Coins in a field in somerset. Hello, welcome to the programme. Were live until 11 this morning. So what do you make of borisjohnson suspending parliament . Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about we will be getting plenty of political reaction to the breaking news, which could have a Significant Impact on what happens in regards to brexit and whether it means the government can take the uk out of the eu without a deal on the 31st october. We can speak to snp leader. In fact, october. We can speak to snp leader. Infact, we october. We can speak to snp leader. In fact, we are going to speak to joe cherry, the leader. In fact, we are going to speak tojoe cherry, the leader of the snp shortly for her reaction. First, all of the news. That developing story is the top news so that developing story is the top news so far today. The government is expected to Prorogue Parliament for five weeks, shortly after mps returned to work in Early September before holding the next queens speech on october the 14th. This means that mps are unlikely to have the time to pass any laws that could stop the Prime Minister taking the uk out of the eu without a deal in place. The queens speech, when the government sets out its future plans, will take place just three days before the last Eu Council Meeting on the 17th of october. The uk is due to leave the eu at the end of october. A woman who says she was a victim of the convicted us paedophilejeffrey epstein, and was forced into a sexual encounter with the duke of york, has urged the prince to come clean about what he knows. Virginia Roberts Giuffre spoke to reporters outside a court in new york. It was after a hearing for alleged victims of epstein, who took his own life in prison earlier this month. Prince andrew denies the claims made against him. 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Health, schools and the police are all expected to receive a funding boost. But mrjavid says any departments expecting a blank cheque will be sorely disappointed. Good news for red wine lovers it could be healthy for your stomach, according to british researchers. The team from Kings College london found that micronutrients in red wine could increase the healthy mix of bacteria in the gut, and just one glass a fortnight was enough to make a difference. But thats not an excuse to binge, the study says. That is a summary of the main news. Back to you. The breaking news is of course going to be dominating now, over the course of the next hour, as we get political reaction to the news that the government is expected to seek an extended suspension of parliament, starting in two weeks time, head of the queens speech on the 14th of october. Labours deputy leader, has described the move as an utterly scandalous affront to democracy. Potentially the dates are that parliament would return next monday and then be suspended from the 9th of september, the queens speech then being held on the 14th of october, and then the brexit deadline is the 31st of october. So, it leaves the question, does it leave those who are opposed in the commons to a no deal brexit much time to do anything about it . It is what they were discussing yesterday. We can talk now to the snp mpjoanna cherry. Thank you very much for joining us. Ian blackford for the snp, the representative in westminster, was at that meeting yesterday. Today, we havejust had the news of the prorogation of parliament. How do you react . |j think parliament. How do you react . think it is a constitutional outrage, and profoundly undemocratic. What it means now is that its more important than ever that its more important than ever that we put Party Politics aside and members of parliament focus on how we can use the time we have next week to try and prevent Boris Johnson from subverting democracy. We must remember that what is clear is that there is a majority against leaving the European Union with a no deal brexit in the house of commons. That is what borisjohnson is trying to get round. What he is doing is profoundly undemocratic. There is a real question over whether what he is doing is constitutional and lawful. I am a lead petitioner in a case being brought by 75 members of parliament and peers in scottish courts to seek and peers in scottish courts to seek a ruling that it is unlawful to suspend parliament for this purpose, to force through a no deal brexit. I have been in a Conference Call this morning with my legal team, to see if we can speed up the hearing to the 6th of september, and get this issue before the courts speedily, so the court can determine whether what borisjohnson is the court can determine whether what Boris Johnson is up the court can determine whether what borisjohnson is up to is lawful or not. I have to say that i find it very concerning that the queen has been put in such a difficult position. Its quite clear that the privy councillors that are going to balmoral, have they been told . As far as balmoral, have they been told . As farasi balmoral, have they been told . As faras i am balmoral, have they been told . As far as i am aware, they havent. I was speaking to one last night he was speaking to one last night he was unaware of this. Obviously there are was unaware of this. Obviously there a re lots of was unaware of this. Obviously there are lots of elements to talk about, lets pick up the first of all the Legal Process you have mentioned. It is understood the government thinks it is unsafe legal ground because it isa it is unsafe legal ground because it is a prorogation in orderfor the queens speech to be held. And therefore it is effectively covered by that. What is your view of that . We are looking at that very carefully. It has been sprung on us this morning, so they will have to look at this as the facts are now. I cant give you a concluded view on that just now. But cant give you a concluded view on thatjust now. But i am speaking as a politician, rather than a lawyer, and this seems to me like something that would happen in a tinpot dictatorship, not in a democracy. Of course, speaking of the Scottish National party mps, it does put at the forefront of our mind in scotla nd the forefront of our mind in scotland how much longer we are prepared to tolerate this. If Boris Johnson can close down the Westminster Parliament on a whim, why cant we close down the Holyrood Parliament on a whim . Of course, it has a majority of members who want a second referendum on independence. The polls show that the majority of scots wa nt the polls show that the majority of scots want one, and the majority would vote yes in a second independence referendum. So, the scottish constitutional position is put to the forefront for these democratic manoeuvrings by Boris Johnson. In terms of what might happen in parliament, there was that meeting yesterday with opposition politicians, led byJeremy Corbyn, to talk about what a united position might look like for those politicians who want to stop brexit. What has happened today, does that mean that the only option that can be guaranteed to prevent no deal brexit is now calling a vote of no confidence and having an interim government . Well, that is something that will have to be looked at carefully today. The good news is that yesterdays meetings, there we re that yesterdays meetings, there were a number of meetings, including the mps came together at church house to make the declaration, and i was one of those mps yesterday, the fa ct was one of those mps yesterday, the fact those meetings went very well yesterday, there was a real cross party yesterday, there was a real cross party accord that the priority must be to protect all the nations of these islands from the disastrous economic consequences of a no deal brexit. I think that is the good news. Clearly, a plan was formed yesterday by our leader at westminster, ian blackford, and others. We would look at the question of pushing through legislation next week. That plan may require review in light of todays events. Ive been speaking to ian this morning and he will be speaking to other Opposition Party leaders. I have Dominic Grieve being interviewed on your programme earlier. The position of tory rebels such as dominic will be absolutely vital in trying to prevent Boris Johnson with getting away from this affront to democracy. Joanna cherry, the snp, thank you very much. We are expecting to hear from the snp, thank you very much. We are expecting to hearfrom boris the snp, thank you very much. We are expecting to hear from borisjohnson in the next five minutes or so. We will you that as soon as it happens. First, lets go tojonathan blake, oui first, lets go tojonathan blake, our political correspondent, in westminster. Well, this was a bolt from the blue. There has been a lot of speculation around prorogation, but when the announcement came out, when the news started to emerge, it was causing quite a shock and stir . Yes, a bit of a bombshell this morning from downing street with the news that the queen will be asked to suspend or prorogue, as it is officially called, parliament on the 10th of september, which is a week after m ps 10th of september, which is a week after mps are due to come back next tuesday. What this does is give, as you have been hearing, opponents of a no deal brexit, labour party, the Scottish National party, the lib dems and others, it gives them less time to try to force the government to ask for an extension to the Brexit Process, which of course they dont want to do, or somehow use parliamentary procedure to avoid a no deal brexit. The government is making the case that it wants to have a queens speech, which usually happens every year, but we havent had one now for something closer to two years, had one now for something closer to two yea rs, to had one now for something closer to two years, to set out its agenda for the next parliamentary session. What bills it would like to put to parliament, what changes it would like to make, where it would like to spend money on schools, police, hospitals and the other things they like to talk about. It is usual for parliament to be suspended before a queens speech to give the government time to prepare it, and mps time to debate it when they come back. Of course, here, the timing is everything. It may be an attempt to reset the domestic agenda, but it is undoubtedly also a tactic to tie the hands and stymie those Opposition Mps and some on the conservative benches as well who have been looking for ways to force the government to extend the Brexit Process and avoid leaving the eu without a deal. Political reaction coming in from all sides, with mps still away on their summer break, scrambling to react to this. A lot of people are going to be very upset and very angry about it. What it does is limit the time scale, as i say, for Opposition Mps to manipulate a parliamentary procedure and try to force the governments hand somehow. It doesnt necessarily stop them, but it makes it more difficult. I want to bring in our royal correspondence jonny difficult. I want to bring in our royal correspondencejonny dymond, whojoins us. The snp, joanna cherry for the snp, saying this puts the queenin for the snp, saying this puts the queen in a difficult position. mean, ithink queen in a difficult position. mean, i think the queen is in a more difficult position than she would be in normal times. But remember, first of all, she has been a very conservative monarch when it comes to political interventions. Secondly, there is precedent and this nation runs on precedent, whether it is our common law system, oui whether it is our common law system, our political system, there is precedent for proroguing before a queens speech. That is why, in stark and perhaps brutal political terms, this looks like a clever move, because instead of saying i wa nt to move, because instead of saying i want to pirogue for a month for the nakedly obvious reason of getting rid of Parliament Whilst we go through a no deal brexit or whatever it might be, you can say we always pirogue before the queens speech. In that sense, it lifts the pressure, if there was pressure, on the queen. To some degree, in some peoples eyes, it depoliticise is it. Clearly it doesnt and a lot of eyes, and we have seen that from the reaction we have been getting. The fundamental is that the queen asked is on the advice of ministers, particularly on the advice of her Prime Minister. While many, many people may be upset that parliament is not going to sit for such an extended period at such a time, precedent is on the side of those making the decision, and the Prime Ministers wish, the Prime Ministers wish, the Prime Ministers writ is that which runs, the idea is that these things are settled at the palace of westminster, not in buckingham palace. Therefore, the queen has very little wiggle room, really, to make any kind of political decision. It is unlikely she will say no . M is impossible for her to say no at this point. If you think the policies closed on issues surrounding the royal family, policies closed on issues surrounding the royalfamily, on political issues, if you would call them that, it is sealed tight. But i think it is enormously unlikely that the government, that the administration would have made this announcement without there having been soundings between the Prime Ministers private office and the private secretary. A very informal sounding, certainly, just a conversation or some kind of thing, but there is no way that the queen is going to say no now. Lets go back to jonathan blake. Jonathan, is is going to say no now. Lets go back tojonathan blake. Jonathan, is this going to unite Opposition Mps now in coming up with a swiftjoint position . Because there was that meeting yesterday and there has been disagreement between them about what might happen in the event of a vote of no confidence. Might happen in the event of a vote of noconfidence. I think it will be a kick up the backside for labour, the snp, the liberal democrats and others in parliament who have, as we have seen over the summer, really struggled to together behind one Clear Strategy to try to avoid a no deal brexit, which is a common aim that they have. But they have been split apart by political differences. We have seen the lib dems particularly not very