that is he couldn't pardon himself and he couldn't pardon any of his co—conspirators. so for instance, if people _ co—conspirators. so for instance, if people like — co—conspirators. so for instance, if people like rudy giuliani or mark meadows or other people who are less household _ meadows or other people who are less household names here are charged in state court. _ household names here are charged in state court, they cannot hope that a pardon _ state court, they cannot hope that a pardon gets them out of those charges. — pardon gets them out of those charges. they would have to just bite it _ charges. they would have to just bite it in — charges. they would have to just bite it in court and obviously, the state _ bite it in court and obviously, the state has — bite it in court and obviously, the state has the burden of proving the case beyond a reasonable doubt unanimously before a jury —— prove it in court. — unanimously before a jury —— prove it in court. that is correctly an issue — it in court. that is correctly an issue which— it in court. that is correctly an issue which is the da can be elected and he _ issue which is the da can be elected and be partisan, but whether that is the case _ and be partisan, but whether that is the case or— and be partisan, but whether that is the case or not, jury has to find somebody— the case or not, jury has to find somebody guilty beyond reasonable doubt. _ somebody guilty beyond reasonable doubt. tim somebody guilty beyond reasonable doubt. ., ., ., ., ., doubt. tim parlatore, would donald trump have — doubt. tim parlatore, would donald trump have a _ doubt. tim parlatore, would donald trump have a strong _ doubt. tim parlatore, would donald trump have a strong defence i doubt. tim parlatore, would donald trump have a strong defence he i doubt. tim parlatore, would donald| trump have a strong defence he was acting on the defence of his lawyers? t acting on the defence of his lawyers?— acting on the defence of his la ers? .,�* ~ ., ., lawyers? i don't know that the advice of council _ lawyers? i don't know that the advice of council defence i lawyers? i don't know that the | advice of council defence would really be applicable in this. and again, i don't know what the charges are. but to the extent that