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Of the partys defeat. Ac milan are the latest club to condemn a new anti Racism Campaign in italys top league. Posters show pictures of monkeys with painted faces. Half a million hotpoint and indesit washing machines are to be recalled because their door locking system could be a fire risk. A lucky escape on one of londons busiest roads, and the celebrity who came to the rescue. And coming up on the programme thirty years of the simpsons well be speaking to the show runner, aljean. Good evening. John worboys, the serial sex offender whos been injailfor ten years, has been sentenced again this time, two life terms for attacking four more women. The court heard that worboys who drugged women in the back of his black cab remains as dangerous as ever. He now calls himselfjohn radford. As our special correspondent lucy manning explains, the women came forward last year after the controversy surrounding the possibility of his release. The black cab rapist would have been freed. Instead, he could now spend the rest of his life in prison. The authorities had said he was safe to release. Now, they say, hesjust as dangerous as he was a decade ago. Worboys used his taxi to pick up women, drug and assault them. But its his victims who fought back against a system that wanted to release him. Hed been sent to jail ten years ago, then, last year, the parole board said he should be let out. Victims challenged this in the high court, while others came forward, insisting the Police Investigate their cases. He should die in prison. You cant rehabilitate that kind of offending. Becky houlston thinks she is one of around 100 victims. She claims worboys tried to drug her when he worked in bournemouth. She was interviewed by the police but prosecutors decided, although they didnt disbelieve her, there wasnt enough evidence to get a conviction. Really, it needs to be used as a benchmark example of how the Justice System is failing particularly women and the sentencing for sex crimes. You think this is a massive failure by the Justice System . Yes, absolutely. And, you know, no victims should be having to come together in numbers to get criminal proceedings against someone whos proven to be a multiple offender. Today, worboys sat in the dock, guilty of another four attacks, as the judge jailed him for life but said that he could apply for parole in six years. The judge told john worboys, i am satisfied you are a continuing risk. You are currently dangerous. She said, i do not know when, if ever, you will cease to be a risk. You may never be released. But a lawyer for some of worboys victims is worried he could still leave prison. After the sentencing today, the worry is he could be out again after a few years, he will go to the parole board and put a case for being released after only six years and that is a real concern for the victims. The tools of a rapist. The taxi he picked women up in. The alcohol he used to drug them and the contraceptives he kept with him. How did anyone think this serial sex attacker should be freed . Nick hardwick was sacked because the parole board decided just that. The right way to deal with these allegations was to have them at last properly investigated by the police and then dealt with in public, in front of a judge. The parole board is only going to be as good as the evidence that is put before it and, in this case, the information it had was incomplete. John worboys will appeal his sentence, but demand a judge called manipulative and dangerous will now return to prison. He could have been walking free last year had it not been for the courage and determination of his victims. And well find out how this story and many others borisjohnson has addressed his new cabinet for the first time, and promised to work flat out to repay the trust of those who voted for him. But labour has issued a warning about the Prime Ministers first significant move adding a new clause to the withdrawal bill to ensure that further brexit talks will have to be concluded by ths Time Next Year. Heres our deputy political editor, john pienaar. Are we here . Not a hair in place. Its showtime. His time. His cabinet, chorusing his pledges, panto style. And how many new hospitals are we going to build . All 40. Correct. How many more nurses are we going to hire . 50,000. You know. The cabinet looks the same for now but their new mission is to deliver on brexit, for the party and for old and new tory voters. The brexit secretary had private doubts but sources say he was overruled. So, by law, britains to be clear of eu rules by the end of 2020, with or without a negotiated eu trade deal. Is that deadline a real one . The deadlines meant to build pressure for an agreement next year. Critics claim a messy exit may mean a no deal outcome has grown more likely. Keen brexiteers look happy. A promise to stick to eu rules on workers rights is being dropped, though the employment secretary insists rights will be strengthened by british law. Britains still divided, though borisjohnsons firmly in charge. But both main leaders, the victor and his beaten rival, lead parties that are seeking a new way. The tories to keep power, labour to somehow win it back. The commons looks the same today, but it isnt. Far fewer labour mps than before and the new speaker, dragged by tradition to the chair, will have an easier job than the last one. Why . Prime minister. Cheering. Because the Prime Ministers command of the commons is total. I mean absolutely no disrespect to those who are no longer with us, mr speaker, but i think that this parliament is a vast improvement on its predecessor. This parliament is not going to waste the time of the nation in deadlock and division and delay. Mr speaker, i wonder if you can guess what this parliament is going to do once we put the Withdrawal Agreement back. We are going to get brexit done. From the loser, a very different tone. We are going to get brexit done. From the loser, a very different tone. I would like to offer my congratulations to the Prime Minister on winning the election and being returned to office and i want to pay tribute to those members, from my party particularly, who sadly lost their seats in the election. The Prime Minister, in the campaign, made many, many promises and therefore has tremendous responsibilities to live up to. Mr speaker elect, the expanded snp Westminster