keen to come behind Jeremy Corbyn as a temporary Prime Minister following a vote of no confidence in the government, which is one weapon, if you like, at the opposition parties disposal. What this decision by the government to suspend parliament, just a week after it comes back from its summer break will do, is make that option more likely. Because it is possible, within a week, perhaps, to get some form of legislation, ta ke to get some form of legislation, take control of the order of business in the house of commons and get something through that would force the government to ask the eu force the government to ask the eu foran force the government to ask the eu for an extension to the Brexit Process. But it would be very, very difficult to do it in that time and potentially unlikely for it to succeed. A vote of no confidence is a much more blunt, a much more swift approach to bringing down the government, if you like. And it would potentially be debated on one day and then held the next. But as we have seen, based on what the opposition parties have had to say in recent days and weeks, it is far from clear whetherJeremy Corbyn, where he to go down that route, has the numbers to win that vote of no confidence in the government and form my temporary administration of his own, because he would need all Opposition Mps to vote for it, and some conservatives as well. And when you factor in the fact that there are some labour mps who dont like the idea at all because they want to, those representing the various, they want to make sure brexit happen sooner or they want to make sure brexit happen sooner or later, then it begins to look very, very difficult forJeremy Corbyn to win that. What this decision will do this morning to the dynamics will be very interesting to see. And i think as we have seen, Opposition Mps and Opposition Party leaders reacting angrily to this decision, they will have to galvanise their plan, if they have any hope of influencing the Brexit Process and avoiding a no deal brexit within that a very narrow window now of a week when parliament returns next tuesday. Jonathan blake, thank you very much. We are going to be speaking to anna soubry mp, the former tory mp, turned leader of chains uk, the independent group, we will hear from her. She has said it is outrageous that parliament will be shut down at a moment of crisis as we face crashing out of the uk telegraph vat without a deal and for which there is no mandate. A ruthless Prime Minister, elected by less than 100,000 conservative members. E mail yourmp 100,000 conservative members. E mail your mp now 100,000 conservative members. E mail yourmp now and 100,000 conservative members. E mail your mp now and demand parliament sits. That is what she is suggesting. Mark on twitter says possibly the most disgusting, cowardly act by politicians i shall ever see. This must be stopped. Adrian says this is called taking back control and governing ourselves, is it . Very dangerous. Scott, so we are taking back control by allowing a Prime Minister elected by allowing a Prime Minister elected by 0. 001 of the population to push through a situation nobody voted for. Another, great news boris, its about time something was done, we voted to leave three years ago. Votes decide, a vote is a vote. The brexit party is soon to rectify the traitorous mps of britains ways. If you think you are british, prove it and accept how the Voting System works in the united kingdom. Shayna, excellent news, well past time, time to respect the vote of 2016 and fully leave the eu as promised. Borisjohnson has fully leave the eu as promised. Boris johnson has been fully leave the eu as promised. Borisjohnson has been speaking and we can hear what he has said. As i said on the steps of downing street, we are not going to wait until october the 31st before getting on with our plans to take this country forward. This is a new government, with a very exciting agenda to make our streets safer, its important we bring Violent Crime down, we need to invest in our fantastic nhs, we need to level of Education Funding across the country, we need to invest in the country, we need to invest in the infrastructure. That is going to ta ke the infrastructure. That is going to take the country forward for decades. And we need to deal with the cost of living, moving to a high wage, high productivity economy, which i think is what this country needs to be. And to do that, we need new legislation, weve got to be bringing forward new and important bills. And that is why we are going to have a queens speech, and we are going to do it on october the 14th. And weve got to move ahead now with a new legislative programme. Prime minister, to do that queens speech, you will need to Prorogue Parliament for several days. Your critics will say this is an insult to democracy and denying the mps the times they need to debate and possibly vote on brexit. Well, that is completely untrue. If you look at what we are doing, we are bringing forward a new legislative programme on crime, hospitals, making sure we have the Education Funding that we need. And there will be ample time, on both sides of that crucial october the 17th summit, ample time in parliament for mps to debate. To debate the eu, brexit and all of the other issues. Prime minister, you seem other issues. Prime minister, you seem to have an ambitious domestic agenda, your government does not have a majority, even with the dup it only barely had a majority. Should we take from this that you are planning a general election before the end of next year . No, what you should take from this is that we are doing exactly what i said we would do on the steps of downing street, that we must get on with our legislative domestic agenda. People will expect that. We need to get on with the stuff that Parliament Needs to approve, and tackling crime, building infrastructure, technology, levelling up education. And reducing the cost of living. That is why we need a queens speech. And we are going to get on with it. Will you know by the 14th of october if youre going to get ideal . The outlook could be quite different whether you do or whether you dont. What have you got to say to the public that may be concerned . We need to get on with our domestic agenda and that is why we are announcing a queens speech for october the 14th. Boris johnson, speaking just a short while ago about why he is doing what he is doing, which is to Prorogue Parliament, to ask the queen today for parliament to be prorogued from a week after parliament returns next week. The 2nd of september. Basically, parliament will set from the second to the 9th of september and then well be prorogued until the queens speech, which would be held on the 14th of october. He denied it was anti democratic. He said the whole reason for it is because the government wants to get on with its new political agenda, talking about education, about the nhs. He said we have got a very exciting agenda and we want to get on with it. He said there will be ample time on both sides of the 17th of october eu summit for mps to debate all of the issues. Of course, the deadline for brexit