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An election can fix the stalemate. A high level warning that a generation of children with special Educational Needs are being let down by the reforms that were supposed to help them. Fracking underfire. A damning new report warns the uks shale gas industry has been too slow and too costly to bring any real benefits. Ill look at the future forfracking in the uk. Its a five star night for the english clubs in the Champions League as harry kane revives tottenhams qualification hopes, Raheem Sterling scores a hat trick, as Manchester City beat atalanta. Back in the public eye meghan makes herfirst public appearance since revealing shes struggling with media attention. Good morning, we are looking at rain today across scotland and Northern Ireland, dry and bright across england and wales with a few showers in the south east. More details in 15 minutes. Its wednesday, 23rd october. Our top story. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill, which is the main brexit legislation, by a majority of 30. It was the first time mps had backed a brexit deal. But the government lost the second vote on the parliamentary timetable. Some mps believed three days just wasnt enough time to debate the details. Borisjohnson then told the commons that the bill would be paused, whilst the eu said it will approve an extention so does this all pave the way for a general elction before the end of the year . Heres our Political Correspondent, jonathan blake. Last night, mps had their say on borisjohnsons brexit deal. Their verdict . Yes and no. The ayes have it, the ayes have. The noes have it, the noes have it. Mps gave their backing to the deal as it stands but voted against the governments timetable for its passage through parliament. I must express my disappointment at the house has again voted for delay, rather than a timetable that would have guaranteed on october 31st with a deal. And we now face further uncertainty and the eu must now make up their minds over how to answer parliaments request for a delay. Tonight, the house has refused to be bounced into debating a hugely significant piece of legislation in just two days with barely any notice and an analysis of the Economic Impact of this bill. The Prime Minister is the author of his own misfortune. With little chance now of mps passing the brexit bill by the deadline of october 31st, the Prime Minister has pressed the pause button until the eu decides on the extension he was forced to ask for. The president of the European Council said he would recommend eu leaders should grant a delay. If that happens, a downing street source said the only way to move on would be with a general election. And, once an extension to brexit is secured, opposition parties are poised to back going to the polls. Watch closely for the next move. Jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. Were joined now by our Political Correspondent, helen catt at westminster. Good morning to you. So, general election. I cant imagine what people are thinking when they wake up people are thinking when they wake up this morning and then, ok, thats next, is it . What are we thinking about this . It looks closer than it has been of late. A lot will depend on what the eu comes back with is the length of the extension. Boris johnson suggested if it was pushing back the brexit deadline for several months, he will push for a general election. Borisjohnson months, he will push for a general election. Boris johnson cannot unilaterally decide to go on. Under the fixed term parliaments act he has to have the support of two thirds of mps in the house of commons. In normal times that wouldnt be a problem getting Opposition Mps to vote for an election as we never tire of saying we are not in usual times. When borisjohnson has tried twice in the last few months to get an election opposition parties have said no, we wont give you that and the reason we are not going to do that is because we are worried there could because we are worried there could be no deal brexit while the Election Campaign is happening so if an extension was agreed which pushes the deal back into january, might that be enough for the opposition parties to say now we will press on and have yet election. Have you heard anything from the labour party, though, indicating it will or wont support it . You spoke about what it has said in the past but what it has said in the past but what about now . We saw yesterday Jeremy Corbyn focusing on offering borisjohnson talks to try to work out a timetable to get his brexit deal properly scrutinise so theyve been looking at that end of it and we will wait and see what we hear coming out of labour camps over the next few days about the possibility ofa next few days about the possibility of a general election. Theyve consistently said we want an election, we want to take no deal off the table first so itll be a case of seeing what happens when they follow through. The interesting thing is having spoken to individual mps from all parties over the last few weeks there isnt a massive appetite among individual mps for an election particularly one that happens before we left the eu because they are worried brexit will dominate the debate and they wont talk about the issues they want to on domestic policy. Imagine what the general public thinks as well helen, thanks very much. A generation of children with special Educational Needs are being let down day after day, according to a report from mps. The Education Select Committee has strongly criticised the implementation of reforms brought in five years ago in england, designed to improve support available for families. Our education correspondent, frankie mccamley, reports. If i hadnt found the group here i wouldnt have known where to start. Whether its just a cup of tea, a chance to meet others in a similar situation or an offer of legal advice, this group of parents, who all have children with special Educational Needs, get together every week. How are you coping . I dont, most days. I get up and i get dressed in the hope that at least one of them might say, i want to go to school today, mum but it never happens. But you just keep going. We found we were discharged from the Speech Therapy Services Three times i think it was at least by the time he had finished reception. And he is 15 now and he is still selectively mute. Ive got a 13 year old with autism. Couldnt get any social care assessment for him. Just had one but that has been three years of asking. Itsjust culture and peoples attitudes towards children with disabilities and its a real shame. Following an 18 month inquiry, the Education Select Committee says the system is not working. Its no good just throwing more money at the system or literally using like a plaster or elastoplast to solve individual problems as they may arise. The government needs to give it a strong direction, needs to give it much more guidance to councils to see this as a major area of social injustice in our country. It is shameful and its wrong. Councils that run the services say they have reached a Tipping Point with funding not keeping up with demand. The government says it is investing more and once the system more and want the system to work for every child. But, for these parents, like thousands across the country, they just want their children to have the best possible chance in life and get the support they were promised. Frankie mccamley, bbc news. Fracking in the uk has progressed far more slowly than originally expected and public support is waning, according to a report by the National Audit office. It says fracking a controversial method of drilling the earth for shale gas has so far cost the tax payer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs. The industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy. The duchess of sussex has made her first public appearance since revealing she and prince harry are struggling with media attention. Meghan was attending a Charity Event at the Royal Albert Hall. Last week, in an interview on itv, she described her past year as a member of the royal family as hard and admitted she was not prepared for the intensity of the tabloid interest. Weve all seen pictures of houses at risk of toppling into the sea because of coastal erosion. Well, take a look at this. A i20 year Old Lighthouse in denmark has just been successfully moved away from the edge of a sandy cliff. Engineers managed to lift it up onto two tracks and slide it about 70 metres, at the dizzying speed of up to eight metres per hour. Dan the crowd turned out to see their speedy removal. Naga it took six hours and thousands of people came to watch. Its thought the move will ensure its future for at least another two decades. I like this, i dont like buildings toppling into the sea. Dan it is a feat of engineering. Another 20 years and that will be gone as well. Naga i like to think more about how you dig into the foundations, get it up, id like to know. Dan youd like more detailed . Thats a test, send naga more details of that. We have a few hours. Naga we could get it done do you know, happy husband, happy life. Painful spurs fan. Has he come down off the ceiling yet . Naga he has had this ban from all his friends hes never been allowed to go toa his friends hes never been allowed to go to a spurs match in the last two years because every time he went they lost. So, he went yesterday. Forget about the manager it is nagas husband naga all his friends were, like, dont go, dont go much needed win for them, ten goals between them, five nil, the clean sheet is important. And Raheem Sterling with a hat trick and harry kane with a double as well, as you are probably where a well of you are probably where a well of you are probably where a well of you are probably well aware of. Its a five star night for spurs in the Champions League. 5 0 for theirfirst win of the group phase. The england captain said it was the perfect way to respond after a tough run of results. Raheem sterling scored a hat trick as Manchester City edged closer to qualification with a 5 1 victory over the italian side atalanta. Sol campbells back in football. The former England International has been appointed the new manager of League One Side southend united. And the build up continues to saturdays huge Rugby World Cup semifinal between england and new zealand, where the two coaches have been extremely complimentary about each other. But eddiejones getting in some mind games, suggesting all the pressure is off his side. Dan i have a wedding on saturday and the groom. How are you playing that . Dan going around early for the wedding breakfast and watching the game and then off to the church. We all know what the priority is, dont we . Naga has the time of the wedding been arranged . Dan , no, it is about 12 oclock. Perfect for the kick off. Naga and a drinking role watching the game . Dan a full english fried breakfast, of course. There will be a beer there. Dan just an orange juice, john. Naga believe that, youll believe anything. Large orange juice naga believe that, youll believe anything. Large orangejuice for brea kfast . Anything. Large orangejuice for breakfast . Not on carols watch, tell you that much what are you suggesting . Naga im not suggesting, iam saying out loud youve no shame, its a cup of tea today we have mixed fortunes with the weather. We have some sunshine but but there will also be showers and there is rain, rain across scotland, Northern Ireland and of it getting in around southern parts of england with fog first thing this morning across south east wales, central southern england and southern england. It is patchy but some of it could be denser if youre travelling take care. Look at what is happening around the balearics and southern parts of france. In the last 2a hours, 75,000 lightning strikes that is a large, torrential rain and also damaging winds. Gusty winds across the north and west as to whether france approach as bringing rain with them. Cloud spilling ahead of them and in the south east a week with a front introducing more cloud and sharon outbreaks. You can see that here. In between, a lot of dry weather, even some sunshine to look forward to with temperatures ranging from i in the north to 15 in the south so once again today the temperature is bang on where they should be at this time of october. Through the evening and overnight, the weather front in the south east picks up and moves further north. The weather front coming in across the north west sinks further south. There will be some clearer skies in between with patchy mist and fog in between and quite a chilly night for quite a lot of us. The temperatures indicate what you can expect in towns and cities but in rural areas it will be lower than this. Tomorrow, to whether france, the whole lot heading towards the south east taking the rain with them but low pressure in the west brings in showers and look at the squeeze on isobars so, once again tomorrow itll be windy across western scotla nd itll be windy across western scotland and the Northern Isles with exposure, gusts of 60 miles an hour. Showers turn heavy and thundery, some of them across Northern Ireland as well but, still, a lot of dry weather as the fronts pushed down into the south east with the rain, potentially no clearing the far south east until the evening time. As we head through thursday and into friday, look at the cold air, represented by the blue, bangs into the warmer air represented by the yellow. What impact does that have . We have a weather front coming in from the south west introducing all those rain. The position of this could change a little bit. It could be further north or south. After a dry start even with sunshine cloud builds ahead of this front and as the mild air engages with the cold air, we could see some sleet, snow across the pennines and the Southern Uplands which might have an impact on yourjourney home from work. Might be disruptive, something worth bearing in mind. We also have a weather front across the north west of scotland. Here, too, particularly wind with rain and then a dry slot in these fronts. There could be some disruption, some localised flooding because we have rain in showers around through the course of saturday as well. Sunday is a bit more settled but it isnt going to be warm so just a heads up and a reminder if youre travelling during the course of friday and saturday because wales, north west england in particular could see some disruption due to the heavy rain and dont forget on thursday in the higher roots you could see some sleet and snow, naga and dan. Thanks very much lets take a look at todays front pages. Most of the papers including the guardian focus on last nights brexit votes. The paper claims that borisjohnson will now speak to eu leaders and urge them not to agree to a long extension. Naga yeah, but no but is the suns headline, noting that nine former tories voted against the governments timetable plans last night. Theres also a picture of the duchess of sussex, who attended an event at the Royal Albert Hall last night. And you could win a van, look at that pms brexit horror is how the mirror sums up yesterdays developments in the house of commons. And theres a picture of Meghan Markle again, alongside claims of a deepening rift in the royal family. Naga the times is one of the few papers not to lead on brexit. Instead it reports on a drug that apparently slows down the progression of alzheimers. A new treatment might slow the decline by 25 which is said to be a turning point. It isnt leading, but half the pages borisjohnson frustrated there. We started with ben yesterday so lets go on tojohn to mix it up. Balance and all that. I love this, the headline is the smiling assassin and that is apt with eddiejones because he has this brilliant ability of smiling through whatever news he is delivering. Imagine if you are in the team and he tells you you are in the team and he tells you you are in the team and he tells you you are dropped, he says it with a smile on his face. Im going to kill you, mate and smile at you when he does it. Naga do it again im going to kill you, mate. Dan i thought he was a straining, john. Its like being on ramsay street is one of the few people to smile constantly when he is delivering bad or serious news. Naga so, the smiling assassin as his new moniker. Dan he doesnt call those who are not in the first 15 substitutes, he calls them finishers. Its all about the psychology. Youre not a substitute, you are part of the team asa substitute, you are part of the team as a finisher. Naga how was your finishing . Good morning to you. This is the most fascinating story, im obsessed with this because this has the making of a hollywood blockbuster, all the shenanigans that seem to be going on behind the scenes. Softbank invested into wework, a company that hires buildings, rents them out per floor, per desk, per office and if youre a small business, you might rent a little bit of it. Naga i see loads of these in the city. Its the biggest landlord in london and new york it has taken over this much stuff. You can rent a desk or get a whole floor or whatever. At one point valued at a staggering £47 billion. Sorry, dollars, i should say and then it became unravelled because people started questioning does it make any money . They are still not reporting a profit and that valuation has falle n a profit and that valuation has fallen to 8 billion. It was founded in 2010. It has grown pretty quickly. The reason it is interesting today and the reason Im Still Holding this is because the bossis Still Holding this is because the boss is leaving. And he is walking away with a staggering 1. 