Transcripts For BBCNEWS Breakfast 20180113

To taking over as scotland manager now that the scottish fa have agreed a deal to compensate his current employers. And making a splash, i have put on a tailfin to find and making a splash, i have put on a tail fin to find out how mermaiding is becoming a growing sport in the uk. Cloudy today, increasingly wet and windy from the west, all the details of the weather today in about 15 minutes. Good morning. First, our main story. The British Dental Association says england provides a second Class Service compared to scotland and wales, and has accused government ministers of adopting a short sighted approach to a growing crisis around tooth decay. 0ur Health Correspondent Dominic Hughes reports. Tooth decay in children is distressing, painful and avoidable. Dentists say sugary snacks and drinks are the biggest cause. British children drink more soft drinks than anywhere else in europe and the number of multiple extractions which have to take place in hospital under a general anaesthetic is continuing to grow. Figures compiled by the local Government Association show there were nearly 43,000 multiple to the extractions among under 18s in england last year. Thats around 170 every day of the working week. 0verall, theres been an increase of i7 in just four years. Dentists say children in england are suffering and are being offered a second rate service when compared to scotland and wales. We have seen in scotland and in wales that they have got National Programmes to try and prevent this and they have actually got reasonably good results the government has not put any money into a National Prevention programme for england and thats the reason why we are seeing so many children being put under general anaesthetic. The department of health in england says the introduction of attacks on sugary drinks is part of its plan to reduce the number of extractions and that more than half of all children have seen a dentist in the last year. And, with proper oral hygiene, good brushing and avoiding high sugar snacks and drinks, thousands of children could be saved from experiencing the pain of a rotten tooth. Dominic hughes, bbc news. The African Union has demanded an apology from donald trump after he a p pa re ntly apology from donald trump after he apparently used shocking language to describe some african nations. 0ur north american correspondent peter bowes reports. An extraordinary week even by Donald Trumps standards. It has been an extraordinary week, even by Donald Trumps standards. It ended with a medical, a routine checkup that all president s undergo and word from mr trumps doctor is that the commander in chief is in excellent health. For the past two days have seen the president of my mired in controversy the past two. As donald trump arrives in florida to spend the weekend at his golf resort, the International Community is still feeding over his alleged use of crude language to describe african countries. As the African Union we were quite appalled and infuriated, outraged, by the comments. And for a country like the united states, which is a valued partnerfor the africans, this is quite a shock. From the United Nations in geneva came the stiffest of rebukes. These are shocking and shameful comments from the president of the united states. Im sorry but theres no other word one can use but racist. You cannot dismiss entire countries and continents. The allegation has gone unanswered by the president. He had an opportunity at this ceremony in celebration of Martin Luther king. But it was awkward. After signing a proclamation in honour of the civil rights leader, mr trump dodged the most uncomfortable of questions. Mr president , are you a racist . The president left without responding. He earlier tweeted that he used tough language in a meeting with senators but not the derogatory language attributed to him. Peter bowes, bbc news. Consumers can no longer be charged extra for paying by credit or debit card under new laws from today. It is hoped the ban will benefit shoppers and holidaymakers who buy goods online or in small stores, but some retailers have already said they will raise overall prices in response to the change. Joe lynam reports. Weve all seen them. The extra little fees added at the very end of the buying process. In percentage terms it may not sound like a lot, but card surcharges add up, until today. Under a new eu directive retailers on or off line can no longer charge customers for paying with a credit or debit card. The treasury says this surcharges cost uk consumers £166 million annually, but some companies, such as concert venues, can still charge a booking or service fee. This is a significant win for consumers. No longer will they be penalised just for paying by credit or debit card. Not all companies will increase prices. We have to wait and see how they react to the law that is being introduced and see whether or not prices go up. If prices do go up consumers can vote with their feet, and shop around and find the best deals for them. Some retailers, such as this Delivery Firm just eat, say they will impose others may simply raise prices. So not all consumers will be better off. A fire that broke out in nottingham station yesterday is now being treated as arson. Leicester city council sent a spreadsheet to 27 businesses bidding to transport people in care, the authority said it took Data Protection seriously and has now launched an investigation. Tributes have been paid to the comedy actress bella emberg, who has died aged 80. She became a household name in the 19805 on the russ abbot show, playing characters including blunderwoman, the sidekick of hapless superhero cooperman. Russ abbot called her a huge comedy talent, while les dennis said she was a funny, lovely friend. And those are the main storage. It is eight minutes past eight. The main stories. Perhaps this morning you are knocked over by flu, will be feel better soon, over by flu, will be feel better soon, you are over by flu, will be feel better soon, you are not alone, theres been a surge in the number of cases in the uk and the number of people seeking treatment has doubled. John maguire has been out and about with agpto maguire has been out and about with a gp to get tips on staying safe. After a slow start flu season is here but how best shouldnt protect ourselves and how should we try to prevent the virus spreading . Peter isa gp, prevent the virus spreading . Peter