Of people went out and got dogs um. You didnt want a dog weve been going running, weve been baking bread, and weve been making babies. Iyou cant go out, you cant reallyl see people as much, so maybe its time to settle down. We are kind of supporting one another. Eilidh set up a yoga class which is fantastic. Breathe out slowly. Its so nice to connect with other women who are going through a similar experience at the same time. | particularly as a first time mum, | not having any of the kind of baby groups and things that would normally be happening. But so much for the rule of six. I cant give you any names, they dont want to go public yet, but i can tell you there will be some more announcements on this street very soon. With babies on the way all the way through to august, it feels like an exciting and positive time. Hang on, five . Wheresjenny . Well, tonight, some breaking news. Jenny and rick have a baby daughter, summer, born this afternoon. The Cloudshill Avenue Lockdown baby boom is under way. Jon kay, bbc news, bristol. Thats it. Now on bbc one, time for the news where you are. Have a very good night. Hello, and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are the author and journalist, mihir bose, and former pensions minister baroness, ros altmann. Lets ta ke lets take a look at tomorrows front pages first. The metro leads with the vaccination programme. It says there are hopes that all over 50s could have covid jabs by the end of march. According to the daily mail, ministers are hoping to ease restrictions in may. The newspaper says it heard that from a whitehall source. But the guardian carries an interview withjeremy hunt, the former health secretary, who advises against lifting lockdown until coronavirus cases fall to 1,000 a day. The telegraph leads with the Hotel Quarantine plans for people arriving from coronavirus hotspots. It says ministers are racing to reserve more than 28,000 hotel rooms, in preparation for that Scheme Starting in mid february. And a different story in the Financial Times it reports on new proposals to shake up the audit industry, in the wake of Accounting Scandals at companies such as carillion and patisserie valerie. So lets begin now. Thank you both forjoining us this evening. Starting with the metros front page, nifty over 50 jobs. This front page talking all up, life could be back to normal over the summer, according to scientists, as we look to over 50 is having the vaccine. Hopefully all over 50s by eight 31st Of March . The vaccine. Hopefully all over 50s by eight 31st Of March . Vaccine. Hopefully all over 50s by eight 31st Of March . The over 50s count for 9996 eight 31st Of March . The over 50s count for 9996 of eight 31st Of March . The over 50s count for 99 of the eight 31st Of March . The over 50s count for 99 of the deaths eight 31st Of March . The over 50s i count for 99 of the deaths caused by covid. So if we can get people who are most at risk of dying vaccinated and protected, then of course its difficult to see why we would need to keep the restrictions, the draconian restrictions that weve got. So there is real light at the end of this tunnel, it seems, as a result of this Vaccine Programme. Now by the end of march it mayjust be the first jab, now by the end of march it mayjust be the firstjab, so we may need to weight a few weeks for the second. But we need to see if weve got two months supply guaranteed already and more coming on stream, this would mean that all the over 50s could be protected very soon. I mean that all the over 50s could be protected very soon. Protected very soon. I dont know about you. Protected very soon. I dont know about you, youre protected very soon. I dont know about you, youre obviously protected very soon. I dont know about you, youre obviously very l about you, youre obviously very young about you, youre obviously very young and about you, youre obviously very young and i about you, youre obviously very young and i cant believe youre over young and i cant believe youre over 50, young and i cant believe youre over50, but young and i cant believe youre over 50, but ive already had myjab and i over 50, but ive already had myjab and i was over 50, but ive already had myjab and i was told i might get a second ab and i was told i might get a second jab between 3 12 weeks. I agree with you, jab between 3 12 weeks. I agree with you. If jab between 3 12 weeks. I agree with you. If we jab between 3 12 weeks. I agree with you, if we have everything by 31 march, you, if we have everything by 31 march, then it could be relaxed, but it will march, then it could be relaxed, but it will all march, then it could be relaxed, but it will all depend on the second jab as welt it will all depend on the second jab as welt to it will all depend on the second jab as well. To a certain extent, i think as well. To a certain extent, i think we as well. To a certain extent, i think we should be careful that we dont think we should be careful that we dont go think we should be careful that we dont go too far down the road of thinking dont go too far down the road of thinking that liberation is coming. Remember what happened last summer when we remember what happened last summer when we thought Liberation Day was coming, when we thought Liberation Day was coming, freedom day, and the summer was more coming, freedom day, and the summer was more relaxed than the rest of the year~ was more relaxed than the