Policy director forjeremy Corbyn Andrew fisher 7 and from washington, republican and former adviser to george w bush, ron christie. Good evening. The biggest number ofjews killed in a single day since the holocaust. Women, children, grandmothers, driven away possibly to their deaths. Driven away possibly some of them raped repeatedly and murdered. That is the context. And that is why these coming days we will see an unflinching response from the Israeli Government. This is the fourth such conflict in gaza since israel unilaterally withdrew from the strip in 2005. But this is unlike those otherwars, not least because the number of israelis killed in the weekends violence is itself unprecedented. The israeli public will demand that hamas pays a heavy price, and the calls for a Ground Incursion will be ringing in the ears of the politically imperilled benjamin netenyahu. The question is to what end . And at what cost . We will get into some of that tonight, but it is fair to assume it will not be quick nor will it be without immense casualties. John christie, the egyptian president has just spoken to the turkish president ron christie, saying that israel needs to end the violence and protect civilians, do you think there is a limit to how far israel can go here, or will the white house give them Carte Blanche to do whatever they want . Goad to do whatever they want . Good evenin , to do whatever they want . Good evening, christian. To do whatever they want . Good evening, christian. Let to do whatever they want . Good evening, christian. Let me to do whatever they want . Good evening, christian. Let me say l to do whatever they want . emf. Evening, christian. Let me say from the outset what a horrific state of events that we have seen in the last 48 to 72 hours. My heartjust breaks looking at the footage of the people who have been kidnapped, murdered, and are being just held in unimaginable conditions. That being said, was the egyptian and the turkish president is speaking and saying that there needs to be a ceasefire and there needs to be the escalation of violence, i would suggest that israel did not start this conflict, and there needs to be original response to this of Condemning Hamas and condemning hezbollah for what we see. 50 yes, they can say whatever they want, but they can say whatever they want, but the de escalation needs to start and end with hamas and hezbollah. Buti end with hamas and hezbollah. But i remember in end with hamas and hezbollah. But i remember in 2008, end with hamas and hezbollah. But i remember in 2008, in end with hamas and hezbollah. But i remember in 2008, in 2012, in other conflicts, ron, the bombing starts, the palestinian casualties mount very quickly because it is so densely populated, and International Pressure starts to build, and demands that the Israeli Government bring it to an end. I did not hear that in the voice of the Prime MinisterBenjamin Netanyahu tonight, and i ask again, how much political cover do you think he gets from washington . I cover do you think he gets from washington . Cover do you think he gets from washinuton . ~ ,. Washington . I think he gets all the Olitical Washington . I think he gets all the political cover washington . I think he gets all the political cover he washington . I think he gets all the political cover he needs. Washington . I think he gets all the political cover he needs. I washington . I think he gets all the political cover he needs. I have political cover he needs. I have been watching very rapidly at the former speaker, been watching very rapidly at the formerspeaker, could been watching very rapidly at the former speaker, could be seen to be speaker again Kevin Mccarthy, he has been on the airwaves today saying that we have unwavering support here in the United States or the state of israel. You had resident biden come out with an unequivocal statement saying that whatever material and whatever israel needs for the United States, we are there to provide it, we have moved the Uss Gerald Ford battle group, the most sophisticated Aircraft Carrier in our arsenal, into the eastern part of the mediterranean. I think america is going to stand up, unlike the two you made reference to, from decades past, i think the americans are going to stand up to the military and say, dont think about making this a broader conflict than it already what it is. This a broader conflict than it already what it is. While we are talkin , already what it is. While we are talking. Im already what it is. While we are talking, im going already what it is. While we are talking, im going to already what it is. While we are talking, im going to bring already what it is. While we are talking, im going to bring in i already what it is. While we are i talking, im going to bring in some live pictures we are getting from north london, this is a synagogue, actually, in north west london, just the one and these are not our pictures, they are pictures from the live camera in the synagogue, but they are relevant tonight because pro minister rishi sunak is there, it is a service theyre holding for those killed in israel, we will continue to focus on those pictures and we will bring you any comments from the Prime Minister as and when he speaks, but this is a community that labour has had difficulty with in years gone by. We know that there is enormous support for the palestinian cause within the labour group. I did not hear