is a gp, should we even shake hands . And is fine, we are both well, we wa nt and is fine, we are both well, we want the social niceties so no problem. But if youre not feeling well, if you have a High Temperature of the sniffles, then back off, try not to pass things on, and make sure you look after each other. Whatsapp of distance and were talking about without being too anti social . Of distance and were talking about without being too anti social7m of distance and were talking about without being too antisocial . It is being sensible. I hate people invading my space at the best of times so its always good to have space but if youve got a cold or a cough you want to keep a bit more distance. Make sure that you use it is you, put it in the bin, wash our hands, its making sure we dont give opportunities when we are not so give opportunities when we are not so well, to pass things on. Public transport, what are the issues . Some bugs will end up on surfaces. Most viruses are spread by droplets but a little bit will come of services as well. It is washing your hands when you can, being sensible and work, making sure your employer cleans areas so making sure your employer cleans areas so things are kept together. Morty, doctor . Thank you. When you have a High Temperature, push the fluids because he will sweat it out. In the home what should you look out for . One key thing is that at home you can be yourself that in the home eve ryo ne you can be yourself that in the home everyone is in close proximity to each other. So again the coughing and sneezing of each other, if you feel lousy and you are coughing is it best to go to a separate bedroom, sometimes you are more comfortable on the settee, so the more people can be sensible and look after each other the more we can reduce the problem and stop passing it around. With us is doctor barbara murray. Good morning. People forget, how ill you can feel. It completely knocks you can feel. It completely knocks you out. I wasjust saying earlier, u nless you out. I wasjust saying earlier, unless you have had the flu, you cant appreciate how bad you feel. People use the phrase, i thought i was going to die. Some people do but you have that terrible feeling because it is a systemic thing and not just a head because it is a systemic thing and notjust a head cold. Why you feel so notjust a head cold. Why you feel so bad and what are the symptoms, apart from feeling absolutely rotten . Apart from feeling absolutely rotten . People with a cold might have a sore throat and sneeze and that sort of thing and think of it asa that sort of thing and think of it as a head cold. But the flu comes very quickly so you might be ok and then suddenly started to feel, over a period of 2a hours, dreadful, sore throat, headache, High Temperature, shivering, joint pains, even chest pains perhaps a cough, you dont wa nt to pains perhaps a cough, you dont want to lift your head of the pillow, you dont feel like talking to anybody, you just feel as though you want to stay in bed and not move. If youve had the flu, like many people over christmas, does that mean you wont get it again . How does it work. Generally you encounter it, whatever strain it is and your own body produces an immunity to it. You may not get that form of flu again but there are various strains of flu, and it is mutating all the time, which is why it causes a problem with the vaccine. This is the problem. The aussie flu, the japanese strain of flu, and people say, you were supposed to have taken the vaccine, the medical world is supposed to have worked out which strayed we will be hit with but every year, they ever get it wrong or they dont get all of them. They tried to predict what is going to be the most severe form of flu the following year, and base the Vaccine Programme on that. But of course it can mutate over the course of the year and then we are hit with another strain of flu. So we still have the lingering flu. So we still have the lingering flu from the previous year, and perhaps 30 , 40 of adults will be immune to that because theyve had the vaccination. But then of course we still face a new form of flu we have no immunity to. How long does the vaccination last. About one year. So you have to do it again every year. Patients can be stoic and say, ive got the flu, no point in going to the doctor, probably right but some people definitely do need to seek medical advice. Yes, this is a difficult one. We tell people, dont go out, dont go to the doctors because you are spreading it. You know instinctively wa nt to spreading it. You know instinctively want to stay at home, when do you call for help . When do things change from the food is something more serious like pneumonia . You have to use your instinct, and if you are looking after someone you have to know them well so although we say on average you start feeling better after week some people go rapidly downhill, they can develop pneumonia between 24 48 hours. Downhill, they can develop pneumonia between 2448 hours. What is the distinction . How would you know the early signs of someone going from one to another . Objectively as a doctor i would know but is a relative of others and with those symptoms you either have to know your body or what your relative is like, so you would look for things like, so you would look for things like rapid breathing, that is a big sign, not being able to speak in a full sentence, temperature not falling, whatever you do, taking paracetamol, not feeling like you wa nt to paracetamol, not feeling like you want to drink, pulse rate very high, maybe delirious, really not responding, very drowsy. And if someone responding, very drowsy. And if someone is showing all those signs they need to see a doctor and the doctor needs to examine them to see if theyve got those physical signs that we can pick up on. Thank you doctor murray, thank you very much. If you are feeling bad, hope you are feeling better soon. It is horrible when it gets you, but you will get better. The weather might not help. Sarah, can you spin this into something positive . There is a task. If you have the feel its not a bad day to be indoors because its cloudy and for some others they will be rain, this is how the skies are looking above eastbourne this morning, similarfor looking above eastbourne this morning, similar for many looking above eastbourne this morning, similarfor many parts of the country. For some of us rain, particularly western