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That he would have. We have had nine years of Chaotic Coalition already. Two white house aides who listened in on the trump ukraine call that sparked impeachment inquiry have been testifying to congress. First, we are going to turn to washington, dc. The impeachment inquiry into donald trump continues. This is the live feed coming in as to more people give testimony. And also the former europe adviser, tim morrison, theyll be taking questions from the democrats and republicans as well. Earlier, a white house official testified that president Donald Trumps phone call with his ukrainian counterpart injuly was so inappropriate, he reported it without hesitation. Were into the third day of public hearings the focus of the inquiry is on whether donald trump withheld military aid to pressure ukraine to investigate his political rival joe biden. So, centre of attention today is Alexander Vindman hes a decorated military veteran who now works as a ukraine specialist on the Us National Security council. And he was listening to that phone call with the ukrainian president. Heres some of what hes said today. It was inappropriate and improper for the president to request, to demand, and investigation into a political opponent. Especially a foreign power where there is, at best, dubious belief that this would best, dubious belief that this would bea best, dubious belief that this would be a completely impartial investigation. And that this would have significant implications if it became Public Knowledge and was perceived as a partisan play to undermine our ukraine policy and undermine our ukraine policy and undermine our ukraine policy and undermine our National Security. In the last hour, the former special envoy to ukraine kurt volker has been speaking. Heres what hes had to say about the President Trumps view of ukraine. The president was very sceptical, given ukraines history of corruption, that is understandable. He said that ukraine was a corrupt country, full of terrible people and said that they tried to take me down. In the course of that conversation, he referenced conversations with mayor giuliani. It was clear that despite the positive news and recommendations being conveyed by this official delegation about the new president , President Trump had a deeply rooted negative view of ukraine rooted in the past. The next clip is Alexander Vindman again but it concerns the Us Ambassador to the European Union gordon sondland. This is mr vindman describing how the ambassador brought up investigating the bidens in a meeting with ukrainian officials. We fully anticipate the ukrainians would raise the issue of a meeting between the president s. The ambassador cut the meeting short when sondland started to speak about their requirement that ukraine delivered specific investigations to secure the meeting with President Trump. Following this meeting, there was a short debriefing during which the ambassador sondland emphasised the importance of delivering ukraine delivering the investigations to the 2016 elections, and biden. I stated to ambassador sondland that this was an meant nothing to do with National Security. And here is ambassador volkers view on that meeting. As i remember, the meeting was essentially over when ambassador sondland made a comment about investigations. I think all of us thought it was an appropriate, the conversation did not continue and the meeting concluded. Later on, i may have been engaged in a side conversation or had already left the complex because i do not recall further discussion regarding investigation. Third, i did not understand that others believe that any investigation of the ukrainian company, which had a history of accusations of corruption, was tantamount to investigating Vice President biden. I drew a sharp distinction between the two. It has long been us policy under multiple administrations to urge ukraine to investigate and fight internal corruption. I was quite comfortable with the ukraine making its own statement about its own policy of investigating and fighting corruption at home. Former National Security Council Former adviser tim morrison makes a statement. The two men competing to be the uks next Prime Minister have locked horns in the first head to head debate of the general eleciton campaign. Boris johnson and Jeremy Corbyn went live on the commercial broadcaster itvs debate, withjulie etchingham the moderator. Its been a lively one after the Opening Statements the Prime Minister soon engaged mr corbyn, over labours plan to renegotiate a brexit deal. I think what people need to understand is whether he believes in the deal that he is proposing to do. Does he actually want to do this deal . Because if he doesnt believe in it . Or if, absurdly, he was then going to campaign against it in the forthcoming. Perhaps you would like to put the question directly to mr corbyn . What does the point of offering him, and i wonder if mr corbyn can now tell us, are you going to campaign for leave or remain . I want to bring people together, therefore there will be a referendum in which that decision will be made by the british people and will abide by the decision. When you say you will get it done, really, mrjohnson, youre probably going to embark on seven years of negotiations with the United States on a trade deal. You have already indicated that you will let our National Health service to be put at risk by a trade deal with the United States. You have already indicated that you will do a canada style of agreement which took at least seven years to negotiate. So, youre not going to get it done in a few months and you know that perfectly well. They also clashed over whether mrjohnson had changed his position on putting a border down the irish sea. Heres mr corbyn again. The problem with what mrjohnson just said is that he said exactly the opposite we spoke to a dup conference. He said they would be no border down the i received. He said they would be no border down the irish sea. Well, there is. On the