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ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. with me are lucy beresford, broadcaster and psychotherapist and joe twyman, the director of deltapoll. tomorrow's front pages. the sunday times reports that tonight's vigil for sarah everard descended into chaos with police dispersing the crowd. it's got a striking picture of a woman being held by officers, and adds that there are now calls for the met chief cressida dick to resign. the telegraph reports on the duchess of cambridge�*s visit to the vigil earlier in the evening. a source told the paper that she wanted to pay her respects to sarah and herfamily. the sunday express also leads with catherine's visit, adding that she said she remembered what it felt like to walk around london at night before she got married. the mail on sunday adds that the duchess laid daffodils from kensington palace at the south london vigil and mingled discreetly with others paying their respects. the daily star leads on the death of murray walker, writing that the legendary tv commentator was the voice of formula 1 for decades so, let's begin, then with the mail on sunday. it says kate joins the vigil first mail on sunday. it says kate joins the vigilfirst guerra, mail on sunday. it says kate joins the vigil first guerra, mingling to pay her respects —— for sarah. before she became the duchess of cambridge, she had to navigate london as a single woman like millions of others.— london as a single woman like millions of others. yes, and she has talked about — millions of others. yes, and she has talked about that _ millions of others. yes, and she has talked about that in _ millions of others. yes, and she has talked about that in her _ millions of others. yes, and she has talked about that in her words - talked about that in her words today. let's be honest, i am six foot four and mail, today. let's be honest, i am six foot fourand mail, i today. let's be honest, i am six foot four and mail, i do not have the same experience that women have in the capital —— and male. so i don't understand in the same way, but i do recognise that this is a problem, and it's a wider problem simply in the safety of women on our streets. it's to do with the way that women are treated in our society of which this is simply one symptom, and i think it is a positive thing that the duchess is making this intervention. and indeed many would say that it's what we would expect from someone in prayer position —— in her position. this position -- in her position. this sends a powerful— position —— in her position. this sends a powerful message when the duchess of cambridge turns up. the fact that she wants to be amongst everybody else and she's dressed down, she is not turned out in the way that we're used to seeing her, very much wanting to fit in with everybody else. i very much wanting to fit in with everybody else-— very much wanting to fit in with everybody else. i think this is an extraordinary — everybody else. i think this is an extraordinary moment _ everybody else. i think this is an extraordinary moment because l everybody else. i think this is an i extraordinary moment because so everybody else. i think this is an - extraordinary moment because so much of the _ extraordinary moment because so much of the debate in the last 24 hours has been — of the debate in the last 24 hours has been about whether the vigil this evening would take place but more _ this evening would take place but more widely, whether people should be breaking covid lockdown restrictions in order to pay their respects — restrictions in order to pay their respects. and what the police were really _ respects. and what the police were really saying is please don't come, please _ really saying is please don't come, please don't come to clapham, because — please don't come to clapham, because we're trying to enforce this _ because we're trying to enforce this and — because we're trying to enforce this. and the duchess of cambridge .oes this. and the duchess of cambridge goes there. she goes there silently, she lays— goes there. she goes there silently, she lays a _ goes there. she goes there silently, she lays a bunch of flowers. it's mother's — she lays a bunch of flowers. it's mother's day tomorrow and sarah everard's — mother's day tomorrow and sarah everard's mother will not be hearing from her— everard's mother will not be hearing from her daughter. and the duchess of cambridge speaks, or gestures, and it— of cambridge speaks, or gestures, and it was— of cambridge speaks, or gestures, and it was so powerful because i think— and it was so powerful because i think there are so many women who would _ think there are so many women who would have — think there are so many women who would have loved to have been there to show _ would have loved to have been there to show their respect for this dreadful— to show their respect for this dreadful tragedy, and by doing so, as you _ dreadful tragedy, and by doing so, as you say, — dreadful tragedy, and by doing so, as you say, discreetly, no big drama. — as you say, discreetly, no big drama. ho— as you say, discreetly, no big drama, no big fanfare, no cameras, it was— drama, no big fanfare, no cameras, it wasa— drama, no big fanfare, no cameras, itwasa very— drama, no big fanfare, no cameras, it was a very powerful moment. where you think— it was a very powerful moment. where you think this — it was a very powerful moment. where you think this was a member of a royal— you think this was a member of a royal family who did have the experiences that hold many of us had, _ experiences that hold many of us had, which — experiences that hold many of us had, which was to walk