parts, whereas the east it is more likely to stay dry. We can see whether rain is pushing in, quite a slow moving band of rain, central and eastern parts of rain, central and eastern parts of the country dry, they could stay that way through the day, because there is a front moving in from the atlantic, what it is bumping into is this big area of High Pressure dominating the weather, as the front moves then it is stalling, not moving across the uk and a hurry. Some wet weather across the south west of england, Northern Ireland and west of scotland as well. For the rest of the uk, a lot of doubt, a few spots of drizzle, the breeze just helping to break up the breeze just helping to break up the cloud so you might get a glimpse of such an coming through this afternoon. Temperatures between five and 8 degrees, although quite windy in association with the wind in the west. If you are going to the premier League Football matches today most should be dry, cloudy, great conditions, temperatures 5 7d in the afternoon. This evening the rain in the west should become light and patchy and fizzle out for most places overnight. The winds will be lighter, temperatures will drop lower than last night, and mist and fog is likely to form other central and southern parts of england served sunday, you might see a bit of mist and fog first thing, still another cloudy days so great is the colour once more tomorrow. Some brightness breaking through especially to the north of high ground, north wales, northern england, southern scotland, later in the day the wind will pick up later in the day the wind will pick up ahead of this band of rain moving into the north west. Before it gets there, temperatures 4 8d on sunday. Although it looks as if the front will be moving south and east across the country into the first part of next week, allowing the blue colours to return to the map. After a grey drizzly weekend, next weekend will be cold and windy, and settled with a mixture of sunny spells and wintry showers, we could see ice and snow, especially in the north, keep tuned into your latest forecast. Theyve endured blisters, hallucinations and extreme temperatures, but just after one thirty this morning, four british friends became the fastest men ever to cross the Atlantic Ocean in a rowing boat. The four 0arsmen, as theyre known, were one of 28 crews that have been sailing everyday for the past 29 days and 15 hours. Victoria fritz details their journey. Rowing across the nation and into the record books, 18 months ago not one of these men had even picked up an hour, today the four oarsmen hold the world record for the fastest growth is choir across the atlantic. 30 days, for then a lifetime ago, this is the last time pete, george, dicky and stuart saw dry land. They set off from the Canary Islands heading for antigua in the caribbean. Just a short paddle them. With them food rations and a device to turn salt water into Drinking Water and a steely determination to put their minds and bodies through their paces. From now on they would be on their own. For george the memory of his mother kept him going. Asa memory of his mother kept him going. As a counsellor and fisher called on her own experience of depression and addiction to help others. She fought personal battle for many years before her death 2011. At her funeral dicky and i decided we would ta ke funeral dicky and i decided we would take a challenge in her to raise funds for the charity for which she was a trustee. Gale forced winds delayed the start, giving them a taste of what was to come, a0 foot waves, fatigue, blisters, hallucinations and a bucket for a meal. Miles away they had been making friends, a meaty wail and her ca lf making friends, a meaty wail and her calfjoined them at the start of the voyage. Merry Christmas Christmas came and went, much like any other day, eat, sleep, rowe, repeat. M essa g es day, eat, sleep, rowe, repeat. Messages and photos from homes spurred them on. In the middle their friend ben. This was seven years ago, 18, a rising star on the pitch, an accident in a rugby game left him paralysed. For the boys in the boat, this was personal. A numbers game. Not how quickly they could cross an ocean but how much they could raise to help people like ben living with spinal injuries. Exhausted and elated, the four 0arsmen received hiros welcome, for friends writing their names together in the history books. Victoria fritz, bbc news. Well done. World record breakers officially, maybe. The world record breakers, stuart, pete, george and dicky, join us now. Good morning, gentlemen. Good morning in order stuart, pete, george in the White T Shirt and dicky. Good morning to you all. How are you physically after 29 days at sea. Are you physically after 29 days at sea. Its safe to say we are in tatters, i think thats the most accurate way to describe it. But nothing that a good nights sleep and some rest cant cure. George, this was all started because of your mum. In memory of your mum, anne who died in 2011, what prompted you guys to get together this amazing feat . The four of us close mates. Mum sadly passed away in 2011 after a lifetime battle against mental illness, at her funeral dicky and i sat down and decided that one day we would take on a challenge in her memory, to raise awareness of Mental Health problems. Mum was a trustee of the Mental Health charity mind so it seemed a fitting cause to raise awareness for them. It was just a case of what bad challenge would be. So from their pete and stuart had just undertaken a bike ride, john 0groats to lands end, and had to get kicked the endurance bag. They hadnt yet kicked the endurance addiction. So we got together, and the four of us simply said atlantic rowing. It was a little daunting at first but after a bit of bravado, and texts between us, we committed and texts between us, we committed and we are today. That when you started you started you were not thinking he would become world record thinking he would become world record holders . thinking he would become worldrecord holders . I imagine that when you started you did not think you would become world record holders . As you said, a lot of us hadnt even held or 18 months ago so we did a lot of training. We had held an oar. We focused hard over the last 18 months, and it has been a big push. Its charlie, i wondered if you could chosen details from the boat. Congratulations but who is the annoying one on the boat . Laughter probably may