Former President Trump was then read his rights he entered a not guilty plea. The next hearing set for the morning of august 28th. These are the four charges donald trump is facing in this case. Conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding, and conspiracy against the rights of citizens. The indictment also mentioned six Co Conspirators, who have not been charged. Mr trump has now left washington on his private plane. Before boarding, he made a brief statement. This is a very sad day for america. And it was also very sad driving through washington, dc and seeing the filth and the decay and all of the broken buildings and walls and the graffiti. This is not the place that i left. Its a very sad thing to see it. When you look at whats happening, this is a persecution of a political opponent. This was never supposed to happen in america. This is the persecution of the person thats leading by very, very substantial numbers in the republican primary, and leading biden by a lot. So if you cant beat him, you persecute him or you prosecute him. We cant let this happen in america. Thank you very much. Live to outside the courthouse now, with carl nasman. You have been there at the courthouse or a day. Walk us through what you have seen unfolding. Through what you have seen unfolding through what you have seen unfoldinu. ~. Unfolding. All day. We are onl a unfolding. All day. We are only a few unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred feet unfolding. All day. We are only a few hundred feet from the Capitol Building where the events of january sixth took place. The courthouse behind me has actually seen dozens of january sixth cases, various defendants having trials there, so this is certainly a symbolic location for todays arraignment. Former President Donald Trump arriving and entering a plea of not guilty to those four criminal charges stemming from his alleged attempt to overturn the results of the 2020 election and the events leading up to the insurrection on january sixth. According to reporters who were in the courthouse, donald trump himself was calm and fairly quiet during these proceedings, as he heard the charges read out loud and he entered his plea. He had his three lawyers there with him, the special Counseljack Smith was also in the courtroom, Satjust A Row behind the former president. It was a quick hearing, only about 30 minutes. And then the former president was on his way back to the airport, hes already back home in newjersey. This is a very symbolic day, a former president facing criminal charges in the nations capital. This is the third arraignment now for donald trump, and these events, these sequences of timings and procedures that we see happening are beginning to almost feel normal. This is not the first time we have seen this take place, and certainly not the first time donald trump has gone through an arraignment. Has gone through an arraiunment. ,. ,. , arraignment. Thanks a lot for that. Live now to tim heaphy, who served as the top investigator for the special House Committee that scrutinised the january 6th riots. You are very familiar with the charges laid out in this indictment, leading the investigation into january sixth. How strong a case does jack smith make in the indictment in your opinion . The indictment indictment in your opinion . Tue indictment reads indictment in your opinion . Tte indictment reads very much like the select committees report, and much of the information contained in the indictment was presented at the select Committee Hearings last summer. We reached a point, based on that evidence, of making criminal referrals, specifically the same two criminal statutes, two of the three that jack smith has used to charge. The case has only got stronger since then Special Counsel have some tools that we didnt have. He can immediately push through Privilege Assertions and get a judge to rule on them, he has used that to get Vice President pence, some additional testimony from him and others, so the case has got stronger since we concluded our work, and we had already concluded there was evidence of criminal conduct. T concluded there was evidence of criminal conduct. Criminal conduct. I want to talk about criminal conduct. I want to talk about the criminal conduct. I want to talk about the defence, i criminal conduct. I want to l talk about the defence, one criminal conduct. I want to talk about the defence, one of the arguments on the Trump Legal Team will be that the president , former president was acting on advice that he sought on his lawyers, that essentially he was receiving legal counsel. Will that stand up legal counsel. Will that stand up in court . T legal counsel. Will that stand un in court . Legal counsel. Will that stand up in court . Up in court . I think the special up in court . I think the Special Counsel up in court . I think the Special Counsel has up in court . I think the i Special Counsel has tried already very hard to anticipate and rebut that defence. Its simply not reasonable to rely on baseless advice, particularly when so many others are telling you one thing, you cantjust shop around for somebody to tell you the other thing and say, oh, i believe him because he told me it was true. So i think the indictment suggests trump was told repeatedly that there was no evidence of systemic voter fraud, and the Vice President did not have the authority to unilaterally reject electors. Even though some others told him there was voter fraud, and that the Vice President did have that authority, that was unreasonable advice because it wasnt based on fact or law. So i dont think that advice will stand up very well when this case comes up. T stand up very well when this case comes up. Stand up very well when this case comes up. I want to ask ou case comes up. I want to ask you this, case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, do case comes up. I want to ask you this, conversely, do you | you this, conversely, do you think there is the potential that some of trumps former lawyers could end up providing more information to the prosecutors . We have got six