A shutdown avoided at least for now, but what is the future for House SpeakerKevin Mccarthy . And what of the spending for ukraine . Money promised by the white house was stripped from the bill this weekend, just hours before a pro russia candidate in slovakia, regained power. Good evening, jeremy hunt is the seventh chancellor in 13 years to addess a conservative Party Conference. Today he stood on stage next to a slogan promising long term decisions for the future. Not the easiest sell when your partys trailing 16 points in the polls, and the government is about to cancel a key part of a flagship infrastructure project, in which you have already invested billions of pounds of taxpayers� money. A decision the current Prime Minister signed off as chancellorjust three years ago. We are also going to build better railways, madam deputy speaker. With spades going into the ground on hs2, our commitment to fund Manchester Leeds leg of Northern Powerhouse rail, we are going to build broadband, railways, roads. If the country needs it, we will build it. So, today, mr speaker, the cabinet has given high speed rail the green signal. We are going to get this done. The reports suggest a decision not to go ahead with the northern leg of the High Speed Railway has already been taken and will be announced in the Prime Ministers speech on wednesday. Given that the Party Conference is in manchester, where the line was supposed to end, the timing and location of such an announcement would be strange, to say the least. Number ten says no final decision has been made. But if it has, then how does the current chancellor explain it . As chancellor, i do have to answer the question as to why it cost ten times more to build high speed rail in this country and across the channel in france, because it is taxpayers� money. And i will also say that when that decision is made, at that time you see that we remain very to making sure we have the right economic infrastructure in this country. But more than that, im afraid, i cant say. Despite the inevitable backlash and Cabinet Resignations that may result, the chancellor insists the tories are the party to be trusted with taxpayers� money. He announced plans today to slash the headcount in the civil service, there are new penalties for Benefit Claimants who are not actively seeking work. And despite a clamour from the right for tax cuts ahead of the election, the chancellor says his First Priority is to get inflation under control. We are getting there. It was ii , it is now down by a0 . The plan is working. And now we must see it through, just as Margaret Thatcher did many years ago. Sonia is the only one in manchester who is not already in the pub said thank you for staying on for us. I think another man in the pub as henry morrison, the chair of the Northern Powerhouse project, he was on the programme in the last hour and he is serious about it being cancelled but fear is that no one will engage in conversation with him. ,. , 4 him. Yes, absolutely, ithink the thing about him. Yes, absolutely, ithink the thing about this him. Yes, absolutely, ithink the thing about this dyad him. Yes, absolutely, ithink the thing about this dyad conference j him. Yes, absolutely, i think the thing about this dyad conference was it was all supposed to be a bad jeremy hunt, the Chancellors Speech and enactment he was making a speech but the day has been completely overwhelmed with speculation about what will happen with hs2. I think the thing about this story is that it has not been confirmed or denied by number ten yet but the lack of strong denialfrom number ten that the birmingham to Manchester Leg is being scrapped does suggest that it may very well be on the cards, and there isn� t an official line coming out. So you� ve got a day where it was all supposed to be that the chancellor� s announcements but all that anyone is talking about in manchester is what is going to happen to hs2. We have got this quite extraordinary situation with the country has invested billions and billions, british taxpayers have,in and billions, british taxpayers have, in building this section of track that goes from birmingham to west london and the future of the part of the track that will go from birmingham to manchester and front west london into the centre of london is very much in question which begs the question that all those billions are spent on the part of the track that has already been committed to, what is that for because you only really get the benefit of this very expensive project if you extend north the birmingham to leeds branch has already been scrapped, now looks like birmingham to manchester might be scratched and even if you get on the train in birmingham, if you have to get off in west london and jump on the elizabeth line or tube line into central london, it ends up taking longer than the normal euston to birmingham journey anyway, sellers are people scratching their head and thinking if the rumours are true, what is the point of hs2 . Capital spending is a hot potato, wherever you are in the west. But particularly there in the 19 states as well, it was infrastructure week every week when donald trump was in power, why do western governments find it so difficult to put in place the infrastructure that will drive the infrastructure that will drive the economy . The economy . Yes, that is the multibilliondollar the economy . Yes, that is the multibilliondollar question i the economy . Yes, that is the l multibilliondollar question and the economy . Yes, that is the multibilliondollar question and we multibillion