Knowing how he manipulated me does make me incredibly angry. And confront men who are teaching these tactics. Its completely consensual. If anything, we prevent rape culture. Revealing the truth about seduction boot camps. Theres nothing new about men trying to chat up women. In this online age, getting together with someone in real life can be challenging. There is a business that claims to offer a formula for success. This is addy a game. Two cozies so far. Real name adnan ahmed. Hes selling what he says are the secrets to picking up women. The reason youre doing it is to get laid. Only the brave get laid. He leads a group of men based in glasgow who call themselves pickup artists. They teach techniques such as the so called cold approach stopping women in the street to get as many phone numbers as possible. Men like ahmed secretly film much of what they do and upload it onto their Youtube Channels. Ijust bust a nut or two, in a random same day lay. It was a lot of last minute resistance i had to come through. Eventually. Hes talking about a woman he says he just slept with who he met that same day. Adnan ahmed has posted more than 250 videos, many boasting about his sexual conquests. Like this one. Its too graphic to broadcast in full. She was like, no, no, no. Consent doesnt seem to be a big concern. She was like, why are you putting a condom on . I was like, im just putting a condom on. Plausible deniability. They want you to take the lead. Remember, this is not rape. Listen to her actions, her body, not her words. In many of his videos, ahmed repeatedly approaches strangers in the street. In this one, he boasts of what he calls a same night lay. Including audio apparently recorded during sex, which were not broadcasting. Afterwards, he films a woman sleeping with an unused condom next to her. What ahmed is teaching is part of a growing Global Online business that the men involved call game. Earlier this year, i revealed on the bbc what hed been up to. There was a huge response. Im sure everybody in the chamber would, like me, have been shocked and appalled by the bbcs investigation into so called gaming. Within days, women were posting their experiences online. This one was written by beth. Id just come out from work at half seven, eight oclock at night and it was november so it was really quite dark outside. He approached me just from the side and he started making really crude comments at me and stuff, like, really early on in the conversation. What sort of things . He was mentioning when he was in ukraine or something, he had hired prostitutes, and he was saying that id be, like, better than prostitutes. And, like, just a horrible manner and was just, like, quite touchy with me. 0k. Yeah. So what did you do then . Just not engage with him. I kind ofjust have to, like, keep him on a level where hes not going to get aggressive with me. Ive not asked you how old were you at the time . Im17 at the time of the incident i was 17 as well. And he told me he was 27, but he was actually 37 years old, so 20 years older than me. Here, adnan ahmed stuffs a microphone in his pocket, ready to approach another young woman in central glasgow. Someone else films the whole encounter. Emily says she had no idea she was being filmed. Just round about here. For the video that was later posted on his Youtube Channel. I did spend the first couple of minutes in that video kind of looking down at my phone and breaking eye contact. The ridiculous thing is, in that entire conversation im trying to figure out a way to let him down gently. We dont want to be called a bitch for rejecting someone, we dont want to be called rude forjust closing the interaction down. He later posted in his video that he could easily have taken things further with emily. If i had met her on vacation, on holiday, it would have been a same day lay. That. Infuriates me. For him to so painfully misread that is. Is frustrating. Neither emily nor beth reported ahmed to the police. Other women did. Two days after my expose, he was arrested and charged with harassment. Then i began investigating the Online Business hes part of. From america to australia, the seduction industry is said to be worth around £80 million. Pickup coaches sell courses on how to sleep with as many women as possible as quickly as possible. Rachel oneill has studied the world of seduction coaches for over a decade. Theres an idea that by filming interactions with women on the street, but also up to and including on dates, in bed and so forth this is something that trainers can actually use as a way of effectively branding themselves and marketing themselves to their students. Its very common and its almost entirely unquestioned. I even asked men about this practice, and they were. Very nonchalant about it. They didnt seem to think it was a big deal and they were quite curious as to why i was even asking, why would i even consider that a problem. Looking online, theres no shortage of video tutorials. Babble of voices heres adnan ahmed being coached by another pickup artist whos based in london. I think thats why we do game. Its like when the opportunity presents itself, you can strike. Hes talking to Eddie Hitchens real name edib bajraktarevic. The date went really well, i eventually got her back to my place, and i had sex with her. Eddie runs a Company Called street attraction. It has its own Youtube Channel featuring what they call in field videos covert recordings of eddie and other coaches with young women. Eddie runs another website behind a paywall called approach 2 lay where he promises to reveal his seduction techniques all the way to the bedroom. Hey, Eddie Hitchens here. Ill give you all the necessary theory, but for extra clarity it will all be backed up by intimate in field footage. Recording such intimate stuff in general isnt easy. If a girl knows that shes being filmed she obviously wont act in a natural way and almost certainly wont allow herself to be seduced for fear of her reputation being ruined. Because we wanted to capture the