that today, though, from Rachel Reeves the shadow chancellor, and bring to play to our viewers what she said in her morning round this morning, and what you hear is talk of terrorism rather than a two State Solution. My heart was out to everybody affected my heart was out to everybody affected by these awful horrendous attacks affected by these awful horrendous attacks of the last few days. Goes attacks of the last few days. Goes out attacks of the last few days. Goes out. Israel has every right to defend goes out. Israel has every right to defend itself, to bring the hostages home defend itself, to bring the hostages home, and to bring home its citizens. Home, and to bring home its citizens, and the terrorist attacks by hamas citizens, and the terrorist attacks by hamas have back the cause of peace by hamas have back the cause of peace that by hamas have back the cause of peace that so many of us want to see taken peace that so many of us want to see taken forward in The Middle East, but this taken forward in The Middle East, but this is taken forward in The Middle East, but this is a sad day for those who want but this is a sad day for those who want to but this is a sad day for those who want to see but this is a sad day for those who want to see peace and a two State Solution. Want to see peace and a two State Solution. ~. ,. ,. , want to see peace and a two State Solution. ~. ,. Solution. What would labour say to the chief rabbi solution. What would labour say to the chief rabbi about solution. What would labour say to the chief rabbi about the solution. What would labour say to the chief rabbi about the situation| the chief rabbi about the situation in gaza tonight, and the number of israelis that have been killed over the weekend . I israelis that have been killed over the weekend . Israelis that have been killed over the weekend . I think we should not conflate what the weekend . I think we should not conflate what is the weekend . I think we should not conflate what is a the weekend . I think we should not conflate what is a regional the weekend . I think we should not conflate what is a regional conflict l conflate what is a regional conflict which conflate what is a regional conflict which has conflate what is a regional conflict which has had horrific scenes over the last which has had horrific scenes over the last 72 which has had horrific scenes over the last 72 hours, which i think have the last 72 hours, which i think have numbed all of us by the brutal violence have numbed all of us by the brutal violence We Have Numbed all of us by the brutal violence we have seen, both the horrific violence we have seen, both the horrific attack by hamas and the unmitigated bombardment of gaza we have seen unmitigated bombardment of gaza we have seen in response. It is a very sad situation, and hundreds of people sad situation, and hundreds of people on sad situation, and hundreds of people on both sides have died, and we should people on both sides have died, and we should not mix up that all mustinte we should not mix up that all muslims think the same and alljews think the muslims think the same and alljews think the same because of what is going think the same because of what is going on think the same because of what is going on in think the same because of what is going on in israel and palestine. What going on in israel and palestine. What i going on in israel and palestine. What i have heard today from the uk and the what i have heard today from the uk and the us what i have heard today from the uk and the us is hypocrisy. We have heard and the us is hypocrisy. We have heard israel has the right to defend itself heard israel has the right to defend itself. Does palestine . Does palestine have the right to secure borders . Palestine have the right to secure borders . If we believe in human rights, borders . If we believe in human rights, they are universal, they belong rights, they are universal, they belong to rights, they are universal, they belong to all humans and all of them count~ belong to all humans and all of them count~ this belong to all humans and all of them count. This is a conflict that has gone count. This is a conflict that has gone on count. This is a conflict that has gone on for count. This is a conflict that has gone on for decades, and im afraid the uk gone on for decades, and im afraid the uk and gone on for decades, and im afraid the uk and the us bear some responsibility in failing to bring about responsibility in failing to bring about the peace that every politician pays lip service to, but ashley politician pays lip service to, but ashley hasnt done anything to deliver. Ashley hasnt done anything to deliver, and unfortunately the situation deliver, and unfortunately the situation has got worse on both sides. Situation has got worse on both sides. We situation has got worse on both sides, we have two seen atrocities by and sides, we have two seen atrocities by and by sides, we have two seen atrocities by and by palestinian forces as well, by and by palestinian forces as well, we by and by palestinian forces as well, we have to try to bring this to end well, we have to try to bring this to end and well, we have to try to bring this to end and enforce a two State Solution to end and enforce a two State Solution in to end and enforce a two State Solution in line with the 1967 borders solution in line with the 1967 borders. �. Solution