with the palestinian cause. There has been a growing sense of support for the has been a growing sense of support for the palestinians and the need to avoid for the palestinians and the need to avoid civilian casualties, but i will say avoid civilian casualties, but i will say that there have been rallies will say that there have been rallies where they are saying, hamas did a good rallies where they are saying, hamas did a good thing. There was one, cant did a good thing. 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It has been a lot of Anti Semitism, they are saving a lot of Anti Semitism, they are saying that this was an eye for an eye and saying that this was an eye for an eye and i saying that this was an eye for an eye and i think we can both agree that when eye and i think we can both agree that when we see, whether it is the pictures that when we see, whether it is the pictures of that when we see, whether it is the pictures of the israeli children of the israelis that have been murdered or the the israelis that have been murdered or the panel the israelis that have been murdered orthe panel but the israelis that have been murdered or the panel but the palestinians that are or the panel but the palestinians that are the or the panel but the palestinians that are the victims of israeli air strikes that are the victims of israeli air strikes in that are the victims of israeli air strikes in this herbal carnage thats strikes in this herbal carnage thats going on in gaza, i think all loss of thats going on in gaza, i think all loss of life thats going on in gaza, i think all loss of life is really terrible. 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Weve been talking about what we expect to see from President Biden so i ask you same question. I see from President Biden so i ask you same question. See from President Biden so i ask you same question. I think its good to be an effort you same question. I think its good to be an effort to you same question. I think its good to be an effort to emphasise you same question. I think its good to be an effort to emphasise the to be an effort to emphasise the need to have us involvement in weather that is with respect to support for israel or more specifically on the funding piece, think that will be interesting. There have been several analyses of the degree to which the president will link funding for ukraine with funding for whats happening in the middle east and that takes a topic where there probably is a pretty strong consensus in terms of the need for american involvement. It puts together with one where i would say the majority both parties probably still support ukraine but its a bit of a closer call. So the politics of the president putting them together is interesting. Sabrina, if i can bring you back in, you have been writing about the disappointment among muslims, progressives and Arab Americans in the us at the Biden Administrations response at not pushing Israel War On Civilians in gaza. How difficult a line do you think this has been to walk for the administration and for the president as he was travelling to israel . 5 the president as he was travelling to israel . ,. ,. , the president as he was travelling to israel . ,. ,. ,. ,. To israel . Is certainly a Balancing Act but i to israel . Is certainly a Balancing Act but | think to israel . Is certainly a Balancing Act but | think this to israel . Is certainly a Balancingj Act but i think this administration and the president have been very clear that they stand squarely with israel in this conflict, and that has frustrated and angry Muslim Americans, Arab Americans and progressives outside and inside the administration because when we talk about the humanitarian crisis, when the president was in tel aviv it was the president was in tel aviv it was the first time he clearly spoke to the first time he clearly spoke to the suffering of the Palestinian People in gaza, the loss of civilian life rather than just placing the blame on hamas. Actually publicly urging israel to show restraint, evenif urging israel to show restraint, even if he didnt use those words, by recalling their reaction to 9 11 has suggested that the us did overreact and essentially sent to his room to allow itself to be consumed by rage. But a lot of people think that was too little too late because when he delivered those remarks, the death toll in gaza was already in their thousands, more than 1000 children had already been killed in gaza, 600,000 people have already fled their homes, where the bulk of the bombardment has been and of course you have this total siege where food, water, electricity and critical medical supplies have been cut off. The United Nations and humanitarian groups on the ground have said the total siege by the Israeli Government has brought gaza and its Health Care System to the brink of collapse. So i think there was an expectation the president would speak more clearly to that. Now his administration is putting more emphasis on the humanitarian crisis in gaza. 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I also spoke with the president of the palestinian i the president of the Palestinian Authority the president of the Palestinian Authority and the president of the Palestinian Authority and reiterated the president of the Palestinian Authority and reiterated that. The president of the palestinian| authority and reiterated that the United Authority and reiterated that the United States authority and reiterated that the United States remains authority and reiterated that the i United States remains committed authority and reiterated that the United States remains committed to the right United States remains committed to the right of United States remains committed to the right of the United States remains committed to the right of the palestinian United States remains committed to the right of the Palestinian People. The right of the Palestinian People to dignity the right of the Palestinian People to dignity and the right of the Palestinian People to dignity and self determination. The actions to dignity and self determination. The actions of to dignity and self determination. The actions of hamas to dignity and self determination. The actions of hamas do to dignity and self determination. The actions of hamas do not to dignity and self determination. The actions of hamas do not take i the actions of hamas do not take that right the actions of hamas do not take that right away the actions of hamas do not take that right away i the actions of hamas do not take that right away. I am the actions of hamas do not take i that right away. I am heartbroken the actions of hamas do not take i that right away. I am heartbroken by the tragic that right away. I am heartbroken by the tragic toss that right away. I am heartbroken by the tragic loss of that right away. I am heartbroken by the tragic loss of palestinian that right away. I am heartbroken by the tragic loss of palestinian life the Tragic Loss Of Palestinian Life Including the Tragic Loss Of Palestinian Life Including the the Tragic Loss Of Palestinian Life Including the explosion the Tragic Loss Of Palestinian Life Including the explosion at the Tragic Loss Of Palestinian Life Including the explosion at the i including the explosion at the hospital including the explosion at the hospital in including the explosion at the hospital in gaza including the explosion at the hospital in gaza which including the explosion at the hospital in gaza which was. Including the explosion at the | hospital in gaza which was not including the explosion at the hospital in gaza which was not born done hospital in gaza which was not born done By Hospital In Gaza which was not born done try the hospital in gaza which was not born done by the israelis. Hospital in gaza which was not born done by the israelis. We hospital in gaza which was not born done by the israelis. 