on the streets — had, which was to walk on the streets of— had, which was to walk on the streets of night and to sometimes maybe _ streets of night and to sometimes maybe not feel safe —— so many of us. maybe not feel safe —— so many of us i_ maybe not feel safe —— so many of us ithink— maybe not feel safe —— so many of us. i think this is arguably the biggest — us. i think this is arguably the biggest moment of the day. lucy, talk to us about _ biggest moment of the day. lucy, talk to us about the _ biggest moment of the day. lucy, talk to us about the analysis - biggest moment of the day. lucy, talk to us about the analysis on i biggest moment of the day. ii_i.t}', talk to us about the analysis on the front of the sunday telegraph. political message from boris johnson from what the duchess said. some of the --aers from what the duchess said. some of the papers are _ from what the duchess said. some of the papers are likening _ from what the duchess said. some of the papers are likening this _ from what the duchess said. some of the papers are likening this to - from what the duchess said. some of the papers are likening this to the - the papers are likening this to the moment— the papers are likening this to the moment when the queen is supposedly saying _ moment when the queen is supposedly saying something in the run up to the scottish independence referendum, urging people to think carefully— referendum, urging people to think carefully before they cast their vote. — carefully before they cast their vote, which was widely interpreted as some _ vote, which was widely interpreted as some support for the union, very discretely— as some support for the union, very discretely put out there because all the journalists wanted to know what the journalists wanted to know what the queen— the journalists wanted to know what the queen had said to this member of the queen had said to this member of the public— the queen had said to this member of the public that she'd spoken to, similarly. — the public that she'd spoken to, similarly, very soft messaging here from the _ similarly, very soft messaging here from the duchess of cambridge, i think _ from the duchess of cambridge, i think to— from the duchess of cambridge, i think. to widen the debate, to make sure we _ think. to widen the debate, to make sure we remember that at the same time as— sure we remember that at the same time as a _ sure we remember that at the same time as a somebody has lost their life, time as a somebody has lost their life. there — time as a somebody has lost their life, there is arguably as an important story for all women to be taken _ important story for all women to be taken seriously, there is a study that came — taken seriously, there is a study that came out early this week that showed _ that came out early this week that showed that 97% of 18 to 24—year—old woman _ showed that 97% of 18 to 24—year—old women have — showed that 97% of 18 to 24—year—old women have experienced sexual harassment to some disagree. that's pretty— harassment to some disagree. that's pretty much— harassment to some disagree. that's pretty much every 18 to 24—year—old, and the _ pretty much every 18 to 24—year—old, and the duchess of cambridge's actions — and the duchess of cambridge's actions and quietly, sombrely tumihg — actions and quietly, sombrely turning up to clapham common is basically— turning up to clapham common is basically saying "i am with you, i hear— basically saying "i am with you, i hear you — basically saying "i am with you, i hear you and something needs to change" — hear you and something needs to change." this is now bigger than sarah _ change." this is now bigger than sarah everard, but she has been the catalyst _ sarah everard, but she has been the catalyst for — sarah everard, but she has been the catalyst for hopefully some really hi i catalyst for hopefully some really big changes around how society views womeh~ _ big changes around how society views women. , ., �* , ., , . ., women. joe, we've seen on several of the --aers women. joe, we've seen on several of the papers tonight— women. joe, we've seen on several of the papers tonight pictures _ women. joe, we've seen on several of the papers tonight pictures of - women. joe, we've seen on several of the papers tonight pictures of the - the papers tonight pictures of the police tactics act this gathering on the independent. police underfire. a woman is held last night in clapham com. scuffles broke out. that same woman we'll see in a second is pictured on the sunday times, looking directly into the lens of that camera. the outrage on the sunday times as police clashes, tarnish vigil for sarah. the the sunday times as police clashes, tarnish vigilfor sarah. the police didn't want this to go ahead because of coronavirus restrictions, but when it does, you have to reassess the tactics. i when it does, you have to reassess the tactics— when it does, you have to reassess the tactics. i think many people are lookin: at the tactics. i think many people are looking at the _ the tactics. i think many people are looking at the photos _ the tactics. i think many people are looking at the photos tonight - the tactics. i think many people are looking at the photos tonight and l looking at the photos tonight and thinking they look simply awful, and they will as a result of believe that the police�*s tactics and approach to the whole situation was awful, particularly given the very specific circumstances of this particular case. what we've seen is a situation where, yes, the police don't come, but when the dutch situation changes, policing has to be appropriate and proportionate —— when the situation changes. the prime commissioner said this was not the case. —— crime commissioner. it seemed common sense failed to be applied in this particular case. there are hierarchies within the police and someone will make the decision that the level of the approach was taken was the right one. it clearly, based on the evidence we've seen, based on the photos, based on the videos, based on the eyewitness reports, it was clearly not the right call to make. so questions must be answered now about why that decision was made. that such a sensitive time and such sensitive circumstances.