who is that . I would say that i make a lot of pointless noise. I think its tough. When you say annoying, the problem is, there are so many niggles and injuries you pick up because you are essentially rowing for 12 hours of the day, for the duration of the trip, so if you get sore, whether it is your knee, ankle, tell, or thumb, get sore, whether it is your knee, ankle, tell, orthumb, then get sore, whether it is your knee, ankle, tell, or thumb, then the pain becomes relentless. So it isjust how you deal with that. And u nfortu nately how you deal with that. And unfortunately george certainly has picked up a field probably more niggles hes picked up a few. Picked up a field probably more niggles hes picked up a fewm that youre polite way of saying that youre polite way of saying that he is the more whiny one . He just came off worst. Especially certain parts of his body parts. Now im curious, i use sitting on cushions as we speak, as a result of your endeavours cushions as we speak, as a result of your endeavours are you sitting on questions . Yes, it is nice and comfy. How did you manage, this is a serious psychological question, you are at least six foot four, all of you, and your boat wasnt much longer than 25 feet. Thats very crowded. We know each other very well but we got to know each other even better. That kind of activity is interesting but we got through it and there were some funny incidents. We needed to accommodate each others floors very quickly. Accept that we were different. Some more so than others. You are still obviously all good friends, you are in antigua at the moment, coming down from this high after this amazing trip. What next . Good question, what next. I think at the moment its, revert to normal. Its been 100 commitment over the last 18 months, and we owe it to friends and family members and our employers, to demonstrate a bit of giving back to them. They have all been so incredibly supportive in helping us to get to where we are now, so its been about getting back to things normally, although theres a lwa ys to things normally, although theres always an edge is a never say never. Thank you very much for your time, congratulations, stuart, pete, george, and dicky, and well done. Now they can get some sleep. And very soft mattresses, i hope. Its 26 minutes past eight and time to look at the papers. Mike barton, chief constable of Durham Constabulary s, joins us, ever been tempted by an extreme challenge . I had goose bumps through that story because my new year s resolution was to get on the rowing machine every day and ive already broken it. I did it for the first three days. But then my thumbs started to hurt. And it was really tough you can make up the time, its early days. This is how i console myself, i willjust work ha rd console myself, i willjust work hard in february. This time yesterday we heard about the Infrastructure Firm carillion, there are concerns and is on the verge of collapse, and what comes out of these businesses is come you start thinking about the Business Contracts that they have. And they have quite a few contracts and public bodies. Thats right. Whats happened in the Building Business which is raw materials, and has probably put them in jeopardy, which is raw materials, and has probably put them injeopardy, but of course they run schools and libraries and hospitals. And that is the worry for me. So for the last 25 yea rs, the worry for me. So for the last 25 years, being involved in a public body, we have been urged and encouraged to try and have deals with private companies. But i think we are now on the cusp where i think public bodies will be able to run their own businesses. I put out to tender how our communications should be managed, control rooms and no one came back with a tender. What we have done since posterity, weve made lots of people redundant, u nfortu nately made lots of people redundant, unfortunately but now we have slimmer organisation, so i think a lot of these firms in the 19805 and the 19 905 we were able to offer public sectors good deals. What happens next . A couple of companies 5aid wed like to have a look about so 5aid wed like to have a look about 5oi 5aid wed like to have a look about so i said all right, you are the figures, come back and tummy if you can do better. And they did come back. I did not expect that because not only did they have to run the busine55, cheaper then you but actually in built within their structure in my view is something that makes them competitive. The trump 5tory. That makes them competitive. The trump story. The Security Forces and the police might have been 5ighing with relief that he isnt coming but thati5 with relief that he isnt coming but that is not what you are going to talk about. It looks as if he is there, this is an amusing placement by Madame Tussauds of his waxwork in front of the embassy. What caught my eye was, i think that we forget that what trumps bu5inesses, it is in property development. And he calls this an off location. I hadnt heard of that before but of course thati5 heard of that before but of course that is a Property Developers take on it. So hes cross that theyve moved out of Central London which is a prime development site, and moved south of the river. But who knows. Thi5 south of the river. But who knows. This might be the new place where property prices rise. It looks like a rather lovely building. Weve been talking a lot about plastic, with the programme blue planet highlighting that amount of plastic in the oceans and people trying to use less although its tricky. In the oceans and people trying to use less although its trickylj in the oceans and people trying to use less although its tricky. I can go back longer than you but if i go back to my childhood, plasticjust wasnt there. This couple went swimming in majorca and it was horrible, in majorca, a sea of plastic debris. So for a year theyve gone at it and theyve only had one bean bag full of plastic. And that is where people have sent gifts, in plastic, and also one of order things online. Bamboo toothbrush i love it but the area they couldnt deal with is actually two areas, one was medicine5 they couldnt deal with is actually two areas, one was medicines and one was two areas, one was medicines and one wa5 co nta ct two areas, one was medicines and one wa5 contact lenses and their containers. So as much as they tried, youve 5till containers. So as much as they tried, youve still got to say