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May god bless you fellow americans, thank you for your time. May god bless you all, fellow americans, thank you for your time. May god bless you all, may i fellow americans, thank you for your. Time. May god bless you all, may god protect time. May god bless you all, may god protect our time. May god bless you all, may god protect our troops. All right can you have been watching a prime time address there from president joe biden, speaking about the need to increase funding for israel and the ukraine as well, drawing a broad arc there. I want to bring our guests back in we have been discussing this evening. I want to go right to lonnie chan. I know you have to head out injust to go right to lonnie chan. I know you have to head out in just a few minutes ijust you have to head out in just a few minutes i just want to quickly get your reaction on the president s address. I your reaction on the president s address. ~. , your reaction on the president s address. ,. ,. Address. I think what we predicted from the president , address. I think what we predicted from the president , trying address. I think what we predicted from the president , trying to address. I think what we predicted from the president , trying to put l from the president , trying to put together the assistant certainly for israel and ukraine. What wasnt mentioned is that there is several billion dollars in funding for the southern border as well as a for taiwan, so kind of a smorgasbord approach to getting the funding across the finish line. It would be across the finish line. It would be a fine idea were it not for the fact there is no speaker of the house and no possibility this passes the house, unless the republicans in the house, unless the republicans in the house can get their act together. So i think there are some challenges ahead certainly for the concept here, but i think the president s notion is to try and pin things that are explicitly more popular with the American People, like the border funding, like funding for israel, trying to pin that with the things that frankly are a little less popular, and im namely talking about funding for ukraine, which has particularly gone south with republicans. So i think the president is doing what he needs to do to actually get the money across the finish line. The main sort of rate limiting factor is political dysfunction and i dont see that changing anytime soon. I dysfunction and i dont see that changing anytime soon. Dysfunction and i dont see that changing anytime soon. I want to thank ou changing anytime soon. I want to thank you so changing anytime soon. I want to thank you so much changing anytime soon. I want to thank you so much for changing anytime soon. I want to thank you so much for that changing anytime soon. I want to i thank you so much for that analysis. They know we have to let you go. Great to have your on bbc news tonight. I am going to come over to a lease because we were speaking right before the president started his speech and i cut you off so i want to give you the chance to complete your thoughts, on the president s address and what he had to say. He president s address and what he had to sa. ,. President s address and what he had tosa. ,. ,. To say. He had this Twofold Mission to say. He had this Twofold Mission to talk about to say. He had this Twofold Mission to talk about ukraine. To say. He had this Twofold Mission to talk about ukraine. We to say. He had this Twofold Mission to talk about ukraine. We are to say. He had this Twofold Mission l to talk about ukraine. We are coming on two to talk about ukraine. We are coming on two years to talk about ukraine. We are coming on two years of that war, and so i think on two years of that war, and so i think when on two years of that war, and so i think when the american saw these horrible think when the american saw these horrible pictures of ukrainians being horrible pictures of ukrainians being killed, being homeless, refugees, there is a lot of empathy for the refugees, there is a lot of empathy for the ukrainians, and refugees, there is a lot of empathy forthe ukrainians, and there refugees, there is a lot of empathy for the ukrainians, and there was a lot of for the ukrainians, and there was a lot of support for President Biden, and this lot of support for President Biden, and this is lot of support for President Biden, and this is not his first speech on ukraine~ and this is not his first speech on ukraine. And i think that has tapered ukraine. And i think that has tapered off, notjust from congress but from tapered off, notjust from congress but from the American Public. There is understanding that russia is bad, we have is understanding that russia is bad, we have to is understanding that russia is bad, we have to fight, but, like, most americans we have to fight, but, like, most americans arent that clear on what the responsibilities of a nato country the responsibilities of a nato country hour, and so i think that has tapered off, whereas what has happened has tapered off, whereas what has happened in israel and what is happening in gaza right now with this humanitarian catastrophe, i think this humanitarian catastrophe, i think that this humanitarian catastrophe, i think that struck much more of a cord, think that struck much more of a cord. Not think that struck much more of a cord, not only because it is more recent cord, not only because it is more recent but cord, not only because it is more recent but it cord, not only because it is more recent but it is a much more visceral recent but it is a much more visceral connection between the us and israel visceral connection between the us and israel and the palestinians, and the issue and israel and the palestinians, and the issue is and israel and the palestinians, and the issue isjust so important. And when the issue isjust so important. And when he the issue isjust so important. And when he talks about, like we were talking when he talks about, like we were talking earlier, he kind of weaved that connection and that visceral connection to what is going on in this country, whether it is islamophobia, whether it is Anti Semitism, and trying to bring the nation Anti Semitism, and trying to bring the nation together. I think it wasnt the nation together. I think it wasnt really a seamless speech. I think wasnt really a seamless speech. I think he wasnt really a seamless speech. I think he had a couple of different points think he had a couple of different points that he made, but i think one of the points that he made, but i think one of the things that he said, which was really of the things that he said, which was really important, was we cant let petty was really important, was we cant let petty partisan politics get in the way let petty partisan politics get in the way of the responsibilities of a great the way of the responsibilities of a great nation, and i think that is going great nation, and i think that is going to great nation, and i think that is going to what lonnie said about the dysfunction. But i do think the promise dysfunction. 