dollar question and we have certainly had our own problems with the have certainly had our own problems with the overrun of projects, in california, with the overrun of projects, in california, in washington, dc with amtrak california, in washington, dc with amtrak at california, in washington, dc with amtrak at the new york corridor, so once amtrak at the new york corridor, so once it amtrak at the new york corridor, so once it is amtrak at the new york corridor, so once it is built, you also have a massive once it is built, you also have a massive upkeep. And covid has changed massive upkeep. And covid has changed things. In washington, dc, the metro changed things. In washington, dc, the metro use has significantly plummeted things covid and how would you break plummeted things covid and how would you break that into the cake when you break that into the cake when you are you break that into the cake when you are making the cake. That is the point. You are making the cake. That is the point, sarnia, you are making the cake. That is the point, sarnia, the you are making the cake. That is the point, sarnia, the point you are making the cake. That is the point, sarnia, the point that l the point, sarnia, the point that the point, sarnia, the point that the government makes, that the Business Case for hs2 has changed post covid, people don� t travel as much, is that fair, because a lot of companies i speak to the north west when i go home, they are desperate for this line to link with the West Midlands . ,. ~ midlands . Yes, i mean, i think there is something midlands . Yes, i mean, i think there is something about midlands . Yes, i mean, i think there is something about commuting midlands . Yes, i mean, i think there is something about commuting on i midlands . Yes, i mean, i think there| is something about commuting on the pandemic and where we stand with Commuting Post Pandemic and what implications of that are for, you know, that the railways, so for example if you look at Commuter Lines going into london, there is no doubt that services have been cut because people are still commuting into london but they are commuting into london but they are commuting in less than they were before the pandemic. There are lots of people who have to work every day in an office or in service sectorjobs for example but there are lots of people doing hybrid working, but i think when it comes to looking at journeys, for example, from the north west into london and vice versa, if you� re looking at those sorts ofjourneys, i am unsure that that same logic stands up because you aren� t talking about daily commuterjourneys, you are talking about people coming to london for meetings, for example, to make Business Contacts to mull the kinds of things that would help business productivity. On the other thing that the hs2 link was supposed to help with is notjust from the sort of feeder cities, from birmingham and manchester, but they were supposed to be improved connectivity from across the north, and there is no question that businesses still place a premium on that connection, you know, into london. So i think you know, into london. So i think you are talking about something very different from the daily commute and commuter working, so not quite sure that it stacks up, really. If commuter working, so not quite sure that it stacks up, really. That it stacks up, really. If you were to look that it stacks up, really. If you were to look at that it stacks up, really. If you were to look at a that it stacks up, really. If you were to look at a theme that it stacks up, really. If you were to look at a theme that l were to look at a theme that underpins all this, it is clearly that the chancellor and number ten want to get a handle on spending, on inflation, and that on the sidelines of the Conference Today has been very much the debate, do you do that through pumping more money into the economy or do you do it by being more prudent and watching where every penny spent . Yes. More prudent and watching where every penny spent . More prudent and watching where every penny spent . Yes, i think that is a very good every penny spent . Yes, i think that is a very good way every penny spent . Yes, i think that is a very good way of every penny spent . Yes, i think that is a very good way of setting every penny spent . Yes, i think that is a very good way of setting out is a very good way of setting out that tension. The issue for the chancellor and for the Prime Minister is the whole theme of this conference was supposed to be about investing for the long term, you know, rishi sunak is a Prime Minister who is able to make long term decisions. Hs2 is kind of the quintessential long term decision, in the sense that we have already invested a huge amount of money in it. Now the chancellor and the Prime Minister are looking, reportedly, to shave off what would be a small percentage of the project to make these short term Catch Savings cash savings, yet that seems like a very, very short term decision that pulls in exactly the opposite direction of what the theme of this conference is, so i think there is a real tension here and some very confused signals being sent to voters. In some very confused signals being sent to voters. Sent to voters. In the us, the debate is sent to voters. In the us, the debate is spending sent to voters. In the us, the debate is spending is sent to voters. In the us, the debate is spending isjust sent to voters. In the us, the debate is spending isjust as l debate is spending is just as divisive, at the 11th hour on saturday, the government took the only way to avoid the. In the United States, the debate over spending and taxation is just as lively, just as devisive. At the 11th hour on satuday, the speaker Kevin Mccarthy took the only option available to avoid a Government Shutdown he turned to the democrats. The stop bill they agreed will keep the government funded at least until mid november. The us debt ceiling is 31. 