People to be in court for those key moments. We have also been told that there were reports that she wont be in Court On Monday for the sentencing, and that has raised further questions, too, about ways and means to compel people to be in court for those crucial moments such as sentencing, such as hearing victim impact statements. All those questions for the future. I want to go now to. My colleague, Health CorrespondentDominic Hughes at countess of Chester Hospital. An update from the Health Minister and tell us what its going to cover. � ,. ,. , and tell us what its going to cover. � ,. ,. ,. ,. , ~ and tell us what its going to cover. � ,. ,. ,. ,. ,. , cover. Its going to look into and a susect cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is going cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is going to cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is going to be cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is going to be really cover. Its going to look into and a suspect is going to be really deep| suspect is going to be really deep dive into the circumstances around the terrible events of them forwarded here at the countess of chester. I suspect the key part of thatis chester. I suspect the key part of that is going to be why the concerns of that group of consulting paediatricians over lucy letby it over the deaths in their unit in which they worked were not taken seriously and were not acted upon by management. I suspect that is going to be a central feature of the inquiry. One interesting point about the inquiries that is not a statutory inquiry but a public one. It will not be a big hillsboro inquiry. People will not be compelled to give evidence. The reason for that are they tend to be more flexible and they tend to be able to produce answers a bit more quickly and a bit quicker and also, the Secretary Of State is made very clear that he wants the families to be absolutely, those affected, he wants them to be absolutely essential to the framing of the questions the inquiry will set forward. Im not sure well be clear yet on who will bring it forward but i think the signs are they wanted to provide answers to some of those very difficult questions about why those concerns were not taken seriously and how this social situation was able to develop the first place they want those answers pretty quickly. First place they want those answers pretty quickly first place they want those answers pretty quickly. What about the other areas that i mentioned pretty quickly. What about the other areas that i mentioned for pretty quickly. What about the other areas that i mentioned for future areas that i mentioned for future investigation and things like looking at specifically now, going backin looking at specifically now, going back in two years passed and the career of lucy letby . 50. Back in two years passed and the career of lucy letby . Career of lucy letby . So, this is different to career of lucy letby . So, this is different to what career of lucy letby . So, this is different to what happened career of lucy letby . So, this is different to what happened with i different to what happened with harold in the early to thousands but Howard Shipman was convicted of a number of murders, ii. Howard shipman was convicted of a number of murders, 11. But the inquiry that happened in the inquiry of Harold Shipman was hundreds of deaths and it concluded that he was probably more likely than not involved in the deaths of hundreds of his patients. I think you a thing with lucy letby and the unit which normally saw about three deaths in a year, saw 13 deaths in the space of one calendar year not all of the steps resulted in Murder Charges in this case there might be some reasons for that it might be that the Crown Prosecution Service felt there was not enough evidence to bring charges on all of the steps but to go from an average of three to 13 and a year, a leap of nearly five times that needs looking into and thats just extraordinary and a beggars belief that giving those numbers given those consultants were raising concerns with management those concerns are not acted on. Another question is nhs trusts looking at what happened here and other direct lessons that can be learned already what i have to wait for the results of the inquiry . I really think that will probably have to wait. There have been changes put in place over years we had various tragedies, really, like this in the wake of the early 90s, and in the wake of the early 90s, and in the wake of the early 90s, and in the wake of Harold Shipman in the early to thousands, changes have been introduced and after Harold Shipman, the way deaths were referred to coroners was tightened up and changes made to The General Medical Counsellor and authorises legislation of her doctors nose changed and i think we will see changes as a result of this Inquiry Thatis Changes as a result of this inquiry that is almost inevitable and what that is almost inevitable and what that change will be entirely depends on what the inquiry finds and probably a bit too early to say and the use of data is becoming more and more important. When you get a big spike in deaths over the course of the year, that should ring alarm bells loud and clear and it did. That is the tragedy, it did hear the countess of chester. Of those alarm bells are not heard by Senior Management even when there consulting doctors are trying to raise