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Sebastian kurtz has delivered a surprising result in the australian election, a clear victory. He will be working with the far right again though, because they lost a great deal of their support. The greens delivered their best result in a general election. We will report from vienna. The bbc reverses its decision to partially uphold a complaint against its presenter Naga Munchetty. Well have all the details. A United Nations Investigation Team has gained access to covert recordings of the moment that journalist Jamal Khashoggi was killed, and theyve described in detail what they heard to the bbc. Mr khashoggi was a writer and critic of saudi arabias government. He was murdered in the countrys consulate in istanbul exactly a year ago this week. Saudis Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman is suspected of personally targeting mr khashoggi. Hes just given his first interview with western media since the murder, this is what he said when he was asked if hed ordered the murder. Translation absolutely not. This was a heinous crime. But i take full responsibility as a leader in saudi arabia. Especially since it was committed by individuals working for the saudi government. Bbc panoramas jane corbin has the story of those secret recordings. In october last year, Jamaal Khashoggi walked into the saudi consulate in istanbul. He was hoping to collect divorce papers in order to marry his turkish fiance. But after entering the building, he was never seen again. We only know that Jamaal Khashoggi was murdered, and the brutal way in which it was done, because the saudi consulate was bugged by turkish intelligence. The planning and the execution were all recorded. You can hear them laughing. Its a sort of chilling business. They are waiting there, knowing that this man is going to come in, and hes going to be murdered. British barrister, helena kennedy, is one of the very few people who have listened to the audio recordings of the journalists death. The horror of listening to somebodys voice, and the fear in someones voice, makes a shiver go through your body. Ms kennedy was invited to join the team, headed by agnes calamar, the uns special rapporteur for extrajudicial killing. She led the investigation into khashoggis murder, and negotiated access to the crucial tapes. Recordings reveal the truth about what happened to jamaal. He says, am i being kidnapped . How could this happen in an embassy . The sounds that are heard after that point indicate that he is suffocated. Probably with a plastic bag over his head. Agnes report for the Un Human Rights Council concluded that khashoggi was the victim of a premeditated execution, for which the state of saudi arabia is responsible. There is no indication under International Law that this crime could be qualified under any other way but as a state killing. The recordings also counter the saudis claim, that khashoggis death was a rogue operation. With the tapes revealing the planning that took place in the days leading up to the murder. There is no doubt in my mind, this was a seriously, highly organised mission coming from the top. This was not some flaky maverick operation. No, no. The saudi government told panorama, it is committed to holding the perpetrators accountable. The crown prince has said that as a leader, he takes full responsibility, but denies ordering the killing. Jane corbin, bbc news. Jamal khashoggis murder has had a big impact on how the world views saudi arabia. Lets hearfrom Frank Gardner who reports from riyadh. Saudi arabia has become a more relaxed, lest austere place under Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. Theres public entertainment, and women can drive, but critics say there is a darker, dictator oriole side to his rule, and the stain of of the khashoggi murder will not be easily erased. The image of saudi arabia around the world took a massive hit from the khashoggi murder. Much of the leadership here was a bit slow to realise the extent of the damage. Here inside the country, there was very little News Coverage about the incident. For most saudis, the negative impact of that event has really been overshadowed by the huge social reforms sweeping this country. For now, the population is largely with him, but saudi arabias problems are mounting, with iran, with yemen, and an ever more sceptical west. Frank gardner, bbc news. Now to washington, because President Trump has suggested the congressman leading the impeachment inquiry against them should potentially be arrested for treason. That was going to be the first place that i was going to start, butjust in the last few minutes, we have had another development of the story. So we think thats all in connection to this story swirling around about ukraine, the conversation between President Trump and the president of the ukraine in the summer, in which mrtrump is the ukraine in the summer, in which mr trump is accused of applying pressure to the ukrainian authorities in orderfor pressure to the ukrainian authorities in order for them and to investigate joe authorities in order for them and to investigatejoe biden, because mr trump is convinced thatjoe biden and his sun had behaved in a corrupt manner in the ukraine. Thats the rough background, we will give you more as we go along. Adam schiff is being accused by President Trump of illegally making up a fake and terrible statements, pretending he says, to be me when it comes to that call with the ukrainian president. Now thats to do with the fact that when talking last week, adam schiff, to make a point, imagine how this call would be by taking some of the actual transcript, and mixing it with how he imagines the message that President Trump was trying to get across, you will see what i mean from the clip. Well it reads like a classic organised sha kedown. Shown of its rambling character and in not so many words, this is the essence of what the president communicates. Weve been very good to your country, very good, no other country has done as much as we have, but you know what, i dont see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want, i have a favour i want from you, though. And im going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good. I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand, lots of it. On this, and on that, im going to put you in touch with people, notjust any people, im going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my attorney general, bill barr. Hes got the whole weight of the american Law Enforcement behind him. And im going to put you in touch with rudy, you are going to love