Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20180109

No one can stop this. Well get reaction from truckers and migrants. If youre a lorry driver and regularly drive through calais, really keen to hear from you this morning. And a uk wide ban on products like these containing microbeads comes into force today, but campaigners say it does not go far enough, we will find out why. Hi, welcome to the programme, we live until 11 bring you the latest breaking news and developing stories. He may well hold herfirst Cabinet Meeting since the reshuffle that was not that much a reshuffle. Theresa may will hold. We will profile the new work and pensions secretary, esther mcvey, whose appointment has been met with some surprise, if not criticism. Get in touch on the stories we are talking about today. Our top story today journalist toby young has resigned from the board of the office for students after more than 200,000 people signed a petition calling for him to go. In an article in the spectator, he says his appointment had become a distraction from the boards vital work of broadening access to Higher Education. It follows accusations that he had made offensive comments on twitter. In an interview with andrew marr on sunday, theresa may appeared to back mr young, saying he had done exceedingly good work in relation to free schools. Norman is at westminster, why has he resigned now, especially with theresa may backing him . resigned now, especially with theresa may backing him . I think he could see that this was not going to go away. 0nly yesterday, the government was full to make a statement in the commons defending toby young and reallyjust listening to mp5, it wasntjust opposition mps, senior conservatives were deeply unhappy at his appointment because of the sort of signals it sent out, the sort of things he had written. It was argued, hejust could not hold a prominent public post having said those sort of things, and it was argued that if a head teacher or a vice chancellor had made similar remarks about women oi had made similar remarks about women or people with disabilities, then they would have been sacked. I mean, just to be clear, in some of his articles, he had argued in favour of so called progressive eugenics, genetic selection to improve the iq amongst poorer working class people, he had attacked the provision of wheelchair ramps in schools, he had repeatedly commented about womens breasts, and you know, there was a mounting hue and cry over his appointment. What has made it more political and given an edge to it, particularly in the current reshuffle climate is the fact that as you say, mrs may, only on sunday, was standing by toby young, saying that although she had not been told about his comments in the past, she accepted that she was not impressed by them, but by and large, provided he didnt say them again, he could carry on, have a listen to what she said on the andrew marr programme. First of all, toby young has done exceedingly good work in relation to free schools, and thats what led to him being appointed to the office for students. When he was appointed, i was not aware of these comments that he had made. Frankly, im not at all impressed by those comments. He is now in Public Office and, as far as im concerned, if he was to continue to use that sort of language and talk in that sort of way, he would no longer be in Public Office. So for the time being, hes apologised and from your point of view, thats enough, he can carry on . Hes apologised. But, as i say, if he continues to talk and use this sort of language, then he will no longer be in Public Office. Norman, this is what the audience are saying john has said, everybody has cupboards containing skeletons, just a case that someone knows about their existence and decides to use them to their own advantage, whatever happened. Fiona on facebook points out, toby youngs eugenics i was published in 2015, long after he got involved in education, so his apology may mean that he thinks it is not as bad as his shocking misogyny and homophobia. The point being that if he had carried on, you would never have been able to get away from the things he has written in the past. |j suspect he came to that conclusion himself, and although he describes himself, and although he describes himself this morning as a journalistic provocateur, i dont think that in any way was going to satisfy his critics or meet some of the concerns about his appointment. And, ina the concerns about his appointment. And, in a way, the questions now are, why did mrs may cut him that slack at the weekend . Why didnt she ta ke slack at the weekend . Why didnt she take on board the concerns, look at the way the wind was blowing and say, im afraid, in the circumstances, no, he cannot take up the post . As it is, she finds herself under attack for not sacking him, as does the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, him, as does the foreign secretary, boris johnson, because him, as does the foreign secretary, borisjohnson, because when he was challenged about the appointment, he went out of his way to say that he thought he was an ideal candidate for the job, thought he was an ideal candidate for thejob, that the thought he was an ideal candidate for the job, that the criticism of him was ridiculous. So there are significant, it seems to me, political ramifications from his resignation. Thank you very much, norman. We asked toby young for an interview on the programme today, he has texted back saying, sorry, not doing any media on this. Later, an interview with the chair of the Education Select Committee, a conservative mp who has Cerebral Palsy himself, and he tells us that toby youngs comments on people with disabilities are horrible and unacceptable and that what he has written in the past is bad. Lets bring you the rest of the mornings news with ben brown. The education secretary Justine Greening has resigned from the government after refusing a job as work and pensions secretary in theresa mays cabinet reshuffle. Its also understood that jeremy hunt was asked to become businesss secretary, but persuaded the Prime Minister to keep him at the department of health. Theresa may is expected to make more changes to her cabinet later today. Leila nathoo reports. Are you confident of staying in government . After a day of few surprises, it was education secretary Justine Greening who threw the biggest spanner in the works of theresa mays cautious plans, emerging from downing street having quit the government, rather than move to take charge of welfare, as she was asked to do. And it is understood the Health Secretary, jeremy hunt, who was also in line for a move, this time to business, successfully argued to stay where he was. A reshuffle designed to breathe new life into the government did see a few switch jobs, a handful promoted. But there was no movement in the top positions, and the cabinet make up is largely unchanged. Though there was a shake up of staff in charge of running the conservative party, to try to broaden its appeal and revive the tory electoral machine. Now, on day two of the reshuffle, theresa mays focus turns to the junior ministerial roles. Number ten says the Prime Minister will promote young talent from the backbenches. Downing street is promising the new Ministerial Team will be more diverse, with more women and mps from minority backgrounds, so it better reflects the country. The uks equality watchdog has said it will write to the bbc about claims of unlawful pay discrimination made by its former china editor, carrie gracie. The equality and Human Rights Commission says it will then decide if further action is required. Ms gracie resigned after she discovered a gap between her salary and that of her male counterparts. North korea has agreed to send athletes accompanied by senior officials to the Winter Olympics in south korea next month. The two countries have held their first talks for more than two years in the demilitarised zone that divides the peninsula. The south korean delegation has also proposed more contacts between the two countries in what appears to be a significant move to lower tension in the region. A uk wide ban on the manufacturing of cosmetics and Care Products containing microbeads has come into force today, in an attempt to cut down on the amount of plastic in our oceans. The beads that are used in hundreds of face washes and shower gels are often ingested by sea animals and can even end up entering ourfood chain. It will be followed by a wider ban on the sale of products containing microbeads later in the year. One of the worlds oldest silverback male gorillas has died at longleat safari park in wiltshire. The park said staff there were truly saddened at the death of 56 year old nico, who passed away in his sleep on sunday. It said nicos main keeper had been working with him since 1989 and the pair had forged an extraordinarily close bond. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 9 30. We are going to be showing you a film from calais in a moment or two, oui film from calais in a moment or two, our reporter has been there, reporting on the so called jungle campfora number of reporting on the so called jungle camp for a number of years for you. We know it was destroyed in october 2016, but it would appear that there are hundreds and hundreds of migrants back there, and the French Police are trying to disperse them. Da mocles police are trying to disperse them. Damocles tweets to say, dont the french care about people . Dont they have a duty to help these poor souls . We will show you her film have a duty to help these poor souls . We will show you herfilm in just a few minutes. Do get in touch with us throughout the morning, use victorialive. If you are a lorry driver who travels through calais, we want your experiences this morning. Lets get some sport. Sarah is here. How did the video assistant referee at the brighton game go . Not too badly, there was a bit of debate late on, brighton won the game 2 1 against crystal palace, they go through to the fourth round of the fa cup, but lets look at it, the screen on the side of the pitch that the referee can use. It is already in use around europe in italy and germany, but this goal late on from glenn murray, there was some debate, look at this, as it goes in, as to whether it was handball. Now, the referee, andre marriner, decided that there was nothing to look into, he was happy with the system. Some of the palace players were not, you can see them surrounding him, but manager roy hodgson said it was a genuine goal, so hodgson said it was a genuine goal, soiam hodgson said it was a genuine goal, so i am sure the debate will rage on. The last time england lost the ashes down under, there was a big overhaul on and off the pitch. What is going to happen this time . Yes, as the dust settles, we have found out that Trevor Bayliss will step down, but not until the end of the 2019 ashes, when his contract expires, and the news will not be a shock to the england director of cricket, Andrew Strauss. Bayliss told of his plans a year ago but has only just told of his plans a year ago but has onlyjust made it public, and after the 40 onlyjust made it public, and after the 4 0 defeat, he says that has nothing to do with the decision. He also vowed to start the job of building a team able to win down under. Member, the australian came into thejob in under. Member, the australian came into the job in 2015, started well with a home ashes win, but is general test results have been mixed, losing 18, winning 15. His general test results. He also spoke about the difficulties of dealing with the off field issues on the tour and with the off field issues on the tourand said with the off field issues on the tour and said the penny had dropped for the players. Thank you very much, more from sarah throughout the programme. Charities in calais have told this programme around 700 migrants are living rough in the area again trying to make their way over to the uk. Its just over a year since the so called jungle camp was destroyed. But now French Police say theyre clearing tents and blankets daily to stop a camp re forming there. Charities say awful Living Conditions mean people are taking massive risks. They claim a 15 year old boy was killed over the christmas break trying to jump on a truck to reach his brother here in the uk. 0ur reporter catrin nye has just returned from calais. Heres her report. Calais is a darker place than ive ever seen it. This is my fifth time reporting here, and its more hostile. More desperate. Colder, wetter, miserable. I promise you one thing. This. This place will never get finished. This scrap of land used to be home to more than 7000 people. It was thejungle, right . This is what remains of thejungle now, yeah. Not very much. In october 2016, french authorities cleared the camp here, known as thejungle. But people have kept on coming, some back from centres they were dispersed to, finding new places to set up temporary home. So now thejungles gone, dozens of people every night are sleeping between these massive mounds of industrial waste, right in the middle of calais. Charities estimate that up to 700 people are here now, many again pitching tents in the woods for shelter. But the police are constantly pulling these down because they dont want new camps here. So this is where you sleep . This is. Yeah. 0ur roof is. Standing because of these trees. If we didnt have these trees, we could not sleep here. Ikram is 18 and from nangarhar, one of afg hanistans most dangerous regions. Hes only been in calais a week. It must be so cold . It is. And, you know, how does it feel when it is cold and you are wet . Like, your clothes, everything is wet. How long do you think you can live like this . Three months, four months. I hope i dont. I just dont get sick. Because i dont want to leave. The vast majority here are men from four countries afghanistan, like ikram, also sudan, eritrea and ethiopia. The flow of people from africa to europe through smugglers is still strong, and many afghans were already in europe before of the routes were disrupted. Charity workers like annie are trying to use very difficult conditions. So theres nowhere here to settle, even if you are lucky enough to get a tent and sleeping bag and be warm for the night, youre likely to lose it the next morning. So weve just noticed some police over here, taking peoples possessions out of the woods. So were going to speak to them. The men in the white outfits, were they helping you clear . Just so we know what was going on. 0k. Look, you will return . 