Wrong and felt a lot of shame. Afterwards, he said i was to blame for leading him astray. Thejesus fellowship says its committed to helping those whove suffered poor treatment in the past. And do you find this song, relaxing . Ambient music plays what do you think . Researchers have found this particular track could be just as effective as drugs in reducing stress levels in patients having an operation. Get in touch if you use music to help yourself to cope with stressful situations. Hello, welcome to the programme. Were live until am this morning. Do get in touch on all the stories were talking about victorialive. If youre emailing and are happy for us to contact you and maybe want to take part in the Programme Please include your phone number in your message. If you text, youll be charged at the Standard Network rate. First, Anita Mcveigh has the news. Good morning, anita. Good morning, joanna, hi, good morning, everybody. 17 people have been injured, some seriously, in what Police Describe as a horrendous car crash in stevenage. Two vehicles collided yesterday evening at a car event on the streets, hitting spectators watching from the roadside. Police have asked witnesses to share footage of the crash with them. The government is set to commit to £2 billion in pay increases for Public Sector workers. The plans are set to be unveiled as one of theresa mays last acts as Prime Minister. Its the biggest Public Sector pay rise for six years, which comes following concerns that salaries are rising faster in the private sector. In a speech shortly, sajid javid will tell public figures they must moderate their language as part of a greater effort to tackle extremism. The home secretary will say everyone has part to play to stop the spread of poisonous ideologies. His words follow the publication of a poll suggesting 52 of respondents had witnessed extremism. Englands schools desperately need a multi billion pound cash injection thats according to a group of mps. The Education Select Committee found schools were increasingly being asked to deal with growing pupil numbers and rising costs, without adequate resources. Its calling for a ten year funding plan. The government says funding is currently at its highest level, but it does recognise schools are facing budgeting challenges. Drivers caught not wearing a seatbelt could face points on their licence as well as fines, in an attempt to cut deaths on britains roads. Other measures, including banning Young Drivers from the road at night time and teaching children about the dangers of using a phone near the road, are also being considered by the government. Landlords say that a government plan to ban no fault evictions in england will backfire as lower income tenants will find it hard to rent homes. Proposals to scrap section 21 notices would mean landlords could no longer evict tenants without a reason after their fixed term tenancy period ended. The plan aims to give tenants security and halt revenge evictions when tenants are thrown out for complaining. Shows like love island, gavin stacey, gentlemanjack and broadchurch will be on bbc and itvs streaming Service Britbox when it launches this year. Welcome to britbox. The broadcasters are joining forces to set up the Subscription Service in the uk as a rival to the likes of netflix. It will cost £5. 99 per month in hd, launching between october and the end of december. That is a summary of our no news so far today. Back to you, joanna. Thanks, anita. In an exclusive interview, business tycoon Sir Richard Branson tells us that a no deal brexit would be the biggest disaster to hit britain in his lifetime and no sane businessman wouldnt be concerned. He was talking to us to mark the fact that its 50 years tomorrow since man first walked on the moon. Before we hearfrom him, lets take a look at how that day made broadcast history. Lift off, we have a lift off. Columbia, columbia, this is houston. Im supposed to float and. And. Fly me to the moon let me play among the stars. Theres a great deal of contrast in it and currently its upside down. History in the making, of course. Well, chloe tilley has been talking to Sir Richard Branson who told her how the event had inspired his love of space. 50 years ago since the moon landings. I know that you posted a picture on twitter, a very youthful Richard Branson watching that. Was that the moment that you really got excited about space travel . It was. I was 19 years old, i was crowded in front of a small little black and White Television set with my two sisters and parents, and we just marvelled at what neil and buzz had just achieved. I remember going outside and looking up at the moon and thinking, good grief, there is two people actually standing on the moon. And i remember my dad saying, you know, one day you children will be become astronauts. And i really believed him. But decades went by, governments were not interested in making you or me astronauts, or people watching this programme, so 15 years ago, i thought, screw it, lets do it, and thats went down to the local Registry Office and registered the name Virgin Galactic and, being an optimist, virgin intergalactic airways. And we set upon the mission of finding the best engineers in the world to Start Building spaceships and mother ships and rockets and space ports, and its been an exciting 14, 15 years. It is, of course, a challenge isnt it . Because the uk government this year declared a Climate Emergency and they want to be Carbon Neutral by 2050. Thats difficult to square when youre looking at things like space travel and your Virgin Galactic empire. How do you square that . We square it by first of all making clear that space has done more for this earth than almost any other industry. So, you know, like, were putting up a massive array of satellites around the earth which will can help connect the five billion people who are not connected. That will help them with health, it will help them with education and other things. We have managed to bring the price of putting people up into space down to roughly the same price as going to new york and back on a Virgin Atlantic upper class seat, and so dramatically dropped it from what it