him, trust me. You know what im asking, and so im only going to say this a few more times. In a few more ways. And by the way, dont call me again, ill call you when youve done what ive asked. This is, in some in character of what the president was trying to communicate, with the president of the ukraine. It would be funny if it wasnt such a graphic betrayal of the president s oath of office. So as you heard there, adam schiff was clear he was referring to the essence of what the president communicated and was describing that conversation in sum and character only. But, the president isnt happy. Here he is speaking a short time ago. I made a call. The call was perfect. When the whistle blower reported it, he made it sound terrible. And then you have adam schiff, who even worse, made up my words. Which i think isjust a worse, made up my words. Which i think is just a horrible, worse, made up my words. Which i think isjust a horrible, id never even seen a think isjust a horrible, id never even seen a thing like that. So just remind you, this is coming in from reuters, Rudy Giuliani, mrtrump ozment personal lawyer, subpoenaed by the us house democrats. Gary odonoghue is with us from washington, gary, what does that mean practical terms . Washington, gary, what does that mean practicalterms . Its a legal instrument that the committees can use to demand the production of documents it, and indeed people. And if you dont do what the subpoena says, then you are in contempt of congress, and will be taken to court and in contempt of court. So its a pretty strong piece of instruments, a strong instrument in the arsenal that the Committee Chairman have. Its worth saying in this case what they are subpoenaing is for documents at this stage, and thats to say Text Messages, phone calls, e mails, all of that kind of thing relating to his contacts with ukraine, right back to january 2017. So two and half years of this stuff, andi so two and half years of this stuff, and i think they wanted by the middle of the month. Will they subpoena the man himself to appear, which hasnt been which hasnt happened yet, i think its that they will at some point, yes. 50 for those people who havent been following every twist and turn, why is Rudy Giuliani, a man who is not in the Trump Administration formally, so central to this story . Well, its because, notjust the whistle blower last week, but in reports elsewhere, and indeed in mr giulianis own words, he was involved in these contacts with ukraine, trying to persuade the ukrainian authorities to investigate joe biden. He was part of the follow up process, for example, to thatjuly the 25th call between President Trump and president zelinski. He went to madrid, had a meeting with some senior advisers there, again, asking for help with this. Hes admitted he was part of this. Hes admitted he was part of this kind of policy. Hes also said that the state department has asked him to do some of this work in part, and that others were involved as well. And thats why there are also subpoenas, separate subpoenas today from the Intelligence Committee and others for a number of giulianis business associates. So, this is a big shot across the bows. You will see more of this, we have already had subpoena releases for mike pompeo, secretary of state for documents that he might have relating to this whole visit. There are going to be a lot more of these in the coming days and weeks, and then they will start trying to haul these people in front of these committees for actual evidence sessions. Gary, just seeing the text ofa sessions. Gary, just seeing the text of a statement from adam schiff coming through. Let me pull it up here on the screen. This is a Statement Released by mr schiff. This statement goes on. And gary, we cant accuse Rudy Giuliani of being shy, because hes been talking about this an awful lot. Absolutely. Hes absolutely been talking about it. I mean, at times, not entirely consistently. One point in the space of one interview, he both asserted that he had been trying to persuade them to get some dirt onjoe biden, and denied he talks Aboutjoe Biden at all. So theres some issues with consistency there. But, he has been central to this, and you are right to say that he has made it clear all along. And this is why the text m essa 9 es along. And this is why the Text Messages come into play. At points here, he was under construction to do this work from other parts of the administration. And that is something that will make a lot of people in this administration very uneasy tonight, because they will wonder whether tomorrow morning, wednesday morning, thursday morning, next week on thursday morning, one of these subpoenas is going to land on their door mat too. Gary, thank you very much, indeed. That scary live with us from washington dc. And a few minutes on the programme, we have news concerning the bbc, because of a complaint against the bbc presenter, munchetty, that was partially upheld, with that decision is not being reversed by its director general, we will have all the details on that. Thousands of women who suffer heart attacks are dying needlessly because they fail to recognise their symptoms , and receive poorer care than men, according to a new study. The report by the British Heart Foundation found inequalities in diagnosis, treatment and aftercare. Dr Vijay Kunadian is an interventional cardiologist at newcastle university. server tx for women, traditionally they think its, their conditions are often related to their breast cancer, cervical cancer, but they ignore their heart symptoms. So i say to my patients, if you have any discomfort around your chest, and you dont feel well, think of your heart first. Because Heart Disease is number one killer in the uk, as well as in the worldwide. And our Data Analysis from the National Database shows that women are lagging behind in terms of seeking attention, as well is receiving the treatment, and asa well is receiving the treatment, and as a result, we are losing lives. We are losing precious lives, prematurely. This is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. Our lead story is. Saudi arabias crown prince mohammad bin salman has denied ordering the murder of the journalist, Jamal Khashoggi. But he says it was a heinous crime committed by people working for his government. Other stories around the bbc newsroom. Houthi rebels in yemen have freed almost 300 prisoners as part of a un peace initiative. Thats from bbc arabic. A day of mourning is taking place in france for the former president Jacques Chirac who died last week at the age of 86. World leaders joined almost 2000 people for a service in