— sensitive circumstances. lucy, the sunday times _ sensitive circumstances. lucy, the sunday times saying _ sensitive circumstances. lucy, the sunday times saying that - sensitive circumstances. lucy, the sunday times saying that the - sensitive circumstances. lucy, the | sunday times saying that the home secretary priti patel wants a report, wants to know what was going on at that gathering and how the police tried to keep control of it. i'm not surprised. she is also instrumental in urging the police to be extremely tough on any kind of covid _ be extremely tough on any kind of covid rule — be extremely tough on any kind of covid rule breaking, and this is where — covid rule breaking, and this is where i— covid rule breaking, and this is where i think we've reached a really interesting — where i think we've reached a really interesting situation which is unfortunately, i think, interesting situation which is unfortunately, ithink, not interesting situation which is unfortunately, i think, not least because — unfortunately, i think, not least because of covid rates have declined so dramatically, particularly to do with the _ so dramatically, particularly to do with the vaccine, is that more and more _ with the vaccine, is that more and more people are looking at the situation — more people are looking at the situation and making an assessment themselves, taking responsibility for their— themselves, taking responsibility for their own health and making a judgment — for their own health and making a judgment call. but for their own health and making a judgment call-— judgment call. but can you take responsibility — judgment call. but can you take responsibility for _ judgment call. but can you take responsibility for other - judgment call. but can you take responsibility for other people's health and choosing to attend a big gathering like this? these rules have been here for months for a reason. , . , ~ . ., reason. they have, but i think a lot of --eole reason. they have, but i think a lot of people are _ reason. they have, but i think a lot of people are beginning _ reason. they have, but i think a lot of people are beginning to - reason. they have, but i think a lot of people are beginning to look - reason. they have, but i think a lot of people are beginning to look at l of people are beginning to look at this so—called road map that we're meant _ this so—called road map that we're meant to— this so—called road map that we're meant to be having to ease ourselves out of _ meant to be having to ease ourselves out of lockdown combined with the dramatic— out of lockdown combined with the dramatic fall in rates of infections and deaths, and they're waiting that ”p and deaths, and they're waiting that up and _ and deaths, and they're waiting that up and saying why is it that we have the toughest lockdown rules in the whole _ the toughest lockdown rules in the whole of _ the toughest lockdown rules in the whole of europe when in fact, we're also the _ whole of europe when in fact, we're also the country that is whizzing ahead _ also the country that is whizzing ahead with our vaccine policy, protecting so many lives? actually, you've _ protecting so many lives? actually, you've got — protecting so many lives? actually, you've got the police actually saying — you've got the police actually saying "we are finding this unenforceable." because you're no longer— unenforceable." because you're no longer policing with consent. interestingly enough, there was a report— interestingly enough, there was a report out— interestingly enough, there was a report out earlier this week which criticised — report out earlier this week which criticised the police for perhaps some _ criticised the police for perhaps some tax — criticised the police for perhaps some lax policing in the last nine months _ some lax policing in the last nine months with regard to extinction rebellion, police dancing with supporters, ortaking in rebellion, police dancing with supporters, or taking in front of black— supporters, or taking in front of black lives— supporters, or taking in front of black lives matter protests. and the report _ black lives matter protests. and the report said — black lives matter protests. and the report said police need to be tougher~ _ report said police need to be tougher. unfortunately, they've chosen — tougher. unfortunately, they've chosen the wrong event to be tougher~ _ chosen the wrong event to be tougher. you cannot get tough. women are wearing _ tougher. you cannot get tough. women are wearing masks, they were there to conduct— are wearing masks, they were there to conduct a — are wearing masks, they were there to conduct a vigil. it not approach us, to conduct a vigil. it not approach us. its— to conduct a vigil. it not approach us. it's a — to conduct a vigil. it not approach us, it's a vigil. it's a mark of remembrance and the police had misjudged this —— it's not a protest _ misjudged this -- it's not a rotest. n. , ., misjudged this -- it's not a protest-— misjudged this -- it's not a rotest. , ., ., protest. many would say look at the rates in europe. _ protest. many would say look at the rates in europe. they're _ rising and there restrictions are arguably not tough enough. window on the world closes as spending acts calls on bso. just very briefly. the calls on 350. just very briefly. the cuts to find — calls on 350. just very briefly. the cuts to find a _ calls on bso. just very briefly. tue: cuts to find a that calls on bso. just very briefly. tte: cuts to find a that the calls on bso. just very briefly. t"t;a: cuts to find a that the government has enforced had an impact on vso, more than half its funding comes from the government and with that funding no longer guaranteed, it places the whole process in jeopardy. 