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For tomorrows eu summit. In brussels, the eus chief negotiator says we are working. Dame Louise Ellman quits labour after 22 years as an mp, saying she can no longer advocate voting for the party whenjeremy corbyn could become Prime Minister. As Kurdish Forces fight to retain territory under turkish attack, President Trump says the conflict is no longer a matterfor the us. President trump describes a meeting with the family of harry dunn as beautiful and sad. The parents refused to meet the woman involved in the crash that killed their son. Hello and welcome to our look ahead to what the papers will be bringing us tomorrow. With me are anna isaac, reporter at the wall streetjournal, and john rentoul, chief political commentator at the independent. All of tomorrows front pages are now in. Lets start with the express. It says Boris Johnson is tantalisingly close to a brexit deal after last minute negotiations with the eu. Optimism in the daily mail, as well, over the Prime Ministers likelihood of clinching a deal, although it warns he could still meet resistance at home. A more cautious tone in the mirror. It claims borisjohnsons hopes of securing a brexit deal are hanging in the balance ahead of thursdays crunch eu summit. The times warns mrjohnsons fate is in the hands of dup leader arlene foster, whose opposition, the newspaper says, is the most significant obstacle to an agreement. According to the telegraph, mrjohnson has compared the brexit talks to the prison break drama the shawshank redemption, in which an inmate crawls through a sewer to reach freedom. And, away from brexit, the Financial Times says Investment Firm Hargreaves Lansdown has come under fire after almost 300,000 of its customers were embroiled in the collapse of woodford investment management. So brexit dominating most of the front pages. Lets see what our reviewers make of it all. We will start with that front page of the daily express. It is really against the odds considering it has taken 3. 5 years to get to this point and they are still working late into the night on finalising a deal to put to the leaders tomorrow. Yes, i mean, its extraordinary how far we seem to have come in reallyjust ten days or so. We have gone from being com pletely days or so. We have gone from being completely at odds, exchanging blows verbally in public with different rhetoric to saying close, close, getting there. The language has really shifted, and we seen have the impact on financial markets. We have seen the pound to appreciate in value because investors are hopeful we can get this over the line. So the tone is very strong even though eve ryo ne the tone is very strong even though everyone is adding caveats that we still have to get it through the parliament if we can get the deal. And your phone must have been going non stop this evening as we were teased with little bits of information, but not as much as we we re information, but not as much as we were used to. They kept talks quite under wraps. These european negotiations do tend to be fairly leakproof. They have this phrase about going into the tunnel where the officials just about going into the tunnel where the officialsjust go into private session and things dont tend to leak out. We still dont actually know the shape of the deal, but we do know the politics of it are that everybody wants a deal to be done. Everybody has got an interest in a deal being done. The dup are obviously, i think, deal being done. The dup are obviously, ithink, squeezing deal being done. The dup are obviously, i think, squeezing the la st obviously, i think, squeezing the last bits of theatre out of the drama. You know, i mean, i dont know quite what their objections are, but we know what the difficult issues are. There is the issues of the consent the Northern Irish people must have over the arrangements, and then there is the complications of a Customs Border and how it works and where it works. But the very fact that we are at the stage where they are saying. 0ne of the few things we know is they are saying one of the sticking points as the details of the vat arrangements in Northern Ireland. The fact that they are getting to that level of minutiae suggests that some of the biggest stuff, they must have got to the point where they are now satisfied they can get backing both from the wider eu, but also domestically here in the uk. Well, i hate to be really boring about tax issues, but vat is actually potentially a massive problem. The Administrative Burden if youve got two Different Levels of vat being charged on the same area, which could happen in Northern Ireland depending on how these details work out, could have a massive impact on business and their ability to effectively trade and to either benefit or not benefit from what could be a lower rate in one jurisdiction versus another. It is also the issue thatjohn touched upon with the consent issue with stormont. That could be much more than just stormont. That could be much more thanjust a stormont. That could be much more than just a wrinkle. That could be absolutely huge. We are in a strange situation where everything we are hearing about what consent mechanism could look like has to be caveated for the fact that we have this profound dysfunction where power sharing has broken down in Northern Ireland. This was going for a long time before brexit happen, we just didnt Pay Attention to it in the same way. Without a Stormont Assembly working effectively, trying to co nstru ct assembly working effectively, trying to construct a mechanism whereby you can have a regular check in with the people in Northern Ireland to see that they still consent to having this differentiation between some uk rules and some eu rules, in order to