0k . 0k. Its forbidden for you to stay here. 0k, thank you. How often, annie, do they clear peoples possessions here . There is one clearance every day, normally. Do you sympathise with the police at all . They will have been told to do that. They are saying it is private property. I mean, they are following orders. I guess they are trying to prevent what they call the fixation point in the area. Except a fixation point to you and me might be a camp, and nobody really wants another camper. Thats not what anybodys asking. What do they spray the tents with . Weve had so many reports of the police spraying with tear gas, tents, sleeping bags, blankets. And people themselves. People have been woken up byjust being sprayed in the face. And that is not a legitimate use of tear gas. Its an excessive use of force. This man gets very upset. Added to that there are rumours amongst the migrant population that journalists like us and even Charity Workers are colluding with the french government and the police. So we turn the camera off. The guys keep asking for permission to go back into the woods and see if they can take their stuff, but the police wont let them. With each new camp we visited, another police clearance. Are you clearing the tents . As it pours with rain, a police truck leaves with the latest haul of tents and sleeping bags. The stuff being confiscated has been donated by charities set up locally, a huge number of volunteers are british. Good morning, everyone, and welcome. Thank you, everyone, for being here so bright and early. In march last year, local authorities barred humanitarian groups from giving out aid to migrants. Its going to be raining outside, its really wet outside. A local court struck down that order within weeks, and volunteers are still coming to calais, just in smaller numbers. Ive been here almost two and a half years now, and the conditions that we have at the moment are the worst that weve ever had in this place. And that is because people are constantly being moved on. They are still very much on the edge all the time. Does it make yourjob harder when people dont trust you . Erm. It does, but its normal. Its just the way it is . Yeah. I mean, were not necessarily here to make friends with everybody. Were just trying to keep people alive. What were seeing is that the conditions in which people are forced to live right now are pushing people to take such extreme risks, risks that they wouldnt otherwise take. So unfortunately last month two refugees died at the border. One of them was a 15 year old boy. And one person is still in Critical Condition after being severely injured. Whats the solution to all of this . You cant want to see thejungle reform here . What we really want is just basic provisions allowing people to survive, and then for their cases to be fairly assessed while they are here. So there are many, many people who have a legal right to be in the uk, but it takes so long to access those legal routes that people just give up. The fact that the french asylum system is so overcrowded and itjust cannot cope. When youre speaking to people here, if you hear a case that is quite clearly not going to get someone asylum in the uk or in france, do you tell them . What we really want is for people to get assessed by the appropriate authorities, and then they had to decide. Its not up to us. Ikram used to live in norway, where he was given temporary asylum. But after a year he was told he would be sent back to afghanistan to live in the capital, kabul, where it wasjudged safe, rather than the region hes from. I dont want to go back, and i will never. I dont want to go. I can live anywhere in europe. It can be ajungle, it can be a place like this. But im not going back. And that no one can decide without me. As soon as you are without parents in afghanistan, you are deciding to go in army or taliban. That is your choice. So do you want me to go to taliban, or. . Thats why i dont want to go back. Do you worry about that, though . Do you worry that if you end up in england they might say the same as norway, you could go and live in kabul . Believe me, if they did this, if they said the same thing like norway said to me, believe me, i will kill myself there. Because. 0k, where should i go . I should go back to any other country and just begging for asylum, begging for everything . Come on. Iam tired. I want to stop somewhere. I want to just. Just seriously, 0k, what is the problem if i start to go to my school, start my education, do the right things. What is the problem . And whats it like trying to jump on the trucks . I havent tried. You havent tried . So youre waiting to try . Im waiting for try. We could have a truck with migrants on board. Has the driver asked for the security check, because he thinks hes got them on board . On this truck out here. This is just the truck, just over there. Stuart madden is chief operating officer at this massive truck stop in calais. They now have a Security Team constantly checking lorries for people inside. This is footage ofjust before christmas where a trucks come on. Someone coming out of the roof. Lastjune at a driver was killed in calais when a van crashed into lorries that had been forced to stop by a makeshift barrier set by migrants trying to boards trucks. Weve had drivers arrive on site who have been physically harassed, that have had their windscreens smashed and, of course, there is damage to vehicles. But stuarts also seen cases where lorry drivers are willingly smuggling people. Do you know how much someone can get paid for it, for taking someone over in a truck . A lot of the drivers are from Eastern Europe and can be paid only 500, 600 euros a month. Even if its 1000 or 2000 euros, thats a significant increase in disposable income. And how is it for you, seeing this every day . We try our best here to deal with a difficult situation in order to ensure that trucks, their drivers, the cargo are kept safe. What we need is to reflect upon is where these migrants have come from. Eritrea, where if youre 16, youre conscripted automatically into the army for an indefinite period. So if you are a young eritrean and you have the option of trying to make a better life for yourself in europe, then youre probably going to try. And so it continues. All day and all night here, people still try their chances, trying to get a ride to the uk. It must be a dilemma for you that you are enabling calais to exist and it grew because of charity presence, and now its growing again . Its an ongoing conversation, but at the same time when not enabling people to come here. They would be here anyway. Were just giving them the very basic tools to survive. They got rid of this camp, you know, more than a year ago, but people are here again. Has anyone been put off by the fact that theres not a proper camp here . I promise you one thing, this. This place will never get finished. It will be people here, every time. No one can stop this. We will talk to a young man who came to britain illegally underneath a lorry. We will talk to him later on in the programme. We will talk to the Road Haulage Association and a driver who is in charge of various other lorries as well. I want to hear from you if you are a trucker and you travel regularly through calais, let us know what it is like at the moment. Gezza says, real refugees would be grate fofl the first safe haven, not travelling across countries in a freezing tent waiting to get on a lord to britain. , the world needs more compassion. Jay says we are overwhelmed with immigrants and we have to look after our own. Kate says, the migrants wanting to come to britain are the problem of france. All have been allowed to ignore International Law and no matter how sorry you feel for them, we have no room for them and we do not want them. With regards to the claims you heard in the film, the leadical authority told us Police Forces act in calais in accordance with the rule of law, with the sole objective of enforcing public order and security. Coercion is used only when necessary, and the forces strictly obey the principle of the proportionality when responding to a risk. Gay couples in australia have tied the knot on the First Official day of ceremonies following the passing of a law to legalise same sex marriage. Last year, the Australian Parliament overwhelming voted for same sex marriage after a contentious referendum showed 62 of respondents wanted marriage equality. Lets talk to two couple whove just got married. They got married at midnight last night australian time. Congratulations. Thank you. Tell us about the ceremony. Problem with sound we had to stay up late. It is a really dodgy skype line or face time, but well persist because thats what we do on this programme. Who did you invite . We invited about 40 who did you invite . We invited about a0 of our friends and family. But it was an open invitation as well. Who turned up . From the open invitation, who turned up . The venue was at capacity. Capacity at several points throughout the night. It was about close to 100 people. And how was it . It was so good. It was really good. It was so good. It was really good. It was so good. It was really good. It was a nice feeling. This line is too bad, you know, we cant hear you enough, but im so frustrated. Im so enough, but im so frustrated. Im so frustrated. Tell us finally when you heard the result of the National Vote read out on tv back in november, how did you both react . We cried. Congratulations. Have a wonderful life together. Thank you both very much. Sorry about the technicals there. You know us, we like to plough on. Seine still to come, tiny pieces of plastic known as mircobeads are banned from cosmetics and toiletries from today. Well ask if the move goes far enough to tackle plastic pollution. Time for the latest news, heres ben. Thanks, victoria, the bbc News Headlines journalist toby young has resigned from the board of the office for students after more than 200,000 people signed a petition calling for him to go. In an article in the spectator, he says his appointment had become a distraction from the boards vital work of broadening access to Higher Education. It follows accusations that he had made offensive comments on twitter. The newly appointed chairman of the conservative party, brandon lewis, is insisting theresa may is fully in control of her cabinet, despite yesterdays reshuffle not going according to plan. Education secretary Justine Greening resigned after refusing an offer to become work and pensions secretary, and jeremy hunt turned down a move to business to remain as Health Secretary, with added responsibilities. The reshuffle will continue today, with more ministerial roles expected to go to women, younger mps and those from ethnic minorities. Well, i think if you look at what the Prime Minister outlined yesterday in terms of how the departments are working, theres some really good new people coming in, weve got, you know, more women around the cabinet table now than weve ever had before, weve got actually a very clear focus. The uks equality watchdog has said it will write to the bbc about claims of unlawful pay discrimination made by its former china editor, carrie gracie. The equality and Human Rights Commission says it will then decide if further action is required. Ms gracie resigned after she discovered a gap between her salary and that of her male counterparts. North korea has agreed to send athletes accompanied by senior officials to the Winter Olympics in south korea next month. The two countries have held their first talks for more than two years in the demilitarised zone that divides the peninsula. The south korean delegation has also proposed more contacts between the two countries in what appears to be a significant move to lower tension in the region. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. Some messages aboutjournalist toby young, who has resigned this morning from the universities watchdog. Funny how this useless right wing misogynist is regularly applied by the bbc to give his views on things. From paul, how are we supposed to make up our minds about him when you do not tell us what he said . You, the bbc have decided that what he said was not acceptable. We have to accept the word of the Progressive Left in the bbc that he has said something wrong. We have pre recorded an interview with the chair of the Education Select Committee when we go through some of his comments, with particular relation to some of his comments about people with disabilities. While watching comic relief in 2009, he wrote, what happened to your winklemans breasts . Put on some weight while watching pmqs in 2011, he wrote, that is quite a cleavage behind ed miliband. In 2012, during pmqs, serious cleavage behind ed miliband, anybody know who it belongs to . And then in 2013 he responded to criticism of previous comments by saying that women who display a lot of cleavage should not complain when men notice them. In 200a he wrote an article about pretending to be a lesbian for the night and embarking on a whistle stop tour of new yorks hottest lesbia n clu bs whistle stop tour of new yorks hottest lesbian clubs with the aim of drawing them into his confidence to make out with them on the dance floor. And so on. Sport now with sarah. Brighton are through to the fourth round of the fa cup after their 2 1win against crystal palace. It was the first time var was used in a competitive match, and there was a little debate over Glenn Murrays winner three minutes from time. But the referee was happy with it. So brighton through to meet middlesbrough in the fourth round. Also meeting in the next round League Two Yeovil town, the lowest ranked side left in the fa cup, will host manchester united. Tottenham also travel to League Two Side newport county. The full draw is on the website. England cricket coach Trevor Bayliss is going to step down, but not until the end of next years ashes, when his contract expires. Hes also vowed to start the job of building a team able to win down under. And north korea is to send a delegation to the Winter Olympics which will take place in south korea next month. The delegation will include athletes, officials and supporters. A uk wide ban on the manufacture of cosmetics and Care Products like these, containing tiny pieces of plastic known as microbeads has come into force. The ban is aimed at protecting the Marine Environment from one source of plastic pollution as microbeads can have potentially harmful effects when swallowed by fish and crustaceans. The ban affects products that rinse off like face wash, toothpaste, shower gel and it was announced back in 2016. Youll still be able to buy them in shops, though, till a ban on the sale comes into force later in the year. Many companies have been working to remove microbeads from their products already. But campaigners say they want the ban to go further. They want it to be extended to other so called leave on products, which you put on and dont wash off immediately, like body lotions, sun creams and some make up, as well as abrasive cleaning products, many of which contain other types of tiny plastic. Microbeads only account for a small proportion of plastics in the ocean. The Prime Minister recently announced she wants to introduce some kind of charge on Single Use Plastics like coffee cups, takeaway cartons and Plastic Packaging and will start listening to ideas about how to do this in the coming months. Michael gove, the environment secretary, is already considering whether to introduce a reward and return scheme for plastic bottles, which would see people paying a deposit when they buy a plastic bottle, which they would then get back if they returned it to the shop for recycling. And just look at the impact plastic can have on our beaches. Storm eleanor has left these cornish beaches littered with waste scooped up from the sea bed by the waves. One campaigner described it as a tidal wave of waste and said removing it would be a mammoth task. Lets discuss this now with tisha brown from greenpeace, professor richard thompson, a marine biologist from plymouth university, who gave evidence to a Parliamentary Committee about microbeads, and dr chris flower, director general of the cosmetics, toiletries and perfumery association. Good morning, thank you very much for coming on the programme. What impact is this ban is likely to have . It would reduce the amount of plastic entering our oceans, we are currently up to 12 Million Tonnes every year, which is the equivalent ofa every year, which is the equivalent of a rubbish trucks worth every minute. We are very excited about the ban, it will help reduce the amount of plastic entering the oceans, which makes its way up the food chain, it is being ingested by fish, as you mentioned before. We are also finding these micro plastics in everything from beer to drinking water, honey, sea salt, all these things. It is concerning that we are having these where we do not expect them to be. We are happy that the ban is coming into force. So there is plastic and things like honey . Yeah, micro plastic has been found in all of those items. There is evidence for that . There is. Richard is behind you, sorry, if you turn around a bit, welcome to the programme. Richard thompson, marine biologist, how damaging heart microbeads to ocean wildlife . Well, we know that a wide range of creatures can eat micro plastic, we looked at 500 fish from the english channel, and we found it in about a third of them. The Laboratory Evidence clearly shows that it can present harm to marine organisms, so anything we can do to reduce the influence is really important. As you say, it is part of the process, we need to look at other items too. Is there any difference between microbeads in rinse off products, or microbeads in rinse off products, or microbeads in rinse off products, or microbeads in lotions, make up and suncream . Microbeads in lotions, make up and suncream . I think that the thing that needs to be considered is that the benefit to society, and that was never really clear, why we needed to be cleansing ourselves with small pieces of plastic, as we look at other products, we need to think, is there a benefit from having the plastic there . For example, they are present in some paints as a pigment, but the pain stays on the wall of your house, it is not immediately rinse down the sink, passed through waste treatment into the sea. So it isa waste treatment into the sea. So it is a question of weighing the benefits. Chris, you are from the industry association, why does the cosmetic industry use microbeads in its product . Well, we dont know, thatis its product . Well, we dont know, that is absolutely clear. So there are no micro cosmetic products being made from now on . We did not put plastic microbeads in leave on products, because the texture is wrong, they are gritty particles intended to exfoliate and cleanse. You wouldnt want a pretty arterial on your face. So we need to separate that from the discussion about the ban which is currently in place. We welcome the ban, because it places a level Playing Field not just for our members, who voluntarily gave up from 2015, but also for imported products they will now have to play by the same rules. Occurring. So we have a whole array of tables here, a whole array of goods on the ta bles here, a whole array of goods on the tables which show single use plastic, is that greenpeaces next objective, get this kind of plastic band, orat objective, get this kind of plastic band, or at least, as michael gove suggesting, you have to pay for it . We are currently running a campaign encouraging to have these deposit return schemes, as you mentioned, where you pay a bit more when you buy a bottle, and it is returned for recycling. Scotland is already signalling that they want a deposit return system there. Westminster is now considering whether we can make that uk wide, it would be a great idea, stop those 16 million bottles not being recycled every day. Will it be effective . It has been used in various different countries, it has been used in germany, where recycling rate of plastic bottles have increased up to 90 , so that is great. It has been trialled in other countries around the world, so we know it is an effective way of keeping them out of the environment. What about the rest of this stuff . The milk container, these plastic cups, the crisp packaging, grapes packaging. Yeah, the Treasury Department are looking at a consultation on taxes that we can possibly have on different single use items such as what is on the table, which we think would be good, but we really feel that it is for the manufacture of these products to pay and look at difference is tonnes of delivering their products, instead of passing on the cost to the consumer. Do you think a tax on Single Use Plastics will deter people, reduce pollution in the oceans, or should it be paid for by the manufacturers . It is a range of measures that is important. The starting point micro, looking at that table, if i was to show it to someone that table, if i was to show it to someone recycling, some would say, yes i can recycle that, others would say, at the moment it could be re cycla ble say, at the moment it could be recyclable but the way it is designed it is inadequate. The starting point has to be the design stage so that we are designing projects that means there is no escape to the environment and so that single use packaging is designed for end of life recovery. Up designed for end of life recovery. Up until now, we really havent done a particularly good job of doing so. And i think we have been using microbeads in cosmetics now for 50 years since the patent came in, could not questions have been asked before now . Do you want to answer that . They were brought in because they were very effective, of course, but 50 years ago people were not aware of the environment and pollution the way we are today. In more recent times, once the issue was more aware, companies immediately took action to remove microbeads from their products. So the cosmetics industry is in the clear . We think we have shown a responsible approach to this. We wa nt responsible approach to this. We want to work with ours now to tackle theissue want to work with ours now to tackle the issue of how we as a society use plastic. Would you agree they have been responsible in the cosmetics industry . I think, you know, they say they do not have plastic currently in different products, but the litter is a micro plastic, still used in many different products, and there are natural alternatives that we can use instead of it. Glitter. That is also coming out of rinse off products now, plastic based glitter, that is why the government was saying it is broader than any ban in the world, because it does cover those users too. But not in leave on products. But there are alternatives, and indeed, excuse me, most companies, you will find, will be using alternatives or developing alternatives, because they are aware of these concerns. We are living in the same environment, we are living in the same environment, we have families and friends who use the products, they are all asking questions of the people working in the companies, so we are not saying this is not our problem. We want to be part of the solution, we want to understand the contribution we make, which we believe is tiny but can nevertheless be managed and needs to be dealt with. We want to be part of the solution for the bigger question of plastic pollution. Thank you all very much. Thank you very much for your time. Coming up, the bafta nominations are out this morning. Well get full reaction to the films in the running. British talent dominates the leading actor categories. Prince harry and Meghan Markle are due to visit reprezent Radio Station later today for their second official event as an engaged couple. Theyre heading to brixton in south london to learn more about the underground Radio Station that was set up in 2008 in response to an increase in knife crime. The 2a hour station is presented by young people and aims to tackle issues such as Mental Health and cyber bullying. Our reporter clairejones has visited the station to find out more. The sound of young london on reprezent radio. An underground Radio Station presented by young people in south london is gaining international attention. We are going to be getting some more requests, but until then. They say theyre the sound of young london and from Humble Beginnings they have big plans for the future. Reprezent is more than just small brixton or like a youth club like we are literally everywhere and we hope to just continue to expand. I want to influence how we listen to music in the country. I want to push great talented artists. Ijust want to i have got so much plans, but i couldnt done none of it without reprezent. Reprezent is a station that i believe is like a family and there is a lot