7 billion. That is in less than ten years. He has been at the centre of this row at the firm, basically a lot of people questioning his motivation, questioning his strategy. He had a private jet which was sold off. Hes going to walk away because of this investment from japan and with 1. 7 billion. Not bad for a day at the office but clearly lots of questions about their business and whether it can make any money. Im going to follow that because it has been bubbling that. You should try to get him on, see what he says. Dan have you got another one . On a by dan have you got another one . On a rugby theme, they are practising for a penalty shoot out if the semifinals is drawn. They will play two periods of ten minutes each way and then a sudden death. Despite that fact, which you might think it would be unlikely, there will be five kicks at the post of the scores are five kicks at the post of the scores a re level five kicks at the post of the scores are level which new zealand are preparing for so perhaps they think england will offer up a stern test. They should fix brexit like that, a penalty shoot out. Boris doing a penalty shoot out. Boris doing a penalty shoot out. Boris doing a penalty shoot out . Naga put that Team Together how is your pumpkin carving . Dan not that into halloween is a household. Naga really . Ithought household. Naga really . I thought you would be chief pumpkin carver. For what reason . Dan it is all a little bit too evil, halloween, a little bit too commercial. Dont go trick or treating around dans. Naga consumers are expected to discard 8 million pumpkins at halloween. Record levels of food waste. The equivalent to more than 18,000 tonnes of edible pumpkin flesh heading for the binsjust think about it if youre carving a pumpkin next week. Dan pumpkin pie naga yes, there is pumpkin pie and there is a creamy pumpkin risotto with bacon and leaks recipe. Will you cook that for us all . Naga you cook it, you memorise it. Dan you went out for dinner last night, didnt you . We didnt have this dan did you get an invite, john . No. I was busy anyway. Dan yeah, working on your australian accent . Naga wasting your time. Whats coming up on the programme. Improving survival rates for extremely premature babies mean it is now possible to save the lives of some of those born at 22 weeks, according to new guidance. Advice until now had been to only give life saving treatment to those born at 23 weeks. Around 3,000 babaies are born extremely premature in the uk every year. Katherine da costa explains. Two happy, inquisitive little boys. Jensen and reuben from brighton recently celebrated their first birth days, a major milestone given the risky start to life. Their motherjenny was on holiday in cornwall when she went into early labour. She was airlifted to the closest specialist Neonatal Unit in oxford. There the twins were delivered at 22 weeks and six days, 4. 5 months before their due date, making them the youngest surviving twins in the uk. It was so uncertain at all times. You were scared to leave the unit for five minutes for fear that everything would have changed when you got back. They were so vulnerable and their saturations would change and you would, you would hear the alarms go off and you would worry that if i am not here now, that i will get my chance to say goodbye. So it was always on edge, always on edge. Despite progress, the chances of survival are still low. Data from 2016 shows there were nearly 500 babies born at 22 weeks in the uk. Most didnt survive labour or were given Palliative Care to ease their suffering. 43 were given treatment to try to save their lives. Of those, just a third survived. 22 weeks is the earliest a baby can survive because their lungs arent developed enough. The Research Found that for a baby born just a week later at 23 weeks, survival rates have doubled in the last decade to 38 . But decisions over care remember complex. Care remain complex. One of the things that we make a lot of in this framework is the importance that these decisions have to be made on a case by case basis. These extremely premature babies are all different. And a decision cant be based simply on the babys level of maturity or gestation. It also has to take into account all the other factors that might affect ba bys chances. Jenny knows the heartache of losing a baby too soon. Two years before having her twins, her son was stillborn at 23 weeks. She welcomes the guidance that makes parents a central part of Decision Making and praise the care her family received. They treated me with utter compassion and really were fighting as hard as they could and we were alljust hoping and willing that the outcome would be different for us because i think they could tell how desperately we wanted our family. Jenny calls them her miracle boys. She hopes continued improvements in neonatal treatment will mean many more extremely premature babies will go on to defy the odds. Katherine da costa, bbc news, in oxford. If you dont smile at that even if you dont like kids, you can still smile at that. Dan do you put yourself there . Naga time is 6 26am, shall we get the news, travel and weather where you are . Reset and see you soon. Ouch. Good morning from bbc london, im sonja jessup. From today, some londoners will be able to get up to £2,000 if they scrap their older, more polluting cars as part of attempts to clean up the capitals toxic air. The mayors launched a £25 million fund thats open to disabled drivers and those on lower incomes. Londons ultra low emission zone is due to be expanded from 2021 as far as the north and south circular roads. Campaigners against the controversial redevelopment of the Shopping Centre at elephant and castle have taken their challenge to the high court. The judicial review has been sought by local people and traders who want more social housing and a better deal for Shopping Centre traders. Southwark council insists the plans are a vast improvement for the area. Now patients at hospitals across the capital have been getting a bedside visit from this guy hes a therapy cat. His name is mr london meow and here he is making one of his rounds to the Older Persons ward at the royal london in whitechapel. Hes part of the team at the charity pets as therapy which aims to support recovery by bringing animals to hospitals, hospices and care homes. He has his way with people. So hes very charming. He is very generous. He is very bubbly and fun. I think he has a sense to be around someone, if that someone needs a little bit of attention or care. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. The london overground not off to a good start theres been a fire next to the track at olympia theres currently no service between Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction. That fires also affected southern trains theres no service between Clapham Junction and Milton Keynes central. A quick look at the roads this is how it looks at the blackwall tunnel, usual rush hour delays there heading northbound. And the a3 west hill is still closed between tibbets corner and upper richmond road for works. Lets take a look at the weather then heres kate kinsella. Good morning. It is a chilly start out there this morning and once again there is a little bit of mist and fog to contend with. It will gradually lift though only to be replaced with cloud and some outbreaks of rain. So, for some, a bright start this morning ahead of the cloud. As that mist and fog lift, as i said, the cloud will arrive and with it we will get some rain as well. Some heaviers burst mixed in there through the afternoon, especially. Temperatures today a little bit cooler then yesterday at 15 celsius. We will still have some rain into this evening but gradually it will start to clear. It is going to remain rather cloudy, though, the minimum temperature warmer than last night or milder than last night, between 9 11 celsius. So, a cloudy start tomorrow. We will see some rain through the day but slowly it will clear away east. It is a cold front, so behind it overnight thursday into friday, a clear affair. A dry start friday, to the west you might get a bit of rain in the afternoon. Then rain overnight into the first part of the weekend. A rather wet day for saturday. Drier, brighter and cooler for sunday. Thats it for now. Be back in around half an hour. Check out our website for more news. Good morning welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. It has just it hasjust gone it has just gone 6 30am. Well bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment, but also on breakfast this morning. What next for brexit . Are we heading for a general election . Well get the latest analysis from our political pundits at westminster very shortly. Later, Prince Charles has allowed cameras to follow him at work on his beloved duchy of cornwall for a year. Well get a glimpse behind the scenes. And sir David Attenboroughs cameraman lindsey mccrae will be here to tell us about filming these magnificent pictures and the very personal sacrifice he made to realise his dream of working in antarctica. How can you not love an emperor penguin . Did you read the bit in the book, he has written a book about his whole experience. He was so excited about seeing the emperor penguins. These two came charging at them. Charged at them, got there and then bound bowed at him. Can you imagine that . A marvellous story. It is 6 31am. Good morning, heres a summary of todays main stories from bbc news. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill, which is the main brexit legislation, by a majority of 30. It was the first time mps had backed a brexit deal. But the government lost the second vote on the parliamentary timetable some mps believed three days just wasnt enough time to debate the details. Borisjohnson then told the commons that the bill would be paused, whilst the eu said it will approve an extention. So does this all pave the way for a general elction before the end of the year . Heres our Political Correspondent, jonathan blake. Last night the mps had their say on the brexit deal. Mps gave their backing to the deal as it stands but voted against the governments timetable for its passage through timetable. I am disappointed at the house for voting for the billy. Rather than a timetable that the uk would be in a position to leave the eu on october the 31st, with a deal. We now face further uncertainty and the eu must now make up their mind over how to answer parliaments request for a delay. Tonight the house has refused to be bounced into debating a hugely significant piece of legislation injust debating a hugely significant piece of legislation in just two days with just barely any notice and the Economic Impact of the bell. The Prime Minister is the author of his owii Prime Minister is the author of his own misfortune. With little chance now of mps passing the brexit deadline by october the 31st, the Prime Minister has pressed the pause button. The president of the European Council said he would recommend that eu leaders should granta recommend that eu leaders should grant a delay. If that happens, a downing street source said the only way to move on is whether general election. And once an extension to brexit is secured, opposition parties are poised to going back to the polls. A generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day according to a report from mps. A generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day according to a report from mps. The Education Select Committee has strongly criticised reforms brought in five years ago in england that were designed to improve a generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day according to a report from mps. Support for families. The government says it is boosting funding for local authorities in order to help those with the most complex needs. Fracking in the uk has progressed far more slowly than originally expected and public support is waning, according to a report by the National Audit office. It says fracking a controversial method of drilling the earth for shale gas has so far cost the tax payer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs. The industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy. The duchess of sussex has made her first public appearance since revealing she and prince harry are struggling with media attention. Meghan was attending a Charity Event at the Royal Albert Hall. Last week, in an interview on itv, she described her past year as a member of the royal family as hard and admitted she was not prepared for the intensity of the tabloid interest. One more story to bring you. Weve all seen pictures of houses at risk of toppling into the sea because of coastal erosion. Well, take a look at this. A 120 year Old Lighthouse in denmark has just been successfully moved away from the edge of a sandy cliff. Engineers managed to lift it up onto two tracks and slide it about 70 metres at the dizzying speed of up to eight metres per hour. It took six hours, and thousands of people came to watch. Its thought the move will ensure its future for at least another two decades. Good you like preserving an old building dont you . I do, i love a bit of history. You know you made some demands about more information. We are very demanding this morning. Very demanding. If we got a shot we would be happy with thatjohn . Very demanding. If we got a shot we would be happy with that john . Do you know what was good enough, Manchester Citys performance and tottenham. Two of englands best at their best. Harry kane scoring to. Tottenham. Two of englands best at their best. Harry kane scoring tolj am confused by that picture. Have you join them together . It does imply that you have got Manchester City and tottenham in the same frame. Even the crowd. You have done a good job. I know you too are hard to please at the moment. Not the right shots, not the right pictures. Two brilliant performances from harry kane and Raheem Sterling on what was a five star night for the english sides in the Champions League. Tottenham havent been able to say that too many times this season, as adam wild reports. Amidst the light show at tottenham a desperate need to brighten the gloom. Last years run to the finals seemingly a dimming memory. Fans keen to capture those good times once more. Against Red Star Belgrade it didnt take too long. Harry kane a constant amongst the inconsistent this season, his header relieving the pressure. Moments later Heung Min Son added another, this suddenly more like the spurs supporters expected. Confidence returning off and on the field, son scored the third before half time. They game all but, the question now by how many . Erik lamela with a fourth before harry kane finished what he had started. 