Co Conspirators who havent been. They have been mentioned but they havent been charged. Mentioned but they havent been charued. ,. , , charged. Yes, absolutely. The name of the charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in any charged. Yes, absolutely. The Name Of The Game in any kind| charged. Yes, absolutely. The l Name Of The Game in any kind of conspiracy investigation or prosecution is to get information from people inside the conspiracy. All six of those Co Conspirators, who are not named but fairly obvious who they are, the lawyers that provided the president the bad advice. They have personal exposure which creates a very strong incentive on them essentially to cut a deal, to provide information, treat full information to the Special Counsel in exchange for immunity or leniency if they plead guilty. I would not be surprised if those discussions are already under way and it leads to additional evidence for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, because for the Special Counsel. That is interesting, because the indictment is 45 pages long. Your report was over 800 pages. Ultimately, do you think that suggests there is something jack smith is holding back . 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In light of everything we have seen today, where do you think this leaves the 2024 election . I dont know. I am a lawyer, an investigator, not a political prognosticator. All i know is the fact a very serious, the evidence is very strong. Hopefully that is going to make a huge difference when people go to the polls in 2024. Go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us attorney go to the polls in 2024. Tim, former us attorney who go to the polls in 2024. Tim, l former us attorney who served as the top investigator for the special House Committee that scrutinised the january sixth riots, thank you so much will be in with us on bbc news. Thanks for having me. Around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. Bbc news, bringing you different stories from across the uk. People believe that just because people believe thatjust because you are from a bad background, youre not going to achieve much. But i believe this project is helping. Tm achieve much. 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For more stories, go to the bbc news | stories, go to the bbc news website. Youre live with bbc news. In the courtroom earlier, former President Donald Trump was told not to communicate about the facts of the case by the judge. About the facts of the case by thejudge. She won him about the facts of the case by the judge. She won him failure to comply would result in an Arrest Warrant and Contempt Of Court charges. She warned him. Prosecutors said the hearing would benefit from a speedy trial. I spoke to California Democratic congresswoman zoe lofgren, who sat on the congressional committe that investigated the Riots Onjanuary 6th about her thoughts concerning former President Donald Trumps third arraignment. I want to begin by getting your reaction to what youve seen today. Reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ,. , reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ~. , reaction to what youve seen toda. ~ ~. , � , today. Well, you know, its alwa s today. Well, you know, its always a today. Well, you know, its always a shock today. Well, you know, its always a shock when today. Well, you know, its always a shock when you. Today. Well, you know, its. Always a shock when you see today. Well, you know, its always a shock when you see a former president arrested. And charged with four felonies. 0n the other hand, we knew this day was coming from the indictment. And of course, as a member of the january sixth committee, we have known for some time that he engaged in conduct that was criminal and designed to overthrow the constitution and the election in order to keep power. So it was a mix of sadness, determination and, i guess, in a sense, gratification that in america, no person is above the law. ,. , america, no person is above the law. The special Counseljack Smith has law. The special Counseljack Smith has notes law. The special Counseljack Smith has notes from law. The Special Counseljackj smith has notes from former president mike pence which were taken in real time. Of course we know he never actually sat down with the january sixth committee, but what kind of information do you Thinkjack Smith is now in possession of, because of those notes . Well, i would think because of those notes . Well, i would think substantial would think substantial information. For example, one of the things he recited in the indictment was the ex president trying to talk p into slowing the votes out. He said, you are too honest. Vice president pence into throwing out the votes. That tells me trump was dishonest and was failing in getting his Vice President to join him in that dishonesty. There was a lot of interaction between their then president and his Vice President , where the then president was trying to bully the Vice President into violating his oath of office, and violating the electoral count act. The word for word discussion will be important evidence for this trial. ,. ,. , important evidence for this trial. ,� , important evidence for this trial. ,. , trial. Donald trumps legal team will trial. Donald trumps legal team will say trial. Donald trumps legal team will say this trial. Donald trumps legal team will say this is trial. Donald trumps legal team will say this is about| trial. Donald trumps legal i team will say this is about his First Amendment rights. What is your reaction to that . Your reaction to that . Well, clearly its your reaction to that . Well, clearly its not. Your reaction to that . Well, clearly its not. As your reaction to that . Well, clearly its not. As the clearly its not. As the indictment itself says, you can say whatever you want, even if it is lies, but when that turns into action, then you run into criminal conduct. Its like saying you can say whatever you want, so if you walk into a bank and say, ive got a gun, give me all your money, that is protected