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People with cancer. And our panel of guests examine uk french relations, and why roger has upset iran. That is in half an hour. Rusher. Good morning and welcome to bbc news. Many federal Government Services across the United States have shut down after politicians in washington failed to pass a spending bill. Hundreds of thousands of workers employed by federal agencies are being sent home until a compromise can be found. However, essential Services Including National Security and air Traffic Control will continue. The last Government Shutdown in 2013 lasted 16 days. Sarah corker reports. Its a Government Shutdown nobody wanted. It went to the wire but there was no last minute deal. As democrats rallied on capitol hill, inside the senate, Republican Leaders couldnt secure enough votes to pass a spending bill to extend the funding of federal agencies. On this vote, the ayes are 50, nays are 49. The motion is not agreed. Three fifths of the senators duly chosen and sworn not having voted in the affirmative, the motion is not agreed to. Now the Trump Administration faces an embarrassing shutdown. What we have just witnessed on the floor was a cynical decision by Senate Democrats to shove aside millions of americans for the sake of irresponsible political games. The Government Shutdown was 100 avoidable. President trump, if you are listening, i am urging you, please take yes for an answer. The way things went today, the way you turned from a bipartisan deal, its almost as if you were rooting for a shutdown. At the centre of all of this, a row over immigration and the so called dreamers. Democrats had demanded the bill included protection from deportation for 700,000 young, undocumented immigrants who came to the us as children. After the senate vote, the white house released this strongly worded statement the last Government Shutdown was in 2013 and lasted 16 days. It means federal offices and services will close and thousands of staff placed on temporary unpaid leave as early as monday. Military operations, though, will continue. Republicans and democrats have traded blame for this crisis. Neither side wants to be held accountable for closing the government, but a financial shutdown begins on the First Anniversary of Donald Trumps inauguration as president. A short time ago i spoke to the mallory factor, a republican to mallory factor, a republican commentator and academic. He told me how the Government Shutdown could do more harm to the democrats. Well, i brought a little quote with me here. A democrat who is up for election characterised the shutdown as people running for president for president while trying to find their bases. She went on to say that if they believe they sell out the dreamers, this is a quote, hispanic voters might be less energised the turnout in 2018. This is all about 2018. Because there are midterm elections, 3a senate seats and all the house seats are up. 34 senate seats, and eight of them are republican seats. 26 are independent and democrat. So it is in a sense a tough election for the democrats in terms of numbers, but coming halfway through the first s president the first term. The they are in charge of the white house, senate and congress. The republicans only have 51. But five of them went and voted with the democrats, and five democrats voted with the republicans. It didnt matter. That still was not 60. But you could still have got the majority, you are saying you could not have voted . That is the problem. It isa not have voted . That is the problem. It is a 60 vote majority that it ta kes. It is a 60 vote majority that it takes. Nonetheless, for all that detail, is that how i will be perceived by American Voters . Some other polls, just before the shutdown were saying that actually, the majority appear to put the blame, as chuck schumer, the minority democrat leader in the senate dead overnight, on the president s shoulders. Obviously, schumer is going to try to put it on the president s shoulders, and the president is going to try to put it on the democrats. Trump is calling it the schumer shutdown, and schumer is calling it the trump shutdown. I think that pretty much open. What is important to know is, all the Central Services will continue. But i have a question that i am trying to deal with. Why is the government doing nonessential services to begin with . That is a question they will have to a nswer that is a question they will have to answer when they all wake up in the morning with a bit of a hangover, i should think nottsjinking, but they did not get enough sleep, i would think. You raise the question of the dreamers, these people who came to the United States, their pa rents came to the United States, their parents probably came illegally, they did not have documentation and have now grown up. They did not have documentation and have now grown up. President 0bama effectively gave him a hail mary pass, saying they wanted to give them the opportunity to stay here and live the american dream, hence the phrase dreamers. President rob ended that. Is that not a consequence of this decision . Not to disagree with you, but he has not ended it. It will continue on until march seven, so there is still plenty of time. But