is the 31st of october. Basically two weeks after that eu summit, until that deadline. And whether there is a prospect of any sort of a new agreement coming out of it is still questionable after the g7 summit, borisjohnson questionable after the g7 summit, Boris Johnson saying questionable after the g7 summit, borisjohnson saying he was marginally more optimistic that there might be a new agreement. The governments position has been to say that the backstop, the controversial backstop which is basically the insurance against a ha rd basically the insurance against a hard border in ireland, in the event of brexit, he said that cannot be pa rt of brexit, he said that cannot be part of the agreement. And there has been some discussion around what an alternative might look like. We can talk now to the former tory mp and now leader of change uk, anna soubry, what is your reaction to this . It is disgraceful, unprecedented. Our country is in the biggest crisis since the second world war. As we all know, Boris Johnson is determined we are going to crash out of the European Union without a deal. And we also know that whenever parliament has had the opportunity to vote, we have been absolutely. Not as one, but the majority have been absolutely clear that we do not support leaving the European Union without a deal. And borisjohnson European Union without a deal. And Boris Johnson knows European Union without a deal. And borisjohnson knows that. So what he is doing as he is suspending parliament when it should be sitting, because he is determined to do something for which he has no mandate at all. Remember, Boris Johnson was elected by less than 100,000 members of the conservative party. Whatever your views on brexit, the one thing we know for a fa ct brexit, the one thing we know for a fact is that people like him told us during the Referendum Campaign that our country would not leave the European Union without a deal. And thatis European Union without a deal. And that is what he is attempting to do. He is intending to keep your viewers, elected representatives, out of all this by proroguing parliament. And he is abusing our queen as well and the position, she is put in a very difficult position. He said the reason for doing this is because basically the government wa nts to because basically the government wants to get on with the domestic agenda, not talking about brexit. Lie there is a precedent for parliament not sitting in the run up toa parliament not sitting in the run up to a queens speech. Does that give him, therefore, justification for this move, which he also says, actually, there will be time to debate brexit before and after the eu summit . No, that is the very clever spin that is being put on this by mrjohnson and his own elected advisers. And nobody, as i am sure will be the case, should be fooled by it. Nobody should be fooled by it. Nobody should be fooled by it. This is nothing to do with putting forward an agenda. Our country is in a crisis. We face the biggest decision that we have taken since the second world war. He is shutting down parliament, deliberately, to stop peoples democratically elected representatives doing ourjob. Scrutinising the preparedness or otherwise for no deal, and doing what many of us believe is absolutely right, which is to stop our country from crashing out of the European Union without a deal. That is why he is doing it. And he is making up all this nonsense. Is there anything that mps opposed to this can do . Of course. We have already had conversations as a group of people from all Political Parties with different views on brexit. Thats very important, because there are many conservatives who voted for theresa mays deal, who believe we should leave the European Union with a deal, who absolutely are joining forces with those of us who wanted to go back and have a peoples vote, but didnt vote for theresa mays deal. So we come to it from different sides of the argument. But on this we are as one, that it would be wrong for our country to crash out without a deal. And its imperative that, as members of parliament, we do ourjob and sit on the half of all of our constituents, and we are there in parliament. But what. Can and we are there in parliament. But what. Can you do anything to stop the prorogation . There is nothing mps can do . You may well be right. But i am privy to conversations which, as much as i want to help, i am not going to disclose, with great respect. Of course. Just picking up respect. Of course. Just picking up on that, obviously we want to know exactly what those conversations are, i understand you saying you wont be drawn on it, but isnt the only way that mps that do not want to see Boris Johnsons course of action unfolding, the only way to guarantee that not happening is for those opposed to it to unite, have a vote of no confidence and get behind an interim government . No. What is the other option . Legislation, that is exactly what we agreed yesterday when we met with Jeremy Corbyn, and Jeremy Corbyn accepts that legislation is the way. Has not been thwarted by what happened today . There is still time . How can it work . Im confident it can work. That would require action on monday, when mps return . Forgive me, we come back on tuesday. On tuesday, that would require action immediately . It may well be. The time now is critical. And what i would say to my former conservative collea g u es would say to my former conservative colleagues who have often argued that now is not the time, lets wait, lets wait, itllall define and get sorted out, i think that they now see how ruthlessjohnson and his advisers are. The clock is ticking and now is the time for us to stop this nonsense. Of course, the other thing that we will have to be very clear about is that i know that the british people are fed up to the back teeth with this whole wretched business. And imagine how british businesses are feeling with this great uncertainty. We do need to bring this matter to a conclusion. I know some would say lets vote for a deal and leave the European Union. My solution is the solution which i have believed in for a number of years, that the matter must go back to the british people by way of a peoples vote. Put theresa mays deal, or if boris thinks he can get a super deal, put it to the people and let them decide. If they vote for it, that is the end of it. We leave. If they see the end of it. We leave. If they see the best deal is the current deal we have at the European Union, that is the end of this wretched matter that has blighted our country for over three years. You are talking about what the british people want, we are getting arguments from both sides on social media and one anonymous text says thank you, boris, from 17. 4 Million People who voted to leave. The remaining piece wouldnt pass a deal if it had bells on it. They talk about democracy, we havent seen any from remainers in three years. Ashcroft says i am Glad Parliament will be suspended, it remained as trying to create a government of National Unity to frustrate peoples vote. This one says it is a good way to stop career politicians from crushing the will of the people. Well, that is all a load of absolute nonsense. That is their views. Hang on, just a minute, do forgive me, people of course are entitled to all these opinions, to their opinion, but it must be based on fact, so lets go to the facts. 