rest of the year. But then we had a second and third the year. But then we had a second and third wave, and the whole idea of the and third wave, and the whole idea of the initial lockdown, if youll remember, borisjohnson emphasised remember, Boris Johnson emphasised was that remember, Boris Johnson emphasised was that we remember, borisjohnson emphasised was that we didnt want a second wave, was that we didnt want a second wave. And was that we didnt want a second wave, and wed already had more than two waves wave, and wed already had more than two waves. So we should be a bit more two waves. So we should be a bit more careful before hoping the doors will open more careful before hoping the doors will open to paradise. Gf more careful before hoping the doors will open to paradise. Will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have a will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have a vaccine will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have a vaccine at will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have a vaccine at that will open to paradise. Of course we didnt have a vaccine at that stage, j didnt have a vaccine at that stage, and we are into winter. We now have and we are into winter. We now have a vaccine and we are heading into summer. So i think weve got to get this in perspective. So many people are suffering terribly because of lockdown, so we need to give people hope and there is hope, real hope because of this brilliant Vaccine Programme. But because of this brilliant Vaccine Programme because of this brilliant vaccine rouramme. �. �. Programme. But also we didnt have variants coming programme. But also we didnt have variants coming in, programme. But also we didnt have variants coming in, remember . Programme. But also we didnt have variants coming in, remember . The| variants coming in, remember . The kentand variants coming in, remember . The kent and south african variants, the brazilian kent and south african variants, the brazilian variants, we didnt think there brazilian variants, we didnt think there would be variance. Of course we should there would be variance. Of course we should give people hope and keep our spirits we should give people hope and keep our spirits up, but we shouldnt be too optimistic because there is a danger too optimistic because there is a danger that that might lead to a Backlash Danger that that might lead to a backlash. A, ,. , danger that that might lead to a backlash. ,. Backlash. May be, but so far the variance seemed backlash. May be, but so far the variance seemed to backlash. May be, but so far the variance seemed to be, backlash. May be, but so far the variance seemed to be, from backlash. May be, but so far the l variance seemed to be, from what backlash. May be, but so far the variance seemed to be, from what we can see, also caught by the vaccine. I know that after all this time, its very easy to keep being despondent and keep thinking negatively. But at the end of the day, we have got to get back to life, we cant keep going on in this way. And whats the point of all the money that weve spent on the vaccines and all the time and energy, and misery that weve caused to so many people, and the holdups in Cancer Treatments and others if weve now got the vaccine, and were still saying, lets be careful and we cant get out of that. I do believe we are on the road to recovery now. Believe we are on the road to recovery now believe we are on the road to recovery now. Believe we are on the road to recove now. � ,. , recovery now. Thats a view that the dail mail recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree with. Recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree with. If recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree with. If we recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree with. If we look recovery now. Thats a view that the daily mail agree with. If we look at. Daily mail agree with. If we look at the front page, it says that most covert mek curbs to end in may. Is talking about looking through the vaccination programme, it says Boris Johnson has so far refused to set a target date for the end of lockdown. And who can blame him . Weve had a few target dates and weve swept past those. I few target dates and weve swept ast those. , � few target dates and weve swept past those past those. I dont think its wise to ick a past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date and past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date and say past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date and say will past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date and say will be past those. I dont think its wise to pick a date and say will be 0k| past those. I dont think its wise i to pick a date and say will be ok by then. And i wouldnt say that either. But i do think we are really on the road to recovery now, that we will be able to start easing restrictions. But as the Prime Minister says, this will be done cautiously, it wont be suddenly, right, the shackles are off. But these are crippling restrictions we are living under, and yes, some people are less affected than others, but i do think that with 3 million vaccines a week now being delivered and the success that we are seeing for this programme and the supplies that we have secured for the country, there really is a realistic hope. But i agree, we