Group welcomes you to your new role. These are uncertain and challenging times. The public are now looking at this place for leadership. We owe it to all of us, all of those who put their trust in us, to conduct debate here with respect. Borisjohnson won but he is facing new struggles, over Scottish Independence and shaping britains post brexit future. The battle to lead and reshape the losing side has begun and, as i speak, in a private mass meeting here, mps are facing off against the leader many of them blame for labours disastrous defeat. I swear by almighty god that i will be faithful. They are still swearing in mps. Its a Different Parliament now, but likely wont be easy for anyone. Jeremy corbyn has received a muted reception as he arrived to a meeting of labour mps in parliament. Its the first meeting of the parties mps since the parties disasterious performance in the election last week. Our Political Correspondent iain watson is in central lobby for us. A muted reception with some real anger there as well. It is going on twice as long as normally a parliamentary meeting would. We were in the corridor outside some of the people who have come out who have told us what is going on in there. One of them said nine out of ten contributions were critical of Jeremy Corbyn and the newly elected mps are very close toJeremy Corbyn who stood up and defended him. One of them to the rise of laughter as she said the reality is we lost the election but people wanted hope and redistribution and there was giggling around the room. Others have been very critical across a range of issues but it was not that they were attacking him personally oi they were attacking him personally or his politics, some set the mood was more sombre than angry but the situation was that he was attacked for his leadership and then criticised for the way the campaign was run but lots of organisational criticism as well. Some people from northeast england suffered losses and what of white activists are being encouraged to go across the country and even while activists. That level already, but there was some real anger not to some people what survived the election but those lost as well. So my colleague ran into defeated candidate who had run into defeated candidate who had run intojeremy into defeated candidate who had run into Jeremy Corbyn into defeated candidate who had run intoJeremy Corbyn was taking self is the young people and told john but her views were and ofJeremy Corbyns activities. But her views were and ofJeremy Corbyns activities. I saw him taking us pictures of these young people, he should be apologising to them for bequeathing them five years of tory government and possibly a very ha rd of tory government and possibly a very hard praise that at the end of next year, denying them the right to work abroad. Brexit. This was his campaign, his manifesto, his brexit position run by his team and it is his failure to tackle anti semitism and bullying in our party to be a competent leader that is led to this grievous defeat. Incompetent. Competent leader that is led to this grievous defeat. Incompetent. The anti semitism issue made it so labour was having difficulty presenting itself as an anti racist party. Replacing Jeremy Corbyn would be either rigged or fixed party. Replacing Jeremy Corbyn would be either rigged orfixed by party. Replacing Jeremy Corbyn would be either rigged or fixed by the leadership, and some of us on staff will be sacked from some of the parliamentary labour party. The vetera n parliamentary labour party. The veteran labour party told us after the meeting that there was a mixture of anger, fury, despair and denial. Soi of anger, fury, despair and denial. So i suppose it is unsurprising when labour ended up getting the smallest number of seats in Parliament Since 1935 and Jeremy Corbyns point of view, he said that he apologised for the defeat and apologised for his responsibility in the defeat and to those mps who have lost their seats but he did claim a range of factors, including the media and including brexit and certainly felt that the postmortem to labours defeat had to go much more wide, much more deep than that. In effect, labour had ignored, industrialised over a0 yea rs ignored, industrialised over a0 years and not given the jobs that people needed. So i think rather than people calling forJeremy Corbyn to go right now, a lot of them are focusing on who will replace in which leadership candidates are going to be announced in the next few weeks. Well, lets get some more on all this from with conservative mp ben bradley. Pretty raucous and upbeat on the conservative benches. Congratulations, you increase your majority very substantially. So you must be feeling very chipper. Now the hard work starts and how are you going to hang onto all of those voters who would not have voted conservative before but have done so now . I think the atmosphere in parliament has been incredible over the past few days and i do not know half of my colleagues and i often learn their names. But in places like that, conservative overnight, we we re like that, conservative overnight, we were in some cases, you deserve other challenges forJeremy Corbyn and the labour party saying the right things and i think we had a good message but we still have not regained the trust of communities of interest in politics is so low. You have to prove a point and get brexit sorted and deliver on the other promises to invest in Public Services and rebalance our economies and providejobs services and rebalance our economies and provide jobs and services and rebalance our economies and providejobs and opportunities for those people in the country. The message clearly resounded on the doorstep and you have been endorsed, but they will look at the last nine yea rs but they will look at the last nine years and think theyre very conservative government in place for all of this time and those Public Services have not been invested in. Why should that change now . We are not in 2010, the economy is in a different position and this is not a David Cameron government. In looking ata David Cameron government. In looking at a different Prime Minister, a different economic challenge and we are trying to restore their trust and deliver them brexit, but actually the world is our oyster, the kinds of community that backed us the kinds of community that backed us of the first time who have