paris. Over the weekend thousands of people queued to file past his coffin that has been lying in state. Now, lets turn to china, because police there have arrested a fugitive. I apologise, we will come to that story in a moment, but as you can see, we will talk about my colleague, the bbc presenter munchetty. Because a complaint against the bbc presenter Naga Munchetty that was partially upheld and caused a furore has now been reversed by the director general. Naga had been talking with co presenter dan walker about comments made by donald trump. The president had suggested four democratic politicians should go back to places from which they came. Heres the clip from bbc breakfast at the centre of complaint. That was the most telling quote from you last night, i cant remember who said it, but she said ive been told to go home many times. To go back to where ive come from many times in my life. And being told by the man sitting in the oval office. To make and every time ive been told as a woman of colour, to go home, to go back to where it came from, that was embedded in racism. Im not accusing anyone of anything here, but you know what certain phrases mean. Are you still told that . Yes. Not regularly, but you know, ive been told that. I know you are sitting here not giving an opinion, but how do you feel than someone whos been told that before . Furious. Absolutely furious. And i can imagine that lots of people in this country will be feeling absolutely furious that a man in that position feels its ok to start the lines with using language like that. Does that then, do you feel his use of that, because thats the point im trying to make, it then legitimises other people to use it. And as our guest was saying there, it feels like i thought out strategy to strengthen his position. And its not enough to do itjust to strengthen his position. And its not enough to do it just to get attention. One person made a complaint about what was said, and that was partially upheld by a review panel. This then led to a backlash against that review. A large group of actors and broadcasters wrote to the bbc to ask them to reconsider thejudgement. As did many staff. Well the bbcs diector general tony hall emailed all staff earlier. Part of the email read i dont think nagas words were sufficient in other words he was reversing the decision the bbc had been defending publicly as recently as monday. All of which has left some asking what changed between last week and now. Lizo mzimba. Everything has changed. End of last week, the bbc was adamant that what munchetty had said with her comments about President Trumps motivation behind what was a racist tweet was not something she should have done on bbc breakfast. And that was the decision of the very high powered executive complaints unit here, and backed up by the editorial policy unit here at the bbc. Now, of course, since the decision was made, there has been a lot of comments both by the public, from social media, and from many of Naga Munchettys colleagues, not just media, and from many of Naga Munchettys colleagues, notjust at the bbc, but across the industry, culminating in an open letter to a newspaper, lord hall, the director general was asked to look at this decision again. This evening, he announced that he done exactly that. And decided that even though this was a finely balanced judgements, the executive complaints unit got it wrong. And that Naga Munchetty hadnt done anything wrong. So its a complete reversal of the bbcs strongly entrenched position from last week. Many people out there, who of course have been very vocal about this, and will be very pleased at the decision that the bbc has finally made. But will also be asking the question, should the bbc have taken so long to get to the point where they think they should have been, when the decision was originally made. I was interested towards the end of e mail, which lord hall sent every member of staff youre the bbc, he said he would also be looking at some of the processes and procedures around how the bbc assesses these issues. Yes, he said specifically he has asked the editorial and Leadership Teams to discuss how we manage late exchanges on air around these kinds of topics in the future. And saying impartiality is fundamental to bbc journalism. So what he seems to be saying there is, hes not blaming the executive complaints unit for reaching the decision that they did under the rules that the bbc has, but its time to look again, and to make sure that the balance is falling in exactly the right place. You know, hes going out of his way up you know, hes going out of his way up to not criticise anybody, and going out of his way to praise Naga Munchetty who in the e mail he describes as an exceptional journalist, and presenter, and someone journalist, and presenter, and someone that he is proud works for the bbc. In a difficult few days for the bbc. In a difficult few days for the bbc, hasnt it . There will be some who say, look, this is the outcome where we knew the bbc would get to, why has it taken close to a week for it to arrive . Absolutely, and thats a question we may never particularly get the answer to. Lord hall, with his statements, i think is trying to draw a line and saying, this is my final decision. Hopefully, this will make lots of people, including Naga Munchetty happy, but there will be others looking quite rightly, as you say, the process of how the bbc gets there, and just perhaps, another insta nce there, and just perhaps, another instance of a small crisis erupting within the bbc that the bbc hasnt dealt with as cleanly as people sometimes expect. And if you want to read the full text of tony halls e mail to staff at the bbc, you can find it now on the bbc news website. Ok, time for outside source business. We are going to start with forever 21. Forever 21 is the latest fashion retailer to go under. It was founded more than three decades ago by two south korean migrants in la. Its now filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy protection after struggling with online competition and rising debt. Up to 350 Stores Worldwide will close its pulling out of aisa and europe completely but will keep operating in mexico and latin america. Samira hussain live in new york. When you go into bankruptcy protection, does that mean theres hope that you could at some point emerge . Or is this done . Well, it does allow companies in the United States to sort of restructure. It gives them sort of a break, and they can sit back and look at where they are financially. And they can reorganise the way that they are doing business. In part, that is what forever 21 is