in line with the 1967 borders. � solution in line with the 1967 borders. ~ � , borders. But again, andrew, theres a slit in borders. But again, andrew, theres a split in the borders. But again, andrew, theres a split in the room. Borders. But again, andrew, theres a split in the room. I borders. But again, andrew, theres a split in the room. I hear borders. But again, andrew, theres a split in the room. I hear what a split in the room. I hear what youre saying, but that is not the message coming from the states today, it has not come from Rachel Reeves or from sir today, it has not come from Rachel Reeves orfrom sir keir starmer, and a messagejust seated reeves orfrom sir keir starmer, and a message just seated there is problematic for the Labour Leadership because it undermines the message they are trying to give to stay Ozilla Community in north london who want to hear you condemn terrorism. I london who want to hear you condemn terrorism. , terrorism. I have condemned terrorism terrorism. I have condemned terrorism. Rachel terrorism. I have condemned terrorism. Rachel reeves terrorism. I have condemned terrorism. Rachel reeves isl terrorism. I have condemned terrorism. Rachel reeves is talking about terrorism terrorism. Rachel reeves is talking about terrorism being terrorism. Rachel reeves is talking about terrorism being perpetuated| about terrorism being perpetuated against israelis. You about terrorism being perpetuated against israelis. About terrorism being perpetuated against israelis. You have ust said the Ozilla Community against israelis. You have ust said the Ozilla Community in against israelis. You have ust said the Ozilla Community in a h against israelis. You have just said the Ozilla Community in a north the Ozilla Community in a north london, there is a Jewish Community in north london, there is a Jewish Community in north london, not all of them agree in north london, not all of them agree with in north london, not all of them agree with the actions of the israeli state is really community. A lot will come and will understandably feel very emotional. I understandably feel very emotional. I have understandably feel very emotional. I have every sympathy for those people i have every sympathy for those people who have suffered losses on southern people who have suffered losses on southern israel and in gaza israeli southern israel and in gaza israeli community. I condemn terrorism. Israeli community. I condemn terrorism, i also condemn when the israeli terrorism, i also condemn when the Israeli Government bombards a civilian Israeli Government bombards a civilian population, 2 Million People civilian population, 2 Million People held inside the biggest Open Air Prison Camp in the world, and is Open Air Prison Camp in the world, and is shelling and killing innocent civilians and is shelling and killing innocent civilians as and is shelling and killing innocent civilians as well. That does not make civilians as well. That does not make it civilians as well. That does not make it right, and it is wrong when the uk make it right, and it is wrong when the uk dropped bombs on iraq, it is wrong the uk dropped bombs on iraq, it is wrong when the uk dropped bombs on iraq, it is wrong when hamas those people up, i condemn wrong when hamas those people up, i condemn all wrong when hamas those people up, i condemn all violence, and i think if you are condemn all violence, and i think if you are consistently believing in human you are consistently believing in human rights, then you say that. I hear human rights, then you say that. Hear your human rights, then you say that. I hear your message, and youre quite right to pick me up, i did mean the jewish committee, not the israeli community, because not alljewish people here support what the Israeli Government is doing, of course. Ron, no speaker in the house. We were saying only on wednesday what if there is a crisis and the house needs to respond, here it is. Lets listen to what the ousted speaker Kevin Mccarthy said today and i will get you to respond. This is about a moment in time, this is about what america is going to do. Could you imagine if we were sitting here and we listened further that we were in a shutdown . As we asked our 30,000 Men And Women In The Military in The Middle East, to defend us without being paid . That question around the world of what was happening here today. Unfortunately, the house can do nothing without a speaker. I could be upset with eight, but i could be upset with every single democrat as well. They both made the same decision, a political decision, instead of putting america first. We should have a resolution on the floor condemning whats taken place so the rest of the world understands. We should supply and make sure that there is no question and no doubt that israel will never be overwhelmed when it comes to ammunition. That if they were to decide to send the precision guided missiles, that they will be knocked down. We should send no doubt to anyone that holds an american citizen that we will not leave without them. This will not be afghanistan. We will not allow this administration to do this again. But this is of the republicans making. Not only do we not have a speaker in the house, because of the now broken Confirmation Process the us does not have a Us Ambassador in israel, in egypt, or lebanon. No state Department Coordinator for counterterrorism for nearly two