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Rocha wrote in the letter. I spoke a short while ago to the goat, he gave me his reaction after that. , that. Good , the female players not to join that. Good , the female players not to join the that. Good , the female players not to join the national that. Good , the female players not to join the National Side that. Good , the female players not to join the National Side as not to join the National Side as long as the organisation doesnt change, they werentjust long as the organisation doesnt change, they werent just asking for ruby alice to go, they were asking for the manager to go, and for many things to be transformed, to be organised. It looks like the temporary press of the federation at least in words, is trying to do that too, that was the easiest part but the secretary of the federation is still there close to ruby ellis 10 one. You have to start somewhere in the context of the whole situation, you have to go back a few years, remember Spain National players they play for some of the biggest clubs in the world. The National Side, biggest clubs in the world. The nationalside, it biggest clubs in the world. The National Side, it wasnt professional enough. There was no Video Analysis of the game for instance, and much more. Then 15 of the players said we are not going to join the National Side any more, at the end of the world cup you described the situation, what happened, this social tsunami that required change, meant that rubiales could be pushed away by fifa but he was the first to do so. Are could be pushed away by fifa but he was the first to do so. Was the first to do so. Are you surprised was the first to do so. Are you surprised it took was the first to do so. Are you surprised it took so was the first to do so. Are you surprised it took so long . Was the first to do so. Are you i surprised it took so long . Private institution with surprised it took so long . Private institution with public surprised it took so long . Private institution with Public Interest surprised it took so long . Private | institution with Public Interest and public money, unless the government moves the strings very well, not even the government, they tried through the administrative tribunal of the sport and they failed, they failed to actually get the offences that rubiales had did, described as very offence. It wasnt, the tribunal said, serious, very offence. It wasnt, the tribunalsaid, serious, meaning very offence. It wasnt, the tribunal said, serious, meaning they could not push him out. The hope for everyone is that fifa during the suspension period, actually find him guilty and get rid of him. But because its a private institution things take time. Quite clearly, the man in charge even though he was fully charged by ruby ellis, he read the room much better than ruby ellis. He said we need to change. You said in yourfirst ellis. He said we need to change. You said in your first answer it has triggered a social tsunami, is that just blowing away what has existed for decades within spanish sport, perhaps white or Spanish Society . Spanish society, i would even describe them as feminist, because otherwise we have some of the most protective laws protecting women. Key parts of spain, very public parts of spain, very famous parts of spain like the federation, run by men. Men who have been there for a long while, men who get paid by the association. In that kind of environment there are. The tribunal could not get rid of rubiales it means that something is wrong. Theres going to be a lot of push for change, but changed really has to come from within. Lets believe that they are going to do that. ~ , believe that they are going to do that. � , believe that they are going to do that. , that. When he says hes ashamed by what has happened, that. When he says hes ashamed by what has happened, those that. When he says hes ashamed by what has happened, those actions, i that. When he says hes ashamed by| what has happened, those actions, in a sense you are saying that its on the record, its got to go further, its got to go to the roots, actually the makeup even of the federation before they see real change. Federation before they see real chance. � ,. , federation before they see real chance. � ,. , � ,. , change. Theres no way its not auoin to change. Theres no way its not going to change. Change. Theres no way its not going to change, i change. Theres no way its not going to change, i cant change. Theres no way its not going to change, i cant see. Change. Theres no way its not. Going to change, i cant see that change. Theres no way its not going to change, i cant see that in any other way, that is opinion, not a fact. But i think when you have the president of spain demanding change, their ministry, secretary of sport, even the opposition, the parties at the opposition of the Socialist Party in charge, they are all asking for change. It has to happen. But yes it does require time. Youve got the fa, im sorry, the fifa, State Prosecutor trying to get rid of 10 one, then change matters as well, quite clearly this is something that not only. Thats a real mess, are you surprised only. Thats a real mess, are you surprised they only. Thats a real mess, are you surprised they havent only. Thats a real mess, are you surprised they havent got only. Thats a real mess, are you surprised they havent got more i surprised they havent got more actively involved . He suspended an a , actively involved . He suspended anyway. But actively involved . He suspended anyway. But it actively involved . He suspended anyway, but it would actively involved . He suspended anyway, but it would have actively involved . He suspended anyway, but it would have been| actively involved . He suspended| anyway, but it would have been a really good message