the alarm and bring it to the attention of managers. The medical director of the attention of managers. The medical director of the hospital attention of managers. The medical director of the hospital for attention of managers. The medical director of the hospital for the director of the hospital for the murders took place, he spoke earlier. I murders took place, he spoke earlier. , murders took place, he spoke earlier. ,. , murders took place, he spoke earlier. ,. , earlier. I was saddened and appalled we are at lucy earlier. I was saddened and appalled we are at lucy letbys earlier. I was saddened and appalled we are at lucy letbys crimes. Earlier. I was saddened and appalled we are at lucy letbys crimes. We i we are at lucy letbys crimes. We are extremely sorry that these crimes are committed at our hospital. And her thoughts continue to be with other families and loved we are extremely sorry that these crimes were committed at our hospital. And our thoughts continue to be with all the families and loved ones of the babies who came to harm or who died. We cannot begin to understand what they have been through. This case has had a profound impact on our patients and our local community, and also our staff. They come to work every day determined to provide safe and high quality care for all of our patients. Our staff are devastated by what has happened, and we are committed to ensuring that lessons continue to be learned. We are grateful for the cooperation of our staff, especially those that have maintained the utmost professionalism was giving evidence in this trial, sometimes on multiple occasions. We will continue to support them and our other staff to ensure they receive the care and support that they need. We would like to extend our thanks to Cheshire Police street to where we are expecting a Press Conference at any second now from s3 police, this concerns is another distressing story where a ten Year Old Girl was found dead in the glistening. {lin tenyearold girl was found dead in the glistening the glistening. On behalf of Surrey Police, i the glistening. On behalf of Surrey Police. I want the glistening. On behalf of Surrey Police, i want to the glistening. On behalf of Surrey Police, i want to express the glistening. On behalf of Surrey Police, i want to express my police, i want to express my heartfelt condolences around this tragic death. Our thoughts are with her mother at this difficult time and we fully appreciate the impact of this devastating impact with half of this devastating impact with half of the local community. Our investigation remains ongoing to pace the ten Year Old Girl we can now identify as sarah. She was in woking are drawn to 50 a. M. On thursday the 10th Of August following a 999 call which is made by a man identifying himself as her father. This was made from pakistan and on arrival and sara sharif was found dead inside the property. It is believed that she lived at this address and her mother was informed and continues to be supported by specially trained officers. We have identified three people who would like to speak to us as part of the ongoing investigation. Herfather, his partner and her brother. It is believed he travelled to pakistan in company with his partner and his brother on wednesday the 9th Of August. There were five children with them marriage between a year in 13 years old. Our inquiries remain ongoing to locate them we are continuing to work with international agencies, continuing to work with internationalagencies, including interpol, the National Crime agency and the foreign commonwealth and Development Office to progress her own inquiries of the authorities of pakistan. The Postmortem Examination which took place on tuesday afternoon did not establish the cause of Harold Shipman threes death and for the tests are being carried out. The postmortem did, however, revealed that she suffered extensive injuries sara sharif which was inflicted over an extended period of time. The fact that we now know that sara sharif suffered injuries over an extended period has significantly changed the nature of our investigation and wiping the timescale and the focus of our inquiry. As result, were trying to piece together a picture of sara sharif� s lifestyle and we cannot do this without the public� s help. Were inquiring for anyone who had any form of contact with sara sharif is any information about her, no matter how insignificant they may seem, to come forward as soon as possible. I like to reassure that we are doing everything in our power to ensure that those responsible for sara sharif� s tragic and interpret data brought to justice. 