by the First Amendment. I think not. Amendment. Ithink not. Donald trump has amendment. Ithink not. Donald trump has called amendment. I think not. Donald trump has called this amendment. I think not. Donald trump has called this a trump has called this a witchhunt. He has called today a sad day for the country. Are you concerned that this could embolden his base, who essentially have described the Department Ofjustice as partisan . Department ofjustice as artisan . ~. , partisan . Well, that is the narrative partisan . Well, that is the Narrative Trump partisan . Well, that is the Narrative Trump has partisan . Well, that is the Narrative Trump has been | Narrative Trump has been spinning to his supporters, aided by fox news, that has helped to spin the lies that the president has spun. I think the president has spun. I think the ex president must realise that his best hope of avoiding accountability is being re elected and then pardoning himself, because i think he is in a heap of trouble when it comes to these criminal charges. Comes to these criminal charges comes to these criminal charaes. ,. , charges. Ultimately, what we could now charges. Ultimately, what we could now see charges. Ultimately, what we could now see play charges. Ultimately, what we could now see play out charges. Ultimately, what we could now see play out is could now see play out is Donald Trumps legal team try to delay, playful time, ultimately do you think the special Counseljack Smith can Special Counsel jack smith can prevail special Counseljack Smith can prevail here . Play for time. That remains to be seen. Its up that remains to be seen. Its up to thejudge that remains to be seen. Its up to the judge in how she runs her court room. I dont know her court room. I dont know her personally, but we have observed her work. She handled some of the civil matters from the january sixth committee, and she did so promptly and with a firm hand. I understand she has set a First Trial Setting Hearing Forjust a couple of weeks from now. I dont think she is going to put up dont think she is going to put up with a lot of nonsense. 0bviously up with a lot of nonsense. Obviously the defence is entitled to a presumption of innocence, like any criminal defendant. But i dont think shes going to let frivolous motions delay a trial at all. Congresswoman, let Mejust Motions delay a trial at all. Congresswoman, let me just ask you, we are seeing a potential president ial candidate facing possible prison time. Whatever happens here, he has a strong base at the moment. What do you think ultimately this means for the United States in the years to come . ~. , � the United States in the years to come . To come . Well, i dont have a c stal to come . Well, i dont have a crystal ball. To come . Well, i dont have a crystal ball, but to come . Well, i dont have a crystal ball, but i to come . Well, i dont have a crystal ball, but i do to come . Well, i dont have a crystal ball, but i do think crystal ball, but i do think there are some fundamentals here. Since the first president george washington, a fundamental is when the election is taken, the incumbent abides by the results. George washington left after two terms. I remember reading at the Library Of Congress a letter that president lincoln had written to his cabinet when he believed he was going to lose the election in the middle of the civil war. Election in the middle of the civilwar. His election in the middle of the civil war. His words were, no matter how dire we think this will be, we will live with the will be, we will live with the will of the voters. Mr trump is the first ever in American History to try and hold onto power contrary to the electorate. We cantjust give that a pass. That cannot be allowed or the american experiment with democracy is doomed. And i think to the extent that he has committed crimes, and clearly i think he has, ouramerican crimes, and clearly i think he has, our american system of justice sees everyone the same. No one is exempt from complying with the law, including the most elevated people in our society. Even the president of the United States. So i hope, as time goes by, thatjustice will be served and the American Public will come to accept that thatis public will come to accept that that is the best that american governance has to offer. Congresswoman, thank you so much for being with us. You bet. Lets bring in our panel now. Joining me live is fomer federal prosecutor shan wu and republican analyst and political strategist rina shah. A warm welcome to you both, great to have you with us on bbc news. I want to begin by asking you, we know there are a number of Top Republicans reputedly who have told donald trump that his claims of widespread Voterfraud Trump that his claims of widespread voter fraud were false. How important do you think that will be, that there will be these republican calls that we know in the past, saying that this narrative was false, how important do you think that will be improving intent . In proving intent . T intent . In proving intent . I think as long as those public statements are not making it into the courtroom, thats not going to be much ammunition at all, although obviously a big part of trumps defence strategy is trying to argue that he lacked the right state of mind, that he actually believed he won. We have spent a lot of time analysing that and the Circumstantial Evidence of it, but the critical prosecution strategy has to be. They dont need to prove what he really believed. What they need to prove it is he had they need to prove it is he had the intent to do the illegal act, the specific actions named in the indictment, trying to change the results. So that ultimately is a bit of a red herring to be pulled into the into the political and public argument that he really believed that he lost, they need to shift from that standpoint. Need to shift from that standpoint. Need to shift from that standoint. , , standpoint. Despite the likes of mike pence, standpoint. Despite the likes of mike pence, william standpoint. Despite the likes of mike pence, william barr| of mike