had labour representatives for many of them years. Prime minister has been talking about this blue collar agenda, investing in the public service, particularly those in the lower income brackets that voted conservative this time rely on and investing in our regional economy town deals in the midlands and the north are going to come of the ability, intelligence, is not focused in the your greatest asset was Jeremy Corbyn, we look at the share of the vote nationally, the conservative vote nationally, the conservative vote went up by one point. The labour fell by eight points. A resounding victory for Boris Johnson and more of a loss forJeremy Corbyn. The contrast because forces been decisive on what she wants to deliver whichjeremy been decisive on what she wants to deliver which Jeremy Corbyn been decisive on what she wants to deliver whichJeremy Corbyn needs position on the key issues his position on the key issues his position on the key issues changed. But it is notjust about him, some personal issues they hurt a lot, i would never put that man and number ten. I would would never put that man and number ten. Iwould never would never put that man and number ten. I would never put that man number ten. Some of that is about him and the alleged links to terrorism in his career. But it is about the message and communities like the midlands and their grafting for low wages, they do not want to be told that the privileged elite will never let them succeed and there is no point in aspiring to anything, that is not a message of hope that people want to buy into. They want government to lay out the opportunities and the potential for them to get on the dew of the families and to aspire to things i think we far better at that if labour, orjust going to blame Jeremy Corbyn, i feel they will fall short. You are a relative veteran, what advice do you have for the new mps coming in . I dont remember a lot of mind because of such an emotional thing, a privilege to walk in and every positive atmosphere for them. So i would say take your time, we have five years and you need to grow into thisjob, we have five years and you need to grow into this job, learned lessons from people like me who has messed things up in the past and it is a huge opportunity for us to do things of the positive in this majority to deliver this week and over christmas come tojust enjoy deliver this week and over christmas come to just enjoy it in the real work starts in january. Many thanks indeed. Conservative mp, thank you for joining indeed. Conservative mp, thank you forjoining us. And well find out how this story and many others are covered in tomorrows front pages at 10 a0 and 11 30 this evening in the papers our guests joining me tonight are the former conservative pensions minister, baroness ros altmann and the economist and member of labours policy forum, grace blakeley. Half a million washing machines in the uk made by whirlpool are being recalled because of a danger of catching fire. The firm says a fault with their door locking system may cause them to overheat. The models are sold under the brand names indesit or hotpoint and were manufactured between october 201a and february 2018. Owners now face the prospect of going without hot washes for months until they are fixed or replaced. Our Business Correspondent Simon Gompertz has more its just what you didnt want in the run up to christmas, a warning not to use your washing machine. Steve in essex knows why, after his machine began to smoulder. Next thing i could smell burning, had some smoke drifting out of there, jumped up, turned the plug off, took the washing out and you could really smell it. Whirlpool says the electronic door locks are to blame and customers will have to wait for a repair or replacement. We know this will cause some concern and we especially understand that the washing machine is so important to family life. And here at the Christmas Holiday season, we know it will be even more of an important matter for our customers and for that, we apologise. Whirlpools reputation has already been tarnished by fires caused by tumble dryers. So far, the washing machine fires, 79 of them to date, havent been as bad as this from a dryer. Theyve only affected the appliance itself and the area just around. But look at this burnt out washing machine door lock. So this is a picture of the door lock that is actually failing at the moment. Colin, an engineer in newcastle, has been dealing with two or three of them a week on hotpoint and indesit machines. Quite often, we find there is actually signs of burning to the door lock wire and harness. Sometimes, ive actually even seen burn marks up the inside of the cabinet of the washing machine before, so it looks like theres been a little mini fire there, but the customer actually hasnt known anything about it. So whats the problem with the door mechanism in these washers . Well, when the heating element is switched on, thats what heats up the water in the machine, there is a high electric current coming through and theres a danger that the electronics which allow you to open the door at the right moment, well, they can overheat and thats what creates the risk of fire. You can ring whirlpools helpline to find out if your washer is affected. Theres also a website, but thats been down for much of today. If the machine is on the list, the company says its best to just take out the plug. But you can lower the risk by reducing the temperature to 20 degrees or less. Despite the frustration, Safety Experts say its right to have a recall. In the uk, we have excellent Safety Standards but occasionally things go wrong. Thats why its important that when manufacturers become aware, they can contact their customers so they can rectify the problem. Whirlpool is a huge, International Company and will expect to ride this out. But the brands will take a battering if customers have to wait months before they can do their washing properly. Liverpool have named their Youngest Team ever as they take on aston villa in the quarterfinals of the league cup. The match is being played the day before liverpools Club World Cup semi final in doha for whichjurgen klopp and the senior squad have already flown out. And aston villa, whove made 10 changes from their last game, are already 2 0 up. Conor hourihane and a morgan boyes own goal. Hes one of five liverpool youngsters making their debuts, the average