costs to go up on a nasa spaceship or a russian spaceship. And were also developing, with other people, clean fuels. So we think that we can actually bring the environmental cost down to almost zero. I wanted to ask you, actually, about the cleaner fuels, because i know its back in 2006, wasnt it, that you pledged £i. 6 billion to fight Climate Change. Tell us more about how that money has been used. So, in many different ways, but, i mean, theres one company that particularly excites me. Its called la nzatech. Lanzatech take the waste products from aluminium plants and steel plants and instead ofjust going up chimneys, into the air, it goes through a process and it comes out, ultimately, as jet aviation fuel. And Virgin Atlantic has agreed that we will get that fuel first. And weve already tested one or two flights with it and now its up to lanzatech to Start Building factories next to steel plants and aluminium plants. You know, weve set up the carbon war room, which is working with lots and lots of industries around the world in trying to come up with imaginative ways to tackle Climate Change. Tonight, on my birthday, i go back to Necker Island for a meeting of something called the b team, which is leaders like paul polman from unilever and Arianna Huffington and others, where, as a business community, weve come together to try to push governments towards a clean future. You know, weve been talking to the British Government about introducing something called a clean energy dividend, where each company would be forced to have a dividend against their dirty fuels and to invest that money into clean fuels. So, anyway, were doing what we can. I know that you said in february this year that you wanted to have flown in space by the 50th anniversary of the moon landings. I mean, im guessing nothing is going to go up in space tomorrow. So, when are you expecting to get that going . Well, we decided to move the whole operation to our new space port in new mexico and that were in the process of doing. So its delayed my flight a little bit because, when we get to new mexico, we want to do two or three more tests, final test flights before i go up. But i will be going up in months, not years, and ill be wary to give you a specific date. What do you think Aviation Companies need to do to make sure that the impact of aviation on Climate Change is reduced . Cos were told its one of the most damaging things that we can do. Aviation Companies Must do and are doing a lot. I mean, Virgin Atlantic will have reduced its Carbon Footprint by over 30 by, i think, 2025, by encouraging manufacturers to build the planes from carbon composite materials, not heavy metal, by making the engines more efficient. But, ultimately, the best way of making aviation really clean is for Battery Technology breakthrough to take place so that one day we can actually travel across the atlantic battery powered, and very soon people will be able to travel across the English Channel battery powered. Or, you know, using Companies Like lanzatech with clean fuels. So, lots being done. And, you know, aviation is one thing. Youll find if you leave your air conditioner turned on, thats not good there. Im afraid theres lots of things we need to do, all of us, in order to make sure that we get to that Carbon Neutrality by 2050. I also want to ask you, last week you were warning about the potential disaster for the pound of a no deal brexit. Are you concerned about the impact that could have on your businesses if it happens . Very concerned. I dont think there would be any sane businessmen in britain who wasnt extremely concerned about the impact a no brexit deal would have on their businesses, therefore on their staff, and therefore on the economy as a whole. It will tank the pound against the dollar. It has already been tanked since the referendum. Gone down from 1. 52 to about 1. 23. I think itll go down to parity. So it will be one of the worst disasters that has hit britain in my lifetime. In fact, the worst disaster thats hit britain in my lifetime. So hopefully sense will prevail and, you know, all the various people, whether its the cbi or the bank of england, should be listened to and us business people, and hopefully we can reach a decent agreement with europe. Richard branson, thank you so much for your time, and have a lovely birthday. Thank you so much. Cheers. Sir Richard Branson in an exclusive interview with us. The home secretary says he wants public leaders to show greater moral leadership to help the country tackle the growing rise of extremism. Sajid javid is speaking at an event in central london. We can listen in right now. He wasnt just insulted by we can listen in right now. He wasntjust insulted by a classmate, he was attacked. Not in the 1970s but just a few he was attacked. Not in the 1970s butjust a few months ago. No one can hear his moving story and deny that we still have a problem in this country. And it is notjust racism. With the blind hate of extremism showing its face in many ugly forms. In 2015, we published our Ground Breaking counter extremism strategy. Back then, the Prime Minister led the charge as home secretary and i commend her pioneering work. But four years on its time to take stock and to talk openly about the threat and admit that it has got worse. Yes, progress has been made. But when i hear what happened to that schoolboy, i know that we have to do more. So, we set up that we have to do more. So, we set up the commission for countering extremism to help us do just that andi extremism to help us do just that and i thank them for their work so farand and i thank them for their work so far and while i do welcome their initial findings, they laid far and while i do welcome their initialfindings, they laid bare the ugly truth. Just over half of the respondents to their consultation had witnessed extremism in some way. 0ne had witnessed extremism in some way. One in five had seen it in their own area. Almost a quarter online. The targets a re area. Almost a quarter online. The targets are many and varied and the top group identified by the commission is the most at risk from extremism, everyone. When over half of us having witnessed