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In some new details that i will go over Police Missing multiple and extensive injuries were discovered on her body likely to have been inflicted over an extended period of time which widens the scope and changes the nature of these investigations. The details mentioning three people who have left the country to islamabad and pakistan including a father in the partner and brother. They all left the uk and flew to pakistan on wednesday the 9th Of August knows the day before sara sharif� s body was discovered. So, very distressing case and a very brief update from Surrey Police there. Are we deceiving get a few more details from a correspondent who was there but those details are coming in and adding to what we know basically before that Press Conference and we did not know that the name had not been officially confirmed and that was named locally and police are coming out in the last units and confirming that name. She was ten years old and found dead at a house in surrey. Detectives were believed before that update to be looking for three people who they described as being known to the girl and known to have left the country and we now know the names of those three people that the police are working to establish contact with and we know they left the country and flew to pakistan and we now know their names. The first is the father of the ten Year Old Girl sharif. And his Brother Faisal, that was the day before sara sharif� s body was discovered. And please conference, we know that the mother has been informed of the details by police and is being supported by police officers, the mother of sara sharif. We will speak to a correspondent and bring us up to date with the very latest. , bring us up to date with the very latest. , u, latest. That very Significant Development latest. That very Significant Development here latest. That very Significant Development here this latest. That very Significant Development here this afternoon and the death being reported, found in the death being reported, found in the early hours at her home and detectives here at Surrey Police of name three people that they want to speak to in connection with the investigation and one of them is the father of sara sharif, he is known as urfan sharif and he and two other people, his partner and his brother was 28 years old. Naming the father, the partner and his brother, three people they want to see in connection to the Murder Investigation after sara sharif� s body was found in the early hours of thursday morning and we also have formal identification and three people travelled to islamabad and pakistan on wednesday the day before sara sharif� s body was discovered and then revealed that a call was made by urfan sharif shortly after he and his partner and brother landed in islamabad pakistan. We just heard details about the postmortem which was conducted that did not establish a cause of death and it has to be carried out but sara sharif suffered multiple and extensive injuries likely being caused by a sustained period of time and detectives as youve heard, and i want to try to speak to anyone as beenin i want to try to speak to anyone as been in contact with the ten Year Old Girl and anyone who preps looked after her spoken to her and try to build a picture of her life in Huge Development for Surrey Police naming the father, his partner and his Brother Faisal malik is the three people fled to pakistan that they want to speak to in connection with the investigation and they clearly need the public soap. And they clearly need the public soa. , and they clearly need the public soa. ,. , ~ and they clearly need the public soa. , and they clearly need the public soa. , and they clearly need the public soa. , ,. , soap. Can i ask you briefly to run throu~h soap. 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And three names of the people they want to track down to trace in connection with the Murder Investigation of the depths of the ten Year Old Girl. Investigation of the depths of the tenyearold girl. Investigation of the depths of the tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talkin tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talking to tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talking to us tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talking to us all tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talking to us all the tenyearold girl. Thank you so much for talking to us all the details for talking to us all the details about that awful case there in woking thank you. Returning to the breaking news today and that is the murder verdict. Nurse lucy letby has been found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six others in a Neonatal Unit at the countess of Chester Hospital in the north west of england. An independent inquiry has been announced into that case. Speaking to reporters just a short time ago lets see what she said. Mr; to reportersjust a short time ago lets see what she said. My thoughts and sympathies lets see what she said. My thoughts and sympathies are lets see what she said. My thoughts and sympathies are with lets see what she said. My thoughts and sympathies are with the lets see what she said. My thoughtsj and sympathies are with the families who have lost babies or had babies injured in the unbelievable heartbreak that they have been through and must be going through a thing is unimaginably hard to lose the baby or have a baby injured in any circumstances but clearly in the circumstances, such as our defined words to express what it must be like and so, my thoughts are with them and with the staff at the countess of Chester Hospital must also be hugely affected by what is happened and you asked me about the inquiry and the important thing here is that Something Like this must never happen again and the nhs must learn lessons and theyre launching an inquiry to make sure all the lessons that can be learned would be learned in all possible action is taken so this will never happen again and particularly asked about the questions of statutory versus not statutory. Making sure this can be done at pace and action to be taken quickly inquiry is one that can happen more quickly