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They actually care about the damage bein they actually care about the damage being done they actually care about the damage being done to they actually care about the damage being done to civilian they actually care about the damage being done to civilian lives. They actually care about the damage being done to civilian lives. [ being done to civilian lives. Definitely hear you at the being done to civilian lives. Definitely hear you at the least being done to civilian lives. Definitely hear you at the least you want to comment on that, ijust definitely hear you at the least you want to comment on that, i just want to listen very quickly to a clip we have from what the president is delivered in those remarks. He was talking about hamass attacks on israel, the she married crisis in israel. The humanitarian crisis in gaza. I israel. The humanitarian crisis in gaza. Israel. The humanitarian crisis in gaza. I also spoke with president crisis in gaza. I also spoke with president abbas crisis in gaza. I also spoke with president abbas and crisis in gaza. I also spoke with president abbas and reiterated i crisis in gaza. I also spoke with president abbas and reiterated that the United States remains allied to the United States remains allied to the palestinians right to dignity. The actions of hamas do not take that right away, like so many others, i am that right away, like so many others, lam heartbroken that right away, like so many others, i am heartbroken by the tragic loss of palestinian life, including the explosion at the hospital in gaza, which was not done by the israelis. We mourn every innocent life lost. We cant ignore the humanity of innocent palestinians, who only want to live in peace and have an opportunity. So, alys, are you comment on this, because we had the other guest saying what the president had to say was the bare minimum given the tremendous loss of life we are seeing on palestinians in gaza, what did you think of that . It is seeing on palestinians in gaza, what did you think of that . Did you think of that . It is clearly not enough. Did you think of that . It is clearly not enough, and did you think of that . It is clearly not enough, and certainly did you think of that . It is clearly not enough, and certainly not. Did you think of that . It is clearly not enough, and certainly not enough for the not enough, and certainly not enough for the arab not enough, and certainly not enough for the arab world and the people that are for the arab world and the people that are worried about the palestinians. Forthe israelis, i think palestinians. Forthe israelis, i think it palestinians. Forthe israelis, i think it needs to be much tougher. I will say think it needs to be much tougher. I will say i think it needs to be much tougher. I will say i think part of the reason that President Biden went there as not that President Biden went there as hot to that President Biden went there as not to show support for israel, but again not to show support for israel, but again to not to show support for israel, but again to hug them so close that he has that again to hug them so close that he has that leverage to say to them as they are has that leverage to say to them as they are undertaking this, be careful. They are undertaking this, be careful, dont act out of rain each. What careful, dont act out of rain each. What is careful, dont act out of rain each. What is your careful, dont act out of rain each. What is your strategy . Think twice. Maybe what is your strategy . Think twice. Maybe you what is your strategy . Think twice. Maybe you dont want to go in. And i think maybe you dont want to go in. And i think that maybe you dont want to go in. And i think that does buy him a little bit of credibility. As kyle said, the israetis of credibility. As kyle said, the israelis are full of sorrow and the rage israelis are full of sorrow and the rage right israelis are full of sorrow and the rage right and so the truth is they are not rage right and so the truth is they are not going to listen to anybody ii l ht are not going to listen to anybody right now. Are not going to listen to anybody right now, but i do think you are going right now, but i do think you are going to right now, but i do think you are going to see the language. It is much going to see the language. It is much more candid and private, believe much more candid and private, believe me, from what ive heard from believe me, from what ive heard from my believe me, from what ive heard from my sources, but i do think, you know, from my sources, but i do think, you know. I from my sources, but i do think, you know. Ithink from my sources, but i do think, you know, i think the president wants to ive know, i think the president wants to give himself a little bit of room. Yes, give himself a little bit of room. Yes. There give himself a little bit of room. Yes. There is give himself a little bit of room. Yes, there is the argument that you dont yes, there is the argument that you dont want yes, there is the argument that you dont want to have to see him ramp it up. Dont want to have to see him ramp it up, because that means the situation it up, because that means the situation on the ground is going to et situation on the ground is going to get better, but if they are not going get better, but if they are not going to get better, but if they are not going to listen to him right now and he is going to listen to him right now and he is building up this credibility, there he is building up this credibility, there is he is building up this credibility, there is an he is building up this credibility, there is an argument to be made by some there is an argument to be made by some of there is an argument to be made by some of his there is an argument to be made by some of his aides that you want to ive some of his aides that you want to give him some of his aides that you want to give him some room to kind of ramp it upand give him some room to kind of ramp it up and really, you know, if he sees it up and really, you know, if he sees that it up and really, you know, if he sees that this is going too far, make sees that this is going too far, make sure sees that this is going too far, make sure the aid gets in, make surem make sure the aid gets in, make surem and make sure the aid gets in, make surem and i make sure the aid gets in, make sure. 