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Working hours doesnt mean we are more productive, especially when it negatively impacts our health and our ability to do ourjob. Well hearfrom Companies Pioneering new approaches to improve peoples Work Life Balance. Hello. Welcome to the programme, were live until 11 00am this morning. Clearly this morning we want to know about your Work Life Balance. Do you, have you, worked crazy hours and done something about that . Is it worth it . If you are a boss, how do you work with your staff . Have you been able to come up with a solution. Use the hashtag victorialive, send me an email victoria bbc. Co. Uk or theres facebook too. Our top story today, more nurses left the nhs in england last year thanjoined. The statistics given exclusively to the bbc reveal that more than 33,000 gave up jobs with the service thats 3000 more than signed up. The Royal College of nursing says more must be done to support younger nurses at the start of their careers. Heres our Health Correspondent, Dominic Hughes. Nursing is a profession under pressure. Now a new analysis of nurses working in the nhs in england shows a worrying number are choosing to leave the profession. Last year, more than 33,000 nurses walked away from their Health Service jobs. Thats a 20 rise compared with four years ago and those leaving outnumber those joining. One in four of those leaving are relatively young, under 30. This has potentially serious implications for a sustainable nursing profession. Unless we can improve the number of nurses there to support the new ones coming in, it becomes a continuous vicious cycle where people will not want to stay because they have not got the support within the workplace. Ministers in england say more nurses are working in the nhs today than 2010 and they have launched a programme to help organisations keep hold of experienced and highly Skilled Staff but retaining nurses is a problem across the uk and the pressures of a tough winter on an already stretched Health Service will not help. Dominic hughes, bbc news. And we can speak now to dominic, whos at Birmingham Childrens hospital. Is this a problem right across the uk . It is. We know from the latest statistics we have from Northern Ireland and scotland, that the number of those leaving is rising, so more number of those leaving is rising, so more than 7 of the nursing workforce left in both Northern Ireland and scotland. But still there, joiners outnumbered those leaving. They are still in positive territory. In wales, a freedom of information request revealed the reverse was true with more people leaving the profession and joining. Asimilar leaving the profession and joining. A similar picture to england. The department of health does say that apart from the claim that there are more nurses working on hospital wards today than in 2010, that is true. But if you look across the piece, mental Health Services and community services, for example, there is an issue there. They have created an extra 5000 nursing places for trainee nurses, an increase of 2596 for trainee nurses, an increase of 25 on last it, but those nurses will take three years to qualify. And the nhs is supporting organisations to try to hang onto these highly qualified and Skilled Staff. But its clearly an issue across the uk. We will hear more from dominik and nurses at Birmingham Childrens hospital in around 15 minutes time. If you are a nurse considering leaving the profession or have recently left, let me know why this morning. To the rest of this mornings news now. Documents seen by the bbc show the services and construction giant, carillion, was left with just £29 million in cash when it collapsed on monday but owed more than £1. 3 billion to its banks. The figures are from a witness statement to the Insolvency Court made by the companys interim chief executive. The statement also details how repeated efforts to save the firm failed. The revelations will worry businesses owed money by carillion, which is one of the biggest Public Sector contractors in the uk. Snow and ice are causing Serious Problems on roads across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england, with drivers stranded in long queues on the m71; motorway. Mountain rescue teams are helping trapped motorists, and people in Dumfries And Galloway are being advised not to drive. Snow has also caused problems in Northern Ireland, forcing schools to close and disrupting public transport. Ian palmer reports. Rescuing the drivers trapped in their cars overnight on the main motorway between england and scotland. Heavy snow meant treacherous conditions for the Emergency Services on the m74. The icy weather kept some motorists in freezing cars for more than eight hours. Very little has been happening, im afraid. Weve barely moved. Im not that far away from motherwell still. In total, very little movement. The m711 runs from gretna green to glasgow. The main problems were from junction 12 to 15 and the wild weather is not going away. The met office has issued a number of warnings for 0n the isle of skye, the main road was closed for several hours in both directions by a jackknifed lorry. Two buses carrying pupils were forced to return to school for the night. We have had people stuck for a good six or eight hours in their vehicles. Quite a long time. We have assisted at least one or two vehicles that had completely run out of fuel and managed to get fuel back to them, but mostly it has been just checking the welfare of people in their cars. Dozens of schools were closed yesterday in scotland are affecting thousands of children. But it wasnt all doom and gloom. In selkirk, the scene was worthy of a seasonal postcard with People Living on Higher Ground witnessing the heaviest snowfall. In dumfries, snowploughs worked around the clock to keep motorists moving. This was the picture in glasgow. And in edinburgh, only the most determined ventured out in our cars. Gritters have been out through the night to avoid a repeat of the problems for drivers on the m71; but Police Scotland say if you can avoid travelling this morning, you should do so. Ian palmer, bbc news. A conservative mp has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012 suggesting that Unemployed People on benefits should have vasectomies if they couldnt afford to have more children. Ben bradley, whos 28, was made conservative vice chairman for youth in theresa mays reshuffle last week. The high court is to hear a legal challenge against the home office, brought on behalf of women who were once involved in prostitution. Theyll argue its unlawful for details of their convictions for soliciting to be stored and disclosed to potential future employers. Police in california have praised the bravery of the 17 Year Old Girl who escaped from the home where she and her 12 siblings were allegedly being held captive by their parents. David and Louise Turpin whose children range in age from 2 to 29 are due to appear in court later this week, charged with torture and child endangerment. 0ur north america correspondent, james cook, reports. In public, they looked like a big, happy family, devoutly christian. Renewing their wedding vows in las vegas, david and Louise Turpin played the part of proud parents. But in private, say police, the family had a dark secret. Before dawn on sunday, 17 Year Old Girl escaped through from the south through a window. She had taken a deactivated mobile phone and used it to call the police. Inside, officers found her 12 brothers and sisters, dirty and malnourished. Three were shackled to their beds with chains and padlocks. The home was dark and foul smelling. And padlocks. The home was dark and foulsmelling. Neighbours and padlocks. The home was dark and foul smelling. Neighbours said the turpins were originally from west virginia. The father was an engineer ona virginia. The father was an engineer on a good salary but had twice declared bankruptcy. Police say the siblings were so small that they we re siblings were so small that they were shocked to discover seven were adults, the eldest 29. They are now being treated in hospital. Adults, the eldest 29. They are now being treated in hospitallj adults, the eldest 29. They are now being treated in hospital. I can tell you they are very friendly. They are very cooperative. And i believe they are hopeful life will get better for believe they are hopeful life will get betterfor them. Believe they are hopeful life will get better for them. As for david and Louise Turpin, they are now under arrest charged with torture and child endangerment. Doctors say they are determined to keep all 13 siblings out of the media spotlight. They are focused on feeding them to try to improve their physical condition, and on offering them psychological help as they try to come to terms with their ordeal inside this home will stopjames cook, bbc news, perris in california. Hundreds of the most vulnerable victims of crime are being prevented from testifying against their attackers, because of a shortage of experts to help them give evidence. Thats according to a report from the victims commissioner, baroness newlove. Shes calling for extra support and funding for registered intermediaries who give a voice in court to people who have problems communicating. One in eight people are working in excess of 48 hours per work, according to analysis given exclusively to this programme by the tuc. The eu working time directive sets a limit of 48 hours work a week, although some jobs require staff to sign an exemption. The tuc says working long hours can have a severe impact on peoples health. And stay with us for a special report on companies which are trying out new approaches to improve the Work Life Balance for their staff. The bayeux tapestry is set to be displayed in britain for the First Time Since it was made in the 11th century. The french president Emmanuel Macron is due to confirm the loan when he meets theresa may at sandhurst tomorrow. Its not clear where or when the artwork will be displayed, and tests will need to be carried out first to ensure it can be moved without damage. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 9. 30. A message from a nurse who doesnt give their name. Im a registered nurse who works in wales. I left after becoming disillusioned and immoral liars. Increasing workloads because of Staff Shortages and underfunding played a big part in my decision. Ifelt the underfunding played a big part in my decision. I felt the environment i worked in was unsafe because of a lack of experienced nurses, and i was unable to continue to give the high standards of care i had previously provided. If you are a nurse considering leaving or has recently left the profession, tell us recently left the profession, tell us why. Do get in touch with us throughout the morning use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. There is also facebook lets get some sport with hugh. An historic moment in english football last night if you are a quizfan, pay football last night if you are a quiz fan, pay attention. Who scored the first goal in english football history to be awarded by var, the new video assistant referee. The answer is Leicester Citys kelechi ihea nacho. Referee. The answer is Leicester Citys kelechi iheanacho. He scored both goals in their 2 0 3 round replay win over league 1 side Fleetwood Town last night. His second goal provided the slice of history. 0riginally ruled out for offside after riyad mahrez had played him in. The video assistant referee thought it was worth checking on. It was the right choice, the decision rightly overturned, and it helped Leicester City moving to the fourth round. Historic moment at the king power stadium. Joined by another premier league side, west ham united, who needed 120 minutes to get past shrewsbury town of league 1. Reece burke scoring his first west ham goal. No real shocks in terms of results cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday and reading from the championship all winners last night as well. The tennis, Australian Open in melbourne. Whats the latest there . Well im sure theres a little bit of disappointment not to see andy murray at the Australian Open but so far british number 2 kyle edmund is making it look like hes the former grand slam winner. Hes reached round 3 for the first time in melbourne barely giving Denis Istomin a chance with in the 6 2 6 2 6 4 victory overnight to back up that win over the number 11 seed in the opening round and a good chance to go even further, hell take on georgias nikoloz basilashvili. He isjoined by the 2009 champion rafa nadal who had a straight sets victory of his own over argentinas leonardo mayer. He reaches round 3 for the 12th time in his career. 