age of the team is 19 and a half. Theres one fa cup second round replay being played tonight, its currently plymouth argyle 0 bristol rovers 0 the first game finished 1 1. Arsenal are in talks with their former captain and current Manchester City assistant coach mikel arteta about the vacant managers job at the emirates. Its the second time hes come into the frame after being interviewed following Arsene Wenger s departure. He narrowly lost out to the more experienced unai emery who was sacked last month. Arteta made 150 appearances for arsenal between 2011 and 2016. Club bosses have been spotted outside artetas house, but guardiola insists hes still a Manchester City coach for now. Isa is a part of our group and our staff and so, when we have any news, we will know it and he will travel with us, trained Carlo Ancelotti is understood to be evertons first choice to be their new manager following the sacking of marco silva. Ancellotti was dismissed by napoli last week and during his time in england won the premier league and the fa cup in 2010 with chelsea. Everton say the club have held meetings with a number of candidates. Duncan ferguson remains in caretaker charge for tomorrows carabao cup quarter final against leciester. I was gutted and gave a pretty intense interview afterwards that people come as quite hard to watch andi people come as quite hard to watch and i was emotional and it showed me that i still can mixing with the worlds best in people thought, we forgot about him, he can still run and that is what i can do with the full year of training, ill show you, going into the next year, it is all guns blazing and we are good to go. There was a good win for englands women overnight in the first t20 international against pakistan. Opener amyjones top scored with a half century as england reached 15a for four from their 20 overs. Henry moran was watching in kuala lumpur. A winning start against pakistan, a crucial phase in the build up towards the world cup come february. It was not all englands way, pakistan looked at a time, a position to cause a bit of a shock but in the end, the 15a and 153 from amyjones was enough with england winning by 29 runs. The pick of the boulders, three wickets for her and encumbrance of victory in the end for england to get this phase of the tour off the perfect start. We did good to get to 116, we really obtained the field. So we are happy we got there in the end. The bullets did a greatjob. We got there in the end. The bullets did a great job. This concludes with two t 20s and will be looking to see maximum heading towards australia in february. The report by three goals to nil and along with all day sport, and sports day at half past ten. The top Italian Football League serie a are facing heavy criticism over a new say no to Racism Campaign using images of monkeys. The league says the piece, now on display at their headquarters, promotes multi culturalism and brother hood. But clubs are now distancing themselves from the campaign. The artist, simone fugazzotto, defended his work saying the intentions were good. This reaction for me, from my point of view shows how, you know, the mind is twisted by all the things that are happening right now. Because a pure mind, a pure heart, without any, i dont know the word in english, but a pure heart can see this campaign as a really huge step against racism because its really great. Because its really brave. Some of italys biggest clubs have criticised the campaign. Ac milan said art can be powerful, but we strongly disagree with the use of monkeys as images in the fight against racism as roma also criticised the campaign, they said the campaign follows a string of recent racist incidents in italian football, in september, cagliari fans made monkey noises at inter milans romelu lukaku. A month later, Mario Balotelli was subjected to monkey chants from brescia fans. And earlier this month, the italian newspaper corriere dello sport was criticised for the headline black friday alongside images of roma defender Chris Smalling and inter striker lukaku prior to a match between the sides. Welljoining me now is former chairman of the professional footballers association, anti racism and Mental Health campaigner clarke ca rlisle. Listening to the artist there, the intent seem to be benign but what misfired . Art can be very abstract and like they said, it can be very powerful but what i believe that this piece has done is highlighted the chasm that there is between the majority in the minority and their understanding of the images that carry so understanding of the images that carry so much weight. And do you think that this is a particular problem in italian football . Racism isa problem in italian football . Racism is a problem in the game and perhaps this is a problem in the game and processes the response. Lead us not be hoodwinked that it is solely a problem in italy, one of the most televised and eagerly anticipated events in our country. Recently a fan monkey chanting on the front row of the stands and let us not think that this is solely an italian problem. But before we get to the issue in football, will we tend to do is smoke screen over the entirety of racism with that society and it is really important to highlight that there are certain images and icons and words that were misappropriated and what is not understood by the majority, usually the caucasian majority, is the weight that is borne by these images because of the suffering that happened under their image. We are talking about a white hood, we are talking about a white hood, we are talking about a swastika, were talking about a swastika, were talking about a swastika, were talking about monkeys. These are images that i dont believe could be reappropriated because they signified terrible errors for humanity and some incredible periods of suffering for especially black and ethnic minority cultures. What i meant was it is hard to imagine the English Football Association commissioning Something Like this and they wonder if there is a new element of naivete going on here . That is a very good point and i would love to think that our governing bodies or do Something Like this. But the important point made by the larger clubs in italy is the fact that he went on without consultation. If this is going to be an issue we tackle as a society in sport, football as an industry. It is really important that all