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And Jeremy Corbyn is described as no meeting of minds. Also on the programme. British police have discovered the bodies of 39 people in a lorry container that arrived in the uk from europe. The 25 year old driver has been arrested. And the shining example from denmark of what to do, if you are precariously positioned on the cliff edge. Hello, and welcome. Im Michelle Fleury in washington, and Christian Fraser is in london. The democrats impeachment inquiry took a significant leap forward on tuesday following testimony from the top us diplomat to ukraine. Damning and devastating just some of the words being used to describe William Taylors account of the trump administrations efforts to pressure ukraine to investigate the president s political rivals. Behind closed doors, ambassador taylor, who remember is still a serving diplomat, gave nine hours of testimony. His Opening Statement stretched to 15 pages. The ambassador said. Referrring to an anticipated meeting between the ukranian president and donald trump at the white house. He said donald trump wanted president zelenskyy in a public that is, the investigation intojoe bidens son. Onjuly 18, he went on. Just before coming on air we were joined from capitol hill by democratic congresswomanjackie speier who sits on the House Intelligence Committee and was at yesterdays hearing. Thank you so much forjoining us. You were in the room when bill taylor was giving his testimony. What was it like . What was significant about it . Well, the testimony was unimpeachable, in terms of the fact that he had detailed notes. He was very explicit about what was being said, and the quid pro quo or this for that was very apparent. So the problem how was very apparent. So the problem now is that the republicans cannot beat us on the facts, so they want to try to shutdown beat us on the facts, so they want to try to shut down the process altogether. Weve heard reports of a room being stormed today by republicans trying to interrupt a deposition. Youve got stephanie gresham, the White House Press secretary, coming out and saying there was no quid pro quo. How does that fit in with what you are gathering in terms of testimony . That fit in with what you are gathering in terms of testimony7m is very clear that mr taylor, the ambassador who was appointed by a republican, george w. Bush, and was reappointed by mike pompeo, said very clearly that in fact, money for ukraine was being withheld because the president wanted a public indication by the ukrainian president that he would investigate joe biden and his son, and the 26 election. That is abuse of power, thatis election. That is abuse of power, that is an effort to try and get a foreign country to have an influence on an impact our domestic elections, which is also a crime of the federal elections commission. So the president is creating crimes on a daily basis now. Congresswoman, where does this go . What happens now . Because the evidence as youve laid out may be indisputable, but i dont see big cracks appearing within the republican party. Dont see big cracks appearing within the republican partyli dont see big cracks appearing within the republican party. I think that once ambassador taylor testifies in public, and i think he will within short order, once we have the testimony of the National Security council, i think the case will be Crystal Clear to the American People. And once it is Crystal Clear to them, i think some of those cracks that you are suggesting will be in full evidence. It strikes me that on this side of the pond, again, we have a decision from the white house that in many ways undermines an alliance. The eu ta kes a ways undermines an alliance. The eu takes a big strategic interest in the ukraine and what is happening in the ukraine and what is happening in the east of the country. They were putting money into nonmilitary elements with the ukraine. The us was putting military funding in. But now that we learned there was another channel that was undermining the strategy of the alliance. You must be worried about that and how that looks to your allies . Well, i think all of us are worried about it who are in government, and the American People frankly have so many other issues they are dealing with, they cannot focus on the fact that you have someone they cannot focus on the fact that you have someone who is not elected, not appointed by the president , not confirmed by the senate, who was running a rogue National Security or Foreign Policy house, and is doing so Foreign Policy house, and is doing so in plain sight and under the auspices of the president of the United States. Theres never been any proof that joe biden did anything wrong in the ukraine. But we talked earlier about maybe as a result of this inquiry, people might start to focus on hunter biden and his business credentials, whether that was bolstered by his fathers position in the white house, and maybejoe biden would be sucked in this and start to impact his run the white house. Not according to todays polls. Have a look at this. All the usual caveats apply, this is for cnn. Look at that, bidens lead among democrats and democrat registered voters is now at its widest since april, a 34 against 19,16 widest since april, a 34 against 19, 16 for Senators Elizabeth Warren and bernie sanders. That must be a huge boost for his campaign. There had been all these predictions about what impact this might have. But that being said, it is early days, and you could see the site where in fa ct, and you could see the site where in fact, the bidens bothjoe biden and his son, hunter and up if this goes to a senate trial, you are forced to give testimony. How this works is that if the democrats who control the house decide to vote for articles of impeachment, it would move to the senate where the republicans have the majority. What you get there is a kind of trial in which republicans essentially would be in control. So you have the democrats who would be hitting trump over that ukraine call, but you could have republicans essentially hitting democrats with the bidens. So the timing is crucial . You dont wa nt so the timing is crucial . You dont want this to run into the primaries injanuary and want this to run into the primaries in january and february were want this to run into the