of opportunity at reprezent and there is a lot of direction. Reprezent radio is housed in these three Storage Containers and aims to help people get into music, radio, and media and most importantly, bring about positive change. I can just do so many things now technically and socially as well. It has opened up a whole new world for me. A lot of people get discouraged. As a station we branch out and were very accepting of people. The core reprezent as being like as accepting and family based thing, i thing the community appreciate that and we have had loads of people come up and say, i want to see the station. I think they appreciate the openness of reprezent. The station was set up in 2008 in response to an increase in knife crime. In 2011, the station gained an fm licence and since then there are nearly 100 shows going on across the station. There are a,000 people taking part in the reprezent Training Programme and there are 3,000 people on the waiting list. And some of the artists are now household names. Stormsy. Stormsy is one that people might know who came to reprezent years ago before he had any profile and he came on as a guest on a show and was so funny that we gave him a show of his own. So he was an agony uncle so people had to phone in and get advice from stormsy and that was really funny. The trainees and djs believe the station has helped them overcome personal challenges. Without reprezent i wouldnt have direction. I wouldnt be where i am today. I came here with i was lost, i was lost and ijust wanted to learn and they said yes and theyve guided me ever since. Around the age of 16, to 19, when all girls are growing up, everybody faces stuff, but for me it was on a ridiculous level. Ijust didnt think i could speak to people. Without reprezent being there, i think i would just be a recluse. I wouldnt be able to speak to people the way that i can now and be as open and as fun loving as i am today. Put your hands up if you are like yes, im stressed most of the time. The station is trying to tackle the issues that affect young people the most. You will see a jumble of emojis. You have 30 seconds to try and work out what the story means and then ill be taking an answer from the crowd. It is such a family feeling and i cant get it anywhere else at any station. Not all the time, but sometimes with older people can being seem patronising if they are telling you where to go and i have seen it through the people that i talk to as well, if you find that you have gone through Something Else that another young person has gone through, it is easier to connect with them on a level as opposed to a person saying, this is what you need to do. If i had somebody my own age telling me i have been through this and this is what to do and the best thing ever and thats what reprezent is the best thing for. On the sound of reprezent radio. In one their firstjoint visits, prince harry and Meghan Markle will meet some of the young djs. Its the biggest thing to happen to reprezent and im so excited for it. I cant wait to meet them. I think theyre going to be really cool and down earth which is the thing im most excited about. I keep saying with harry i feel like i would be able to speak slang to him and he would understand what im saying because he seems like a cool guy. Even if they dont ask, i will guarantee for no fee to dj at their wedding, i willjust for them. Anything harry wants to hear i will play it and i want to do a special rap dedicated to them as well. If theyre up for it, im here to do it. Our reporter clairejones at reprezent Radio Station which harry and meghan are visiting later today. Chaos. Disarray. Shambolic. Embarassing some of the words used to describe yesterdays reshuffle. Lets speak to norman smith. Many of mrs mays people hope new year would be sort of moment of new opportunities. She could assert her grip over the party, particularly after the back end of last year when you remember she got the brexit negotiations through the first phase, got the brexit bill through the commons and there was a sense ah ha mrs may is on the front foot and now she can get momentum with a meaty reshuffle. Instead, i mean, you know, blink and you probably would have missed it because not much has really changed. In terms of authority, well, you know, mrs mays ininability to shift key ministers such as just teen greening and jeremy hunt has meant the idea of her asserting authority has hit the buffers. It is not a particularly different looking cabinet. There are no more women actually in the cabinet. There are two more who are going to attend it. No more non white faces in the cabinet. It looks and feels the same. The papers this morning, i mean, they give it a panning, greening quits in shambolic reshuffle. There is not much of an upside. And we had the extraordinary situation ofjeremy hunt convincing mrs may on the hoof to create this new post, albeit this morning, jurpbt was coming back from a run, we can see the pictures of him coming back from an Early Morning run, he was not saying anything about whether he damaged mrs mays authority by his refusal to go. Reporter did you threaten to resign . Have you undermined the Prime Minister, mr hunt . So where do we go from here . Well, there is going to be a shake up of there is going to be a shake up of the middle ranking posts in government today and the may team are saying this is when we are going to bring on the new tory mps, younger tory mps, female tory mps, mps from ethnic minorities. The problem is brutally, no one cares. You know, whoever is under secretary of state for i dont know postal services, doesnt matter frankly to voters. The only posts which they are likely to notice is the big posts in cabinet. So it is not going to change the overall perception of the shake up. And i suppose the difficulty for mrs may is that far from being a moment when she can strengthen her position, it has underlined the old lurking doubts about how much control she has over her party and how divided and split it is over the issue of brexit. Cheers, norman, thank you very much. Imagine if your boss said i want you to movejobs imagine if your boss said i want you to move jobs and you imagine if your boss said i want you to movejobs and you said, no, not doing it. It would be really odd, wouldnt it . Cut the tension with a knife. Right. Now have a look at this. Is donald trump forgetting the words to the National Anthem . A lot of his critics are saying he cant sing the words of the star spangled banner. His supporters say he was proud to see him stand. He knows some of the words, it is obvious. The flag code makes no mention of whether the anthem should be sung by those present. Singing it is, however, encouraged from school onwards. We will leave it for you to decide. Lets get the latest weather update. Bottom good morning. Well, im going to take a look back in time because in 1982, from the 7th january for 36 hours, this is what happened. We had substantial snow across south wales. So substantial in fact, that throughout the whole of the month of january, we looked at a0 to 60 centimetres of snow. Thats getting on for two feet. Most of that would have fallen in the 36 hours, drifts up to six meters high. Really, covering cars, bringing down roofs of buildings because of the weight of the snow and for some, especially with the d rifts and for some, especially with the drifts many houses were almost totally covered so it brought chaos totally covered so it brought chaos to south wales and the ma was stationary. Quite a different picture today. One of our weather watchers pictures shows in wales, it is cloudy. It is notjust in wales. Across many parts of the British Isles that is the story. Cold, not as cold as yesterday, but cold nonetheless and grey, but not everywhere, across north west scotland, another beautiful weather watchers picture showing Early Morning sunshine. It is notjust north west scotland seeing the sunshine, north west parts of england, cumbria, around carlisle and North West Wales will see sunshine today and it should brighten up around essex, sussex and kent, but at the same time, we have got a weather front coming in from the west and it will introduce strengthening winds and also some rain, but with it, will come milder conditions. So, across plymouth, we are looking at ten celsius, barn sta ble are looking at ten celsius, barn stable nine celsius. For wales, it will remain cloudy. Again hill fog around and low cloud. Across Northern Ireland, well, the cloud continuing to build ahead of this rain and the wind is also going to strengthen, but ahead of it too, it will be a grey afternoon. Sunny across north west scotland, much of the rest of scotland grey and cloudy. Again with the odd spot of drizzle coming out of the cloud. Away from north west england, it is fairly grey and cloud xwri with the odd spot of drizzle. We could see brightness and across southern counties with that cloud, it wont feel as cloud with temperatures between seven and nine celsius. Through this evening and overnight, the weather front in the west moves north east wards, the rain turning patchy and behind it, there will be fog patches forming across the midlands, across Northern Ireland and after the rain goes through with the damp surfaces and the lower temperatures, especially across Northern Ireland, there is the risk of ice and we will see snow coming out of that across Northern England and the hills and the hills of scotland. So tomorrow, the rain progresses steadily north east wards. Again fragmenting as it does so. Wards. Again fragmenting as it does so. It will clear the east coast of england sometime during the afternoon, but hang around across north east scotland and the Northern Isles for much of the rest of the day and into the night. Behind twe will see brightness and sunshine coming through. Temperatures not bad at all, four celsius in glasgow and ten as we push towards the south. And then as we head overnight and towards the end of the week, we are more likely to see fog. We could have widespread fog first thing on thursday morning across Northern Ireland, east wales, into the midlands and southern counties of england as well. Some of that will be slow to clear. Some may lift into low cloud. Move north, we are back into brighter sunnier skies. No heatwave and temperatures coming down a touch in the south. If we look at whats happening on friday. Friday again, some fog to start the day. A lot of dry weather, but this system bringing wet and windy weather is coming our way. Hello, its tuesday, its ten oclock, im victoria derbyshire. Our top story today the journalist toby young has resigned from the universties watchdog after widespread criticism of crude and offensive comments hed written in the past. This wasnt just somebody writing some stupid comments on twitter, which weve all been guilty of in the past. This is somebody who has written some really extreme staff and really crosses boundaries that arejust and really crosses boundaries that are just too far. The full interview with that conservative mp in the next half hour. And also an interview with one former labour mp who was subject to comments from toby young about her cleavage. Paul has said, i believe he is guilty of little more than funny male banter, not a right wing sleazebag or misogynist, and i think it is time to end the feminist terror that is operating in this country. Tell us your own views. Also on the programme, hundreds of migrants are still in calais, a year after the so called jungle camp was destroyed. Well hear from one of the 700 People Living rough in the hope of a better life. How long do you think you can live like this . Three months, four months. I hope i dont get sick. Well get reaction from truckers and migrants. If youre a lorry driver and regularly travels through calais, tell us your experience of migrants trying to get into the uk. You may think that thing looks human, stands on microlights, right . And the fantasy romance the shape of water leads the bafta nominations with 12 nods. Well look at that and the other films in the running this award season. Good morning. Heres ben in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. Journalist toby young has resigned from the board of the office for students after more than 200,000 people signed a petition calling for him to go. In an article in the spectator, he says his appointment had become a distraction from the boards vital work of broadening access to Higher Education. It follows accusations that he had made offensive comments on twitter. The newly appointed chairman of the conservative party, brandon lewis, is insisting theresa may is fully in control of her cabinet, despite yesterdays reshuffle not going according to plan. Education secretary Justine Greening resigned after refusing an offer to become work and pensions secretary, and jeremy hunt turned down a move to business to remain as Health Secretary with added responsibilities. The reshuffle will continue today, with more ministerial roles expected to go to women, younger mps and those from ethnic minorities. Well, i think if you look at what the Prime Minister outlined yesterday in terms of how the departments