during post about the rightly mentioned, its closing a whole bunch of stress, but its still going to keep some of its stores open in the United States. Most importantly, its going to keep its digital footprint. They are still going to be sent online. It is possible that the company could re emerge out of this as a leaner, meaner, company. Look, one of the reasons we saw this dramatic fall was because of the changing landscape of retail in america, and globally, but also, this company grew really, really fast in a very short amount of time. And itjust wasnt enough to sustain that growth. So presumably, its going to be losing a number of staff as well. Absolutely, theres going to be a lot of staff lay offs here in the us, and of course, globally. Its quote, cutting all of its stores in 40 quote, cutting all of its stores in a0 different countries. But it is possible to see it come out a little bit stronger. That said, there also is questions about how much demand there is for that kind of fast fashion. You know, that of course will remain to be seen. Samara, thank you very much indeed. Lets talk about volkswagen next. Volkswagen is back in court over its diesel emissions cheating scandal. This time its in germany. Jenny hill has the details. A70,000 people who bought their cars and vans from what they thought was one of germanys most well loved and well trusted Motor Manufacturers have gone to court today to demand compensation from volkswagen. These people are saying we bought our vw is, ouraudis in people are saying we bought our vw is, our audis in good faith. But now we wa nt is, our audis in good faith. But now we want some money, because following that in mission scandal, we think they are not worth as much as they once were. Its a legal first for germany, the law changed towards the end of last year to allow this kind of Group Lawsuit to go ahead. Expect it to take a very long time. I got under way today, one of thejudges long time. I got under way today, one of the judges tried to plead to both sides to say, you know, lets come to some kind of settlement here. Its considered unlikely, cynics would say vw want to keep this going for as long as possible to try and avoid having to make any pay outs if the court rules against them. I think central really to this particular case is going to be the question of whether vw can be said to have caused harm. To these customers. Their lawyers argue that actually, thats not the case, because many of these vehicles are still being used and on the road. Many of the consumers who have brought this case say, of course, thats not the case at all, we are very worried about the depreciation of value of our cars. Thanks very much tojenny. Now, in a few minutes, when we come back after the break on outside source, we will be updating you on uk politics, as ever, theres plenty to talk about. The annual conservative Party Conference is going on. We have had some big headline policy announcements. We will go through those, and we also know the main opposition parties have been meeting to continue their efforts to stop a no deal brexit, and i will update you on that as well. Hello there. Parts of north america quite literally lea pfrogged from autumn into an early taste of winter. At the weekend, and you can see exactly where im talking about, by the blue tones on the air mass chart. The cold air spilling out of canada, and into parts of the northwest of the us. Now, it brought some snow, lets take a look at that in a little more detail. In parts of montana in a town called great falls, they literally had a great fall of snow, as much as ten inches falling on the saturday, and i understand to Higher Ground in montana, there was as much as 50 inches of snowfall. Now that storm is actually starting to ease away, and its pushing its way through the central plains, but behind it, still bitterly cold air. Theres another storm expected to move in from the specific pacific northwest, and that will bring yet more rain, and Higher Ground, it will bring some snow as well. Ahead of it though, little bit of breathing space with some drier brighter weather, some sunshine expected, but those temperatures are still struggling, in vancouver and seattle as well, those temperatures way down from where they should be, really, for it this time of year. Still some sunshine though across the california coastline. Now, this is storm nada thats making its impression felt across the west coast of mexico and the baja peninsula. Its going to bring a lot of heavy rain as it continues to move further north and inland. It will bring as much as may be ten inches of rainfall with huge storm surges, so that i could bring some localised flooding. At the same time, the typhoon continues to track its way north of taiwan, expected to make landfall during the later stages of monday into tuesday. Across the east coast of china, its the 18th storm in what has been a very active typhoon season. It will continue to track in a northerly direction, towards the korean peninsula, but it doesnt look as though its going to impact to significantly across japan, and that will be good news for the world cup that continues to take place. Moving away from asia, it certainly looks as though we will continue to see some sharper showers over the next few days. The best of the drier weather into beijing, top temperatures of 30 degrees, and much of china down into malaysia and indonesia, pretty quiet at the moment. This, well this is Hurricane Lorenzo, which is continuing to move towards the azores, expected to make landfall tuesday into wednesday. Generally, across europe, we have a bit of a north south divide at the moment. Much of the mediterranean is fine, settled, and sunny. Weather fronts moving their way across the uk into the low countries to france, to germany and poland. It will be wet and windy into scandinavia as well, but much of the mediterranean on tuesday, finance settled. If youve got friends and family here, we are likely to see temperatures into the high 30s. More details on the uk, coming up shortly. Take care. Hello, im ros atkins. This is outside source. Our lead story. Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman denies ordering the killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi. Translation absolutely not. This was a heinous crime, but i take full responsibility as a leader in saudi arabia, especially since it was committed by individuals working for the saudi government. One year on from the murder, the bbc hears from those whove listened to audio tapes that capture the moments leading up to the murder. Donald trump takes aim at the democrats in a series of angry tweets suggesting the congressional leader heading up the impeachment inquiry against him should be arrested for treason. The austrian election has seen Sebastian Kurz stay on as the worlds youngest leader, but it also punished the far right. The greens delivered their best result yet. Well have the analysis on that. Hong kong activists gear up for another day of rallies, on the day china marks 70 years of communist rule. For those of you counting, the brexit that land is getting very close. 