years. What should congress be doing now to put this right . It is pathetic that these eight people have deposed the speaker without recognising what the ramifications of that might be, which is to shut the House Of Representatives down. The only thing the Acting Speaker can do is bring them in and out, they cannot bring any revolution is to be full, they cannot consider any appropriations measures, for ukraine orfor cannot consider any appropriations measures, for ukraine or for israel or The Middle East, they cannot do a darn thing. So when people think, letsjust darn thing. So when people think, lets just throw darn thing. So when people think, letsjust throw a darn thing. So when people think, lets just throw a grenade in the middle of the House Of Representatives floor and watch it explode and say, wasnt that fun, it has global geostrategic ramifications, we assume that right now. I would not be surprised, and you can tell me in a couple of days you can tell me in a couple of days you cannot believe i said that, they reinstall Kevin Mccarthy. He said he would not run again, do not want his job back again, to now saying he would let the will of the conference decide his fate. I think that fate could come as soon as tomorrow, and no later than wednesday, so stay tuned. �. ,. , tuned. 0k. Andrew, i want to talk about the humanitarian tuned. 0k. Andrew, i want to talk about the humanitarian response. Tuned. 0k. Andrew, i want to talk about the humanitarian response. We have had word today from the European Commission that it is reviewing the aid it sends a palestinian territories, but since it doesnt actually send any of the moment, that is not really pertinent, i wouldnt say. What is more serious of course is the blockade of gaza, the un agency looks after Palestinian Refugees saying tonight that it will run of food very quickly, there is no electricity, there is no clean water, sanitation is very poor. This very quickly is going to turn into a humanitarian catastrophe. It is horrific what humanitarian catastrophe. It is horrific what is humanitarian catastrophe. It is horrific what is going on in gaza now, horrific what is going on in gaza now. The horrific what is going on in gaza now, the cutting off of water, electricity, gas, and food to a civilian electricity, gas, and food to a civilian population of 2 Million People civilian population of 2 Million People is civilian population of 2 Million People is no response to what happened. Nobody defends hamas, nobody happened. Nobody defends hamas, nobody minds hamas people being shot, nobody minds hamas people being shot, frankly i have no problem with israel shot, frankly i have no problem with israel making a proportionate response to the horrific actions that happened, but collective punishment of 2 Million People who have been punishment of 2 Million People who have been in poverty for decades because have been in poverty for decades because of the israeli blockade of their country isjust a barbaric response. Their country isjust a barbaric response, and cannot be defended no matter response, and cannot be defended no matter how response, and cannot be defended no matter how much you sympathise with israel matter how much you sympathise with israel and matter how much you sympathise with israel and what went on in southern israel israel and what went on in southern israel over israel and what went on in southern israel over the last 72 hours. It is a war israel over the last 72 hours. It is a war crime israel over the last 72 hours. It is a war crime. To do that to a civilian a war crime. To do that to a civilian population is very clearly in International Law a war crime, we should in International Law a war crime, we should call in International Law a war crime, we should call at that. Nowjust addition should call at that. Nowjust addition for targeting civilians, ust addition for targeting civilians, just as addition for targeting civilians, just as there isnt for hamas to what just as there isnt for hamas to what it just as there isnt for hamas to what it did just as there isnt for hamas to what it did to resist water, as they see it. What it did to resist water, as they see it. To what it did to resist water, as they see it, to resist the israeli obligation of their country. We will talk about the obligation of their country. We will talk about the egyptians obligation of their country. We will talk about the egyptians later obligation of their country. We will talk about the egyptians later in i talk about the egyptians later in the programme occupation of their country. The egyptian president has spoken to the saudis, to the turkish president tonight. Is there a responsibility on him to do something in terms of aid taking up casualties, maybe even taking in refugees, there does not seem to be much information in cairo, little talk a good game about the palestinians, but not much inclination to help them. He palestinians, but not much inclination to help them. He is a dictator who inclination to help them. He is a dictator who took inclination to help them. He is a dictator who took Power Inclination to help them. He is a dictator who took power after i inclination to help them. He is a dictator who took power after a | dictator who took power after a democratic coup, he does not have much democratic coup, he does not have much respect for his own people, so i much respect for his own people, so i dont much