extremism it has gone from a minority issue to one that affects us all. And the way we all live our lives is under unprecedented attack. People are getting angry about more things. And extremists are quick to try and exploit that. You know, in 2015, our focus was on exploit that. You know, in 2015, our focus was on extreme exploit that. You know, in 2015, our focus was on extreme islamist, particularly the lure of daesh. While the stronghold has been wiped out, the threat certainly remains. But now the fault lines dividing our society have splintered and spread. Reports of far right extremism, anti semitism, anti muslim hatred, theyre all on the rise. Women are being robbed of their opportunities by religious extremists. The internet has further emboldened those who are inclined to hate. Angry words they whip up a climate of fear and incite hate and violence and public disorder, oppression and segregation. Women beaten on a bus because they are gay. Sledgehammer attacks on mosques. Children being forced into marriage. Christians, muslims and jews being slaughtered in sri lanka, christchurch and pittsburgh. Public discourse is hardening and becoming less constructive. Around the world, populism and even open racism have catapulted extremists to power. Now, im proud to say this has not happened in mainstream politics here. We are naturally liberally minded people. We remain the most successful multiracial democracy in the world. Ukip have floundered since they moved further right, with their leader being advised by edl founder Stephen Yaxley lennon, a man who is now behind bars. That decision sparked a wave of resignations and their support has collapsed. And we must give credit where credit is due. So i applaud nigel farage for walking away, branding ukip thugs and extremists. And even though his brexit party has not made my life any easier, i want to be clear, they are not extremists. Because, it doesnt help to exaggerate the problem, to demonise anyone with a different view and to see danger when it is not there. Thankfully, our party has not there. Thankfully, our party has not gone down the same road as much of europe and the us our politics has not gone down. But we must act 110w has not gone down. But we must act now to avoid sliding into the barely masked racism of nationalism. Because there is one thing i know for sure about this country. We are better than that. We wontjust accept a rising anger. We wontjust slap ourselves on our back and talk about the success of our counter extremism strategy. We will leave sajid javid theyre talking about extremism and saying in this country he is comfortable with where we are but we are expecting him to go on to say public figures must moderate their language as part of a greater effort to tackle extremism, and he is expected to say also that he knows what it is like to be told to go back where he came from, following on of course from those comments from donald trump, who has been accused of racism for telling four Democratic Congress women to go back to the countries they originally came from and that is something we are going to be talking about a little bit later on the programme. Do let us know your thoughts on that, the usual ways of getting in touch. Two million Public Sector workers, including Police Officers, soldiers and teachers are to get above inflation pay rises. But critics say the plan isnt properly funded and will lead to cuts elsewhere. Lets get more from our Political Correspondent iain watson. The biggest Public Sector pay rise for six years. Tell us how it breaks down . It will be the biggest pay rise for some years but critics say it is nowhere near enough after those years of austerity. In effect, what the government is offering is above inflation increases for some Public Sector workers, so for civil serva nts Public Sector workers, so for Civil Servants they will get 2 and i the rate of inflation, but for Police Officers they will get 2. 5 . Hopefully we will hear from sajid javid about that later. Similarly, so javid about that later. Similarly, so will those in the military. There will be an even bigger increase for most teachers, round 2. 75 . This data is not supposed to be out until monday but it was leaked to the times but as far as i am aware they are correct. As long as inflation busting increases creates a political challenge for Phillip Hammonds success at number 11 downing st and also for theresa mays success at no 10. Both leadership candidates have made lots of pledges about extra public spending. Now, are they going to put their money where their mouth is . Will they increase departmental budgets, for example, to pay for this extra cash, or are they going to make cuts elsewhere . Thats the most immediate challenge facing them. But beyond that, labour are saying, in the private sector pay increases are running at above 3 , therefore to give Public Sector workers less than 3 at the moment, nonetheless, means many of them will still be struggling to get by. When you talk about the decisions that will have to be taken on where the money is spent, the price tag being put on this is £2 billion. Thats right but we should be clear about this, this isnt going to cost the government £2 billion because, as far as government £2 billion because, as faras im aware, government £2 billion because, as far as im aware, departments are already budgeting for an inflation increase. So, for example, the current rate of inflation is 1. 9 , and im told departments have budgeted for 2 so if someone in the police force for example gets a 2. 