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If youre emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the Programme Please include your phone number in your message. If you text, youll be charged at the Standard Network rate. First, Rachel Schofield has the news. Good morning. Borisjohnson will announce a series of measures today to boost the number of people in england being vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella. Figures for last year show there were almost 1,000 cases of measles in england and wales three times the number in 2017 and the uk has now lost its measles free status. Jeremy corbyn will use a speech today to accuse borisjohnson of provoking a crisis in britain as the labour leader pledges to do everything necessary to stop a no deal brexit. Mr corbyn will argue that a general election in the autumn set against the backdrop of brexit could provide a once in a generation chance for a change in politics. An iranian tanker that was seized by gibraltar last month on suspicion of transporting oil to syria has left the british overseas territory. Its departure follows a failed last minute attempt by the United States to have the ship impounded. This morning iran has warned washington not to try to seize the ship on the open seas. Prince andrew has said hes appalled by allegations that his formerfriend, Jeffrey Epstein, sexually abused dozens of young girls and finds any suggestion that hed participate in such behaviour abhorrent. Buckingham palace issued a statement on the princes behalf last night after a video emerged showing him inside epsteins home in new york after the billionaire had served a prison sentence. The search for a six year old boy who is missing afterfalling into a river has resumed but police say it is unlikely he will be found alive. Lucas dobson slipped into the river stour in sandwich, kent, on saturday afternoon, while on a fishing trip with Family Members. Experienced search teams continued rescue efforts until late last night. The Emergency Services on gran canaria say a huge fire sweeping across parts of the island has so far proved impossible to contain. About 4,000 people have been moved from their homes as a result. Ten planes and helicopters, as well as 700 firefighters on the ground including 200 from the military have been deployed. An alaska mans hunt for firewood ended with the discovery of a different kind after he came across a 50 year old message in a bottle. Tyler ivanoff found a letter written in russian, and posted an appeal for a translation on his facebook page. It transpired the letter had been written by a sailor on board the russian ship sulak on 20th june 1969. Quite some find back to you, joanna. Indeed, rachel. Thank you very much. The labour Leaderjeremy Corbyn will say in a speech today that a snap general election in the autumn is what the country needs to stop what he calls the brexit crisis. It comes after a leaked government document seen by the sunday times warned of food, medicine and fuel shortages if the uk leaves the eu without a deal on october 31st. The dossier assesses the impact a no deal brexit could have on a whole range of things, saying it could lead to food prices going up and fresh food becoming less available. Across the irish sea, it says a so called hard border is likely between Northern Ireland and the republic with checks in place sparking protests. It also looks potentially at the impact on fuel availability saying fuel could become less available and there could potentially be job losses in the industry. Patients having to wait longer for medicines, including insulin and flu vaccines. And delays at airports. Passengers being delayed at eu airports, eurotunnel and dover. And freight disruption at ports lasting up to three months, caused by new customs checks, before traffic flow improves to 50 70 of the current rate. There are those in parliament who have pledged to do all they can to frustrate a no deal outcome, but Opposition Mps are still divided on how best to halt the governments plans to leave no matter what. Were joined in the studio by labour mp Stephen Doughty who is leading calls for mps to end their summer break and return immediately to parliament to discuss brexit. Also, the lib dems brexit spokesman tom brake, and the conservative backbencher and Brexiteer Andrew bridgen. Welcome all of you. Thank you for joining us. Stephen doughty, first of all, why do you think polomat needs to be recalled immediately . This is a national crisis, we have a reckless Prime Minister here and his unelected and undemocratic advisor trying to drag this country into a disastrous no deal brexit. The yellowhammer documents show how disruptive that would be for fuel, medicines, the situation regarding ireland and our National Security and a minister should be held to account today and everyday through to the 31st october about these reckless plans. Andrew bridgen, do you support mps going back and being able to scrutinise whats going on from now basically . Michael gove, the effective deputy Prime Minister in charge of no deal planning, has made it clear that that is an old report which is very much a worst case scenario. Report which is very much a worstcase scenario. When you say old, it was put before him this month. Yes, it was written up a long time ago, i spoke to senior conservatives. It was written in the last few months so that would suggest these are issues that are still of concern and need to be looked at by the man heading no deal preparations for the government. you would let me answer the question is, if you look at the facts, the chief executive of the port of calais has been saying for the last 12 months there will be no delays, iio 12 months there will be no delays, no extra delays at the port of calais in the event of a no deal brexit. I dont think that will happen. I think the eu will renegotiate when we get to the compression point about three weeks out from us leaving, the first week in october. But obviously the forces who do not wish us to leave the European Union will make hay out of this and they want to get no deal off the table because that means no renegotiation. That leaves the choice between theresa mays absolutely failed three times in Parliament Withdrawal agreement, or not leaving at all and what they wa nt not leaving at all and what they want is not to leave at all. They are just riding their hobby horses. This is project fear again. There is iio this is project fear again. There is no need for any of this. What you have actually got is no difference between our regulatory regimes in the eu and the uk. The month after we leave, no need for any extra checks under wto rules, there would be nontariff barriers against the rules. 90 of the hauliers are eu hauliers. How rules. 90 of the hauliers are eu hauliers. How can rules. 