to put out there to say what he has done is wrong, and we havent heard that strongly enough. So yeah, they should step on this big course that we are all on and try to protect women. Improve the conditions. He and try to protect women. Improve the conditions. And try to protect women. Improve the conditions. He was talking to me ust a the conditions. He was talking to me just a short the conditions. He was talking to me just a short while the conditions. He was talking to me just a short while ago. Lets head to birmingham, lets head to our correspondent, this is a dramatic situation alex. What does it mean in real terms for people there in the city . It mean in real terms for people there in the city . Well what this means that. There in the city . Well what this means that, effective there in the city . Well what this l means that, effective bankruptcy, this is the council saying they cannot balance their books. In terms of the services they provide, counsel � s have a duty to provide certain services. Recycling services, make each of the roads are safe, that kind of thing. This kind of things will continue, but for Everything Else the council does, they are now going to take a look at it and look out where they can save money, what they are effectively saying is we cannot afford to keep doing what were doing. There is a particular set of circumstances here in birmingham, the council has a big outstanding bill for equal pay claims and it also has problems with an it system which it tried to introduce and the bill for that has spiral. There are questions over the way that the local authority has managed its finances, but the bottom line is at this point the council is going to have to sit down in the next few weeks, look at everything and look at what it has to keep spending money on and what its not going to spend money on any more. They of course are not the only council in difficult conditions, but in terms of any sort of bailout from the national government, what is being said about that . Itruieiiii the national government, what is being said about that . Being said about that . Well it doesnt being said about that . Well it doesnt look being said about that . Well it doesnt look like being said about that . Well it doesnt look like its being said about that . Well it. Doesnt look like its forthcoming at the moment, its increase the funding for Birmingham City council this year and next year and in fact the funding available to councils across england this year and next year and they saying its up to councils to budget responsibly. Local authorities were hit really hard during the period of austerity and even though they are finding that the monday available money available for them to spend, the cost for providing services as well as the demand for the services has increased as well, there are lots of local authorities right across england morning that they are facing shortfalls. That doesnt mean theyll end up in the situation that Birmingham City council has found themselves in, but the governing needs to look again at the way councils are funded to make sure services can continue in the long term, the services that a lot of people rely on our more sustainable. Well have more on the story and about half an hour. Lets turn to the war in ukraine because a high level, and high stakes meeting could happen this month, between north koreas leader according to us officials, kimjong unis expected to make kimjong un and russian president vladimir putin. According to us officials, kimjong unis expected to make a rare visit overseas and discuss the possibility of north korea providing moscow with weapons, to support its war in ukraine. The exact location of the planned meeting is not clear. In a statement, Us National Security officials say, that Arms Negotiations between russia and north korea are actively advancing. But when asked about this possible summit, the kremlin spokesman said, he had nothing to say on this. And couldnt confirm the meeting. Sean, what is their reading of this meeting and how twitchy are they . The us, if it is ever twitchy, is not public about their twitchy debts. The linkage that theyve used in this case is actually quite laid back considering what it could be. It sends a very firm message. The white house through the National Security spokespeople and also the state department, in the United States has urged north korea directly not to sell weapons to russia. Theyve used a pretty key military term, diplomatic term, they warned that United Nations Security Resolutions would be breached if they do sell arms to russia to be used in the ukraine. Now what, what i would say that language, i dont Think Kimjong un i would say that language, i dont think kim jong un and north i would say that language, i dont Think Kimjong un and north korea are particularly worried. What they are particularly worried. What they are more worried about is more sanctions at a time when food and supplies are low. Sanctions at a time when food and supplies are low. Thanks very much for the latest supplies are low. Thanks very much for the latest there supplies are low. Thanks very much for the latest there from for the latest there from washington, well keep an eye on that story if there is any more from various briefings from the white house, well obviously return to that. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Lets look at some other stories making news. A Mid Bedfordshire by election, has been called for the 19th Of October after conservative mp Nadine Dorries resigned. The former culture secretary, ms dorries was elected five times in the historically safe seat. Despite that, both the labour party and the Liberal Democrats hope to take the seat with the government trailing in the polls. 