Now on bbc news, its extra time with rob bonnet. Welcome to extra time. I am rob bonnet. In many ways, the most anticipated game might not be the final but this weekend pakistan versus india, which someone described something between sport and war. The stadium holds only 25,000 but they were a million application. My guest will be there. Wasim khan is the managing director of the cricket bonn and he wants pakistan to win the cup but what is his Long Term Plan for pakistani cricket . Rocky units said that they dump it a war. But it is notjust sport either. It is somewhere in between. The former cricketer. Particularly the players, they all try to play it down because there is so much right emotion running through india versus pakistan, if you take in history and what is going on that there is so many what is going on that there is so ma ny fa cets what is going on that there is so many facets of play and because the health of the nation isjudged by how well india are performing or pakistan are performing it does mean a lot more to many people so the players have the responsibility to keep it at sport as much as possible. Couple dev, the mockup winning captain, said it did look like a winning captain, said it did look likea warand winning captain, said it did look like a war and we were expected more to harm the pakistani players than when a match. It is pretty physical. It is an interesting comment, particularly in the fact that we had more fast bowlers than england did. It just reiterates more fast bowlers than england did. Itjust reiterates the importance of whether we are playing a bilateral series or an icc. It has been more than a game. Just a physical can get out there . Dev talking about entering players, sledging about as well . I suspect the context is more about playing as hard as possible and armoury of the fast bowler is to u nsettle and armoury of the fast bowler is to unsettle the batsmen. Normalfast bowlers will do whatever they can to get the edge on batsmen. Your Prime Minister, imran khan, said cricket isa minister, imran khan, said cricket is a pressure minister, imran khan, said cricket is a pressure game minister, imran khan, said cricket is a pressure game and when it comes to india versus pakistan the pressure is doubled. There is a psychological element. Definitely. In previous mocku ps psychological element. Definitely. In previous mockups and icc tournaments, the rubber of the green, virat kohli spoke about the fa ct green, virat kohli spoke about the fact that we treat it as another game and where we fall a little bit is the fact that we place that same level of pressure to win that game because we know it means so much and perhaps we can take a leaf out of their book. The champions trophy went two years ago, pakistan will ta ke went two years ago, pakistan will take heart from that and be ready for when we play on the 16th of june. There is a wider political context. It is a sports fixture which is deeply political. Six months, four months ago in fact, there were calls for this upcoming wargame to be called off after military concentrations between india and pakistan, it left a0 indian soldiers dead. Was there a possibility it mightve been called within the welcome context . Called off. For us it was massively important to continue paying. We believe that cricket can bridge many gaps. It can be that as a way of bringing countries together rather than dividing them so for us it was neverin than dividing them so for us it was never in doubt about whether were going to play or not. They were reservations from the indian side and perhaps a lot of emotions running role about what happened. Understandably. Understandably, from our point of view, we said cricket is very much a healing power and we wa nted is very much a healing power and we wanted to always play india and continue to play them. You believe in cricket diplomacy . Absolutely. But the evidence is, another quote, from the Indian Sports minister who says india would not play pakistan ina says india would not play pakistan in a bilateral series while cross border terror from pakistan remains. Terror and sport can go hand in hand. Remains. Terror and sport can go handinhand. Absolutely and who would argue with that. For us, as a country that has been starved of cricket for a very long time and knows what cricket means to both nations, we generally believe that cricket has so much to offer and so much in terms of bringing countries together. The players actually get on very well with each other. It is well enough believing in where are the tangible results . Every time the countries play against each other, it is proven that the whole world is watching and it has been a great spectacle for the game. If youre looking for tangible results, you can see the passion and energy of what it means for both nations. It is sport at its finest. When you see great rivalries. Pakistan and india, i would defy anyone saying that there is a greater rivalry when we play cricket. More than the ashes. Again, a billion people in india and the diaspora around the world. It means so much more and because of the historical context, it is one way of i guess each nation coming together inside of an act of some type of competition where it also encompasses the passion of the nation and i think that cricket means so much to both sets of fans and countries, it is a main spot in both countries. Lets talk about your relationship with imran khan, now the countries are Prime Minister and former great all rounder. It is ha rd to and former great all rounder. It is hard to believe he does not have influence on the cricket policies. The Prime Minister has historically been a patron of the cricket board in terms of the day to day, he has an opinion, of course. Does he interfere . Not at all but you would expect him to have an opinion. He is coming from a position, coming with informed ideas because he knows the game inside out and he is nice to bounce things off it. But it will say it is up to you guys regarding the direction. How comfortable will he be watching this game because the fallout, one way or the other, it will land on your desk. It is a highly pressurised game. What we