90 of the hauliers are eu hauliers. How can you say there are going to be no regulatory differences once we leave if we leave without a deal . Isnt that the whole point . It would take about a year for us to change those and get the rules to change. Certainly, the day after, the goods arriving a day after at the border will be manufactured while we were still in the European Union. Stephen doughty and tom brake both shaking their heads at that. Tom brake, what do you say . First of all, just on the re call you say . First of all, just on the recall issue, we need the Prime Minister to come and explain why in the last four weeks he has done nothing about trying to secure a new deal, and we also need michael gove to confirm or not whether this is or is not a recent report. Clearly the journalist involves says it is re ce nt journalist involves says it is recent and michael gove says it isnt. The journalist says this is a likely scenario. Michael gove says it is the worst case scenario. In relation to what might happen on the border, this is after all a government report which talks about fuel, food and medicine shortages. Just on the border issues, we know that a very small amount of disruption to traffic going through that port could lead to very severe consequences. That port could lead to very severe consequences. I had a personal taste of this a few weeks ago when we were going through the port of dover to france and a couple of the ferries had some technical problems and it ended up with four hour delays for passengers and also a huge tailback on the motorway. So if we have ongoing problems, for instance, caused by priti patel, the home secretary, who has said, for instance, that freedom of movement is going to be something that will stop on day one after we have left the eu, if that is going to be the case then presumably everyone is going to have their passports thoroughly checked on entry including lorry drivers as to whether they are allowed to come in or not and that in itself is going to lead to a huge amount of chaos on oui to lead to a huge amount of chaos on our border. Stephen doughty, today Jeremy Corbyn is going to say he will do Everything Possible to stop a no deal brexit. 0ne will do Everything Possible to stop a no deal brexit. One of the things thatis a no deal brexit. One of the things that is a bar to Opposition Mps being unified, and the lib dems are not with you on this, isJeremy Corbyn saying that were there to be an interim government he would want to lead it. Jeremy is right to say what he is going to be saying today andi what he is going to be saying today and i work closely with tom and people from across the house of commons. The letter we put down for the recall of parliament was signed by members of all parties including the conservatives, and we are all working together resolutely. I think borisjohnson working together resolutely. I think Boris Johnson and his working together resolutely. I think borisjohnson and his unelected shadowy advisers there to be absolutely sure that this parliament will be speaking for the people who elected us in 2017 and we will be defeating a no deal brexit. Andrew seems to be living on a completely different planet in terms of the impact here. He completely doesnt bear any reality to the documents that we have seen leaked. Doesnt bear reality to. To indeed what many of those cabinet ministers including michael gove have actually said about the dangers of no deal in the past. The real deputy Prime Minister here is a man called Dominic Cummings who is unelected and said days before taking office. Focusing on those documents and what they indicate. Iam documents and what they indicate. I am focusing on those documents. We should be in parliament able to scrutinise those documents and the ministers and able to scrutinise the comments of people like Dominic Cummings who has said he wants to shove his ideas down peoples throats practically at gunpoint, his own words, shameful comments and a real reflection of the anti democratic nature of the cabal around Boris Johnson now anti democratic nature of the cabal around borisjohnson now who of course himself has had a very hazy relationship with the truth in the past. That is exactly what parliament, our democracy, the representatives of the british people should be holding this government to account. If andrew is so government to account. If andrew is so confident that no deal planning is perfect and the country supports no deal and the country supports their madcap plan, what are they so afraid of . They should have parliament theyre scrutinising them and we should be putting this issue back to the people. Andrew bridgen . It is quite right the government should always plan for the worst case scenario, thats what you have to do. I would remind your viewers that if you look back too i think it was 2015, there were 22 weeks of consecutive industrial action on the french side of the channel, which caused disruption and delays. There was a stacking of vehicles. However, i dont recall any shortage of food or medicines or anything else in the shops, and that was 22 weeks of industrial action on the french side of the channel. I think any viewer will remember the fuel shortages in the past and the many reasons why parliament has been recalled in the past for things of this nature. The fa ct past for things of this nature. The fact is, andrew, you dont want the elected representatives of the british people they are to hold your government to account because essentially they are dragging us forward to an undemocratic situation where there is no mandate and i think that is an extraordinary situation to be in and is exactly why we need to be in Parliament Holding ministers to account and why fundamentally this issue has got to go back to the people and let them make the choice on this. Sorry, tom ijust want make the choice on this. Sorry, tom i just want to give andrew bridgen and responding to that point about mps going back now . Why not . We are heading to a deadline and it is unclear heading to a deadline and it is u nclear exactly, heading to a deadline and it is unclear exactly, this report is out, why shouldnt mps be back scrutinising that . Because the government have got things under control and they are planning for the no deal in the hope the eu will renegotiate. But what stephen wants and those who support taking no deal off the table is they dont want us to leave the European Union. What have you got to fear, andrew . The people have spoken. If you are right, what have you got to fear . |j have worked all summer and im going on holiday. Great for you, what about the businesses and the traders and the ports and all of those others who are having to deal with the utter chaos that your government is getting them into . Very nice for you to go away on holiday, what about the ordinary working people in this country . We havent yet left without a deal come in under undermining the governments no deal brexit preparations you are making it more likely, we need to bring the European Union back to the table, get rid of the backstop and renegotiate the withdrawal agreement. For the uk to have a deal, it requires our Prime Minister to secure one. Our Prime Minister simply saying my door is always open, isnt a negotiating stance. Clearly i welcome the fact that this week hes going to and see Angela