5 0 to spurs, their biggest ever Champions League victory. That gloom in those spirits lifted at spurs. For Manchester City, a comfortable night too although they did have to come from behind a guy against italian from behind against italian side atalanta, but once Sergio Aguero had put them in charge, the brilliance of Raheem Sterling did the rest. A second half hat trick for the england star, a spectacular sparkling performance and not even the sending off of phil foden could spoil. 5 1 to city on another sterling night in europe. Adam wilde, bbc news. Sol campbell in back in football, but has a huge task on his hands if hes to keep southend in league one. He managed to steer macclesfield to safety in his previousjob, but watched southend who are second from bottom, lose 7 1 last night. He has brought in andy cole, the former newcastle and Manchester United striker as attack coach. Wales play south africa in the other semifinal. The squad met Prince Charles this morning. A special moment for the squad ahead of this weekends big game to come, just scraping through beating france. England play new zealand on saturday. Finally, is this the most ridiculous fine youve ever come across . Nfl player Odell Beckham jr, who plays for the Cleveland Browns, has been fined over 14,000 because his pants failed to cover the knee area during a game. Has that got to come below the knee . Can you believe that . That seems a little bit ridiculous. What it went down as a uniform violation. I dont understand. But look at the person next to him on the left of the picture. That might be the referee. That is cleveland brown. Get him fined. Crazy, right . That is the extent of how much focus there is and what you are wearing. Thank you very much. 20 minutes to sevenis thank you very much. 20 minutes to seven is the time. It was another significant day in parliament yesterday. How many times are we going to say that . For the first time, enough mps got behind borisjohnsons eu withdrawal bill which aims to turn his brexit deal into law. However, they rejected the proposed three day timetable in which to debate all of its intricate details. So what happens next . Joining us now from westminster is sonia sodha from the observer, and asa bennett from the telegraph. Good morning to you both. We were talking about steps forward. What did you think of yesterday. Asa we will start with you. What is your assessment . It was a cancan of manoeuvres yesterday. One leg forward from borisjohnson talking about the detail. They liked it. And thenit about the detail. They liked it. And then it seemed like they wanted to see the Prime Minister fall flat on his face without having the 3d timetable. When you do not have the timetable. When you do not have the time to spare, you need that timetable to work otherwise youre going to get dragged through the house of lords and Everything Else and having then to be forced to go to eu leaders to say yes, you know that letter i sent you through the weekend . We that letter i sent you through the weekend . We may that letter i sent you through the weekend . We may need to do something about it and agree to have brexit delayed. He can say that parliament forced him into this position. Sonia, can you see anything other than a general election . No. I think that losing that timetable that borisjohnson wanted that losing that timetable that Boris Johnson wanted is that losing that timetable that borisjohnson wanted is really critical forum. I think a lot depends now on the eu and what the eu come back with. We have got that letter for an extension with them. Donald tusk is saying that it is being considered. I think they will grant as the extension we have asked for. I do not think the eu wants to be seen interfering in uk politics at all. They will grant as an extension until the 31st ofjanuary. Then we need to look at what labour will do. I think borisjohnson may try and get his bill through in the next couple of weeks but ijust dont think he has got any chance of doing that. I dont think we should get too excited about the fact that it has passed its second reading. If you look at the list of mps who supported it, there are quite a few oii supported it, there are quite a few on that list who said they would not general election territory. They thing from borisjohnson, the power to grant him a general election sits with the labour party. So what their labour party is thinking on timing, should they say yes if Boris Johnson aswan election next week . Should they ask him to sit out for another few weeks. That thinking is really crucial in determining when a general election might be. Crucial in determining when a general election might hem crucial in determining when a general election might be. It is fascinating. There is still so much that could happen. It did seem to be from an e point of view, it seems that donald tusk was six suggesting that donald tusk was six suggesting that extension may be forthcoming. Absolutely. The 31st of january, that they could just send a memo around to the eu 27, agree it in writing. But Emmanuel Macron has indicated that he is not sure about this. He is sceptical about a deadline and so if there was a lack of unanimity amongst eu leaders they might have to have a special summit about this to wrangle over the detail. However some people may suggest that this may not be necessary. Maybe you just need to smooth him over and they can move things on. Nonetheless we will still have some drama on the brussels end because they want to show the Prime Minister they agree with them, they do not want to throw as a delay after delay after delay. They want to get this done just as much is the as readers. To get this done just as much is the as readers. We will be talking to ken clarke later he is one of those asking for a discussion around the uk Customs Union. Various other amendments and changes that have been suggested. It will be a confusing pick in that picture in the house of commons. For the government to get its timetable through it means it has put it on pause. You will get conversation around mps about what changes they wa nt around mps about what changes they want to see around the bill but they will not get a chance over the next few days to put them to parliament. There are three big amendments people will be watching. Mps who wa nt people will be watching. Mps who want to soften the brexit saying the uk would stay in the Customs Union. We would see an amendment on that the next time the bell is put through for the house of commons. And then a second referendum. I think there should be a referendum oii think there should be a referendum on this deal, it is the only democratic thing to do. It does not look like the numbers are there at the moment. This third kind of big change that mps will try and make this around this Boris Johnsons milk creates another cliff edge in 2020. Milk creates another cliff edge in 2020. Boris johnsons milk creates another cliff edge in 2020. Borisjohnsons deal creates. I think they will have to hold fire because we are not going to see that bill before parliament over the next few days now that mps voted down the timetable. Over the next few days now that mps voted down the timetablelj over the next few days now that mps voted down the timetable. I saw vigorous head shake there. It was the idea of a second referendum. We will not get the time for that. Instead we will have an election and borisjohnson, as someone who is more than ten points ahead ofJeremy Corbyn, can then take this back to the people. Back to a fresh parliament. As he has been saying, he wants to get brexit done. Be it before christmas or boxing day if he wa nts to before christmas or boxing day if he wants to really terrify mps. So much to digests. Good to talk to you both today. Not on boxing day its not happening on boxing day. We are going to be talking to Robert Buckland, the justice going to be talking to Robert Buckland, thejustice secretary. We will be talking to the shadow justice secretary and ken clarke. We will be talking to him as well. He has been in parliament for 49 years. He is stepping down in the next elections. Not 100 confirmed yet. I will ask that question. Someone who is not going to step down. Occasionally we let her out but she is on occasionally we let her out but she isona occasionally we let her out but she is on a short leash. Good morning. How are you . Very well. Todays whether, if you have a brolly, it might be worth taking because of the rain. These weather fronts are responsible for the rain coming our way across scotland and Northern Ireland. This one into the south east but look at what is happening in western parts in the mediterranean. In the last few days we have had torrential rain, some damaging winds. Pictures from menorca and from ibiza. The lightning strikes, 354 lightning strikes in the western mediterranean in the last 24 hours and it is still going on at the moment. Back at home, we have got the fog to lift and it will do. Then we will see sunny skies developing for a time. More cloud and showery outbreaks of rain coming in later. In Northern Ireland and west of scotland, the rain will be accompanied with gusty winds. In between in the dry slots we are looking at 12 14 degrees, but generally we are buying on where we are in this stage in october. This evening and overnight, this rain moves further north. This one wea ke ns a rain moves further north. This one weakens a little bit and think south and in between is a drier slot and here under clear skies we could see patchy mist and fog form once again. A chilly night particularly so in rural areas. As we head into thursday, watch what happens. The cold front sinking south moves the other one out the way and they head off onto the near continent. There will be heavy thundery showers and winds as well, we could have gusts up winds as well, we could have gusts up to about 60 mph. Further south, a lot of dry weather and sunny skies with a few showers and there goes our weather front taking that rain into the pharisees eastern corner. Far south eastern. Temperatures from 11 to 15. Then a battle to weather the warmer or milder air winning. Where they collide that is where we could see some snow on Higher Ground. This weather front coming into the south west will push north eastwards through the day. It ahead of a dry and a bright start, some showers merging across the north of scotland, still very windy here. Here comes the rain pushing in from the south west, heading northwards. We could see snow in the Southern Uplands and pennines. Very windy in southern sds, gusty winds as it will be across though not. This could lead to some disruption. It is nine minutes to seven. Welcome to breakfast. Fracking. Do you or dont you . Its incredibly controversial but a new report today is casting doubt on the benefits of fracking. Bens with us. Weve heard the pros and cons of fracking for years. Supporters, including the government say its the solution to our energy needs, by reducing our reliance on imported gas and to help cut our bills. Critics say its too expensive, bad for the environment and just too slow. Remember fracking, or hydraulic fracturing to give it the proper name, involves drilling down and then sideways into shale rock. The British Geological survey estimates there are 13,000 trillion cubic feet of shale Gas Resources in northern england. The drill is trying to reach desposits of natural gas trapped in the rock. Once the well has been drilled, water, chemicals and sand are pumped in at High Pressure to fracture the rock and expand it. That releases the gas which is then pumped out of the well. It can then be collected and used to heat homes or given to power stations to convert to electricity. Sounds fine but progress has been very slow. Todays report says that the government expected 20 fracked wells by mid 2020 butjust three have been drilled so far and there are no more in development. The cost of those three wells . £32. 7 million. That includes a big chunk spent on policing costs to secure these sites. They are very controversial and there have been lots of protests about the impact on the environment and public health. In fact, the report says opposition to fracking has gone up from 21 in 2013 to 40 today. The report is pretty damning. It says the government hasnt analysed the costs and benefits, hasnt developed the right technology and hasnt worked out a plan for cleaning up after the fracking. That wasnt all. This is the author of the report. The economic benefits around fracking are uncertain. The government itself doesnt think it will have a Significant Impact on gas prices. They are set internationally. If it were to take off in the uk, it would not be significant enough to change that much. What have Fracking Companies said to this . Well, there isjust one major player in the uk. Cuadrilla. They have been forced to suspend operations in lancashire because of an earthquake in august 2. 9 on the richter scale. There had been reports they were pulling out but the company told us they arent giving up yet. They have not poured water on the assumptions at all. The most critical assumption is is the gas there, is it good quality and is it producible . We would answer that yes, yes and yes. And then it is up to policymakers about how quickly they want to exploit that resource. Our argument consistently is we should develop our own gas rather than depend on importers. Which is difficult to argue against. Well, analysts think this is the beginning of the end for fracking. They say regulation makes it too tough here, public support is too low and itjust isnt economically viable. Thats because Renewable Energy sources are becoming cheaper to produce and our Climate Change targets are now so tough that the emissions from fracking would have to be offset thats an extra charge. The government says it welcomes the report and will wait for more information before deciding the future of fracking in this country. So watch this space. Interesting thing to talk about. You have been quite vocal on fracking in the past. Something else that touches hearts and minds of viewers is when we follow the families of children with special Educational Needs. As they fight for access to better care and support. This morning, a long awaited report by a group of mps, concludes many parents face a titanic struggle to get the right help for their child. Brea kfasts Jayne Mccubbin is at a special school in manchester for us now. I know you follow this very closely for a month on month in this programme. Good morning to you. Good morning. We are in manchester, not farfrom morning. We are in manchester, not far from where you are this morning and we have followed this story closely. We took some parents and teachers down for the very first face to face contact with the chair of the select committee report. Have a look around, very quiet this morning. You can see it looks a little different to normal classrooms. There is very little on the walls. About 50 of the children here have autism. What isnt lacking in impact is absolutely this report from robert health and the chair of the Committee Says that students face, parents face a titanic struggle trying to get the right support for their children. He doesnt pull any punches in this report. He absolutely says this isnt wrong and it needs to change. We will be talking about this over the morning and we will have full details about what is in the report and recommendations in it. No time for the news, the travel and the weather wherever you are waking up this morning. Good morning from bbc london, im sonya jessup. From today, some londoners will be able to get up to £2,000 if they scrap their older, more polluting cars as part of attempts to clean up the capitals toxic air. The mayors launched a £25 million fund thats open to disabled drivers and those on lower incomes. Londons ultra low emission zone is due to be expanded from 2021 as far as the north and south circular roads. Campaigners against the controversial redevelopment of the Shopping Centre at elephant and castle have taken their challenge to the high court. The judicial review has been sought by local people and traders who want more social housing and a better deal for Shopping Centre traders. Southwark council insists the plans are a vast improvement for the area. Now patients at hospitals across the capital have been getting a bedside visit from this guy hes a therapy cat. His name is mr london meow and here he is making one of his rounds to the Older Persons ward at the royal london in whitechapel. Hes part of the team at the charity pets as therapy which aims to support recovery by bringing animals to hospitals, hospices and care homes. He has his way with people. So hes very charming. He is very generous. He is very bubbly and fun. I think he has a sense to be around someone, if that someone needs a little bit of attention or care. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. The fire has affected southern trains. No service between Clapham Junction and Milton Keynes central. Moving onto the roads. Usual rush hour delays heading northbound. Lets take a look at the weather then heres kate kinsella. Good morning. It is a chilly start out there this morning and once again there is a little bit of mist and fog to contend with. It will gradually lift though only to be replaced with cloud and some outbreaks of rain. So, for some, a bright start this morning ahead of the cloud. As that mist and fog lift, as i said, the cloud will arrive and with it we will get some rain as well. Some heaviers burst mixed in there through the afternoon, especially. Temperatures today a little bit cooler then yesterday at 15 celsius. We will still have some rain into this evening but gradually it will start to clear. It is going to remain rather cloudy, though, the minimum temperature warmer than last night or milder than last night, between 9 11 celsius. So, a cloudy start tomorrow. We will see some rain through the day but slowly it will clear away east. It is a cold front, so behind it overnight thursday into friday, a clear affair. A dry start friday, to the west you might get a bit of rain in the afternoon. Then rain overnight into the first part of the weekend. A rather wet day for saturday. Drier, brighter and cooler for sunday. That is it for now. I will be back in halfan that is it for now. I will be back in half an error. Goodbye. Good morning and welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. Our headlines today. Borisjohnsons brexit deal is put on pause as he fails to get backing from mps for a timetable to discuss it. The eu must now make up their minds over how to answer parliaments request for a delay. The eu says it is now considering an extension to the october 31s brexit deadline. Number ten makes it clear that would lead to an election to fix the stalemate. A high level warning that a generation of children with special Educational Needs are being let down by the reforms that were supposed to help them. Fracking underfire. A damning new report warns the uks shale gas industry has been too slow and too costly to bring any real benefits. Ill look at the future forfracking in the uk. Its a five star night for the english clubs in the Champions League as harry kane revives tottenhams qualification hopes, Raheem Sterling scores a hat trick as Manchester City beat atalanta. Back in the public eye meghan makes herfirst appearance since revealing shes struggling with media attention. Good morning. Watch out for some fog across southern counties this morning. A lot of dry weather today with rain coming into the south east later with rain across western scotla nd later with rain across western scotland and Northern Ireland. More details in 15 minutes. Its wednesday, 23rd october. Our top story. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill, which is the main brexit legislation, by a majority of 30. It was the first time mps had backed a brexit deal. But the government lost the second vote on the parliamentary timetable some mps believed three days just wasnt enough time to debate the details. Borisjohnson then told the commons that the bill would be paused, whilst the eu said it will approve an extention so does this all pave the way for a general election before the end of the year . Heres our Political Correspondent, jonathan blake. Last night, mps had their say on borisjohnsons brexit deal. Their verdict . Yes and no. The ayes have it, the ayes have. The noes have it, the noes have it. Mps gave their backing to the deal as it stands but voted against the governments timetable for its passage through parliament. I must express my disappointment that the house has again voted for delay, rather than a timetable that would have guaranteed the uk leaves on october 31st with a deal. And we now face further uncertainty and the eu must now make up their minds over how to answer parliaments request for a delay. Tonight, the house has refused to be bounced into debating a hugely significant piece of legislation in just two days with barely any notice and an analysis of the Economic Impact of this bill. The Prime Minister is the author of his own misfortune. With little chance now of mps passing the brexit bill by the deadline of october 31st, the Prime Minister has pressed the pause button until the eu decides on the extension he was forced to ask for. The president of the European Council said he would recommend eu leaders should grant a delay. If that happens, a downing street source said the only way to move on would be with a general election. And, once an extension to brexit is secured, opposition parties are poised to back going to the polls. Watch closely for the next move. Jonathan blake, bbc news, westminster. We are watching, arent we . Naga and we are trying to figure out whats going to happen next because so many things have and havent been passed and we are not the people to do it but we have the people to do it. In a moment well get the latest from our reporter adam fleming in strasboug, but first, lets talk to our Political Correspondent in westminster, helen catt. It is very difficult to try to figure out what is next on a timetable, and i feel like figure out what is next on a timetable, and ifeel like this is what has doing, writing down dates and times when things are happening. Yes and it depends on other things of this idea of pushing for a general election will depend on what the eu offers by way of extension. If they say, yes, you can delay the brexit data until the 31st of january, as was requested in a Letter Parliament made borisjohnson send, that is when borisjohnson has said he would push for a general election. Worth saying, though, he cant call one unilaterally. Under the fixed term parliaments act, youll have to pass a vote in parliament. The most standard way is to get a two thirds majority, two thirds of mps voting to trigger an election. In normal times it wouldnt be a problem to get the opposition on site to say we will boot you out and have an election but borisjohnson has tried this twice in the last couple of months and failed because opposition parties have consistently said they wont vote to go to the polls until a new deal brexit is off the table. So, untilan a new deal brexit is off the table. So, until an extension is secured they wont go for it. All right, thank you very much. Dan lets go to adam fleming who was in strasbourg this morning. Anyone who saw the ten oclock news last night would have seen you sprinting after Michel Barnier. Not sure you got anything out of him but weve had something from donald tusk. Yes, we got the tweet from donald tusk which we were not expecting because we thought he would take longer to see how the dust settled at westminster. The first thing to say, though, is the first thing to say, though, is the first thing to say, though, is the first thing that happened last night was there was a majority of mps in favour of the legislation that would put the brexit deal into british law or at least the first stage of that process , or at least the first stage of that process, and hear the word everyone used was finally. The second thing that happened was the timetable got a bit mucked up. That means the eu has to consider this idea of an extension. There is probably going to bea extension. There is probably going to be a meeting of ambassadors from the 27 eu countries in brussels this afternoon where they will have their first serious conversation about it. On the table as the request from the uk to extend to the 31st of january next year so thatll be the basis for the discussion. Then the question will be do all the 27 countries agree with that . Is that too long or too short . And do they end up with a different date . We are also looking at an idea of a flexible extension which would mean there is an end date but also the option for the uk to come out much earlier if they can get the deal through quicker. Ok. So, actually, from what youre saying, relief at the step forward but, then, understanding it ill take some time from this point on . Yes, on the pod cast, katia was calling it a paso doble, one step forward and two steps to the side. Ask mike bushell im not sure hes done the paso doble yet so we look forward to that thatll be an experience, wont it . We will spend the whole morning trying to explain what next, and what politicians want next. Dan over the next hour and a bit we have three politicians on the way for you and we are putting the questions to various sides of the house to see, to take a temperature on where we are this morning. We know we say significant but last night there has been agreement about the bill, about putting that into law eventually. So where do we go from here . Will there be a general election on the horizon . Naga most likely. They say the fifth of the 13th. Not boxing day. You cant have a general election on boxing day, surely. It is 7 09am. Another bit of news to bring you. A generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day, according to a report from mps. The Education Select Committee has strongly criticised reforms brought in five years ago in england that were designed to improve support for families. Our education correspondent, frankie mccamley, reports. If i hadnt found the group here i wouldnt have known where to start. Whether its just a cup of tea, a chance to meet others in a similar situation or an offer of legal advice, this group of parents, who all have children with special Educational Needs, get together every week. How are you coping . I dont, most days. I get up and i get dressed in the hope that at least one of them might say, i want to go to school today, mum but it never happens. But you just keep going. We found we were discharged from the Speech Therapy Services Three times i think it was at least by the time he had finished reception. And he is 15 now and he is still selectively mute. Ive got a 13 year old with autism. Couldnt get any social care assessment for him. Just had one but that has been three years of asking. Itsjust culture and peoples attitudes towards children with disabilities and its a real shame. Following an 18 month inquiry, the Education Select Committee says the system is not working. Its no good just throwing more money at the system or literally using like a plaster or elastoplast to solve individual problems as they may arise. The government needs to give it a strong direction, needs to give it much more guidance to councils to see this as a major area of social injustice in our country. It is shameful and its wrong. Councils that run the services say they have reached a Tipping Point with funding not keeping up with demand. The government says it is investing more and want the system to work for every child. But, for these parents, like thousands across the country, they just want their children to have the best possible chance in life and get the support they were promised. Frankie mccamley, bbc news. Fracking in the uk has progressed far more slowly than originally expected and public support is waning, according to a report by the National Audit office. It says fracking a controversial method of drilling the earth for shale gas has so far cost the tax payer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs. The industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy. The duchess of sussex has made her first public appearance since revealing she and prince harry are struggling with media attention. Meghan was attending a Charity Event at the Royal Albert Hall. Last week, in an interview on itv, she described her past year as a member of the royal family as hard and admitted she was not prepared for the intensity of the tabloid interest. It is 7 12am, this is breakfast from the bbc. We said we would try to ta ke the bbc. We said we would try to take the temperature on a significant day in parliament, and what happened last night, enough mps got behind Boris Johnsons what happened last night, enough mps got behind borisjohnsons eu withdrawal bill which is trying to turn his brexit deal into law eventually. Naga but they rejected the timetable in which to debate all of its intricate details, 110 pages. Dan away to your old home. Naga what happens next . Lets find out what the justice secretary things. Good morning to you. Ok, what next . We made a significant step forward and parliament with a majority of 30 voted for a Withdrawal Agreement, the first time that has happened and we were told we couldnt renegotiate, we were told this would never happen but it is Good Progress but it is undeniably frustrating we couldnt get the timetable for the bill through in order to get on with this to secure brexit by the 31st. So, parliament has made this decision and parliament has asked for an extension from the eu. So we are waiting to see what other eu leaders say about the situation. But we want to crack on. And if we cant crack on, then regrettably it seems a general election is the only way to sort this impasse out. However cold and inhospitable the next month might be. One is the general election going to take place because thatis election going to take place because that is up to parliament because the system requires a two thirds vote of parliament to have an election. So it is in parliaments hands. They had a golden opportunity to crack on, Good Progress in getting the principle agreed, but regrettably no progress in actually allowing us to get on with the. So when would the election be . Because you need a minimum five week timetable, dont you . We could have won in late november, early december, we would vote on that but the pm rightly said last night the bill was paused. There are conversations with other european leaders but the message is clear. As a government we want to get on with this. An election seems to be the only way to resolve it. I dont think that is necessary if parliament actually said, you know what, we need to get on with this now. And i am open, as are other ministers, to listening to colleagues, to see whether we can have a way forward. It is for parliament now to step up to the plate and help us resolve this position. Ok, well, parliament has voted that the 110 page document cannot be examined in detail and with scrutiny with sufficient scrutiny in three days. What im hearing from you, weve been talking about a general election, it seems like borisjohnson about a general election, it seems like Boris Johnson has about a general election, it seems like borisjohnson has given up or accepted the uk wont be leaving the eu in october the 31st. |j accepted the uk wont be leaving the eu in october the 31st. I dont think hes given up. In fact he hasnt given up at any stage, he has proved his doubters wrong and got a deal and now got a vote for the first time, so he isnt giving up. When i spoke to Parliament Last night, it was in the spirit of seeking compromise and support from across the house. I think the public would expect us not to give up, actually, and to crack on and Work Together in a way that can resolve this by the 31st. Last night definitely made it more difficult because, as you say, we need to scrutinise the bill. A lot of the material in the bill and the Withdrawal Agreement has been around for months and it has had scrutiny and discussion. What we would be looking at is the new bits, the new future relationship document and the amended Northern Irish protocol so a lot of this is already out in the Public Domain and is known about, so ididnt Public Domain and is known about, so i didnt see any problem with us getting on with it, frankly. I didnt see any problem with us getting on with it, franklylj i didnt see any problem with us getting on with it, frankly. I have heard this that a lot of this has been out there already. How