contrary, the whole of the uk comes out entire imperfect as i have said, will do free trade deals together, we take back control together. This was far from the damp squib some commentators predicted the two leaders instead actively took one anothe on. And the audience were active participants too Jeremy Corbyn had this reaction, to his brexit policy. I have made the position clear. We will have a referendum, we will have a negotiation and we will abide by that result its the british people who will make the decision. Jeremy corbyn wasnt alone in getting laughed at. The audience did the same when borisjohnson was talking about truth in politics. Mrjohnson, this is about personal integrity and individual character. Does the truth matter in this election . I think it does. And i think its very important. I have been very clear. Our Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg was watching closely. She said this on twitter well the pollster yougov has already conducted a snap poll. It asked people its virtually split right down the middle. Borisjohnson 51 Jeremy Corbyn 49 . Watch it all is well, what did you make of it . What did you put out of the most significant elements . 52, 48. It was within the margin of error and i think that is possibly correct because both of them played to the strengths. Borisjohnson putting Jeremy Corbyn on the back foot especially with the question of a labour referendum to the leader of the labour party saying whether or not he would leave or remain in their referendum and he is asked the question and counted ten times, and these have a dozen times in time and again, Jeremy Corbyn had to say, we will let the people decide and eventually he was laughed at that response. But it was very sure footed some other areas and for example, he was asked again on the nhs about the potential of privatisation or the eu trade deal, what would happen if america wanted to put their companies into the nhs and he is playing off of some peoples fears of what would happen to the health service. He also disarmed to some extent, Boris Johnsons attack that he would perform some coalition with the snp not just to deliver a perform some coalition with the snp notjust to deliver a referendum for scottish independence, he said that the coalition of chaos ignored the fa ct the coalition of chaos ignored the fact that it was chaos over the past nine years when theyve been out of power. So they played to their strengths and i might surprised i am not surprised by the results of that poll. The royalfamily am not surprised by the results of that poll. The royal family i think we can already give that response now. We are going to hear that clip on the royal family but before that, the National Health service, this came up again and again. Jeremy corbyn was accused of planning to open up the service to companies. This is the exchange. But we know about the government proposals, what we know about what mrjohnson has doneis we know about what mrjohnson has done is a series of secret meetings of the United States in which they are proposing to open up our nhs market to american companies. Their request was made in order to find out what happened at these meetings. And that is what happened at these meetings. Every single line of this document redacted out. A document here, a document here of us, uk negotiations. Summary of specific negotiations. Summary of specific negotiations. Full Market Access for us products to our National Health service. You are going to sell out out service. You are going to sell out our National Health service to United States this is an absolute invention. It is completely untrue. There are no circumstances in which this government or any conservative government will put the nhs on the table in any trade negotiation. Our nhs will never be up for negotiation. Jeremy corbyn is trying to conceal the void at the heart of his brexit policy and refusing to a nswer his brexit policy and refusing to answer the question of which side he would take. The conservatives continued the argument on twitter, posting this on their official account but that tweet and many other have caused controversey. Thats because the conservatives changed their twitter handle to factcheck uk for the duration of the debate. Heres a screenshot. Now that has angered the uks actual independent Fact Checking agency full fact. They tweeted quite a move for the conservatives who have already gotten in trouble during the selection for pulling out putting out things that were not true. You will make it was a boldm was interesting that borisjohnson wa nted was interesting that borisjohnson wanted to move off of that territory because perhaps a lack of trust at the moment in politics is because parliament would not deliver brexit, it wanted to move back to territory that they felt very comfortable but rebranding a part of a political point of view is the Fact Checking service. I think is pretty audacious, bad firing in the allegations of fake news what is also interesting about the decide to follow some of the other controversial moves during the course of this campaign. For example, the doctor to take on looking as though the brexit secretary was stumbling over a question when in fact, he wasnt in again this accusation of them spending £i. 2 trillion effectively costing a labour manifesto that has not even been released yet at least until thursday. So people trying to find out what is going on to some extent, i would say please try to trust the broadcasters a bit more and also the bbc reality check where not simply rebranded by the politicians indirectly trying to go through the promises and finding out what lies behind them. I think were going to see an awful lot of trading in statistics around the selection and to some extent notjust to throw light on anything, butjust get the idea across the you cannot quite trust the other side and what theyre saying and standing back from this, i do not think it was particularly surprising and a polish number half of the audience thought one half the other