200 women in the uk who claim they were left in pain after having a permanent Contraceptive Device fitted have been given the go ahead to take a Group Legal Action against the manufacturer. The essure coil, made by the German Company bayer, was withdrawn from sale in 2017. The manufacturer says it will defend itself vigorously. An original proof of harry potter and the philosophers stone that was discovered at a Primary School could be worth thousands of pounds. The book was found at st kenelms Primary School in oxford. It was bought for £1 in 1997. It is expected to fetch up to £20,000 at auction. Youre live with bbc news. On monday we reported on how Family Court Rulings have led to dozens of children being forced into having contact with fathers who have been accused of abuse. Today, we have a Special Report on how some mothers who feel they have been failed by the Justice System have fled abroad, taking their children with them. They all claim they were victims of Domestic Abuse, and were offered no legal protections. Many of the mothers went to turkish controlled northern cyprus. We should warn you you may find parts of this report from our Special Correspondent ed thomas distressing. Victims of Domestic Violence. I was raped. Family court just didnt listen. Hidden, and on the run. If id stayed in england, id be dead. It was state sanctioned abuse. For the first time, mothers who fled uk Family Courts, abducting their children, tell their stories. I was abused by that court, as well as my husband. When i left him, there was a campaign of abuse. I was stalked. I was harassed. Rose not her real name was the first to tell her story. My daughter, shed come back with bruises, all documented. And when your child says, mummy, daddys hurting me, it breaks you. Roses Story Highlights complex family court cases. Her partner was never convicted of a crime, but weve seen multiple Police Reports written at the time that said she was at risk of Domestic Abuse. I was referred to victim support. I broke court orders on the advice of the police, but the court wanted contact at all costs. Rose has never been accused of physically harming her child, but she was accused of alienating her ex. The court said, if you dont send your child, were going to remove her. And they did. The concept parental alienation is controversial. There are calls for it to be banned. And weve learnt the government is investigating its use in our Family Courts. We cant move from here. We are safe, but in a type of prison. And rose isnt alone. Weve been told dozens of women, victims of Domestic Abuse, have fled uk Family Courts, and many are now hiding in turkish controlled northern cyprus. We made the same journey to ask why. Id face bursts of anger. Thats when alarm bells started to go off. Id be manhandled, left full of bruises. In all, i made about 50 separate phone calls to the police. This mum were calling suzanne fled after a decade of family court hearings. I was in and out of court all the time, it got so bad. Over 120 appearances. The bbc has seen multiple Police Reports detailing Domestic Abuse against suzanne. I was going to have a breakdown. I was literally screaming in my head. Health professionals said she was suffering trauma, but suzanne was accused of alienation. I was not listened to. My child was not listened to. It was state sanctioned abuse. Some of the mothers risk prosecution for child abduction. Some have had their Bank Accounts frozen, and been placed on interpol no fly lists. Hi, are you 0k . We spent months building up trust to tell their stories. So, thats another mother. Shes really, really nervous. She is frightened, and she doesnt know whether or not shes going to speak to us. Those who did open up to us would only speak anonymously, and if we changed their voices. I was handing my child to an abuser. I couldnt do it any more. This mother says her child became suicidal. The judge made the decision that i was parental alienating him from his dad. I was told i was the abuser. But should you have stayed in england . I had to go. I watched my sons childhood disappear. The women who ive met here, who have fled from the uk, are terrified. Mina atla is a Turkish Cypriot lawyer, who represents many Domestic Abuse victims. These women are being failed in their countries. They need to be offered some kind of amnesty, and there needs to be a path to safety for these women and their children. She says many are running from allegations of parental alienation. Its not child abduction, its not parental alienation, its Domestic Violence, its child abuse. Many of the mothers we spoke to acknowledged theyve broken the law. Its so difficult. I left my family, my friends. Ive lost everything. After suffering years of coercive control, this mum said the family court became an extension of that abuse. The court should be trying to understand why women give up everything to flee, just to protect the kids. The basic need of a child is to be protected, and we cant even do that in the uk. The Domestic Abuse commissioner said the cases uncovered by the bbc were harrowing, and there was a need for urgent reform of the Family Courts. In response to our report, the government said its investigating the use of parental alienation, but that it takes International Child abduction very seriously. Ed thomas, bbc news. Lets now speak to ruth dineen, International Coordinator of Hague Mothers, which is an organisation addresses the injustices which arose from the Hague Convention on International Child abduction. Welcome here to the programme, just your snapshot reaction to that report youve just seen. Your snapshot reaction to that report youve just seen. Report youve ust seen. Well, its shocking, report youve just seen. Well, its shocking, terrifying, report youve just seen. Well, its shocking, terrifying, horrifying, i shocking, terrifying, horrifying, but