pence, william barr refuting this narrative that the election was stolen, still we are seeing a high level of support from Donald Trumps base. How do you explain that . That bait is so behind this former that bait is so behind this former president because they believe former president because they believe him to be a champion for their believe him to be a champion for their ideas. That base. That for their ideas. That base. That there for their ideas. That base. That there is a deep state in the sea, that there is a deep state in the sea, and that there is an entire the sea, and that there is an entire day the sea, and that there is an entire Day Establishment of politicians that is against them politicians that is against them. It epitomises the era that them. It epitomises the era that we them. It epitomises the era that we live in, Grievance Politics that we live in, Grievance Politics. This make America Great politics. This make America Great again faction of the Republican Party is dwindling in size, Republican Party is dwindling in size, and what we see as they in size, and what we see as they get in size, and what we see as they get smaller is they get more they get smaller is they get more extreme. They are coming out saying more extreme. They are coming out saying this is a witchhunt and out saying this is a witchhunt and that out saying this is a witchhunt and that the former president is being and that the former president is being unfairly prosecuted. But the is being unfairly prosecuted. But the more concerning part is there but the more concerning part is there are but the more concerning part is there are people sitting in elected there are people sitting in elected positions on capitol hill saying the same thing. Today. Hill saying the same thing. Today, the Conference Chair for the republicans, the congresswoman from new york, put out congresswoman from new york, put out a congresswoman from new york, put out a statement and the last couple of lines, i would like last couple of lines, i would like to last couple of lines, i would like to read it because its so jarrind like to read it because its so jarring. She said, President Trump jarring. She said, President Trump had every right under the First Amendment to correctly raise First Amendment to correctly raise concerns about Election Integrity raise concerns about Election Integrity in 2020. Let that sink integrity in 2020. Let that sink in. Integrity in 2020. Let that sink in, they are making it about sink in, they are making it about Election Integrity. She goes about Election Integrity. She goes on about Election Integrity. She goes on to say, despite the dojs goes on to say, despite the dojs illegal attempt to interfere in the 2024 election on the interfere in the 2024 election on the harbour ofjoe biden, President Trump continues to skyrocket in the polls and will be sworn skyrocket in the polls and will be sworn in as president in 2025 be sworn in as president in 2025. When you have elected officials 2025. When you have elected officials carrying the water for you. Officials carrying the water for you, you dont even need the bully for you, you dont even need the bully pulpit every day. Trump the bully pulpit every day. Trump is the bully pulpit every day. Trump is winning the messaging wars trump is winning the messaging wars against his public an opponent in the primary right now opponent in the primary right now because he is coming out so powerfully, screaming victim, which powerfully, screaming victim, which is powerfully, screaming victim, which is completely antithetical to republican ideas antithetical to republican ideas of at least the past 20 years ideas of at least the past 20 years it ideas of at least the past 20 ears. ,. ,. , years. It is one thing for those messages years. It is one thing for those messages to years. It is one thing for those messages to gain | years. It is one thing for those messages to gain traction in the court of public opinion. What about in the court of law . Do you think that will be seen as an adequate defence, that this is essentially about First Amendment Free Speech Rights . It probably wont be, because the indictment was laid out that way, saying, yes the First Amendment is a right but it is not a defence for any crime. We have heard the analogy about a Robber Handing over a note in a bank saying, give me all your money, i have a gun, and the analogy that trumps defence, the rubber was prosecuted and then says, what, writing is now a crime . So its clear about doing something illegal rather than expressing a First Amendment. There will be litigation around that, they will engage it in pre trial motion, there might be legal arguments before they even get to the Jury Arguments before they even get to thejury Verdict Arguments before they even get to the jury verdict about that, but its certainly going to be part of his defence. This notion that its my First Amendment right to speak. Despite these legal problems weighing up for donald trump, weighing up for donald trump, we are still seeing him out in front when it comes to the republican race. Why do you think that is . Why do you think ron desantis, for example, or any other candidate, still cant close the gap . There is something cant close the gap . There is something to cant close the gap . There is something to be cant close the gap . There is something to be said cant close the gap . There is something to be said about i cant close the gap . There is i something to be said about how this Republican Party operates in this this Republican Party operates in this area, and what the governor in this area, and what the governor of florida rOn Desantis Is Doing is going hard right desantis is doing is going hard right On Desantis Is Doing is going hard right on the social issues, which right on the social issues, which doesnt sit well with many which doesnt sit well with many people. Those who have become many people. Those who have become moderate or more centre right, or even a little bit more centre right, or even a little bit more independently minded in the bit more independently