try and have a frictionless relationship on the border with the whole island of ireland, is going to be really difficult. And trying to find something where you dont aggravate the dup at all, where there could be a difference that allows a border down the irish sea for some good standards, for example, is a real challenge. And the real challenge for the newspapers overnight to try and put a headline on something that isnt quite finalised, but is obviously nearly there. And so weve got the phrase the knife edge, that phrase on several the headlines. The other thing is when the eu ambassadors of some of the Member States were briefed, apparently they were not shown the draft of the legal text. This is the other thing we dont know, is whether they will be a full text for the leaders to sign off, either thursday or friday. Because, if there isnt, then were into all of complications with the benn act forcing the Prime Minister to seek an extension, and so on. And none of that has been resolved yet. It is a really tricky balancing act for all of these newspaper front pages. And one of the things we observed when we we re one of the things we observed when we were going through the papers is, they have all gone with the bars image, most with the Prime Minister oii image, most with the Prime Minister on the other side of the bars, daily telegraph, though, him in front. Breaking out, freedom, and likening it to the shawshank redemption. Yes, thatis it to the shawshank redemption. Yes, that is because it was the words that is because it was the words that boris used, i assume that was the thinking shawshank redemption. It has played a bit of a blinder in that everyone has gone for the shot of him behind, not to mention it is a very strong shade of yellow. But what is interesting in the way the telegraph plays out the story is it has today, tomorrow and saturday and it lays out these different stages we have to get to. When we talk about whether or not there is going to be full legal text in front of the european leaders, they have a choice of either flying slightly blind and having to nod through something they dont know the finer detail on, which i find ha rd to the finer detail on, which i find hard to believe given my understanding of how European Councils tend to work, or if they dont, then the result of the benn act could be that we are in a situation where we get a three month extension by default, and this vote on saturday, this extraordinary sitting of parliament on a saturday, it hasnt happened since the falklands war, it becomes an indicative vote rather than a binding vote in the same way. And we could see, the more time there is to squabble over the detail, i think politically that will make it harder and harder to get it over the line, ultimately. John, how much excitement is there about this saturday session of parliament in political journalism saturday session of parliament in politicaljournalism circles . Saturday session of parliament in political journalism circles . I saturday session of parliament in politicaljournalism circles . I have seen politicaljournalism circles . I have seen it dubbed super saturday. There isa seen it dubbed super saturday. There is a lot of rewriting of rotas going on, that is certainly true. I usually work on a saturday, so it is just another working day for me, but it will be pretty special. I mean, not least because there is going to bea not least because there is going to be a huge march for a referendum happening at the same time outside parliament, and then there is going to be this session inside parliament. But as anna said, mps are going to be asked possibly to vote on a 500 page Withdrawal Agreement with barely enough time. I mean, if you are talking about the time that students have to revise their set texts, they will get more time than mps are given to read 500 pages and then vote on it. Reading the set text the night before . I cant imagine lets have a look at how the metro has dealt with it. Summits got to give. They have gone for a planning approach. This will require compromise punning approach. Not everyone can have the porridge at the temperature they wa nt porridge at the temperature they want it. Yes, i love that it has this line Boris Johnson want it. Yes, i love that it has this line borisjohnson use last night when it talks about the hilary step on mount everest. It is one of the hardest places to climb hillary step. But as i understand it, the hillary step has perhaps disintegrated. There has been an earthquake. There are a lot of interesting metaphors going on with regards to brexit. We are either in a sewer orfalling down regards to brexit. We are either in a sewer or falling down a regards to brexit. We are either in a sewer orfalling down a mountain. But progress, apparently. And underneath their main headline they have highlighted the stumbling of the vat, which you mentioned. That is where the dup concern may come m, is where the dup concern may come in, that if there was a separate arrangement for Northern Irelands vat status, that means it is being treated differently to the rest of the uk, and to use a phrase that i think we havent heard for some time, that was one of their redlines, wasnt it . It was one of their redlines, and arlene foster, their redlines, and arlene foster, the leader of the dup, used some pretty fearsome language about the state of those red lines, expressing how important they were. I am not actually going to use her language, because it is quite forceful. Thank you. Her point has always been very clear and they have always been very direct about the fact that if there isa direct about the fact that if there is a different treatment of Northern Ireland, that could undermine what they consider to be the fundamental underpinning of