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So we have been speaking with you alys solution. Interesting. So we have been speaking with you alys and | solution. Interesting. So we have| been speaking with you alys and i want to bring in our third guest, michael sane, who is the managing director at the washington institute, michael, thank you so much forjoining us and jumping into this conversation with us. I will just ask you first of all for your thoughts on the president does make remarks tonight. Remarks tonight. Well, i think the messaues remarks tonight. Well, i think the messages were remarks tonight. Well, i think the messages were quite remarks tonight. Well, i think the messages were quite similar remarks tonight. Well, i think the messages were quite similar to i remarks tonight. Well, i think the l messages were quite similar to the messages were quite similar to the message is the president has been articulating since the october seven attack, and it is very strong support obviously for israels right to self defence. The idea that the us has israels back and wont allow it to stand alone against the terrorist attacks perpetrated against it. Also a message however for the palestinians, a recognition that palestinians are not hamas, hamas is not palestinians, and the us expects israel to respect the laws of armed conflict, as a response to the hamas terrorist attack, but it seemed to me the purpose of this speech now was actually to appeal to americans, the appealfor actually to appeal to americans, the appeal for continued Financial Support to both israel and ukraine, as the white house sends forward to caress a bill to do just that, something that has been controversial in the case of ukraine but is far less controversial in the case of israel, sort of laying out why it is in the us interest to do. It is notjust charity, notjust generosity but also in our own interest. , generosity but also in our own interest. ,. , ,. , interest. Yes, he did directly speak to the americans, interest. Yes, he did directly speak to the americans, he interest. Yes, he did directly speak to the americans, he said interest. 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I think it is a link that is powerfully understood in the United States, that these are two states that find themselves victims of really brutal aggression, unprovoked aggression from the point of view i think of most americans, and the United States really needs to stand with these partners, lest those committing the aggression, hamas backed by iran in one case, russia and the other case, feel emboldened to continue and to target others. But i think there is also a message there forever for americans, which i think is important. The idea that these hatreds as they manifest in our own country, Anti Semitism, islamophobia, are unacceptable and in fact we are a country of all of our citizens, and jews alike. It in fact we are a country of all of our citizens, and jews alike. It was interesting our citizens, and jews alike. It was interesting that our citizens, and jews alike. It was interesting that he our citizens, and jews alike. It was interesting that he netted our citizens, and jews alike. It was interesting that he netted many i interesting that he netted many Muslim Americans are perhaps saying, here we go again. He used those words particularly to refer to how Muslim Americans might be feeling now as they did in the wake of 9 11, as they face islamophobia. We will bring our other guests into discussion but i want to just play one clip that we have right now again of the president does make remarks, where he was trying to sell to the American People by aid to israel and ukraine is so important. I know these conflicts can seem faraway and it is natural to ask why does this matter to america. Let me show you why making sure israel and ukraine succeed is vital for american National Security. History taught us that when terrorists do not pay a price for their terror, when dictators do not pay a price for their aggression they cause more chaos and death and more destruction. They keep going and the cost and the threat to america and the world keep rising. So if we do not stop putins appetite for power and control in ukraine he will not limit himself to just the ukraine. So that was the message from the president on why aid to israel and ukraine are so important. I throw that to you now, you are saying you do not think these are similar wars or similar conflict that can be linked together but, still, do you think that message from the president will be a convincing one to americans . I president will be a convincing one to americans . President will be a convincing one to americans . I think it is less and less convincing to americans . I think it is less and less convincing to to americans . I think it is less and less convincing to a to americans . I think it is less and less convincing to a growing to americans . I think it is less and i less convincing to a growing number of americans, certainly among democrats and people who identify on the liberal end of the spectrum. I dont think people are quite buying that framing any longer i think the reality is coming through and i will differ with michael here, the notion that this was unprovoked, i think, really needs to be challenged because we are talking, again, israel is not an occupied country by some great big neighbouring power. Israel is the occupying power. In the last ten months before this horrific attack by hamas, 330 palestinians had been killed in the last ten months, the first ten months of this year, the first nine months of this year, the first nine months of this year. That is more than the total number of israelis killed in the previous 15 years including both soldiers and civilians. So Israeli Occupation is violence, it is structural violence and it cannot only be sustained through repression. And the notion that somehow israel is just minding its own business and then it was attacked. Lets give michael the chance to respond to that because you were responding to his comments about the unprovoked attack. The roblem about the unprovoked attack. The problem with this narrative which one hears problem with this narrative which one hears a bit is that israel left the gaza one hears a bit is that israel left the gaza strip in 2005, something that went the gaza strip in 2005, something that went Prime Minister shah on didit it that went Prime Minister shah on didit it was controversial. The gaza strip had didit it was controversial. The gaza strip had no didit it was controversial. The gaza strip had no soldiers, no settlers and where strip had no soldiers, no settlers and where the Israeli Government of benjamin and where the Israeli Government of Benjamin Netanyahu was trying to pursue Benjamin Netanyahu was trying to pursue a Benjamin Netanyahu was trying to pursue a policy of pragmatic Economic Engagement. 17,000 palestinian workers going from gaza to israel palestinian workers going from gaza to israel every day, there was talk about to israel every day, there was talk about going onto 30,000 and the idea was that about going onto 30,000 and the idea was that helping to provide some prosperity for gaza would bring peace prosperity for gaza would bring peace and i think that is part of what peace and i think that is part of what hamas has destroyed here. That idea that what hamas has destroyed here. 