minded in the era bit more independently minded in the era of trump. Having done in the era of trump. Having done to in the era of trump. Having gone to the extremes within the Republican Party, people who really Republican Party, people who really believe would fight for them, really believe would fight for them, that there could be somebody who fights for them, they dont say somebody within this crop they dont say somebody within this crop of candidates who can do that this crop of candidates who can do that. So you do see these establishment types, these former establishment types, these former governors, former ambassadors, these are people with long ambassadors, these are people with long legs are made in public with long legs are made in public service, and its hard for them public service, and its hard for them to raise money from small for them to raise money from small donors. Long service in public small donors. Long service in public service. In trumps time in public service. In trumps time in in public service. In trumps time in the in public service. In trumps time in the white house, it showed time in the white house, it showed the Republican Party, none showed the Republican Party, none of showed the Republican Party, none of his opponent in the primary, none of his opponent in the primary, although we are very early, primary, although we are very early, have been able to do that early, have been able to do that very early, have been able to do that very thing. 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This is more likely to get to trial before the red zone, the president ial election season. Its still very difficult, and if they push too hard, if the judge pushes too hard, they create a possible reversal if there is a conviction, because the argument would be that the defence did not have enough time to prepare, so its a very careful line that has to be walked. B. Careful line that has to be walked. � ,. ,. , walked. A big thanks to you both forjoining walked. A big thanks to you both forjoining us walked. A big thanks to you both forjoining us on i walked. A big thanks to you both forjoining us on bbc l both forjoining us on bbc news. We will have more news coming up at the top of the hour. You can get the latest on our website. Thanks for your company, see you soon. Hello there. Thursday was a relatively quiet day for many of us. In fact, we had some sunny spells and a little bit of warmth coming through. Cambridge was the top spot with 23 celsius by the middle of the afternoon. Not all of us had beautiful blue, sunny skies. In fact, the cloud, the shower cloud gathered across whitley bay by the end of the afternoon. And some of those showers intense, with rumbles of thunder and lightning mixed in there. So, a similar story as we go into friday. Still got this northwesterly flow. Thats going to be driving some fairweather cloud around. And through parts of the afternoon, we will start to see a cluster of sharp showers, particularly down through eastern england. A few isolated showers for scotland and northern ireland, the best of the sunshine in sheltered western areas. But temperatures will be a little bit disappointing because of that north westerly Wind Direction 15 to 20 degrees the overall high, 68 fahrenheit. Now, as we move out of friday into the start of the weekend, once again, its going to be the fourth weekend in a row that weve seen an area of low pressure moving in Off The Atlantic and bringing some unseasonably wet and windy weather for this time of year. So heavy rain during the early hours of saturday morning across northern ireland. It will gradually push its way steadily eastwards. And as the low moves east, while the winds will be gusting across wales and South West England 50, possibly 60 miles an hour, and that could have an implication certainly for those camping, but some rough seas as well. Also, that rain will clear its way steadily east, and then behind, its going to be a cool and disappointing day for many only 14 to 17 degrees at the very best. So after a pretty wetjuly, looks likely that were going to see more significant rain as we move into the next few days for the early half of august, Darker Blues Denoting anywhere where we could potentially see another inch or two of rain. And as we move from sunday into the early part of next week, it looks likely that that unsettled theme is set to continue. However, from wednesday onwards, it looks likely that an area of High Pressure will build, and we havent seen this for quite some time. Just how long the High Pressure is going to stay with us is still subject to question. Perhaps it might ease away after just a few days, but there is a glimmer of hope that we will see some blue sky and sunshine and it will feel warmer. Apple Earnings Beat Expectations for the last quarter, but the firm warns of slowing sales ahead. And japanese stocks slide for a Third Straight day, as a global rout continues. Hello and welcome to Asia Business report. Im mariko 0i. The worlds most valuable company, apple, has warned that a sales slump could continue into the next quarter. Thats even as its latest Quarterly Earnings beat wall street estimates on the profit front. But apple also saw its iphone sales slip, despite a Strong Performance in china. I asked tech analyst dan ives why us china tensions have not dented consumer sentiment. I think if you look at the share gains, we estimate about 300 bits of share gains in china from apple, and thats really been the hearts and lungs of the growth story for apple, and i think that is something that we see across big tech earnings, is a lot of fear going into big tech earnings. Its been a lot better than expected. Thats a big reason that we have seen that green in the market, in terms of nasdaq. But in terms of apples revenues, though, from the iphones, mac and ipads, basically all their major products, they were down in this most recent earnings. Should that be concerning investors . In my opinion, it is all really about iphones, it is all about the iphone 15. That is to leave the focus going into this next six to nine months