the union together. However, in order to have this frictionless order in a scenario frictionless order in a scenario frictionless border in a scenario where you cant mobilise these technologies that people have put forward , technologies that people have put forward, even if you agree that technology is functional, they havent all functioned together before, if you cant do that in time, you dont have an easy mechanism where if areas have different taxation rules, how do you fix that . How do you minimise that friction . And to have different vat levels, you are talking about something quite complicated that we didnt really talk about much recently but a couple of years ago people were talking about how you would do it whereby someone in the uk might be collecting different taxes versus people on behalf of the eu. Which the eu didnt like. And you have to construct some sort of re bate you have to construct some sort of rebate mechanism. So this small thing that seems like just the tax detail actually becomes a big problem between the uk and the eu. If they manage to agree this quite complicated fix, the administration of that fixed going on becomes a big issue in terms of how they manage the dynamics of the future relationships, and leaving a lot of room for never ending rows. |j relationships, and leaving a lot of room for neverending rows. I want to pick up on the front page of the guardian, and again they highlight the importance for the Prime Minister to get the dup backing. But maybe that would have been far more crucial when his government had a majority, a working majority, dependent on the dup. But even with the dup backing, he doesnt guarantee he has got a majority to get this through. I think as long as he has the dup on board, he does have the numbers. Because i think there are. Obviously he expelled a lot of conservatives from the party, which was a controversial thing to do, but most of those did vote for theresa mays deal and most of them i suspect will vote for Boris Johnsons deal as well. I mean, i suspect will vote for Boris Johnsons dealas well. I mean, he has gone about it the opposite way from theresa may. He has made sure that the dup are on board with every stage of it, and thats why the dup are still. They are the key votes in the end to get this deal agreed with the eu, and then as long as it is agreed by them, he has the votes to get it through. Theresa may must be watching this with puzzlement, i think. When i am watching the parliamentary coverage, i am always just trying to see in the background whether she is nodding her head. Two herface in the whether she is nodding her head. Two her face in the chamber of the commons is a study, i think. She often raises an eyebrow or scowls. But interestingly, i think the rules are with the footage they are not allowed to cut two reaction shots u nless allowed to cut two reaction shots unless she is mentioned. They are very strict. Lets move the times and quite a blow to labour, dame Louise Ellman, 20 two years in the party, and she has quit it. My phone was going off andl has quit it. My phone was going off and i was getting a lot of texts just now from labour members who are really sick and upset about this. You know, it is terrible and i know, while talking to labour mps, all of them struggle or the ones that do not support jeremy corbyn, which them struggle or the ones that do not supportjeremy corbyn, which is most of them dash struggle with the question of whether they should stay and fight or leave and criticise a party from the outside and she has obviouslyjoined the party from the outside and she has obviously joined the group party from the outside and she has obviouslyjoined the group who have decided to do that. I mean, she has made her upset known but i should say we have had a statement that the labour party saying thatjeremy corbyn thanks Louise Ellman for his service to the labour party for many yea rs service to the labour party for many years and bothjeremy and the labour Party Support celebration of the Jewish Community and are taking action to wipe out anti semitism in the party and wider society. At a time when they would be focusing attention on the struggles of the Prime Minister to get a brexit deal done, this is unwelcome news for them. The culture secretary also on them. The culture secretary also on the time suggesting making the bbc and that flick style subscription service. There is more detail in the article about that as well. |j service. There is more detail in the article about that as well. I think it isa article about that as well. I think it is a mechanism people know it works. Issues about how the license fee is administered separately to your ability to logon and take advantage of content. Thats that would make it increasingly difficulty on how you manage how the bbcs retin a news versus its broadcast news and also its content on the bbc sounds and how you reconcile the different platforms. That is going to be really tricky, i think. None of it makes sense at the moment. It would be difficult to explain to someone who doesnt know the history of the bbc how it is funded. It is interesting that nicky morgan, side of the pub quiz answer of who with the culture secretary because we still have a new cabinet andl because we still have a new cabinet and i cant remember who these people are. If you cant, john, the rest of us feel a bit less worried. It is headlined as opens the door but she has said she has an open mind. The present system seems unsustainable in the long run and thatis unsustainable in the long run and that is obviously true because we are moving to a different media age so are moving to a different media age so the field seems wide open for designing some kind of way of preserving what is special about the bbc