31 days, one hour, 28 minutes and 27 seconds. Ive got updates from the opposition and the government. Before i get into that, a few things to bear in mind. Brexit is due to happen on 31 october. The uk government says it wants a deal with the eu, but would leave without one if need be. Parliament recently passed a law known as the benn act, which stipulates the government must ask for a brexit extension if no deal is in place by october 19. And borisjohnson insists he wont ever ask for that extension but says hell abide by the law. Which begs the question how . Heres the chancellor, sajid javid. Its not about getting around the law. I dont really want to discuss the detail of this law. Its a really fresh, new law, but we are also clear at all times, we, of course. Like any government, we absolutely observe the law. And that will be a factor in any decisions that we make. Earlier today, opposition parties met to discuss how to stop the uk leaving the eu without a deal in any circumstances. Jeremy corbyns labour is by far the biggest of those parties. Here he is. We will do all we can within the parliamentary scenario and within our own parties to prevent this country crashing out on the 31st of october without a deal. They agree on that. But there is disagreement among Opposition Mps over how to do that. The Scottish National party likes the idea of a vote of no confidence and then a temporary Prime Minister to ensure a brexit extension and a general election. One reason other parties arent going for this is they dont agree on who should be that temporary Prime Minister. Labour wants jeremy corbyn, the liberal democrats dont. Heres their leaderjo swinson. What is going to happen is that the party whips going to be meeting to plan out different scenarios, look at different options, including the possibility of an insurance option of a government of National Unity and including who might be able to lead such a government. As you can see, no agreement on who might leave that government if it comes to pass. Away from brexit, the conservatives have started laying out a range of policies. Sajid javid promised what he calls an infrastructu re revolution with an upgrade to roads, buses strategy and broadband. And he pledged to increase the National Living wage. This ambitious plan will bring the National Living wage up to £10. 50, giving a Million People a well earned pay rise to analyse all limits of these different stories, here is rob watson. Whats really fascinating as we are seeing this week a total transformation of the conservative party in two ways. It is worth remembering, it used to be a party that believed in membership of the european union. Now it is an out and out leave party, even if without a deal. Coming onto your point, the conservatives used to be the party of austerity and controlling the public finance. Now it is spend, spend, spend, and its a risky move. In this sense. The conservative party, they used to have their unique selling point, you might not like us very much but you can trust of the money in the economy. And now theyre talking spend, spend, and now that the conservative party backs brexit, as i say, quite a transformation. Couple of other things to ask you about. First of all, this cut one of the major talking points of the consummate of conference has been this article, an article by Charlotte Edwards in the sunday times the conservative conference. It alleges borisjohnson groped her and another woman a jenny at ata at a dinner party two decades ago. A conservative spoke and says thatis ago. A conservative spoke and says that is not true. And then there is this concerning the american businesswomanjennifer macklin. This concerning the american businesswoman jennifer macklin. She went on trade ships wall Boris Johnson was mayor of london and it is alleged she received several tripping due to herfriendship is alleged she received several tripping due to her friendship with mrjohnson. It is reported she is telling friends she had an affair with him. The Prime Minister denies he did anything wrong. Two distinct stories that which raised two distinct issues around potential inappropriate conduct. How do you assess the two of them . inappropriate conduct. How do you assess the two of them . I would just say this briefly. Youve got the number ten downing st denials. To those people who back brexit and who like borisjohnson as the leader of brexit, whatever they think about these allegations, theyjust tend to dismiss them as chaff, this is just trouble being made by people who would like to remain. I thing the other aspect to the story is whatever downing streets attempts or denials, hoping people willjust dismiss it all, it fits in with other problems for downing street in terms of potential problems that mr johnson has with women. And he was accused, he was basically seen as saying women mps worrying about death threats, he called it humbug, so death threats, he called it humbug, soi death threats, he called it humbug, so i thing there must be some concern down through the wall many leave voters will dismiss all this stuff is noise and, yes, we know borisjohnson. They stuff is noise and, yes, we know Boris Johnson. They must stuff is noise and, yes, we know borisjohnson. They must be a bit concerned when you dont want to alienate an entire group entire subsection of the population, half of it, women. Quite. Just a quick question about brexit. Weve got this month run in now until october 31, a possible scenario about to play out. What would you pick out for our viewers as what to watch out for . Goodness i have absolutely no idea. I ask myself virtually every hour of the day. As my friends and colleagues, he is definitely worry about this. What i would say is this, if a deal is not done with the you macro, is mrjohnson, the people around him de you really serious about taking without a deal . What i would say is, carry on watching us on bbc world news and hopefully will find out. This is interesting. The Daily Telegraph is reporting borisjohnson will reveal his final brexit plan to eu Leaders Within 2a hours. The telegraph knows about these things, the Daily Telegraph