Merkel and emmanuel macron, but week hes going to and see Angela Merkeland emmanuel macron, but my real worry is they will not be any real worry is they will not be any real attempt on his behalf to secure a deal. He will then come back to the United Kingdom and he will do what he and im afraid to say what people like andrew have done, he will blame other conservative politicians like phillip hammond, he will blame the European Union, and for good measure he will blame Civil Servants for the major that he and his government have caused. Lets not forget we are about food, fuel and medicines shortages. Thats the sort of thing we talk about in wartime. This is something that is potentially going to happen in peace time asa potentially going to happen in peace time as a result of a conscious decision by our Prime Minister to do ordie decision by our Prime Minister to do or die for which he doesnt want to be held accountable, is not willing to come to parliament to defend himself and michael gove is not willing to come to parliament now to explain why no deal is going to be such a disaster. Dominic cummings himself was found in contempt of parliament for refusing to come to parliament for refusing to come to parliament to be held accountable for his past actions. Andrew bridgen, why is the 31st of october such an inviolable deadline . What about going beyond it. Sorry, i cant hear you. Please repeat the question. Why is the 31st of october such a hard deadline for you and those of you who want to see us out. Business hates uncertainty, we know that, we have already gone through two deadlines. The biggest impediment to business is the uncertainty and we need to get out on the 31st. I dont know. I think business willjust give up if they cant make their investment decisions. They need certainty. The country needs certainty. Our democracy needs certainty. Our Parliament Needs certainty, our people needs certainty, we will be out on 31st of october, wed like to go out with a deal but if you think about the eu ive already said we cannot debate and negotiate our future relationship until we are a third party. We can offer them get 24, we want a super canada free trade deal and we can negotiate that as soon as we leave. trade deal and we can negotiate that as soon as we leave. Gat 24. Andrew has set out why we will get no certainty after the 31st of october because if we crash out without a deal, all that will happen is that the uk is going to be back into trying to negotiate the things that we didnt negotiate before crashing out with no deal, issues like the settlement the uk has to pay to leave the European Union. Stephen and tom, you are determined that this country will not leave without a deal on the 31st of october. How are you going to prevent it . Is there a Clear Pathway . As i have said to you, Stephen Doughty, there isnt unity amongst those who want to see it, you two are not united in terms of what you want to see in the short term. I can assure you that tom and iare united. Term. I can assure you that tom and i are united. We both support Jeremy Corbyn being an interim leader of this country . I take a slightly Old Fashioned view of this, we are not going to be showing the plans and strategies of all of us who are working together so closely with the government and with the media. But i can assure you that the government does not have a majority, it has an effective majority of one but it has been made clear that doesnt count and its exactly why they dont want and its exactly why they dont want a Parliament Sitting and why they dont want to be held to account because they dont have the support in parliament for this reckless course of course, it was dominic raab himself who said that he wanted to prorogue parliament, completely suspend parliament and we at least got past that. Now they are trying to make sure we are not sitting. When we go back we are due to go off on another break for three weeks after sitting for a few days. That is extraordinarily reckless situation to be in when the country is hurtling towards this. What can you do . I take an oldfashioned view about this that we are not going to be showing the details of the different ways in which this can happen but parliament has repeatedly voted against a no deal, there is not a majority for no deal. Are you sure that the ways you have got something the government cannot block . This is a government that is as determined as you are to do the opposite of what you want. Lets be clear, this government will stoop to nothing when it comes to pursuing their aims. They would use the same language about you. Are you sure they cannot block you . With the greatest respect im not the one who has talked about forcing ideas down peoples throats at gunpoint which is what the Prime Ministers chief advise that it, effective deputy Prime Minister unelected, has been saying, grossly offensive comment after the death of our friend and colleaguejo cox. These are the people running this government. Im asking about your view over your certainty of your course of action. Im certain of the unity of purpose and of direction of all of those in parliament. Many of which voted for brexit deals, have a wide range of views on how this issue can be resolved. We are absolutely united in the desire to stop this reckless no deal, which is undemocratic and which has no mandate. This is something thats being pushed by an extreme wing of individuals within the conservative party. Quite frankly, they dont care about the consequences for the people of this country and i think thats one of the most reckless governments we have seen in history. Tom brake. In relation to this leak of operation yellowhammer, i would relation to this leak of operation yellowhammer, iwould be relation to this leak of operation yellowhammer, i would be very surprised if there werent now a large numberof surprised if there werent now a large number of conservative members of parliament who are realising that the political consequences for them, apart from for their constituents, particularly those on lower incomes, the political consequences for them of pushing through no deal, for which there is no majority in parliament, for which people did not vote for in the referendum three years ago, is potentially fatal for their political party. Because if half of the chaos predicted in this report materialises, 3 6 months of disruption at dover, traffic flow is reduced by 50 , if half of that happens, the conservative party are going to have a majorjob to explain to people why they wilfully pursued an agenda that has caused chaos for large parts of the uk economy and regions around the United Kingdom. Andrew bridgen, what would you say if that were to turn out to be the case . The deal has failed in Parliament Three times. Thats why the government are planning for the worst case scenario, it is completely unnecessary, these are eu goods, the same as they were on the day we left on eu lorries, but if the french ports owned by the french government, if they wish to cause delays they will do but they should be very careful because the