0n the womens side of things, former world number one Caroline Wozniacki had an incredible three set win against jana fett of croatia saving 2 match points and came back from 5 1 down in the deciding set to make it into round three. But what about this for a story 15 year old qualifier Marta Kostyuk is the youngest player to reach the third round at a grand slam in more than 20 years. The world number 521 came past 0livia rogowska in straight sets to face her fellow ukranian the fourth seed Elina Svitolina in the last 32. And thats a fitting reward for a fantastic performance so far, we could be looking at a serious star of the future. Thank you, you. We are going to talk about the nhs again today. At a time when the nhs is under extraordinary pressure, with long waiting times and cancelled operations, its perhaps no surprise that thousands of nurses are choosing to leave the profession. Figures for england given to the bbc show the numbers leaving outnumbered newjoiners by 3,000 last year. The government says action is being taken to solve the shortage and points to a big increase in training places. But the Royal College of nursing says many of those leaving are demoralised and that wont change without better pay and conditions. If you are a nurse continuing leaving the profession or have recently left, do let me know your reasons why. In a moment, well speak to our correspondent Dominic Hughes who is at birminghams children hospital. But first, lets hearfrom a nurse who felt she had no choice lets speak to our Health Correspondent Dominic Hughes at Birmingham Childrens hospital. Hi, dominik. Yes, good morning. We are in the Clinical Research facility here at Birmingham Childrens hospital where the aim is to try to produce new drugs and treatments to help sick children. We are looking at the work of the uks meat right across the bbc today and im delighted to say i am joined by one of those nurses, lucy cooper. Thank you forjoining us. You are a Research Advanced nurse practitioner. That is a greatjob title. What does that mean . So, working in the Research Facility have allowed me to advance my nursing skills whilst maintaining patient focus, sol nursing skills whilst maintaining patient focus, so i can undertake advanced skills and still maintain and look after patients. What do you actually do . So, i bridge the gap between the doctors and the nurses, so between the doctors and the nurses, so supporting Research Nurses but also taking on some doctors responsibilities, undertaking cannulation, blood sampling, and other advanced nursing skills. Quite advanced stuff you are doing. What is the ultimate aim here . It is generally to improve their health and wealth of the whole of the nation, and were doing that by seeing patients to notjust nation, and were doing that by seeing patients to not just locally and nationally but internationally as well here in this department. And i think youll roll is quite unique . Yes, to my knowledge, i am the only one doing what i do in the whole of the uk. When you started out in the nhs, did you envisage you would end up nhs, did you envisage you would end up in thisjob . It is quite different to a standard nursing job. Yes, idid, different to a standard nursing job. Yes, i did, actually. When i bested by training, my passion was when i first started my training, my passion was in research and that is where i wanted my career to go. I came here ten years ago when this facility first opened and have allowed me to advance my skills and undertake new training. How important is it then that there are opportunities like the one you seized and some of the other nurses we have heard from this morning who have taken on those roles, how important is it that those roles are there to encourage people to stay in there to encourage people to stay in the profession . It is so important. We are nurses, that is what were here for, we love the patient contact. This role has allowed me to ta ke contact. This role has allowed me to take on my career and pursue a higher level but also stay really focus to being an nurse and that is really important to me. Still see the patients, give the reassuring hand ona the patients, give the reassuring hand on a patients shoulder, a family 5 shoulder, but also develop my skills and give a Strong Research role. 20 years ago, this role may not have been there . You would have had to go into management. Yes, and this is what is great, because i can stay in nursing but advance my career. Do you think that is what will help nurses coming into the profession now to stay focused . Absolutely. There are roles now where you can stay really patient focused. Can you appreciate that some younger nurses try it for a couple of years and then then, this isnt me . Because it a hard job. Couple of years and then then, this isnt me . Because it a hard jobm isnt me . Because it a hard jobm is hard, the shift work, the patient demands. It ever changing, the goalposts are always moving but we like to think we are active do that and that opportunities like this will spur people to stay in the profession and give them a goal to work forward with a lifelong career in nursing. What do you think are the qualities you need to make a go of this career, because it is not easy . Within research, you have your normal core skills that any generic naz has, but above that in research you need meticulous skills are maintaining patient safety, it and leadership skills that we ask of. Lucy, thank you very much for joining us and sharing your wisdom that you have garnered over your career as a nurse. We will be looking at nurses across the uk across bbc news today, so stay tuned for that. Thanks dominic and lucy. Here with us now are two nurses who have both spent twenty years working in the nhs. Joanne szczyglowski who is considering giving up herjob. And we have rohit sagoo, who now teaches student nurses. Hes also the founder of british sikh nurses. You are considering leaving. Are you going to . Yes. Why . I started my training in 1994. At that point, we had project 2004 nurses, we had our bursary, we even had subsidised living so i was living in the nursing home surrounded by nurses and it was amazing. I qualified in 1997 and went on to work in haematology and intensive care. I felt valued and i felt supported. 0ver felt valued and i felt supported. Over the years, as the pressures on the nhs have got greater, that support and that value has changed for me. I have worked in many different areas. I had a time where i actually went into the corporate world, but after awhile i realised that i missed the hands on nursing and thats when i went back into the nhs. But when she missed that now . I think i will but what it is is that i feel that the level of care im giving has been compromised. I work ina giving has been compromised. I work in a busy gps surgery. We literally have ten minutes to see patients and now i feel that im not being true to myself because, ill give you an example, to myself because, ill give you an exa m ple, recently to myself because, ill give you an example, recently i had a lady who came infora example, recently i had a lady who came in for a simple injection but i had read her medical notes and i knew that she was suffering from cancer and it was terminal. I literally had less than ten minutes because of the pressures, so i knew that i had to get this patient in and out of my room. Now, how is that being a health care professional, caring for people . And you had to do that because you had a queue of people presumably also waiting to see you . Yes, so i felt that i wasnt being authentic, i wasnt giving the care that that lady needed and really, probably, she just needed a little bit of a chat, a little bit of time to talk, but thats not something i was able to offer her. Let me bring in rohit. First of all, how do you react that a colleague of yours is leaving after 20 years . Its very sad to see you leaving the profession. As a nurse myself, ithink you leaving the profession. As a nurse myself, i think its great, with a vast amount of nursing, as we have seen, and its a career, a profession that is fast, and its really sad, it will be a loss to nursing, just like many others who leave. And its notjust people like jalan who have left who are leaving the profession, new student nurses are leaving as well. You train them. Why do you think it is . The training is robust, so they are prepared for the realities of the nhs. When they go to theirjobs and they qualify as well, they are relatively doing the jobs that they we re relatively doing the jobs that they were doing and most places, actually their last placements that they have, most wards take them on for a permanentjob within their last training practice areas. So why are they going them . They are challenging times at the moment in the nhs, i think we all know that. It is busy, it is getting busier. The ageing population, a lot more people using the service as much as possible. Janine has emailed. I am a highly experienced nurse practitioner. I havejust left the profession after 38 years, i am co nsta ntly profession after 38 years, i am constantly being asked to return but i feel exhausted. It is sad to say my profession has deteriorated to such an extent that i am ashamed of what it stands for now and the appalling care i am forced to give due to lack of staff. You will know the department of health says that around only 12,000 more nurses are now was around only 12,000 more nurses are now was our wards since may 20 ten. What would you say to that . |j ten. What would you say to that . think it is evident that nurses like myself are having to make the decision and i myself have decided that i am no longer going to put myself through the stress and leave work at the end of the day feeling dissatisfied. So, iam probably one of the lucky ones in the fact that ive come up with a plan. So i actually last year decided to retrain and i picked a Company Called digital mums, who offer women like me, mothers, the opportunity to retrain, so ive retrained in social Media Marketing and this new role is going to offer me the flexibility, its going to offer me the worklife balance that i need now. A subject that we are covering in the next half hour. Rohit12,000 more nurses are now wards since 2010 . That says are now wards since 2010 . That says a lot in terms of it and what we need to think about, i know we have seen figures about nurses leaving the profession, but what we need to think about is retention. How do we retain those 12,000 . How do we do it . Strategically, we need to explore opportunities for enhancing ourtraining, explore opportunities for enhancing our training, just as we hassle with lucy. Dasjust as our training, just as we hassle with lucy. Das just as we saw with lucy. Thats what we need to concentrate on and that is what the government needs to concentrate on as well. Both of you, thank you very much indeed. If you are considering or have recently left the profession, do let me know why. Still to come. As police in california release more details about the 13 siblings imprisoned in their home, well speak to a woman who was held captive as a 13 year old about how she recovered from the horrific experience. Would you be more productive if you worked less . We meet the uk companies who say business is booming since they gave staff more time off. Time for the latest news heres annita. Nhs figures show 3000 more nurses left the Health Service in england last year thanjoined. Left the Health Service in england last year than joined. In each of the past three years more than 10 of the nursing workforce left. The government insists there are more nurses than 2010 and two measures are being taken to retain experienced staff. Documents seen by the bbc show the services and construction giant carillion, was left with just £29 million in cash when it collapsed on monday but owed more than £1. 3 billion to its banks. The figures are from a witness statement to the Insolvency Court the revelations will worry businesses owed money by carillion, which is one of the biggest Public Sector contractors in the uk. Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england. The main motorway between scotland and england the m74 was closed in parts because of snow and some drivers already on the road were stuck overnight. Its since re opened. A conservative mp has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012, suggesting that Unemployed People on benefits should have vasectomies if they couldnt afford to have more children. Ben bradley, whos 28, was made conservative vice chairman for youth in theresa mays reshuffle last week. The home and away actress Jessica Falkholt has died from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago. The 29 year old actress played hope morrison in the australian series. The accident in New South Wales on boxing day had already killed her parents, sister and the other driver. The bayeux tapestry is set to be displayed in britain for the First Time Since it was made in the 11th century. The french president Emmanuel Macron is due to confirm the loan when he meets theresa may at sandhurst tomorrow. Its not clear where or when the artwork will be displayed, and tests will need to be carried out to ensure it can be moved without damage. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. Heres some sport now. There was a piece of footballing history last night as the var system was responsible for awarding a goal for the first time. It came in Leicester Citys 2 0 win over Fleetwood Town in their fa cup third round replay. Reece burke scored his first west ham goal. But they needed extra time to get past league1 but they needed extra time to get past league 1 side shrewsbury town. Reading, cardiff and Sheffield Wednesday are also through to round four. At the Australian Open tennis theres been another good win for british number 2 kyle edmund. He cruised past Denis Istomin in straight sets to reach the third round for the first time. But the win of the day went to 15 year old Marta Kostyuk shes the youngest player to reach the third round at a grand slam in more than 20 years after coming past 0livia rogowska each morning at this time we bring you up to date on the latest in the trial of former football coach Barry Bennell. The court heard yesterday he was treated as a god on visits to Manchester Citys ground, according to one of his alleged victims. 0ur reporterjim reed has been following the trial at Liverpool Crown court. Hes here now. Yes, this is the trial of Barry Bennell, a former youth football coach linked to clubs including Manchester City and crewe alexandra. Hes charged with a total of 48 counts of historic abuse between 1979 and 1991, cahrges which he denies. Charges which he denies. Hes appearing in court by video link because of ill health. Yesterday was day five of the trial. The jury heard from an alleged victim in the case a man now in his 40s who gave evidence anonymously from behind a screen. He said he was spotted by Barry Bennell playing for his school team, then taken to man citys Training Ground and to the clubs then home ground at maine road. He told the jury i thought this is it, ive made my dream, im going to be a footballer, as everybody wants to at that age. And what did the court hear about bennells links with Manchester City itself . Well, the alleged victim did talk about that. He said that bennell was treated as he put it as a god by everyone from security up to senior members of staff at the club. Later, he said he was invited to mr bennells home. And he says he was abused there as well as in mr bennells car and on a trip to north wales. He told the jury i knew it was wrong but i also knew you had to keep barry happy. Because of the abuse, he claimed he started making excuses to miss training and matches around this time and went off the rails as he put it. And what happened under cross examination . Well, he was asked by eleanor laws qc, who is representing mr bennell, whether he had discussed any compensation for the abuse. He said, you keep talking to me about money. Im not here for money, im here for closure and justice. Earlier in the day, the court was read a transcript of a Police Interview given by mr bennell in which he described grooming another alleged victim. He said, i got friendly with him so hed trust me, it was my usual procedure. But when officers told him about the precise allegations made by that person, he described him as an absolute liar who was jumping on the bandwagon. As i said earlier, mr bennell denies 48 counts of abuse. The trial continues this morning. Thank you very much. Analysis given exclusively to this programme by the Workers Union the tuc has found 1 in 8 of us are working in excess of 48 hours a week, something they warn can have a severe impact on our health. Cutting our hours would be good for us, but could it also be good for the companies we work for . 0ur reporter Michael Cowan has been to meet the firms pioneering new approaches to improve the Work Life Balance. Over 32 million of us are employed in britain. One in eight work more than 48 hours a week. But compared to our european neighbours, were not very productive. Workers in germany, for example, can actually stop working on the thursday and yet still produce more than we do. Some Companies Think the answer to greater productivity lies in working less. We managed to work so efficiently that we can be as profitable in four days as we could be in five. I dont ever foresee us moving back to a five day week. Other businesses are about to follow suit, in a bid to achieve balance. I think theres a risk involved for me. I mean, this isnt a job for me. This is everything. Its the perennial question of modern britain how do we achieve a Work Life Balance . Eight hours labour, eight hours recreation and eight hours rest. That was the ethos of industrialist robert 0wen in 1817. And for much of the last two centuries, we havent deviated from his vision. But for many, the Work Life Balance has become a little bit unbalanced. But some companies are drastically changing the way we work. We start in london, at a design Company Called normally. It was founded by marei, tim, chris and mark, who believe a four day week is the key to their compa nys success. Weve observed that lots of people wait for their whole life for that big moment when they retire. But weve seen that in a few cases, that never happens, because you get ill, or you, you know, youre older by then. Youre not as agile. You dont have the energy to really appreciate that time any more. Maybe we can just flip that round. Maybe we can just take that time and move it forward, and give it back to ourselves and our employees. So thats when we decided, were going to go for a four day week. Do you keep to just four days, or do you ever send a few sneaky e mails on the fifth day . Its not seen as a positive. Anything that happens outside of you being physically in the studio is usually frowned upon. And if i see that happen regularly, i know this person is up doing stuff, i get worried. I think, theres something wrong there, and so we should have a conversation. Some of the superheroes of our time, theyre the guys who say, i work 90 hours, 100 hours, 120 hours. So people think. They read those figures and they say, thats whats going to make me successful. Im going to do the same and then im going to be elon musk, or im going to be, you know, im going to have the facebook of the future. But thats not true. Do your employees get paid the same amount as if they were working a five day week . Yes. They get paid above market rate, actually, which were really proud of. And its all because we manage to work so efficiently that we can be as profitable in the four days as we could be in five. This is basil. Hes been at the company for two and a half years. One of the things that everyone, before theyjoin, is concerned about is, are you squeezing five days amount of stress into four days . Like, does everything actually push out . For whatever reason, weve managed to. Like, thatjust doesnt happen here. So occasionally, there is a late one, but i think i can probably count two or three in the two and a half years that ive been here. Do you ever find yourself inadvertently taking the odd call or sending the odd e mail on that fifth day . The funny thing is, theres like a, a social. Pressures not quite the right word, but encouragement to make sure that you use that fifth day for yourself and not to do work. Like, youre not going to get brownie points for replying to e mails on the fifth day. But on a larger scale, are there any economic benefits . Do longer working hours lead to greater productivity . In the uk, we have a bit of a puzzle when it comes to our productivity. Workers in germany, for example, can actually stop working on a thursday and yet still produce more than we do. So therefore, greater and longer working hours doesnt necessarily mean that were more productive. Especially when it negatively impacts our health and our ability to do ourjob. Do initiatives like the four day week, or the six hour day, impact on our economy . Cutting our working hours isnt going to be a simple solution, because its about looking at the employee well being as a whole. So, how are we looking after our employees . Are we also offering lifestyle benefits . Are we harnessing modern technology, to be able to offer greater flexibility, as well as making sure that people still deliver . Because thats whats going to drive corporate profits and, therefore, Economic Growth more broadly. Edinburgh is home to over 3,000 restau ra nts a nd cafes, and one of the citys most popular is about to make a major shift to the way they work. Stuart is the chef behind aizle. He trained under Gordon Ramsay in new york and, this year, his restaurant is going from five days a week to four. So weve decided to close the restaurant one day a week more than we did. So now, were only open for four days, four operational days. And we extended the Opening Times a little bit to try and cover that. You know, selfishly, i want to spend more time at home. You know, i need to have that time with my family now. And i also want it for my staff. Is that selfish . Should we not be prioritising our life over work . We definitely shouldnt see it as selfish, but thats how it feels when youre used to working a certain way, i think. I think if it doesnt work, you know, the Immediate Response would be, ok, potentially, we can go back to opening some days within the higher season points. The festival times, the christmas times. We can go back up to five days then and see if that works. And long term, if it doesnt work, then the restaurant was never sustainable enough anyway. Jade is the restaurants manager. How did you first react when you were told you were going from a five day week to a four day week . 0verjoyed. Its a huge benefit to our actual social life to be able to have some extra time off. I mean, youre the restaurant manager and its essentially losing 20 of the profits from the business because youre taking away 20 of the hours. That must concern you on some level . Totally. Its such a stupid move, so stupid. Its the worst thing that a business could do. We spent a whole year trying to take that same revenue and trying, in some way, to have a better life balance. Like, stuarts sons two and a half, and hes had three services off in four years. Thats crazy. Do you think its going to work . I think it will either crash and burn very quickly or totally work. And i think well know in the first month. But one size doesnt fit all. This is agent marketing, in liverpool. They have a company dog, and bikes to ride to meetings on. And two years ago, they trialled a six hour day. We have that opportunity and the flexibility to be able to try a new initiative. So wed seen about a company in sweden that were trialling it, and various other companies, and we thought, do you know what, why not give it a go . It didnt quite work for your business. For your clients. Why do you think that was . We always said that when we did the trial, the most important thing was, obviously, that client work would not suffer. Wed always meet deadlines. And if we had to sacrifice a six hour working day some days to meet deadlines, we would do that. So how we do it now is, we have two shorter days. So we finish. We do a six hour day on a friday, and then one day in the week based on deadlines and workload a team member can finish at four oclock. So they can do an early. So essentially, were gaining three and a half hours per week. Research has shown that a poor Work Life Balance can severely impact on our health, and one of the main ways this can manifest is on our Mental Health. How big of a problem is a poor Work Life Balance in britain . We know that poor Work Life Balance can lead to poor Mental Health in the workplace. And we know that poor Mental Health in the workplace is costing the uk economy up to £100 billion a year. What does work related stress do to our Mental Health . So what that can look like in an employee is, somebody thats extremely stressed, somebody thats unable to concentrate, somebody who might not be as motivated as they usually are, and somebody who is actually working very long hours, but not actually being very productive. Over a year ago, a Marketing Firm in glasgow thought theyd trial a four day week. The results surprised them because not only did working less maximise productivity, it also boosted profits. Lorraine is one of the executives behind pursuit marketing. They employ over a hundred staff and work a four day week. When did you decide to move to a four day week . We ran a trial of different kind of Flexible Working patterns and in the three months that we ran that programme, the people working the four day week were the most productive, happier in their role and really reporting great things about the time they were getting at home with their family. From the business perspective, what are the benefits . When our staff are in the office, theyre far more productive. Theyre focused on what they need to do. And they want to enjoy that three day weekend every weekend and not be worried about work. So productivity increased initially by about 38 . And over the last year or so, its settled down to about 30 overall. Our business has grown substantially, so we entered 2017 on 2. 