recently paying Boris Johnson as a columnist. That will come as a relief to them because they have been asking repeatedly in they have been asking repeatedly in the last few weeks, tell us exactly what you want to do. And then we can consider whether to do it or not. Borisjohnson consider whether to do it or not. Boris johnson attribute consider whether to do it or not. Borisjohnson attribute of backstop, the backstop, the issue, because within the Withdrawal Agreement which ensures there can ever be border checks on the border between Northern Ireland and the uk, the republic of ireland, mrjohnson says the backs of past ago and the eu says, if you could provide us with something which performs a simple but is not the precise same backstop, we will look at it. The telegraph is of the telegraph is right, we will find out in about 1a hours or so will find out in about 1a hours or so what mrjohnsons plan to replace the backstop, and. If an arrangement is noted by the 17th of october, you get to the point where the benn act kicks in. The Prime Minister has said he will not ask foran minister has said he will not ask for an extension, but mrjohn huh say he wants a deal and is at least going to put his cards on the table. Brexit, bear in mind, scheduled for october 31. At any deal the eu and borisjohnson october 31. At any deal the eu and Boris Johnson managed to october 31. At any deal the eu and borisjohnson managed to strike, it would still have to go through the house of commons. And given the current state of affairs there, not much is guaranteed. Nonetheless, could be an interesting point for hours. We will watch out for mr johnsons plans. Moving away from brexit for a minute. Its aam in hong kong. In a few hours, more pro democracy rallies are planned and theyll coincide with a range of events to mark the 70th anniversary of communist rule in china. These protests have been going for months now and the latest at the weekend ended in violence. This was sunday. Have a look at some of these pictures. You will see the umbrellas the protesters nearly always carry with them. This was sunday. And the clashes were some of the worst weve seen since the protest began. Riot Police Charged protesters, fired more than 300 rounds of tear gas and 300 rubber bullets. We think around 150 people were arrested, and you can see one of them here being pushed to the floor with his wrists tied. Two high profile activists were among those taken into custody and actually the violence went well into the night. All of this began with opposition to a now scrapped extradition bill but has morphed into a wider Anti Government movement. These protests continued today. These are pictures from a little bit earlier. Demonstrators formed a human chain and shouted free hong kong. They brought with them a stuffed toy pepe frog, a newfound symbol of the movement. Its important to note that hong kongs authorities have denied permission for tuesdays rally to take place. Police there also say they have intelligence that protesters are planning to set fire to ships and train stations actions they call more like terrorism. This is from a News Conference earlier. Translation after our analysis, were expecting the situation tomorrow to be very, very dangerous. Question is, is there any evidence protesters were claiming these kind of serious attacks. The bbcLaura Westbrook. The Police Obviously believe there are serious allegations here, but the protesters following the press conference actually question the intelligence and the source that the police got that intelligence from. You have the protesters questioning that, but i think this really shows is how worried the police are about these protests and embarrassing this very important holiday taking place ona very important holiday taking place on a tober one. We have seen the flag raising ceremony thats been held indoors, the fireworks cancelled, key roads will be shut, the mtr is going to be, key stations, closed as well. And over the weekend, we saw a different tactic used by the police. They fired tear gas and Water Cannons earlier, and they also have these mass arrests of about 1a0 people arrested for Unlawful Assembly or rioting, and that carries a pretty hefty sentence of up to ten years in prison. The police are very much, looking at this and they dont want to be embarrassed by protests on the day, and in china, it is seen as a day, and in china, it is seen as a day of celebration. But in hong kong, protesters are calling this a day of grief. Lets the difference between hong kong Mainland China. If this anniversary is proving controversial in hong kong, in Mainland China, youll see now such dissent. Celebrations marking 70 years of communist rule are already in full swing. This is in beijing earlier. On the eve of the anniversary, hundreds of politicians and Business Leaders gathered, including hong kongs chief executive carrie lam. President xi gave a toast. But as youll hear, the hong kong protests were on his mind. Translation we are confident that, with the full backing of the motherland and the concerted efforts of our fellow chinese in hong kong and macao, who love the motherland as well as their communities, hong kong and macao will prosper and progress alongside the mainland and embrace an even brighterfuture. Security has been tight in the lead up to national day. According to the guardian, rights activists have been put under surveillance or forcibly taken out of beijing to stop them from protesting. The intimidation has gone beyond china. In taiwan on sunday, masked men threw red paint at the singer and activist denise ho during a solidarity march. She fired back on twitter. She said we should not be stopped by foolish people in theirfoolish acts. When they try and haunt you, push back as hard as you can, she says. Heres Laura Westbrook again on some of other tactics being used against the protests. Revocations of permits has happen increasingly often the musso on saturday, with the protest from. On tuesday to mazzari. That has been revoked because of public safety. Were expecting a lot of people to turn out people do turn out in large numbers. What it does mean, though, is people, if they do turn out, that is people, if they do turn out, that is illegal and they carry these very hefty sentences of Unlawful Assembly, which carry heftyjail terms. You wont be surprised to know that the hong kong protests are not featuring heavily in Chinese Media coverage of the 70th anniversary. State owned china plus has this story highlighting carrie lams visit to beijing. All smiles in that image. The english language global times has a story about a Hong Kong