dutch are looking to capitalise on any delays in france and take the french business. What about our National Security . Amber rudd who is now sitting in the cabinet backing up a position which im fully well know she doesnt support, was home secretary and she knows full well the consequences and indeed theresa may did, as indeed sajid javid did come of crashing out of the eu without agreements on security cooperation, the potential collapse of criminal trials and sharing of information for our National Security and safety. We are out of time, im afraid. Thank you for joining us. No doubt we will talk about this again before the 31st of 0ctober comes around. Thank you. Still to come. The weight loss app for children as young as eight some critics say its dangerous, but could it help combat Childhood Obesity . In 2017, singerjessie ware whos an ambassador for unicef visited this refugee camp in bangladesh for Rohingya Muslims whod fled across the borderfrom myanmar. Two years on, the refugees are still there and jessies here to tell us about the campaign to allow them to return home. Prince andrew has said he is appalled by the sex abuse claims surrounding his former friend, the american financierJeffrey Epstein. Epstein killed himself in his prison celljust over a week ago. He was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges involving underage girls. Buckingham palace issued a statement from the prince after the mail on sunday published footage which claimed to show him inside the financiers manhattan mansion in 2010. 0ur royal correspondent jonny dymonds been looking at this story this morning. Hes here with me now. Its been a little bit of time coming, the comment from Prince Andrew, what has been said now . You are right, it has been a little time coming because there has been the sort of a rolling release of information since jeffrey sort of a rolling release of information sinceJeffrey Epstein was arrested and since he killed himself. The daily mail published a video that showed Prince Andrew inside mr epsteins house in 2010. We knew that Prince Andrew had met Jeffrey Epstein after mr epstein was convicted in 2008 in florida of child exploitation, child sexual abuse. We didnt know he had been inside his house. We dont know if he had stayed inside his house. Clearly Buckingham Palace thought we need to put out another statement trying to draw a line once again under this very unfortunate relationship, this very unfortunate friendship. Prince andrew has already said effectively that he made a mistake in seeing mr epstein in 2010 but the relationship did continue after the conviction in 2008 and the relationship also between the duchess of york, the former wife of Prince Andrew, who took a loan from Jeffrey Epstein in 2011. There are a number of threads. The concern for Buckingham Palace and the concern for the royal familys court papers will come out of the next few weeks which may have further allegations, further revelations about Prince Andrew and the circle he moved in. How unusual is it for the palace to put out a Statement Like this . There is no necessary protocol on these things. In general, the method of the palace is to say, look, thats private, the royalfamily are is to say, look, thats private, the royal family are allowed to have private friendships and it is nothing to do with his public role and that therefore we are not commenting. They had already put out comments denying emphatically the allegations that prince was actually involved with any of the underage children that suggestions were made about. I think it is a sign that they felt they had to Say Something about the closeness of the relationship in 2010, even though they had already said there is nothing to see here. We will wait to see what comes out of the next few weeks in these court papers. Thank you very much. A new weight loss app for children has been called disgusting and dangerous. The product, from ww formerly known as Weight Watchers is aimed at young people aged between 8 and 17. The kurbo app encourages users to follow a traffic light system with their food. There are two petitions calling for the app to be removed which have been signed collectively by almost 80,000 people. And the actor and Body Confidence activist Jameela Jamil claims it will breed food obsession from a young age. But ww says kurbo which is only available in the us focuses on positive behaviour change, not dieting or calorie counting. Heres mindy grossman, president and ceo of ww international, explaining why they decided to launch kurbo. The idea of really helping and support families was notjust something that we wanted to do or was important for us to do, but its really a responsibility for us to help families and help change the trajectory of whats happening in the world. A Record Number of children are obese in the uk so if this app isnt the answer, then what is . We can speak now to donna pavitt shes battled with her weight throughout her life. At her heaviest she weighed 17 stone when she was 15. She also attended slimming clubs. Shes now a health and wellbeing coach. Hope virgo a Mental Health campaigner who lived with anorexia for more than four dr adrian brown a specialist dietitian and researcher in obesity for University College london and Angela Beecroft a nutritionist who specializes in childrens health. Donna, you have battled with your weight for all of your life. At your heaviest you weighed 17 stone when you were 15. Tell us about how it was broached when you were that age. It has been pretty much my whole life, ive a lwa ys pretty much my whole life, ive always been on a diet, so everything. Before 18 . Yeah i cant remember too much before then but i have a photo of me when i was five looking at my body and the breathing in. It has always been pa rt breathing in. It has always been part of my life, dieting, always wa nted part of my life, dieting, always wanted to be slimmer, and spending my whole kind of 20s im in my 30s now, focusing my whole life on the scales on exercise just to be a better person. A better person . Did you feel that when you were five . No, when i was a teenager, from 13, i went to a slimming class when i was 13. When you say you were breathing in in that picture, what was going on . I cant remember. Do you remember where that was coming from . No, ive always been a larger person, so yeah. You are not now. No, but its taken a lot of hard work for me to get to where i am now. The head stuff is important when you talk about yourself. Mind for anyone dieting. As i say, ive gone from restrictive eating patterns to where i am now helping other people overcome their body image and just to be more self accepting of themselves, because it is so important to let go of dieting and just eat nutritional food, move your body and ijust and just eat nutritional food, move your body and i just want to help people overcome that really. What do you think about this app . Im against it, just because of my own journey. I have gone truly consumed about dieting and food from as young as 13. It was just focused on restriction, those restrictions