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I wouldnt rule out that that could still happen and, frankly, i could still happen and, frankly, those states that have normalised with israel like the uae and bahrain or saudi arabia which was in the process of normalising with israel perhaps may have a greater role in the ending of this than those states have had in the past. On the Israeli Palestinian conflict i will say that one thing to remember is that the George W Bush administration and the obama administration, it is not as though there was a lack of desire to advance this. But if you look at the support for the two state solution within the region itself among israelis and palestinians alike, they had grown disillusioned. You have a departure of the palestinian Prime Minister who the us worked closely within 2013 so some us policy motivated by opportunity. The Trump Administration and the Biden Administration were taking the opportunities that were in front of them and sometimes even for a country like the United States which is very powerful, you cannot necessarily create opportunities which are not there. Sol necessarily create opportunities which are not there. So i think you can be critical and say we could have pushed for it more here and there but so much a Foreign Policy is taking advantage or taking up the opportunities which are there rather than creating them out of whole cloth. It than creating them out of whole cloth. Than creating them out of whole cloth. ,. ,. , cloth. It is an interesting point and i cloth. It is an interesting point and i want cloth. It is an interesting point and i want to cloth. It is an interesting point and i want to bring cloth. It is an interesting point and i want to bring another cloth. It is an interesting point i and i want to bring another guest into our discussion now, the former congresswoman stephanie murphy, a democrat from the state of florida who isjoining us. Congresswoman it is great to have you back here on bbc news. We have been discussing and following the president s remarks tonight on asking for more aid for israel and ukraine and for taiwan on the border. So could i get your thoughts on what you had the president say. I your thoughts on what you had the president say president say. I thought he was t in to president say. I thought he was trying to make president say. I thought he was trying to make the president say. I thought he was trying to make the case president say. I thought he was trying to make the case to president say. I thought he was trying to make the case to the l trying to make the case to the american trying to make the case to the American People for why we should be concerned American People for why we should be concerned about these conflicts and why we concerned about these conflicts and why we need to spend us taxpayer dollars why we need to spend us taxpayer dollars on why we need to spend us taxpayer dollars on it and he spoke about it in the dollars on it and he spoke about it in the broader context of defending democracy. He said while hamas and russia democracy. He said while hamas and russia are democracy. He said while hamas and russia are very different, what is a terrorist russia are very different, what is a terrorist organisation one as a nationstate, they are both entities who were nationstate, they are both entities who were trying to destroy democracy. He couched the National Funding democracy. He couched the National Funding in democracy. He couched the National Funding in the context of making America Funding in the context of making america safer. Trying to really help people america safer. Trying to really help people at america safer. Trying to really help people at home understand why this is important. These places feel and disconnected to American Life and so he is really disconnected to American Life and so he is really trying to make that case he is really trying to make that case he he is really trying to make that case. He also mentioned that the money case. He also mentioned that the money that goes to, say, ukraine funding money that goes to, say, ukraine funding is money that goes to, say, ukraine funding is actually backfilling us military funding is actually backfilling us military capabilities. And so what he should military capabilities. And so what he should have put a final point on is that he should have put a final point on is that most he should have put a final point on is that most of that is actually spent is that most of that is actually spent in is that most of that is actually spent in the United States. We send them spent in the United States. We send them our spent in the United States. We send them our existing military equipment and we them our existing military equipment and we backfilling it with the money that congress appropriates. And that congress appropriates. Sixth. Congresswoman i that congress appropriates. fific congresswoman ijust want that congress appropriates. Eic congresswoman ijust want to congresswoman i just want to follow up and ask about democrats in here because they have, within congress and outside congress, been split over the israel hamas war. How do you think they will view these remarks from the president . These slit is remarks from the president . These split is less remarks from the president . These split is less pervasive remarks from the president . These split is less pervasive than remarks from the president . These split is less pervasive than what remarks from the president . These split is less pervasive than what is i split is less pervasive than what is often reported. I think the split is less than reported. It has 99 of the senators backing reported. It has 99 of the senators backing it~ reported. It has 99 of the senators backing it. The reported. It has 99 of the senators backin it. ,. ,. , backing it. The resolution in the house that backing it. The resolution in the house that supports backing it. The resolution in the house that supports israel backing it. The resolution in the house that supports israel has i backing it. The resolution in the house that supports israel has 9096 house that supports israel has 90 of the house supporting it. And so, yes, there are some divisions within the Democratic Party but they are not nearly as large as they are being portrayed, and i think the president tried to address that, and said, you know, of course we want all innocent lives that are lost we mourn all innocent lives lost but we mourn all innocent lives lost but we must stand by our israeli allies. And do you think that is a message thatis and do you think that is a message that is well received there in florida for example among your former constituents . I florida for example among your former constituents . Former constituents . I think in florida for former constituents . I think in florida for the former constituents . I think in florida for the broad former constituents . I think in florida for the broad swathe i former constituents . I think in j florida for the broad swathe of florida for the broad swathe of florida it is well received. Thank ou for florida it is well received. Thank you for those florida it is well received. Thank you for those