of the stakeholders are invested in that programme, and whatever that initiative is, or will be duly undermined. It should be commended to put on anti discrimination and inclusive initiative, but to do it the right way, they need to make sure that they have ironically included all of the stakeholders within that sport. Some of italys biggest clubs are distancing themselves from this so there is an understanding that this is really com pletely understanding that this is really completely inappropriate. Definitely, there is an understanding across the majority of society that this is an appropriate, but the fact that it has happened highlights that theres still much more to be done. On the england side, what happened in the immediate aftermath of the fan in Manchester City in him being identified and banned from the game, these are things that should be put forward to give us faith in the system, to give us give us faith in the system, to give us faith in the governing bodies and when Something Like that comes to the fore, it seriously undermines progress that is being made. Now its time for a look at the weather with stav daneos. Hello there. A ridge of High Pressure will be building in across the country overnight and that will settle things down. It will turn driver all areas, bar the odd shower around, but the winds will fall light and with still cool air mass in place, it is going to turn cold for pretty much all areas only from for pretty much all areas away from the southwest and the reason the southwest will stay less cold is because this area of low pressure will bring windier and cloudier conditions. Mist and fog developing through central northern parts of england and well see a pretty widespread frost across some Northern Areas. So a cold frosty start on wednesday some sunshine around, mist and fog could cause some issues, could be quite dense in places but as the wind picks up, it will start to lift and push in to low cloud and move northwards. Further south and west, it turns whether and windier with gales developing here but it will also turn gradually mileage here too. It is unsubtle to end the week, both thursday and friday look mild 01 certainly on thursday. It will be quite windy with furthering at times, some of which will be heavier in places. Hello this is bbc news. The headlines. John worboys the so called black cab rapist has been jailed for life at the old bailey with a minimum term of six years, for attacking four more victims. John worboys is an incredibly manipulative and dangerous individual and obviously whilst we welcome the life sentence today, the real concern is he could be out after only a few years. Boris johnson returns to the dispatch box he says therell be a new law to finish brexit talks by the end of next year. Meanwhile tonight Jeremy Corbyn has been facing his backbench labour colleagues many furious at the scale of the partys defeat. Ac milan are the latest club to condemn a new anti Racism Campaign in italys top league. Posters show pictures of monkeys with painted faces. Half a million hotpoint and indesit washing machines are to be recalled because their door locking system could be a fire risk. And coming up on the programme thirty years of the simpsons well be speaking to the shows executive producer, al jean. Lets return to politics and the Prime Minister has held his first Cabinet Meeting since his election victory and promised to pass a law ruling out any extension to the Brexit Process beyond the end of next year. Critics are saying that ruling out an extention increases the chance of leaving the eu without a trade deal. With me is dominic walsh, a policy analyst at open europe, which is a eurosceptic think tank focusing on relationship of uk and eu after brexit. Also im joined via webcam by dia chakravarty, brexit editor of the daily telegraph. Very good evening to both of you. Dominic, first of all, what do you make of this pledge to enshrined in law the leaving by this Time Next Year . I dont think the actual legal pledge in terms of enshrining this and the Withdrawal Agreement bill really matters that much in legal terms, what borisjohnson is effectively doing is kind of forbidding himself of doing something that he was not going to do anyway. Hes already said that hes not going to extend the transition period and thats really what matters. If he does not want to extend the transition then he just has to not do it. He does not have to pass a new law. If he does want to pass a new law. If he does want to extend that he can still do that 110w to extend that he can still do that now by repealing this new law with his majority. I dont know if you agree with that, why is he doing it . Its really interesting, what dominic just its really interesting, what dominicjust said because i think a measure like this would have been a lot more relevant and helpful to him from the Prime Ministers point of view when he had a smaller majority or 110 view when he had a smaller majority or no majority at all. In this case, where there is such a large majority they are right to say what is to actually mean . If parliament is not going to do it what is the point of putting it in . The only way you can make some sense of it is perhaps if it no wayjust removes any sort of doubt in anybodys mind that that is the Prime Ministers intention. That he has no intention of agreeing to an extension and so perhaps its more of a political statement than anything else. But dont forget that his entire premiership really does depend on delivering this one promise which we heard over and over again during the campaign that he and his new parliamentarian members oii and his new parliamentarian members on his party are there to deliver brexit, and they dont want any more delays. This isjust the Prime Ministers way of saying quite clearly we are going to leave and theres not going to be a delay. Weve heard him say very decidedly in the past, we will leave on october 31, we did not end there wa nt to october 31, we did not end there want to be a portage on the ever see, now i know that he would maybe dispute the sort of checks there might be between mainland britain and Northern Ireland, but the fact remains that a lot of people think there will be checks, but in a sense why should we believe him this time. He can always pass another law if he needs to come he . And having an extension to the transition period . Ina sense, extension