2 million turnover. Were about to enter 2018 in a 5 million turnover year and, whats more, internationally, so its been an exciting thing for us. How much do you think that success is due to the Flexible Working initiatives you have . Its a huge factor because the culture in the workplace drives better results, better performance, a happier workforce. So our retention rates are really high and we can attract the best talent to our teams. And our clients can invest in training these people, knowing theyll be here in the long term and theyre not going to disappear. So, we work with the Worlds Largest it companies and they choose us over other agencies because of the culture and how well we treat our staff. Do you pay your staff a full time salary for working four days . Yes. So, oursalaries, basic salaries, are around 25 28 k per annum. 0n target to 45 50 k. When we launched the four day week, we actually increased our basic salaries for some, but their working hours were reduced to four days. Do you envisage a time where you would revert back to a five day week . Definitely not. I think in terms of the exceptional productivity results weve got, how happy our staff are, our staff retention rates, our clients have all bought into it now and theyre trialling it themselves in some areas, so i dont everforesee us moving back to a five day week. All the businesses we met had one thing in common they werent afraid to experiment. And whether they were successful or not, their sheer willingness to try new things is whats going to drive forward innovation, and that will create a better Work Life Balance for workers across the country. Thank you for your messages on this. This you said i am a dairy farmer working 94 hours a week. I have a young son that i hardly see. Another viewers as i work in tech. I was working a 12 hour day. I decided to leave, setup own it Recruitment Company from home and the rest as they say is history. I am more productive, more able to focus on fitness, i am enjoying family life more and not stressed out. Mark says people and their teams need to work smarter but this only happens with decent management. Every company i have worked for has operated chaotically with weak management. Do let me know if you have managed to find some worklife balance . If you area find some worklife balance . If you are a boss, what have you brought in to make sure people arent stressed out and working productively . We are going to get the latest from california now on the parents who we re california now on the parents who were allegedly holding their 13th children captive. Police in california have praised the bravery of the 17 Year Old Girl who escaped from the home where she and her 12 siblings were allegedly being held captive by their parents. The brothers and sisters aged between 2 and 29 are now being cared for while their parents, david and Louise Turpin, are facing charges of torture. Louise turpins aunt has been speaking of her reaction to the allegations. Never been so shocked in my life. It broke my heart. It broke all of our hearts. I just pray that they take care of the kids, and i hope they prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law, even if she is my niece. Because them kids dont deserve it. Is it possible to recover from such an ordeal . Were going to talk now to Alicia Kozakiewicz in new york, who was held captive when she was 13 years old and raped, beaten and tortured for four days. She now runs the alicia project, to raise awareness of Child Sexual Exploitation and abduction; professor peter ayton, a professor of psychology at City University london; and in Northern California is dr rebecca bailey, a therapist who worked with jaycee dugard after her release from 18 years in captivity. Thank you very much for talking to us, particularly given the time where you are in the states. Alicia, asi where you are in the states. Alicia, as i said, you were 13 when you were abducted. Tell our british audience have that experience changed your life. Well, it changes everything. It takes the familiar into the unfamiliar. Theres the horrific event and then theres the aftermath and the healing, which is difficult. Its not impossible, but its difficult and it takes time. Can you give us some insight, alicia, into how you began the process of recovery . Like i said, it does take time and its different for everybody. And time is a big factor, time really does help. But whats really important is to find something that gives you a moment of peace and a moment ofjoy, be it art or photography or writing poems or whatever it may be, and of course, to seek help, to seek therapeutic services. But to do it in your way, in yourtime. Services. But to do it in your way, in your time. There is no timeline in this. Rebecca bailey, as i said, you worked with jaycee do guard, kidnapped at the age of 11 and kept asa kidnapped at the age of 11 and kept as a hostage for 18 years, eventually, in a couples back garden will stop essentially, in a couples back garden. So you will have some insight into this. a couples back garden. So you will have some insight into this. I think its very important that we understand that everybody goes through this in their own time. Immediately, you will have different people with different responses and a great deal of shock. Its extremely important that people understand the shocking nature of coming out of being sequestered into the greater world. We do have some thought, and i have not met these people directly, that if they have been out and about that they have been out and about that they have been out and about, there are pictures in a chapel in las vegas, so pictures in a chapel in las vegas, so they havent been completely cut off, but regardless, they have been living in an extremely intense, horrible situation from everything we hear. The immediate challenge is their physical nutrition and their physical well being from their physical nutrition and their physical well being from everything lam hearing physical well being from everything i am hearing and seeing. Let me bring in peter ayton. Rebecca talked about the images we have seen when the children were in las vegas, as the children were in las vegas, as the parents apparently renewed their wedding vows. Pictures of them at disneyland in red t shirts. All smiling, of course, in contrast to what was going on in reality. So, i dont think we would have seen those images have they not been smiling. There are all sorts of questions that arise and we dont know almost any of the facts here, about the extent to which they were able to behave as they actually felt. To the point where they were rescued, several of them were obviously being coerced, if they are chained up. So you mean those photos were chosen carefully a nd you mean those photos were chosen carefully and specifically to portray an image potentially . Well, i know none of the facts, let me be quite clear about that. I dont think anyone knows much yet about what actually happened but that image is very provocative because it suggested some way that the children we re well suggested some way that the children were well balanced and living in a happy environment and so on. I mean, i wouldnt trust that at all. But the way it informs the story, the way that i think some journalists will react, i am waiting to read the accounts of the stockholder syndrome and how people are complicit with their captors and even in some way encourage and induce their captors to treat them as they do. You know, stockholm syndrome is very much a journalistic mean. It doesnt have any psychiatric definition, i know defence counsel are keen on using it in some cases over the years, but its clear to me that there is a very big question mark over the extent in which these and others mentioned in the same breath were able to express themselves freely. They were living under extreme coercion. Alicia, coming back to you for a moment, how coercion. Alicia, coming back to you fora moment, how do coercion. Alicia, coming back to you for a moment, how do you reflect on what happened to you as a 13 year old now . What happened to you as a 13yearold now . Well, i guess that it certainly changed my life in so many ways and it has been a very long, hard road to recovery and thereafter or good days and there are still bad days there are still good days and there are still bad days. And thats ok. Its ok yea rs bad days. And thats ok. Its ok years and years later to instil experience pain from what you experienced when you are younger. Rebecca, you worked as i said with jayz rebecca, you worked as i said with jay z rebecca, you worked as i said with jay z with jaycee dugard. How would it differ with a large group of siblings . I think early on, getting a read on each individual person. I am going to echo the fact that there are facts we do not know. For example, are we sure they are raw blood siblings . I cant know that for sure and i cant imagine that for sure and i cant imagine that we would be able to say that definitively at this stage. What we do know is that we have a group of closely connected people, very likely that they are genetically connected. They are all going to have different reactions and different needs and so the pace of the work has to go at each individual person. Also, 100 halleluja h individual person. Also, 100 hallelujah about the stockholder. At the stockholm syndrome comments. I have never worked with anyone who has been quite an quake in love with their captors. It it possible to recover from this and live a happy, fulfilled life in the future . As you might imagine, its difficult to do research on all these kinds of cases which have different and idiosyncratic features, but there is research about how people have adapted to being kept in captivity and conditions of extreme cruelty. Notably, a lot of research on survivors of the holocaust and whilst there are, you know, there is no way of denying that there are negative symptoms that people often carry with them for many years after these events, really, the story that i think should be given more attention is the resilience that people show in adapting. So many people show in adapting. So many people actually who often are not picked up in the more journalistic explanations of these things actually live very successful lives. There are, of course, questions about can they develop successful relationships which involve trust and theirone and relationships which involve trust and their one and there is evidence that people can have difficulties with this but its a mixed picture. What ought to be optimised emphasised more, in some ways, is the optimistic fact that given time, as we heard earlier, people are able to make very successful transitions into so called normal, happy and healthy lives. Thank you, thank you all very much. We really appreciate you coming onto the programme and talking to our british audience, alicia, rebecca and peter. Coming up. After 10am, we hearfrom a business trying to improve their staffs life work balance as well as a woman who worked 90 hours a week when she started working for herself. The latest news and sport on the way. Before that, all the weather. We saw a lot of snow last night. We currently have 38 centimetres in places in Dumfries And Galloway. That is going on for 15 inches and not too far away from the m74 where we saw all the problems. You can see sheltered areas have much lower depths of snow. In Northern Ireland, where the hills are not as high, you can see 20 centimetres and ten centimetres, a more even distribution. Although of course i acknowledge that that is twice as much. What we have this morning is some snow around and also some eyes. The snow is still falling but it has lost its intensity and also it is not as widespread as it was earlier. The other thing is the wind will ease down a touch compared to earlier but still we will have snow showers and it still will be windy. South of the snow showers, showers will tend to be rain and somewhere and we may see hale and sleet. In between, we will see some sunshine. Its the same in Northern Ireland. Some showers, some bright spots, some of them wintry especially with height, and for northern england, the showers not as prolific this morning. There will be some around which will still be wintry. Some of us getting away with a dry day, as is their nature with showers. East anglia, the midlands, kent, hampshire into wales and the south west, a lot of dry weather and sunshine, but big waves crashing on shore in the west. Then the next system shore in the west. Then the next syste m co m es shore in the west. Then the next system comes our way, a deep area of low pressure. I have stopped this chart that 8pm this evening to show you what is happening. There is a lot of rain coming our way, some heavy rain, we will see snow in places in the hills of wales and Northern Ireland. As this rain pushes through, i will run the chart to buy they tomorrow, you can see further heavy snow across northern england, also through southern and possibly central scotland. At the same time, heavy rain moves across Northern Ireland, wales and all of england away from where we have the snow. It will be driven on by gale force winds. You will have a period of about three hours of heavy rain. The wind in and will be gusting 40, 50 mph. Around the coast, we are looking at wind strength of up to 70 mph. Again, there is the risk of ice, and this time tomorrow morning, we will still have some of that low pressure affecting eastham parts of the uk with snow