5 increase, then obviously the departments are going to have to find the difference. There is a difference between how much it costs to do this and how much actually the departments will have to find. Nonetheless, they will have to find something, and that is a challenge for the next Prime Minister. Thank you very much, iain watson. Coming up. Has President Trump crossed the line this week . Hes now said he disagrees with racist chants from his own supporters against ilhan 0mar one of four Democratic Congresswomen of colour who the us president told to go back. Shes responded saying she thinks the us president is a fascist. Former members of a religious sect known as thejesus army are preparing a group action involving hundreds of alleged abuse victims. In a series of exclusive accounts, the bbc has heard that people growing up in the churchs communal houses suffered sexual, physical and emotional harm on a prolific scale. The claims relate to incidents in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Jon ironmongers report contains references to abuse which you might find disturbing. It isjesus christ who is lord. Now we baptise you. From a tiny baptist sect to one of europes largest religious communities, thejesus army grew in wealth, membership and zeal. But behind its colourful brand of militant evangelism, there were darker forces at work in the churchs communal houses across central england. Weve heard allegations that children were abused on a prolific scale in a variety of ways and by apparently dozens of individuals. He would be very tactile, and that was ruse for touching me and other girls. Roses familyjoined the church in the 1980s when she was a baby. Aged 12, she was separated from her parents and says she began to be groomed by an elder. Weve changed her name and her words are spoken by an actor. At the time, i didnt know what was going on, i hadnt thought or talked about my body, and he used that to molest me and continued to do it every weekend. Then, in her early teens, she says she was targeted again by another prominent figure in the church. He said, come around here, to a deserted place at the back of a building. I had no idea what his intent was, but he proceeded to sexually assault me. I knew something had happened that was wrong and felt a lot of shame. Afterwards he said i was to blame for leading him astray. The bbc has spoken exclusively to more than 20 former community children. Each of them claims to have experienced abuse including the brutal sexualised beating of boys by groups of men and the intense psychological control of young women. The Survivors Group have come together. Some of them have received post cult recovery counselling from gilliejenkinson. Very Vulnerable People were recruited into the jesus army, and so they were put first, and the children werent protected, and so the combination of being in a highly totally controlling environment and then being exposed to sexual abuse is way more than perhaps people have really taken on board. And thejesus army created a sort of environment that abusers could exploit, essentially, if they wanted to is that your understanding . Absolutely. Yeah. Ive heard some people questioning, you know, really, was there something more sinister going on in terms of a group of paedophiles going, wahey, you know, heres the sweet shop. Its a bit like putting the fox in the chicken coop, literally. Youve got all the chickens stick the foxes in and havocs being caused, absolute havoc. The remote village of bugbrooke here in northamptonshire is the birthplace of thejesus fellowship. In fact, some of the leaders refer to it as theirjerusalem, and this secluded mansion is where Community Life first began. It was the first of dozens of Properties Acquired by the church to house hundreds of members in close quarters under a strict regime of work and worship. Community members gave their income to a common purse and everything in the houses was shared, from underwear to parenting. Children were brought up strictly and could be disciplined by any adult. Philippa muller moved into the hall here when she was five. Now, as part of thejesus fellowship Survivors Association, shes seeking damages for as many as 1,000 alleged victims. The christian side to it was really a cover for a cult, and unfortunately brainwashing did occur. We werent allowed to socialise with other children, we didnt have televisions, we didnt have newspapers, often things were censored, even, out of the newspapers. You only really knew what was going on in your own environment. You didnt really question it, and if you did question, you were shut down. And will you say, god, here are my many, many, many sins, but god. At the top of the church, one man pulled the strings the late founder and former businessman noel stanton. Seen here in the late 80s, he was a firebrand who preached daily about sins of the flesh. But now we give our genitals tojesus. After his death, thejesus fellowship gathered sexual abuse allegations against stanton and passed them to the police, the result of a disclosure exercise initiated by the church in 2013 jesus, loved by the father, loved byjesus, the son. Now we can reveal that 43 individuals who were active in the church have been linked to reports of historic sexual and physical abuse. Around ten people have already been convicted, including these two men, now in their 50s, for indecent assaults on boys. Meetings went on for hours, four or five hours sometimes, twice on sundays, and you got people manifesting demons and those people screaming. It was such a scary place to be. Jesus ben thats not his real name was born into the church and brought up within its strict practises. Up within its strict practices. He says he was abused and violated by an adult in the grounds of a Community House when he was six years old. We ended up on our own for some reason and he molested me. Its something that ive tried to block out for the last 30 years. I withdrew into myself as a child and had no friends my own age. Ben says one of his siblings was also seriously abused, raped repeatedly as a teenager, while another was attacked by a now convicted sex offender. I believe that at least five of us have been abused in one way or another. I have anger for the church, i have anger because of what theyve done to my family. In recent years, thejesus army, under the current leader steve moseley, has moved to separate the church from its troubled past. Right now, were going to be talking aboutjustice, becausejustice is a massive issue. But to no end. In may, it announced plans to close facing a renewed inquiry by Northamptonshire Police into historic abuse allegations. Detectives will also examine claims of a cover up by five former senior leaders. The Survivors Association has raised concerns about the level of compensation