primaries injanuary and february werejoe biden is hitting the campaign trail . Thats been the problem all along, theyve been trying to get this done by the end of the year or perhaps slipping it into earlyjanuary. By the end of the year or perhaps slipping it into early january. But can they get it done in time . Thats the question. A short time ago, donald trump announced that he will be lifting sanctions imposed on turkey after he received assurances that a ceasefire in Northern Syria would be made permanent. But he also declared a change in course for americas role in the middle east where he said too Many American troops had died. Mr trump said the path he had chosen would lead to victory for america despite the widespread criticism he has received for withdrawing troops. He said the deal he had made was the one only he could make. This was an outcome created by us, the United States, and nobody else. No other nation its very simple. And were willing to take blame, and were also willing to take credit. This is something weve been trying to do for many, many decades. Supposed to be a very quick hit, and lets get out. And it was a quick hit, except they stayed for almost ten years. Let someone else fight over this long, bloodstained sand. Lets bring in our north america correspondent, nick bryant. I want to go back a little bit there to the sanctions that have been lifted. This is in response to astonishingly, a deal being brokered between the russians and turkey to cover Northern Syria. Theres lots of incoherence in this policy. Donald trump has imposed sanctions for something turkey did with his sanction. He allowed them to go into a Northern Syria, he gave them the green light in that famous phone call with president erewhon. Now when he got criticism notjust from the democrats but from senior republicans, they slapped sanctions on turkey. What we saw the white house today was extraordinary. It was the president of the United States trying to spend what has been widely condemned as, within his own party, a Great American betrayal of americas kurdish allies who fought alongside them against the so called Islamic State. Trying to turn that betrayal into a story of american success, a story of personal success he success, a story of personal success he claimed at one point the people we re he claimed at one point the people were coming up to him and slapping him on his back, but that hasnt been happening. Hes not been lavished with praise over this, but absolutely deluged with criticism, not least from people like mitch mcconnell, the Republican Senate majority leader. He said it was a great outcome, but. Turkey has gotten what it wanted, the safe zone in Northern Syria, and also russia, who can obviously consolidate more of its power in syria. And of course what we saw yesterday was the turkish president and Vladimir Putin in sochi with a shared agenda about how to work out the endgame of a series of eight year war. Who wont have a say in the in game . The United States. Boris johnson said today that he had spoken to him twice and also spoken to donald trump. But on this side listening to donald trump, they re trump. But on this side listening to donald trump, theyre scratching their head. Wejust had donald trump, theyre scratching their head. We just had the congresswoman on earlier who said that allies dont know which way this white house will go on a number of issues. What weve seen over the past of issues. What weve seen over the pa st two of issues. What weve seen over the past two weeks, ever since that green light was given to turkey, was a rare act of bipartisanship. We have seen two thirds of the house republicans, who are most normally loyal to the drug white house, give their names to a resolution which would condemn donald trump for allowing this resolution to happen. Mitch mcconnell has been introducing a similar resolution on the floor of the senate, which again has widespread support within the republican party. And the critics of donald trump here and see this obviously is a big boost to Vladimir Putin and president aaron again. But also a boost to the so called Islamic State, the American Defence secretary admitting that more than 100 Islamic State fighters have managed to escape during this in a military incursion. Its been a huge mess, according to moser publicans here in washington. But what i would say is that donald trump said yesterday, he was in a rally last week and his big as a pauline applause line came when he said he was withdrawing us forces from the middle east. Republicans hear it viewed as a huge loss of american influence, but his supporters say it is another promise that trump has made good. Thank you for helping us understand Donald Trumps approach to the middle east. Eu leaders are now considering the two letters borisjohnson sent to them on saturday one a legally mandated request for a delay to brexit, the other a personal letter in which the Prime Minister says he doesnt actually want a delay. Despite the second letter that is signed, the other is not, it still looks likely the eu will grant the extension. Earlier today, donald tusk tweeted that hed be recommending the eu27 to accept the uks request for a three month delay. But as president of the Council Mr Tusk of course has to consult every one of the 27 heads of government at least once. And remember, each of them holds a veto. Despite mr tusk seeming to imply the january extension would be granted, diplomats say no final decision will be taken at tonights ambassadors meeting in brussels. Newsnights Political Editor nick watt reports that borisjohnson told mps in the commons tea room that he had asked Emmanuel Macron to block the brexit extension request. A little earlier we spoke to mireille clapot, a french mp who sits on the National Assemblys Foreign Affairs committee. I asked her what sort of extension the french would prefer the eu to grant, if at all. The extension is not a purpose in itself. The extension is just an intermediate way to make sure that the Withdrawal Agreement bill, as it was renegotiated by Boris Johnson with michel barnier, is a good deal that is convenient to the british people. And what we wanted we wanted to have a decision. We didnt want to go further into discussions, into amendments. So we think that if there were some more days to discuss it finally, there