and rain. It will clear quickly and by mid morning it will be in germany. With that combination, we are looking at further likely travel disruption. We had severe gales, heavy rain and snow as well. But look how quickly it clears. It pushes off into the north sea, the strongest winds go with it, they hide it we have a mixture of showers and sunshine and once again, it will feel cool. Thank you very much. Hello. Its wednesday, its 10 oclock, im victoria derbyshire. Tens of thousands of nurses are leaving the nhs in england every year, piling pressure on over stretched wards when i graduated, i was so excited, i really wanted to do a job where i could make a difference. And to help people. But ive found that things have got more and more stressful and weve been under more and more pressure. The Royal College of nursing says pay and Training Need to improve. Heidi tells us she is a midwife of four years and actively looking for a newjob. Theres a warning that numerous children and vulnerable witnesses are being denied properjustice in england and wales, because there arent enough specially trained intermediaries to guide them through the process of giving evidence in court. We will bring you the story. Would you be more productive if you worked less . You be more productive if you worked less . Companies who say businesses booming since they gave staff more time off. Workers in germany can stop working on the thursday and yet still produce more than we do. So dapper, greater and longer working hours does not necessarily mean we are more productive, especially when it affects our health and ability to do ourjob. Tell us about your phone, there is the right Work Life Balance that allows you to be more productive. Let me know. And the bayeux tapestry is set to be displayed in britain for the First Time Since it was made in the 11th century. We will talk to a man from the British Museum who is really, really, really excited about this. Heres annita, in the bbc newsroom, with a summary of todays news. Thank you, good morning. Nhs figures show that 3,000 more nurses left the Health Service in england last year thanjoined. In each of the past three years, more than 10 of the nursing workforce left. The government insists there are more nurses than in 2010, and that measures are being taken to retain experienced staff. 0ne nurse told victoria why she was planning planning to give up the career she used to look. planning planning to give up the career she used to look. I feel that the level of care that i am giving has been compromised. I work in a busy gp surgery, we literally have ten minutes to see patients. And now i feel that i am not being treated myself. True to myself. Documents seen by the bbc show the services and construction giant carillion was left with just £29 million in cash when it collapsed on monday, but owed more than £1. 3 billion to its banks. The figures are shown in a Company Statement to the Insolvency Court. The revelations will worry businesses owed money by carillion, one of the biggest Public Sector contractors in the uk. Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england. The main motorway between scotland and england the m74 was closed in parts because of snow, and some drivers already on the road were stuck overnight. Its since re opened. The governments appointed a minister for loneliness, as part of a project championed by the murdered mpjo cox. Tracey crouch, whos Civil Society minister, will take on the role, to find ways of combating the isolation felt by millions of people across the uk. A conservative mp has apologised for a blog post he wrote in 2012, suggesting that Unemployed People on benefits should have vasectomies if they couldnt afford to have more children. Ben bradley, whos 28, was made conservative vice chairman for youth in theresa mays reshuffle last week. The high court is to hear a legal challenge against the home office, for soliciting to be stored and disclosed to potential future employers. The home and away actress Jessica Falkholt has died from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago. The 29 year old actress played hope morrison in the australian series. The accident, in New South Wales on boxing day, had already killed her parents, sister and another driver. The bayeux tapestry is set to be displayed in britain for the First Time Since it was made in the 11th century. The french president , Emmanuel Macron, is due to confirm the loan when he meets theresa may at sandhurst tomorrow. Its not clear where, or when, the artwork will be displayed. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. More at 10 30. Thank you very much. Many comments from you, but yet again, my tablet has frozen. I will sort that and read that out. Really interested to hear from you if you area interested to hear from you if you are a nurse who has recently left the profession or considering it and the profession or considering it and the reasons why, and you Work Life Balance, have you achieved that . If so, how . Judging by your messages, plenty of you working crazy hours. Send me an e mail or message is on facebook or twitter. Sport now. Leicester citys kelechi ihea nacho scored the first goal in english football history to be awarded by var the video assistant referee. He scored both goals in the 2 0 third round replay win over League One Side Fleetwood Town. His second provided the slice of history. 0riginally ruled out for offside. The video assistant referee thought it was worth checking on. And, as you can see, that was the right choice the decision rightly overturned, to help leicester ease into round four. We area we are a lot better from the first leg. We knew that we had to perform a lot better and be a bit more professional on the pitch. We have done that night and got the result. And this man has got the girls and it shows that var does work. They were joined by another premier league side, in the shape of west ham united, but they needed the full 120 minutes to get past shrewsbury, another league 1 side. With reece burke scoring his first west ham goal. Cardiff, Sheffield Wednesday and reading all went through as well. Well, im sure theres a little bit of disappointment not to see andy murray at the Australian Open but, so far, british number 2 kyle edmund is making it look like hes the former grand slam winner. Hes reached round 3. For the first time in melbourne. Barely giving Denis Istomin a chance with in the 6 2 6 2 6 4 victory overnight, to back up that win over he isjoined by the 2009 champion, rafa nadal, who had a straight sets victory of his own over argentinas leonardo mayer. He reaches round 3 for the 12th time in his career. 0n the womens side of things, former world number one Caroline Wozniacki had an incredible three set win against jana fett, of croatia. She saved two match points and came back from 5 1 down in the deciding set to make it into round 3. But this was the winner of the day. 15 year old qualifier Marta Kostyuk is the youngest player to reach the third round at a grand slam in more than 20 years. The world number 521 came past 0livia rogowska in straight sets to face her fellow ukranian the fourth seed, Elina Svitolina in the last 32. Englands rugby Union Head Coach eddiejones has englands rugby Union Head Coach eddie jones has signed englands rugby Union Head Coach eddiejones has signed a contract extension to stay until 2020 on, but not beyond that. He took overjust over two years ago, winning 22 of his 23 tests so far. His original deal would end after next years Rugby World Cup injapan. That is all the sport for now, more later on. Good morning, thank you for watching. When a child, or adult, who finds it hard to communicate appears in court, they can call on people called registered intermediaries to help them give evidence. But there could be up to 250 children and Vulnerable People every year missing out on this service. Lets speak now to our legal eagle, clive coleman. There has been a review, what does it say . This is by the victims commissioner baroness newlove and it is currently a scheme rather than a service and she has found that around 250 children and vulnerable adults who need a registered in the mutually. Dont forget, going to court, the criminaljustice system is bewildering for the best of us, but for the very young and vulnerable, it can be incredibly bewildering and difficult to unlock critical key evidence they may have. What registered intermediaries do, and they are specialists in communication, bassist police in something called the achieving best evidence interview, that is the first interview with the child or vulnerable witness they assist police. Baroness newlove gives the example of a two year old who with the assistance of the registered intermediary could give an achieving the best evidence interview that led to her assailant, her attacker, and this was a Sexual Assault case, pleading guilty and getting ten yea rs. Pleading guilty and getting ten years. It is astonishing, isnt it . It means this effectively is a voice for the voiceless. And it can be incredibly effective and without that, it can be that those witnesses, those victims, never get access to justice. This witnesses, those victims, never get access tojustice. This is witnesses, those victims, never get access to justice. This is the issue she has highlighted. First, 250 a year probably not getting that. It does not mean the cases will not go ahead, but it could be without a registered intermediary. The take up is patchy so five times more likely in cumbria to have a registered intermediary in the case compared with the metropolitan police force, greater manchester, and there are also issues with training, issues with payment. What baroness newlove is calling for is the creation of a national service, to become part of the architecture of the criminal justice system, with a National Lead to lobby government on behalf of registered intermediaries, to ensure that Vulnerable People that need them get them. And there is a time lag of four weeks. This places police and prosecutors in a difficult position because you want the evidence as quickly as possible, to get it as fresh and possible, sergei go on and just do the interviewing yourself or do you wait for the expert, the registered intermediary, to get on board and get a better quality of evidence . It isa get a better quality of evidence . It is a really difficult problem and thatis is a really difficult problem and that is why she is calling for a national service. Quick word from the ministry of justice . National service. Quick word from the ministry ofjustice . They say, we have doubled the scheme. We have increased the scheme. In recent times. And having said that, they will look very carefully at this report and study it. They give very much. Thank you very much. Now we can speak to two registered intermediaries. Esther rumble works with children or adults with learning difficulties, who witness an alleged sex offence. Naomi mason, whose agency works with adult defendants with learning difficulties. And jane, whose son has aspergers syndrome and had a registered intermediary when he gave evidence about a serious assault he suffered. Thank you very much, good morning. Jane, thank you so much forjoining us. Tell us how the intermediary helped your son. Initially, she was introduced to us by the police, she was hand picked specifically. And it took nearly two years for my son to gain the ability to speak to someone properly. She empowered him to have a voice and gave him support. To find a way forward and be believed. And without her, would this have been possible . No, not at all. Not at all, she was his strength and support. And i can feel it feels like you are emotional talking about this, can you tell is why . It was a very long case. We could not have done it without the police and the intermediary. And it gave us closure ina way intermediary. And it gave us closure in a way that we would never have had if we had not had the intermediary. They are invaluable to people like ourselves. Very Much Required and needed, i believe. Thank you for sharing that, jane. Can you give an example of the work you have done, esther, which has led toa you have done, esther, which has led to a vulnerable or a Young Witness being able to give evidence . Absolutely. I am a speech and language therapist by profession. My day to day experience is working with children and adults whose communication is different. And that means i can talk to them in really simple words. And often, i have strategies which are Second Nature to me because of my training. So to change the length of a sentence, to help them sit down in a way that does not feel threatening or demanding. Sol does not feel threatening or demanding. So i am thinking about a little girl i worked with who had been interviewed by the police. She was six. She had not had a registered intermediary with her and the officer really had to their best. But the result was a girl who really did not want to talk and was pretty muchjust curled up on really did not want to talk and was pretty much just curled up on a sofa in the interview suite. When i met her for the