are working, theres some really good new people coming in, weve got, you know, more women around the cabinet table now than weve ever had before, weve got actually a very clear focus. The uks equality watchdog has said it will write to the bbc about claims of unlawful pay discrimination made by its former china editor, carrie gracie. The equality and Human Rights Commission says it will then decide if further action is required. Ms gracie resigned after she discovered a gap between her salary and that of her male counterparts. North korea has agreed to send athletes accompanied by senior officials to the Winter Olympics in south korea next month. The two countries have held their first talks for more than two years in the demilitarised zone that divides the peninsula. The south korean delegation has also proposed more contacts between the two countries in what appears to be a significant move to lower tension in the region. Just over a year since the so called jungle camp was destroyed in calais, this programme has learnt that around 700 migrants are living rough in the area. French police say theyre clearing tents and blankets daily to stop a camp re forming there. Charities say awful Living Conditions there mean people are taking huge risks trying to reach the uk. A uk wide ban on the manufacturing of cosmetics and Care Products containing microbeads has come into force today, in an attempt to cut down on the amount of plastic in our oceans. The beads that are used in face washes and shower gels are often ingested by sea animals, and can even end up entering ourfood chain. It will be followed by a wider ban on the sale of products containing microbeads later in the year. Professor richard thomson, a marine biologist, told us it is a step in the right direction. A wide range of creatures can eat micro plastic, we looked at 500 fish from the english channel, and we found it in about a third of them. Laboratory evidence shows that it can present harm to marine organisms, so anything we can do to reduce the input of micro plastic is really important. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news, more at 10 30. If you want to e mail, you are very welcome. On twitter, use victorialive. Our Facebook Page is really great, thank you to you. Sarah is back with the sport. Brighton through to the fourth round of the fa cup after a win over crystal palace, 2 1. It was the first time the video assistant referee was used in a competitive match in the uk, that is how it works, on the side of the pitch. There was some debate about whether it should have been used for this late winner, glenn murray guiding the ball into the net three minutes from time to send them through to the fourth round. Some palace players suggested it was handball, but referee Andrew Marron was happy that he did not, and he did not feel the need to act further. Andre marriner. From where we were standing and watching, it looked for all the world that he had handball did, and the players close by thought so too, but when you see it lots of times, there is a very good case for the ba are and the referee to make that he did not handball it, very close, no complaints about that. The very close, no complaints about that. The var. Very close, no complaints about that. The var. English cricket coach Trevor Bayliss said he will step down at the end of the next ashes series. He says it has nothing to do with their a 0 ashes defeat in australia. He has vowed to start the job of building a team able to win down under before he leaves. |j job of building a team able to win down under before he leaves. I told Andrew Strauss probably 12 months ago that september 2019 i have been contracted to, and i have never gone longer than that in otherjobs, i have always felt that is about time to have a different approach from someone to have a different approach from someone to reinvigorate things. Today marks a month until the start of the Winter Olympics in pyeongchang, and in the next hour or so we will find out how many medals british athletes will be expected to bring home. Gb returned with a record haul from sochi bring home. Gb returned with a record haulfrom sochi four bring home. Gb returned with a record haul from sochi four years ago. Uk sport will reveal their medal target today, which will have a large impact on subsequent funding for these sports. Dame Katherine Grainger says she is expecting the best games ever as far as the Winter Olympics and paralympics are concerned. We have seen huge changes and improvements over the last 15 yea rs, and improvements over the last 15 years, a massive investment from the National Lottery and from the government, so it enables the team to become more professional, to have more athletes involved, to employ coaches, physiotherapists, all the experts who work in conjunction, and especially the winter games travel a lot more than the summer games, because they need to find more snow and ice than we have in britain. It requires a big investment to get success on that level. That is your sport for now, more after ten, 30. Morning, welcome to the programme. Toby young has resigned from the new Higher Education watchdog, he has been widely criticised for making crude remarks on social media, prompting team mate to say he would lose hisjob if the prompting team mate to say he would lose his job if the statements were repeated. But he said he has decided to step down because his employment had been a distraction. Some examples of the kind of thing hes said, or tweeted, in the past include. In 200a, he wrote an article about posing as a lesbian for the night and embarking on a whistle stop tour of new yorks hottest lesbian clubs with the aim of drawing lesbians into his confidence to make out with them on the dance floor. While watching comic relief in 2009 he commented, what happened to winklemans breasts . Put on some weight, girlie. A few hours later he wrote, alan carr has bigger breasts than claudia winkelman. While watching Prime Ministers questions in 2011, he wrote, thats quite a cleavage behind ed miliband. In 2012 during pmqs he tweeted, serious cleavage behind ed milibands head. Anyone know who it belongs to . And there are others far too crude for us to report today. I would get into trouble from you, apart from the broadcasting regulator hes also made a number of comments about disabled people which have caused offence. Rob hulse and is chair of the Education Select Committee and he is disabled. He gave us his reaction to the resignation. I think he has shown some courage to apologise for the many things that he has written, and i think he will doa he has written, and i think he will do a good job running the free schools that he does, and no doubt continue to be an interesting journalist. You voiced your objections eloquently to his appointment, to the universities minister in the house of commons just yesterday, a day after theresa may said that he could stay in his job as long as he didnt say anything else offensive. Why did you disagree with the Prime Minister on this . Well, i felt it was the wrong decision to appoint toby young. It wasnt just because of decision to appoint toby young. It wasntjust because of the things that he had said on twitter, it was some very dark articles where he talks about disabilities in quite a derogatory way, where he had written about supporting what he called progressive eugenics, and also had taken the mick out of working class people going to good universities. I felt this was quite a dark, and uncomfortable, and i thought that if you are put on a regulator for students, for universities, it would and im confident in that institution if you had somebody with those views in post. It would undermine confidence in that institution. Of the government made a mistake with this appointment . made clear that this was not the right decision is chair of the Education Select Committee, i waited a week to look into what he had written and said. But i think he had gone to such an extreme and crossed a boundary too far, that it was the wrong appointment, and i dont think enough Due Diligence was done when he was appointed. Which seems extraordinary, does it not . Because he has been writing and tweeting contrary, controversial pieces for decades. Well, he was interviewed by the chairman of the new regulatory body, the office for students, i dont know the process in which it was decided to appoint him. The argument was made that he had set up some good free schools. Now, that is a good thing, but many other people have done things like that, who have very good free schools, and i didnt understand why that meant that they had to choose him particularly. would like to read, if i may, for the benefit of our audience, who may not know the specifics of the things he wrote, here are some of the examples, particularly to do with disabilities and inclusion. In a column in 2012, he called on the government to repeal the equalities act, saying schools have got to be inclusive these days, inclusive as quotation marks around it, that means wheelchair rants, the complete works of alice walker in the library, although no mark twain, and a special Educational Needs that can cope with everything from dyslexia to munchausen syndrome by proxy. He went on, if michael gove is serious about wanting to bring back o levels, the government will have to repeal equalities act because if the exam is not accessible to a functionally illiterate troglodyte with a mental age of six will be judged to be elitist and forbidden by Harriet Harmans law. In 2015, he wrote about technology that could allow parents to select the most intelligent embryo in vitro. You wrote this, my proposal is this, once the Technology Becomes available why not offer it free of charge to parents on low incomes with below average iqs . It could address the problem of intergenerational social mobility and serve as a counterweight for the meritocratic elite to become a hereditary elite. I read those out for the benefit of our audience. You have a disability, a form of Cerebral Palsy, what does it make you feel when you hear those words that he wrote gemma well, it is horrible. If i go to a building, because i have difficulties with my legs, and i see there is a ramp, i am filled with delight. When you hear those kind of things from people who know nothing about this, you entertain, if i am honest with you, horrible thoughts about the individual making those comments. Ill so think of mothers in my constituency, there was a very important Autism Charity in my constituency, and you think of mothers who wade through bureaucracy and struggle everyday to deal with their children, look after their children, get them the best education, and they see someone like that ripping it to shreds. That is why, when i saw this stuff, i said publicly, wrote in newspapers and any house of commons that he had to 90, any house of commons that he had to go, because it isjust any house of commons that he had to go, because it is just unacceptable. Your particular interest is education, you are chair of the Education Select Committee. The editor of the conservative supporting magazine the spectator, referring to toby youngs work on free schools, says he has done more for others in the last few years than most of his critics will do in a lifetime, and toby young himself said, after his appointment, that one of the reasons it has caused such a fuss is because he was a defender of the government education reforms and it is a sector com pletely reforms and it is a sector completely dominated by the left. Is he right . I understand why the editor of the spectator is defending one of his colleagues, toby young is an associate editor of the spectator magazine, and it is a good publication, but i fundamentally disagree with what the editor of the spectator has said. This wasntjust somebody writing some stupid comments on twitter, which we have all done, i have been guilty of myself in the past. This is somebody was written some really extreme stuff, really crossing boundaries that are just too far, and as conservatives, as a conservative, we have to stand up for this, because otherwise we give an indication to the public that this sort of thing doesnt matter at all, and. Do you agree with toby young when he makes the point that the job of the watchdog, if it is to be done properly, as to include people from the left and right . I want good people on the right. So to bey young isa people on the right. So to bey young is a bad conservative. The things he has written is bad. He has done a lot of work on free schools and i acknowledge that, but there are other good people who have done work on free schools who happen to be from the right of the political spectrum, why they had to choose this individual, i dont understand. There are many good people who have done similar things to toby young. He has done a brilliantjob on free schools and ive acknowledged that, but that doesnt mean that he is the right choice to be on this regulator given what he has written and said in the past. We will hear about the wider reshuffle theresa may is trying to do. A tweet, i am one of the people who signed the petition to re m ove the