led to me eating, because it wasnt allowed. It is complicated. Complicated, but i think it is scary for what Young Children can go into, going from what ive been through. What about your relationship with food . I had anorexia from the age of 12 until it was 17, then was hospitalised for a year. I now manage my recovery in a positive way, i have relapsed once in the la st way, i have relapsed once in the last 11 years since coming out of hospital. But for me, i think food is always potentially going to be something i have to work on, i have to challenge myself daily to make sure im not calorie counting, make sure im not calorie counting, make sure im not letting foot control me andl sure im not letting foot control me and i am able to do that and im confident to do that. Letting food control may. What first got you into calorie counting, not seeing food as something you mightjust enjoy . For me it began as a way to control things. This kind of emotional control. As i started to lose weight, people would give me compliments and you get into this vicious cycle. As a society we spend so vicious cycle. As a society we spend so much time glamorising being really skinny and you have to be skinny to be successful. Its this kind of message that these apps and social media generally is fuelling that, we are putting pressure on young people on awarding them by telling them they look better or they are doing the right thing, and that will encourage more people to get into this vicious cycle with food. What do you think about the app . I think its really dangerous. Idoa lot of app . I think its really dangerous. I do a lot of work in schools with Primary School students and secondary school students. You come into contact every day with young people who are already worried about theirweight, their body people who are already worried about their weight, their body image and appearance, comparing themselves to each other. The way for me with the app each other. The way for me with the app as it will amplify that. I spend dollar it spent a huge much of my childhood researching calories, good and bad foods, and this app makes it so and bad foods, and this app makes it so easy for people to access all of that information and again i think it will continue tojust that information and again i think it will continue to just fuel that whole idea that yes, we do have this obesity crisis but by getting people to restrict what they are having and focusing on good and bad food, it will not solve that. We will have an entire generation of young people who are so obsessed and preoccupied on food and calories and exercise on restriction and thats not what we wa nt restriction and thats not what we want to see. Doctor adrian brown, we are hearing how sensitive an issue it is. For anybody whatever their age but particularly young kids. When from a young age, you are made conscious of your body and conscious of what is in the food youre eating, it can obviously lead to long term issues. What would you say is the best way to handle a situation with kids and food and weight . First of all, as you said before, there is an obesity increased prevalence within the uk with children. One in five children of 11 are living with obesity. It increases with deprivation. So we see that with the lowest stages of deprivation, we have a two times higher case for the fact that we notice thats a real issue. I think in terms of Weight Management within children, i think its highly complex. There is a multitude of things that actually can affect someones weight, including biological, genetics, social and also environmental factors, that can all come together to mean someone gains weight. But this app is putting the onus on the kids and their behaviour. What do you think about that . I think it should be inclusive, not exclusive and i think thats a really important point, thats a really important point, that the focus does appear to be on the child. When you look at the research, and the research comes from stamford, it is based around theirweight from stamford, it is based around their Weight Management programme there, and what that involved is therapists, paediatricians, so it had a whole scope of Health Care Professionals behind it to give its support. This appears to be focused on health trainers, we are unsure currently as to the training they actually get, whether they are experts in helping children with overweight and obesity. Sol experts in helping children with overweight and obesity. So i think the important thing to understand is that Weight Watchers ham come to it with good intentions. Have come. How it has been delivered, we need to see with time. I do agree with both the guests here that obvious, there are concerns around the Development Potentially of eating disorders, in particular groups of people. We know that eating disorders develop for a variety a variety of different reasons, genetic, societal and psychological reasons, but unfortunately, the app doesnt identify that. What should be there is that they should identify them at the start to see if there are, and then continually monitor them through the time. So the ww statement says marketing focuses on change for Healthy Eating and more activity, not dieting or calorie counting. Studies show that behaviour based Weight Management programme do not cause eating disorders, but give kids the tools to make balanced choices and manage their weight in a healthy way. Donna, whats your reaction to that . Are talking about kids who are in an environment whether they are not calling the shots on what food is put on their plates and how much exercise they get. I feel its going to become obsessive and a really bad habit for them to obsess about and to always think about. It is a tracking app, there are other apps that you can track your food on but they are for 18 years plus. It worries me, at such a young age to get so obsessed and have that obsession with focusing everything on that. What would you say, as formerly a child who was overweight, the best way to first broach the subject with the child . In any context, its going to make a child immediately feel conscious of themselves first of all, with regards to movement, i would get them to find something they enjoy, to do an activity they enjoy, that they would want to keep going and doing it and also not to make food a reward as well. If chocolate is a reward, it could lead. Just make ita reward, it could lead. Just make it a normal life, filled the plates we re it a normal life, filled the plates were colourful, nutritional food, not counting calories as such, especially from such a young age. Lets bring in angela. How do you think these sensitive issues are best dealt with . I actually agree andl best dealt with . I actually agree and i echo the sentiments of the previous speakers, because in my practice, i see lots of children with Health Issues and its a going concern. With Health Issues and its a going concern. Food, idont with Health Issues and its a going concern. Food, i dont want any child or any adult to count calories, way out food and become obsessed