frankly we werent surprised by it. Because we receive e mails every day from loving mothers who are being actively prevented from giving themselves and their children safe. Whether by Family Courts or the hague chords which are associated with them, and i think a big question is why are we forcing mums into this situation . Lets face it, leaving your home, yourfamily, your job is an act of absolute desperation and mothers will only take it if they feel they have no other option. Irate take it if they feel they have no other option take it if they feel they have no other option. Take it if they feel they have no other otion. ~. ,. , other option. We heard a lawyer in that iece other option. We heard a lawyer in that piece say. Other option. We heard a lawyer in that piece say, it other option. We heard a lawyer in that piece say, it is other option. We heard a lawyer in that piece say, it is not other option. We heard a lawyer in that piece say, it is not abduction. | that piece say, it is not abduction. Do you think it is . I dont think its abduction, well that is to say, according to the hague coat Abduction Convention its abduction because simply if you take a child across International Borders without permission from the other parent regardless of the reason, it is abduction. But thats where the fault line lies. The hague in Abduction Convention was originally intended to safeguard children, safeguard the primary care, it was considered that fathers would be the ones taking children abroad. That convention itself is now being turned against mothers and in 75 of cases, parental, in 75 of cases they Hague Convention is being brought against mothers by fathers. What prospect do you think there is if any, of any sort of reform around this . , � , if any, of any sort of reform around this . � ,. ,. ,. , this . Thats the milliondollar question. This . Thats the milliondollar question. We this . Thats the milliondollar question, we have this . Thats the milliondollar question, we have found this . Thats the milliondollar question, we have found in i this . Thats the milliondollarl question, we have found in the this . Thats the milliondollar question, we have found in the past that the commission appears to be uninterested in what happens to children after theyve been returned. Whether the mothers go or not. So they dont follow up, theres very little in the way of statistics or evidence. They are simply concerned with carrying out the Convention Regulations and doing it as swiftly as possible. So its kind of a summary process, they dont look into the context at all, or very little, and they simply send the child back. And the mother, if she wants to continue to protect the child, goes with them. And thats where the problems really escalate. We are doing a number of things, we are working with lots of other anger nor organisations including Hague Mothers themselves and lawyers and advocates, and indeed the Un Special Violence Against Women and girls. Try to influence the Hague Committee when they meet to actually take this seriously. We are asking that they acknowledge that Domestic Violence is a key component in these cases, and secondly, we are asking them to put together a Working Group which will include victims of the hague Abduction Convention to see how they can safeguard mothers and children. That meeting is going to happen in october so it is a story to watch. 0ctober so it is a story to watch. Thank you very much forjoining us here on bbc news, thank you. One more story to squeeze in this half hour. Former liverpool captain Jordan Henderson says his move to the Saudi Arabian pro league was never about making more money. The 33 year old joined al ettifaq and earns live now to david 0rnstein, Football Correspondent at the athletic. David, welcome here, agreed to talk to you. Its a top line that he feels hurt by the criticism, tell me what he told you. What he told you. Adam craft is a member of what he told you. Adam craft is a member of the what he told you. Adam craft is a member of the lgbt what he told you. Adam craft is a member of the lgbt q what he told you. Adam craft is a i member of the lgbt q community. What he told you. Adam craft is a member of the lgbt q community. With its stance on his community and Jordan Henderson has stood up and put his head above the parapet as probably the most vocal supporter of lgbtq rights. There is disappointment on the behalf of that community who really feel betrayed any large part, having conducted the interview myself, he did come across as sincere and genuine, he thinks hes going to saudi arabia to bring about positive change. He insists the move is not solely motivated by money. The move is not solely motivated by mone. Y the move is not solely motivated by mone ,. ,. The move is not solely motivated by mone. ,. Money. Sorry to cut across you, that will be the money. Sorry to cut across you, that will be the fundamental money. Sorry to cut across you, that will be the fundamental criticism, i will be the fundamental criticism, youve seen it on social media that this is a mega money deal and that is the criticism, that money has trumped principal. find is the criticism, that money has trumped principal. Trumped principal. And that is something trumped principal. And that is something that trumped principal. And that is something that he trumped principal. And that is something that he will trumped principal. And that is something that he will have. Trumped principal. And that is| something that he will have to accept. He denied that his salary is as high as has been reported at £700,000 a week, but it will still be a significant uplift on what he was earning at liverpool and he might not have gotten that elsewhere. He conceded in the interview that money played a significant part but not the sole factor in his