4 trillion. It becomes more expensive to service that debt if the markets think you are too politically dysfunctional to get bills paid on time. How dysfunctional, that remains the bigger question. Republican matt gaetz who was blocking the resolution, says he will bring a motion to vacate the speaker� s chair later this week. It is becoming increasingly clear who the speaker of the house already works for, and it� s not the republican conference. Mr speaker, i would ask that these questions be answered soon, because there may be other votes coming today or later this week that could be implicated by the answers to these questions. Members of the Republican Party might vote differently on a motion to vacate if they heard what the speaker had to share with us about his secret side deal Withjoe Biden on ukraine. Mccarthy says he is confident he can hang on. Gaetz would likely need the vast majority of democrats to vote with him to get rid of mccarthy. But it� s likely the democrats in Swing Districts will side with mccarthy, for a price. If you win on a motion to vacate, do you think that silences this block of people who held up the floor, frustrated your conference . Do you kinda want to win that to prove this point . Look, i want to win the vote so i can finish the job for the american people. There are certain people who have done this from the day we came in. I want to be a conservative that shows how to govern. I think that is important to the country, i think that is important to the party, and most important to get this job done. Carry, i think i� ve explained why this is so important. If Interest Rates go up in the United States, that has a knock on effect on world markets, Belittle The Function in washington does count, so what happens next . Political dysfunction in washington. Just seeinu dysfunction in washington. Just seeing the dysfunction in washington. Just seeing the snp. You are right that if the dysfunction continues, there could very well be a downgrade which would into a Stash Increase our Interest Payments even more, so in terms of the ethos of what matt gaetz is trying to do, i respect that he was to hold the line on spending, approaching 33 trillion in debt is completely unsustainable, our Interest Payments are going to be crowding out our discretionary payments very soon, but at the same time i believe that he� s taken around action here and i think he� s only going to help the democrats politically and in the end he is only going to wound the Republican Party, he is going to wound Speaker Mccarthy comedy believe Speaker Mccarthy comedy believe Speaker Mccarthy will come on top sol mccarthy comedy believe Speaker Mccarthy will come on top so i think this whole action is fairly meaningless because matt gaetz is not living in the real world, the Republican Party only controls the house, they do not control the senate and i do not control the white house so if matt gaetz wants things to change, he needs to not alienate voters and he needs to get more republicans in the senate and in the white house. In the white house. Obviously, the United States in the white house. Obviously, the United States is in the white house. Obviously, the United States is a in the white house. Obviously, the United States is a lot in the white house. Obviously, the United States is a lot further in the white house. Obviously, the United States is a lot further in United States is a lot further in the project to tackle inflation than we are here in the uk but there are some similarities that we are starting to see, there are a lot of unions looking for better pay at the moment, there is a wage spiral under way, there is a huge debate, as we have just been discussing, about the infrastructure, the Inflation Reduction and in the Infrastructure Thatjoe Biden wants to pump into the economy, dc similar themes in the economy, dc similar themes in the political divisions in our two countries . Sorry, let me bring in cary again. Countries . Sorry, let me bring in cary again cary again. Yes, i certainly think absolutely. Cary again. Yes, i certainly think absolutely, and cary again. Yes, i certainly think absolutely, and even cary again. Yes, i certainly think absolutely, and even to cary again. Yes, i certainly think absolutely, and even to the absolutely, and even to the infrastructure conversation, the fastest infrastructure conversation, the fastest way to become a millionaire is to be fastest way to become a millionaire is to be a fastest way to become a millionaire is to be a billionaire and invest in a railway~ is to be a billionaire and invest in a railway~ i is to be a billionaire and invest in a railway. Ithink is to be a billionaire and invest in a railway. I think so often, public money a railway. I think so often, Public Money In a railway. I think so often, Public Money In the public purse is used for wasteful projects, we call it here for wasteful projects, we call it here in for wasteful projects, we call it here in the us, in alaska it was the internet here in the us, in alaska it was the internet which were nowhere, project ust internet which were nowhere, project just for internet which were nowhere, project just