being proposed by the church. Its preparing Group Legal Action involving hundreds of claimants. However, a spokesman for thejesus fellowship insisted it was committed to provide money and counselling to those who had suffered poor treatment in the past. It said a formal redress scheme had been set up with external stakeholders to ensure everyone was dealt with in a transparent and even handed way. Now on the brink of closure, thejesus army is understood to have accrued assets worth £50 million, but it leaves a harrowing legacy and an unsettled future for its many victims. And if youve been affected by issues in that film, there are a number of organisations and websites that can offer you advice and support. You can find them listed on the bbcs actionline website at bbc. Co. Uk actionline were coming to the end of a tumultuous week in us politics, even by Donald Trumps standards. On wednesday night, the crowd at one of the president s rallies in North Carolina chanted, send her back send her back in reference to ilhan 0mar, a us congresswoman who arrived almost 30 years ago as a child refugee in the united states. Its part of an ongoing dispute between donald trump and four to the countries they came from. Heres a look back at how it all began. It started, as it so often does for donald trump, with a tweet. He took to social media on sunday to call out four Democratic Congresswoman of colour who regularly criticise his government. So interesting to see progressive democrat congresswomen who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world now loudly and viciously telling the people of the united states, the greatest and most powerful nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why dont they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came . Three of the congresswomen, alexandria 0casio cortex, rashida tlaib, and ayanna pressley, were all born in the us. Ilhan 0mar, the other, came to the us as a refugee at the age of 12. They have all called the president racist and have been backed by members of the democratic party. In washington, the house of representatives then formally voted to condemn president donald trump, a very rare symbolic move. These comments from the white house are disgraceful and disgusting and its comments are racist. But the vote went along party lines, with only four republicans joining the democrats in condemning the president. The four women call themselves the squad and pulled together for a joint interview during the week. There is no bottom to the barrel of vitriol that will be used and weaponised to stifle those who want to advance rights for all people in the united states. What did you think when you heard the tweet . This is a distraction. This is a person that really wants to vilify, demonise not only immigrants but even communities of colour. President trump doubled down on twitter, quoting a senator describing the women as the four horsewomen of the apocalypse and calling them whackjobs. Donald Trumps Campaign to run for president in 2020 is well under way, with a rally this week and North Carolina at which he attacked all four women. And tonight i have the suggestion for the hate filled extremists who are constantly trying to tear our country down. They never have anything good to say. That is why i say hey, if they dont like it, let them leave. Let them leave. And his reference to somali born ilhan 0mar sparked a shocking new slogan. Send her back for 13 seconds, president ial silence as donald trump did nothing to calm the crowd. This was ilhan 0mars response. Nothing this says should be taken to heart. We are americans as much as everyone else. This is our country and we are where we belong. Back in the oval office, President Trump tried to distance himself from the chant. When your supporters last night were chanting send her back, why didnt you stop them . Why didnt you ask them to stop . Well, number one, i think i did. I started speaking very quickly. I disagree with it, by the way. But it was quite a chant. And i felt a little bit badly about it. But remember this . Lock her up the 2016 president ial campaign saw crowds at Donald Trumps rallies calling for hillary trump to be sent to prison. As the election comes round again, President Trump is not divisive rhetoric has ensured the battle lines are being drawn once more. We can speak now to clarkjudge,a republican and former speech writer for president Ronald Reagan and allan lichtmann, an american political historian, who wrote the case for impeachment, a book on why he thinks donald trump should be impeached or voted out of office by congress. How did you feel on hearing a crowd chanting centre back at that rally . Let me first correct you on something you said and your setup. He has never said they should be sent back. What he has said in a taunting way is that if they chose, they continue to say things they might want to go back. They continue to say things they might want to go backlj they continue to say things they might want to go back. Ijust they continue to say things they might want to go back. I just want to come back on that, though. What we see with the chance is how it is distilled by a crowd and how they have taken it. That is true. What i think we yesterday is that he was a bit shocked by that himself, and i would expect him to push back. What made you think he was shocked . He stood there and he listened. Made you think he was shocked . He stood there and he listenedm made you think he was shocked . He stood there and he listened. It went over the top and it had an impression of collusion, of choice. Is there not a direct line between the language that donald trump used and what you see at a rally and obviously it is reminiscent of the campaign when he was running against hillary clinton, lock her up . If you dont want that to be a message that is chanted at a rally, then why not use political language to talk about the democratic process and in that context the message would be Something Like vote her out or dont vote for her. Well, it has been going on on both sides for quite a while now even before the term presidency. The democrats have made all sorts of statements about specific