cant say definitely by may orjune, or whatever. I cant say definitely by may orjune, or whatever or whatever. I think whats interesting or whatever. I think whats interesting about or whatever. I think whats interesting about this or whatever. I think whats| interesting about this story or whatever. I think whats i interesting about this story is or whatever. I think whats interesting about this story is that the basis interesting about this story is that the basis of the males optimism, and theyve the basis of the males optimism, and theyve always been much more optimistic and theyve always been much more optimistic as to when we should be free of optimistic as to when we should be free of these restrictions, and im not a free of these restrictions, and im not a pessimist, i am a democrat an optimist. Not a pessimist, i am a democrat an optimist. Hut not a pessimist, i am a democrat an optimist, but i want to be a realist as well optimist, but i want to be a realist as well the optimist, but i want to be a realist as well. The basis of this story is that mark as well. The basis of this story is that mark harper, what we are seeing now is that mark harper, what we are seeing now is something thats been happening for some time, where we are seeing happening for some time, where we are seeing it very sharply in focus, theres are seeing it very sharply in focus, theres a are seeing it very sharply in focus, theres a divide between those who say, and theres a divide between those who say, and the Prime Minister in the government have always been saying, we should government have always been saying, we should follow the science. What many we should follow the science. What many mps we should follow the science. What many mps are saying, particularly on the tory many mps are saying, particularly on the tory backbench, is that we should the tory backbench, is that we should follow the science but not the scientists. And of course the scientists the scientists. And of course the scientists have been much more cautious. Scientists have been much more cautious, much more worried. And lets cautious, much more worried. And lets hope cautious, much more worried. And lets hope this whole thing lifts, but one lets hope this whole thing lifts, but one must also point out that the countries but one must also point out that the countries that have really, if you like, countries that have really, if you like. At countries that have really, if you like, at least not concord but gotten like, at least not concord but gotten this disease at bay, have been gotten this disease at bay, have been countries which have been very strict. Been countries which have been very strict. Like been countries which have been very strict, like australia, new zealand and east strict, like australia, new zealand and east asian countries. So that is something and east asian countries. So that is something we should bear in mind without something we should bear in mind without in something we should bear in mind without in any way being pessimistic that these without in any way being pessimistic that these researches will go on forever~ that these researches will go on forever. 0f that these researches will go on forever. Of course they cant. Thats forever. Of course they cant. Thats right, and i think thats how people are feeling generally, you know, that we are almost a year on, were coming into summer, weve actually got vaccines that work and we are rolling them out and getting the people who are most vulnerable and most likely to die the over 50s, and most likely to die the over 505, 99 and most likely to die the over 50s, 99 of deaths are in the over 50s. That would be a massive change. Weve already seen a 23 fall in the deaths and a 25 fall in hospital admissions. So we have got some good news, im not saying its over at all, but i do think we need to be more optimistic than we were before because they are good reasons to be. Lets talk about the independent� s front page, because that takes more a viewpoint thats on your side. Health leaders warned over lockdown complacency. This front page talking about yvonne doyle, the leader of Public Health england, warning against complacency about covid 19. Its a warning basically that counteracts the political pressure on the government, doesnt it, from certain parts of the government including the cove at macquarie Recovery Group of conservative mps to stop lockdown covid 19 mps. Conservative mps to stop lockdown covid19 mps covid19 mps. There is a divide between the covid19 mps. There is a divide between the scientists covid19 mps. There is a divide between the scientists and covid19 mps. There is a divide between the scientists and the | between the scientists and the politicians. I think its fair to say politicians. I think its fair to say that politicians. I think its fair to say that roz has been a lockdown sceptic, say that roz has been a lockdown sceptic, which is a reasonable position sceptic, which is a reasonable position to take. But the fact that the scientists said, but if you remember before the lockdown came, the forecast given was we couldve had a the forecast given was we couldve had a quarter of a Million Deaths nobody had a quarter of a Million Deaths nobody expected more than 100,000 deaths nobody expected more than 100,000 deaths that weve now got. Sir Patrick Deaths that weve now got. Sir Patrick Vallance said if its 20,000, Patrick Vallance said