but adapting it to the modern streaming stuff that young people. The whole model of streaming service is becoming increasingly crowded. Netflix was once the big disruptor and now it looks like the dinosaur of them all. Disney, amazon, hbo, there are so many. Much more aggression between them also. More restriction about cross advertising, moves from the bbc itv to come together and think about how they can package some of their drummer content and that sort of thing to make bundled offerings. It has followed the lack of newsprint but people are looking at how to bundle these offerings together to make it something that is more commercially attractive but, i think, the subscription feels shocking when you think about the bbc and where it stands in society but then i think because younger people do not understand the licensing has been described as a way people do not understand. Bbc is not under general taxation but it is a licensing fee. If people can get there had around subscription more than a licensee, it might be effective. Fair point. We will finish with the daily mail, a rather lovely picture, the duke and duchess of cambridge on the tour to pakistan and using it as a chance to pakistan and using it as a chance to highlight the action needed really urgently on Climate Change. Yes, and wearing some funny hats at the same time. Laughter. Culturally significant hats. 0k the same time. Laughter. Culturally significant hats. Ok but i think the message is clear. I heard Prince William talking about imminent climate catastrophe, the sort of language you would not associate with the royal family. I know Prince Charles as i was been big. Interested in the environment. But digging up some of that Extinction Rebellion style of that Extinction Rebellion style of thinking is entirely a good thing. It follows prince harry taking a similar stance recently as well. I think they have definitely, across the board, made well. I think they have definitely, across the boa rd, made issues well. I think they have definitely, across the board, made issues that would appeal to a new generation pa rt would appeal to a new generation part of the rebranding of the royals, as it were, to focus on Mental Health and Climate Change as keyissuesis Mental Health and Climate Change as key issues is a very effective way to go about that. Whoever is doing their pr has taken a fairly smart approach. But it is also something that Prince Charles has advocated for a very, very long time and i think there is this point weather has been a shift in language where people are using climate crisis, climate emergency, instead of climate emergency, instead of Climate Change. London is full of Extinction Rebellion protesters with more disruption expected in the coming days. On that note, thank you very much indeed. Thats it for the papers tonight. Dont forget you can see the front pages of the papers online on the bbc news website. Its all there for you seven days a week at bbc. Co. Uk papers, and if you miss the programme any evening, you can watch it later on bbc iplayer. Thank you, anna and john. Thank you for staying up, if you are up thank you for staying up, if you are up past your bedtime. From us all, goodbye. Good evening, heres your latest sports news Bulgarian Police have arrested at least six men suspected of racially abusing england players during monday nights euro qualifier in sofia. Nine more fans have been identified and are under polic investigation. Nine more fans have been identified and are under police investigation. Fare, an anti Discrimination Network across europe, says that about 20 stewards joined in with fans who were chanting racist abuse during the 6 0 win over bulgaria. The group had spotters in the crowd, who said they saw the stewards take off their hi vis vests before the game. Fare have called for bulgaria to be expelled from the qualifying campaign. 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Pushing showers through the English Channel and the south east of england and the midlands. Scotland, largely dry. Better day in north east scotland than on wednesday. Temperatures are near normal for this time of year. Increasing numbers of showers on thursday. They will continue through thursday. They will continue through thursday evening. Again some will be heavy and some blustery wind and because of that it should be a mile denied. Typically they would be double figures in the south of england. On friday, another day of sunshine and showers. Showers developing more widely through the day. Showers blown in with stronger winds in western england and wales. Sunshine in between the showers. Temperatures i2 sunshine in between the showers. Temperatures 12 15 degrees and those numbers not changing it very much at the moment. The low pressure is sitting about here, by the time we get into the weekend, it is moving right away across the uk. Sunshine and showers to start the day, away from northern scotland, around coastal areas. Showers building through the day and low pressure sitting over england and wales with slow moving heavy and sundry showers. So as to scotland and into Northern Ireland. It will feel cooler as well with the highest temperatures in the south east, 15 degrees. As we head into sunday, the showers become fewer with the northerly breeze it will turn cooler. Early next week, most places will be dry with some sunshine. Im lewis vaughanjones in london. The headlines the frantic search for a last minute brexit deal negotiators are still hard at work on the eve of the brussels summit. And democrats and republicans in the us house of representatives vote overwhelmingly to condemn President Trumps decision to pull American Forces from syria. Im rico hizon in singapore. 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