to the transition period . In a sense, because his get this big majority he could do what he likes. In comparison to the previous pledge to not extend article 50 its important to remember that he was forced to do that by the last parliament and thats not what the problem what he has any more. Instructed to think about this in a kind of technical sense because a deadline for extending the period is the 30th of june deadline for extending the period is the 30th ofjune 2020, and i expect that Boris Johnson the 30th ofjune 2020, and i expect that borisjohnson will kind of go straight through that deadline, it comes too soon in a way for him to break his word and its also, why will it be clear by then that an extension is needed . Will it be clear by then that an extension is needed . Forget to november and there still is not a deal there might be some legal fudge that might end up prolonging their transition but in terms of the legal group laid out in the Withdrawal Agreement i dont expect them to ta ke agreement i dont expect them to take it. Do you think that this promise both of your grade this is sort of symbolic, relate rather than anything else, but do you think that it will have any practical effect on businesses for example, will it help them to plan . Ive been speaking to some of my them to plan . Ive been speaking to some of my sources them to plan . Ive been speaking to some of my sources who are advising businesses and individuals on the sort of matters and have had to prepare for a time when we leave the io, prepare for a time when we leave the lo, and its been quite interesting to hear from them as well and a lot of them are saying well, it does make a difference. They sent out a press release earlier today saying there director thought this was a game changer. He felt he could actually now tell his clients that whatever happens we will out of the eu, so they should be planning accordingly. Now, there will be uncertainty still to an extent or maybe even quite an extent to sort out because the details will not offer our future relationship be very clear. But there will be uncertainty that will search and be out at the a lot of the lawyers are thinking that will help their businesses in no small way. The other thing which was interesting was that if you realise by about june time there will not be an extension then that still gives us a little bit more time to prepare and businesses a little bit more time to prepare for whatever is coming and even more bare bones deals preparations if you like. Instead of just taking it right to the wire and then at the last minute realise income you know what, we thought there was going to be an extension and now theres not going to be one. Another way of looking at that, but how far we actually do reach in our negotiation by the time june comes around we will just negotiation by the time june comes around we willjust have to wait and see. Ijust wonder, is Boris Johnson at risk of tying his hands . It may be that he has to reach a deal by, well, by the end of next year, and the eu might be able to force him to agree to things that he would not otherwise want. I think thats right in one sense. He does risk a situation where he has to make concessions to do a deal or leave with no deal and another of those outcomes are ideal, and at what point does no deal become better than a bad deal, that phrase coming back again. Its important to remember that extension of the transition period will not be risk free, the eu would come at a price in terms of what there was a demand, because we would still have full access for Single Market and Customs Union during an extension. Also seek an agreement on fish but the differences it would not be tied to any guaranteed the uk would get a final deal. There is risk that extending the period would also have problematic consequences in terms of the kind of leverage and negotiations. Thank you so much, thank you both very much indeed. SirJeffrey Donaldson has this evening been elected as the new dup westminster leader , after nigel dodds lost his seat in last weeks general election. Mr dodds defeat in north belfast, a seat he had held since 2001, was symbolic of a torrid election for the dup who saw their share of the vote drop significantly compared with the 2017 general joining me now from belfast, is ben lowry Deputy Editor of the belfast news letter. The news letter is one of Northern Irelands main daily newspapers, and its editorial stance and readership is unionist. I hope thats a fair summary of the paper and the readership. Thanks very much forjoining us. Yes, they are overwhelmingly unionist. Thank you very much for clarifying. We know with the New Westminster leader is, hes got quite a job in hand, hasnt he . The mood in the party must be pretty low. Yes, they put a brave face on it but pretty much everything that could go wrong for them has gone wrong. In position a few years ago and then they lost that very quickly got the conversation of holding the balance of power across the uk and that was a massive moment for them and very exciting, and then of course Boris Johnson quite quickly went back on his word, he was at the conference here i give her go and then after that theres the selection where we have lost they have lost their influence entirely in the most important mp. Nigel who was very well established and known to tory mps, respected by tory mps, very bright man, got a first in law from cambridge and now theres this reshuffle with Jeffrey Donaldson moving up having been chief webinar to from nigel. As you say, they wielded a lot of influence when there was a minority conservative government. They had a brexit deal back then that they would perhaps have been happier within the one on the table now. Where do they go from here . I think a return to stormont. They dont have anywhere else to go. Also saying about us being a unionist paper, stormont is better for unionist than nationalist. It is something that keeps Northern Ireland in the uk you could argue committee could also argue that sinn fein who, by the way had a bad election, their vote went markedly down, if you dont want Northern Ireland to exist and clearly the ultimate one a united ireland, theres an argument that does not matter to them but i think whats sinn fein also having a bad infected we re sinn fein also having a bad infected were selection, they went down 7 , the dup went down