first time, it was in school, a comfortable environment, ina it was in school, a comfortable environment, in a room she liked and had chosen. I did a really simple but informed play based assessment of her. I got a feel for where she was at with her language, her interest, what thoughts she could put into words and what things she needed help with. With the Police Officers support and on video, we made little kind of setups of the places that she was going to be talking about so that she had Something Real in front of her and then when she was explaining what had happened, she could talk about where people were in dreams in the house,in where people were in dreams in the house, in beds who were there, and actually it led to a case where she gave evidence about things that had happened to her but also to her siblings, so it really opened a gateway. It is so significant. What about your examples . gateway. It is so significant. What about your examples . I am also a speech and language therapist but in the nhs, iworked speech and language therapist but in the nhs, i worked with adults with learning difficulties and people with the autistic spectrum condition and one women with autistic spectrum to condition that i assessed, i found her understanding of language was very literal. We did a Police Interview and she had already told the police a little bit about what had happened, but during the interview, she was asked by the police officer, did he touch you on top of or underneath your bra . And she said, neither. And i looked at the Police Others as if to say, well, this is a bit odd. And i suddenly realised she had misunderstood that it wasnt on top of or underneath her bra, but by rephrasing inside or outside your bra, she was then able to get clear evidence. Had an intermediary not been there to clear up that misunderstanding, it may have sounded like a very different events had taken place. And it would appear that according to baroness new love, there are some people who would really benefit from your help, your services, but they are just not getting access because of this Postcode Lottery around the country. Would you agree with that . Absolutely. Quite often when i work with somebody they say, well, i wish i had had you last week or the week before. And Police Officers suddenly realise there are lots of cases where they may have been able to get much better evidence had they had an intermediary helping them at the interview stage. 0ne intermediary helping them at the interview stage. One of my concerns is that in the 12 years i have been a registered intermediary, things have changed considerably, in that we used to be involved far more at the police stage and involved in the interview. Now, its very often that we are not involved until. Sorry, the achieving best interests achieving best results interview. Now, we are generally that at trial stage. Maybe it is to do with Police Funding that we are not called upon sooner but that must be cases where the interview is not as good as it could have been and then it doesnt go to trial because the interview is not as good as it could have been. have had a couple of really good practical world like that where the case was not going to proceed and it was my report where i was able to explain what the person was able to deal with their language that made sense of what had happened to them, the case proceeded to court and actually the guy pleaded guilty guilty before we got to court. That was a great result. Thank you both, thank you for talking to our audience about your work, and jane, thank you for talking about your experience and your sons. After 1030, we were victims, not offenders. We speak to a woman who used to be involved in prostitution. She says her previous convictions are stopping herfrom getting a job and her legal case starts today. Next, lets bring you up to date with the story we covered yesterday about protesters outside and Abortion Clinic in west london. The demonstrators are accused of harassing women attending the marie stopes clinic in ealing. Last night, councillors unanimously agreed to begin a consultation on whether to bring in a public Space Protection 0rder known as a pspo to create a safe zone at the clinic. If its granted, it would be the first time its been used in a situation involving an Abortion Clinic. Lets hear a little from our discussion on the programme yesterday, when a nurse and manager from the Ealing Centre described what his clients were experiencing. They tell us what they have experienced, that they have been called murderers, they have had their paths blocked, they have felt judged and shamed and we see it happening not only on the way in but on the way out as well, which is how we know that this is not about providing information and support, its about making people feel ashamed, scared and intimidated about accessing treatment that they have in most cases thought long and ha rd have in most cases thought long and hard about and come to a firm decision. You have cameras outside . It focuses on our property. We cannot fill beyond that because its a public area. The area is a step closer. Ealing council will decide tonight. What effect do you think this could have on the ealing clinic if it were brought in . It would be an incredible day for us to know that our patients were coming into the clinic free from that experience on the way in and on the way out. It would u nfortu nately on the way in and on the way out. It would unfortunately create a bit of a Postcode Lottery where its something that people can enjoy in ealing, but its happening outside clinics across the country. But its an important first step and we would welcome it. Clare, you have been going to the clinic and standing outside for several years, taking pa rt outside for several years, taking part individuals. The last time taking part in the jewels. The last time we spoke to, you denied taking pa rt time we spoke to, you denied taking part in the things we are hearing from the nurse from the clinic. Is he lying . Unfortunately, yes. How do you respond to that . he lying . Unfortunately, yes. How do you respond to that . I think u nfortu nately you respond to that . I think unfortunately there has been a lot of denial about how this affects our clients, we hear it from our patients and from neighbours who phone us and say they can see people outside distressed. 0fficers phone us and say they can see people outside distressed. Officers from the council have heard it from women that they themselves have felt intimidated on the way in. Claire, you wouldnt know the impact on some of the patients because once they are inside, you dont see them, so you have no idea what impact you are having on those people. When you stand outside an Abortion Centre for 20 years, and many other women who come with us are women who have had abortions, women who have been through Abortion Centres, who have been passed People Like Us themselves who didnt maybe agree us at the time but now come have a good idea of how we feel. But do you accept that however you are doing it, but some women and their partners, once you get inside the marie stopes clinic, they are upset, distressed, angry at you, not that there are a decision to have a termination. I think abortion is something that upsets women a lot. It can take a sentenced to answer a question. I accept that some women who are already upset at a horrible decision they feel they are having to take do not like our presence there. I accept that. Obviously we will keep you up to date on that decision. More news from the council, we will bring it to you. Hundreds of thousands of us are working crazy hours. One in eight of us works more than 48 hours every week according to analysis of Government Data for this programme by the tuc. Its bad for us, but it could also be bad for business. Weve spoken to a number of companies who have actually seen productivity rise when they give their staff more time off. 0ur report Michael Cowan has been to meet the Companies Pioneering new approaches to improve Work Life Balance. We brought you his full film earlier. Here is a short extract before we talk about this. Eight hours labour, eight hours recreation and eight hours rest that was the ethos of industrialist robert 0wen in 1817. And for much of the last two centuries, we havent deviated from his vision. But for many, the Work Life Balance has become a little bit unbalanced. But some companies are drastically changing the way we work. We start in london, at a design Company Called normally, who believe a four day week is the key to their companys success. Weve observed that lots of people wait for their whole life for that big moment when they retire. But weve seen that in a few cases, that never happens, because you get ill, or you, you know, youre older by then. Youre not as agile. You dont have the energy to really appreciate that time any more. Maybe we can just flip that round. Maybe we can just take that time and move it forward, and give it back to ourselves and our employees. And so thats when we decided, were going to go for a four day week. But on a larger scale, are there any economic benefits . Do longer working hours lead to greater productivity . In the uk, we have a bit of a puzzle when it comes to our productivity. Workers in germany, for example, can actually stop working on a thursday and yet still produce more than we do. So therefore, greater and longer working hours doesnt necessarily mean that were more productive. Especially when it negatively impacts our health and our ability to do ourjob. Over a year ago, a Marketing Firm in glasgow thought theyd trial a four day week. The results surprised them because not only did working less maximise productivity, it also boosted profits. When did you decide to move to a four day week . We ran a trial of different kind of Flexible Working patterns and in the three months that we ran that programme, the people working the four day week were the most productive. From a business perspective, what are the benefits . So, productivity increased initially by about 38 . And over the last year or so, its settled down to about 30 overall. Our business has grown substantially. We entered 2017 on 2. 2 million turnover. We entered 2018 in a 5 million turnover a year. Do you envisage a time where you would revert back to a five day week . Definitely not. But one size doesnt fit all. This is agent marketing, in liverpool. They have a company dog and bikes to ride to meetings on. And two years ago, they trialled a six hour day. It didnt quite work for your business, it didnt quite work for your clients, which you think that was . Why do you think that was . We always said that when we did the trial, the most important thing was obviously that client work would not suffer. We would always meet deadlines. And if we had to sacrifice a six hour working day some days, to meet deadlines, we would do that. So how we do it now is, we have two shorter days. So we finish, we do a six hour day on a friday and then one day in the week based on deadlines and workload. All the businesses we met had one thing in common they werent afraid to experiment. And whether they were successful or not, their sheer willingness to try new things is whats going to drive forward innovation, and that will create a better Work Life Balance for workers across the country. Lets talk to naomi gilmour, who used to run a Million Pound business that made her ill; Elizabeth Varley who worked 90 hour weeks when she set up her business techhub; and chris shalliker who works for northern gas and power, which is trying to improve its staffs Work Life Balance. In what sort of way, chris . What would you say . Already, i would say that northern gas and power started as two people in a bedroom and one of the nice things that have happened is as new people have joined, they have become friends and we have maintained that feel within the business, even now. So the buses are nice . Yes. When we have events, eve ryo ne are nice . Yes. When we have events, everyone is involved. We have full staff meetings, all our senior managers and directors are on the floor amongst everyone else. Theres not so much a duty of care but a genuine care around people because we all know each other really well. So how long are the hours though . 0ur hours re standard 9 5. If somebody has something to finish, obviously you would expect them to finish it, however, what i would say is that our guys really push themselves very hard, because they get so much back in reward from that as well. And what happens in your 95 as well. And what happens in your 9 5 like willow was affect what happens outside and vice versa. Naomi, this business that you used to run that ended up with a lot of stress for you, how many hours a week and why . Ok, so, i dont know exact hours but i know i was working seven hours a day 20 47, so probably hour days, pretty much seven days a week. It had a massive impact on me and my life and my kind of balance. I had two small children at the time. The business actually ended up closing back in 2009. After that, you started up another company. Why . You hadnt learned your lesson 0bviously youve got to work, but go on, what did you do differently the second time . I set iset upa i set up a business that allowed me to be with my children and also, to do what i love. I help businesses create online presence, i am a web designer and i help people succeed online, something that i am good at. I work predominantly with women in business who have the same challenges of being there for our children, being a mother and also having successful business. Let me read out the messages before i bring in elizabeth. Dave says, when i was with a communication company, i did ten hours a day, but the big bonus was a day of each week and two every fourth week. The team agreed this gave them more quality family time. This says, i used to work in a bakery, 16 hour days six days a week. I was fortunate and i loved the work with a passion. 