his intention is to finish that. His intention is to do something else. I dont know what that is. No, he has not told anybody. But it has not expired yet. This is a political play on both sides. But he cant afford to lose the hispanic vote any more than the democrats, can he . People likejeb bush when he was running for the nomination said the hispanic vote was the future. People like you, with great respect, a white anglo saxon protestant, what they used to call wasps, are to become more of a minority in the future. Youre absolutely right. He got the hispanic vote, and more of the women vote tha n hispanic vote, and more of the women vote than was expected. But of the senator you quoted was right and the hispanic vote less likely to turn out the democrats if they have failed to protect the dreamers, well, if the president is getting the blame for that, wouldnt they be less likely to vote for his republicans . Right, but they are losing some of their core constituencies in the Battle Ground states, that union worker, that middle class person. There is a famous Political Consultants called pat cordell, the consultant of the president ial candidate mcgovern and the president jimmy carter. He is a tried and true democrat and says he was always be a democrat. However, he says the Democratic Party has left him. That is what Ronald Reagan used to say. That is right. And you think that is happening again . M used to say. That is right. And you think that is happening again . It is happening again for a segment, and if the democrats are going to win in two and three quarters years from now, the presidency, which i dont think they will, they will have to get that group. But right now, it is trying to see who can be as far left as possible, and they want to go to the left of corbyn here, and you are seeing bernie sanders, elizabeth warren, i could go on and on. Let me ask you finally, briefly, have we not been overshadowed by the shutdown, im sure would be talking about an assessment of trumps first year. In summary, how do you think he has done . He has offended an enormous amount of people. He has gotten a lot of people very angry at him, but he has passed and signed an enormous amount of legislation, and thatis enormous amount of legislation, and that is what hes going to begin my ultimately. People say he is not president ial. The point is, heres the president , maybe is changing under him. Maybe president ial is changing under him. I will give you a quick few things i will rattle off. The Arctic National Wildlife Reserve drilling, keystone pipeline, paris agreement, which is getting us out of. Nafta, transpacific partnership, and 19 judges out of. Nafta, transpacific partnership, and 19judges confirmed to the Appeals Court where 0bama and bush had, like, three and five. That is huge. A lot of people dont like what he does, that is the problem. Elections have consequences. Let me bring you some breaking news now, just coming in from dublin. This is that only one candidate has been nominated to succeed gerry adams is president of sinn fein, and therefore the dublin member of the dail, mary lou mcdonald, who sits for a dublin constituency, is the candidate who will succeed him. She comes from a middle class background in dublin, so she is not associated with the troubles, and she will be formally elected as the Party President at a special conference next month. That is marylou mcdonald, who is effectively becoming president she has to get through the formalities, but is the only candidate nominated cash she has to go through the formalities, but will become the next president of sinn fein. British tourists injamaica are being advised not to leave their resorts unsupervised, after a state of emergency was declared in the area around the montego bay. Its one of the islands most popular tourist destinations but theres been a recent rise in violent crime. Nick davis reports. For a country that depends on tourism, the pictures of troops on the streets in montego bay, jamaicas biggest resort, isnt ideal, but the government says it is something that needs to be done. The Security Forces are expected and have been directed to treat citizens with respect and protect the dignity and safety of all. Most of the tourists who visit montego bay and much of the north coast stay in gated or guarded all Inclusive Hotels where security isnt an issue. But crime in the city has spiked. Last year saw over 1,600 people murdered in jamaica. 335 of them in stjames, the area where montego bay is. Most of the crime is gang related and focused in a small number of communities. The Foreign Office has advised holidaymakers that they should only travel to and from the airport to their hotels and when they do take excursions, to make sure they are arranged by official tour reps. The Authorities Say there will be more roadblocks and vehicle searches as they go after the gangs and their guns. A similar state of emergency in 2010, in kingston, saw the murder rate drop to its lowest levels in years, a statistic that meant lives saved. In montego bay its hoped the same will happen again. The french president has suggested the uk could get a bespoke trade deal with the European Union after brexit, but again warned that britain would not have