17. 4 Million People did not vote for us to crash out of the European Union without a deal. They were told by the leave campaign that we would not leave until we had a deal. Secondly, the reason theresa mays deal didnt go through parliament was because a hell of a lot of members of the conservative party, hardened brexiteers, didnt vote for mrs mays deal. The dup didnt vote for mrs mays deal. That is why didnt go through parliament, because the hardline brexiteers go through parliament, because the ha rdline brexiteers didnt go through parliament, because the hardline brexiteers didnt support it, they sues why it is important to establish the facts like this is why. Also, it is really very important to say this. The people who are coming together to stop no deal, as we did before parliament rose in the summer, include people like the former chancellor, philip hammond, other senior members of mrs mays government, all of whom voted on three occasions for us to leave the European Union with a deal. They are hardly remainers. And we may yet get a deal, how different it will be to the one theresa may had is unclear, but there is talk about their potentially being movement on their potentially being movement on the backstop. If there is a deal, should mps supported . the backstop. If there is a deal, should mps supported . I wont support anything that would put the jobs of my constituents at risk. I will support something on the basis it goes to the british people for their final say it goes to the british people for theirfinal say and it goes to the british people for their final say and i it goes to the british people for theirfinal say and i am very happy to rehearse the arguments about why thatis to rehearse the arguments about why that is the right thing to do because, as people now understand what brexit means, i think it is really important it goes back to the british people but there is Something Else which is incredibly important and all of this. Even if borisjohnson gets important and all of this. Even if Boris Johnson gets his important and all of this. Even if borisjohnson gets his own way and he Suspends Parliament and we are not allowed to meet and, indeed, we do crash out of the European Union without a deal at the end of october, if people think that is the end of it, then they are hugely mistaken. Not because of the likes of me, but because we dont have what we need, which is a trading deal and all of the other important matters like security, with the European Union. So the idea that we crash out and everybody says, that is it, thank god for that, this is going to rumble on for years and yea rs. Going to rumble on for years and years. A clear majority of mps got us years. A clear majority of mps got us into the position of facing the deadlines. Originally the march deadline, by voting for article 50. Do forgive me, the point im trying to make is this, we need a deal, we need deals on security, we need deals on climate change. We need a trading deal. I understand that but just in terms of honouring where we are in this position. Let me make my point. Article 50 was triggered bya my point. Article 50 was triggered by a majority of mps, there was the original deadline of 31st of october. Something mps knew was coming, then it was delayed. Boris johnson said it cannot go beyond that. It is mps that put us in this position of being faced with this deadline. I dont agree with you but im going to make my point, because it is really important, it is so important. We have to work out a trading relationship, a deal with the European Union. Those negotiations on that havent even begun. And the idea that we crash out without a deal and that that is the end of it and, as i say, your viewers are saying, thank god for that, but that view is for the birds because we have all of those things to sort out. We were told by people like borisjohnson that getting that deal with the European Union would be the easiest deal in the history of deals. We were told it would take a matter of days. We have been at it for three years and it hasnt happened. Not because of the frustrations by remain mps but because it is damn difficult, because it is damn difficult, because that is the nature of modern trading deals and their relationship with the European Union and the point im trying to make is this , people who think lets just get it all over and done with, letsjust leave, and that will be the end of the matter, they need to be disabused of that because this matter will rumble on for years because we havent still worked out the final relationship in trading. Anna soubry, thank you very much. Just a few more comments, stan on the e mail, i feel outraged just a few more comments, stan on the e mail, ifeel outraged by this thread to our democracy. I have never protested in my life but at the age of 62, i will take to the streets. Diana says the uk is now an autocracy not a democracy, the queen should not be asked to make such decisions, shocking news. Shown on text says we live in a fascist state where democracy is abandoned, replaced by lies and despotic pronouncements. This is what my grandfather fought against, not four. Thank you for your comments, to keep them coming in. We are going to continue with reaction to the news that the government is asking the queen to Prorogue Parliament to make way for queen speech on the 14th of october. We will move away from that subject just for october. We will move away from that subjectjust for a october. We will move away from that subject just for a moment. The way in which a relationship that ends in murder develops can be predicted, and perhaps stopped, according to new research out today. Around 100 women and 30 men are killed by a partner or former partner every year. Drjane Monckton Smith from the university of gloucestershire looked at almost 400 cases and, in her paper, she says that there are eight steps that are often seen in the lead up to these murders including fast moving relationships, coercive control, violence, stalking and then planning a killing. Lets talk to drjane Monckton Smith who is behind the research. And Frank Mullane runs the charity advocacy after fatal Domestic Abuse or aafda. His sister and her son were murdered by her estranged husband in 2003. And professor clive ruggles, whose daughter alice was murdered by a former boyfriend that had been stalking her. Welcome, thank you all of you. Jane, first of all, tell us about the patterns you have seen and how predictable potentially these murders are. We have known for a long time that these are probably the most predictable homicides that there are, but we keep thinking and being told that they are spontaneous, that a red mist comes down, that they are almost accidental, but the research that i have done certainly absolutely refute that and says that most of them are surrounded with coercive control and are planned. Coercive control