many pages . Im assuming youve looked at this document, thats correct, yes . Of course. It is 110 pages so how many pages are new . Lets clear this up many pages are new . Lets clear this up right now. And here conservative say camino, there is only a little bit that is new, it can be done in three days, how many pages i knew . Im happy to do that because although the bill has been published for the first time and a lot of mps havent seen it, what it deals with, and this is something that hasnt changed in our approach because we published a white paper about this last year, is the way which we download the agreement into british law. The new bits relate to the changed Northern Irish protocol and the way in which that operates, plus some additional amendments that was a result of the parliamentary debates we had earlier in the year about the involvement of parliament in scrutinising and setting a mandate for future relations. In scrutinising and setting a mandate forfuture relations. So, a lot of this is not new. Some of it is, i accept, lot of this is not new. Some of it is, iaccept, which lot of this is not new. Some of it is, i accept, which is why we need to scrutinise it, but the Withdrawal Agreement itself, we talked about the 585 pages, the bulk of that remained as it was from the spring, and, therefore, with respect to my colleagues, this is not a terrible surprise to them in terms of what we would be discussing. Ok, you havent told me how many pages are new but thats ok. I cannot remember off the top of my head. Probably about 20 could be new but a lot of it is well trodden ground. There is no deal off the table . I think no deal is a real possibility because the 31st of october is a date that you selected as their date for the end of article 50. We havent heard what their decision is as to extension or otherwise so it is still could happen. The way to definitely put no deal off the table would have been to vote for no deal but also for the motion so what has happened is the uncertainty continues and that isnt good for any of us. Isnt the Prime Minister obliged to not have no deal by october 31 . Is the promised obliged to not accept no deal . That is the benn act, isnt it . In fact, he is complied with that by the letter being sent and the eu now considering it. If the eu offer an extension, the benn act compels the Prime Minister to accept that. We are in the middle of that process, we havent heard what the eus response is. They would have looked last night and seen that parliament has passed something positive but they will think carefully about the timescale and what is realisable. What are the benn act has done is give the initiative to our European Partners and we need to hear from them as to what they think the best way forward could be. Just a secretary, Robert Buckland, thank you forjoining us. Speak to make sure we have a brexit break and catch up with carol . Good morning, what have you got for us . I have a bit of everything in this forecast. First of all, beautiful weather watcher pictures sent in from elstree in hertfordshire. A little bit of mist, cloud and brightness and if we added rain into that scenario, we have the Weather Forecast spot on for today. It is a chilly start across england and wales, not as chilly across scotland and Northern Ireland. A little bit more cloud with these weather fronts coming in, introducing some rain. This cloud will also produce some showery outbreaks of rain at first of all we have to get rid of some low cloud and apache mist and fog and that is across parts of south wales and also southern england so if youre travelling, take extra care. That will lift and we will see some brighter skies develop but dont forget our weather front coming in from the south east moves into the direction of east wales and the midlands and it could produce some showery outbreaks of rain almost anywhere in this area. Meanwhile, our different coming in across Northern Ireland in western scotla nd across Northern Ireland in western scotland will also oh introduce some rain and in the north west. Away from all these areas, and those fronts, something drier and brighter winds especially in the north west. Away from all these areas, and those fronts, something drier and brighter north and pepped up, the rain turns heavy and the front coming in across scotla nd heavy and the front coming in across scotland and Northern Ireland sinks south. In skies developing. Temperatures between 11 15. Through this evening and overnight, the front in the south east moves further north and peps up, the rain turns heavy and the front coming in across scotland and Northern Ireland sinks south. In between where we brea ks sinks south. In between where we breaks and clearance in the skies we could see some patchy mist in fog for tomorrow morning. We and bump it off onto the near continent and then low pressure up to the north west, a tight squeeze in the isobars so we will see plentiful showers here, some merging giving longer spells of rain, heavy, thundery and windy, per ticket across the far north of scotland. Of these things in here are our two friends. This cold front will effectively merge with this one and bump it off onto the near continent and then low pressure up to the north west, a tight squeeze in the isobars so we will see plentiful showers here, some merging giving longer spells of rain, heavy, thundery and windy, particularly across the far north of shall meet will tell you where we might see some snow on Higher Ground so we have this front coming in from the south west introducing some rain, this one in the north bringing in some showery a fair bit of sunshine around, dry weather when the mist in fog lifts and you can see where the weather friends push across the south east taking the rain with them. Probably not clearing the far south east until evening time. So, then what we haveis until evening time. So, then what we have is a battle between the cold airand milderaircoming have is a battle between the cold air and milder air coming up from the south. And where the two shall meet will tell you where we might see some snow on Higher Ground so we have this front coming in from the south west introducing some rain, this one in the north bringing in some showery outbreaks of rain and strong windy dry stud, this rain piles in from the south west, bumps into the cold air and we are likely to see snow in and exposure. After dry stud, this rain piles in from the south west, bumps into the cold airand we are the south west, bumps into the cold air and we are likely to see snow in areas, the pennines and it could be disruptive. We will have strong winds across the south needs. The Education Select Committee says an entire generation of children is being let down so heres the important question, what can be done to help . Our very own reporter is in a special school in parents are trying to get the right help and support for their children, those with special Educational Needs. The Education Select Committee says an entire generation of children is being let down so heres the important question, what can be done to help . Our very own reporter is in a special school in atjust this. Good morning, jayne good morning to you and good morning, everybody look at this as if by magic the classroom oh, we have set off a shot of get a shot magic of live tv. We this is the magic of live tv. We have we are talking about, the 18 months in the making report, alex. Panic over, as you are, this is what we are talking about, the 18 months in the making report, one of the biggest select Committee Inquiry is ever findings biggest select Committee Inquiry is everfindings are biggest select Committee Inquiry is ever findings are amongst the worst 700 submissions of evidence but one charity says the findings are amongst the worst how are you this. Children are being failed. I want to introduce georgina. Good morning to you. How are you what do you want to do when you leave the special im fine. What are you doing . Making a sentence. Tell me, what do you want to do when you paula, tell us, when you had the struggle to get your child into this school, what were your aspirations for paula, tell us, when you had the struggle to get your child into this school, what were your aspirations child. I wanted her to get the job like any other child and have the same opportunities as every school. How do you feel today with the right support . Shes getting the she needs and she come and meet the executive head of the school. You have read the report and you know how important this is. What do bad outcomes look like . L lifetime of mist opportunities. Each stage of their life has a dearth of opportunity and it is our role to make sure they have that opportunity. That is why this report says there are no more requirements for any more reports, absolutely not. Now is the time, it says, for the government to act. The governments response is to say we are going to have another review into special Educational Needs and disabilities. This is the statement they have given to us. No child should be held back from reaching their potential and that is why we have announced £780 million increase for council hi needs. Through our review, that has been announced within the last month, we are focused on making sure they work for i know there will be huge disappointment out there from the pa rents disappointment out there from the parents who get in touch with us all the time to tell us their experiences, what has come out of this is really another review. We will have more on this inquiry a little bit later and more from you guys. Thank you for being brilliant, back to you. Naga thank you very much. Very well behaved classroom. Dan always. Never saw the headmaster on any occasion still to come and breakfast. Sir David Attenboroughs cameraman will be here. That isnt him by the way to tell us about forming these magnificent creatures and a very personal sacrifice he made to realise his dream in working in art working in antarctica. Naga did you see that . Dan that is a word for that, doing that with your neck. Oh dear. Someone sent me a message, ive gone down a cul de sac, and i dont know the way out. I know the way out news, travel and weather good morning from bbc london, im sonja jessup. From today, some londoners will be able to get up to £2,000 if they scrap their older, more polluting cars as part of attempts to clean up the capitals toxic air. The mayors launched a £25 million fund thats open to disabled drivers and those on lower incomes. Londons ultra low emission zone is due to be expanded from 2021 as far as the north and south circular roads. Campaigners against the controversial redevelopment of the Shopping Centre at elephant and castle have taken their challenge to the high court. The judicial review has been sought by local people and traders who want more social housing and a better deal for Shopping Centre traders. Southwark council insists the plans are a vast improvement for the area. Now patients at hospitals across the capital have been getting a bedside visit from this guy hes a therapy cat. His name is mr london meow and here he is making one of his rounds at the royal london in whitechapel. Hes part of the team at the charity pets as therapy which aims to support recovery by bringing animals to hospitals, hospices and care homes. He has his way with people. So hes very charming. He is very generous. He is very bubbly and fun. I think he has a sense to be around someone, if that someone needs a little bit of attention or care. Thejubliee line has minor delays due to some faults with the trains this morning and theres no london overg round running between Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction after a fire next to the Railway Tracks at olympia. Its also affected southern trains. Theres no service between Clapham Junction and Milton Keynes central this is how it looks at the blackwall tunnel, usual rush hour delays there heading northbound and the a3 west hill is still closed between tibbets corner and upper richmond road for works. Lets take a look at the weather then heres kate kinsella. Good morning. It is a chilly start out there this morning and once again there is a little bit of mist and fog to contend with. It will gradually lift though only to be replaced with cloud and some outbreaks of rain. So, for some, a bright start this morning ahead of the cloud. As that mist and fog lift, as i said, the cloud will arrive and with it we will get some rain as well. Some heavier bursts mixed in there through the afternoon, especially. Temperatures today a little bit cooler then yesterday at 15 celsius. We will still have some rain into this evening but gradually it will start to clear. It is going to remain rather cloudy, though, the minimum temperature warmer than last night or milder than last night, between 9 11 celsius. So, a cloudy start tomorrow. We will see some rain through the day but slowly it will clear away east. It is a cold front, so behind it overnight thursday into friday, a clear affair. A dry start friday, to the west you might get a bit of rain in the afternoon. Then rain overnight into the first part of the weekend. A rather wet day for saturday. Drier, brighter and cooler for sunday. Thats it for now ill be back in around half an hour. Now its back to dan and naga. Good morning, welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. Heres a summary of this mornings main stories from bbc news. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill. However, the Prime Ministers plans to fast track the legislation through the commons, in time for the uk to leave by the end of the month, were rejected. In the last few minutes, thejustice secretary said a general election is the way forward. We are waiting to hear what other eu leaders say about the situation but we want to crack on. If we cannot crack on then reg retta bly on. If we cannot crack on then regrettably it does seem that the general election is the way to sort this and inhospitable the next month may be. A generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day, according to a report from mps. The Education Select Committee has strongly criticised reforms brought in five years ago in england that were designed to improve support for families. The government says it is boosting funding for local authorities in order to help those with the most complex needs. Fracking in the uk has progressed far more slowly than originally expected and public support is waning, according to a report by the National Audit office. It says fracking a controversial method of drilling the earth for shale gas has so far cost the tax payer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs. The industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy. The duchess of sussex has made her first public appearance since revealing she and prince harry are struggling with media attention. Meghan was attending a Charity Event at the Royal Albert Hall. Last week, in an interview on itv, she described her past year as a member of the royal family as hard and admitted she was not prepared for the intensity of the tabloid interest. Do you want a bit more lighthouse action . Please. Weve all seen pictures of houses at risk of toppling into the sea because of coastal erosion. Well, take a look at this. A 120 year Old Lighthouse in denmark has just been successfully moved away from the edge of a sandy cliff. Engineers managed to lift it up onto two tracks and slide it about 70 metres at the dizzying speed of up to eight metres per hour. It took six hours, and thousands of people came to watch. Its thought the move will ensure its future for at least another two decades. We have asked for more on this. You wa nt we have asked for more on this. You want at a time lapse. There is one on social media. Maybe we can get that. And i want to know about the foundations, about how far they had to dig down and slide it across. I assume the belt some kind of concrete base on the other end to set it on. That is huge speculation. I essentially made that up but i hope that is ok. It is an educated guess. An educated guess from. Your structural engineering. You hand it around the house, john . No. I know my limitations. The patio, that would be a step too far for me. Shelves . Yes, basic stuff around the house is fine. I have tiled bathroom, you know. I could even live with it. In the house before. Well done thanks. Not as impressive as these performances. No, two of englands best showing their best last night. Harry kane and Raheem Sterling. Raheem sterling scoring a hat trick for Manchester City. All ina hat trick for Manchester City. All in a days work. They make it look so easy, dont they, as they always do. Two brilliant performances from harry kane and Raheem Sterling on what was a five star night for the english sides in the Champions League. Tottenham havent been able to say that too many times this season. As adam wild reports amidst the light show at tottenham a desperate need to brighten the gloom. Last years run to the finals seemingly a dimming memory. Fans keen to capture those good times once more. Against Red Star Belgrade it didnt take too long. Harry kane a constant amongst the inconsistent this season, his header relieving the pressure. Moments later Heung Min Son added another, this suddenly more like the spurs the supporters expected. Confidence returning off and on the field, son scored the third before half time. They game all but, the question now by how many . Erik lamela with a fourth before harry kane finished what he had started. 