for the internet which were nowhere, project just for the sake of projects, in many just for the sake of projects, in many respects, and so i do see echoes many respects, and so i do see echoes of many respects, and so i do see echoes of that across the pond and i do think echoes of that across the pond and i do think that inflation has been a global do think that inflation has been a global problem, in part, there were supply global problem, in part, there were supply chain issues but i think there supply chain issues but i think there is supply chain issues but i think there is a supply chain issues but i think there is a massive overreaction to covid there is a massive overreaction to covid in there is a massive overreaction to covid in part there is a massive overreaction to covid in part because of the massive fear that covid in part because of the massive fear that gripped governments to pass these just mindless inflationary packages that here in the us, inflationary packages that here in the us, we found that one out of every the us, we found that one out of every seven or 8 went to fraud. He will talk every seven or 8 went to fraud. He will talk about hundreds of billions of dollars will talk about hundreds of billions of dollars going into the pockets of scanners of dollars going into the pockets of scanners that our taxpayers are going scanners that our taxpayers are going to scanners that our taxpayers are going to be paying for generations. That is going to be paying for generations. That is a going to be paying for generations. That is a really good point because thatis that is a really good point because that is what the chancellor has been talk about today, with his big capital projects, you have to factor in that we had furlough, we had covid, we had ukraine, we had the Energy Bill Crisis that we put money into, something has to give. Yes. Into, something has to give. Yes, but the question into, something has to give. Yes, but the question is into, something has to give. Yes, but the question is what into, something has to give. Us but the question is what else would you do . Yes, they should have been less fraud when it came to for example payments to support businesses, to help during covid, we can deftly say that about the uk but at the same time, the treasury did have to get a lot of money out of the door very quickly and they were always going to be issued without any alternative was to lead businesses to go under and the people to live in extreme hardship because they didn� t have a wage, because they didn� t have a wage, because their business couldn� t afford to pay them, so it is a question of priorities, quite frankly. Yes, there may be a price to pay eventually, in terms of the public debt, but i think the government took executive right decisions around furlough. I think there are seven iswould similarities between the us and the uk, in terms of political divisions and splits in the right, and i think we can see that in terms of the us Republican Party, these divisions are recurring at the moment over how the speaker should be handling the passing of this bill to prevent the Government Shutdown. There is a lot of recrimination and backlash in the Republican Party, you know, donald trump is an incredibly divisive president ial candidate for the Republican Party, had over here in the uk, we can see some of those divisions, too, if you look at the Conservative Party there are different factions that are warring with each other on issues such as climate change. Rishi sunak, as Prime Minister, has got a Really Difficultjob In M peeling his party with a sense of unity because quite frankly for the Conservative Party here in the uk, when it looks like so many mps believe they are unlikely to win the next election, actually, Party Loyalty kind of goes out the window because mps start thinking, what is the point in telling the party line when we disagree with it . Taste telling the party line when we disagree with it . Telling the party line when we disauree with it . ~. ,. Disagree with it . We will talk about that as later disagree with it . We will talk about that as later in disagree with it . We will talk about that as later in the disagree with it . We will talk about that as later in the programme disagree with it . We will talk about that as later in the programme but| that as later in the programme but sadly some interesting things going on in the fringe event this afternoon. I want to show you pictures of this breaking story, in casson ten, to the north west of oxford, you can see it is an enormous explosion. We believe that the seven Trent Green Power Plant which is a Food Recycling Centre was hit by lightning, the explosion was caused by biogas tank igniting, reportedly. Currently no reports of injuries, Emergency Services are on the same. But a blast that lit up the night sky tonight. We will try to get you more on that through the course of the programme. Around the world and across the uk. This is bbc news. Let� s look at some other stories making news. Thames Valley Police confirm they� re investigating harassment and stalking allegations against the comedian Russell Brand made by a woman living in the area. It follows a joint investigation by the sunday times, the times and channel 4� s dispatches in which four women accused mr brand of sexual assaults and rape. He denies the claims. A Police Investigation into emad al swealmeen, who detonated a bomb outside liverpool women� s hospital in november 2021, had a grievance against the state for failing to accept his asylum claim. That, combined