five, the two of them now are probably going to resume or want to resume quite quickly. Thats very dramatic and significant because there were quite serious and sober commentators who we re serious and sober commentators who were beginning to think that stormont would never come back, the divisions were too great and the atmosphere was too ugly. This election has been a big change, really between them only getting about half of the votes, they both had a big scare. It does seem to be a time for real soul for those parties that did badly last week. Are there recriminations going on in the party, are there people saying we got the strategy wrong . |j the party, are there people saying we got the strategy wrong . I think both of those parties dont really say what they think, so they put a brave face on it. If they are not having serious discussions about what went on they would need to be having it. Ithink, again, good to go back to the point about the units being more vulnerable, one of the big shifts in this is a move towards the alliance party. In the old days, the alliance party. In the old days, the party was founded i think in 1970, resolute on the union and a lwa ys 1970, resolute on the union and always nontribal and in the political centre, quite clear the uk was the place to be. I dont think im misrepresenting them to say the leadership and i would say things like their agnostic and keep an open mind, but that the group of people now approaching 20 of the electorate who will hold the balance of power, voters like that divided any portable or service that would lead to a border pole, is what we decide whether this part of the uk holds together. Thank you. As politicians gather for a summit to discuss how help the world s 25 million refugees, the bbc has been told of an increasing number of children self harming and attempting suicide, in the greek refugee camp on lesbos. Theres been a sharp increase in the number of refugees arriving there in recent months and almost 18,000 people are living in one camp which is designed for 2,000. Psychologists say theyre overwhelmed with the number of young people needing urgent help. Our Global Health correspondent Tulip Mazumdar has been to the camp just to warn you, you may find her report upsetting. This is no place for a child, and yet moria camp is home to more than 7,000 of them. The vast majority of these children have fled war torn countries and arrived here in europe a place supposedly of humanity, safety and security. Ok, lets go together. At the nearby childrens clinic, a Mental Health emergency is unfolding. A 17 year old boy slashed himself across his chest and arms overnight. His friend has brought him in. Butjust ask him if we can talk to him. This is a sadly common scene here. Hes not well. He does want to. He talks about wanting to. To do this again. More than 150 children have been referred to msf psychologists in the last two months alone. Thats double the number from the summer. Two of those children attempted suicide the youngest was just 13 years old. Normally a child, when they experience something traumatic, has to have the time and the space to recover. Moria does not allow the children to recover. In a child in the preschooler age, you can see children banging their head against a wall, for instance, pulling their hairs off, and in the age between 12 and 17, we see children start to cut themselves. Strongly start to talk about the desire of dying. Off, and in the age between 12 and 17, we see children start to cut themselves. Strongly start to talk about the desire of dying. A father in desperate search of help for his family, his daughter zaynab has autism and epilepsy. It took them two months to get here from afghanistan. They met us at a makeshift Community Centre at the camp. He described how they all almost died when they were flung into the sea as they crossed from turkey. Their bag with their money and zaynabs medication was lost. Translation the children were just screaming. They had so much fear. And the darkness, we always remember the darkness. Both children, he tells me, are utterly traumatised. Translation at night zaynab screams. She does not sleep, she hardly eats. We were refused permission to film inside the main, government run part of the camp. But the overspill into the neighbouring olive grove now holds around half of the almost 18,000 population of moria. Some families are getting stuck here for months awaiting news on their asylum claims. The greek government recently announced plans to move 20,000 people off this island and neighbouring island by early 2020, but movement on that has been extremely slow. And people, particularly women and children, keep arriving on these islands every week. Children are resilient. My name is mustafa here in a tented shack used as a Community Centre, staff are trying to help them remember simply how to be children. My name is nagis . But there is only so much these young minds can take. Tulip mazumdar, bbc news, moria camp, lesbos. Now it is a cultural phenomenon known around the world. For years now families have gathered together on the sofa, to watch them on the sofa. And today the simpsons celebrates its 30th birthday. Ever since the simsons first aired in 1989 it has been a ratings and money making powerhouse spawning video games, merchandise, and movie spin offs. Its even had an uncanny knack of predicting the future. As you know weve inherited quite a budget crunch after president trumka mahout that is it . We are broke. The country is broke . How can that be outcome appointee slammy, moving, oh, 20 . I wanted outcome appointee slammy, moving, oh, 20 . Iwanted a outcome appointee slammy, moving, oh, 20 . I wanted a peanut. Outcome appointee slammy, moving, oh, 20 . Iwanted a peanut. 20 outcome appointee slammy, moving, oh, 20 . I wanted a peanut. 