respect for his own people, so idont think much respect for his own people, so i dont think he is the answer. There i dont think he is the answer. There is, i dont think he is the answer. There is, im afraid, only one major regional there is, im afraid, only one major Regional Power in The Middle East, and that Regional Power in The Middle East, and that is Regional Power in The Middle East, and that is the us, and unfortunately, until that plays an honest unfortunately, until that plays an honest role of broker in this situation, honest role of broker in this situation, as it did 30 years ago, when situation, as it did 30 years ago, when we situation, as it did 30 years ago, when we came very close to the peace accords, when we came very close to the peace accords, we when we came very close to the peace accords, we need to get that back on course, accords, we need to get that back on course, the accords, we need to get that back on course, the mostly suffering for both course, the mostly suffering for both israelis and palestinians is going both israelis and palestinians is going to both israelis and palestinians is going to continue, and it is tragic to watch going to continue, and it is tragic to watch. ,. ,. , to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any resonse to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any response if to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any response if there to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any response if there are to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any response if there are no to watch. Yeah. They cannot be any l response if there are no ambassadors in the region. In north london, rishi sunak is speaking at the synagogue tonight, the chief rabbi is there, and he hasjust taken synagogue tonight, the chief rabbi is there, and he has just taken to his feet to talk to the audience there, lets have a listen. I wanted to come here tonight to stand with you, to stand with you in this hour of grief, as we mourn the victims of an utterly abhorrent act of terror. To stand with you in this hour of prayer, as we think of those held hostage, and yourfriends held hostage, and your friends and loved ones taking refuge in Bomb Shelters while risking their lives on the front line. And perhaps above all, i wanted to come here tonight to stand with you in solidarity. In israels hour of need. As the Prime Minister of this country, i am unequivocal. The people who support hamas artfully responsible for this appalling attack. Are fully responsible. They are not militants, they are not freedom fighters, they are terrorists. Their barbaric acts are acts of evil. There is no other word to describe what we have seen. Teenagers at a festival of peace gunned down in cold blood. Innocent men, women and children abducted, raped, slaughtered, even a holocaust survivor taken away as a captive. And much of the sickening evidence posted online. There are not two sides to these events. There is no question of balance. I stand with israel. We stand with israel. Kingdom stands with israel against the stellar doesnt today, tomorrow, and always. I know that at moments like this when the jewish i know that at moments like this when thejewish people are under attack in their homeland, jewish people everywhere can feel less safe. We have already seen vile words on our streets and attempts to Start Community tensions. I say not here. Not in britain, not in our country, not in this century. My my first duty is to protect you. We will not tolerate this hate, we will not tolerate this anti semitism, and i promise you, i will stop at nothing to keep you safe. Let mejust conclude let me just conclude with this thought. In the last few days, we have seen a heinous act, redolent of the worst of humanity, and peace may feel further away than it has in a very long time, but i know this, to the hope of israel is built on The Very Best of humanity. This extraordinary land, this democracy, the only one in The Middle East where you can vote, where you can be gay, this technological superpower which delivers breakthroughs in science and medicine that are a gift to the world, this promised homeland of the jewish people. To the world, this promised homeland of thejewish people. In the words of the hatikvah, that hope is not lost, even in these darkest days, perhaps especially in these darkest days. Together we hold fast to that hope of 2000 years. The days and weeks ahead will continue to be very difficult, but when we say that we stand with israel, we mean it. Notjust we stand with israel, we mean it. Not just today, we stand with israel, we mean it. Notjust today, notjust we stand with israel, we mean it. Not just today, not just tomorrow, but always. And i will stand with you, the britishJewish Community, notjust you, the britishJewish Community, not just today, you, the britishJewish Community, notjust today, notjust you, the britishJewish Community, not just today, not just tomorrow, but always. The Prime Minister rishi sunak at a synagogue in north west london, reaffirming governments unequivocal position on what happened over the weekend, he said there are not two sides to this conflict, i stand with israel. Andrew, your response to what you have just heard . I israel. Andrew, your response to what you have just heard . What you have ust heard . I think rishi sum what you have ust heard . I think rishi sunak