that was fantastic, what theyve achieved over the go, and what theyve got is the tins out. It is interesting, i dont know if i can do Product Placement that the only breakfast cereal. There is a breakfast cereal. There is a breakfast cereal that is wrapped in paper and theyve gone for that. And there is one. , thank you, we will see you in an hour. The headlines coming up, 5ee an hour. The headlines coming up, see you in a moment. Hello, this is breakfast with Charlie Stayt and Naga Munchetty. Coming up before nine. Well be talking to vince cable. But first a summary of this mornings main news. Denti5t5 have accused the government of having a short sighted approach to tooth decay in england, after hospital operations to remove childrens rotten teeth increased to nearly a3,000 last year. The number of hospital admissions to extract rotting teeth has increased by a fifth in a year5. Its led dentists to say children in england receive a second Class Service compared to scotland and wales. The department of health and social care say the introduction of a sugar tax will tackle tooth decay. Earlier dentist claire spoke about 5ome earlier dentist claire spoke about some of her patients. The majority of my children would be aged between five and nine, but its not uncommon for me to remove all 20 baby teeth due to decay in a two year old child. Ive also had children perhap5 around the age of 1a where weve had to remove permanent teeth, usually due to fizzy drink consumption, and nece55itating the provision of denture5, so false teeth at 1a. The African Union has demanded an apology from donald trump after comments he made in an oval meeting with members of union congre55. The union expre55ed 5hock with members of union congre55. The union expre55ed shock and outrage and said the Trump Administration misunderstood africans. As the African Union we were quite appalled and infuriated, outraged, by the comments and for a country like the united states, which is a valued partner for the africans, this was quite a shock. Surcharges for using credit or debit cards will be illegal today as a result of new eu rules to help consumers and help transparency and fairness. It will benefit 5hopper5 and holiday makers, making online or in store purcha5e5. Some retailers have already said theyll not raise prices to cover the cost. Yesterdays fire at nottingham train station is being treated as arson. The blaze began yesterday. Ten fire crew5 tackled the flames in the stations roof. It was fully evacuated. It will be re opening today. Carillion has denied report5 its rescue plan was rejected by creditor5. The firm is struggling under £1. 5 billion of debt, including a pension 5hort fall of half a million. The bbc understands government mini5ter5 half a million. The bbc understands government ministers are drawing up plans to take over some of its pri5on contract5. Lets speak to vince cable, the former leader of the liberal democrats. Tell us how you analyse the situation as it stand5 you analyse the situation as it stands now . You have this massive company, the second largest construction company, many people know it by the name of tarmac, they are now called carillion. Its got a3,000 employees, 20,000 in the uk and many, many more thousands who work as subcontractors, so we have got a massive industry, its taken on larger numbers of contracts, its been losing money i think because of bad decisions that were made in the middle east. The government has now got a very big dilemma. It cant allow the whole of the supply chain to collapse, it cant allow the contracts to collapse, it cant allow the co ntra ct5 to to collapse, it cant allow the contracts to be unfulfilled. But at the same time, it cant possibly ju5t bail out the company because then you have a position where the private sector is allowed to privati5e profit5 private sector is allowed to privati5e profits but then the government nationalises the losses, the problem we had with the banks. So they cant just the problem we had with the banks. So they cantjust bail it out, they have to force the shareholders and creditors, the big banks, to take lo55e5 creditors, the big banks, to take losses and then the government can ta ke losses and then the government can take responsibility for taking the contracts forward and making sure they are delivered. Who are you asking to make up the difference then who, are you asking to 5tump up this money . Well, the shareholders are going to have to take a loss. The big banks who hold mo5t are going to have to take a loss. The big banks who hold most of this debt are going to have to write some of it off, perhap5 replacing it with share5. Of it off, perhap5 replacing it with shares. The government is going to be taking on some responsibility in any be taking on some responsibility in a ny eve nt be taking on some responsibility in any event but the key point is that the vast range of contracts, things like running mini5try the vast range of contracts, things like Running Ministry of defence housing, running 5chool5, lots of the5e housing, running 5chool5, lots of these things should probably not have been farmed out to the private sector anyway, but they are going to have to new be delivered and government will have to take a lot of these in house. In other cases, like the hsii contracts, they are going to have to retender and i think probably learn some lessons here by making sure the tender goe5 out to a substantial number of small companie5, rather than all concentrated in one big contractor. So the solution you are putting forward , so the solution you are putting forward, and the phra5eology you are using, you are saying the banks and 5hareholder5 have to. The problem with that theory is that precisely they dont have to, do they, you cant oblige them to do that . they are not willing to agree a settlement, the company will go into administration and theyll potentially lo5e everything and, of course, there is a danger then of the company fragmenting. So actually its in peoples intere5t5 the company fragmenting. So actually its in peoples interests to come to some kind of accommodation. Quite apart from what we do going forward, there are some very important issues for the taxpayer and for parliament to question whats happened because this company has been in trouble for 5ix this company has been in trouble for six months, its shares collapsed in july, there have been profit warnings. The government, particularly the department