Police officer being given a heros welcome in beijing. On weibo, people are sharing pictures of him, and calling him sir hong kong. All very positive, on the surface at least. Kerry allen is a china analyst for bbc monitoring. Before we get into the hong kong side of the story, just give me an idea of how big an occasion this 70th anniversary is in the Chinese Media. Its absolutely huge, and the official media would have been planning this for months literally. Theres lots of campaigns online really emphasising the love of china and this encompasses hong kong, macau, taiwan, and the government very keen to push this. Its been putting out a lot of hashtag campaigns in recent weeks, telling people to get out the chinese flag and to take to the streets and to show just how proud and to take to the streets and to showjust how proud they are of the nation, and they re just showjust how proud they are of the nation, and theyre just so showjust how proud they are of the nation, and theyrejust so much material related to the event. Theres going to be an official gala with dancing and singing. Its an event that everyone should be celebrating anna starts a seven day holiday in china emma would literally families can all get together and they can be happy because Chinese People dont often have a lot of quality time. Is in a 70 holiday every year orjust have a lot of quality time. Is in a 70 holiday every year or just for this particular anniversary . Every year. Ok. Its a big event every year. Ok. Its a big event every year and now theyve got the backdrop of these pressures in hong kong, so what degree the people in Mainland China find out about that . In recent weeks, china has been pushing the idea them and traders wearing black are hooligans and rioters, even using language like shades of terrorism. Another the anniversary, is the 1st of october in china, you will not see any mention of protesters whatsoever. Theres a strong emphasis on china and hong kong together as one, really, and theres been a nice little video of carrie lam arriving in beijing and taking selfies and smiling with passengers. Chinese people liberty bought into this and saying it just shows people liberty bought into this and saying itjust shows that people liberty bought into this and saying it just shows that she people liberty bought into this and saying itjust shows that she is a great leader who supports people in china, and shes doing a lot of good, because there has been the suggestion that xi jinpings not too happy with her because of what has been happening in hong kong but this is really consolidated the message that, on the contrary. He sees her asa that, on the contrary. He sees her as a strong leader and is going to keep her in place. Thank you very much indeed. Kerry is a chinese a nalyst much indeed. Kerry is a chinese analyst with bbc monitoring. This time tomorrow, we will see how the huge day has gone and we will keep you up to date with that. We will talk to you in a few minutes about austrian politics. Interesting dynamics. The far right has seen its vote plunge and the green party has got its best position. The analysis from there. The Health Secretary matt hancock says hes looking very seriously at making vaccinations compulsory for all School Children in england. Theres been a rise in the number of measles cases, and the latest figures show a fall in the take up of all routine jabs for under fives in the last year. Simonjones reports. So we just do about there. A massive drive is needed, according to the Health Secretary, to get more children vaccinated. He told an event at the conservative Party Conference that he is very worried. When we, the state, provide services to people, then its a two way street. Youve got to take your responsibilities too, so i think theres a very strong argument for having compulsory vaccinations for children, for when they go to school, because otherwise theyre putting other children at risk. Measles is a serious illness that can lead to an infection in the brain. Just over 90 of children aged two were vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella last year in england. Thats a drop from 91. 2 in the previous year. The World Health Organizations target is 95 , which scotland and Northern Ireland already achieve. Here at the department of health, there has been much discussion about what can be done to increase vaccination rates. The Health Secretary believes the public would back his idea and he says he has already taken legal advice from within government about how they might go about it. The British Medical Association has previously stopped short of calling for compulsory vaccinations. It wants adequate resources to make sure vaccination programmes reach those most in need, and a crackdown on social Media Companies who fail to stop the spread of false and misleading information. Simon jones, bbc news. This is outside source live from the bbc newsroom. Our lead story saudi arabias crown prince mohammad bin salman has denied ordering the murder of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi. He says it was a heinous crime committed by people working for his government. Lets turn to austrian politics. The conservatives there, led by Sebastian Kurz, have won a clear election victory. We have talked about on outside source the previous government collapsing because of mr kurzs coalition partners. The scandal had nothing to do with Sebastian Kurz but he could not maintain the government. Almost all the votes are counted. Sebastian kurzs Peoples Party has about 37 thats up on last time. His former coalition partners, the far right Freedom Party, has 16 a sharp fall. No doubt this is in part connected to this video published in may. The then leader of the Freedom Party was filmed promising government contracts to a woman posing as the niece of a russian oligarch. All of it means when the next coalition is formed, the far right wont be there. Also worth noting the Austrian Green Party hit 1a , its highest ever result in a general election. Tom langpaul is politics correspondent for National Austrian tv. It was clear that they would be losing votes in this election but they actually lost much more than they actually lost much more than they expected and much more than was predicted for them in the polls running up to the election. In one part, because of the things that theirformer chairman part, because of the things that their former chairman said in this video that was shot, and on the other hand because of allegations that only turned up a couple of days before the election and are accusing him of having privately spent money that was given to him