tried to move away from the be all and end but you cannot get from the fa ct and end but you cannot get from the fact that supporters across both countries will be glued to their tv sets and this is what matters most. But in terms of landing on our desk, what is more important for me now is to make sure we have a really good mockup campaign and we go into the endgame to qualify for the semifinals because a bigger inch of all of us, Everything Else will be forgotten all of us, Everything Else will be fo rg otte n if all of us, Everything Else will be forgotten if we left the welcome. What would that mean to your country . It would be incredible. Lifting the champions trophy is two yea rs lifting the champions trophy is two years ago when nobody thought we had a chance, it would have a huge boost to the nation. What is a record against india . To the nation. What is a record against india . Wreckers to the nation. What is a record against india . Wreckers have to be broken at some stage. Just remind us . 6l. Our argument would be we wonder the final so we would accept that any day of the week. It is difficult to imagine though you sitting there just enjoying the moment. There is a huge amount of pressure and what i have realised in my four month and pakistan already is that every night there are cricket talks shows on, everybody is interested in it in the country. Everything has an impact and effect on the people within the country which ultimately has an effect on me. I have gone from a culture and environment in england now being situated in pakistan where it is all consuming every single day. In the near future, consuming every single day. In the nearfuture, in fact consuming every single day. In the near future, in fact it has really been consuming you, the difficulty pakistan faces and that is attracting test teams into your country. No test cricket since the terrorist attack on a sri lankan bus in 2009. Give us an hour late. We had at the Pakistan Super League and brought eight games back to pakistan. From the uae. We have president ial style security set up for players who were there. Fast security repulsive been very good so we have an independent consultant who works with us and provides reports to the other countries. He is well recognised by the federation of cricket. The cricket association, so all the player associations around the world. The same consultant is employed by other nations as well. The reports have been very, very positive over the last few years. What about reports in the media, for example that you have made an offer to sri lanka and that south africa are a strong possibility for next year and in the mid term it is all about england australia. Give us a Progress Report specifically on which countries are likely to engage in test match to is in pakistan. We have got sri lanka touring potentially touring pakistan in september october. Touring potentially touring pakistan in september october. These are not eua fixtures. They are still deemed to be home series. But we have really started the dialogue and we are opting it after the world cup. The normal protocol is you invite the other nations and their security managers to come over and have a look at what the security plans are, what reassurances we can provide and that is a step we will take. We do not want to look too far ahead. You wanted to go well. Bangladesh in january so ahead. You wanted to go well. Bangladesh injanuary so before we can bangladesh injanuary so before we ca n start bangladesh injanuary so before we can start thinking about australia and england, we need to get these things right first. South africa similarly, strong support from them and the other nations are trying to help bring cricket back to the country but the way to deal with this is take small steps and sri la nka this is take small steps and sri lanka is the next step. This is take small steps and sri lanka is the next steplj this is take small steps and sri lanka is the next step. I understand but there is a perception issue, people think of pakistan as a hostile place especially to foreigners. How difficult is it to correct that . Is it accurate . I would say it is inaccurate. If you look at the levels of incidence in major cities across pakistan over the last two years, for example, very, very minimal and a lot of the issues are confined to certain parts, cashmere in the north west, for instance. But actually the major cities have been incident free for quite a period of time and security repulsive been good. Things have settled down a huge amount but the perception remains because we have no marginfor perception remains because we have no margin for error. So when an incident takes place anyway, it straightaway, this could happen in a major city. Having lived there now people could argue, there is a bigger threat for white westerners than for yourself because your origins are from pakistan but i have been at apples in islamabad, karachi and you have backpackers everywhere and you have backpackers everywhere andi and you have backpackers everywhere and i make an effort to speak to them, germans and australians, men and women travelling around pakistan incident free, they have loved their time, blogging about it. Hence why i say it is about baby steps. No point thinking three years time, england australia, we have to host successfully and persuade them to come. Show them what we can do. The plan is to bring them to pakistan next year. And the test will be how many of the west nations are willing to come for an extended period of time. It should be said that a number of english players have already played. We had 14 players involved from england. Of which four of five came to pakistan but for us it is just making sure that we can convince them to come and then provide everything we can around our security. The challenge for us is a lwa ys security. The challenge for us is always trying to give them enough normality so they do not feel they are confined to their hotel. L challenge in telling officials from other boards that there is something in itfor other boards that there is something in it for them. What can you offer them . What is the bonus . I think the bigger