of transport, and network rail, have been handing out to them very, very big contracts knowing that they were fragile and there is a degree of reckle55ne55 here with public money that we really need to properly have investigated. One other question on a different theme. You are a respected politician and previous liberal democrat leader. We have been reporting on the comments by donald trump, the cancellation of the visit to the uk for the reasons he said. Iju5t wonder, given what you are hearing about the language hes accused of using, where are you on him coming to the uk and, has anything changed . On him coming to the uk and, has anything changed . Well, i gave it from the outset that when he went round endorsing raci5t movements and made the appalling comments about the neo Nazi Organisation in britain that he wasnt welcome here. The fa ct that he wasnt welcome here. The fact hes pulled out i think was a great source of relief because, had he come here, there would have been big demonstrations, a lot of awkwardness with government, so i think hes done everybody a big favour by pulling out of the visit. The state visit . Indeed that, is the whole point. The whole idea that her majesty the queen should be tied up with a ceremonial visit with trump was just so embarra55ing that i think the its fun nat that it would now appear to have been withdrawn and dropped and thats where it should stay. The state visit is 5till should stay. The state visit is still on though isnt it . If thats the case, the governments going to have to make sure it doesnt happen because it would be quite appalling if this man, in view of everything hes 5aid if this man, in view of everything hes said and done, were to come and be treated as a state vi5itor. Hes said and done, were to come and be treated as a state visitor. Thank you very much. Time to talk to mike and dan about the football. Its hoped 0neill can turn things around. Interesting to 5ee turn things around. Interesting to see if he gets the job. Turn things around. Interesting to see if he gets thejob. I turn things around. Interesting to see if he gets the job. I was watching earlier. I was distracted by the whole merman outfit but you we re by the whole merman outfit but you were saying earlier about the fact that they organised a plan to pay off Northern Ireland if hes going to make the move. Yes, facetoface talk5. Ryan giggs for the wales managersjob . Yes and the other interesting 5omeone phil neville being touted for the england womens job as well. Ive spoken to phil and all hes saying at the moment is that hes spoken to the football a55ociation that hes spoken to the Football Association and hes interested in the role but that would be a really big move for him to use all his experience from Manchester United and everton a5 experience from Manchester United and everton as well to take back to the womens game, it would be a really positive move. What is on the power hour today on football . Manchester city play liverpool this weekend and kyle walker is an interesting guy because he came up through the afternoons, played at Sheffield United when he was a teenager, now hes playing under pep guardiola, he talks about how he enjoys that. He also speaks about being a teenager at Sheffield United, saying he nearly quit the game. Have a look. Iwas 15 united, saying he nearly quit the game. Have a look. I was 15 and i just said to my mum, ive had enough. You see all your mates going out and hanging around on the street and going in at stupid oclock in the morning and there was me going in at the morning and there was me going inat9 the morning and there was me going in at 9 oclock because i had a game the next day. My mum just said to me, you cant quit now, youve gone too far. Shes made a good decision for me and im probably forever in her debt. That feeds into beautifully what happened at sheffield last night. Sheffield united and Sheffield Wednesday probably both happy with a point. United back indeed into the top six with their goalless draw. Highlight5 of that in a moment. What time are you on today . Focus is on and we have david moye5 on as well. He talks about how he wants to get west ham playing like tottenham and chelsea and hes talking a5 ham playing like tottenham and chelsea and hes talking as well about being the boss beyond the end of the season when the contract comes to an end. We have that, a piece on newport county, spurs, the boss there, and we have got motty live at chelsea. Load5 to talk about, a few 5pat5 in football at the moment but well tidy it all up for you between 12 and 1. Do you wa nt for you between 12 and 1. Do you want 5ee for you between 12 and 1. Do you want see the pictures from sheffield then . Yes. It was a diploma mattedic game. Wednesday happy with the draw. The new manager, the dutchman, plea5ed enough already with that after the 5ending5 off. Wednesday could have won it. Great 5ave5 by the Sheffield United keeper simon moore. That is enough to take united above leed5 into the top six. Wednesday though still in 15th, so a lot of work for the new manager to do. Are you going to stay for the mermaids . Yes, desperate for that. It was a great night for rugby union. Scott williams sealed the scarlets game, they go into qualification. Bath could 5lip scarlets game, they go into qualification. Bath could slip out of the testimony two if toulon beat benetton tomorrow. England have a chance for revenge in their game tomorrow. Ioane morgan says the player5 tomorrow. Ioane morgan says the players will lift the rest of the england side as they face au5tralia again. Understandably, theyve been i suppose down with defeat of the tests tour, which is disappointing, but i think with the energy that a lot of the guys have brought in, coming from big bash, at home, or playing bangladesh previously, i think its important for the squad and the series and i suppose it always has been, given you play on the back of such a significant test match 5erie5. The guys know the responsibility that they carry, if theyre feeling fresh, to pick guys up along the way. Yohanna konta says she has recovered from the hip injury, that disrupted her preparations for the australian open, which starts on monday in melbourne. The british number one, who is seeded ninth, play5 american Madison Brengle in the first round, and is aiming to reproduce the form that took her to the semi finals two years ago. Im coming into this year with very different