comments. Florida it is well received. Thank you for those comments. I florida it is well received. Thank you for those comments. I just i florida it is well received. Thank you for those comments. I just want you for those comments. Ijust want to bring alys into the discussion and to comment on what we heard from the congresswoman, these were points that the president was making particularly to address the people like the people in florida, do you have the sense that this is a message that will be well received . I dont think, my personal opinion is idont think, my personal opinion is that i dont think, my personal opinion is that a i dont think, my personal opinion is that a lot i dont think, my personal opinion is that a lot of these narratives, especially is that a lot of these narratives, especially in this country, a lot of narratives especially in this country, a lot of narratives are really dug in, just like the narratives are really dug in, just like the narratives on israel are really like the narratives on israel are really dug like the narratives on israel are really dug in. We have seen over the last couple really dug in. We have seen over the last couple of days for that horrible last couple of days for that horrible bombing at the hospital in gaza. Horrible bombing at the hospital in gaza. And horrible bombing at the hospital in gaza, and then the israelis came out gaza, and then the israelis came out first gaza, and then the israelis came out. First everybody was blaming the israelis. Out. First everybody was blaming the israelis, then the israelis came out and said israelis, then the israelis came out and said it israelis, then the israelis came out and said it wasnt us, it was a palestinian and said it wasnt us, it was a palestinianjihad. The die was cast. Almost palestinianjihad. The die was cast. Almost the palestinianjihad. The die was cast. Almost the perception is the reality. Almost the perception is the reality, and so i think that peoples reality, and so i think that peoples opinions are so dug in, and that is peoples opinions are so dug in, and that is why peoples opinions are so dug in, and that is why i peoples opinions are so dug in, and that is why i go back to what President Biden said. We cant let petty President Biden said. We cant let petty partisan politics get in the way of petty partisan politics get in the way of the responsibilities of a great way of the responsibilities of a great nation. I dont think anyone has my great nation. I dont think anyone has my mind will be changed on ukraine has my mind will be changed on ukraine. Unfortunately i think it would ukraine. Unfortunately i think it would take a horrible attack on ukraine would take a horrible attack on ukraine or would take a horrible attack on ukraine or something really bad to happen ukraine or something really bad to happen for ukraine or something really bad to happen for the American Public, the people happen for the American Public, the people that are against the aide to turn around and now say oh, i really change turn around and now say oh, i really change my turn around and now say oh, i really change my mind, we need to get ukraine change my mind, we need to get ukraine that aid. I think the majority ukraine that aid. I think the majority of people in this country do support ukraine. I think there is a little do support ukraine. I think there is a little bit do support ukraine. I think there is a little bit of a kind of war fatigue. A little bit of a kind of war fatigue, and now again and a lot of anxiety fatigue, and now again and a lot of anxiety in fatigue, and now again and a lot of anxiety in this country, especially after anxiety in this country, especially after what anxiety in this country, especially after what happened with israel. You have two after what happened with israel. You have two wars that are threatening to expand have two wars that are threatening to expand across the region, oil prices. To expand across the region, oil prices, food prices, economy is bad. Now there prices, food prices, economy is bad. Now there is prices, food prices, economy is bad. Now there is the threat, today the us issued now there is the threat, today the us issued a worldwide caution for americans us issued a worldwide caution for americans with what is going on in israel americans with what is going on in israel they americans with what is going on in israel. They are pulling their people israel. They are pulling their people out of embassies. There is a lot of people out of embassies. There is a lot of anxiety in this country. Now americans lot of anxiety in this country. Now americans are fighting one another based americans are fighting one another based on americans are fighting one another based on ideology, and so i dont think based on ideology, and so i dont think he based on ideology, and so i dont think he will change any minds. Maybe think he will change any minds. Maybe he think he will change any minds. Maybe he changed a few congressmens mines. Maybe he changed a few congressmens mines. And maybe he changed a few congressmens mines, and they need to get this aid to israel mines, and they need to get this aid to israel and mines, and they need to get this aid to israel and the kind of blunt it altogether, so i think that aid will probably altogether, so i think that aid will probably get through, mostly because it is tied probably get through, mostly because it is tied to probably get through, mostly because it is tied to the israel aid though. Do you it is tied to the israel aid though. Do you agree there is a sense of anxiety among the American Public and people are really dug in . Yes. And people are really dug in . Yes, obviously the and people are really dug in . Yes, obviously the country and people are really dug in . Yes, obviously the country is and people are really dug in . Fee obviously the country is polarised, and in particular the two parties are polarised on this issue. Israel and palestine have become, for better or worse, and palestine have become, for better orworse, part and palestine have become, for better or worse, part of the culture wars, but if a kurd, there are a couple of things i want to respond to on this question of the hospital. Everyone, the president of course mentioned, that israel didnt do it, he felt confident in that. 2a hours earlier he had said we are going to look into it. It is highly unlikely that his intelligence people have decided who is responsible for that attack in any conclusive way. I and probably many other people here im sure have looked at the footage and the various evidence presented by both sides, as it were, and it is by no means conclusive. I think, if anything, thejury is no means conclusive. I think, if anything, the jury is still out, but i think we cant rule out the possibility that this was in fact an israeli air strike. It wouldnt be the first time that israeli have hit hospitals. Weve seen that in for example. So i think everyonejust sort of. You know, we cant take any sides word at face value. We have to be very, very sceptical, particularly in moments of war. But if i could also just comment on this question of the tying that hamas and russia, what they have