as what you havejust heard . I think rishi sunak as the what you havejust heard . I think rishi sunak as the prime what you havejust heard . I think| rishi sunak as the Prime Minister what you have just heard . I think. Rishi sunak as the Prime Minister is iilht rishi sunak as the Prime Minister is right to rishi sunak as the Prime Minister is right to reassure the Jewish Community, there has been a horrible attack community, there has been a horrible attack on community, there has been a horrible attack on israel and obviously people attack on israel and obviously people are worried about their safety, people are worried about their safety, and as i understand it, there safety, and as i understand it, there have safety, and as i understand it, there have been some attacks, although there have been some attacks, although we do not know the full details. Although we do not know the full details, and some jewish businesses in the details, and some jewish businesses in the last details, and some jewish businesses in the last 24 hours in london. So obviously in the last 24 hours in london. So obviously he in the last 24 hours in london. So obviously he is right to do that. I think obviously he is right to do that. I think where i would disagree with him is think where i would disagree with him is where he says there are not two sides him is where he says there are not two sides. Im sorry, there are. There two sides. Im sorry, there are. There are two sides. Im sorry, there are. There are palestinian lives dying tonight there are palestinian lives dying tonight in there are palestinian lives dying tonight in gaza. Hundreds of gazans have already died in this conflict, and to have already died in this conflict, and to say have already died in this conflict, and to say theres only one side is to whitewash them out of the picture. To whitewash them out of the picture, and that isjust inhumane. There picture, and that isjust inhumane. There are picture, and that isjust inhumane. There are innocent civilians on both sides there are innocent civilians on both sides of there are innocent civilians on both sides of those who are dying in their sides of those who are dying in their hundreds, unfortunately, in conflict, their hundreds, unfortunately, in conflict, and to say theres one side conflict, and to say theres one side only, conflict, and to say theres one side only, i conflict, and to say theres one side only, i understand it thinking, what side only, i understand it thinking, what hamas did was wrong and contemptible and we all agree with that, but contemptible and we all agree with that, but that does notjustify contemptible and we all agree with that, but that does not justify the israeli that, but that does not justify the israeli response tonight. Ron, that, but that does notjustify the israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is riaht, israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is right, there israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is right, there is israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is right, there is no israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is right, there is no solution i israeli response tonight. Ron, and it is right, there is no solution to i it is right, there is no solution to this repeated cycle of violence until the world admits there are two sides and we need an equitable solution to the problem in The Middle East otherwise we just go round and round andrew is right. I totally disagree with that. I was at the white house on 9 11, there were not two sides went nearly 2000 americans were slaughtered. Innocent civilians were killed. It wasnt two sides. It was one group of terrorists who decided to inflict terrorists who decided to inflict terror on the United States. But not eve bod terror on the United States. But not everybody in terror on the United States. But not everybody in gaza terror on the United States. But not everybody in Gaza Supports terror on the United States. But not everybody in Gaza Supports hamas, j everybody in Gaza Supports hamas, thatis everybody in Gaza Supports hamas, that is the point andrew is making, not everyone in the west Bank Supports hamas, there was no two State Solution, and the question is, if they go into gaza, to what end, and how do they replace hamas and create a leadership for the palestinians that bring about peace . We want to talk about a two State Solution, something i completely agree with, on the one hand i would say, having been to the west bank, having visited a president who was last elected to a four year term over a decade ago, is not negotiating for peace, he is holding onto power, and at this point, at this time, to say, maybe it is israels fault, why dont we look at the leadership of the palestinian folks and say, why are you clinging to power . Why are you taking billions of dollars and not providing century, food, and other needed necessities for your people . On this side of the pond, it is not just israels fault, lets look at the head of hezbollah, a look at iran and say, there are other actors to this, other than to just say it as israels fault. To this, other than to ust say it as israels fault. As israels fault. There is no alternative, as israels fault. There is no alternative, andrew, i as israels fault. There is no alternative, andrew, that i as israels fault. There is no alternative, andrew, that isj as