republicans and the parties both are regularly charging racism. This is the tone of american politics in our time. It proceeds trump and it will continue on after trump. Walt whitman referred to our democracy and were speaking about the type of american politics. just want to read to you what the federal agency, the us equal employment opportunity, has said specifically about this sort of language. It is responsible for enforcing anti discrimination law. It is written into its guidelines that examples of potentially unlawful conduct and good insults, taunting our ethnic epithets, comments like go back to you came from. Has this president not crossed a line . I think the president is talking about free speech on all sides. It is part of that broader discussion. Allan, how do you respond . There are some people who say that donald trump wants to take as back to the 19505. It is not true. He wants to ta ke 19505. It is not true. He wants to take as back to the 18505. This notion that people of colour should be sent back to where they came from is deeply embedded in the racist history of 19th century america, the idea that this was a white mans republic and people of colour should be sent back to africa. With all due respect, mrjudge, you are wrong. He didnt say if you want to you can go back. He said you should go back. And by the way, three of four of those women were born here in the united states. It is not some foreign, broken country that they should go back to. Plus, here you go again with this what about on both sides. You didnt cite anything from any democrat as deeply racist as what donald trump has broadcast. He has brought the presidency down to a new and horrific low in this country. And then donald trump lied about it. He said, well, i was really unhappy with that chant but i quickly spoke over it. Untrue. The video is crystal clear. He stood there for 13 seconds and let the chance go on. This is typical of donald trump. He will start this racist chant and then say i am really not a fan of theirs. I really didnt do it. And then lie about the fa ct didnt do it. And then lie about the fact that he simply let it go on. And you know we have seen despicable responses from the republicans as well. Lindsey graham said, he wouldnt say send them back if they we re wouldnt say send them back if they were wearing make America Great again hats and agreed with him. So you dont belong in this country u nless you dont belong in this country unless you agree with donald trump. And, by the way, a0 years donald trump attacks everything that was going on in america. He even used the word carnage to describe this country. Does that mean that he should go back to germany . He and his supporters have said there is not a racist bone in his body. That is so wrong. He has been racist throughout his life and he has done because he can get away with it. In the 19705, he profited from discriminating against blacks in his real estate com pa ny, discriminating against blacks in his real estate company, but he reached a settlement with the government and faced no consequences. Hejumped into politics mongering forfive yea rs into politics mongering forfive years the most racist, biggest, most protracted lie in american history, that our first African American president was really born in one of these broken down countries in africa. During the campaign, he demeaned minorities and demeaned women. His comments about a federal judge when he said, he cant reside over my case because his heritages hispanic, the very definition of racism. He does his because he faces no consequences and he thinks it works for him and that is about as low as you can get in american politics. Clark, the house has passed a resolution condemning President Trump for those remarks as racist. I read to you what the federal agency says about the remarks, defining them as racist. Do you accept that these remarks are racist . No, i see them as very much pa rt of racist . No, i see them as very much part of the rough and tumble which you just heard in allans tone and his charges and his over the top allegations. Excuse me, sir. Let me finish here. All of them are true. Mr lipman, i did not interrupt you. You have heard this kind of over the top vitriol. I am not going to go into every single detail right now. We only have a few minutes. But this is a kind of over the top vitriol that has been on their side on the democratic side certainly and to some extent on the republican side in american politics in recent years. And before that. This is the kind of thing that has been part of our discourse. It is not necessarily something that if you are in a more polite environment that britain that you find acceptable, but it is very much a part of american politics. As to mrtrump and much a part of american politics. As to mr trump and racism, i think the re cord to mr trump and racism, i think the record of his presidency is very clear. He has been reaching out to African Americans, he has been a sponsor and pushed through a number of pieces of legislation that are viewed within the African American community. We are out of time for this conversation. Thank you very much. Ijust this conversation. Thank you very much. I just want to read this conversation. Thank you very much. Ijust want to read one comment from neville who has been listening to the conversation. He says, listening to the rally was like something out of 19305 nazi germany. It merely makes me cry. These women are decent, peace loving women who care about vulnerable human beings. Thanks for your comments on that. Keep them coming in. A big increase in demand for special Educational Needs support in schools means councils in england are struggling to meet their legal obligation to provide it, according to a Group Representing them. The county Councils Network says the number of support plans has risen by nearly a half since 201a when new rules came in, stating that young people with disabilities up to the age of 25, rather than just 19, should be given money and other support towards their education. 