in common is this trying to destroy democracy. The president talked about learning the lessons from 9 11, and i think like that is an example of not learning the lessons, because that mantra sounds a lot like they hate us because we are free. I think there is a real danger of deluding ourselves into thinking that this is really about democracy, that hamas is attacking democracy, and thats what the Israeli Palestinian conflict is all about. We need to be able to distinguish spin from reality michael, what is your thought on that . Do you think we are wrong and how weve been characterising, rather the president has been characterising this conflict . No, idont has been characterising this conflict . No, i dont think so, i think the president s characterisation was excellent except you can go much further with hamas. I think they do hate democracy for sure. They through their political rivals off of roofs in 2007, those were fellow palestinians, in order to enact their violent coup in gaza. Hamas hates democracy, hamas hates israel. There is a lot of things hamas finds hateful, frankly, and democracy is just one of many. So i think it is an absolutely fair characterisation, and the president s point is that if you fail to stand up to this kind of absolutely naked brutal aggression, you can only expect more of it, and i think that is absolutely a common sense, correct point. Qk. I think that is absolutely a commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick up commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick up on commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick up on that commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick up on that point commonsense, correct point. Ok. I want to pick up on that point in want to pick up on that point in just a moment, but i think we have another guest with so i to bring into the conversation, aaron david miller, a seniorfellow into the conversation, aaron david miller, a senior fellow for International Peace who has worked in the middle east for many years, at the state department as well. If you can hear me, i saw that you tweeted earlier today, i hope the president s message tonight is a strong condemnation of hate speech and attacks on muslims and jews and and attacks on muslims and jews and a call for Mutual Respect and understanding here at home. Did you hear that from him . Understanding here at home. Did you hearthat from him . I understanding here at home. Did you hear that from him . Hear that from him . I did, and im lad he hear that from him . I did, and im glad he included hear that from him . I did, and im glad he included it hear that from him . I did, and im glad he included it in hear that from him . I did, and im glad he included it in his hear that from him . I did, and im glad he included it in his address. | glad he included it in his address. The reality, i think it was george will who said when it comes to Foreign Policy, americans want as little of it as possible. I think this speech tonight, there was nothing wrong with it, but president ial rhetoric rarely persuades. Ask bill clinton and ronald reagan, two great president ial persuaders, certainly when it comes to legislation. I think the speech will impress israelis and ukrainians and if he mentioned taiwan it would impress the taiwanese. Im not sure it would impress many americans. The focus is not on russia and ukraine, certainly not on russia and ukraine, certainly not on russia and ukraine, certainly not on israel and palestine, it is on our own personal security when it comes to inflation. That is what is going to determine, it seems to me, the architecture of the trajectory as we look forward to the 2024 president ial elections. But i think it was important since our own house is badly broken that he spent some time talking about the importance of Mutual Respect and understanding and condemnation of islamophobia, of anyone who hates palestinians, muslims and of course Anti Semitism. We also heard the president talk about the two state solution. His administration have said they still firmly believe that if not at this very moment, that is at least long term still the aim. Is that still in your view possible, given what we are seeing on the ground right now . What we are seeing on the ground riaht now . , ~. ,. , what we are seeing on the ground right now . Right now . You know, i was in jerusalem right now . You know, i was in jerusalem october right now . You know, i was in jerusalem october six, right now . You know, i was in jerusalem october six, 1973 i right now . You know, i was in jerusalem october six, 1973 during the october war, and i saw a nation that was traumatised and vulnerable, the greatest strategic failure in israel until a couple of weeks ago, and yet within six years, all of that trauma turned to a measure of hope with the egyptian israeli peace treaty. So 20 years later im sitting on the white house lawn, part of the american delegation, negotiators, watching clinton and arafat signed the accord, convinced that the conflict had reached a point that we were going to try to resolve it. And yet here we are in trauma. So the first step is trauma to hope, the second is hope to trauma. Ive given up frankly saying never. Ive given up convincing myself this will never happen, this cant possibly, right . So do i think there is a chance for the two state solution right now, absolutely not. It is a talking point, it is an aspiration. Do i think if you add the right kind of leaders who own the right kind of leaders who own the negotiations and are effective at mediation, do i think its possible . Yes, ithink at mediation, do i think its possible . Yes, i think its possible, and frankly im not sure theres an alternative, other than despair, hopelessness and a continuation of this ghastly conflict between israelis and palestinians. 50 conflict between israelis and palestinians. Conflict between israelis and palestinians. ,. , palestinians. So aaron, in the short term, palestinians. So aaron, in the short term. What palestinians. So aaron, in the short term. What do palestinians. So aaron, in the short term, what do you palestinians. So aaron, in the short term, what do you think palestinians. So aaron, in the short term, what do you think president i term, what do you think President Biden should do to calm tensions in the region and to ensure the conflict doesnt spread . Ihe the region and to ensure the conflict doesnt spread . He is aushin conflict doesnt spread . He is pushing for conflict doesnt spread . He is pushing for humanitarian conflict doesnt spread . He is pushing for humanitarian aid. J conflict doesnt spread . He is| pushing for humanitarian aid. I think we will ameliorate some of the tragedy, the catastrophe that has occurred in gaza but it is a problem time and space, and i dont think there is a fixed rate now to the humanitarian issue. Deterrence, we deploy two Carrier Strike groups to the med. May be hamas, if they are prepared to fight israel to the last palestinian, i dont think they want to compromise their own assets by triggering a major conflict with israel and i think thats true of iran. Frankly, events control us. We are on the cusp of a major Israeli