by the party for representation. They even paid for representation. They even paid for his private homejust outside for representation. They even paid for his private home just outside of vienna, that has not turned in well with the voters of that party, and so with the voters of that party, and so they actually lost much more than was expected. And the greens, a much better night for them. Do you think they could end up in government . Better night for them. Do you think they could end up in government7m very likely possible. The greens we re very likely possible. The greens were only voted out of Parliament Less tha n were only voted out of Parliament Less than two years ago, in 2017, but they have had. They profited very much from their issues and their topics being trending topics for the last couple of months, the question of climate change, the question of climate change, the question of climate change, the question of environments, the question of environments, the question of environments, the question of how to deal with all those. Those are issues where they have very much credibility and that has brought them very much votes, especially from young people, but not only from young people, and have led them to the best result they have ever had nationwide. And quickly, tom, are you surprised Sebastian Kurz has done so well given the last government collapse because yellow is not very much a surprise. He has been it isnt is not very much a surprise. He has been it isnt not very much a surprise. There has been a surprise and how big the gap is between his Peoples Party and the second, the social democrats, and at first glance you can say hes in a very cultural position of being able to choose his coalition partner. If you look closely, each of those options have their own drawbacks and well see how that pans out. Thanks to tom andi see how that pans out. Thanks to tom and i will see you tomorrow at the same time. Bye bye. Hello there. Weve seen a lot of rainfall across the country the last two weeks, particularly england and wales, where weve seen lots of rivers breaking their banks and reaching very high levels. Flood warnings are in force for england and wales. We have dozens of them, in fact, each rain event continuing to exacerbate problems. The next rain event, this one, which has brought some torrential rain to parts of england and wales, will continue to dominate the scene through tuesday. The weather front bringing that rain on monday will be lying across parts of Northern Ireland, southern scotland and Northern England, gradually moving southwards away from scotland and Northern Ireland. The next issue well see is heavy, thundery showers across southern wales, central and southern england. These in their own right could be torrential and cause some flooding. Still quite mild across the south, 18 degrees or so, but north of that rain band, much cooler, low teens celsius, plenty of sunshine and a few showers, which will even have a wintry flavour over the grampians and the highlands. That colder, drier air will be moving south across the country, pushing the heavy showers and rain away from the south, so it will turn much colder by wednesday morning, a touch of air frost for Northern England and rural scotland. But its a settled picture around the middle part of the week. Thats because weve got this area of High Pressure pushing in from the west. It will be cold, though. These northerly winds will be dragging air down from the arctic, and that wind will be quite a feature across the north and the east of the country. Certainly, coastal areas could see a few showers and have that very cold, raw wind. Further south, the winds not quite as bad, and after that cold start, with plenty of sunshine well see temperatures reach around the mid teens celsius. But that will feel cooler than what weve been used to, even cooler than that further north. You can see the green tinge there, just about making double figures across the north of scotland. It is a brief cool spell, though, because we look to the atlantic. Now, this is Hurricane Lorenzo. It was a very powerful hurricane a few days ago. Its continued to weaken now as it pushes closer towards our shores. Now, many of the computer models are having issues at where this storm will end up. It looks like its going to mix in with a home grown area of low pressure, and i think the current thinking now is for it to push just to the west of the united kingdom, so it could bring Western Areas a spell of wind and rain. But it could be that it moves a bit further westwards, closer towards iceland, in which case we wont be affected by it. One thing were more certain about, though, is that this system is going to start to draw some milder air from the south west, pushing those arctic winds back in towards scandinavia. So, this is the picture for thursday at the moment. We do think that the remnants of Hurricane Lorenzo could affect parts of Northern Ireland or western britain with some stronger winds, outbreaks of pretty heavy rain. It could stay drier further east. It could do. And those temperatures will be on the rise. Certainly across southern areas, were looking at the mid to high teens celsius. Beyond thursday and friday, into the weekend and into next week, it looks like its going to stay unsettled across the north atlantic, with a series of low pressure systems which could affect the north and the west of the uk, whereas further south and east, its likely that it could stay a little bit more settled, thanks to High Pressure over the near continent. So it looks like its remaining unsettled beyond the weekend into next week as well. Wet and breezy in the north west thanks to those areas of low pressure and a better chance of staying drier in the south and the east. But theres still lots of uncertainty to this forecast, so keep watching. Tonight at ten, ministers say a Major Economic response might be needed in the event of a no deal brexit. The chancellor tells the conservative conference that brexit will happen on october 31st, and unveils some new spending pledges. This ambitious plan will bring the National Living wage up to £10. 50, giving a Million People a well earned pay rise. Meanwhile, the Prime Minister, meeting workers in manchester, has again denied allegations of misconduct with a female journalist. Well have the latest from the conservative conference, as opposition parties at westminster confirm they will not call for a vote of no confidence in the government this week. Also on the programme. The bbc has reversed a decision to partially uphold a complaint against the breakfast presenter Naga Munchetty, following