20 can buy many peanuts. Explain how. Money can be exchanged for goods and services. Woo hoo take a memo to mike beat up martin. Ouch brilliant stuff welljoining me now from los angeles is the simpsons showrunner aljean. Well done on creating something that has lasted so marvelously for a generation, really. Whats the secret, why has it lasted so long . Generation, really. Whats the secret, why has it lasted so long . |j didnt create it, matt did, everyone here works so hard and it boggles a reminder that its been around 30 yea rs. Reminder that its been around 30 years. With President Trump seat production does not imply that we wa nted production does not imply that we wanted it. No one, no assume buying that. Its the simpsons is funny but its also a special mixture of comedy but also having heart, ijust wa nted comedy but also having heart, ijust wanted to play another clip showing really and getting to the essence of the simpsons, lets just have it listen to this. I need you to. Thats the problem with being low class, anybody who really cares will abandon you for those who need it more. I understand. Im going to miss you. Ill tell you what, whenever you feel like you are alone and theres nobody you can rely on, this is all you need to know. Thank you, mr bergstrom. Its very knowing from a very sentimental and knowing at the same time. There was publicity that we were sacrilegious and outrageous, but when people watch the show it has an incredible amount of heart an incredible sense of family trying to struggle and make ends meet in todays world. To construct make ends meet in todays world. To co nstru ct a make ends meet in todays world. To construct a beginning 30 years ago, that First Episode of the simpsons roasting on an open fire which you worked on promote what was it like back then . It was a small group and nobody knew we would be here 30 yea rs later nobody knew we would be here 30 years later on the show, but i a lwa ys years later on the show, but i always thought it would be something great because it was jimmy always thought it would be something great because it wasjimmy brooks and sam simon, and matt groening, and sam simon, and matt groening, andi and sam simon, and matt groening, and i was fans of them. Nothing animation like it on television at the time. Animation written by an intelligent staff, a sitcom staff that could really do something for grown ups as well as kids. That could really do something for grownups as well as kids. Thats pa rt grownups as well as kids. Thats part of the appeal, completely universal. Youve had so many guest stars, dustin hoffman, kelsey grammer, Paul Mccartney to name a few. Would you like to see doing the simpsons still . One person we would have liked to get was neil armstrong, never allowed to get him. And we also had tony blair which is amazing to us. Never had a president of the us and i dont think we are going to get one. Why not . The ones that we asked all said no. Perhaps you should keep asking and be pushy. We went to nixon and it was a lot of no. There were rumours of another film being in the offering. Its a possibility and we have worked on it a little. It would only be done if it was terrific and a great story, we are on disney plus which is going to be worldwide and we hope to do more seasons. We love doing the show and we feel as energised as we did in the first season. How do you develop it . We just take stories from life like our lives and the writers friends lives, the newspaper orjust any writers friends lives, the newspaper or just any story we writers friends lives, the newspaper orjust any story we can find. If its about a family and relatable to the modern world than we do it. And there has been some talk of has it run its course . But from what you say absolutely not. Youve got several more serious plans, is that right . Dont bet against us. Ok, we will have to leave it there. Lovely talking to you, many thanks. Now its time for a look at the weather with stav daneos. Expected to turn dryer across much of the country tonight is a ridge of High Pressure builds in from the west. The damp weather from the southeast will clear away and one or two showers started around the south coast and we lose most of the showers from scotland as well as this ridge builds income a short lived ranch as low pressure ta kes short lived ranch as low pressure takes over later on wednesday. Overnight let to see some mist and fog developing again and take a tumble may be minus three degrees, less cold though across the southwest and breezy by the end of the night. A cold start then and sunshine to, the way that breeze picks up his luck with that love that fog until the cloud and it will feel chilly as the breeze picks up. Further south and west attorney wetter and when dier enters temperature slowly rising as well. Wednesday night looks particularly windy for all but especially around irish seacoast, squeezing the isobars they are, likely to see gails here, a bit of snow over scotla nd gails here, a bit of snow over scotland for the hills of scotland but as the cold air moves north and with charge and see the milder ta keover with charge and see the milder takeover is likely to go back to rain. Mild on thursday and quite a breezy blustery day, those winds coming up from the south or southwest, the best of any sunshine across the north, plenty of showers further south some of them heavy and thunder read, the temperatures you will notice. We could see 13 degrees across the south of the country. States blustery for thursday night into friday, further pulses of rain heavy at times and particularly across southern and southeastern portions of england by friday, measuring revolt totals mounting up and issues with localised flooding as the ground is saturated for all of us. Some sunshine on friday and then double figure values in the south and for a single figure values across the north. We enter we can u nsettle across the north. We enter we can unsettle note across the north. We enter we can u nsettle note tha nks across the north. We enter we can unsettle note thanks to an area of low pressure and will bring rain and milder conditions to our shores. Into the weekend for sunshine and showers looks like it will turn a little bit fresher across Northern Areas as we move through the weekend. Hello, im ros atkins, this is outside source. In a letter that rails against his impeachment proceedings President Trump accuses democrats of declaring war on american democracy. Britains Prime Minister Boris Johnson says hell change the law to to prevent further extensions of the Brexit Process. Italian football clubs have joined the backlash against italys top football league, which has used images of monkeys in an anti Racism Campaign. Pope francis decides to remove secrecy rules allowing the Catholic Church to better report cases of abuse to civil authorities. And Scientists Say the idea artificial light from screens is keeping people awake at night is flawed