full access to the Single Market unless it accepted its rules. In an interview to be broadcast in full on the Andrew Marr Show tomorrow, Emmanuel Macron said he respected, but regretted, the brexit vote, but the eu would love to welcome the uk back. Bespoke special solution for britain . Sure, but i take these two references, because this special way should be consistent with the preservation of the Single Market and our collective interests. You should understand that you cannot, by definition, have full access to the Single Market if you dont tick the box. And to get full access to the Single Market you need contribution to the budget and you have to accept. The freedoms. The freedoms and the four pillars and you have to accept the jurisdiction. As soon as you decide not to join these preconditions its not a full access. So its something perhaps between this full access and a trade agreement. Emmanuel mayu ka Emmanuel Mayuka on talking to andrew marr. A while ago, i asked our correspondent emma va rdy marr. A while ago, i asked our correspondent emma vardy whether president macron was offering britain any thing new. He was echoing the warnings that the eu 27 have already given us, if you wa nt full eu 27 have already given us, if you want full access to the Single Market, you have to abide by those rules, freedom of movement, the jurisdiction of the European Court ofjustice, and those red lions theresa may has already set out, saying when we leave, we are also leaving the Single Market, and rule structure follows that. So in one sense he is reiterating the red lions we have already seen, but i think we can take from this is that macron is supportive of britain getting this bespoke trade deal, which theresa may has said we want what we leave the eu. It means we will not be forced into accepting an off the shelf deal such as canada has. Theresa may wants our bespoke deal to go much further. The tension will lie onjust how deal to go much further. The tension will lie on just how much compromise will lie on just how much compromise will be made and how difficult the negotiations are going to be to make that bespoke deal the way that theresa may hopes it will be. Given Angela Merkel has been rather distracted in the last couple of months trying to forge a new Coalition Government in germany to avoid holding another election, in a sense, i suppose president macron is the man everyone is watching in terms of the european leaders, the one who is in a position at the moment to perhaps exercise the most influence on the commission who do the most negotiations and what they are prepared to sign up to . Yesterday, exactly, that is why we are scrutinising his words very carefully. France and president anne macro will be a big player in the eu, and what he says will matter. It will be influential in terms of how other countries see the brexit negotiations going, so of course, apple has been trying to gauge whether france will be on our side, whether they will be favourable to what britain wants in the brexit negotiations. It is pretty clear we have seen britain and france reaffirm their commitment to each other in terms of allies and neighbours, but it is also very clear that president macro is united with the collector position of the other eu countries that britain is not going to get any sort of favourable treatment in the way that some people might have hoped. How do downing street think his trip has gone down . If you look at the areas he was here to discuss, like defence and security, they will take a lot of positives from that, because they say actually, this shows that britain can continue to have bilateral meetings with countries and can establish our own deals, such as how we discuss our border arrangements with calais, and the checks that go on there. It is separate to the entire brexit deal, but the backdrop to all of this is what the situation in britain is going to be like after brexit, and it is still taking from what president macron says, not entirely clear. 0ur bullets will correspond and emma vardy talking to me earlier. The headlines on bbc news many Government Services in america have shut down after politicians in washington failed to pass a spending bill. Essential Services Including National Security and air Traffic Control continue as normal. British tourists injamaica are being advised not to leave their resorts unsupervised. A recent increase in violence on the streets has led to a state of emergency being declared in the area around the montego bay. President macron has told the bbc that the uk might get its own bespoke trade deal. But the french leader warns that britain would have to abide by the rules of the eus Single Market. Young, recovering Cancer Patients in ireland are finding support from an unusual source donkeys. Its part of a scheme being trialled at a sanctuary in belfast, where hands on therapy is helping people come to terms with their experiences. 