with mental ill health, is likely to have led him to carry out the attack. Emad al swealmeen was killed in the blast, which injured one other person. A bbc tv presenter says her eyesight has been saved by a routine check up. Injune, bbc wales� s lucy owen told her optician she had noticed white flashes in her right eye. He said her retina was in the process of detaching and booked her in, for an emergency operation. Her vision returned and she has resumed presenting. You� re live with bbc news. Donald trump appeared in person today at the opening of a civil trial in new york in which he, his sons eric and donjr are accused by new York Attorney general Letitia James of significantly inflating mr trump� s net worth to get bank loans, and at other times lowering the value of those same properties to avoid tax. The argument about whether fraud was committed is over. All that� s at issue how hefty the Penalty Trump will be. The attorney general is seeking 250 million. There is no jury in this trial. The man mr trump must convince is the judge arthur engoron. So you mightjust question the wisdom of attacking the judge on the way into court. So we won the case in the appelate division. And this judge refuses to acknowledge the appelate division, meaning he has contempt for his own court system. Nobody has ever seen that before. He refuses to even talk about it or acknowledge it. And the attorney general is a total corrupt, she� s a corrupt person. A terrible person. Driving people out of new york, number one. That is number one. Number two, wejust came out a few minutes ago, people that do this agree with us 100 that they say thejudge is wrong. Thejudge is wrong in his ruling. Judge engoron opened the proceedings after allowing cameras in to court to document the scene. As you can see, donald trump sat there arms folded, flanked by his legal team, throngs of reporters and spectators in the gallery. The opening exchanges did not bode well for the trump organisation. One thing i know a lot about, said thejudge, is the Legal Definition of fraud. The president is right about one thing he said this afternoon, cary, that every time he appears in court and is charged, and there are 91 indictments on the list, his poll numbers go up. Indictments on the list, his poll numbers go un indictments on the list, his poll numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating trend. Numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating trend. I numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating trend. I think numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating trend. I think it numbers go up. Yes, it is a very fascinating trend. I think it gets| fascinating trend. I think it gets to a deeper court issue. There is a Political Science scientist in the United States who wrote a book called The Righteous Mind looks into the core values of being a because progressive and conservative. One of the core values of what it means to be conservative is the value of loyalty so when tramp is attacked, it actually activates this conservative value, in part because we did Cms Carriage Ofjustice as relates to the trump history. For example, our doj, there was announcement that there was fraud committed by the doj to alter an e mail in order to obtain a warrant to servile the trump campaign, that is shocking to have your own doj to do that. And then also for example the hunter biden laptop story. Dozens and dozens of supposedly Foreign Policy experts signed a letter to say this as signature russian disinformation, only to have that Story Suppressed by twitter and other Media Outlets and then be verified as the legitimate. Brute other Media Outlets and then be verified as the legitimate. We are still waiting verified as the legitimate. We are still waiting for verified as the legitimate. We are still waiting for the verified as the legitimate. We are still waiting for the evidence verified as the legitimate. We are still waiting for the evidence on still waiting for the evidence on that though, carrie, as you might have seen when we have the other Committee Hearing the other day. I want to focus on the doj. The attorney general Merrick Garland said on sunday he would resign ifjoe biden ever asked him to take legal action against donald trump. But he doesn� t believe he would ever be put in that position. The attorney general defended the independence and integrity of the justice department. But what was far more interesting was his response when he was asked what damage this was doing. The attorney general Merrick Garland said on sunday he would resign well, i feel it for a number of reasons and a number of things that ive seen. But for my own family, who fled religious persecution in europe, and some members who did not. Survive when they got to the United States. United states protected them. It guaranteed that they could practice their religion, they could vote, they could do all the things they thought a democracy would provide. Thats the difference between this country and many other countries, and its my responsibility, its the justice departments responsibility, to ensure that that difference continues, that we protect each other. Really interesting theme which the Biden Administration picked up in arizona last week. Obviously he is under a lot of pressure and he sees that in the context of his only Family Experience and the persecution his family witnessed at the hands of the nazi but i wondered if that emotion that he showed there was a tale for how much pressure he is under. The left think he should have