and are planned. Coercive control is something that has only relatively recently started to be recognised and understood. Yes, it certainly is and i think it wasnt that long ago that it was kind of describe for us and given a name. The patterns have always been there but we have got something to hang it on now, we have got something to think about and coercive control is at the centre of all Domestic Abuse, really, and it is certainly the most significantly predictable homicide. Frank, how important is it, as far as you are concerned, in being able to look at what is going on and potentially safeguard people . This is critical and i think this is really terrific research because, for the first time, we have seen it laid out in a way that is accessible to people. It is a really terrific model showing the sequence and what is exciting for me is the potential prevention opportunities that exist here for the safeguarding agencies that we all put our trust in to try to avert a serious crime. So, for example, if police, probation, etc, are observing where serial abusers are observing where serial abusers are on this model, it can lead to appropriate prevention opportunities. For example, disruption opportunities by the police. They already do that with what they term as criminals engaged in inquisitive crime, burglary, they will get in the burglars phase, what are you doing today . What clothes are you wearing . We see that sometimes with Domestic Abusers but no where near as much as we should. Jane, we often hear about cases where somebody has been raising concerns and it sadly ends in the worst possible way and it looks like there were steps that could have been taken to prevent it. What is happening currently . been taken to prevent it. What is happening currently . I think we have learned that there are risk markers and they havent always been taken seriously, they havent been recognised as risk markers in the past but i think with this model and thinking about coercive control, they have become more visible. Thinking about coercive control, they have become more visiblem thinking about coercive control, they have become more visible. It is or was going to be controversial, isnt it, taking action before something has happened . It is easy to look back and say we could have foreseen that, but if something hasnt actually happened, how do you protect somebody . Well, i think things are a lot easier, actually, because coercive control is a criminal pattern now. You know, the government dont put legislation in for nothing, it has become a criminal because it is linked to serious harm. So there are things the police can do before somebody has, you know, been hit or abused in that way. Clive, your daughter alice was murdered by her ex boyfriend. When you hearjane talking about the patterns they are looking at, does that chime with what you knew of what was going on with your daughter . It is scaryjust how much it chimes. Basically, alices story fits with janes stages at all stages. The stage i, where there was a previous history of offending. The coercive control that happened within their relationship, pushing their relationship forward too fast. He was talking about buying a house and they had only been going out three or four weeks and then after she found out he had been Double Crossing her and she cut off the relationship, that is when it turned to stalking and he bombarded her with text messages, with other things, that the emotional blackmail, i will kill myself if you dont come back to me, all of these we re dont come back to me, all of these were building up. By the time alice we nt were building up. By the time alice went to the police with this, and she left it far, far too late of course, because she didnt realise what danger she was in, the police didnt recognise. She was already at stage five or six very clearly of janes eight stages and they crime did as harassment, not stalking and without fear and within the next week, the fact that they had issued a pin notice, Something Police forces have now abandoned, against him, that was a trigger in itself and we believe that trigger sent him onto the later six and seven he started planning, we know he planned it and a week later, he killed her. If the police had been known and trained in these stages, they could have acted very, very differently and we believe that may be the outcome could have been very different. Frank, you have looked at various domestic homicide reviews, how often do you see the pattern . have read about 650 domestic homicide patterns in my role of assessing these with the home office and of course i have seen hundreds in my role in this charity. I see a really close link, as clive has described, in alices case. I am seeing this time and again in my reviews and the distance of time travelling along these stages varies between these homicides but what doesnt vary, quite often, is the fa ct doesnt vary, quite often, is the fact that they do travel. So what is exciting for me, ijust want to say that again, is the opportunities for safeguarding professionals to do what we know theyjoin these agencies to do, to make our lives safer. I work with fathers and mothers who are devastated by these crimes, who do what you expected a liberal democracy, which is to uphold the rule of law and ask these people to keep us safe. This research gives them an opportunity to do that. Thank you all very much for joining to do that. Thank you all very much forjoining us. Lets go back to the announcement that the government is suspected to suspend parliament ahead of a queens speech on the 14th of october, which could deny mps to time to try and stop i no deal brexit. We can talk now to tom harwood from the guido fawkes website. Thank you forjoining us, the political website, guido fawkes. What is your reaction to this . This seems like very good news, it is what brexiteers up and down the country have been hoping for, it seems like we have a Prime Minister who is on our side, willing to take on those vested interests in parliament, that coalition of politicians trying to frustrate the will of the people and a Prime Minister who is ready to get on with the domestic agenda and i think that is what a lot of people in the country have been crying out for in a long time. This has been the longest parliamentary session for quite some time, it is almost three yea rs quite some time, it is almost three years without a new queens speech, so years without a new queens speech, so being able to have that short prorogation, the new queens speech, setting out a new domestic agenda but also limiting the time for silly games to be played in parliament, seems like a very sensible thing to do at this stage. There are of course some who would say this is a game and this is also anti democratic, a Prime Minister who was elected by a small number of people in the scheme of things, members of the tory party, doing something that prevents parliamentary scrutiny. Anti democratic . Parliamentary scrutiny. Antidemocratic . It is hardly anti democratic. If parliament wants to, it could vote no confidence in the Prime Minister as soon as parliament