27 councils who responded to a survey said theyd overspent their 2018 19 sen budgets by a total of £123m. Alicia mccolls son kian has autism and adhd and is on an education, health and care plan. Paul carter is leader of kent county council, who says theyve granted 70 more ehcps since 201a. Ciara lawrence works for mencap alicia. Paul, how much does that translate toa paul, how much does that translate to a neck cost for the council . That represents the net figure. The real figure in the high needs pressures on local authorities up and down the country, in my view, is nearer to £1 billion, if you include the special transport that goes alongside the provision of the education. That was the figure. Many schools through the Schools Forum in local authorities are konta beating towards the high needs funding out of the mainstream budgets through the dedicated schools grant. Intense, that is £9 million on top of a £69 deficit. To be fairto million on top of a £69 deficit. To be fair to government, we did get an additional £3. 5 million in the current year to try to reduce that, but our real overspend is in excess of £20 million. And so is that a sustainable situation . Know, totally unsustainable. The government changed for the right reasons in 201a the education and families act, which gives parents much greater choice in the School Options for their youngsters, and that has had a massive impact in the high needs budget, so what i am saying is mainstream budgets in Mainstream Schools in many local authorities is now being taken out to support the high needs block. Alicia, i know you have been at the sharp end of this because of the needs of your son. How difficult was it to get funding for him . The funding comes with assessing a childs needs properly and local authorities in general know that if they carry out a full assessment of a child it will increase the cost of their support, so increase the cost of their support, so without the assessments that i paid for myself and without going to the court process, he wouldnt have got the support he needed, so the funding isa got the support he needed, so the funding is a massive issue. It is affecting children. And although the funding keeps increasing year on year, it is required to meet the needs of these children. Paul, is not something that is happening in kent, that assessments arent being done properly to try to keep the numbers down . Have thresholds gone up of where someone has to be to qualify for support . It is now a state Mental Health need as well as a statement of educational need. At the educational act grants much greater power to parents to be given greater power to parents to be given greater choice in the education provision. They need to get a ehcp, so there are all sorts of reasons why pa rents so there are all sorts of reasons why parents now want to get a ehcp to try and endeavour to get the very best education for their youngster, so that has gone up enormously in recent yea rs, so that has gone up enormously in recent years, since the 201a act, and is continuing to do so. Recent years, since the 201a act, and is continuing to do sol disagree, actually. It is not about getting the very best education, it is about getting the education to meet your tapas magnets. I think in the case of my son he was levelled as having a behaviour disorder and he runs out of class and he causes all of these problems, but at the time he had undiagnosed speech and anguish disorder so you know how difficult it is when you go to a different country and you cant understand a line which so imagine trying to understand that each and keep up with your peers and it being so keep up with your peers and it being so hard to do so and it is going to because behavioural problems. To have wa nted because behavioural problems. To have wanted to go to get these diagnoses than . I have been to a tribunal for times to get and reinstate support that has been taken reinstate support that has been ta ken away and reinstate support that has been taken away and i actually thought it was 40,000 but in a meeting on wednesday i went to my statements and it is over £60,000 that it has cost me. So i should have said the best education and support, but the support was the education package, to be fair. The government must fund this. It will bankrupt local government and go on diminishing the amount of money mention schools have. You work for a and you have effectively come out of the other side of this in terms of your education because when you had supported supper actually then at 16 and now it has gone up to 25. What is your perspective on of this . From my own perspective, i have a learning disability myself. I struggled at Mainstream School many, many years ago the school labelled me as thick and stupid and they didnt give me the support that i needed. I then went to a special school because i was told that would be the best place for me. So at the age of 16, my statement finished and from then on my family where my support people. And i was denied any support people. And i was denied any support because i was known as not legible. I never got to have support. I get dla now because my mum helped me to apply for dli sol do get a little better benefit but overall my family are my support because i havent been able to get it anywhere else. And so the situation has changed since 201a people are eligible for support all the way up to 25, but obviously that has created a headache in terms of the funding, but in terms of the impact on individual lives to someone impact on individual lives to someone getting the support all the way through, how do you see it . L think it is up to the individual and theirfamily to think it is up to the individual and their family to decide what is best for them because they know their trial, they know what is best for their child and to get the right support the family needs to make the decision of what is right for them so decision of what is right for them sol decision of what is right for them so i believe it is a personal decision of the family and the child and the individual. Alicia, £60,000 you have spent fighting for your child to get what is right for him. How do you feel about where you are now . Is it getting what is right for him . He has coming yet, because it isa him . He has coming yet, because it is a legal document and it has to be provided, the ehcp. Unfortunately, there are lots of families were not as fortunate as me and maybe also have learning difficulties themselves and maybe they dont have a Good Relationship with the school and maybe they dont have access to the information order to get the right support and so are just having a ehcp doesnt guarantee the chair will get the right support because of local authority checking on their responsibilities but i understand why because the budget isjust not big enough. They dont have enough money. Although it is not acceptable, it is logical. Ideal to there and that situation. 