israels fault. There is no i alternative, andrew, that is the problem. They are not a partnerfor peace at the moment. The problem. They are not a partner for peace at the moment. The Palestinian Authority and peace at the moment. The Palestinian Authority and yasser peace at the moment. The Palestinian Authority and Yasser Arafat authority and Yasser Arafat previously did try to negotiate for peace previously did try to negotiate for peace by previously did try to negotiate for peace. By the way, no dissent this is a littles peace. By the way, no dissent this is a littles fault, i do not know what is a littles fault, i do not know what is is a littles fault, i do not know what is wrong with his feet, because he is clearly what is wrong with his feet, because he is clearly not hearing properly, i did he is clearly not hearing properly, i did not he is clearly not hearing properly, i did not say that and i did not hear i did not say that and i did not hear you i did not say that and i did not hear you say at either, christian what hear you say at either, christian what is hear you say at either, christian what is wrong hear you say at either, christian what is wrong with his feed. The Palestinian People have been living under Palestinian People have been living under occupation for 56 years, we stand under occupation for 56 years, we stand with under occupation for 56 years, we stand with ukrainians rightly because stand with ukrainians rightly because russia has occupied the land. Because russia has occupied the land. Why because russia has occupied the land, why does the occupation of Palestinian People not matter . That does not Palestinian People not matter . That does notjustify the Palestinian People not matter . That does not justify the actually so in response. Does not justify the actually so in response, i willjust emphasise that. Response, i willjust emphasise that, because i think it is clear to anyone that, because i think it is clear to anyone obviously anyway, but it obviously anyone obviously anyway, but it obviously does need emphasising that there has obviously does need emphasising that there has to be a peace process. You will not there has to be a peace process. You will not get there has to be a peace process. You will not get a there has to be a peace process. You will not get a civilian partner for peace will not get a civilian partner for peace unless you are genuinely trying peace unless you are genuinely trying to peace unless you are genuinely trying to engage with that. And at the moment, that has not been the case the moment, that has not been the case in the moment, that has not been the case infact. The moment, that has not been the case. In fact, for30 the moment, that has not been the case. In fact, for 30 years, there has been case. In fact, for 30 years, there has been no case. In fact, for 30 years, there has been no Major Initiative to try to resolve has been no Major Initiative to try to resolve this, and actually what you have to resolve this, and actually what you have seen is more incursions, more you have seen is more incursions, more settlements within the west bank. More settlements within the west bank, almost destroying the possibility of a two State Solution, because possibility of a two State Solution, because a possibility of a two State Solution, because a viable palestine does not exist with because a viable palestine does not exist with the settlements there on the west exist with the settlements there on the west bank. The west bank. Ron, do you think this action the west bank. Ron, do you think this action from the west bank. Ron, do you think this action from hamas the west bank. Ron, do you think this action from hamas was i the west bank. Ron, do you think this action from hamas was born | the west bank. Ron, do you think. This action from hamas was born out of isolation . You have the Abraham Accords that the republicans negotiated with three countries, then you have the ongoing negotiation currently with saudi arabia. In return for no concessions for the Palestinian People. So hamas increasingly isolated, arab governments, not african governments increasingly turning away from each other, was this a spoiler and was iran on board with this . I other, was this a spoiler and was iran onboard with this . Other, was this a spoiler and was iran onboard with this . I think was definitely on iran onboard with this . I think was definitely on board iran onboard with this . I think was definitely on board with iran onboard with this . I think was definitely on board with this, i iran onboard with this . I think was definitely on board with this, these | definitely on board with this, these were not carried out, they could not have been carried out by hamas. Their rockets arent nearly as sophisticated as what you see from hezbollah, so yes, i do believe that iran has been a part of this. Sure, we can talk about isolation, we can talk about desperation, but from my visits to this region, it seems to be that there is a leadership failure, and there is a Leadership Breakdown for those who profess that they want a peaceful two State Solution who, in my view, in my visits, seem more interested in their grip on power and in killing israelis. , ~. Israelis. Strangely, i think we are all actually israelis. Strangely, i think we are all actually on israelis. Strangely, i think we are all actually on the israelis. Strangely, i think