200 people will be made redundant and many thousand are no longer able to do it.— longer able to do it. there are other charities _ longer able to do it. there are other charities feeling - longer able to do it. there are other charities feeling the - longer able to do it. there are i other charities feeling the pinch. these opportunities might wither in other areas too. find these opportunities might wither in other areas too.— these opportunities might wither in other areas too. and that's a shame because while _ other areas too. and that's a shame because while there _ other areas too. and that's a shame because while there sometimes - because while there sometimes criticism — because while there sometimes criticism about the amount of money that is— criticism about the amount of money that is invested overseas, when a lot of— that is invested overseas, when a lot of people think that money could be invested closer to home, a lot of people _ be invested closer to home, a lot of people in_ be invested closer to home, a lot of people in the uk have benefited from those _ people in the uk have benefited from those incredible experiences of going _ those incredible experiences of going overseas, volunteering, immersing themselves in another culture _ immersing themselves in another culture and actually coming back different — culture and actually coming back different. so it's very short—sighted to be cutting down at this time _ short—sighted to be cutting down at this time because both sides of the equation _ this time because both sides of the equation benefit.— equation benefit. let's finish with the daily star _ equation benefit. let's finish with the daily star on _ equation benefit. let's finish with the daily star on sunday. - maury walker dies at 97. lucy and i have admitted we are not keen followers of formula 1, but we did enjoy murray walker's commentary. joe, you're perhaps better place than either of us to pay tribute. household voice. in my household, my uncle was a racing driver in his youth and i use to very much enjoy watching formula 1 with my uncle, who sadly is no longer with us and i have very fond memories of those times in the era. with murray walker in the commentary box. those memories are provided by murray walker, and i think many people will be greatly saddened by his passing. i know a wonderful character. just briefly, his enthusiasm was infectious. even for those of us who knew nothing about motorsport. brute knew nothing about motorsport. we might not know anything about the sport. _ might not know anything about the sport. but— might not know anything about the sport, but we recognise his voice, described — sport, but we recognise his voice, described as a sounding like someone whose _ described as a sounding like someone whose trousers are on fire. when formula — whose trousers are on fire. when formula 1. — whose trousers are on fire. when formula 1, when murray walker was at his height. _ formula 1, when murray walker was at his height, this was when we had so few options— his height, this was when we had so few options of television, we didn't have hundreds of channels to choose from _ have hundreds of channels to choose from if _ have hundreds of channels to choose from if you — have hundreds of channels to choose from. if you wanted to watch television at all, you often had to watch _ television at all, you often had to watch formula 1 even though you weren't— watch formula 1 even though you weren't interested. i thought murray walker— weren't interested. i thought murray walker made engaging, made it sound exciting _ walker made engaging, made it sound exciting and really brought people who weren't inclined to it to watch it and _ who weren't inclined to it to watch it and enjoy — who weren't inclined to it to watch it and enjoy it. find who weren't inclined to it to watch it and enjoy it-_ it and en'oy it. and there was alwa s it and enjoy it. and there was always the — it and enjoy it. and there was always the odd _ it and enjoy it. and there was always the odd gaffe - it and enjoy it. and there was always the odd gaffe as - it and enjoy it. and there was always the odd gaffe as well. | it and enjoy it. and there was - always the odd gaffe as well. lucy, and joe it was a treat to have us with us. that's it for the papers this evening. do buy a paper or subscribe to one in the morning. coming up next, the film review. night night. night night. hello and welcome to the film review with me, mark kermode, rounding up the best new home viewing releases as we look forward to cinemas reopening in may. in the oscar—tipped current release the united states vs billie holiday, a federal agent with deeply divided loyalties is sent to infiltrate and undermine a powerful voice of civil rights. that scenario is echoed injudas and the black messiah, a gripping drama inspired by real events from director and co—writer shaka king. it's not a question of violence or nonviolence, it's a question of resistance to fascism or nonexistence within fascism! cheering.

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