20 very much forjoining us. Now, have a listen to this. Relaxing music plays you feeling relaxed, soothed . According to new research, this song by the manchester band, marconi union, described as the worlds most relaxing song, can be just as effective in soothing patients nerves before surgery as medication. Patients in a small us trial were either given the drug midazolam or played the song weightless for three minutes, while having an anaesthetic to numb a region of the body. Patient anxiety reduced by the same amount in both groups. Heres the song, weightless. Music weightless by marconi union. Richard talbot and Duncan Meadows are members of marconi union, and lyz cooper is a sound therapist who collaborated with the band when the song originally came out. Welcome, all of you. Richard and duncan, how did you go about deciding what was going to be a piece of music that would be incredibly relaxing . Well, obviously from the start we received a lot of consultation from lyz, he gave us some fundamentals into sound therapy and we wrote a piece of music and relatively similar ways to how we do normally. So we built layers of sound and added the piano and guitars. We thought about a process called entrainment, which we can talk about later as well. What do you think about the fact that your piece of music has been used to calm nerves in preoperational patients and it has been found to be as drugs . It is interesting because we we re drugs . It is interesting because we were contacted by someone involved in the study a couple of years ago this asking if we were happy for the music to be used, so it is great to finally see the results. And, lyz, you have worked with the band on how they came up with this piece of music. What was a criteria for you . How do you work out what is gone to relax people . Well, we have done research over the last 25 years at the academy of sound therapy and so basically when we were approached, we had own research and also Case Study Research to inform basically what goes into a piece of music, so i call them sonic vitamins, and so the brief was to create a really relaxing piece, so we had a few meetings and talks about the Different Properties that needed to go into the piece, as well as obviously the band, as they have already said, have got a lot of experience in creating relaxing music anyway and i added the sonic vitamins in. We discussed the entrainment process, so that is the way that brainwaves, you can actually help to slow the system down over a period of time by allowing the music to slow in a certain way. Sorry to interrupt. It is all sounding scientifically based, because people find Different Things relaxing, dont they . Some people will find one piece of music intensely annoying, and i am sure some people find the sort of music, designed to relax you, quite the opposite. But you are saying that it touches something fundamental in us, does it . Well, this is it. Basically, we are wired to respond to sounds in certain ways. That is a general rule of thumb. That we use as part of the music that we design. But also, like you say, some people are going to be irritated, and that is going to be the same with any piece of music, but we use this general role as a foundation for building a piece. Richard and duggan, u boat said yes when i said that some people might be irritated by it. Cameo, definitely. People like wildly Different Things to relax to our use music in so many different ways and so much of that is about individual taste. It is pretty ha rd to is about individual taste. It is pretty hard to predict, to be honest. Rose on e mails that i had super high risk identical triplet girls he required a short notice section in fabry, nine weeks prematurely. When i walked into the theatre i was massively overwhelmed by the sheer number of people involved in the operation, 27 in all. 0nce involved in the operation, 27 in all. Once i was on the operating table, my husband played Classical Music to the theatre sound system. I am sure the music helped as i was serena, and relaxed throughout the procedure, even the medical team said how relaxing they found the music. A lot of people like your music, marconi union. 50 million plays a new chip, 65 million on sparta five. Thank you all very much for joining sparta five. Thank you all very much forjoining us. And thank you for your company today. Bbc newsroom live is coming up next. Thank you for your company today. Have a good day. Rain is moving northward into Northern Ireland, into central and southern areas of scotland during the afternoon. Further north, there will be something a little bit drier and brighter. Some showers here. Even as a dream unclear to the north there will be some heavy and thundery showers and maximum temperatures today getting up to 1621dc. Watch temperatures today getting up to 16 21dc. Watch out for those thunderstorms coming to the latter pa rt thunderstorms coming to the latter part of this afternoon into this evening across Northern Ireland and into western parts of scotland. For the rain spreads into the south east. Welcome rain in the south east. Welcome rain in the south east of england. 13 17dc. A wormlike to come in the south east. And during the saturday rain clears eastwards and will be replaced by showers moving from west to east and something drier and brighter later on in the day. By sunday, more rain into Northern Ireland later on. Goodbye. Youre watching bbc newsroom live it511am and these are the main stories this morning. 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