Transcripts For BBCNEWS The Papers 20240713

An independent investigation. With me are robert fox the defence editor of the Evening Standard and ruth lea economic adviser at arbuthnot banking. Many of tomorrows front pages are already in. An emotional reunion for a mother and son on the front of the Financial Times which says a prisoner swap between ukraine and russian rebels raises hopes for a final truce. The new years honours data leak which saw the addresses of around 1000 people including high profile celebrities being published online could cost tens of millions of pounds thats according to the i. The daily mail investigates what they call a £10 billion rogue pensions scandal saying thousands have lost their nest eggs in schemes sanctioned by the government. Another pension story in the daily express albeit more positive. The paper says that thanks to the re election of borisjohnson as Prime Minister that Retirement Funds will boom. Farfrom home the guardian claim critically ill children are being rushed from one part of england to another because nhs hospitals are running short of beds. The us launches its biggest attack in a decade on iran backed militias is a story on the front page of the times after the United States bomobed militant positions in both iraq and syria. The sun runs the headline the fLake District after the head of the Lake District National Park authority says the area is failing to attract enough black and minority ethnic visitors and must be more diverse. The anti semitic attack in new york state. A dreadful story. It was an attack in a home which also served asa attack in a home which also served as a Meeting Place to celebrate chanukah, the festival of light, and this alleged attacker came in and he had a terrific weapon which injured three people, the fact that it was only injury is really quite something and a lot of raven quick thinking people through chairs at him. 0ver thinking people through chairs at him. Over the road whether synagogue is situated, they bowed and bolted it. But the fact that this is serious has been witnessed by what bill deblasio, the mayor has said but also the governor, andrew cuomo, has said that police should double patrols and that is what we are finding in london and other cities in the uk that this is on the increase and its a widespread phenomenon on and ive just been reading the slate on this and there isa reading the slate on this and there is a lot more going on than might appear. Its the steady rise of this which has been so worrying, both in the us and in europe and the uk. Absolutely and when you are mentioning the actions of the people within the synagogue, shades of london bridge. People actually prepared to risk their lives and limbs in orderto prepared to risk their lives and limbs in order to control the situation like this but a list take Roberts Point that it seems as if its a rising problem throughout the western world and we are only too aware of the problems that are here of course, not least of all with the corbynistas, the anti semitism, the aggressive anti israel, anti zionist attitude that spills over and we know people like Luciana Bergerand and we know people like Luciana Berger and others have had the most appalling things said about them and when i saw this story and in this graffiti on belsize park, it really does make your heart sink. What is wrong with people . Does make your heart sink. What is wrong with people . I really, really despair. That can be composed of all forms of hate crimes. There is a rise of anti semitism, the ethnic based racism as well. Just going back to what happened in new york state, dont think its sad that like you the synagogue, they shot their doors. They were aware of what they had to do. Because of that rise and the incidents that are taking place. Both the mayor and the governor is saying there has been a steady rise and we are really concerned about it. The president has tweeted as well. Lets turn to the front page of the guardian. Rebecca long bailey has made her picture leadership. Here it is now. She is avoiding direct criticism of Jeremy Corbyn but is being seen as the heirtojeremy Jeremy Corbyn but is being seen as the heir to Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn but is being seen as the heir toJeremy Corbyn is going to talk about progressive patriotism. I have no idea what that is. I dont know. We all agog to know that means but its interesting, well have to wait and see for this to be confirmed, that heard deputy will be andrew rayner, the shadow education secretary at the shadow education secretary at the moment and it would create a female working class joint ticket and a mancunian one at that because i think as you are saying in the first half, with this win elections . Im fascinated by progressive patriotism. Its a mantra. Isee this, and im an observer, i dont do mainstream uk politics but i am deeply involved and interested. This is the product of the ed miliband, £3, £5 membership vote. You have a mass membership which is driven by momentum and so mass membership which is driven by momentum and so on. Mass membership which is driven by momentum and so on. I long bailey is very likely to get the leadership. I dont think she has a snowball s chance of winning a general election outright in the uk in the way that the poles are now. In the way that borisjohnson the poles are now. In the way that Boris Johnson and dominic the poles are now. In the way that borisjohnson and Dominic Cummings stole, as someone put it, but managed to grab the working class labour vote and there is a very interesting patriotism point which i find strange and this is