gone quicker, the right think he is biased against donald trump, and he� s the man in the middle. Yeah, when i think it speaks to how polarised American Politics is at the moment. Donald trump is the ultimate symbol of that so you� ve got some people who believe he should have won the election and that the election was stolen from him, and then you� ve got the, and a pc that is not true, and then you� ve got people who see him as a symbol of everything that is wrong in American Politics, so there is a huge polarisation so i think if you running ajustice huge polarisation so i think if you running a justice department, huge polarisation so i think if you running ajustice department, you� ve got to try and rise above it and be seen to be fair and impartial and thatis seen to be fair and impartial and that is a trickyjob. Seen to be fair and impartial and that is a tricky job. Seen to be fair and impartial and that is a tricky job. That is a tricky ob. Listen, we are auoin to that is a tricky ob. Listen, we are going to go that is a tricky ob. Listen, we are going to go to that is a tricky job. Listen, we are going to go to a that is a tricky job. Listen, we are going to go to a break, that is a tricky job. Listen, we are going to go to a break, do that is a tricky job. Listen, we are going to go to a break, do stay i that is a tricky job. Listen, we are l going to go to a break, do stay with us, we are going to be right back and talk about an extraordinary thing on the internet, a version of tom hanks that is not tom hanks, another of those deep fakes from artificial intelligence, and we will discuss it. Stay with us. Hi there, good evening. It� s been another day of contrasts across the uk still warm for the time of year with some of the best of the sunshine today across areas of scotland and Northern Ireland, but also a good scattering of showers here. Misty, murky, still humid further south, with outbreaks of rain, but fresher feeling conditions developing across the board tomorrow. There� ll be some sunny spells, but again, some showers heaviest and most frequent towards the north and the west. Now, today� s showery outbreaks of rain across england and wales were courtesy of this warm front, pulling out into the north sea overnight tonight, followed by a cold front that will sweep away the humidity and the air. But still, we� re likely to see a few more thunderstorms perhaps across east anglia for a time tonight, then it will turn a lot drier. Showers fizzling out as they track the way further eastward, some of the coolest of the conditions across northeast scotland again, a chilly start here to tomorrow morning, but for most, it� s still mild for this time in october. Now tomorrow, after that initial hangback of cloud clears away from eastern counties, then we� re likely to see more sunshine develop. Sunny spells, but then some showers tracking eastwards on a Brisk Westerly to northwesterly wind again, they� re likely to be heaviest out towards Western Areas of scotland and Northern Ireland. Temperatures are lower, peaking between the mid to high teens in celsius, but again, that� s slightly above the seasonal average. And that� s probably it, in terms of rainfall for the south of the uk for the rest of the week, because High Pressure starts to build in from the south as we head through tuesday and into wednesday. So it� s likely to be a dry, rather cool night here, milderfurther north. This is where we think the rain will probably be on wednesday, most likely to be heavy, i think, across southWestern Areas of scotland. There are localised Weather Warnings in force, so most of the rain again towards the north and the west, temperatures on a par with tuesday� s. Brighter and drier the further south and east you are and that� s also true on wednesday into thursday, too. Again, there� ll be further Weather Fronts pushing in from the southwest. The temperatures won� t get much past the high teens in celsius, but that is set to change as we head into the weekend. We start to draw in some very warm air from the south, with that High Pressure building in from europe. So temperatures are likely to rise across the board. Here� s the outlook for our Capital Cities so by the time we get to saturday, temperatures in much of scotland could be in the low 20s, also true for Northern Ireland and wales. Mid 20s further south and east. Bye bye. Hello, i� m christian fraser. You� re watching the context on bbc news. How do we tell the difference between the real tom hanks and the one the virtual tom hanks that is out there selling dental plans . Another example ofjust how sophisticated these deep fakes are becoming. Away from the tory Party Conference today. Away from the tory Party Conference today. Nhs bosses are Warning Patients to expect extreme disruption at hospitals this week, as Junior Doctors and consultants begin a three dayjoint walkout here in england. Nhs england said the strike that began this morning will bring non Emergency Care to a near standstill. It is more than 100 days since the Health Secretary sat down with leaders of the union for pay talks none are planned for the future. Consultants are being offered 6 , Junior Doctors an average ofjust under 9 , depending on their level. The cost of this strike to Th Uk Economy is now stretching over a billion pounds. In fact, on the front page of the times this morning was a report that some nhs trusts are now spending £7900 a day to those consultants who will agree to cover strike action. Professor nora colton is the director of the ucl Global Business school of health