0ur ireland correspondent chris page has been to see how it works. Hello, wee man. Donkeys and humans have been working together for thousands of years. Now the animals are helping to emotionally carry people here on a particularly challenging journey. Annelise was diagnosed with cancer after she suffered a brain injury when she fell off a jeep during her gap year. She has been taking part in what is known as donkey assisted therapy. Put his head down and lifted it back up then, up towards me. And then i rubbed him again and that made me kind of aware that he was all right. And what were you aware of within yourself . That i wasnt scared. The basic idea is that being around donkeys helps people to talk about difficult experiences because the animals have a calming presence. Leanne has been treated for a brain tumour. She and annelise say the programme has been priceless. Yes, i think people would benefit from this who would not go to normal counselling. Like one on one. And someone who wouldnt open up, the donkeys just help you to start and not realise that youre talking so much about yourjourney. How would you say it has helped in your journey through Cancer Treatment . It helped a lot, actually. Doing this. Because at the start i was like, im definitely not doing it and now people ask what did you think of it and i said, it was amazing. They always ask how to explain it and you cant, you just have to go and try it. To understand it. A lot of different emotions come out. They talked about a donkey being left abandoned on a highway and is there ever a time you have felt alone and stuff like that. And when you think about the treatment, you were alone. So it is all about encouraging emotional openness. Any challenges . Mindfulness, i find a bit challenging. The organisation which came up with the therapy says the donkeys are the perfect creatures to make it happen. Donkeys are very social animals and they enjoy engaging and interacting with people. And theyre also very aware of their environment and everything that is going on within it. So within the sessions they are able to act almost like a mirror to the participant and reflect back to the facilitator and the participant what maybe is going on in terms of how theyre feeling emotionally but very much so the nonverbal communication that theyre giving out within their session. That helps with life skills. The Cancer Charity which has been working with the donkey sanctuary says that the scheme has made a remarkable difference. We know at clic sargent that young people experience a lot of emotions. Cancer can rob young people of their self confidence, their independence. And actually stop career aspirations and goals. So this was just one innovative way that we want to make sure that young people get back on the same track in life that they were before cancer came in. As well as helping with therapy, the donkeys have a pretty playful life. But these friendly, gentle and intelligent animals have a new role. Providing vital support to people who are coming to terms with cancer. Looks like donald trump is up and about early this morning. He last tweeted nine hours ago before that federal shutdown vote. He has now tweeted four minutes ago this is sort of what he said nine hours ago, but here is the new bit. More on that and the rest of the news at the top of the hour. Dateline london is coming up. Firstly, that have a look at the sport. Good morning. Novak djokovic is true to the fourth round of the australian open, but there were concerns over his fitness. He needed a ethical treatment in the second set over what appeared to be a lower back problem or may be like. He won in straight sets but was not at his best, clearly. Djokovic is playing in his first event since wimbledon, after a lay off with an elbow problem. Chung hyeon has become the first south korean man to reach the last 16 in melbourne and he beat the fourth seed Alexander Zverev to get there. After winning in five sets, he could face Novak Djokovic next. It was rather one sided as angelique kerber, knocked out maria sharapova. A straight sets win for the german in just over an hour. It means kerber, the us open champion two years ago, is the only grand slam champion left in the womens draw. There was huge relief, for world number one simona halep, who survived an epic battle with the unseeded american lauren davis to reach the fourth round she saved three match points, before eventually winning 15 13 in the decider. That set alone lasted two hours and 22 minutes they were on court for nearly four hours. Ijust kept i just kept believing ijust kept believing it was not over, even if she was leading a little bit more. I gave everything i had today, and i was proud that i could stay there and win it. It was not easy at all. She plays great. But the mens doubles champions of two years ago are out jamie murray and bruno soares lost in three sets to the indian pair of leander paes and purav raja. But britains dom inglot is through he and new zealands Marcus Daniell beat the french duo benoit paire and hugo nys. One of the greatest formula one drivers of all time, sir stirling moss, has decided to retire from public life. Hes 88 and has been in ill health recently he spent around four months in hospital last year with a chest infection and his son said his recovery had been slow. Sir stirling plans to focus on his family. Chelsea are looking for a striker but few thought theyd be interested in signing the former England International peter crouch, whos 36 and hasnt been a first team regular for stoke this season. The clubs have been in contact, we understand, and chelsea have only scored one goal in their last four games. Theyre away to brighton in todays Early Premier League kick off. Stoke are at home to huddersfield and paul lambert will take his seat in the stoke dug out, for the First Time Since he was appointed last week. With his side in the relegation zone, he says his First Priority is improving their defence. As a team we have to do better. Stop conceding goals. Going forward, i think we are really good going forward. We could be a little bit more aggressive and close people down a little bit quicker. If we get that weve got a chance. Its the fourth round of the scottish cup today. Aberdeen versus st mirren is live on bbc one scotland at 12. 