not my idea, a friend of mine put it to me and said where the wall crumbled is in areas curiously of very high military recruiting. If you think back to when the army particularly, and the navy were much bigger than they are now, youve got hundreds of thousands of people with a military connection and i know from the trends that they didnt like the sta nce trends that they didnt like the stance of Jeremy Corbyn trends that they didnt like the stance ofJeremy Corbyn but above all, john mcdonald. You said she may well be elected but may not be able to win an election so in what way does the membership reflect whats going on out there . |j does the membership reflect whats going on out there . I dont think they do. I thinkjohn mcdonald said, he described it as a party but an area, a region that i much more familiar with where you talk about movement, movimiento in italian, not asa movement, movimiento in italian, not as a party as a movement. Maybe half as a party as a movement. Maybe half a million. It doesnt represent the whole nation. Who do you think should throw their hat in the ring. The middle ranking suggestions. Yvette cooper. Not to the membership because the membership is extremely left wing. Emily thornbury, no. Clive lewis, no. Ithink left wing. Emily thornbury, no. Clive lewis, no. I think were looking at two or three years down the line, a really big shift in british politics. Its whats going to happen in that chasm in the middle. Lets turn to the times and something taking place in iran, iraq and syria, the us effectively attacking iran. Quite right. This is quite serious, us airstrikes against a hezbollah formation, hezbollah means pa rty of a hezbollah formation, hezbollah means party of god. They have cloned it in syria and iraq mac. This is a militant shiite movement. Something has happened in the history of warfare, i call it, the hezbollahficati. It was a party, a militia that has become an army. Hezbollah was funded in lebanon. They started a really big car bomb strike in the early 1980s. To keep assad in power, curiously, you need this kind of force which has been created or midwives, if i can put it like that, by iran. Im not surprised that it has come to this. This has been on the way. I was writing about this 14 months ago. Its the new hezbollah, the new militia. They are not armies directly under the regime, in fact, they are fighting some of the people. You look thoroughly confused so they ought to be. One of the things over the Christmas Period is the roiling middle east, there is a real mess in syria, attacks on it live, libya is an incredible mess. A fight with mafia gangs. All im saying, good for the times, this is probably just the beginning saying, good for the times, this is probablyjust the beginning of a new phase. What i was thinking of, bigger picture, this idea of continuing spheres of influence. What concerns me about this is as robert was saying, these are iranians, bolstering assad. The assad goes, who is going to replace him . As appalling as assad is, he is possibly the least worst option for syria and has had this dreadful civil war. Can you imagine what its like living there . Civil war. Can you imagine what its like living there . I cant see any resolution to syria at the moment. Robert is closer to these issues thanl robert is closer to these issues than i am. I wish i knew where this was going. What i would say quick as the us does seem to have a somewhat ambivalent relationship about getting involved in the middle east. 0ne getting involved in the middle east. One minute, pulling troops alison deserting Kurdish Forces which fought so bravely in syria next minute, attacking the iranians backed militia. What do they are dont know. Countering russian backed. Across. One thing i do predict is that 2020 will be a big year of predict is that 2020 will be a big yearof iran. We predict is that 2020 will be a big year of iran. We will be hearing a lot about iranians activity. You will be hearing from us, wont you . Ruth, take us through the front page story of the daily mail. All sorts of people in the Public Sector were persuaded to transfer the Public Sector pensions into, quote, their nest eggs, into rogue schemes, rogue pension schemes and a lot of them seem to have lost substantial amounts of money. They are discussed in the centre of the daily mail but i wont go into details. They were enrolled with the hmrc and the pensions regulator. If they really are rogue schemes and are so incredibly useless and losing such a lot of money, you have to ask, why have these been going on for so long . What has the pensions regulator been doing in order to interfere with these rogue schemes . It seems to me it was a scandal in the making. What should people be doing . You should be careful. People buying pension advice from cold calls and i am not going to name him because it is delicate but they named an introducer who is the daily mail claims had a government cover to do this and he went around saying i am a government advisor. This has been running since 2010 then somebody really is culpable. Letsjust finish on the front page of the times. What has the come up top of . Top of the pops the number of engagements. The new firm, he and his sister. This is the young generation and they are 70 plus 1027 engagement a year. I could not do that in ten years. This is the young generation. It is the beginning of the slowing down of the monarchy. Thank you for watching. Front pages all on the webpage. If you have missed the Programme Watch it back via the iplayer. Stay with us, more coming up. It back via the iplayer. Stay with us, more coming up. Untilthen, goodbye