if its 20,000, that would be, as it were, a reasonable 20,000, that would be, as it were, a reasonable figure. So the deaths have reasonable figure. So the deaths have risen, all sorts of things have happened. Have risen, all sorts of things have happened, there have been failures in policy happened, there have been failures in policy happened, there have been failures in policy perhaps understandable given in policy perhaps understandable given the in policy perhaps understandable given the nature of the pandemic. But the given the nature of the pandemic. But the fact is we still need to follow but the fact is we still need to follow notjust but the fact is we still need to follow not just blindly follow the scientists, but we need to be worried scientists, but we need to be worried about where the next turn of this disease worried about where the next turn of this disease might lead us. | worried about where the next turn of this disease might lead us. This disease might lead us. I agree we need to this disease might lead us. I agree we need to be this disease might lead us. I agree we need to be vigilant, this disease might lead us. I agree we need to be vigilant, of this disease might lead us. I agree we need to be vigilant, of course l this disease might lead us. I agree i we need to be vigilant, of course we do. But we cant live in lockdown, and lockdown has costs as well, costs and terms of lives and health, Mental Health and physical health. And thats why if weve got this vaccine and this vaccine is doing what it is supposed to do, which is protecting people and saving them from dying of covid 19 and even being admitted to hospital with covid 19, which is what we have already seen indications of, than there are real reasons to say we can fight ourselves forever that there might be a new variant or a new strain, or there might be this or that. New strain, or there might be this orthat. But new strain, or there might be this or that. But at the end of the day, what we saw last year was a series of mistakes which now has turned around into a real success story. The problem we had last year, lets face it, was test and trace failed. Not only did tests and trays fail, but we never really did the isolate bit. Test and trace. And if youre finding these people and they dont isolate, that wont stop the spread. But once you got the vaccine in place and once people are protected, then you have to worry a lot less. 0bviously protected, then you have to worry a lot less. Obviously if the vaccine doesnt work on these strains, we will find that. But the indications so far are that the vaccine does work, and there are new vaccines under way which will be delivered in the next few months which will also cope with the other new variants, and theyre already being prepared for that. But and theyre already being prepared for that. � ,. For that. But we still have an implement for that. But we still have an implement it for that. But we still have an implement it a for that. But we still have an implement it a proper for that. But we still have an implement it a proper policy| for that. But we still have an i implement it a proper policy of quarantining people who come abroad. That is quarantining people who come abroad. That is something we shouldve done along that is something we shouldve done along time that is something we shouldve done along time ago and we still havent. If along time ago and we still havent. If you along time ago and we still havent. If you look along time ago and we still havent. If you look at the countries who have if you look at the countries who have done if you look at the countries who have done well, korea, all east asia, have done well, korea, all east asia. Look have done well, korea, all east asia, look the australian open, it may or asia, look the australian open, it may or may asia, look the australian open, it may or may not start because of new cases may or may not start because of new cases that may or may not start because of new cases that have come in melbourne, the tennis cases that have come in melbourne, the tennis players were all put in a hotel the tennis players were all put in a hotel for the tennis players were all put in a hotel for 14 the tennis players were all put in a hotel for 14 days. We shouldve done that long hotel for 14 days. We shouldve done that long time ago. That long time ago. Thats exactly what i said. That long time ago. Thats exactly what i said, we that long time ago. Thats exactly what i said, we never that long time ago. Thats exactly what i said, we never did that long time ago. Thats exactly what i said, we never did the what i said, we never did the isolate bit, and i agree with you. But now that we have the vaccine, thats a lot less a concern. Clearly we are in the position where we dont want to bring in lots of new variants, and from 15 to february, the government has now announced that quarantine for those who are travelling into the country will start ten days quarantine in an Airport Hotel at the expense of the traveller. Now thats proper isolation. But so far, that bit has been missing, whereas in other east asian countries, in australia and korea, in the other countries, and new zealand, for example, they did do the isolation. Now that weve got the vaccine, that is an alternative way of controlling this virus and this terrible disease, and reducing the costs that we are all undergoing. Weve got to get