15. Holders celtic are at home to brechin city, who are bottom of the scottish championship. Three games have been called off because of frozen pitches, so do check before you travel today. Its crunch time in the champions cup, with the final weekend of pool games. Exeter, saracens, bath and scarlets are among the sides looking to seal a place in the knock outs today. Its semifinal day at the masters snooker, at londons alexandra palace. Two time championjohn higgins made the line up with a 6 1 victory over ryan day clearing up the final frame with a break of 80. Hell play ronnie 0sullivans conqueror mark allen this afternoon. Thats live on bbc one. 0n bbc two later you can see judd trump against kyren wilson. That starts at seven oclock. Thats all the sport for now. Now for the weather. Hello, once again. Its not unusual to have a real mishmash of weather across the British Isles at this time of year, and we certainly have one through the rest of the day. Across the northern parts, mainly scotland and the north east of england, its still that wintry look to proceedings. Sunshine, yes, sunshine, no further south. Northern ireland, a greater part of england and wales, youre stuck close to a weather front, so a real contrast in fortunes. Still some winteriness about the showers across the north of scotland, elsewhere dry, fine and sunny. Look at the temperatures at lunchtime, one, two, three degrees or so. Similar sort of prospect in the north east of england. Come back towards northern ireland, right through the greater part of england and wales, its on the cold side, leaden skies, dank and drizzly affair. May be a bit of winteriness about proceedings here across the high ground of wales and into the peaks as well. Maybe across towards east anglia as well in the more intense downpours of rain. Much of this light and patchy for the most part. It remains windy across the far south west. Much milder here, as you will see in just a second. And there is a chance of some sunshine here but elsewhere for the greater part of england and wales, it is a three, four, five afternoon and leaden skies, and as i say, drizzly and chill to go with it all. Further north, some sunshine, one, two, three degrees only. Far too late in the day we will get rid of that rain down towards the near content, keeping the supply of showers going across the north. And into that cold reservoir of air we push another frontal system from the atlantic. It stays pretty mild across this south western quarter, but we have a real issue looming for sunday morning. Snow and ice, because as the rain falls into that cold air, im sure you know whats coming next, we are going to convert some of that rain into snowfall. I highlighted scotland and northern england. It isnt just there, but as we get that moisture up and over the peaks and the pennines getting into the high ground of scotland, and then not necessarilyjust on the high ground but to quite low levels in the east we could find two or three centimetres of snow lying for a time through the afternoon until we roll a little bit more in the way of warmth. It is only a a little bit but it is enough to flick that equation back from snow to rain. Then we will begin to see the first signs of the mild air beginning to win out, which it does as we start the new week. But it will be a wet and windy start for a time across the southern counties of both england and wales. Hello and a warm welcome to dateline london, imjane hill. This week, we look at the new relations between france and the uk. We ask whether germanys mrs merkle will get a deal to form a government and remain chancellor. And we discuss why the russians are getting cross with iran. My guests this week mina al 0raibi, the editor of the Abu Dhabi Based the national, the times columnist david aaronovitch, the author, Thomas Kielinger of germanys die welt, and marc roche, former london correspondent of le monde, who now writes for the magazine le point. Welcome to you all. Lets discuss france and britain, first. Emmanuel macron came on his First Official visit to britain this week. Among the agreements reached between the french president and british Prime Minister . Theresa may committed to spending an extra £44 million on Border Security in calais. France said they would lend us the bayeux tapestry in a few years time. With brexit inevitably the backdrop to this meeting, mr macron said the two countries were making a new tapestry together. Marc, is this the new entente cordiale . See what he did there . What