real thing and real reactions, it had to be filmed covertly, guerrilla style. Street attraction has more than 100,000 youtube subscribers. They also sell weekend boot camps where their coaching techniques seem to be in demand. Here we see adnan ahmed on one of their london boot camps. Hes so, so persistent. Ijust love that. Boot camps are big business in this industry. The epicentre for pickup artists in the uk is london. A week course can cost up to £1500. A week up to £a000. Im on oxford street, which is one of the prime spots for pickup artists, and you can tell just by looking around at how busy the place is why they pick it. I want to find out what really goes on during these boot camps, so im going undercover, shaving my beard and ditching my real name. I have a secret camera hidden in myjacket. So this is the jacket ill be wearing. Its quilted. Which is good, when its the hottest day of the year. We meet in the centre of town. There are six students, from the recently single to the experienced pickup artist. Each paying £600 to learn more about game. The students each hand over wads of cash. The first lesson the cold approach. How to stop women you dont know in the street. Soon its my turn. Im 31. I dont want to approach someone who looks half my age. The coaches seem less concerned. Eddie hitchens is 34. All weekend, he and other coaches suggest approaching teenagers. Another coach, richard hood real name richard kaptar is also teaching today. Hes in his late 20s. So coaches can hear how were getting on, they mic us up and our conversations with women are listened to and analysed. And now theyre miking me up. All day long, we cold approach young women, notjust on the streets. Were taught that clothes shops are an ideal hunting ground. Last three we spend a couple of hours here. Here, one of the students wearing a hidden microphone is sent to stop a woman. Richard and i eavesdrop on the conversation. This happens over and over again. There is an idea that seduction essentially provides a blueprint that men can follow as a way of interacting with women. So youll be given a more or less scripted set of lines, routines that you can follow. Most Training Camps now will spend the majority of their time out on the streets, in bars, cafes, museums any public space, actually practising these techniques, putting them into action. And that means often unwillingly drawing women into these interactions. I was pretty shocked by what these guys were teaching. I wanted to know what young men and women would make of it. Theyre trying to sell this idea that this is the safest way to do it, this is the way weve always done it, but in fact its the most dangerous way because theyre not treating them as human. To me i felt like he was preying on somebody that might not know how to get rid of him. Im actually shaking, im so furious. The problem is not seeing women as fully human. Sort of seeing women as like a dispenser that you put a certain amount of attention into and sex comes out. Back in central london, its day two of the boot camp. Im told today well be taught how to convert a cold approach into sex. One of the biggest challenges, they say, is what they call last minute resistance to sex, or lmr. Coach richard hood gave me his advice. Richard tells us that men can be too preoccupied with consent. Theres an idea with lmr that women put up a certain amount of supposedly token resistance prior to having sex, and this is something again, under seduction logic that women do as a way of trying to safeguard their reputation. And the thing thats really worrying about this is that it creates a situation in which a womans no can never be legitimately heard as a 110. Richard hood thinks he knows every trick in the book. This video called picking up girls in slovakia was uploaded on youtube. Hed apparently secretly recorded himself having sex with a woman hed just met. By the way, guys, she told me that she hasnt had sex for a year and a half. Basically girls who havent had sex for a while are normally. Are usually easier to seduce than girls who have sex on a regular basis. When we speak at the boot camp richard says he has manipulated situations, overcoming last minute resistance to get what he wants. Richards advice didnt stop there. The things that theyre being taught is just. The techniques and the lmrs and stuff is exactly what maybe a few of us here have experienced and its the fact that women just cant say no and then a guy goes, 0k, cool. They came to perceive themselves being a real man, but im sure that most peoples perception of them is theyre immature wee boys. I think even like the language they use, like escalation and resistance and stuff it makes you wonder, for some people, like, where would it stop . Street attraction sells residential courses in eastern europe. They say men travel from all over to take part. You should considerjoining us for an intensive residential trip. In this video, they appear to film and listening as a student cold approaches a woman. Again, the encounter is being filmed from a distance. I saw you walking and i think you look really nice. The student is wearing a microphone. And the recording continues all the way to the flat. Once they have gone inside, the recording continues, capturing audio of them apparently having sex. Criminal barrister kate parker thinks that these videos could be breaking the law. It is clear to me that sharing a kind of content online is obscene, because it is private content, never intended to be broadcast. If i was prosecuting that, i think i would charge them under the Communications Act or the misCommunications Act, in relation to indecent, obscene or offensive footage. For a 47 fee, i found what eddie says is a secret recording of him picking up an 18 year old. From a cold approach on the street, taking her to a coffee shop, and finally to the bedroom, with eddie apparently secretly recording the sound of them having sex. Eddie goes on to describe his 1a ways to help men overcome so called last minute resistance to