we are all actually on the same israelis. Strangely, i think we are all actually on the same page i israelis. Strangely, i think we are l all actually on the same page here, i think we have all decided there is a vacuum of Palestinian Leadership and hamas are showing it, and to the enormous detriment of the Palestinian People, which is what we are witnessing now in the gaza strip and the blockade and the bombardment. Word proven that iran ordered this attack, the word from israel is that such a link does not exist, and that has been reaffirmed tonight from the Security Side of the white house. But as soon as the focus falls on iran, the proxy in lebanon would be forced to respond, and sure, andrew, that is what the white house is conscious of, a conflagration in the region. There is no simply with iran, they know that they are suddenly in the background financing hamas, but at the moment, they do not see a direct link. I the moment, they do not see a direct link. , � ~. ,. ,. , link. I dont know, i have no more information link. I dont know, i have no more information on link. I dont know, i have no more information on that, link. I dont know, i have no more information on that, from link. I dont know, i have no more information on that, from which l information on that, from which considerably less than the us and the wall considerably less than the us and the wall streetjournal, considerably less than the us and the wall street journal, even considerably less than the us and the wall streetjournal, even probably the wall streetjournal, even probably considerably less than the white probably considerably less than the white house and the wall street journal~ white house and the wall street journal. If iran has been passing rockets journal. If iran has been passing rockets to journal. If iran has been passing rockets to palestine, of course that is wrong. Rockets to palestine, of course that is wrong, but lets not forget, the uk and is wrong, but lets not forget, the uk and the is wrong, but lets not forget, the uk and the us are arming israel as they bombard gaza. Weapons that kill innocent they bombard gaza. Weapons that kill innocent civilians are weapons that kill innocent civilians, it does not matter kill innocent civilians, it does not matter where they came from, who is using matter where they came from, who is using them. Matter where they came from, who is using them, innocent civilians are dying using them, innocent civilians are dying and using them, innocent civilians are dying and that is what we have to put a dying and that is what we have to put a stop to. And matters i agree with what has been said about the failure agree with what has been said about the failure of Palestinian Leadership, but i would widen that to say leadership, but i would widen that to say there has been a failure of israeli. To say there has been a failure of israeli. Us. To say there has been a failure of israeli, us, uk and eu leadership on this issue, because we have not got to peace this issue, because we have not got to peace. In the Major Players in this Comedy People who can bring both sides this Comedy People who can bring both sides together, have failed, an abject both sides together, have failed, an abject failure of leadership, and unfortunately civilians in israel and in palestine are paying the price and in palestine are paying the price for and in palestine are paying the price for that and it is horrific to see price for that and it is horrific to see and price for that and it is horrific to see and the people who can bring both sides see and the people who can bring both sides together and have failed. What about the sovereign in lincoln, washington, ron . He is not denying that there was conspiracy with hamas, he said clearly iran is complicit here, but in terms of complicit here, but in terms of complicit evidence, these sort of attacks, no, we dont have anything. The people in washington need to just calm theirjets, take some caution here, wait for the intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely. I intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely. I was intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely. I was in intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely. I was in the I Intelligence to play out . Yes, absolutely. I was in the pod l intelligence to play out . Yes, | absolutely. I was in the pod of intelligence to play out . E ~ absolutely. I was in the pod of war on 911, and we didnt quite know who hit us, why they hit us, we recognised it was a jihadist attack, but we have to take a collective breath of air and say, ok, lets take the emotion out of this, lets get the intel community, the military in here and lets assess what has happened, and i think that is where you will find the United States and the uk and the israelis currently doing over the course of the next 24 hours to make sure that rather than make a mistake in the fog of war, that You Act On Reasonable and reliable intelligence to bring about a solution to suing the southern border of israel, to make sure that we dont have any more incursions in the north. And finding a peaceful solution to this very difficult quagmires that we find ourselves in. Joe biden has been talking in last few minutes. I want to bring you an update. These are the lines were getting from the agencies, at least 11 americans among those killed. I directed my team to work