0ne week. I was fortunate and i loved the work with a passion. One guy was does not always mean you hate it. Declan says, what about those in Service Industries and labour intensive jobs . I sort of thisjobs in your labour intensive jobs . I sort of this jobs in your report. Labour intensive jobs . I sort of thisjobs in your report. Millions that could not afford had a 40 hour wage for a 32 hour week, their point. And karen says, much more needs to be discussed about Work Life Balance but each is, it does not exist. I spent six hours every day planning and assessing on top of teaching six hours every day. When it comes to being self employed, do you think you have to sacrifice the lives side of it, the quality family time . to sacrifice the lives side of it, the quality family time . I think it really depends what you were doing. There is a difference between being self employed as a freelance employer and creating a business you intend to grow. And you can do very longer hours in both. But when you are trying to make something new and put that out to the world, you really have to be very focused on what you are doing. And we work with other Early Stage Technology companies to help them do the same thing. We see it again and again with founders excited about putting something new out to the world. And thatis something new out to the world. And that is one reason why they work so hard. So they are prepared to make sacrifices, certainly in the early stages, that would make sense. And your founders did the same . Yes, of course, if you start a business with just two business people, you work the hours you can. As that goes, maybe you can take your pot off the gas a bit. We do push our guys harder to read a week from nine to five, but you look every month and everybody its targets. Hard every week. Our guys are that good. We have movie and pizza fridays every month. Does anyone go . The entire office so it is not after work. Every quarter, we have a benz everybody goes to which are fantastic. We had wild raves. That is very 90s fantastic. We had wild raves. That is very 905 and we get december off on top of your holidays. So you are working extra hard in the months up to that . Yes, everybody pu5he5 really hard, but there are rewards on top of your salary and the other benefits they get. Quick final word, naomi, your advice to everybody working crazy hours from your own experience . I would say to step away and takea experience . I would say to step away and take a bit of self care as well, especially when it is your business, you cannot look after yourself, you experience burn out and if you do, you cannot serve your customers because the business is you. So it is totally about creating those boundaries for your own life. By the word from you, elizabeth . In the early days, expecting to spend all your time early days, expecting to spend all yourtime and early days, expecting to spend all your time and focusing on something is fine and that is great, but you also need to take holidays and weekends and evenings, which you dont do at the beginning. And really be able to rely on your team. We have an Incredible Team and makes a huge difference to an entrepreneur in terms of doing a lot and being able to take more time. Thank you. Your messages are very welcome, if you have achieved Work Life Balance. Still to come in the programme. Could a simple, cheap and harmless drink during labour reduce the number of emergency caesareans . This is such an interesting story. Experts at the university of liverpool have been looking into it. We will find out more. Nhs figures show that 3,000 more nurses left the Health Service in england last year thanjoined. In each of the past three years, more than 10 of the nursing workforce left. The government insists there are more nurses than in 2010 and that measures are being taken to retain experienced staff. Documents seen by the bbc show the services and construction giant carillion was left with just £29 million in cash when it collapsed on monday, but owed more than £1. 3 billion to its banks. The figures are shown in a Company Statement to the Insolvency Court. The revelations will worry businesses owed money by carillion, one of the biggest Public Sector contractors in the uk. Snow and ice have caused problems on roads across scotland, Northern Ireland and northern england. The main motorway between scotland and england the m74 was closed in parts because of snow, and some drivers already on the road were stuck overnight. Its since re opened. The home and away actress Jessica Falkholt has died from injuries she suffered in a car crash three weeks ago. The 29 year old actress played hope morrison in the australian series. The accident, in New South Wales on boxing day, had already killed her parents, sister and the other driver. The sport now. Hello again. At the Australian Open tennis, theres been another good win for british number two kyle edmund. He cruised past Denis Istomin in straight sets to reach the third round for the first time. But the win of the day went to 15 year old Marta Kostyuk shes the youngest player to reach the third round at a grand slam in more than 20 years, after coming past 0livia rogowska. Its been announced this morning that eddiejones has signed a two Year Contract extension to stay as englands rugby Union Head Coach. His contract was due to end after next years world cup in japan. There was a piece of english footballing history last night, as the var system was responsible for awarding a goal for the first time. It came in Leicester Citys 2 0 win over Fleetwood Town in their fa cup third round replay. That is all the board for now, i will be back with more at 11 oclock. Thanks. Back to the news that carillion owed enormous amounts and did not have much money in the bank, what do the figures tell us . What a dire state carillion was in when it went into insolvency on monday. The only had £29 million, this is a multi billion pound company. That is all the money they had. It was so little that they could not even stump up the fees that you need in order to start going through the insolvency process. That is something the government had to provide. And on the debt site, they owed the banks £1. 3 billion, which they could not service. Adding in other things, other ways in which they were in hock to the banks, it was over £2 billion. And that does not include the deficit in the pension bond . No, thatis the deficit in the pension bond . No, that is not like a bank debt, it is a long term liability they could not meet. Although that was put at nearly £600 million, the Pension Protection Fund which is going to have to take on the pensioners and pay their pensions in the long run, it says it looks more like a £900 million deficit. So huge gaps here. And if you read through the Court Documents that have come out since yesterday evening about this process , yesterday evening about this process, you can see how difficult a job it is going to be to work through this business and sort out what can survive, whatjobs can survive, what work you can carry on. Where there is a customer who still wa nts where there is a customer who still wants work. There are hundreds of contracts. All carillion was, in a sense, was a Big Organisation that signed the contracts to provide services and build things and bombed out those contracts to smaller suppliers. It is those connections that have to be remade now. What is going to happen today . The government said they were giving 48 hours from monday, said that is right now. The carry on supporting where carillions business was entirely in the private sector. It was doing cleaning and Maintenance Work for private sector customers. And the government said it would carry on supporting the Public Sector work, so in schools and hospitals. And so people on tenterhooks to find out what the 48 hours means. Whether work will to stop at the minute. My impression from speaking to the Insolvency Service is that they do not see this asa service is that they do not see this as a deadline as a cliff edge. Those contracts as a deadline as a cliff edge. Those co ntra cts i as a deadline as a cliff edge. Those contracts i mentioned, they are working through them. 0ver contracts i mentioned, they are working through them. Over the next days, we will get more clarity, but today, we will hear again about businesses having to stop work and lay people off, some talking about having to go into insolvency themselves because they cannot carry on without their business with carillion. So goes all. Rees are still coming through. Thank you, simon. Last summer, we first brought you news that women who used to be involved in prostitution were going to try and change the law so that they wouldnt have to disclose their past criminal convictions disclosures they told us which were stopping them getting jobs. They argue as teenagers, they were victims, not offenders. Today, the judicial review begins. Ive speaking to one of those bringing the case today fiona broadfoot, who has 50 convictions, and her lawyer, harriet wistrich. Well, as a child, i was convicted as a common prostitute. I was introduced to prostitution by a pimp. A much older man, who groomed me and trafficked me from the north down to london and coerced me onto the street, into prostitution on the streets. So, as a result of that, i became very entrenched and have a catalogue of criminal offences against me that, 30 years down the line, are still impacting on my life. In what way . Well, its. I feel disgusted and humiliated and degraded having to expose my past, which was actually abusive. And, you know, i dont think its a criminal record. To me, its a catalogue of abuse. Right. Its eight page, double sided, you know . And every time i have to present that to potential employers, or when my son was at school, to the parents and teachers, to the headteacher, it brings back, it triggers a lot of trauma and doesnt help me to move on. And interestingly, i dont believe any of the men who ever bought and sold me as a child have ever been criminalised. Thats where i think we should be focusing our attention. And the point is, when you apply for a job whoever its with, but particularly if its working with children you have to talk about these multiple convictions from three decades ago. Thats right, yeah. What is the reaction when that happens . Its mixed. Some people find me inspirational and are quite supportive. But recently, i had to sit and explain my criminal record for over an hour to two senior people in an area that i was commissioned to do some work, and i literally had to go through my story, my history of abuse. Thats really humiliating. Im nearly 50 years old and i want to be able to live a life free of that abuse. Its ok people suggesting that i move on, but its very difficult when youve got that around your neck, sort of thing. You know . And part of your legal argument. The hearing begins today. Well find out whether therell be a judicial review of this. The legal argument is that you believe this requirement to disclose these kind of convictions is discriminatory against women. Yes, it is. It is actually a fulljudicial review hearing today. Were arguing that it is discriminatory against women because 98 of people who have convictions for soliciting are women, and because over two thirds ofjobs, types of positions that you might apply for, are ones performed by women, so it has a sort of double whammy effect. Were also arguing that its contrary to our human rights obligations in respect of trafficking, because so many women like fiona has described who have these, who were in street prostitution, were subject to coercion or control, or moved around the country, exploited. And thats key because there will be people watching who say, well, why is this past conviction any different from a past conviction for theft or any other crime . And what youre arguing is, you were not an offender, you were a victim. Exactly. Exactly, precisely. And now, weve moved forward a long way. There is a greater understanding about the process of grooming and about the way in which young women are kind of controlled and brought into prostitution. And we dont now see that as criminal activity. We see those women as victims of crime. And those from the past who are still being penalised, effectively, for something that happened so long ago, you know, its a gross human rights violation and its one that we think has to come to an end. And we believe there is wide support for that. So there is a debate about prostitution and whether it should be legalised, criminalised or what should happen, but across the board, there is almost total unity that this is no longer necessary to penalise. You know, there is an understanding that these women are effectively victims. 