will be a clear answer a yes or a no. And of course, youre right, we want to reach an agreement, everybody wants to reach an agreement one must say ok, and the second must say ok. I think that we are close to a good end. Last time, president macron threatened to veto an extension. In the end, he didnt. We have him seemingly talking tough again about this idea of an extension. Do you think ultimately he will potentially be happy to go with a longer extension . I think that what we have in mind in france, as far as i understood from what he said he is a team in the government sense. We think that more than three years ago, some decisions were made. And the closer you go to the final deadline, the more of an emergency you feel. And sometimes, emergency is a good thing to make decisions. And the longer extension would have provided new ideas. The more time you have when you are a member of parliament i myself am a member of parliament the more you want to put your mark on the text, the more you want to give your ideas on this comma here, this line here. So i think that now, everybody is tired and we have to focus on something else. we we have we have to put our energy into something else. And if there is a short extension, it would be the better for everybody. You seem to be persuaded by the argument that a tighter deadline would focus minds in the Uk Parliament . Yes, that is what i think. I think that we have to focus minds on something else. And now the people have to spend their time to go quickly through the text and check whether it is compliant with the spirit of it. And then there will be some lows on the british side to apply it to, to transpose it onto your laws. But the more time you give it, the more ideas you can suggest. Very good to talk to you, thank you for being with us this evening. 39 people have been found dead in the trailer of a lorry, in the town of greys about 30 kilometres outside of london. Its not known who they are or where they came from, one was a teenager. The lorry driver whos 25 and from Northern Ireland, has been arrested on suspicion of murder. Our special correspondent ed thomas reports from the scene. Just before 1 40am, paramedics called police. The doors of the lorry container had been opened. Inside, 39 bodies. 39 lives, people with hopes and ambitions. The youngest was a teenager. Its tragic, absolutely terrible. Such a shame. They were obviously trying to get over here for a better life. Its heartbreaking for me. Feel very sorry for them. Its horrible. It is quite difficult to believe that that is happening quite close to the place where youre working every day for many years. We have obtained this cctv from 1. 13am this morning, close to where it was found. The lorry passes at speed. The final moments before its journey ended. When paramedics were called, all 39 people inside were pronounced dead. Today, search for clues and answers had begun. This is as close as the police will allow us to the lorry. All morning, forensic teams have been coming and going from that tent. We still dont know who put these people on the lorry. We dont know exactly how they died. All we know is that the lorry was found here in the early hours of this morning. We know the track was registered in bulgaria. Police say the trailer travelled from zeebrugge in belgium into purfleet on the river thames, and arriving just after midnight. The driver of the lorry has been named locally in Northern Ireland a 25 year old mo robinson. He is being questioned on suspicion of murder. This matter has attracted national and International Interest and it is imperative that the operation is conducted with the utmost respect for the 39 people who have lost their lives. Grays is at the centre of a huge haulage network. Lorries are stopping overnight with people coming out of them. Some here are shocked but not surprised. This cabbie says he and his colleagues are often approached by desperate people. They come up, they cant speak english. They hand you a phone, you speak to someone on the other end, and they ask you to take them to an address. It is normally by london. Tonight, the lorry and the people on board have been taken away. Police said their dignity and finding their loved ones comes first. Ed thomas, bbc news, grays. We can talk to andrew wallis, the founder of the anti slavery charity unseen. Andrew, good of you to be with us. How common is this . Ive read tonight that can police have found nine people in the back of a lorry that was carrying nine more people on the m20. How common is that . That was carrying nine more people on the m20. How common is that7m isa on the m20. How common is that7m is a regular occurrence. When we get the tragedy at the scale of this size, there is the appropriate media response and interest in it. But as it said in that package, regularly people see people jumping off the back of lorries and dispersing into the side streets or flagging down someone the side streets or flagging down someone to get them somewhere else. It is more common that we realise popular i think as reporters, we will easily interchange the words of traffic and smuggle. But there is a difference . Traffic and smuggle. But there is a difference . There traffic and smuggle. But there is a difference . There is, smuggling is a crime against a state where you pay someone crime against a state where you pay someone to get you across an International Border illegally. Traffic is where you promised someone traffic is where you promised someone something, trap them, and then move them somewhere else. They are interlinked issues and if you pay a smuggler, you become very vulnerable in that situation which can lead to exploitation. But they are distinct crimes. With your charity, youve worked with people who have successfully made it into the country. Talk to us about what drives people to this and what their lives look like when they get here . The first thing we must say is just look at the desperation to put yourself in such a vulnerable situation, to be locked in this container. That isjust highly risky to start with. But what we see in terms of victims identified in the uk terms of victims identified in the uk often itsjust huge levels of violence meted out against the individuals as a means of control and to stop them from fleeing that situation. But we have to look at with this case is this is desperation. People have reached their desperation point, whether it is to pay a smuggler or to take a risk when they know there is a risk they will be exploited and not able to leave that situation. But they feel the situation they are fleeing from or leaving is so bad that this is the only option theyve got. And thatis is the only option theyve got. And that is the tragedy of the situation, where people are driven to such a place. Obviously it is too soon, we dont yet know who these people were or why they were trying to enter the uk. But it does take us back to this idea of what can be done to stop that sense of desperation. Is it a path to legalization, is that the solution . 