with food. There is so many different components of actually why we eat. Food is the most powerful thing we put in our mouth, three or four times a day, we need to educate. This is all about educating children, parents in schools, its notjust children, parents in schools, its not just food, children, parents in schools, its notjust food, its children, parents in schools, its not just food, its about micro children, parents in schools, its notjust food, its about micro bio, you have two kilos of bacteria that live in your gut which profoundly affect your weight. Its also about your emotions, how do you feel . People eat for comfort so there a whole component. So we need to educate from the top. We need a nutritionist for people who know about food in every gp surgery and every single school. There is a fleet of nutritionists out there, we can help people and educate the entire country so we dont need these apps. Vicky on twitter says i would be worried if my 12 Year Old Girl who is approaching puberty became obsessed with an app like this. We make sure we eat healthily and only have treats at the weekend and only have treats at the weekend and discussed the importance of being healthy in life. Linda says, its not the responsibility of an app to tackle Childhood Obesity, that lies with parents not to keep buying the children unhealthy. A pack of five baffles cost around 90p, one small chocolate bar around nine 40 p. Documents is, i see nothing wrong with an app that tells children they are overweight, their pa rents would children they are overweight, their parents would probably not tell the child. Julie says, eating disorders can also be about control. When you feel your life is chaotic you focus on what you can control and that is white. I hope that is chiming where you were coming from . Definitely, andi you were coming from . Definitely, and i think thats the thing, when we look at the obesity crisis in people with eating disorders, often we look at the weight of the individual, not the mental state. That is the worry with the app, it is simplifying what could be a really complex Mental Health problem for that individual. Mental Health Issues obviously are addressed in people with anorexia, what about obesity in your experience . Was Mental Health ever that was discussed . Not really, back in the 19905, discussed . Not really, back in the 1990s, not at all. I do a lot of Mental Health campaigning on the side and we are trying to make sure people can access treatment when they needed. A huge thing ive come up they needed. A huge thing ive come up against with a campaign im working on separately is the fact that a lot of people who are overweight are not able to access any kind of Mental Health treatment because their bmi is not low enough. By because their bmi is not low enough. By using apps like Weight Watchers there is a fear that we are not tackling Mental Health problems that so tackling Mental Health problems that so many young people have and also also my older people are facing. We know that when we look at effective treatments, they are family based. They involve the whole family, they involve the family environment, the emotions, all those things are brought together, and the parents are involved. And that goes beyond just basic education about what a good diet looks like . Indeed, and it is highly complex. We know that there isa highly complex. We know that there is a lot of emotions, and the speakerjust said is a lot of emotions, and the speaker just said related is a lot of emotions, and the speakerjust said related to it being very complex, but i think if we are going to look at how we could tackle this in a wider element, it really needs to focus on getting a family based approach. The Henry Programme in leeds, which is a family based, parent focused element, has reduced obesity. It is the only programme that has reduced it in the uk, and by 1 the only programme that has reduced it in the uk, and by i recently. So thatis it in the uk, and by i recently. So that is a tremendous improvement. But the focus wasnt on the child, it was on the family environment and changing that. Having worked in specialist Weight Management for over a decade, i think there needs to bea over a decade, i think there needs to be a new one here, particularly around weight loss. And when we are seeing children living with obesity with a wait of over 150 kilos, a bmi of over 50, with highly complex issues, or they have got something that might actually reduce the life expectancy, i think we need to tackle that. But whether this app is solely the solution, im not convinced. I think it could add as a total package, be an option, but not solely by itself. Thank you all very much forjoining us. And if youve been affected by issues in this discussion, there is a range of organisations and websites that can offer you advice and support. You can find them listed on the bbcs actionline website at bbc. Co. Uk actionline. This sunday marks the second anniversary of the rohingya crisis. Two years ago, an estimated 700,000 rohinghas fled across the border to bangladesh after being subjected to brutal violence and killings. The rohingyas, a muslim ethnic group from myanmar, have never been recognised by the government as a separate group and do not have full citizenship. Two years on and most are still stateless in refugee camps 50 of them children. Unicef is now calling on the government of myanmar to establish conditions that would allow Rohingya Refugees to return to their homes as soon as possible. Singer and podcasterjessie ware visited coxs bazar, the biggest refugee camp in bangladesh with unicef in december 2017 and is here now to talk about the latest situation. Thanks very much for coming in. Take us back to what you saw and heard when you were there. Take us back to what you saw and heard when you were therelj take us back to what you saw and heard when you were there. I went in december 2017 and when i went, it was a few months post the kind of influx, the mass exodus of the 700,000 Rohingya Refugees. So the camps were chaotic. They were overwhelmed. Unicef were on the ground trying to provide just immediate support in sanitation, basic needs like sanitation and nutrition and safety, opening up child friendly spaces for children to be able to go and be children and feel safe and to talk and deal with some of the trauma they experienced. Some of these children had witnessed the most unspeakable horrors, they had seen the family is being butchered in front of them, and then had to make the mass exodus to two to bangladesh on their own, walking for sometimes months. So children are very honourable, they we re very children are very honourable, they were very vulnerable in the camps, i saw some of the amazing work unicef we re saw some of the amazing work unicef were doing to try and make women and children survive. How palpable was that vulnerability and how are you able to see and hear what they had gone through . When i attended one of the child friendly spaces, i met with a 16 Year Old Girl who had watched both her parents being killed