5 0 to spurs, their biggest ever Champions League victory. That gloom in those spirits lifted at spurs. We need to build that confidence, of course. But we need to go step by step, being solid again. For Manchester City, a comfortable night too although they did have to come from behind against italian side atalanta, but once Sergio Aguero had put them in charge, the brilliance of Raheem Sterling did the rest. A second half hat trick for the england star, a spectacular sparkling performance that not even the sending off of phil foden could spoil. 5 1 to city on another sterling night in europe. Adam wilde, bbc news. Sol campbell in back in football, but has a huge task on his hands if hes to keep southend in league one. He managed to steer macclesfield to safety in his previousjob, but watched southend who are second from bottom, lose 7 1 last night. He has brought in andy cole, the former newcastle and Manchester United striker as attack coach. You hope the girls will know follow. The gold mine goals. Belgian Paralympian Marieke vervoort, the 100m champion from the 2012 london games has died by euthanasia at the age of 40. She had an incurable muscular condition and had said after the rio games three years ago, she would consider euthanasia if her sufferng worened. Despite falling sick aged 14 vervoort pursued a sporting life with passion, playing wheelchair basketball, swimming and racing in triathlons. A big weekend ahead of the Rugby World Cup this weekend. The welsh squad met Prince Charles at training in tokyo this morning. The team reached the semi finals after just scraping past france last weekend, but lost to sundays opponents in the quarterfinals of the last world cup. Eddiejomnes says all the presures on new zealand ahead of their world cup semi final on saturday, wales play south africa a day later in yokohama. And is this the most ridiculous fine youve ever come across . We were saying we were a little bit confused by it. Who are we talking about . Nfl player Odell Beckham jr who plays for the Cleveland Browns forced to cough up over 14,000 because his pants failed to cover the knee area during a game. Are they technically shorts, though . Pa nts are they technically shorts, though . Pants if you are in the states. Gosh, you are. It has cost them 14,000. A little bit extreme. I am surprised they are paying that closer attention. Did he not get fined earlier in the season for wearing a watch that was worth 200,000 ina wearing a watch that was worth 200,000 in a game. And he was wearing a visor that was too dark. He is probably someone who likes to push the boundaries a little bit, what he wears and what he does on the field. And of course they are paying close attention to what he is up paying close attention to what he is up to. He signed like a huge deal at 95 million over five seasons i think. 14 grand days, you know, pocket money isnt it. It is the principle of it. The rules are the rules. We had an australian accent dot mac accident i did not mean that. We had an American Wine in this one. What are we going to get at eight oclock. Welsh . When it comes to laying a patio, i know my limits. John, thank you very much. From the controversy over shorts, we have the controversy over brexit. Lets keep it going. Its incredibly controversial but a new report today is casting doubt on the benefits of fracking. Bens with us. Weve heard the pros and cons of fracking for years. Supporters, including the government say its the solution to our energy needs, by reducing our reliance on imported gas and to help cut our bills. Critics say its too expensive, bad for the environment and just too slow. Remember fracking, or hydraulic fracturing to give it the proper name, involves drilling down and then sideways into shale rock. The British Geological survey estimates there are 1,300 trillion cubic feet of shale Gas Resources in northern england. The drill is trying to reach desposits of natural gas trapped in rock. Once the well has been drilled, water, chemicals and sand are pumped in at High Pressure to fracture the rock and expand it. That releases the gas which is then pumped out of the well. It can then be collected and used to heat homes or given to power stations to convert to electricity. Sounds fine but progress has been very slow. Todays report says that the government expected 20 fracked wells by mid 2020 butjust three have been drilled so far and there are no more in development. In scotland it is still banned. The cost of those three wells . £32. 7 million. It isa it is a lot of money. That includes a big chunk spent on policing costs to secure these sites. They are very controversial and there have been lots of protests about the impact on the environment and public health. In fact, the report says opposition to fracking has gone up from 21 in 2013 to 40 today. The report is pretty damning. It says the government hasnt analysed the costs and benefits, hasnt developed the right technology and hasnt worked out a plan for cleaning up after the fracking. A pretty damning report. That wasnt all. This is the author of the report. The economic benefits of fracking are uncertain. The government does not know how much could be extracted from england. The government believes it could have a Significant Impact on prices. If it were to take off in the uk it would not be significant enough to change that much. What have Fracking Companies said to us . Well, there isjust one major player in the uk. Cuadrilla. They have been forced to suspend operations in lancashire because of an earthquake in august 2. 9 on the richter scale. There had been reports they were pulling out but the company told us they arent giving up yet. Ido i do not think they have poured water on the assumptions at all. They have to be proved. The most critical is the gas there, is it good quality and exec it producible . We would answer that yes, yes and yes. Then they question is how quickly do they want to exploit and produce that resource. Our argument consistently as we should develop our own gas rather than rely on imports. Quadrille are saying they will not give up. Something that regulation is too tough. Well, analysts think this is the beginning of the end for fracking. They say regulation makes it too tough here, public support is too low and itjust isnt economically viable. Thats because Renewable Energy sources are becoming cheaper to produce and our Climate Change targets are now so tough that the emissions from fracking would have to be offset thats an extra charge. The government says it welcomes the report and will wait for more information before deciding the future of fracking in this country. Iam i am trying to imagine. I listen carefully to what bens says. 1300 trillion cubic feet. I cannot imagine. How many of me is what i normally get. I will organise. It is quarter to eight. Good morning. Who are you saying good morning to . To our lovely viewers. And to carol. We do have viewers. I was saying good morning to the viewers. Good morning, carol. We have a mixed bag as well. Look at this pic from one of our weather watchers. Today there will be some sunshine in the forecast and we have some fog to start with in southern parts of england and south wales, that will slowly lift. With the weather fronts coming in from the north and west, more rain coming in. Introducing showery rain later. Look it is introducing showery rain later. Look it is what is happening around the western material. Here we have had torrential rain. In the last 204i had torrential rain. In the last 204 hours, 355 thousand lightning strikes. Not unusual for this time of year, you can see the damage. It is not then the best time to go on holiday. Closer to home is what we haveis holiday. Closer to home is what we have is the patchy mist and fog. It will lift and then there is dry weather to start the day and brighter sunny skies. The weather front approaching from the south east will bring outbreaks of rain and are to weather fronts in the north and west will introduce train and gusty winds around them. In the sunshine we are looking at temperatures of 11 to 15 degrees. The weather front in the north west sinks further south and where we have got clear skies and between thatis have got clear skies and between that is where we are likely to see some patchy mist and fog. Towns and cities falling around eight and 11 or 12. Cities falling around eight and 11 or12. In cities falling around eight and 11 or 12. In rural areas temperatures will be a little lower. Tomorrow are two weather fronts head south, the cold front bumping the 11 out of the way. Look at the squeeze on the isobars, it is going to be windy. Gusts of wind with exposure in the west of scotland as much as 60 mph and they will merge to give heavier downpours which could turn thundery. Meanwhile, other weather front, the two setting south eastwards will ta ke two setting south eastwards will take the rain to the south east, probably not clearing until the evening. In between some bright spells and sunshine and a few showers. As we move from thursday into friday we are watching a clash ofairso we into friday we are watching a clash of air so we have colder air sinking south, milder air heading north and where they meet, on Higher Ground, some of us could see some snow. Here is the weather front ringing in the rain. The positioning of this could be further north or south. After a dry start for many, the rain comes in from the south west, it advances steadily north when, bumps into the cold air. The Southern Uplands, pennines and snow, may be disruptive. Strong gusty winds across southern england and gusty winds across the north of scotland as well. Into the weekend, saturday we have i met Weather Met Office weather warning about. There is something a wee bit quieter on sunday. Thank you carol. Always nice to have you on the programme. Nice to have you on the programme. Nice to be here. Borisjohnsons brexit deal is, for now, on hold, after mps rejected his plan to fast track it through parliament. Some mps believed the proposed three day timetable was not enough to debate all of the details. Lets speak now to the shadow justice secretary, Richard Burgon who joins us from westminster. Good morning to you. Thanks for joining us on the programme. How did you vote yesterday . I voted against the tories rotten deal. Bad for workers rights and so many other things and then i voted to say that it was ridiculous that parliament was only going to get a couple of days to scrutinise this very important piece of legislation. Just as an example, the wild animals in the circus as well were given 11 days to discuss that. A very important bill. To be told we would be given a couple of days to deal with this complex exit legislation was to be frank l salt to democracy. Further time is needed to be agreed between the opposition and government to deal with this in a sensible way. How many days do you think you need . I think it can be donein think you need . I think it can be done ina think you need . I think it can be done in a matter of weeks. It is not up done in a matter of weeks. It is not up to me to decide. It does not need to be an inordinate amount of time. But a couple of days is ridiculous. What do you say, three weeks . What is enough . That is now chief whip of the government and the chief of the labour party to negotiate and agree something between them. What do you think . I think the delays need to be for a long length of time but what i would say is theres one of my collea g u es would say is theres one of my colleagues made this point yesterday, one of the mp5. He said he was reminded yesterday that it took longer to decide which so far took longer to decide which so far to buy then the government intended to buy then the government intended to give us to decide weather or not to give us to decide weather or not to back their brexit bell or amend it are the rest of it. It is not sensible, it is ridiculous. We cannot be playing these cheap games. It needs to be looked at reasonably. What is reasonable, three weeks . Lets be specific, we want to hear some absolute numbers. How many days do you need to debate this bill, 110 pages . I do not think that people out there that may concern this morning is whether we need three weeks or 3. 5 weeks or seven days or 20 days. What people are concerned about is the danger to the economy, the danger to workers rights and the danger to workers rights and the fact that brexit is dragging on. One of the reasons why it is dragging on is because the government has put a stop on the progression of the bill. The second reading was passed in parliament. They voted against it but the government isnt proceeding with it at the moment, they could be. It is the government behaving in a strange way not the other political parties. But we need to get this sorted and it is not just but we need to get this sorted and it is notjust brexit there needs to be sorted, it is the whole nine yea rs of be sorted, it is the whole nine years of the crises created by the tories, housing, homelessness, austerity and that is why we need a general election as well. Lets move on to the general election as well. When would you like to see that happen and if it does, the bigger issue of course with brexit as does that mean that no deal remains off the table . If the eu responds by agreeing an extension of a number of months that means that Boris Johnson, in that time, cannot push as out through an ordeal brexit. Given that labour will be calling for a general election once and no deal is off the table. It is only a general election that can sort out brexit, because a Labour Government would hold a public vote to sort this out but also sort out all these tory created crises after nine years of austerity. Living standards, Public Services and all the rest of it. We do not want to leave the tories in power at all. The people are no longer suffering due to universal credit, the housing crisis or anything else. If the eu grants a three month extension, donald tusk is discussing an extension, then you would back a general election . wa nt would back a general election . want Boris Johnson and would back a general election . want borisjohnson and his thatcherite mates out of downing street and out of power as soon as possible. I would like to see Boris Johnson gone by christmas. I think the people that i represent and people of this country deserve better than an unelected Prime Minister squatting in number ten after he and his mates run the show for nine years and made things worse for nine years and made things worse for working people across this country. The sooner they are out, the better. Ok, thank you very much. The shadowjustice the better. Ok, thank you very much. The shadow justice secretary. The better. Ok, thank you very much. The shadowjustice secretary. Thank you for talking to as on breakfast. We will also hear from you for talking to as on breakfast. We will also hearfrom ken you for talking to as on breakfast. We will also hear from ken clarke, the father of the house. He will be with us from ten past eight this morning to get his view on what happened last night and what might happened last night and what might happen over the next few days. Lets talk about something other than brexit. And improvement an important subject. Premature babies. Improving survival rates for premature babies means it is now possible to save the lives of some of those born atjust 22 weeks, according to new guidance. Until now the advice has been to give life saving treatment only to those born at 23 weeks or later. Around 3,000 babies are born extremely premature in the uk every year. Katherine da costa explains. Two happy, inquisitive little boys. Jensen and reuben from brighton recently celebrated their first birth days, a major milestone given the risky start to life. Their motherjenny was on holiday in cornwall when she went into early labour. She was airlifted to the closest specialist Neonatal Unit in oxford. There the twins were delivered at 22 weeks and six days, 4. 