0rare legalization, is that the solution . Or are there other things we should be looking at . I think we need to look at what is the route to legal migration, and what is the route to asylum. Because we have a world that is in asylum. Because we have a world that isina asylum. Because we have a world that is in a growing state of conflict, so is in a growing state of conflict, so people are fleeing conflict situations, people fleeing persecution. With Climate Change, people leave because it is not safe for them or there are no Economic Opportunities for where they live. The world is on the move so we need to find ways people can move safely, and ways that if people need to find sanctuary and other countries, it is safe for them to do that. Quickly, this is an unorthodox route. Why would they go that way . Again, we are just supposing at this point, but it is probably to avoid detection. Yes, there is illegal immigration coming through there, but there is an awful lot of focus on that area, so it is very easy to say lets switch to some other port because there is less focus. We must rememberthe because there is less focus. We must remember the scale of movement into this country. It is massive. So unless we examine every car and vehicle coming in, the traffickers and smugglers will look for the point of weakness and they willjust move point of weakness and they willjust move their human commodity around in order to get them to the uk. Im being told they came through belgium. I also noticed that i didnt name your charity, which is unseen, which has been going for ten yea rs. Unseen, which has been going for ten years. Thank you so much for coming on. This is beyond 100 days from the bbc. Coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news the Festive Season is around the corner, and the uk could be bracing for its first christmas general election since 1923. We speak to two candidates about the prospect of a winter campaign. And facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg faces a grilling in congress over the tech firms new cryptocurrency libra. Thats still to come. Good evening. Weve seen plenty of wet weather across the uk already this month. Heres another dollop of heavy rain to come for england and wales in the next few days. By the time we are done, we anticipate we will have above average 0ctober rain for next week. Shifting from wet and windy ill tumble by more settled conditions, but it will start to feel chillier. Currently we are at the mercy of an area of low pressure, with one front to the southeast, and other digging down from the northwest. Then a band of showers waiting to move after. These two fronts intend to merge together in the next 12 hours or so, bringing rain into england and wales. But actually, past year reign across the west of england and wales, and it is as those fronts trickle or break further eastwards through the thursday daytime, we will see another reinvigoration and perhaps some pulses of heavier rain, especially for the second half of the day across central and eastern areas of england. Brighter skies following, some squally showers rolling through during the day. In terms of temperatures, around 1114dc. But terms of temperatures, around 11 1lidc. But colder air starting to dig down into the north of scotland and around that low pressure system later thursday and friday. Still pretty mild to the south. Continental air between the two weather fronts, sticking across through friday. Not deviating for 36 hours, so the rain will keep on coming and it could potentially cause problems. Quite windy towards the southwest, still some strong winds across scotland. Drier weather here, showers in the north west. Could see some snow for the pen nines as ourfront could see some snow for the pen nines as our front pumped its way northwards. Weaving its way across wales and parts of Northern England, well on it to saturday, 100 mm of rain, up to four inches possible for some spots before it starts to pull its way southwards stop so the risk of disruption friday and saturday for parts of wales in the northwest of england. Transport could be affected. A much quieter story at the front pulls off to the continent for sunday. This is beyond one hundred days. With me Michelle Fleury in washington, Christian Fraser is in london. Our top stories. A top us diplomat says President Trump made the release of military aid to ukraine conditional on a pledge that a political rival would be investigated. A meeting between borisjohnson and Jeremy Corbyn concludes without an agreement. Meanwhile, our brussels reporter says therell be no special brexit extension summit for the eu27. Coming up in the next half hour. Facebook boss Mark Zuckerberg concedes he might have to rethink his cryptocurrency project if the currency doesnt get the backing of us regulators. Plus, why saving the world from Climate Change starts at breakfast, according to one bestselling author. Hello and welcome, im Michelle Fleury in washington and Christian Fraser is in london. Whatever the length of delay to brexit is granted by the eu, at some point soon mps will almost certainly have to call for a uk general election. The Ruling Conservative Party have lost their majority in the commons and following borisjohnsons controversial new deal with the eu they can no longer count on the dup. By almost 2 to 1 the public want an early general election, but asked when theyd prefer it to fall theyre split. If an early election was inevitable, 38 say theyd prefer to get the poll done before the end of 2019 and try to resolve brexit afterwards with a fresh parliament. But 40 would prefer to resolve brexit first, and