people who signed the petition to remove toby young. Im pleased he removed himself. Carl e mails, the point needs to be made that theresa may backed toby young. It shows just how out of touch and weak the Prime Minister really is that she could not pick a fight with a misogynistic and working class sleaze. Never mind picking one with senior mps in her party. She is weak and out of touch of events and held to ransom by a party crippled by chaos. It really is time to go. Kathy says, no problem noticing cleavage, no problem tweeting about it. One of the tweets was from 2012. The subject of that tweet was pamela nash. Lets talk to her. Hello to you. Good morning. How do you react to the fact that toby young has resigned from the universities watchdog . I welcome the fact that he has resigned, but there are questions to be answered to why this went on for so long and why he was appointed. It wouldnt take much to google what he had said or written in the past. My jaw dropped open when i watched the Prime Minister on the marr show saying she didnt know he made the comments. He had to delete a0,000 or 50,000 tweets about one woman, this was sustained over yea rs one woman, this was sustained over years and years of these twisted views about women, disabled people, 93v views about women, disabled people, gay people and the working class. So it is beyond belief that anyone who was ina it is beyond belief that anyone who was in a position of appointing him to an important job was in a position of appointing him to an importantjob did not look and see that the comments had been made. He talked about political incorrect comments he made in the past and he was sorry and he hoped people would judge him on his actions and not his words . I appreciate he made this apology. He also said in his blog this morning that these were in a past time and a pastjob and not coinciding with his work in education. That is simply not true. And very well documented. The comments that he made about me were yea rs comments that he made about me were years after he started his quest to start a free school. He wrote, i mentioned earlier, i was telling our audience about the fact that he wrote in 200a about pretending to be a lesbian so he could tour nightclubs in new york, as he put it the hottest lesbian clu bs as he put it the hottest lesbian clubs in new york with the aim of getting them to make out with him on the dance floor. What do you think of that behaviour . I hadnt heard that before actually victoria, but that before actually victoria, but thatis that before actually victoria, but that is astounding, but again, this isnt about one action or something silly that he did that a few years ago. This is views that he has perpetrated over a long period of time. That are very well documented andi time. That are very well documented and i think the combination of that and i think the combination of that and the fact that there has been an outcry there are questions to be a nswered outcry there are questions to be answered about why he was appointed in the first place. He is showing such danes for the majority of people who seek a University Education in this country and who find it most difficult. Why on earth was he appointed to a role where he would be overseeing their welfare . Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much, pamela. Thank you for having me. A former labour mp. This texter says, so glad toby young has gone. I dont understand why he didnt go sooner. Another one, toby young will not be missed. He is yet another arrogant male. He should have been sacked before now. Breaking news, government sources have told the bbc that the International Trade minister, mark garnier is leaving the government. We will talk to norman smith in a moment or too. But you will remember that mark garnier, was a minister who asked his secretary, his pa, to buy sex toys if i recall correctly from a shop in soho. Mark garnier sources have told the bbc is leaving the government. The fact he is leaving is not related to allegations of inappropriate behaviour. The nominations for this years bafta film awards are out. Lets talk to our reporter chi chi izundu. The shape of water. We can take a little look at it now. My feet are killing me. Hejust my feet are killing me. He just hate them up. Thank you no thank yous, no yum yums. As silent as a grave. Sally hawkins is up for best actress and she says she feels it is a gift from my homeland and im touched about it. 12 nods is quite the accolade for one particularfilm. 12 nods is quite the accolade for one particular film. Loads. It is loads but the next two films that got the most nominations include darkest hour which stars gary oldman and three billboards. Lets look at darkest hour gary plays winston churchill. And before our forces are wiped out completely, now is the time to negotiate in order to obtain the best conditions possible. Hitler will not insist on outrageous terms. He will know his own weaknesses. He will be reasonable. When will the lesson be learnt . When will the lesson be learnt . When will the lesson be learnt . When will the lesson be learned . Lesson be learnt . When will the lesson be learned . How many more dictators must be wooed, appeased, before we learn . Oddly gary says this is his only second bafta nomination in his career which is considering the wealth of his back catalogue thats surprising. He is nominated in the darkest hour for best actor. He is up against good names. Daniel day lewis for phantom thread which is the last film he will make. He has said that before. He has said that before. But the other big film three billboards has got nine nominations as well. This isa got nine nominations as well. This is a dark comedy. Well, it made me cry and it made me laugh because its about a mum thats basically trying to get her local police to ta ke trying to get her local police to take seriously the investigation into the brutal death of her daughter who was raped. So we can ta ke daughter who was raped. So we can take a little look at that now. Hey there, mildred. You didnt happen to pay a visit to the dentist today, did you . No. No. Oh, so it wasnt you who drilled a little hole in one of big fat jeffreys big fat thumb nails, no . I said, of course not. You drilled a hole in the dentist. thought it was kind of funny myself, but he wants to press charges so well have to bring you in im afraid. Lets not forget this film three billboards won four golden globes. It is tipped to do well at the oscars. Clearly, it will do well at the baftas. The post didnt get many nomination. Thats a huge pim. That stars tom hanks and meryl streep. The awards happen next month with a new host, Joanna Lumley steps in after stephen fry decided to step aside. She is a feminist so i doubt shell let things slide. Thank you. Breaking news government sources have told the bbc that International Trade minister mark garnier is leaving government. Our political guru norman smith can tell us more. Why . | why . I suspect he is part of the demise of those who might be deemed male, pale and stale. He isjoined bya male, pale and stale. He isjoined by a host of other figures. John hayesis by a host of other figures. John hayes is leaving as transport minister, philip dunne as Health Minister, philip dunne as Health Minister and Robert Goodwill as education minister. What do they have in common . Yes, they are all men. Yes, they are all of, i think, they are all late 50s and they have all been around the block a few times. John hayes, he was made a minister in 2010, and philip dunne and Robert Goodwill, 2012 and they have done their time. This is part of what was being briefed yesterday for day two of the reshuffle, the clear out of the old men and making space for more women, more new mps, more younger mps, more tory mps from ethnic minorities which is part of what team may hopes will be a sort of different face of the conservative government to the public and a more modern and more diverse face. So we are now seeing the departure the pale, male, stale ministers who have been around for a while and are now, it seems, being cleared out. Yes. In terms of mark garnier he was cleared, wasnt he, bya garnier he was cleared, wasnt he, by a Cabinet Office inquiry of breaking the ministerial code after asking his pa to buy sex toys, i think it was . Thats right. He was at the centre of a lot of the furore just at the back end of the last year over the Sexual Harassment claims and claims of inappropriate behaviour in parliament. Youre correct, he was cleared, of the ministerial code, but there may have been a view not only was he of a certain age and he was white and male, but with the allegations, even though they had been put to one side, nevertheless, it was best to move him along and bring someone else in. I guess what will be interesting is sort of the shape of the new people being brought in. How far the government is able to bring in new mps from particularly the 2015 and 2017 intake, many of whom we re 2015 and 2017 intake, many of whom were sitting, fidgeting gnashed i think that they werent getting a chance to shine and there was parliamentary bed blockers who had beenin parliamentary bed blockers who had been in the ministerial posts for a long, long time and they couldnt get their chance. So, now, we will see whether mrs may is going to give an opportunity, an opening, to these newer, younger tory mps. Cheers, norman. Theresa mays reshuffle will continue later today withjunior ministerial appointments. Shell no doubt be hoping it goes more smoothly than yesterdays ultimately limited reshuffle. Billed as an opportunity to better reflect modern britain, in the end the only new woman to be announced was esther mcvey as secretary of state for work and pensions. Her appointment is likely to be controversal, because of previous comments she made as a minister in the same department serving in David Camerons department. So who is she . Esther mcvey started her career as a tv presenter on gmtv. We all have dreams, whether it about success in your careers or improving our relationships with family and friends or sorting out our finances. Whatever success means to you, were going to show you, how you can change your dream into reality. Plenty of people have, so why shouldnt you . But plenty of people have, so why shouldnt you . But what i really wa nt to shouldnt you . But what i really want to know, what does it feel like when youve achieved your goal . Originally an american concept, business and sports people have been using personal Development Techniques for years. These professionals dont spend money on things they dont think are going to work. And now the same techniques are available to all of us. She first became a conservative mp in 2010 but lost her seat in 2015. Whilst a minister in the department for work and pensions, she defended the rise in figures of people using foodbanks. More people are visiting which youd expect going to foodbanks because as the time is tough, no, no, no, as time is tough, as were all having to pay back this £1. 5 trillion debt personally, which spiralled under labour, as were all trying to live within our means, change the gear, make sure were paying back all our debt which happened under them. Robert halfon is mp for harlow and chair of the Education Select Committee. Ive been getting his reaction to Esther Mcveys appointment, as well as the reshuffle more generally. The choreography wasnt perfect yesterday, but there are good men and women in post, great new Party Chairman and deputy, essex men and women, i call it, running senior parts of the conservative party. Real white van conservatism, if you like. There are good people in the cabinet, damian hinds, the new education secretary, very compassionate conservative, believes in social justice compassionate conservative, believes in socialjustice and the public sector. I am pleased, actually, that jeremy hunt is still imposed, because the nhs is one of the toughest jobs because the nhs is one of the toughestjobs in because the nhs is one of the toughest jobs in government, because the nhs is one of the toughestjobs in government, huge long term problems. Iam pleased that sajid javid is there. So what cou nts that sajid javid is there. So what counts at the end of the day is not the choreography, but have we got good men and women running the country . You must be disappointed thatJustine Greening, country . You must be disappointed that Justine Greening, the country . You must be disappointed thatJustine Greening, the first comprehensively educated education secretary has resigned. comprehensively educated education secretary has resigned. I was apprentice minister until after the election, and i worked withJustine Greening, and she cared deeply about apprenticeships and skills, but damian green also comes from a working class background. Damian green also comes from a workingclass background. Damian hinds. I beg your pardon, damian hinds, very compassionate, he cares deeply about the public sector, i have known him for a long time, quite a wise man, so whatever the reasons thatJustine Greening has gone, way beyond my pay grade, at least there is a very good