thing is about why it is important to try to get cricket into pakistan because i think everyone has brought into the idea of trying to get cricket back into the country is critical in terms of pakistans standing in the world game. If we dont have cricket in those countries, we are becoming weaker in International Cricket. I would flip that around and say, actually eve ryo ne that around and say, actually everyone has brought into the fact that want to support is bringing cricket back and ourjob is to convince them to take those baby steps and make sure all those processes a re steps and make sure all those processes are right so we can get the first nation back and look to the first nation back and look to the future. Is your government onside with this . Absolutely. We have a Prime Minister who knows what it means. He has been fighting for many years to get cricket back. And he is fully behind us cricket back. And he is fully behind us in terms of the pcb and what we are trying to do. Pakistani cricket also has an image problem in terms of corruption. In incident nine yea rs of corruption. In incident nine years ago with the imprisonment of three players including the full conspiracy charges. How confident are you now that pakistani cricket is clear. The question is how confident we are that cricket is clear. We are not devolving responsibility, we need to keep our house in order. But the focus has been on pakistan in the past. Probably had greater focus on pakistan because there have been rumours around in terms of impact on cricket and what is going on. But in terms of an Anticorruption Programme and education we have made sure that we are now able to embed that in a lower level in our Academy Programmes because it is critical that we start to educate them about the choices they make when they step up. What we dont want to do was to get them playing International Cricket and then start thinking about the choices to make. They need to understand the consequences. Dont you need to pay your players more in order to allow them to resist temptation . The central contracts are now higher than they have ever been. How do they rate internationally . A little bit apples and pears because a lot relies on broadcasting money, for example. And money we are able to bring in. Not having a home series has an impact on our coffers. Relatively, i think we pay well. We have increased the money. There have been no complaints from players which is always a good sign. And we pay good bonuses and we paid match fees and Everything Else on top. But that is all we can do. Try to improve that. But if your players could play the ipl they could earn a lot more. They would and that is why we need to look at how we play these guys. But you need the government to allow them to play there as well. It is actually the Indian Government in terms of visas et cetera. We are open to the idea. As we said, we have no issues in touring india or india touring us but it is the restrictions placed on pakistani players. But there is a big issue and the bigger issue is that the ipl is a fantastic tournament and you can see how the cricket of english players has involved immensely being involved in these tournaments. 0ur players are missing out on that, in terms of playing against the world s best under high pressure. We are trying to recreate that as much as possible. Muhammad has son, he has come to our Academy System and he was given a platform to perform and now he has been picked up and selected for the world cup. We are in the middle of a world cup. What should we do about corruption in the world cup itself. Are you confident that it world cup itself. Are you confident thatitis world cup itself. Are you confident that it is clear . The icc has taken massive steps in terms of working with each of the issues. They are looking at all the different possible avenues for corrupters to come in and work within the world cup. That i think what has happened now is that intelligence that the icc now has, working with all the nations, has increased and gotten better and everybody is working collaboratively to identify potential perpetrators so that we can actually single them out and make sure that they are monitored. But i am confident that the icc will be as risk free as possible than any other tournament has been in terms of the icc. In the close of this insta view, lets summarise your major tasks. Are you on a Legacy Mission . You have a three month Year Contract and you are six months into it. That is not a locking time to build something permanent and long term. Build something permanent and longterm. There are probably a few key areas for me. To streamline the pcb. Is it cumbersome . Yes. We have no International Cricket players but we have eight international grounds. Trying to streamline and become more efficient with that in terms of having a Clear Strategy so there is no strategy in place and we want a clear five year strategy. Im sure a lot of vested interest. When you make enemies . There will always be some. We know and it has been well documented around corruption, various other things existing within the main parts of society within pakistan that i know the Prime Minister has spoken about. We want to eradicate that within cricket. How do you do that . All you can do is try to stay focused on what you wa nt to is try to stay focused on what you want to do. If you do that, naturally people who resist the most, they are the ones who perhaps will be the ones most resistant. We need to remove them and move them out of the way so that we can progress forward and move pakistan cricket forward which is the reason why i am here. There have been many laws that make many opinions over me coming in and i have been viewed as a foreigner because i am a british born pakistani. Has been a lot of focus and media attention. Quite relentless. Any opposition . Yes. Ready relentless. People with their own agendas who try to pursue their own agendas who try to pursue the fact that i have come in from the fact that i have come in from the outside. But i have come in very focused and driven about what needs to get done and perhaps that is the issue. Do you have a thick skin . I