wait until the spring before a general election once its been resolved. Joining us now are two candidates hoping to win seats for the first time in that election Faiza Shaheen whos standing for labour in chingford and wood green, and ruth edwards whos the conservative candidate for rushcliffe. Let me start to review first of all and asking the question that they are asking a number ten. Is it better to call the election now with brexit unresolved or is it better to pass the Withdrawal Agreement there and get brexit in the rear view mirror . I very much hoped that we would be able to pass the withdrawal down as he know the house voted in favour of the bell last night but against the timeframe so i very much hope he would be able to have the bill passed before the 31st of 0ctober. Bill passed before the 31st of october. I think it would be prefera ble october. I think it would be preferable to do that if of course we can get that to the house. We had seen a lot of delay from labour and Jeremy Corbyn doing his best to block that there and brought an election so we need to get a way forward. The labour Party Divided on their brexit policy, would you prefer their brexit policy, would you p refer to their brexit policy, would you prefer to focus on things that play strongly for labour, austerity, the health service, the sort of things . Of course, those are the things that come up most on the doorstep whether it be the local hospital, local schools, and those are the things we inevitably end up talking about the the things that matter to people. On brexit, the deal that has been brought forward from Boris Johnson which is trying very hard to push through now, very quickly is not one that the majority of labour mps can support and most of us in the labour party cannot support because it does not do the things that we as the labour party i set out to do. We we re labour party i set out to do. We were appointed and that was to protect workers rights to make sure we protectjobs in this country protect workers rights to make sure we protect jobs in this country and there really are a lot of questions around this deal and its interesting that its been framed as theirand we interesting that its been framed as their and we waited for and to come back and to mays deal was voted down three times and we get Boris Johnsons delaet of a nightly accident at this deal and agree on it and actually we heard people in the cabinet themselves get confused about what will happen and what the sta ble about what will happen and what the stable ascent of rest of the cabinet themselves and Boris Johnson stable ascent of rest of the cabinet themselves and borisjohnson himself needs to get more used to what this deal is about and understand it better and thats not too much to ask but yes of course, labour has an ambitious programme, not just ask but yes of course, labour has an ambitious programme, notjust on public services, but on climate which is the issue of the day and as we go into another that we cant have another decade like you one we just had with austerity, ignoring the Biggest Challenges of our time on climate on an ageing population and it would be great to start that new decade with a new government and with new policies. You are concerned about work rights and environmental issues, some of the things that are in this Withdrawal Agreement there, does that mean you would like an election before brexit is done to try and set up had a bigger say and ultimately what brexit looks like . There are really two options here. This is not a beer i wanted to go through, i dont think its good for this country and i dont think it keeps us aligned with the eu that will make trade easier so potentially excite the break up of the uk as well. So, what ever way in which we can defeat that. One way is through an immense and i guess accepting that Boris Johnson through an immense and i guess accepting that borisjohnson is worried about. That we can block. You have not given us an answer yet, would you prefer that brexit deal done or not . I do not want this deal done, no. Iwould rather not done or not . I do not want this deal done, no. I would rather not have this deal done, thats the point. I think i am not imparting it right now and i dont get the sense that, i personally want a general election but yes. Ruth, a december election isa but yes. Ruth, a december election is a difficult time, so if you had the 12th of december, how difficult it is for you as a local candidate to get people knocking noise and get a team on the ground . |j to get people knocking noise and get a team on the ground . I appreciate its not everybodys top christmas for pre christmas activity but i dont think we will struggle to get people out, ive got a lot of volu nteers people out, ive got a lot of volunteers who are really enthused about coming out on the doorsteps, listening to residents with me and hearing their concerns and then telling them the really Exciting Programme that the government sets out by investments of schools and health care and more policing. We have quite a team thats really fired up and ready to go here. Have quite a team thats really fired up and ready to go harem have quite a team thats really fired up and ready to go here. If it isa fired up and ready to go here. If it is a stretch extension rather than a longer one presumably all this talk ofa longer one presumably all this talk of a pre christmas election from your perspective would want disappear and your goal would be to try and get the deal done . disappear and your goal would be to try and get the deal done . I would prefer try and get the deal done . I would p refer to try and get the deal done . I would prefer to see the deal done, we punish the public we want to deliver brexit, we do want to deliver brexit andi brexit, we do want to deliver brexit and i hope that happens. We are both parliamentary candidates, not mps and so we wont have any role in getting that done. My role is to get to no local community and to talk to residents here and find out about the priorities they want me to be campaigning on to make life better for them and that be doing and focusing on and they went to christmas and beyond. Best of luck in your constituencies, thank you for being with us. Who will play santa if there is an early election will it beJeremy Corbyn coryjohnson . Mark