replacement in the shape of damian hinds. I want to ask you finally, if i may, about the new work and pensions secretary, esther mcvey, a former disabilities minister under David Camerons government, severely criticised by many people with disabilities, Many Charities that represent people with disabilities, for her implementation of personal independence payments and trying to get many people off previous disability living allowance. Well, the important thing is that when she was disabilities minister, we were spending roughly 50 billion a year on disability benefits, amongst the highest in the developed world, possibly the most highest amount of money. That money has continued. I think that the government have learned a lot from what happened with the payments and employment support allowance issues. From what i understand, there will be no more cuts or changes to disability benefits, and i wish well in that post. Is she a compassionate, . I believe she is, she is also from a working class background, from the north of england, and i think she will do the best that she possibly can for the country. As minister in charge of disabilites, she oversaw the introduction of personal independence payments, which replaced disabilty living allowance, and the closure of remploy plants for disabled workers. Labours shadow chancellor, john mcdonnell, was widely criticised for calling her a stain on humanity during a commons debate. Esther mcvey lost her seat not long after those comments were made in the 2015 general election but returned to parliament, in former chancellor George Osbornes old seat of tatton, last may. Esther mcvey, whos previously admitted shed like to be Prime Minister, is seen by colleagues as quick witted and more human than some mps. Shes previously been involved in a campaign notjustforboys, aimed at helping women to succeed in male dominated areas. Barry sheerman was criticised in 2015 for calling her a hard hearted during the debate in the commons. Former pensions minister and director of policy. Im sorry, i cant read that sirs si rs steven sirs steven web worked with esther mcvey. And simon crean has a neurological condition that affects his legs, he has used a wheelchair since 2003, also a charity campaigner. Welcome, all of you. I think you repeated your comment yesterday, why . It summed her up, she was, you know, the number two to Iain Duncan Smith, and we all knew in the house, and i was chair of the education committee, Robert Halfons role, and she looked at the welfare state is, you know, seemed to have the view that it was all about scroungers and her job the view that it was all about scroungers and herjob was to deliver that hard message. You know, she revelled in that role of being the hard person on the front bench. How do you know she revelled in it . Because i was in every question time where she absolutely glowed when she was delivering the hard message, you know, that, you know, the people at there, you know, most of whom she thought was scroungers were going to have the hard message that their benefits were being taken away from them, and benefits were being taken away from them, and i think it is summed up yesterday, we loseJustine Greening, one of the more most humane, liberal ministers in the government, replaced by this woman, who has this reputation for being a hard hearted hannah, and she will be in charge of universal credit, that is impacting on so many universal credit, that is impacting on so many lives up and down the country. You are the former pensions minister, sir steve webb, how did you find working alongside esther mcvey . On a personal level, i dont recognise the description that you have just heard. I have never heard her use the word scrounger in public or private, and i dont think Barry Sheerman has either. I would be interested to know when he has ever heard her say it. I was a member of the Coalition Government when we were trying to find savings, and it was a difficult time, fronting that up, and esther mcvey was someone who, i think, up, and esther mcvey was someone who, ithink, particularly up, and esther mcvey was someone who, i think, particularly as a woman in politics, in brutal politics, was picked on. Some much worse things than you have just quoted, which i cannot repeat on the bbc, which said against, she was personally vilified, and although i am not involved in politics anymore, i think that, actually, she am not involved in politics anymore, ithink that, actually, she is am not involved in politics anymore, i think that, actually, she is a humane person, the sort of person you want involved in these issues. Simon greene, as a disability campaigner, it was one of her responsibilities to oversee the introduction of pip, which took over from dla. She was not in charge of the department then, it was Iain Duncan Smith, but how would you regard her and her promotion now . When i saw on social media that the role she got was work and pensions, i thought it was a joke. She is one of the most disliked politicians in the disabled community, completely clueless about how disabled people live and. The policies that the conservative party brought in over the last few years have destroyed the last few years have destroyed the lives of many disabled people, Norman Tebbit said in an interview on newsnight that when you are disabled, everything takes longer and everything costs more, talking about the impact that the ira bomb had on his wife, yet they continue to remove dla or pip from thousands of disabled people, and esther mcvey made the comment that three times as many people are on it as when it was first introduced, through the wonders of modern medicine, more disabled people are surviving injuries, more disabled people are being born who would have died 20 years ago, they are now surviving, so we years ago, they are now surviving, so we will have more disabled people, they will need to claim pip and dla. I am people, they will need to claim pip and dla. Lam seeing people, they will need to claim pip and dla. I am seeing a people, they will need to claim pip and dla. Lam seeing a real people, they will need to claim pip and dla. I am seeing a real impact that these forms have had, people who have had it removed, they have lost theirjobs, people have been suicidal. Do you accept that one of the impact of the personal independence payments has been that more people have moved into work and remained in work . I dont know where the conservatives get that from, i disagree with that. Everybody i speak to, once you have jobs are in jobs they dont feel they can do, they have been forced into those jobs, and then they struggle on a daily basis in that working environment. And i think a lot of the time i dont think people are in jobs, they have been moved from jsa and back and forth, and they are doing voluntaryjobs. And back and forth, and they are doing voluntary jobs. I and back and forth, and they are doing voluntaryjobs. I know someone working in a charity shop, they are not being paid for that work, but according to the statistics they would class as working. I know people who have lost theirjobs under the government, and the amount of money that has been wasted on the by far outstrips the amount of money that has been by taking all these people off benefits. The fact that they have employed esther mcvey, who has made lots of. The gentleman who spoke before, some of the things said against have been wrong and too personal, but what about the tens of thousands of disabled people who have been picked on by her and Iain Duncan Smith and the rest of this clueless tory government who do not know how way real person lives . I do not think they care about the disabled community, i am disgusted she has been given this position, andl she has been given this position, and i hope she doesnt last long, i dont think there is a single disabled person in this country who would say she is a good choice for the job. We did ask for some conservative mps to come on the programme, sir steve webb is the former pensions minister, what would you say to simon crean . One of the things to remember is the drive that the treasury has in this, if it is cutting the budget, you can simply say no and walk away or try to work within, and say no and walk away or try to work within, and i think that is what esther mcvey did, so in other words, yes, anyone could resign if you felt it was going to stop things happening, or you can be within the syste m happening, or you can be within the system trying to moderate it, and you mention the positive work she did on young women trying to give them positive role models, and i think the caricature, you know, it is up to esther mcvey to defend herself and what she said, but my experience of her is someone who listens and is a good person in that role. My big concern is that we keep changing the ministers all the time, david gauke, her predecessor, was only there for seven months, it is a complicated Department Responsible for pensions, disability benefits and employment and so on, and having someone and employment and so on, and having someone who has been in the department before will help get her up department before will help get her up to speed. Thank you all, thank you very much for coming on the programme, sir steve webb, former member of the Coalition Government, Barry Sheerman, labour mp, thank you, and simon greene, disability campaigner, thank you very much. Charities in calais have told this programme around 700 migrants are living rough in the area again trying to make their way over to the uk. Its just over a year since the so called jungle camp was destroyed. But now French Police say theyre clearing tents and blankets daily to stop a camp re forming there. Charities say awful Living Conditions mean people are taking massive risks. They claim a 15 year old boy was killed over the christmas break trying to jump on a truck to reach his brother here in the uk. Our reporter catrin nye has just returned from calais. We bought you her full report earlier, heres a short extract. So this is where you sleep . This is. Yeah. Our roof is. Standing because of these trees. Ikram is 18 and from nangarhar, one of afg hanistans most dangerous regions. Hes been in calais a week. It must be so cold . It is. And, you know, how does it feel when it is cold and you are wet . Like, your clothes, everything is wet. How long do you think you can live like this . Three months, four months. I hope i dont. I just dont get sick. Because i dont want to leave. In october 2016, french authorities cleared the camp here, known as thejungle. But people have kept coming, finding new places to set up temporary home. So now thejungles gone, thousands of people every night sleeping between these massive amounts of industrial waste, right in the middle of calais. Charities estimate that up to 700 people are here now, many again pitching tents in the woods for shelter. But the police are constantly pulling these down because they dont want new camps here. The vast majority here are men from four countries afghanistan, sudan, eritrea and ethiopia. So weve just noticed some police over here, taking peoples possessions out of the woods. So were going to speak to them. Look, you will return . 