challenges. Im feeling con5ciou5 different challenges. Im feeling conscious of really appreciating being back and playing and almost being back and playing and almost being grateful for the challenges that i have now and also working true the challenges i faced at the end of last year and trying to really get back into the match routine of things, trying to get back into playing at the level that i want to be playing consistently. For centuries theyve been the stuff of myth and legend, but now mermaid5 and mermen are bringing their tailfin5 to the uk ahead of the merlympics taking place here for the first time this summer. Ive been to clay5more school in dorset to find out why this new sport is making such waves. In the glow of the winter 5un something associated with warmer climate is causing a splash. From fairy tales and fantasy and disney movies to reality. Mermaid5 and mermen getting fit and even competing in one of the uks new sports, thanks to cheaper and more acce55ible design of tails. Up until now weve had to learn to swim u5ing ourfeet, but our feet are now replaced by these monofin5, our tails. So no Walking Around the pool. Its a very strange feeling. As yet i feel like i have a new part of my body. If you get it right it can make you 33 faster through the water. Its definitely a different feeling. Im looking forward to actually seeing how it works with the fin. Im not sure about the old lycra 5en5ation. It 5ma5he5 through all stereotypes as you learn the faster and more powerful way of swimming through the water. Basically where your hands and your head go your body will follow naturally and then doing the extra kick or flip with your leg will enhance your speed as well, so its a really good full body workout. Michelle was a surfer until she had an accident and then had to find a new role and job in life. Now changing perceptions on a grand scale. Theres always a glamour about a mermaid, but it really is a sport. Its one of the newest sports to come to the uk. The merlympics in germany last year featured racing, agility events, synchronised mer swimming and tail awareness awards. I really felt the power when you find your rhythm in the water and move as one, that tail. I crossed the pool in a couple of flicks it feels like an added weight, but you get more power and you go faster. It really surprised me. Compared to normal swimming its a totally different sensation. Having to keep your legs together as well. Its kind of like the feeling that shouldnt really happen, but because obviously you dont have fins as a human being, it feels amazing. Ive always wanted to be a mermaid and my dream has come true while this had been a first for me in a pool, i have to confess i did pull on a tail while on holiday a few years ago to experience merman swimming in the sea. While it does look spectacular, in britain it needs to be done in a structured and supervised class in one of the growing numbers of clubs in the uk, just to eliminate the risk posed by the tails. If done so it can be a lot of fun, or should i say fin. Do not try that at home because the tails are heavy. Thank you for persuading me to have a little go. You wear it remarkably comfortably. Ive got to say, its a little restrictive. Yes. On land. Im not the great swimmer in the world. I would find this quite difficult but ican would find this quite difficult but i can see just having it on, would find this quite difficult but i can seejust having it on, i can feel my stomach muscles contracting. See how hard it is to lift it on to the desk. See how big it is. It gives you the power. Very good. I watched an hour ago where you said its one of those really weird sensations. Im just going to go. Dont walk. Get back down to earth. Paul lewis who looks like neptune because of the sea. There he is, we can see him. Hes neptune. Hes been watching. Its weird isnt it, like logy watching. Its weird isnt it, like mythology is coming to life on breakfast. We are going to talk to paul in a moment. Sarah, save us, good morning good morning, you cant see my legs, i promise im not wearing a fin underneath here 0ut there is a cloudy picture but there isa there is a cloudy picture but there is a glimpse of brightness. This one taken in kent. Beautiful sun rise. We are going to keep the cloud throughout the course of the weekend. Further east, we are more likely to stay dry throughout the day. Where we have seen the rain already falling over the past few hours, a slow moving band of rain in western parts of the uk. That is down to the fact that we have a big area of High Pressure that is sitting out there across europe and scandinavia. That is keeping weather fronts at bay. A5 scandinavia. That is keeping weather fronts at bay. As it moves in from the atlantic, it bumps into that pressure making slow progress across the country. Here is where we are going to see the wet weather, western england, western wales, Northern Ireland and scotland. Elsewhere, breezy, not as windy as it is further west. Cloudy conditions and the breeze will help break up the cloud a little this afternoon. Perhaps the odd glimpse of brightness to be seen. Temperatures round about five to eight degrees and we could see the odd spot of drizzle around. That is the story for many of our premier League Matches today. Cloudy, mostly dry, cant rule out the odd spot of drizzle. Temperatures five to seven degrees. Into the evening, mostly dry gradually through tonight. Slightly lighter winds than last night. It will be that bit colder tomorrow morning, cold enough for a bit of mist and fog to form. Perhaps a touch of frost in the more rural spots. For most of us, its frost free, another cloudy day through tomorrow, one or two spots of drizzle across southern scotland. Later in the day, well see this front move into the far north west, so wet and windy weather arriving in the far north west. For much of the day, its looking pretty try and we could just see some sunny spells breaking through that cloud. Predominantly a grey picture, four to eight on sunday. Then a change into next week. You can see the blue colours returning, so the mild air gets squeezed away. Things will feel different as we head through the new working week. Colder theme to the weather. Quite unsettled. 