zuckerberg has been summoned to capitol hill in washington again. This time the us. House Financial Services committee wanted to talk to the facebook chief executive about a number of issues including his plans to launch a crypto currency. The chair of the Committee Maxine Waters suggested facebook should concentrate on sorting out its many existing deficiencies as she put it before lauching the libra currency. She focused in on the amount of Fact Checking facebook carries out. Let me be clear, you didnt know fa ct let me be clear, you didnt know Fact Checking on any ads, is that correct . What we do is be work with a set of independent fact checkers. Somebody fact checks on ads . You contract with someone to do that, is that right . Yes. Who is it that they fa ct that right . Yes. Who is it that they fact check on . What we do explain the content is getting a lot of distribution and extract by members of our community whereby our technical systems it can go into a two to be reviewed by a set of independent fact checkers. Mark zuckerberg saying there are a few checks on political ads on facebook. We arejoined by checks on political ads on facebook. We are joined by our technical technological correspondent who has been watching the hearing for us. How would you say Mark Zuckerberg did today . I think he is getting used to these hearings but thats not to say he was particularly co mforta ble not to say he was particularly comfortable at various points today i think that exchange you just there was particularly tricky for him and if you notice what he tried to do is deflect the issue away from political ads to talking about Fact Checking other which of course a different matter entirely. These co nsta nt different matter entirely. These constant hits about how facebook is running out its policies across the network and becoming a big problem for the company, so much so that Mark Zuckerberg now his position is basically saying i dont think i should have the power to do some of the things you are now doing which state that as i let him try to develop momentum responsibility may be some regulation that could help with that. But i think we are seeing frustration as he get to whats next yea rs frustration as he get to whats next years election here facebook i a key role in that and that seems to be one of the biggest concerns as they of lawmakers that facebook has not got on top of now has for seven yea rs. Got on top of now has for seven years. The reason he left there was to talk about libra, this crypto currency facebook is backing that we see the coalition he put together, a quarter of the names including visa mastercard dropping out, early support that is, how did that go . The goal i guess you can say when it came to describing his plans was to try and convince lawmakers it was an independent affect that facebook was just one of whats now 21 companies hoping to launch this currency. I think the issue there is that its so early days in the currency being launched that facebook is by far the biggest player and still has the biggest player and still has the biggest say even though it it claims not any more and facebook is the only company financially backing this new effort and self convincing lawmakers that they are on top of thatis lawmakers that they are on top of that is becoming difficult for them. I think one of the points that zuckerberg made which is what he is repeated often now if they are seeing if facebook does not do this, if facebook does not get the chance to see through this ambition, then somebody else will and that somebody potentially will be a chinese company. That is a point that they have made a few times and he does play particularly well in washington because if theres one thing theyre more afraid of them facebook it is china and that that seem to be an argument that zuckerberg will return to again and again when it comes to trying to gain the trust of lawmakers and theres an awful long way to go before the debate the stamp of approval and he has said hell only go ahead with these plans if it does get that approval from all the regulators and that would be all the regulators and that would be a toughjob. All the regulators and that would be a tough job. They say they want to launch this next year, known as peter says thats pretty ambitious. Whats fascinating about this is in the uk the bank of england governor says they dont regulate why they have no plans to regulate libra at this stage but they might do if it sta rts this stage but they might do if it starts to become a significant prospect which clearly at this point it is not. Yes, Mark Zuckerberg still to appear, lots of questions from this Point Committee on this site and he still to appear of course. More than 115,000 officially registered refugees are currently stuck in libya, unable to travel to europe, but unwilling to return home for fear of persecution. Some of them were inmates of a centre just outside tripoli hit by an airstrike injuly. 50 people were killed in that attack. Our International Correspondent 0rla guerin has been to meet some of the survivors, and heard more about their uncertain fate. A night of horror in tripoli. Collecting the data. Victims of an air strike collecting the data. Victims of an airstrike ona collecting the data. Victims of an air strike on a libyan run Detention Centre in the suburb. Migrants and refugees who dreamt of a better life in europe. This is the moment the missile struck. Hundreds were locked inside. We met some of them before the attack when we manage to get into the Detention Centre in april. The conflict was closing in, many already living in fear. Every time we hear gunshots, we had and every time, every day. After the attack, hundreds of made it out alive headed toa hundreds of made it out alive headed to a transit camp run by the United Nations refugee agency. Here they remain three months on, still trapped in a war zone with their trauma. His ten year old keeps relating what he witnessed. He was pulled from the wreckage by his father. I grabbed him and put him here on my shoulder and brought him out but when i walked i walked across the people. So when you were stepping on the ground you were stepping on the ground you were stepping on the ground you were stepping on bodies . Yes, that people. They were altogether. So please, we need help because every