0k. Its forbidden for you to stay here. Ok, thank you. 0k, thank you. How often, annie, do they clear peoples possessions here . There is one clearance every day, normally. Weve had so many reports of the police spraying with tear gas, tents, sleeping bags, blankets. And people themselves. People have been woken up byjust being sprayed in the face. And that is not a legitimate use of tear gas. Its an excessive use of force. Police in calais responded to this, saying they act in accordance with the rule of law. All day and all night here, people still wait for an opportunity to jump on a passing truck. So unfortunately last month two refugees died at the border. One of them was a 15 year old boy. And one person is still in Critical Condition after being severely injured. What we really want is just basic provisions allowing people to survive, and then for their cases to be fairly assessed while they are here. Were going to get the Truck Drivers perspective now, as well as the perspective of those who try illegally to get on the back of a lorry or under a lorry to get to britain. Farid saleh is a refugee who hid on a lorry in calais to get to the uk. Richard burnett is from the Road Haulage Association. Toby ovens works for a haulage company. Philippa boyles from the charity help refugees. The camp is closed, but clearly hundreds of migrants are now back there. What impact is that having on drivers . Its having a dramatic impact on drivers and i think before we talk about that impact it is fair to say that the camp was closed in october of last year. 2016 actually . Yes, sorry 2016. It is over, it will well over a year since it closed, but it might have dropped out of gaze of the media, but it certainly hasnt stopped and even since that point, drivers have been continually attacked on a daily basis over that intervening period and you know what we are still seeing, we are seeing attacks by traffickers who are, their modus operandi is to throw bricks, stones and put concrete boulders in the road and lie in the road to effectively stop drivers in order to create a queue and to jump on vehicles. So, you know, were still, as an industry, were still facing these issues, this issue has not gone away. How many attacks on drivers, or hauliers were there in the month of december say . Its difficult to actually quantify and put a number on it. We set up a helpline so we could get information on aldaily basis. So, you know, for those that are reporting it, we are getting daily reports of probably, you know, five, six attacks. We know the number are you know, five, six attacks. We know the numberare far you know, five, six attacks. We know the number are far higher than that. And the attempts to get on vehicles are far higher than that on a daily basis as well. Ok. I want you to talk about the risks you were prepared to take when you lived in the camp for prepared to take when you lived in the campfora prepared to take when you lived in the camp for a month or so in order to get to britain . Well, to start off with, there was the pressure from the police every morning waking us from the police every morning waking us up from our tents to relocate us. For example, we would make ourselves to the local charity way, on the way, there would be october stickicals, they would come with their sticks and say, you cant go this way, you have to go another way. this way, you have to go another way. The this way, you have to go another way. The police were after us every morning. We couldnt sleep properly. It wasnt a great place to live, will you the police were pushing us to relocate and the pressure from them was overwhelming for us. In terms of the risks you we re for us. In terms of the risks you were prepared to take to get to blind that involved at one point. Climbing under a lorry . Yeah, it did. Coming from afghanistan, the difficulties we had faced is, the risk that is here is much better than the risk to stay in afghanistan. So there was a lot of risk involved. And you were 13 at the time . Yes, i was. How did you hang on to that lorry or were you able to get inside . There was an extra tyre and i stayed on top of the tyre. It was risky and the, you just have to go through the tyre and just have to go through the tyre and just sit on the tyre. It was really risky. And did you see other migrants, other traffickers, potentially, threatening drivers, attacking drivers . I didnt see anything like that, but i heard stories that it does happen. The traffickers are doing anything to keep their territory under their control, yeah. Right. One thing that our audience always asks is why did you want to come to britain, to leave afghanistan, as a 13 year old boy and make your way through however many countries to get to calais in order to get to the uk ultimately, why britain . Because britain, we believe in a system that is there for refugees and asylum seekers. I personally didnt believe in the system that is in france and or in other countries i passed through. I believed the system in the uk, according to, from my prospective was safe and we would getjustice we need. Ok, thats interesting. Philippa boyle. Tell us about the 15 year old boy who say was killed in calais over the Christmas Period . Yes, that boy is actually one of five minors so people under the age of 18 who have been killed trying to get to the uk in two and a half years who have family members in the uk. So, many, many more have been killed besides having been forced to take those risks because there are no obvious, clear legal routes available for em. Do you know what happened in the circumstances here . He was killed by a truck, yes. He was run over or he was underneath or. He was run over. Right. In terms of what should be done, suppose responsibility is it . I any terms of the children, in terms of these unaccompanied minors who have family members in the uk or we have got a ten year old boy who is sleeping in calais, sleeping underan is sleeping in calais, sleeping under an emergency blanket, its really clear that there is an obligation from our government, a legal obligation under both the dubs amendment for unaccompanied children without family members in the uk and under dublin three for people with family members living here to bring children to safety. Is that ten year old with his family . Children to safety. Is that tenyearold with his family . No, he is unaccompanied. How has he got to calais and from where . He has come from iraq and he will have come, you know, with in the company of different traffickers, different adults, people will take him under theirwing, but adults, people will take him under their wing, but ultimately, adults, people will take him under theirwing, but ultimately, its adults, people will take him under their wing, but ultimately, its up to the governments to be doing more to the governments to be doing more to protect these children. British government . And the french. The british and the french government. James e mails, i worked as a volunteer in calais for six months. It makes me sick hearing people talk about our country being full. They dont have a clue about the suffering people are escaping. At the height, there was 10,000 people in the country. We can take that number of people. Those talking about looking after our own is a reason not to show people basic humanity are on the wrong side of history. Humanity are on the wrong side of history. Lesley humanity are on the wrong side of history. Lesley e mailed, of been watching your programme. I would very much like to help the young man in the film who gave an eloquent and heartfelt interview. If i can help one person, it will be a beginning. Colin says, what we need to understand is why they feel taking the risk of coming to the uk is worth it. Clearly, they think that the uk will treat them better than europe. Which what you have just told us. I wonder richard, what you think ought to be done. This is a humanitarian issue and its one where i dont think the British Government or the french government are doing enough. Its also a humanitarian issue for the drivers that are facing violence on a daily basis. They didnt sign up, you know, to face this kind of intimidation and violence. So i think, both the British Government, needs to be influencing the french government. The British Government is like a revolving door nerms it of the immigration ministers and the number of ministers we have gone through over the last two or three yea rs, through over the last two or three years, it is difficult to get relationships built and it is difficult to influence and difficult to make the changes. I think from a french prospective, you know, weve also got the french government and a disconnect with macron and his view and in terms of how he wants to approach things. From my prospective, there is intelligence and evidence that is suggesting that the heartbeat monitors are being switched off at the French Border so almost allowing migrants to pass through so, i dont think there is a will. What would be the motivation for that because it is easier . Because it is easier and they dont wa nt to because it is easier and they dont want to deal with the issue. They need to process the migrants quicker. There is no place for people to claim asylum in calais. People who are willing and ready to claim asylum in france, there is no easy way to do that and when you do, you still have to wait, you are homeless for three to six months or even more while you are waiting for your case to be processed. Ok. Thank your case to be processed. Ok. Thank you very much. Thank you for coming on the programme. Thank you. North korea is to send a delegation to the 2018 winter olympic games, taking place in south korea in february, officials from the south have announced. The breakthrough came as the countries met for their first high level talks in more than two years. The delegation will include athletes, officials and supporters. Lets talk to jihyun park, who fled from north korea in 200a, but hasnt been able to speak to her family that remain in the country. Jieun baek who has written about the conditions for the citizens of north korea. Her parents fled the country during the korean war. Christopher green is from the International Crisis group, an organisation that was set up to prevent conflicts. Jieun baek, what is your reaction . It is cautious sin is a nism. We have seen time and time again north korea proposing high level talks at a time of high tensions and they have put on their peace offensive and charm offensive. I hope im wrong that is not going to be a repeat event. But i am surprised at the timing, but i am also not surprised, they are brilliant diplomatic plays in trying to impress the world with their supposed normal image of themselves asa supposed normal image of themselves as a normal country. You have talk on our programme before about how you defected. You will know that south korea have proposed Holding Family reunions during the Winter Olympics for people separated, is that something that you might pursue in order to try to meet your family who are still back there . Yes, i know that the meeting is important to south and north korea and they talked about separate family issues, but that is family issues. It is human issues, but always north korea think about politics. Many north koreans, many korean families separated in the north and south, but the meeting time is not, it is peaceful, and this meeting because it is north korea always think about this meeting was political issues. Week ago, north korea were threatening nuclear war. Now we have got this delegation going to the winter games in south next month, how do you react to it . winter games in south next month, how do you react to it . I welcome it. There are plenty of humanitarian concerns that can be dealt with through this period of talks. I share the sane sism voiced earlier about north korean motivations, but south korea have their own motivations too. What would be their interests . Motivations too. What would be their interests . Explain to our audience . Well, they have got an interest in reducing military tensions between the two countries which is good for the two countries which is good for the south korean economy and good for the south korean people. They wa nt for the south korean people. They want to achieve the separated family reunions. So they have those goals and hopefully it is one way to get there. Ok. Well, we will see what happens. I wonder, jieun baek, you talked about your sin is a nism, what would be an ideal scenario . M would be a complete equalisation of the country. Thats ideal. I think more practically speaking a verifiable escalation of tension de escalation of tensions on the peninsula would be a positive achievement from these talks. Thank you very much. Im soary, we couldnt give you more time. Thank you very much for your time. On the programme tomorrow we look at new stronger strains of the drug spice and the impact its having on towns and cities across the uk. Thank you for watching today and for getting in touch. Were back tomorrow at 9am. Have a good day. Good morning. It is a rather cloudy, miserable day really for many parts of the uk. Weve got some mist, fog patches still lingering on and just a lot of grey weather as you can see from the weather watcher photo from the midlands. One or two breaks across north wales. Elsewhere, it remains cloudy this afternoon and rain will spread president s way into western parts. It will feel cold. Temperatures about three to six celsius, but less cold further south and west. But it is this rain which moves in through the night tonight, it will become patchy into the early hours of wednesday morning, but a speu hours of wednesday morning, but a spell of rain for many of us. Temperatures staying above freezing actually into wednesday morning, but againa murky actually into wednesday morning, but again a murky start to the day. Particularly in the north and the east where you have got the rain and drizzle. It will be slow to clear on wednesday. It might last for much of the day in the north east of scotland. Snow over the higher ground, but for many to the south and west, there will be drier and brighter weather and maximum temperatures up to six to ten celsius. Bye bye. This is bbc news and these are the top stories developing at 11. 00am. The new cabinet meets after some setbacks to the Prime Ministers reshuffle. Theresa may will finalise the moves today with a shake up ofjunior roles. International trade minister mark garnier is leaving government, a source says his departure is not related to recent allegations of inappropriate behaviour. The journalist toby young resigns as a member of the new universities regulator and apologises for past controversial comments on social media. The number of people waiting more than four hours in scotlands accident and Emergency Departments reached record levels at the end of last year. North korea agrees to take part in next months Winter Olympics in the south, in the first talks between the two sides for over two years. Plans to outlaw smacking children in wales, the public are to be