and be more flexible to answer questions that need to be answered. Flexible to answer questions that need to be answered. Leading the team of seven need to be answered. Leading the team of seven consultants need to be answered. Leading the team of seven consultants at need to be answered. Leading the team of seven consultants at the l team of seven consultants at the countess of Chester Hospital. Dr Stephen Brearey led the team of seven consultants on the Neonatal Unit at the countess of Chester Hospital, who shared concerns about the deaths. He spoke tojudith moritz. If we go back to the summer of 2015, when did you first become concerned . A review of the care of all three babies was done, and there was nothing in common that we could pin these three deaths on. But the Static Analysis did identify that lucy letby was on shift for those three episodes. And did that worry you . Well, i think i can remember saying, oh no, it cant be lucy, nice lucy. Tell me about when you remember first meeting lucy letby. I dont recall the first time that i met lucy letby. She started work in 2012. She didnt strike me as too different to most nurses on the unit. You didnt have any worries about her doing thejob . I dont think anybody did. It is something that nobody really wants to consider, you know, that a member of staff might be harming the babies under your care. Can you give us a sense of what was happening in the unit over the summer and autumn of 2015 in terms of there being more unexplained collapses and deaths . It was the first time i started to have some concerns about the unusual nature of the collapses and the deaths. I e mailed the unit manager after this death in october, and i asked to discuss lucy letby and her association with the deaths. Some of the babies did not respond to resuscitation quite how we would have expected them to. Most babies get a heart rate back, their breathing would get better, but that didnt happen in these cases like you would expect, which was unusual. As the year turned into early 2016, particularly february 2016, things took another turn. Youd asked for an urgent meeting. Thats correct, yes. As a group, our concerns were rising. Theres no communication from senior managers in the trust. And how long did it take for that meeting to come about . The meeting did not happen until may. Tell me about the fact that after two of the triplets died injune, you had a debrief, talk me through what happened. Lucy letby was there, she was sitting next to me. I spoke to her towards the end of the meeting, and i said how tired and upset she must be after two days of this, and i hoped that she was going to have a restful weekend. And she turned to me and said, no, i am back on shift tomorrow. Which struck me as being incredible, really. The other staff were very traumatised by all of this, we were crumbling before your eyes almost. And she was quite happy and confident to come into work on the saturday. And it was, shortly after that, that lucy letby was taken off duty. Yes. Would you say that was the Tipping Point . Certainly, the Tipping Point for the consultant body, who wanted to work in a safe environment. We had a number of meetings with Senior Management, it was quite clear that they were not going to budge and they didnt think it appropriate to go to the police at that stage. Do you think its the case that if you hadnt persisted, there would never have been a Police Investigation . Im sure, yeah. That was the intention of the executives, was to somehow close this case. Was this a cover up . I dont know how youd define a cover up, but to us, the evidence in front of us was quite clear. It felt like they were trying to engineer some sort of narrative, a way out of this that didnt involve going to the police. If you want to call that a cover up, then thats a cover up. Can expectant mothers coming into the unit have confidence . I think those parents can expect, em. As high a level of care on our unit as any unit in the country. It is upsetting, though. Weve got though a particularly hard time, and i think we owe it to the families, for them to know that the staff care. Theres plenty more coverage and of the latest developments. This is bbc news. Here in manchester nurse lucy letby is found guilty of murdering seven babies and attempting to murder six others. The murders took place at the countess of Chester Hospital, where she was working as a neo natal nurse. She perverted her learning and weaponised her craft to inflict harm, grief and death. Time and again, she harmed babies in an environment which should have been safe for them and theirfamilies. Doctors had repeatedly raised concerns about lucy letby to Senior Management at the hopsital before she was arrested. One of them said, every time im, you know, this is happening to me, that im being called in for these catastrophic events which were unexpected and unexplained, lucy letby is there, and then Somebody Else said, yes, ive found that. For the families involved it has been a long and tortuous journey. Shes taken everything from us. Absolutely everything. Itsjust beyond your imagination that somebodys on a ward, killing babies. Its unbelievable. Police are now reviewing the admissions of 4,000 babies at the hopsitals where lucy letby worked. And on bbc london, more than 300 cameras installed to detect drivers who havent paid the Ultra Low Emission Zone charge in the northwest, the guilty nurse lucy b is