in front of her. She had escaped with her siblings but had lost her siblings long along the way for so she had entered the cap on her own aged 16, has lost her whole family. Completely vulnerable. Miraculously, she bumped into her cousin at one of the check in desks so had managed to find a Family Member but she was attending this child friendly space, i think, to just try and relearn how to be a child again, and also to talk and deal with her trauma. I saw in those child friendly spaces drawings that children had done when i had just entered the camp, and the scenes they were drawing, stick men with machetes, their villages on fire, stick men hanging in trees, helicopters flying over. I cant believe that children were having to experience this and then this is what they are drawing. Unicef were really helping with the psychosocial care. This is two stories of over1 million, these people are seeing the most unspeakable things. The reason that unicef gets people like you to go to these places is to give those people effectively a voice, how much ofa people effectively a voice, how much of a responsibility do you feel that . I feel incredibly grateful that . I feel incredibly grateful that unicef have invited me to be an ambassador, and to use my platform to share the stories of these poor people with other people, with my audience, and if people with other people, with my audience, and if i can tell those stories and explain how when people donate, where the money goes to and how these people are being affected, then i feel incredibly grateful to be able to have that. Obviously, it isa be able to have that. Obviously, it is a situation that has been reported on, and quite a lot. But its not been as high profile as some other situations, humanitarian crises that we see. How do feel about that, as it has unfolded over the two years since it began . The un have called it a genocide. It is two yea rs on have called it a genocide. It is two years on and i really appreciate you doing a piece about this. This is marking the anniversary. You know, small things have changed. But its more about the fact that these people are in a state of limbo. They are not allowed to go back to myanmar, they are not allowed to be legal citizens of bangladesh, so they are in a constant state of limbo. So unicef is trying to provide a more structured, formal education for these children, this is where their life is now, we dont know what the future holds. So to allow them to be children, to give them an education so they have some hope for the future. Obviously, you we re hope for the future. Obviously, you were there at the beginning, but did you feel that in those child spaces, that there was an element of then perhaps being able to start to get some sort of a protected chartered bank . Absolutely. There was definitely a contrast in the drawings you saw. A protected childhood back. The girls and of sitting together, drawing very ornate flowers, they were singing. I went to one of the learning centres where the children were treating it like going to school every day. They we re like going to school every day. They were safe and they were so proud to sing to me and show me their work. I saw them being able to be children, and smiling, which you dont see that much. I think whats so obvious in these camps is so many of the children are vulnerable, 97 of the overfor children are vulnerable, 97 of the over for teens, children are vulnerable, 97 of the overfor teens, are not attending educational centres there, the child friendly spaces are learning centres, and they are so vulnerable to child trafficking, violence, drugs, child labour. So its about trying to protect these children as much as possible. When i in these spaces, they were able to be children again. What i saw in the spaces. And they will remember whats happened but at least. How much of an issue is that, an outflow of kids from these camps . The child trafficking . I cant comment too much about that, but i mean, it is. They are trying to encourage them to attend these educational spaces so that they can be safe, so they can be monitored in a caring, pastoral way. So the situation now is that there are talks around potentially 3450 initially going back. This is a move that the unhcr has said is an acknowledgement that the right to return is being recognised. How do you view that . Its a small improvement but there are over1 million rohingya in those camps. So 3450 is a small compromise. But they are still not being granted legal citizenship. When i spoke to many of the refugees, they were scared about returning home because it is uncertain what the conditions will be. Unicef want the myanmar government and the Bangladeshi Government and the Bangladeshi Government to establish conditions where the ranges can return willingly and be safe and its uncertain what they are about to enter back into if they go back to myanmar. Lots of them want to stay. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Leaving your car Engine Running while youre not moving is a major cause of air pollution. Now theres a new idea to tackle the problem. A uk think tank is proposing that we take up an american scheme where you earn part of the fine, if you film and report people for idling. We can talk now to david smith and harriet edwards. Harriet, tell us first of all is such a problem. Its really a major problem if people are unnecessarily idling there engines. Toxic fumes are extremely dangerous for all of our health and particularly children, older people and people with lung conditions. We know there are so many people who are know there are so many people who a re really know there are so many people who are really concerned about this in the uk and concern particularly outside school gates. David, i said you were an idling activist, what does that mean . I have been campaigning to try and reduced the exposure to children to air pollution. Vehicles will park outside nursery schools, gps, hospitals and leave their Engine Running. We know that idling vehicles can generate twice the pollution, the emissions of a moving vehicle and obvious that children are so much closer. Because it is not being dispersed. Exactly. It settles in the area and you have a child walking past or a baby in a buggy. Child walking past or a baby in a buggy, they are so much child walking past or a baby in a bquy, they are so much closer child walking past or a baby in a buggy, they are so much closer to the vehicle exhaust so they are breathing in higher concentrations than an adult. So hurried, the impact around kids at the school gate, how would you evaluate it . There is obviously one of many sources in our towns and cities and sources in our towns and cities and so it is important to say that the school run, generally it is a really toxic time fortune, they are often exposed to the highest quantity that they are across the school day. In they are across the school day. In the long term it can increase the risk of lung cancer and increase the risk of lung cancer and increase the risk of lung cancer and increase the risk of things like