decision to go there. He said he felt excited by the diarrhoea of trying to grow the game in saudi arabia, to see whats happened the summer. fin in saudi arabia, to see whats happened the summer. On the screen as we are talking, happened the summer. On the screen as we are talking, is happened the summer. On the screen as we are talking, is the as we are talking, is the captain with the rainbow arm bent, he supported the rainbow laces campaign. When the saudi released footage of him as he signed, that armband had been grayed out, had to . He said he was not aware of that having happened when the signature for the Football Club had happen. We askedif for the Football Club had happen. We asked if he would wear the armband in saudi arabia and he wouldnt rule it out, but if it was deemed to insult the religion and culture than he wouldnt. We know thats a comp located issue because there is a Lgbtq Community of individuals within saudi arabia who know their way of life is illegal and criminalised and could pele face the death penalty. Jordan henderson had a choice, do i speak, do i not. He felt he should speak. Now that he spoken, many feel damned if you do, damned if you dont. Many feel he shouldnt have spoken. I damned if you dont. Many feel he shouldnt have spoken. Damned if you dont. Many feel he shouldnt have spoken. I know some of those groups shouldnt have spoken. I know some of those groups dont shouldnt have spoken. I know some of those groups dont accept shouldnt have spoken. I know some of those groups dont accept the i of those groups dont accept the ends explanation either, but david, thank you so much for being here on the programme. Spain have appointed theirfirst female coach the programme. Spain have appointed their first female coach to replace. Deputy coach since 2018, so a very significant move made by the spanish fa. You are watching. Hello. There was another hot day today, particularly across central and southern parts of the uk. It looks like temperatures will build further over the next few days. The peak of the heat wednesday and thursday and will also see the humidity increasing as well. And thats going to make it feel a bit more uncomfortable, both day and night. 0ur area of High Pressure sitting over scandinavia is drawing up the heat from the near continent. Low pressure sits out towards the west. Were drawing this heat up from france, mainly where were seeing some pretty high temperatures at the moment. Now, as we head through the evening and overnight period, it looks like more extensive low cloud, mist and fog will roll into parts of eastern scotland, eastern england, maybe around the irish sea coast as well. Elsewhere, its going to be largely clear and dry and quite a muggy night developing particularly towards southern counties. Wednesday then we start off with an early mist and fog. Low cloud across eastern areas will tend to burn back to the coast. It could linger across some eastern coast of scotland, but its a dry, sunny day for most of us, and a hot one. England and wales high 20s widely could be up to 32 celsius or so across the south east. Mid 20s there for scotland, northern ireland. As you move through wednesday night, theres a chance we could see some showers and thunderstorms moving through central and Western Areas, though most places will stay dry again with clear skies. But its going to be a warm and a muggy night. Pretty uncomfortable for sleeping across parts of england and wales into thursday. Then a bit of a difference. We will see the chance of further thundery showers out towards Western Areas in response to the high humidity. But i think for most thursday its going to be another dry and sunny warm with temperatures again reaching the 30 celsius mark or so across southern areas, but again, mid to high 20s, widely across england and wales. Friday, a similar story, a bit of a misty start, that mist melting away quickly and then its going to be dry. Plenty of sunshine again. Chance of some thundery showers out west, particularly for northern ireland. But again, you can see its going to be another hot day, high 20s for many, again, 30s or low 30s across some south eastern areas into the weekend, low pressure starts to edge in a bit closer to the uk, so destabilises the atmosphere for northern and Western Areas. So this is where wed like to see the temperatures start falling, increasing chance of showers or thunderstorms, but it stays hot and sunny for most of england and wales this weekend. Its not until we get into next week, things start to cool down. Welcome to bbc news. Lets turn to our main headlines. The spanish fa hasjust appointed its our main headlines. The spanish fa has just appointed its first ever female coach of the Womens National team, montse tome. That comes after jorge vilda, the spain was not World Cup Winning Team coach was sacked following the Luis Rubiales kiss scandal. Laughing gas will be made illegal by the end of the year and be classed as a class c drug. Possession makaria sentence of up to two years in prison. Possession will carry. I bespeak to the Bird Photographer of the year competition winner. All of that is coming up in the coming minutes. Lets round up for the sport for the day, here is sarah mulkerrins. We start with developments in spain where its been announced that the wolrd cup winning coach jorge vilde has been sacked. It comes amid ongoing controversy surrounding the head of the spanish fa rules will be ahlez who was criticised for kissing Jenni Hermoso after the final, he had been provisionally suspended by fifa, the world governing body of the sport. Most of the team had resigned and refused to play for spain in the aftermath. There had been concerns over the regime ofjorge vilda, they were reported to have been a key factor in 15 spanish players refusing to play for the