0k. What do you say, fiona, to a potential employer who might say, actually, i dont want somebody who used to be involved in prostitution working in my school, organisation, working at my charity now . Well, id say that ive managed to be a really good mum. Ive got a really lovely 20 year old son, whos a really decent member of society. Respectful. I actually work in a youth club in the community that i was brought up in. Ive set up an organisation to prevent Sexual Violence and abuse of girls and women. And its an empowerment programme. And i have a fantastic relationship with them young people, and their parents. And theyre all behind this campaign too. So i think people need to be. Before they start judging, i think they need to really inform themselves about the realities of prostitution, what really goes on, and maybe look at some of the men in their organisations and ask, do they buy sex . Do they, you know, support that life . Because the men are hidden. How old were you when you are first arrested . I was 16 and a half. Id been missing from home 18 months. Wow. And you were arrested . I was arrested. I was bailed to my pimps parents address. And, erm. Was the pimp there when you were arrested . Yes. He was stood with me and they used first name terms with him that night, the vice squad. So he was a very well known perpetrator. He wasnt arrested . No. Hes never been arrested. And thats something that a lot of the other women say, that theyre the ones that were constantly being arrested. And the pimps and the perpetrators and those men who were abusing them, you know, who beat them and raped them, were not arrested. So, i mean, its a completely skewed. The system wasnt working then, its not working now. And we need to recognise who are the real victims here . And change the system. This is a very important challenge. It comes on the back of other challenges about criminal records. But this case raises some issues particular to exploitation and street prostitution. Thank you, both. Thank you very much for talking to us. Thank you. Thatjudicial that judicial review will ask for one and a half days. It starts today. We will of course bring you its outcome. Now, this is really interesting. A new Study Suggests that women who are failing to progress when in labour could reduce their chances of an emergency ca esa rea n by their chances of an emergency caesarean by drinking a simple drink. Please tell us more. Ok, good morning, victoria. Yes, so, our Scientific Research carried out at the university of liverpool showed that women who were having failure to progress labours, and these are the ones that then end up with the only way to deliver the baby is to have emergency surgery, the emergency c section, and what we found that was in that group of women, and only that group of women, the blood that was surrounding the uterus, the womb, was significantly more acid than in any of the other groups. Now, we knew from our lab studies that acid is not helpful to contractions and of course, in labour, you need a lot of really good strong contractions to deliver the baby. So, that was the background, victoria, so then, if you like, we hypothesised, well, if it is acid that is causing the problems and failure to progress, then can we not do anything to ove rco m e then can we not do anything to overcome the acid in the uterus . And thats when we, and i should say the wii isa thats when we, and i should say the wii is a couple of clinical collea g u es wii is a couple of clinical colleagues in sweden, came up with the idea of neutralising the acid by giving a bicarbonate drink, so that was the background to it. Which is fascinating and it seems so simple. It worked, did it . It did, yes. Again, i need to stress this is a small trial. Its been randomised and done in a blinded fashion. So, we had 100 women in each group. The control group had the normal treatment, which is the one drug, oxytocin, which may help. The second group were given a second a couple of sachets of the got bicarbonate drink, which is available at street shops, available anywhere, not a drug, popped it in water fizzed up, drank anywhere, not a drug, popped it in waterfizzed up, drank it, then they would proceed after an hour to normal treatment. When we looked at the data, it was really fascinating, really exciting, because even when we rolled out any differences in the size of the babies or the size of the women, we got a significant increase in the number of women who we re increase in the number of women who were able to have a successful but delivery. To put that another way, we really reduced the number of women having to have surgery, and thats whats so exciting. Women having to have surgery, and thats whats so exciting. So what happens next then with what youve discovered so far . I know its a smallish sample, but what do you do next . What we do next is struggled to getfunding, next . What we do next is struggled to get funding, we will get funding, to get funding, we will get funding, to do to get funding, we will get funding, todoa to get funding, we will get funding, to do a multi centre trial, though its not just one to do a multi centre trial, though its notjust one hospital in sweden, but several, hopefully one here in liverpool. Also, to have a centre in a developing nation such as uganda or malawi which are university has links with and the, do these results hold out . Because the excitement for us is this is cheap, you dont need refrigeration to save the sachets for use, you dont have to be skilled in great clinical obstetrics or anything. You canjust open clinical obstetrics or anything. You can just open the sashay, put it in water and ask the lady to drink it. And if this goes large scale and the results are upheld, that this will have a really good impact on reducing maternal death, which is what can happen in sub Saharan Africa if you have failure to progress, but also all the healthy women in this country who didnt wa nt to women in this country who didnt want to have surgery but it was the only way to get their baby out. Wouldnt it be great to not have to have surgery if you dont want it . It sounds amazing. I just want to ask you finally, professor ray, how quick was the reaction once the woman drank the bicarbonate . Right, so in terms of changes in her blood acid, we took a blood sample after one hour and already, there were changes. And then we let the labour ta ke changes. And then we let the labour take its course, so the women who we re take its course, so the women who were entered into the trial, they may have had a cervix that was only four centimetres dilated. You need it ten centimetres to deliver the beadle had and the baby. So that ta kes beadle had and the baby. So that takes time. To deliver the head and the baby. We dont expect labour to be instant. But we may have been talking about six hours, rather than 12, 18. Never. Yes. Good work, professor susan rae. Thank you so much were telling our audience about it. Thank you, victoria. I know, much more work to be done, but fascinating. Wright, thank you for your messages about the worklife balance. I have been quite a few about these. Sophie says, the question is how to buy both companies and how to be confident enough challenge those not offering a better worklife balance. It shouldnt be seen as a business or individual issues to solve, helping mums to regain confidence to go back to work with business is key, i believe, to test and try different options that can be economically viable. This e mail from options that can be economically viable. This e mailfrom simon, up until ms effectively tucked me in my flat, i worked until ms effectively tucked me in my flat, iworked in until ms effectively tucked me in my flat, i worked in a variety ofjobs. I was kept in mind that i worked to live, i didnt live to work. I knew a number of people working excessive hours who were filling the time, rather than doing a job. Another man says he worked insane hours at an agency as well as three hours a day of the meeting, starting my own company a year ago if only to reduce the commute. While britain prepares to leave the eu, one french treasure is apparently preparing to make the reverse journey and its the first time itll be leaving continental shores in nearly a thousand years. The 230ft long artwork tells the story of william the conqueror and the battle of hastings. Joining me in the studio is dr michael lewis. Hes from the department of portable antiquities and treasure at the British Museum. Hello, how are you . Lovely to meet you. How excited are you about this . Its you. How excited are you about this . Its going to be an amazing exhibition. It is busily really generous of the french to allow this object, which is a medieval masterpiece to come to the United Kingdom and be displayed. Where do you think it was created . Well, my view, and scholars differ on this, i believe it was made in canterbury on the orders of a bishop, and its probable that it was made for the consecration of bayeux cathedral. Most people probably remember the bayeux tapestry for the battle of hastings, but that is the end, as he would expect. It has a big build up. It starts in 1064 and it starts with edward the confessor directing harold to go on a mission. Somehow, he gets captured in france and then he gets captured in france and then he gets captured in france and then he gets handed over to william, duke of normandy, and he accompanies william, duke of normandy, on a campaign against rebel breton leader. The ultimate thing, which is significant really, is that he makes a holy oath at the end thatjourney and its by this oath that william then says that hes promising to help me find or get the english crown on the death of edward the co nfessor. Crown on the death of edward the confessor. The rest of the tapestry then deals with that harold becomes king, he is chosen, then there was the battle of hastings where william defeats harold and he is shown being killed. Some people think with an arrow in the eye but hopefully this exhibition will show their summits in this story. How excited do you think british people will be in terms of going to see this . Quite a lot will have seen it when you get on the ferry and you go over there. Yes, you are right. A lot of people who visit Bayeux Museum at the moment are from england or the English Speaking world. 0bviously 1066 is the date that we all know. Everyone who goes to a state school is taught about 1066 and the bayeux tapestry. It will be amazing, i think, a lot of schoolchildren not just do hear about it but to go and see this thing as well. For the wider public, i think people will be amazed about how long it is. It definitely has a real impact when you see this work of art. It looks so new and lively. Thank you. We will look forward to seeing it. Thank you for watching. Bbc newsroom live is coming up next. Back tomorrow at 9am. Hello, snow is still very much a pa rt hello, snow is still very much a part of this forecast but for a large part of the country, if a decent day with spells of sunshine. You will notice frequent showers pushing into Northern Ireland, western parts of scotland and a few in northern england. By the south east, drier and brighter. Here, the highest averages between six and eight celsius, struggling to get about two or three further north. We can see this area of low pressure pushing across tonight, bringing gales in places and heavy rainfora time. Bringing gales in places and heavy rain for a time. As the night wears on, it will bring further snow for Northern Ireland parts of scotland and parts of Northern Ireland northern england, with gusts of 50 mph and higher for exposed northern england, with gusts of 50 mph and higherfor exposed coasts and hills, with the risk of ice as temperatures drop. Then another day of sun is above and showers, but yes, those showers will still be wintry the further north and west you are and it will still feel wintry. Bye bye. This is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11 more than one in ten nurses is leaving the nhs in england each year, and the number quitting the Health Service is higher than the number joining. I want to give my patients my best but i feel like i cant do that at the moment because were just too short staffed, too busy. The government is coming under pressure to clarify the future for employees and Small Businesses affected by the collapse of the services and construction giant carillion. Police urge drivers to avoid some sections of the m74 motorway, after heavy snow forced some drivers to spend the night in their cars in parts of scotland. Also, the bayeux tapestry could be leaving french shores for the first time in 950 years