asthma as well. So are really Serious Public Health problem. David, what do you do in order to raise awareness . Campaigning, looking at changing the idling law at the moment so i spend a lot of time on social media. Those are people who seek out what youre doing online, they are not going to want to be sought out if are sitting idling. What we do, we have lots of volunteers who will knock on the window, have a conversation, and over one of these leaflets, some very important facts around the impact idling is having on our children. What might how will people react when they are given one of those . Nine out of ten switch there engines. Thats why im delighted to be here today because this is the chance to actually raise Public Awareness of how important it is to turn the engines of. What about the idea of turning spire, filming someone and getting a share of the money . It has worked very well in new york. In london we already have lots of volunteers like myself who are happy to do it for free. In terms of being paid, for myself, its not necessary. I would love to see that 25 go towards some monitors for the school or air filtration units for classrooms. Would you advocate people filming someone and reporting them . To be honest, lots of people who are reported get away without link are very few people get a fine because they say, it wasnt me. And there is no evidence. So it is a useless law . Unfortunately, that is why we are campaigning. So, if they are filmed. The government says idling has taken place so you have the evidence. The next age is saying ok, at the moment the law says we have to warn the driver, give them two minutes to switch the engine off, go back to them and then issue a fine, then they can drive away. The idea is that they can do it the next day and the next day. So we need a law that says give the driver one morning, give them information on Climate Change and pollution, then they get an instant find. So its not as straightforward a sum thinking they want to make some easy money, they can film someone idling and send it in . Unfortunately, no. We need to see systemic action on polluting vehicles. Also we need Public Awareness. What david does is brilliant, but the government would be supporting this by running at a massive Public Health campaign and making sure people really know the Health Impacts that idling can have but also generally, about driving their cars but also generally, about driving theircars in but also generally, about driving their cars in towns and cities. Chris says his son goes to school in leicestershi re chris says his son goes to school in leicestershire where he has complete about parents sitting with engines running. Still the worst offenders continue to do so, even though the playground is a few feet away. One person says, the excuses is that the law is not always getting force, surely there are ways to do this but do not involve the country turning into a police state. There are is in we know our lungs are harmed and its only because it is invisible that there is no public outcry about this issue. We are in a climate emergency, why do i sign up to report people was not well, you can get in touch with David Eichmann andrew says, inducements is apparent. Welcome to the new east germany, stellans russia gary says, im amazed and appalled at the number of vehicle idlers. A couple of weeks ago i noticed an suv in the car park with a woman owner twiddling with her phone and still the same half an hour later. I was on my way to the doctor for an asthma assessment and wasnt aware it was against the law. Time to crack down on the selfish act. Near my home, and Ice Cream Van keeps the engine idling for ten to 12 hours a day, what is the legal or environment environmental position for that . An interesting one. There is a very small matter of time, about 20 minutes that they can stay in one place and be idle. But that needs to change as well. Because now you can connect them to the mains. So there is no reason to be burning huge amounts of diesel just to get some ice cream. David says, a brilliant idea, there was a van idling outside my house, i could see the driver talking with a neighbour, they were well into the conversation and thought it could continue for many minutes. I was in two minds as to whether to speak out but decided against it due to the negative possibilities. If i could bea negative possibilities. If i could be a good citizen without risk of reprisal, i would be a good citizen without risk of reprisal, iwould report be a good citizen without risk of reprisal, i would report via picture or video wherever i could with the added bonus of a share of any fine. It isa added bonus of a share of any fine. It is a no brainer, bring it on we have acclimated health emergency. It is a no brainer, bring it on we have acclimated health emergencylj can have acclimated health emergency. can see a lot of people worried about being a police state but it is against the law, we have to stop idling for the sake of the health of our children and for our planet. If people can earn some money on the site, ok, why not . Thank you both very much indeed. Thank you for your company today as well. I will be back at the same time tomorrow. Have a lovely afternoon. Bbc newsroom live is coming up next. Hello. We have had a few showers this morning. Those have been fairly isolated and it was northern and western errors but despite the sunshine, this weather watcher ca ptu red sunshine, this weather watcher captured in london, we had a few showers, you can see people with umbrellas. But we continue with a mixture of sunny spells and showers for the rest of today. Some of them could be quite heavy and even thundery. In the north west of scotland, heavy showers. In the eastern side of england, the odd rumble of thunder mixed in. But elsewhere, dry wit some sunshine at times. Maximum temperatures about 17 to 20. A little bit more fresh compared to yesterday. Through tonight, still some showers across Northern Ireland, Northern England and southern scotland. Elsewhere, clear spells. Could turn a bit chilly into tuesday morning. Temperatures for many into single figures. But it should be a lovely start from most. Lots of sunshine. A few showers dotted around mainly northern and in parts of the uk on tuesday. Elsewhere, some sunshine, temperatures similar to today. Goodbye for now. Youre watching bbc newsroom live. Its11am and these are the main stories this morning Jeremy Corbyn will say the country needs a general election in a speech this morning as he sets out labours plans do everything necessary to stop the uk leaving the eu without a deal. This is not project fear any more. These are real calculations of the impact of no deal and the more we see that, the more people will come together in parliament on a cross party basis to say that we could not tolerate a no deal and all the implications it has. The labour leader is due to start his speech very shortly well bring it to you live. Thames Valley Police has been granted more time to question ten males in relation to the death of pc Andrew Harper in berkshire