5 months before their due date, making them the youngest surviving twins in the uk. It was so uncertain at all times. You were scared to leave the unit for five minutes for fear that everything would have changed when you got back. They were so vulnerable and their saturations would change and you would, you would hear the alarms go off and you would worry that if i am not here now, i will get my chance to say goodbye. So it was always on edge, always on edge. Despite progress, the chances of survival are still low. Data from 2016 shows there were nearly 500 babies born at 22 weeks in the uk. Most didnt survive labour or were given Palliative Care to ease their suffering. 43 were given treatment to try to save their lives. Of those, just a third survived. 22 weeks is the earliest a baby can survive because their lungs arent developed enough. The Research Found that for babies born just a week later at 23 weeks, survival rates have doubled in the last decade to 38 . But decisions over care remain complex. One of the things that we make a lot of in this framework is the importance that these decisions have to be made on a case by case basis. These extremely premature babies are all different. And a decision cant be based simply on the babys level of maturity or gestation. It also has to take into account all the other factors that might affect the babys chances. Jenny knows the heartache of losing a baby too soon. Two years before having her twins, her son was stillborn at 23 weeks. She welcomes the guidance that makes parents a central part of Decision Making and praise the care her family received. They treated me with utter compassion and really were fighting as hard as they could and we were alljust hoping and willing that the outcome could be different for us because i think they could tell how desperately we wanted our family. Jenny calls them her miracle boys. She hopes continued improvements in neonatal treatment will mean many more extremely premature babies will go on to defy the odds. Katherine da costa, bbc news, in oxford. It is just it isjust one it is just one of the great noises. See you at eight oclock. Good morning from bbc london, im sonja jessup. From today some londoners will be able to get up to £2000 if they scrap their older, more polluting cars as part of attempts to clean up the capitals toxic air. The mayors launched a £25 million fund thats open to disabled drivers and those on lower incomes. Londons ultra low emission zone which drivers of the most polluting cars pay a daily charge to enter is due to be expanded from 2021. Campaigners against the controversial redevelopment of the elephant and castle Shopping Centre have taken their challenge to the high court. The judicial review has been sought by local people and traders who want more social housing and a better deal for those with businesses in the centre. Southwark council insists the plans are a vast improvement for the area. Now patients at hospitals across the capital have been getting a bedside visit from this guy hes a therapy cat. His name is mr london meow and here he is making one of his rounds at the royal london in whitechapel. Hes part of the team at the charity pets as therapy which aims to support recovery by bringing animals to hospitals, hospices and care homes. He has his way with people. He is very charming. He is very generous. He is very bubbly and fun. I think he has a sense to be around someone if that someone needs a little bit of attention or care. Lets take a look at the travel situation now. Thejubliee line has minor delays due to some faults with the trains this morning and theres no london overg round running between Willesden Junction to Clapham Junction after a fire next to the Railway Tracks at olympia. Its also affected southern trains. Theres no service between Clapham Junction and Milton Keynes central. This is how it looks at the blackwall tunnel, usual rush hour delays there heading northbound and the a3 west hill is still closed between tibbets corner and upper richmond road for works. Lets take a look at the weather then heres kate kinsella. Good morning. It is a chilly start out there this morning and once again there is a little bit of mist and fog to contend with. It will gradually lift though only to be replaced with cloud and some outbreaks of rain. So, for some, a bright start this morning ahead of the cloud. As that mist and fog lift, as i said, the cloud will arrive and with it we will get some rain as well. Some heavier bursts mixed in there through the afternoon, especially. Temperatures today a little bit cooler then yesterday at 15 celsius. We will still have some rain into this evening but gradually it will start to clear. It is going to remain rather cloudy, though, the minimum temperature warmer than last night or milder than last night, between 9 11 celsius. So, a cloudy start tomorrow. We will see some rain through the day but slowly it will clear away east. It is a cold front, so behind it overnight thursday into friday, a clear affair. A dry start friday, to the west you might get a bit of rain in the afternoon. Then rain overnight into the first part of the weekend. A rather wet day for saturday. Drier, brighter and cooler for sunday. Thats it for now ill be back in around half an hour. Site you can check out our website too. A good morning and welcome to breakfast with dan walker and naga munchetty. That ayes to the right hand Boris Johnsons brexit deal is put on pause as he fails to get backing from mps for a timetable to discuss it. It looks the eu says it is now considering an extension to the october 31st brexit deadline number ten says there should be a generalelection. A high level warning that a generation of children with special Educational Needs are being let down by the reforms that were supposed to help them. Fracking underfire. A damning new report warns the uks shale gas industry has been too slow and too costly to bring any real benefits. Ill look at the future forfracking in the uk. Its a five star night for the english clubs in the Champions League. A harry kane double revives tottenhams qualifiying hopes as Raheem Sterling scores a hat trick for Manchester City against atalanta. Back in the public eye meghan makes herfirst appearance since revealing shes struggling with media attention. And mining. Patchy fog to lift bedroom coming into the east and also western scotland and Northern Ireland. I will have more in 15 minutes. Good morning. There is some patchy fog to lift, and rain coming into the east. Good morning. Its wednesday the 23rd of october. Our top story. Downing street has signalled that borisjohnson will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve an extension to brexit of up to three months. Last night, mps voted in favour of the governments Withdrawal Agreement bill. However, the Prime Ministers plans to fast track the legislation through the commons, in time for the uk to leave by the end of the month, were rejected. In the last few minutes, thejustice secretary Robert Buckland told us that a general election is now the most likely way forward. Parliament has made this decision, and parliament has asked for and extension from the eu, well then that we are waiting of course to hear what other eu leaders say about the situation, but we want to crack on, and if we cant crack on then, you know, regrettably, it does seem that a general election is the only way to sort this impasse out, however cold and inhospitable the next month might be. A few minutes ago the shadowjustice secretary confirmed labours position. Labour will be calling for a general election once a no deal is off the table because actually it is only a general election that can, yes, sato brexit, because there would be a credible vote held by the labour party between a credible leave that and also remaining, but also sought out all of these tory created crises. Sort out. In a moment well get the latest from our reporter adam fleming in strasbourg, but first lets talk to our Political Correspondent in westminster, helen catt. Did mining, helen. Lovely to talk to you again. The general election. Good morning, helen. Then has been a thorn in the ether in westminster that a general election has been coming for some time but it might have moved a little closer. So much will depend on what the eu comes back with in terms of that extension, that delay, if you like, to the brexit date, moving it away from being a week tomorrow. That will have a huge impact on whether that general election happens, simply because of the way parliament works. Since 2011 Prime Minister plan i havent been able to call an election, they had to get a vote through parliament under the fixed term parliaments act and they have had to get to thirds of mps to vote to get one. Borisjohnson has tried this twice in recent months and failed because opposition parties would not vote for it because they said they would not do it on telly no deal bag that was off the table. You have heard this morning this does seem to be a position, that there is a position that they may vote for a a no deal brexit was of the table. It will be at what point they decide that its efficiently off the table to vote for an election. Helen, for the moment, thank you. Adam fleming is in strasbourg this morning. Adam, donald tusk said the eu would be granting an extension do we know how far away that could be . Wasnt Michel Barnier who are chasing, hotfooting after, last night . Was it michael barnier. Any night . Was it michael barnier. A ny a nswe rs night . Was it michael barnier. Any answers are much quieter at the moment . There is a bit of clarity in that we know that donald tusk does not want to vote an emergency summit of eu leader the night to hold an extension. They want a written procedure whereby they can talk about it and sign a few documents so there wont be a big dramatic last minute summoning of everyone to brussels which leader the net with a very happy about because they felt they spent quite enough time doing that sort of thing rich leaders we re very that sort of thing rich leaders were very happy about. They are looking at a flexible extension with a maximum m state where you would make it clear that the uk could leave earlier than that end point. The question is what is the end point . The one on the table the is the one in borisjohnsons later he was compelled to send by parliament, the 31st of january next year. Do leaders sign up to that date . Too long for some of them are too short for others . Does the process of discussion they are now embarking on mean the end up with a different end boot. We will only know when they sign a document with the date in black and white, but just a reminder, the date in black and white, but justa reminder, it the date in black and white, but just a reminder, it will be a flexible one, so if the uk can get out earlier it would be allowed to. Are you not going to use the word flextension . I am trying not to because i think it is a really annoying wide but unfortunately a good description of what could be on the table. It is, ithink good description of what could be on the table. It is, i think that word will be in use by next monday. Merrimack yes, i many episodes still to come. Like adam, thanks so much yes, i think many episodes are still to come. Adam, thank you so much. A generation of children with special Educational Needs is being let down day after day, according to a report from mps. The Education Select Committee has strongly criticised reforms brought in five years ago in england that were designed to improve support for families. Our education correspondent, frankie mccamley, reports. Ifi if i hadnt found the group here, i wouldnt have known where to start. Read arejust a cup of wouldnt have known where to start. Read are just a cup of tea, wouldnt have known where to start. Read arejust a cup of tea, a chance to meet others in a similar situation, legal advice, this group of pa rents situation, legal advice, this group of parents who all have children with special Educational Needs get together every week. Furtherjust a cup of tea. How are you coping . dont most days. I get up and get dressed in the hope that one of them might say, im going to go to school today, mum, it never happens but you keep going. We felt we were discharged from the Speech Therapy sessions three times, at least, by the time he had finished reception. He is 15 now. I have a 13yearold with autism. Couldnt get any social care. Just had one but that has been three years of asking. Just culture and peoples attitudes towards children with disabilities and it is a real shame. Following an 18 month inquiry the Education Select Committee says the system is not working. It is no good just throwing my money at the system, are literally using that like a plaster, elastoplast, to solve individual problems as they may arise. The government need to give strong direction, need to get much my guidance to councils to see this as a major area of social injustice in the country. It is shameful and wrong. Council is running the services so they have reached a Tipping Point, with funding keeping up Tipping Point, with funding keeping up with demand councils running the services. The government says it wa nts the services. The government says it wants the system to work for every child, but for these parents, like thousands across the country, they just want their children to have the best possible chance in life and get the support they were promised. Frankie mccamley, bbc news. Fracking in the uk has progressed far more slowly than originally expected and public support is waning, according to a report by the National Audit office which says fracking a controversial method of drilling the earth for shale gas has so far cost the tax payer more than £30 million in court cases, regulation and policing costs. The industry insists it still has huge potential to supply energy. The duchess of sussex has made her first public appearance since revealing she and prince harry are struggling with media attention. Meghan was attending a Charity Event at the Royal Albert Hall. Over the weekend, in an interview on itv, she described her past year as a member of the royal family as hard and admitted she was not prepared for the intensity of the tabloid interest. It is ten past eight. Carroll will have the weather and then well be talking a bit more about fracking, but i return to brexit again carol one of the weather. Carol will have the weather. Eu leaders will be considering whether to grant another brexit delay, after mps rejected borisjohnsons plan to fast track his deal through the commons. Downing street has suggested the Prime Minister will step up his efforts to force a general election, if eu leaders approve a lengthy extension of up to three months. Joining us now from our london newsroom is the independent mp, and father of the house of commons, ken clarke. Good mining. You backed the deal then said no to the time to do . Volley mac yes everybodys commentary on last night has been spun by the strange people Boris Johnson has put in downing street yes, everybodys commentary. Leaving the eu with a deal. This was the first time i had voted for brexit with a deal but it wasnt theresa mays deal this time. It was boriss deal. Still to be looked at in detail. The only thing