had one because so far, this Collection Company does not really properly ignite things. Theyre having a few sparks between the party but has not really got off the party but has not really got off the ground and when that is the case, accusations and counter accusations, each party should say, desperately trying to find that breakthrough. So far currently, conservatives are in front so what labour needs to do to try to break through, i do not think they quite managed to do that, by were going to be single for the next few is this attempt to say to each other that they cant quite be trusted and revert to their own territory, brexit for the conservatives in Public Services for labour in the hour long debate tonight will be summed up with the attitudes of both companies of the campaign. A huge amount of information on the Election Campaign by the bbc news website. Will update you on what is well look at the situation in iran the rights group, Amnesty International says its confirmed a death toll of more than 100 during five days of protests a leaked report on failings at the shrewsbury and telford nhs trust has said a toxic culture, linked to the deaths of at least 42 babies over four decades, has still not been properly addressed. An investigation that initially began looking at 23 cases in 2017 is now looking at more than 270, from 1979 to present day. Its interim findings include unexplained deaths, sub standard care that left babies brain damaged and disabled, and parents who were left in the dark. The trust has apologised. The independents health correspodent Shaun Lintern who has seen the leaked report told us about some of the distressing detail included in its findings. What weve been given is a report that sets out a series of failures stretching back as far as 1979 to the present day, and the author of that report, donna ockenden, who is leading an independent investigation into the shrewsbury and Telford Hospital trust, has made clear that whats been going on is a repeated failure by that trust to learn from mistakes as far back as the 1970s. And what that meant was that families who kept coming to the hospital over that 40 year period have suffered, unfortunately, again and again. I mean, ive been a Health Journalist now for more than ten years and ive written about lots of scandals. I have to say, reading this report today and going through the detail, it was, to be honest, quite upsetting. There are examples of babies bodies decomposing and mothers not being able to see them before they were being buried. It really is a stark, stark report. And it underlines, for me, i think, the poor culture in this trust and, also, the wider safety questions that the nhs has got to answer. We cant keep dismissing these scandals as one offs. And the independent is launching a Campaign Today to improve safety, not just in maternity, but across the nhs. This is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. Our lead story is . The first tv debate of the uk general Election Campaign has seen borisjohnson and Jeremy Corbyn go head to head. They faced questions on brexit, the nhs, and trust and integrity. The other stories. Prosecutors in sweden say they are dropping thei rape investigation into wikileaks founder julian assange. Hes always denied the allegations. Mr assange took refugfe in the Ecuadorean Embassy in london from 2012 til earlier this year. Hes now serving a 50 week sentence for breaching his bail conditions. Hes also facing an extradition request from the us in connection to his work with wikileaks. Thereve been protests in kabul after three taliban commanders were freed by the Afghan Government in exchange for an american and australian whove been held captive since 2016. Afghan Officials Say the deal is aimed at restarting talks with the taliban. Bbc pashto. Health warnings have been issued in sydney because of the amount of smoke in the area from nearby bush fires. Bbc. Com more than 100 people are believed to have been killed in the past five days during protest in iran thats according to amnesty intenational who have been monitoring the unrest. The bbc has obtained this footage. This appears to show Security Forces firing directly on protestors. This is from monday. It shows two members of the Security Forces shooting from behind a wall, and the second one from behind a tree. That footage was shot in the city of kermanshah in the west of the country but the bbc has seen similar videos of officers shooting at people in other cities too. The United Nations has expressed its concern. We do not know the extent of the killings and injuries but it is clearly very serious and taking place in many parts of the country and that means more than, many of these cases it would suggested that it is not simply the trigger to the protest, which is a rise in fuel prices, but something much deeper seated. Getting Accurate Information out of iran is difficult because the authorities hvae shut down the internet. This is from netblocks who monitor internet shutdowns. And they shared this image. Rana rahimpour from bbc persian told me more about the difficulties of getting information out of iran. It is extremely difficult. The country has been under blackout for nearly four days now. It feels like it is no longer iran breeds to be able to whatsapp with people and get on the phone to be able to. Weve had many messages in today, zero. And i think it is also blocking any phone calls out of iran, so it is usually difficult so that aside why we have to rely on state media. And the way we are trying to make a picture of what is going on is to see which schools and cities is shut down and football matches have been cancelled in different cities and based on these cancellations, we are trying to build a picture of how widespread these protests are. But to getan widespread these protests are. But to get an accurate picture is almost impossible. Is there an element of coordination . They look spontaneous because they cant have any means of communicating and organising themselves and we spoke and