returns. Parliament will be sitting for many, many days before the 31st of october deadline, both before and after prorogation, so both before and after prorogation, so there is time for parliament to scrutinise, time for parliament to play some games if they want to but not as much time as before and, crucially, there is now an impetus to get on with that domestic agenda which is what people up and down the country really which is what people up and down the cou ntry really wa nt which is what people up and down the country really want to see. The message of the leave campaign was ta ke message of the leave campaign was take back control. When mps are basically being made to sit on their hands for a period of time in the run up to one of the most crucial moments of course in our history, that deadline on the 31st of october, is that taking back control . Absolutely, it will enable us control . Absolutely, it will enable us to take back control. This prorogation is shorter than the prorogation is shorter than the prorogation thatjohn major went into at the end of his term as Prime Minister. Various Prime Ministers throughout history have done this, it is not a new or novel idea. Clement attlee did it when he was putting forward his new raft of nationalisation reforms. There is plenty of precedent for Something Like this to be done and it will enable us to take back control, as you rightly say, over our laws, our money, our borders, ourtrade, take back control over a whole raft of new policies in our domestic and International Economy and that can make everyone in this country better off down the line but we first need to get over that brexit hurdle and this news today will make it all the more likely that we do. Tom harwood from guido fawkes, thank you. Lets talk to the former deputy leader of the labour party Dane Margaret beckett, joining us on the line. What is your reaction . beckett, joining us on the line. What is your reaction . I have seldom heard such a bunch of sanctimonious cla ptra p heard such a bunch of sanctimonious cla ptrap as you just heard such a bunch of sanctimonious claptrap as you just had from that young man and as for citing the president of prorogation from people like clement attlee, Boris Johnson has been in parliament as Prime Minister for, has been in parliament as Prime Ministerfor, what, 48 hours . And now he is going to try and make sure parliament doesnt sit for weeks . I have never heard anything. And the notion that that should be defended as taking back control, yes, that is right, it is taking back control into the hands of a government governing without parliament. It is not unprecedented in our history that a government should try to do it but the last time, it ended in a civil war. If mps dont like it, we we re civil war. If mps dont like it, we were hearing from tom harwood, they can have a vote of no confidence straightaway and see what happens. One of the things i think is most revealing about this is that if the Prime Minister wanted to apply for prorogation, there is nothing to stop him from waiting until parliament had returned from the summer recess, at least 24 or 48 hours, and then applying. This is a government without a majority, it is a Prime Minister who was never elected by the public and he is moving for this, exploiting the constitutional rules and procedures, exploiting the queen, putting the queen in the most disgraceful position, really putting her in a very awkward position politically, in orderfor him to have his own way and to prevent parliament. The whole point, they said, was to give power back to westminster. Well, power back to westminster. Well, power is not coming back to westminster. Power is just coming back to downing street is what it looks like to me. What do you want your party to do . I think it is an open question as to whether the best approach is to go now for an early vote of no confidence, because what happens if, in the middle of this, Jeremy Corbyn moves for a vote of no confidence, but suppose he does, is borisjohnson going confidence, but suppose he does, is Boris Johnson going to confidence, but suppose he does, is borisjohnson going to ignore it . The proposal is for a queens speech. That young man, whoever he was, who was rattling on about how many days parliament have got, this is deliberately designed to make sure that parliament does not have many days, time to do anything to stop what is genuinely a constitutional outrage. When i first heard what was being suggested, i genuinely did not believe it. And i still can hardly believe that any elected member of parliament is behaving in this outrageous way. But ill behaving in this outrageous way. But ill tell you what, people have been saying lets wait and see what boris does. They are already beginning to see and it is not about giving power back to the people, it is, what did he say as a child because tamaki wa nted he say as a child because tamaki wanted to be world king . He is making a damn good start. We can go to adam fleming in brussels, any reaction there yet . Not officially and i would imagine when there is, they would say it is a domestic matter and nothing for the eu to get involved with but chatting to diplomats, i have just had a text from one of them to say whatever happens, the eu is never going to change its position because no deal became more credible because opponents of no deal had got better organised. So it is business as usual as far as the eu are concerned. And what people have said to me over the last few days over the stuff that could potentially happen in parliament was this the eu was not buying this line that there was going to be some be all, end all final confrontation between the government and opponents of brexit in the first two weeks of september. They always thought that this would run, as far as parliament is concerned, until the very end of october, right until the last minute. Also on the eu side, they we re minute. Also on the eu side, they were quite suspicious that there was going to be enough time to get parliament to approve a new brexit deal and implement all the necessary Domestic Legislation and law that would be required to make that brexit deal a reality between now and october the 31st anyway, so i dont think anything that has happened, by what borisjohnson has announced today, will change that view. What the uk is really waiting for is some detailed proposals from the uk about how to fix the backstop eu is the uk about how to fix the backstop eu is really waiting for. Then they will negotiate. The rest, as far as they are concerned, is a noise. A very loud noise, but a noise. A very loud noise, but a noise. Much more reaction to that throughout the morning and plenty of coverage online as well. We are going to break away from political coverage. Earlier this year, we reported on complaints of disability discrimination at liverpool university. Julia was one of the students who spoke to us about how having various health conditons meant she needed extra support and how she found getting that help in place. Ijust got to i just got to a stage where ijust got to a stage where i was