day will be here and what we see, we hear bombing from the other side in many places. They have found refuge here but it may be temporary. The un says for a transit camp is severely overcrowded and the solution is for the survivors to the outside volu nta ry the survivors to the outside voluntary risk aid but without protection. They say they have suffered enough and should be sent to safety abroad. These women from somalia begged us for help. To safety abroad. These women from somalia begged us for helplj to safety abroad. These women from somalia begged us for help. I want you to tell them to help us, move us from libya, we survived an explosion, we left our country because of explosions and now we are facing the same problems in libya. For others in the camp, ifinally hope backings. Time to say their goodbyes, heading not to europe but to about my wand out which has agreed to take him 500 of the most vulnerable refugees. This group will soon be on their way to a near future and a new life but many others remained and they are risk. United nations says there are about 3500 refugees and migrants still trapped here in libya in conflict zones. Trapped here in libya in conflict zones. And with so many left behind ina zones. And with so many left behind in a city under attack, there is a risk of another one. The belgian paralympian mareeka vervoort has ended her own life through euthanasia, at the age of a0. The athlete had an incurable muscle wasting disease which caused her constant pain and seizures. Vervoort won gold and silver at the london 2012 paralympics, and two further medals in rio in 2016. In a statement, her family said that despite her physical limitations, she had an impressive sports career. Kim jong un has ordered the demolition of all hotels and buildings built by south korea at a famous tourist resort in his country. He reportedly described them as looking like makeshift tents in a disaster stricken area, and say theyd be replaced by modern ones, built to north korean tastes. Its the latest sign of cooling relations between the two countries as the resort was once hailed as a symbol of inter korean co operation. This is beyond 100 days. Still to come why ditching bacon for breakfast is a key step in the fight against Climate Change. Universities have done too little to tackle racism on campus according to the equality and human rights commission. It says a quarter of black and asian Students Experience racial harassment and that universities are reluctant to face up to it for fear of damaging their reputation. Universities have described the report as sobering and shocking. Heres our education editor branwenjeffreys. Universities, places of learning, but not always tolerance. This t shirt warned went to a student events this term and this university has discipline the student involved. I make has discipline the student involved. Imakea has discipline the student involved. I make a recent graduate we are calling angela, and she was in a lecture at a medical school, instead of talking about african caribbean one name, that you to repeatedly use the n word. Everyone was very shocked, you kind of hear everyone gasping, there was an audible gasp in the lecture theatre. For you at a black student what was the emotional and psychological impact . M black student what was the emotional and psychological impact . It makes me feel quite left out and segregated and that i dont belong. For some students the effect of races is devastating. Universities worry about their reputation. And that has got in the way of taking racism on campus seriously. Students will only come forward if there is a safe way of reporting their concerns. And if they know there be acted on. Manchester united you and he has pioneered this app, it encouraged more students to report. No one wants to think that there any institution that is seen as sexist, racist or anything else. I think absolutely there is always attention and nervousness, its making everyone sit up and there are lots of people surprised and shocked. Universities say they report is sobering. They are promising urgent action. What will it take to stop Climate Change . We could drive and fly less, or recycle mor, but in a new book, authorjonathan safran foer has a radical proposal of his own. He says people need to stop eating meat, unless its in the evening. Yes, you will have to abandon that bacon at breakfast. Underlining the problem in his new book we are the weather he points out. If cows were a country, they would rank third for Greenhouse Gas emissions, after china and the United States. Animal agriculture is responsible for 91 of amazon deforestation. And there are approximately 30 farmed animals for every human on the planet. To discuss what needs to change, jonathan joins us now. Why stop at dinner, why they did not meet the breakfast and lunch why not go for the full day . One could, that would be a good thing but we could say never to fly away drive or use single use plastic, the two realities are its not what the pendant demands and two we are human beings. What we want to do is try to co ordinate the demands of the planets with our own psychologies and what we know is that citizens of iraq, the United States and the uk need to consumption by about 90 and barry by about 60 . That is dramatic, its a change most people will find to be at least not effortless but its a change we can make of a time and i think that if you were to ask the average person could you become a vegetarian tomorrow they would say no and if you were to say could you reduce the amount of meat you eat they would say yes. What do you think of the market response we are seeing, all these plant based alternatives whether its beyond burger, impossible burger. It affects the lives of consumers especially young consumers, an American College campuses now not just consumers, an American College campuses now notjust in berkeley or new york but a questing hat entire country there are more vegetarians than crack catholics. There are more vegetarians than any major of steady self is not a french identity, about ten years ago there we re identity, about ten years ago there were many more vegetarians than would admit to it because the aesthetics were a bit unappealing now there are many more people who admit to it and actually are vegetarian. I was in a group this morning