we managed to speak with a couple of people south of iran and they said they do not even know what is going on in their neighbourhood because they are all cut off from each other because of the internet. I think the iranian authorities decision to com pletely iranian authorities decision to completely cut it off has worked, at least in terms of reporting it. Presumably, we cannot just look least in terms of reporting it. Presumably, we cannotjust look at this through the prism of petrol prices, it is way more fundamental than that. The price is distributed because the anger is been there for decades but over the last two years, because of us sanctions, people have been under a lot of pressure and this was the final bullet. People we re this was the final bullet. People were screaming saying that they are hungry, they cannot feed their children, they do not have anything to lose in many of them are young. There between 17 and 25 and they do not see anything and they are frustrated because they are isolated. What form do we think the protests are taking . They have turned violent because the authorities are also using violence. So at least six people have been killed, but we believe based on the videos that the number is probably much higher and as the other side is using violence, the protesters are going to use more violence as well. What is the government saying was made there there are thugs that are supported by the west and being funded by the enemies of the system. The usual stuff when there is a demonstration in the countries. Also the situation in hong kong were about 100 students are surrounded by police and the standoff continues. In the us, we have had four new testimonies as part of the impeachment inquiry and that is still going on and Jeremy Corbyn and borisjohnson went still going on and Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson went head to head still going on and Jeremy Corbyn and borisjohnson went head to head on itv in the last couple of hours and you can get full analysis of what happened online from bbc news. See you tomorrow. Hello. To stay dawned and my distain parts of aberdeen share in the statistics for november has been particularly cold month for received blue colours, temperatures have been below average for the time of year and across northern scotland substantially drier with colours of rainfall the chart and also showing where the whites and blues are substantially above. Particularly to the east midlands and they have seen almost double their entire months worth of rain, almost 60 of this value here notice it is way below that. Barely a fifth of what we normally expect for the entire month. The rainfall to take us into wednesday will be mainly limited to western french is an eastern parts will be isolated to the north sea coast, potentially one or two just drifting through western scotland later but it is Northern Ireland and cornwall where he could see some rain at times the stuff quite a breezy day and certainly more breeds where the sun is called, and above freezing, most around six to 8 degrees. Going into thursday, more of you are frost free, the rain towards the south and west were temperatures around thursday morning and then it will be a blustery day but there also be some heavier bursts of rain across wales and into Northern Ireland. The vast majority having another dry day and a fair amount of cloud and some sunny spells and temperatures around where there should be for the time of year. Continuing that vein into friday, drifting a bit towards us and that will push some shower he ran northwards as a go to thursday night and friday, actually start and across parts of england and was in particular, early rain in parts of northern scotland gradually fizzling in the main bulk of rain which will come and go again mainly towards the west. Temperatures a bit more widely into nine or ten as we head to friday afternoon. 20 years ago, you know that this area of low pressure isa know that this area of low pressure is a bit of uncertainty. It looks ago drift its way southwards with heavy rain to the west and this northern weather front around it will start to push its way northwards and compared to the train for hours, greater chance of rain developing across parts of england and wales. Nothing too substantial at the stage but an easterly breeze with that so further north as we get away from that area of low pressure, scotland, Northern England and Northern Ireland, just be warned that rankin just about had northwards and keep a very close eye on it. As a go to the end of the weekend, that rain district northwards as he fizzles and goes and then into sunday, it looks like southern areas will brighten up once again. Back to south easterly winds and not too substantial breeze away from the scotland we will see more of wet weather, the driver of wet weather, the drier theme will continue and all of this dry weather will help to let those river levels drop in the rank and hidden this, not because of this too much concern but low pressure side to dominate during the first half of us so dragging into the mildest wind, stop and southwest of does mean well see some rain at times. Temperatures a bit higher than was on the first half of this week but close to normal. Later in the week, the low pressure pushes its way through it site temperatures will drop it again. This programme contains flashing images. Tonight at ten brexit, honesty, and the nhs, the dominating themes in tonights Election Debate betweenjohnson and corbyn. Jeremy corbyn arrived in salford, greeting supporters outside, promising to invest much more money in the nhs. While borisjohnsons cavalcade swept in, with the Prime Minister keen to turn many of his responses to brexit. Full Market Access for us products to our National Health service. Youre going to sell our National Health service to the United States and big pharma. Mr corbyn is trying to conceal the void at the heart of his brexit policy and refusing to answer the question of which side, which side he would take. The two