0ften windy with heavy showers. Could be some ice and snow, particularly in the north through the course of monday night and tuesday. Keep tuned to the latest forecast, all the warnings are on the website. A0,000 people remortgaged their homes last year. Lets talk to paul lewis in his official role as radio fours money box presenter. Lets talk about that. It sounds like these are large sums of money, a lot of retired people getting involved . Its an average of about £80,000 each and the way it works is this, if you have got a house worth say £250,000 which is probably fairly typical, but youre cash poor, dont have a big income because maybe you have a big income because maybe you have spent some of your savings in retirement, you are living on a pension ex , you can release some of that money from the value of the house by taking out what is in effect a second mortgage, lifetime mortgage and you might borrow a third of the value of the house at the age of 65 and then you will not pay it back until you, and if you have a partner, you and your partner finally dies or goes into care. The interest rolls up each year so it doesnt cost you anything, it all comes out of your estate. My sense is that we wouldnt have to go back too far to read about alarm bells for equity release. Have things changed . People got into dreadful trouble 20 years ago, some were threatened with eviction, all of that has ended, there is a guarantee with any decent responsible company that sells these that the value of the loan as it rolls up will never be more than the house and some of the trickier things like, can you move, what if you cancel it early because you want to move, those kinds of penalties, those are now going, though they havent all gone, i have to say and the rate of interest you were charged, just a very few years ago, 7 or 8 , has now come down to more like 5 , maybe a bit less in some cases, so they are a lot better than they were. But they dont suit everybody and the firms that sell them do say that, you know, half the people who come to them, they suggest they do something else, so you have got to be careful but they can be a valuable way of giving you a bit of capital in your retirement. Often people are concerned about, how do they know whether they are on to a good deal, as opposed to something thatis good deal, as opposed to something that is inappropriate. Whose advice do you seek . Any adviser needs a special qualification. Always pick a firm to go with that is a member of the equity release council. That is the equity release council. That is the kind of trade body, if you like, and listen very carefully to the adviser and the adviser in many cases will say dont do it. You could downsize, for example, buy a cheaper place, release cash that way. You may be able to borrow a more conventional loan and pay it back if you have the income to do that. So there are alternatives, and if you are on benefits like pension credit, that may be a sign that you shouldnt do it. So you have got to be careful but a good adviser will ta ke be careful but a good adviser will take you through all that, ultimately you should trust their advice, whether its to do it, or in many cases, whether or not to do it. Thank you very much. More on your money Box Programme from midday today on radio four. Talking about brutal sport now, bare knuckle boxing is making a come back. Promoters want to bring it back. Promoters want to bring it back by making it licensed, legal and organised. 2500 will watch a fight at the 02 tonight. Here is more. If you look at a guys chest, you can tell how much experience the guy has had, you can tell how he will deal with the situation, you can tell how he deals with the emotion because you can see his heart beat out of his chest. Liam cullen in leeds has spent a lifetime in combat sport but this weekend hes fighting for a world title in one of the most extreme of all. When i say the words bare knuckle boxing, you think of gangsters settling feuds in victorian times but there are a group of people determined to bring the sport back to the mainstream to bring it to the masses. We want to be on television, watch it on a saturday night in every home in the world. I think will get there because people love what we do. This is a new breed of sport which is licensed, legal and organised. We have copied pretty much the Safety Measures on the glove boxing so we have ambulance teams, general nedical ccouncil, doctors, trauma medics, ambulances on site and all the facilities, brain scans. All the stuff the professional boxers would have. We have that as well. Its that risk factor. You want to test yourself and be in a dangerous situation whereby i want to test my skill set. Thats what its all about. The history of bare knuckle is hundreds of years old where champions like Richard Humphries entertained thousands. Today, this sport is relying on its rawness and characters to capture the attention once again. He is confident knowing what hes going to do. Another one of those characters is louis pow. The 28 year old businessmen from bornemouth is making the decision to fight his first bare knuckle doubt. Anything that scares you, you go out and make a decision, a hard decision, this is going to be scary, you could get hurt. Personally i like getting in there and having a scrap and testing myself. I like getting hit, and getting real good excitement out of it. This is a serious business. There are thousands of dollars in prizemoney and it is expected to be watched in pay per view over the globe. Thousands are expected in london to watch a fight. This is getting big. We are putting an event on in the middle ofjanuary. Glove boxing does not put events in the middle ofjanuary and sell huge tickets. 0nly huge of the big glove shows which can sell those kind of numbers. The appetite is there and were not going away, we are going to be here for good. This sport shouldnt be consigned to the history books and at one of the most prestigious venues in the country, its fight continues. Coming up in the next half hour. Something that aint real something that aint real it something that aint real it can never be us. This woman joins a hall of fame that includes adele and sam smith. Sigrid is the winner of sound of 2018 and shell be joining winner of sound of 2018 and shell bejoining usjust before winner of sound of 2018 and shell be joining us just before ten. Headlines in a moment. Hello, this is breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt. Dentists warn of a child tooth decay crisis in england. A record a3,000 operations to remove rotting teeth were carried out last year. Ministers say theyre determined to tackle the problem