Ground campaign, which is going to be qualitatively and quantitatively different than anything weve ever seen. It is a long, dark tunnel and im not even going to predict where its going to come out, but the situation is going to get worse before it gets worse, on that i am absolutely persuaded. D0 before it gets worse, on that i am absolutely persuaded. Before it gets worse, on that i am absolutely persuaded. Do you have a sense, absolutely persuaded. Do you have a sense. Aaron. Absolutely persuaded. Do you have a sense, aaron, what absolutely persuaded. Do you have a sense, aaron, what you absolutely persuaded. Do you have a sense, aaron, what you think sense, aaron, what you think israels strategy is . That is a question we have been putting too many of our israeli analysts who have been speaking to the bbc, what the plan is, if the aim is to eradicate hamas, what that looks like for gaza after that goal is presumably reached . No, i think the israelis firmly believe it is within their capacity. They may be a player in a post hamas gaza, maybe even aspire to such a thing. Hamas is a movement, its not like a rotary organisation where you attend meetings and you get a card, it is deeply ensconced in the social, economic and religious fabric of gaza. Maybe they can eliminate the gaza. Maybe they can eliminate tie administrative gaza. Maybe they can eliminate it ie administrative capacity, maybe they can fundamentally erode haouass capacity to govern, its sovereignty in gaza, and maybe they can destroy its military capacity. The real question as you point out is what comes next. Without a combination of external players, including the United Nations, certainly it was true of kosovo, with the multiNational Security force in kosovo, with saudi money, with israeli and egyptian bayern, with the Palestinian Authority is dysfunctional and broken as it is, maybe you could cobble something together egyptian buy in. The son and the stars will have to align precisely the right moment, the International Communities will have to stand up and own this and do it with well and skill. It is hard to imagine that that sort of Bright Futures where were headed, im sorry to drone on but its an important point. {lil sorry to drone on but its an important point. Sorry to drone on but its an imortant oint. U. , a,. , important point. Of course, aaron david miller. Important point. Of course, aaron david miller, thank important point. Of course, aaron david miller, thank you important point. Of course, aaron david miller, thank you so important point. Of course, aaron david miller, thank you so much i important point. Of course, aaron i david miller, thank you so much for joining us with those thoughts. Pleasure. �. Joining us with those thoughts. Pleasure. � ,. ,. , pleasure. And i ust want to bring back khaled, pleasure. And i just want to bring back khaled, because pleasure. And i just want to bring back khaled, because i pleasure. And i just want to bring back khaled, because i know pleasure. And i just want to bring i back khaled, because i know youve got to go and weve just got a minute with your left. Any thoughts you want to share after what we just heard . You want to share after what we ust heard . , you want to share after what we ust heard . ,. ~. ,. , you want to share after what we ust heard . ,. �. ,. Heard . Yes, i agree with aaron, that israel heard . Yes, i agree with aaron, that israel doesnt heard . Yes, i agree with aaron, that israel doesnt have heard . Yes, i agree with aaron, that israel doesnt have any heard . Yes, i agree with aaron, that israel doesnt have any clear israel doesnt have any clear endgame, and i think that is one of the major danger is that we now face, and one of the dangers of giving an enraged and mostly emotional Israeli Government a free rein to do as it pleases. I dont think that the most sober, rational people are at the wheel, and they are thinking about inflicting punishment, and not about what comes later. In large part i think because there is a sense of what has always happened after a major Bombing Campaign is someone else will pick up campaign is someone else will pick up the pieces, right . It will be the International Community who comes in with aid, to reconstruction, and some sort of ceasefire of course, but in this case, israel is going to have to own it, because they are clearly have broken it. Ok. Really interesting clearly have broken it. Ok. Really interesting to clearly have broken it. Ok. Really interesting to get clearly have broken it. Ok. Really interesting to get your clearly have broken it. Ok. Really interesting to get your thoughts, | interesting to get your thoughts, khaled, i know we have to let you go but thank you so much forjoining us in sharing your insights with us in the programme. A really interesting perspective. Of course, we are going to continue with this coverage, a really interesting discussion we have had with our guests, just as we have had with our guests, just as we have had with our guests, just as we have had the president to deliver his address in the oval office, asking for more aid for israel and ukraine, taiwan and also the us mexico border. Ukraine, taiwan and also the us mexico border. � e,. , , mexico border. American leadership is what holds mexico border. American leadership is what holds the mexico border. American leadership is what holds the world mexico border. American leadership is what holds the world together. I is what holds the world together. American alliances are what keep us, america, say. American values are what make us a partner that other nations want to work with. To put all that at risk if we walk away from ukraine, we turn our backs on israel, isjust not from ukraine, we turn our backs on israel, is just not worth it. From ukraine, we turn our backs on israel, isjust not worth it. Thats why tomorrow im going to send to congress and urgent budget request to fund americas National Security needs to support our critical partners, including israel and ukraine. , partners, including israel and ukraine. ,. , ukraine. There are signs that israel is read in ukraine. There are signs that israel is readying itself ukraine. There are signs that israel is readying itself for ukraine. There are signs that israel is readying itself for a ukraine. There are signs that israel is readying itself for a possible is readying itself for a possible ground offensive in the gaza strip. Israels Defence Minister told troops that they will soon see the on play from inside. The Israeli Ministry has been readying itself for an expected ground incursion into the territory while the israeli Prime Minister told other troops we will win. Jordan has said that it fears the worst from what is to come. The United Nations and aid agencies say a lack of water food, medicine and other essentials is making the situation for displaced people in gaza increasingly desperate. Egyptian state media say the ravioli crossing into gaza will be open for several hours later today to allow the delivery of supplies. Lorries are at the border although aid agencies for the first consignments will not merely be enough. The un says designated shelters are overcrowded and water cannot be pumped or