just so angry at the university for not helping me, putting in the support in place, i realised that it wasnt just me support in place, i realised that it wasntjust me that was having these issues, it was a lot of students. How has the university been in terms of their support towards you . Extremely inconsistent and, at times, completely not there. After seeing ourfilm, Simon Harding got in touch to tell us about his nephew, gary copland. Gary is registered blind and he is on the autism spectrum. Hesjust finished his fourth year at law school at the university of glasgow. He and his family say he has been systematically discriminated against by the university, which has left him depressed and anxious about failing the course altogether. One of garys Biggest Issues has been access to the reading material needed for his course. Gary and his family have made 19 formal complaints to the university over the last three years but only one has been fully upheld. Gary and simon are with us now. Welcome, both of you. Gary, what difficulties have you been encountering . I have had quite a lot of difficulties at the university of glasgow, the Biggest Issue being access to the reading material. I have also had problems with examinations, i have had it issues, i have had problems with many e mails and letters back and forth which is taking up all my time and some of them are quite nasty, as well. So what are your needs and what is the reaction when you ask for it . So i am visually impaired, which means i need to have all of my reading in an accessible word format, so in orderfor me to get that, i have two provide the reading lists to an external agency. So it must be quite a time consuming process. If you dont get it, what impact does that have on you . process. If you dont get it, what impact does that have on you . If i dont receive the reading, it means i basically had to do all of my assessments and my exams based entirely on my memory, which means it really affects my grades. And how does it make you feel . It is very, very depressing, just complete hopelessness and i just feel like very depressing, just complete hopelessness and ijust feel like it is just out of control and never going to get any better. Simon, you got in touch with us at the Previous Report we saw a little bit of. I know you have got involved dealing with Glasgow University to try to get the support that gary needs. How frustrated are you by what is going on . It has been enormously frustrating. The whole issue here is a duty, a requirement, underthe equality act of 2010 to make reasonable adjustments. We have tried to work collaboratively with the university, even taking them to mediation at one point, to try to get them to understand the issues for gary and his particular form of disability and needs and there seems to bea disability and needs and there seems to be a complete intransigence and a lack of understanding, a lack of training and even a lack of will and desire to engage with this and it has been going on for four years continually. We have a statement from the university of glasgow, a spokesperson says we always seek to address the needs of individual stu d e nts address the needs of individual students and to tailor the package of support appropriately. In some cases where the needs are complex and multifaceted, it can take some time to get right. In this instance, huge efforts have been made by both academic and professional support colleagues, aided by expert external advice, to ensure the student can progress his studies effectively. We are pleased he is progressing well atan are pleased he is progressing well at an academic level. Preparations for his next year of study have been under way for some time and we are confident we will be able to continue to support him effectively through to the completion of his studies. Does that reassure you . No, not really, it feels very disingenuous. The act has an anticipatory duty, which means that the university had to anticipate garys needs and put things in place and they have fundamentally failed to do that and, when challenged, they become very embattled and embittered and really direct their anger towards us and blame gary for his situation. Gary, obviously, you have gone there to get a degree and to go on to do whatever you want to do with your life after it. You are heading out into your last year, arent you . Are you feeling confident about getting through it and getting the degree you want . Im feeling very, very nervous about it because i just dont feel like feeling very, very nervous about it because ijust dont feel like it is going to improve in my last year of study and i just feel like it going to improve in my last year of study and ijust feel like it is going to affect my Career Prospects because it has depressed my grades and it has just been very, very difficult to deal with. Thank you, both for coming in and getting in touch as well. Just want to bring you your comments at home about what is happening in the political arena. Richard on e mail says this is outrageous and shameful, the pro rogaine of parliament we have been talking about. Of the prorogation of parliament. This is trampling over hundreds of years of democracy and the people elected mps to represent our interests and hold the executive to account. Mps must use the rule of parliament to get rid of this Prime Minister. Most of the privy councillors did not know about this, it makes it clear it is a tyranny which comes from boris textbooks but has no place in modern britain. John on Facebook Says well done, boris, it is a brave and pulls a decision, this parliament have been shambolic and deeply disappointing since the referendum. If they could have agreed a compromise, they should have and they didnt and it is the only option to honour the vote of the referendum. Iam heading vote of the referendum. I am heading straight to westminster for more coverage of political matters. Back same time tomorrow, hope you have a lovely afternoon. Bbc newsroom live is coming up next. Hello, again. For many of us, it is going to be a cloudy day with outbreaks of rain pushing eastwards for a time outbreaks of rain pushing eastwards fora time and outbreaks of rain pushing eastwards for a time and some of the heaviest rain across wales and south west england. Across the north of england, rain at times. 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Its 11. 00 am, and these are the main stories this morning the government is to suspend parliament ahead of a queens speech on october 14th, which could deny mps the time to try to stop a no deal brexit. The Prime Minister insists that the plan would not prevent mps playing their role in the Brexit Process. We are bringing forward a new legislative programme on crime, hospitals, and making sure we have the Education Funding we need. There will be ample time on both sides of that crucial october 17 summit, ample time, in parliament for mps to debate the eu, to debate brexit, and all the other issues. The idea of shutting down parliament known as prorogation has caused controversy. The Commons Speaker brands it a constitutional outrage as mps