and we were discussing this very issue about the sacrifices that we all have to make personally. At the conclusion we all came to was that inherently there are quite selfish. We say we should give up ourflight selfish. We say we should give up our flight but how many of us are not going to go on holiday this summerand he not going to go on holiday this summer and he city want to pay company for in a rush you grab a burger because you dont have time to make something and so we have these grand ideals but we dont carry through on the good intentions that we all have. Youre right. Im as guilty as you are that, i think pa rt as guilty as you are that, i think part of the problem we run into is very very vague about what our ideals and goals are, i had the experience of doing a book signing ata experience of doing a book signing at a young couple about 25 years old came up to me opened a book to the page that would be blank and instead it was still with their handwriting and they told me that we are getting married in a month and we decided we wa nt to married in a month and we decided we want to have a plan for how we are going to devise a couple this moment of Climate Crisis and a detailed list members and days of the week exactly what they were going to do. And it inspired me to create my own. Ifi and it inspired me to create my own. If i were to say im going to try to fly next less next year and it would not mind if i at all if i said i would drive less or eat less meat but as we start to say exactly what we mean and share it with other people i can share with you that im not going to fly for a vacation in 2020 even though i know im going to have to do something for work thats an entirely different kind of proposition and im held accountable ina proposition and im held accountable in a different way than if i said im a human being ill do my best but lets see. Thank you so much for coming in and sharing tips on what we can do. For three years on this programme, we have spoken of nothing else but the cliff edge. And today three years in, we stand, precipitously, on shifting sands, wondering whether there is any solution. And so for those of you who lay awake worrying about it, this story is for you. In north jutland, in denmark, a 120 year Old Lighthouse that was perilously close to the cliff edge has been moved. Quite literally, picked up and moved. The engineers put their lighthouse on wheels and rails and they moved it 196 feet inland. At times it was moving imperceptibly slowly, much like brexit, in fact maybe it was moving quicker than brexit but still the danes watched, some of them watched on tv, not quite believing that anything was actually happening. Sound familiar . But there it was, inching, step by step towards safety. 720 tonnes. A shining light of what can be done, when the cliff edge stands in front of you, and the storm looks as if its about to swallow you. Denmark we salute you just to carry on that metaphor, inching back from the cliff edge i dont know what we should read into that if you are talking about brexit. Bu remembered they used to do this in norway, snow television and they spent eight hours 20 of the population watch the fire burning, maybe we are revolutionising with brexit slow television, we are all tuning and hoping something change but enjoying the fact that it never changes, it just goes on. What happens to fish tanks . Brexit is been yourfish tank, see you tomorrow. Good evening. We have seen plenty of wet leather across the uk already this month. And another dollop of heavy rain to come for england and wales for the next few days. But by the time were done, were anticipating we will have an above average 0ctober rain for next week. Looking quieter and internal conditions, but it will start to feel chillier. Here currently the mercy of an area of low pressure, we have got one front towards the and another one getting down from the northwest and a band that shall waiting to move in after that. These two fronts will merge together in the next 12 hours or so, bringing reigning to england and wales. But actually rather like patch most of the rain across western beaches of england and wales a bit wetter overnight for the northwest of england. Its as those fronts trickl their way further east threads there is the we will see a bit of reinvigoration and perhaps some policies of heavy rain especially to the second half of the day across central and eastern areas of england. Brighte rskies close to the low centre in Northern Ireland and scotland sent showers rolling through during the day. In terms of temperatures, about 11 to 1a should cover it. Colder air starting to dig down into the north of scotland and around that low Pressure Centre later on thursday and into friday. Still pretty mild to the south between the two air masses, weather front that will sneak across the uk on friday sitting across england and wales, and not really deviating from its track for about 36 hours. The rain will keep coming and it could potentially cause problems, quite windy to the southwest, still strong winds across scotland, drier weather here central and eastern areas, showers in the northwest. Chillier air pushing in, some snow as our front bumps into a northwards, and it keeps leaving its way across wales and parts of Northern England well into saturday. 100 mm of rain, four inches possible for some spots as it starts to pull away southwards for the end of the weekend. So, the risk of some disruption i think friday and saturday for parts of wales and the northwest of england in particular chance but could be affected and a lot of surface water. Much quieter story as it pulls off into the continent for sunday. This is bbc news. Im lukwesa burak. The headlines at 8pm essex police are investigating the deaths of 39 people whose bodies were found in a lorry container. This matter has attracted national and International Interest, and its absolutely imperative that the operation is conducted with the utmost respect for the 39 people whove lost their lives. The lorry driver has been arrested on suspicion of murder. Hes been named locally as 25 year old mo robinson, from the portadown area of County Armagh in Northern Ireland. Borisjohnson and Jeremy Corbyn meet to try to find a way through the brexit stalemate. President trump has said hell lift the sanctions he imposed on turkey