have developed one since going there. Every night there are two cricket shows and you would be brushing your teeth at night and hear your name. It might be something derogative but. Look, for me the reason why people have issuesis for me the reason why people have issues is because changes happening and normally resistance is probably more there than there is anywhere else. I am comfortable in terms of where we are trying to get. What does cricket mean to pakistan . We touched on that already. It would be pa rt touched on that already. It would be part of the thought that shapes whatever it is you want to achieve is managing director. Everywhere i 90, is managing director. Everywhere i go, the one thing that supporters at airports or wherever talk to you about is that we need to get cricket back. We need to get cricket back. It impacts on a number of levels. From the grassroots perspective and we know in terms of the ecb and the programmes they run here that having role models that Young Children can aspire to, men and women, has a huge impact in terms of participation. Kids then want to go on and play. So we could end up losing generations because we do not have the role models within the country who kids can go along to International Venues in our country and watch players play. From the perspective it is critical. For the older generation who grew up watching cricket, you know. Tough times in terms of economics within the country, tough times in terms of the economy and were just trying to take things out but it will take time to in the meantime you always made things that will make people feel good. At the moment they are glued to the television when we play in the uae. It is demoralising for fans to set 1000 miles away while the hearers play in stadiums in front of one man and his dog. We know from the psl where we had thousands of people turn up every day. We will fill stadiums for test matches. We need to continue to focus on that because health of the nation is dependent on cricket as much as anything because of how important and how much it means to people. Lets finish with a quote from the sports journalist. He wrote that cricket is played by the army and the taliban. Enjoyed by all the pakistans set and sects and religion. That sums it up, doesnt it . Also the importance of womens cricket. We have begun to build that up cricket. We have begun to build that up and we have a fantastic womens Selection Panel now led by a former player for the womens team in pakistan. It is important in terms of the reflection it has on society in terms of valuing women within Pakistani Society and the better the women do the more role models we create and the more girls who will aspire to and be inspired by the women players to one of our big goals is to try and raise the profile of the womens game within the country. Are you comfortable with resistance to that . If there is any it does not bother me. Much of the time that will be cultural but only certain sects. Pakistan is a thriving and modern nation in terms of its young people. I think there isa of its young people. I think there is a statistic that Something Like 70 of its population is under the age of 30. There is a huge cafe restau ra nt age of 30. There is a huge cafe restaurant culture age of 30. There is a huge cafe restau ra nt culture a nd age of 30. There is a huge cafe restaurant culture and people want to see change, they want more equality. And therefore our womens game and are womens cricketers can lead the way and that is one of our goals. Thank you very much for joining us. Some really miserable weather out there at the moment, pouring with rain across the north, but its notjust here in the uk where were getting the really unsettled weather. In fact, much of western europe, all the way down to spain and portugal are experiencing below average temperatures and quite changeable weather. Now theres a big low pressure which is stuck across northern france, just around the channel here, and for as long as this low pressure is here, things arent going to change. It will remain very, very unsettled. The winds are coming in from the north across western parts of europe but the winds will also have to swing back around again. And theyre blowing out of the south across central and eastern parts of the continent where theres a relentless heatwave. Temperatures in the mid 30s. So its this sort of the yin and the yang of weather. One side of europe is hot and sunny, the other side of europe is paying for it and its cool and very, very wet. So heres the rain, early hours of wednesday morning across northern parts of england, wales as well. The low pressure, weve already established that, its parked itself across this part of europe. So you can see spells of unsettled weather there also across parts of germany as well. And also well see some thunderstorms drifting out of the south and they will affect southern portions of the uk. Now notice a bit of a lull in the intensity of the rain across the north, but that will get heavier later on wednesday. Now these blobs here, these are showers. Well see thunderstorms developing almost anywhere across the southern portion of the uk. There could be some really nasty downpours. Now notice how this rain gets heavier as we go into the afternoon, quite menacing, threatening rain clouds there out in the north sea. And all of thats just going to come in and bring a real deluge to some parts of northern england, and the rain will be reaching eastern scotland and parts of North Eastern england as well. So a wet wednesday on the way. Heres a look at thursday. The weather fronts still with us. And you can see the winds blowing around like so, that low pressures parked itself across the uk. To the south, a few sunny spells, yes, but also some thunderstorms. The temperatures ia, 15, 16 degrees, its closer to end of april, may temperatures, really. So the low will wobble around the uk, bringing us again spells of rain and showers as we head towards the end of the week. Improving a little bit across europe. But on balance, i think well just call it unsettled, really, as we head into the weekend. 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