sex. The fact that they are teaching about last minute resistance, is there anything legally problematic . I think it is really concerning, it is encouraging them to bypass any red flags being put up by these women, that they should be sensitive to and responding to. I tried to get eddie and richard to give me an interview, without success. So, im coming to speak to them at another of their london boot camps. Hi, eddie. Hey. Hi, im myles bonnarfrom the bbc. Do you remember me . Yeah . Well, ive a couple of questions i want to ask you because youve failed to respond. You teach men how to pressurise women into having sex. You taught. You taught me this. I dont pressurise any women into having sex. No, you teach men to pressurise women. Thats completely wrong. So how do you justify it . Thats completely wrong. Last minute resistance, eddie. Thats completely wrong, that you have twisted it completely out of context. You have a video, eddie, that says, when you encounter someone saying, this is too fast, carry on escalating. You have put it completely out of context. Thats what it says. Its. Bro, its an art. Eddie. Its disgusting what you guys do. Absolutely disgusting. Do you know how consent works . Trying to portray normal. Normal, consensual sex as something disgusting. Its absolutely disgusting what you guys do. Disgusting. See, if its not with consent then. Its completely consensual. We actually help men. So, if anything, we prevent rape culture, so men have the skills to not have to. Get involved in anything illegal or anything non consensual. Youre teaching men to manoeuvre around consent. Not at all. And on top of that, youre telling your students that they should approach teenagers. Not true. The thing that i teach is exactly this find out how old the girl is before you do anything sexual. Where do you stand on publishing sex audio from women that you secretly recorded . The sex audio . What sex audio . Approach 2 lay £47. What are you talking about . You can see. What are you talking about . Come on, eddie. The six part series. What are you talking about . You meeting an 18 year old and sleeping with her, and putting the audio online. What are you talking about . Thats nonsense. Approach 2 lay . Thats nonsense. You deny that . Of course. You guys are basically misrepresenting what were doing, its absolutely disgusting, and well see you in court. Coach richard hood is also teaching today. Hi, richard. Hows it going . Irememberyou. Im myles from the bbc. How are you . Are you having a good day . I just. Yeah. Go ahead. Some of the training techniques that you gave us. Shoot. So, you were teaching men how to pressurise women into having sex. No. Thats not true. Last minute resistance. You dont remember that, no . No, no. Thats not true. Richard, you told me. I remind richard of his point of no return comment. I dont remember saying that, no. You dont remember saying that . I dont remember saying that, no. And ask him why he secretly films women during sex. Weve never filmed girls. No, you can see. Weve had actresses. No, no, you can see. You can see. Thats actresses. Its actresses . So, if we find her, theres all written consent on that . Yes, correct. Yes. So, is that with everyone . Because i didnt see anyone getting consent when you were in conversation. Have i given you consent to film this . This is different. Ive been trying to get a hold of you for weeks. I was busy. You dont get consent when were out in the streets, listening into womens conversations but you do when you put videos online. Is that right . Anyway, i mean, i dont know where youre trying to go with all of this. 0k. So, youve done nothing wrong . Correct. And you dont think youre breaking the law. Of course not. Well, i thank you. Goodbye hugs . No, i thank you for your time, and well be in touch. I love you, bro. I love the bbc and i love myles. What an amazing guy. Thanks. Thanks, richard. Have a great weekend, guys. Yeah. Back in glasgow, the trial of adnan ahmed is over. Ajury has found him guilty of harassing women. Could they be breaking the law by filming women without consent . The criminal law tends to play catch up with new kinds of behaviour, and there is always a bit of hesitancy, what can we go after them on . Once we have a test case for this kind of behaviour that goes to the courts and result in conviction, everybody, or at least the pick up artist themselves, will be clear on what they can and cant do. While the law plays catch up, women are still being targeted. To spread those techniques, without naming it that, without saying this is what we are doing, it is manipulating women, is really insidious, that is something that really needs to be addressed. For now, men around the world continue to profit from filming and selling what they call the secrets of seduction. A game where women dont even know they are being played. Hello. So far time has been very wet for some of us and as you will see in this forecast, were not done this. This is how friday starts. Quite a bit of rain across england and wales. Particularly heavy wells, parts of the midlands, northern england, could be travel disruption and its area of heavy downpours pushing southward gusty winds as today goes on to some of us, northern england, parts of wales driving up stop a few showers northern ireland, sunny spells here. 20 of downpours feeding into parts of western scotland especially to the north of glasgow, only slowly fading into the evening whereas we still have outbreaks of rain affecting parts of southern england, perhaps south wales as we gone through the night and saturday morning. Some clear spells elsewhere. Further north you are, the colder it will be but nowhere particularly cold. Scotland, northern ireland, northern england, saturday, sunny spells, a few showers in north wales could be bright as well. Further and at times into southern england and south wales. This is bbc news welcome if youre watching here in the uk, on pbs in america or around the globe. 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