killed off last night was the idea that it had to be on halloween. It has always been absolutely a mystery to me as to why that day has been given a sacred significance. Its a com pletely sacred significance. Its a completely unimportant date. It was plucked out of the air the last time the eurosceptics caused delay and stop device mac leaving twice earlier this year and it has no significance stopped us leaving. It has no significance. Probably before the end of the year a Withdrawal Agreement will be put in place and we will leave the european union, and then the euros will despair to know that we will start the long period of negotiation is necessary to put the final full time arrangements. All that happened last night was the deal got through, but it is not going to be rushed through by the end of this week because even ministers, and the brexit secretary, was still discovering yesterday what the deal and its present form actually means that, like the brexit secretary discovered as it stands it requires customs documents for everything passing between Northern Ireland and either england or scotland, things like that have to be sorted out. Parliament is not defying the people, itsjust insisting we have something that is sensible, works and is practical. Like my eye so you said you want the debate to continue but you feel it needs longer than three days saw that you said you wanted the debate to continue. How would you push for that Customs Union you are spearheading . I would say it needs a week or two a mac, and i personally cannot understand why people are saying, that is dreadful, december the 10th, impossible october the 3ist the 10th, impossible october the 31st was this holy date on which it had to be done a week or two. The key thing mentioned, do we want Northern Ireland to be in the Customs Union and the Single Market with the continent of europe when england, scotland and wales are in their own Single Market and Customs Union with each other, but have ta riffs union with each other, but have tariffs and customs barriers between ourselves and our personable customers and biggest trading partner in the world on the continent . I dont think anybody voted for that. I think the consequences of that for sectors of the economy, car manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, are quite catastrophic, and i really do not see why the ultra eurosceptics i so against just see why the ultra eurosceptics i so againstjust keeping in the Customs Union. Why are they so against. It is not quite going back to the 19605 with nothing by way of arrangement with the continent, but going back a bit in the way of the old common market. Out of the european union, but British Business has the same access to its most important access to the world so far as flowing through dover and holyhead and over the irish border is concerned. The irish problem cured overnight. The zealot, the fanatics, these anonymous spokesmen in downing street, for then this seems to be symbolic, and i think it is one of the reasons they dont like resuming discussions on the bill but the sooner we do that then we can complete the exit, then we can wait, you know, we got through, then we face a transition period, then we face a transition period, then probably we do need an election, but the election will be ona election, but the election will be on a sensible basis, not hysterical, you know, guy fox lake, people versus you know, guy fox lake, People Versus Parliament campaign, which the campaigning manager is a downing street seem to want guy faulkes like. Street seem to want guy faulkeslike. You talk about the 19605, but the 19705 on a word. With all the things you have seen, can you see any way out of the current state other than a general election . I think it needs a general election pretty soon. In the meantime, lets just stick to parliamentary procedure. It has worked for most of that time and we have had some of idid that time and we have had some of i did some key crises. The government said pilot is broken. No, this bloke in downing street keeps saying that. Even boris has not said that said that parliament is broken. His spokesperson dominates the media every morning with anne state m e nts the media every morning with anne statements coming out of downing street, and he is being given too much scope. With statements. As parliament only saw the day before,. Parliament only saw the day before,. If you give enough time on the floor of the house it will ta ke two on the floor of the house it will take two or three weeks nowadays. The timetable will be agreed, if it isa the timetable will be agreed, if it is a sensible one. You cant discuss the position of ireland, and there isa the position of ireland, and there is a constitutional crisis there, but to give a three errors and say mps can speak on it but there is a three minute time limit three others. This is no way of running a whelk store, let alone a government. Give three days, a week or two, preferably, to discuss it properly. You have a majority. I would say to the government, you are taking us into brexit. I regret that, but i accept it. I want to do it sensibly. I dont want to damage British Business and i dont want to damage the union with Northern Ireland. You must listen. I dont normally side with the Democratic Unionist Party mat, but you must listen to them, modify it, get rid of these customs documents for going over the irish sea, then lets proceed in a grown up way, pass a bill, settle Withdrawal Agreement, then i would certainly agree to an election, but lets have an election with a serious campaign, not this frenzied mps serious campaign, not this frenzied m ps stuff serious campaign, not this frenzied mps stuff about sinister remoaners against the people. Congratulations on the first mention of whelks on bbc breakfast, i think, for many a year you seem to have that same drive and passion. Are you convinced you wont stand again . In the next general election . Common sense, just get out before everybody is gently hinting that you should it irks me deeply that i will be leaving parliament in the middle of the most historic and important crisis. It is fascinating to a political addict like me. I have never seen anything like me. I have never seen anything like this in my life. Day by day, very extraordinary, but you just have to tell yourself, you know, the time has come, get out before everybody expressing you to go, so everybody expressing you to go, so every time i get tempted, every time kind friends tell me to stand, i just tell myself, you know, a bit of common sense, clarke, i think the time has come to stand down, and i announced a year or two go long before this crisis blew up that this would be my last parliament. It is a pity this parliament wont quite have resolved anything, so to the dreaded viewers, i hate to tell you, but i think it will be two or three yea rs before but i think it will be two or three years before the next negotiations i finish that will determine a long term relationship with europe, which i hope well keep trading and economic links as strong, though for the time being we are politically going to weaken ourselves in the world by becoming isolated and no longer a leading member, as we are leaving the eu in the next few weeks. Right you finished the interview by getting people to throw things at the telly by you finished the interview by getting people to throw things at the telly bite bite max orrin us well, you finish the interview. It will be another two or three years. Threw things at the telly by telling us it will be another two three years. We havent started the grown up serious negotiations on the long term arrangement yet and we cant until we have this Withdrawal Agreement interface. Good to speak to you. Thank you very much. Ken clarke and his whelks his whelks, and that man in downing street 49 years. He is going. A little late to go to carol with the weather but we will show you what is happening outside our studio. Why are we in here, so back . Look, somebody rolling on the canal, enjoying it, lovely calm water. Carol, you cant beat that, can you . No, unless you like fog. Beautiful picture of fog in bristol sentin beautiful picture of fog in bristol sent in by one of weather watchers first thing this morning. Some patchy fog, some dense, across parts of south wales in southern england. That will lift them for many it will be dry with some sunshine. But there is some rain on the horizon. Some are coming close to this weather front, into the south east. We also have france across the north west bringing rain but look at the western mediterranean. Here we have had some torrential rain in the last few days, and also some damaging winds. The pictures im showing you are of munnar, and also ibiza. Look at that, the rain hammering down, and the damage due to the wind, uprooting trees, and look at that damage to the wall. In the last 24 hours in the western mediterranean, around 355,000 lightning strikes. Closer to home what we have is the mist and fog lifting,. Knee this will help left the fog but also produced showing outbreaks of rain. That might lift the fog. Further rain coming in from the west accompanied by quite gusty winds. Eastern scotland, northern england, much of the midlands and over towards wales, likely to be drier. This front could get through the midlands and into east wales and if that happens anywhere south of that could well see some showery outbreaks of rain. 11 15dc, more or less bang on where we should be at the stage of october. This evening and overnight, the front wandering north for a time but the north west front sinks further south. Clear skies in between could see some misty fog farming. These are temperatures in towns and cities and rural areas will be a bit lower. Tomorrow, there are two fronts, this one effectively knocking this one back onto the near continent. Low pressure anchored to the north west. A squeeze on those isobars. In the north and west of scotland tomorrow we are likely to see some heavy showers, submerging to give longer spells of rain and also you will likely see some thundery activity here as well as the north west of Northern Ireland. Nothing like we are seeing around here. For the rest of the uk, a lot of dry weather, sunshine, a few showers, with rain continuing to push into the south east, probably clearing into the evening. Thursday and friday, this battle between the cold air coming south and the milder air heading north. What will happen is, we think, this front coming in from the south west, and it may well change but this is what we think currently. After a dry and bright start, for many central and eastern areas, in comes the rain with a knife with mild there, bumping into the cloud there further north this means we could see snow on the tops of the pennines and Southern Options which might be disruptive for your journey home later. While we are talking of disruption, this further rain on saturday as well. North wales in particular, and northern england, rain causing some issues as well. It always does. So soggy underfoot in so many of the places, but, ok, good for the garden. Yougov has been abandoned . You can wear the waterproofs, get the brolly out you do it for a dry waterproofs, get the brolly out you do it fora dry waterproofs, get the brolly out you do it for a dry forjoy. Over the last year here on breakfast, weve been following families of children with special Educational Needs, as they fight for access to better care and support. This morning, a long awaited report by a group of mps, concludes many parents face a titanic struggle to get the right help for their child. Brea kfasts Jayne Mccubbin is at a special school in manchester for us now. This is something very close to your heart, because you have followed lots of the issues surrounding special needs education in the last few months . Over the past few years actually we have been banging on about this issue, because so many of you out there tell us it is going wrong and it is important, and today this cross party report inquiry said that actually, yeah, parents are right, it is not good enough. Shameful is in fact a word used. Good morning, everybody. Shh we dont want to set off the first night like we did in the last live hit x night like we did in the last live hitx might night like we did in the last live hit x might look at this, the best smile in the clash in this speaks of confusion, bureaucratic nightmares, a lack of accountability set off the alexa like we did in the last live hit now look at this. Lets meet charles. Good morning. You have had a long hard fight to get to the school, but tell us what it was like when things were going wrong. It was stressful. It wasnt nice at all because the classes were too big, the corridors were very crowded, and some of the older students were using a very inappropriate manner towards the younger students and it didnt really help any of us, especially at all. You are really struggling, wont you . But you are doing great now . I am. You lack any casting agents out there . Charles is into acting gary, what was the pressure like on the family . Immense. Daily meltdowns come into the evening, struggling at night, struggling to get to sleep, affecting mum, my self, his sister. Affecting sleeping and eating patterns. That went on notjust through and eating patterns. That went on not just through school days but over the weekend as well. Affecting the whole family. The impact is massive and the control measures we had to put in place just to get proper education were huge. Thank you for talking to us this morning, we really appreciate it. Part of this report actually is all about pa re nts this report actually is all about parents experiences. It actually comes with a warning that people reading the report might find it distressing, and it comes with the samaritans helpline number as well. That is how bad some of these pieces of evidence are. Listen, we know that, just in the last couple of months, with the head teachers now, linda and louise, in the past months we have had a report from the National Audit office saying things are going wrong, from the local government ombudsman saying things are going wrong, and the department for education have told us they are going to do another review. What do you think about that . going to do another review. What do you think about that . I just think that another review is another lifetime for our young people and our parents and carers, and every month is another month that you dont get what you need, what you deserve. And you dont get access to the services you are meant to be accessing. Thank you so much, everybody. Should we say goodbye, everybody . We believe you now and go to the news, travel and weather whenever you are waking up this morning. We will leave you now. Hi, there, good morning. Its been a rather chilly start this morning, some fog around southern areas of england, mostly clearing away but an area of low pressure to the west bringing some weather fronts across Northern Ireland, the west of scotland, this weather front in the south east of england are bringing more cloud today and eventually there will be some rain in the south east of england during the afternoon but the rain quite heavyin the afternoon but the rain quite heavy in the west of scotland. Through wales, through Northern Areas of england, its looking like its going to be mostly dry with some sunny spells. Maximum temperatures today getting up to 12, 15, may be 16 degrees. The rain in the south east becomes a bit more persistent and widespread through the night tonight as this band of rain in the west clears away towards the east. Quite a messy picture into thursday morning, not as cold as this morning, temperatures mostly staying up at about 7 11. Throughout thursday, a rather cloudy start, some sunny spells and showers in the west but further rain towards the south east. This is worklife from bbc news, with Sally Bundock and james menendez. One step forward, two steps sideways for brexit, as uk mps approve borisjohnsons withdrawal deal but vote down the timetable. Live from london, thats our top story on wednesday 23rd october. So the brexit bill is paused for now. What happens next . Extension or even general election . Well consider the alternatives. Also in the programme