Transcripts For BBCNEWS Victoria Derbyshire 20171128

Women to never be afraid to ask questions and raise concerns. And its also the medical establishment in encouraging them to do so. Now, the Health Secretary in england is announcing rather than hospitals carrying out their own investigations when things go wrong an independent review will be carried out instead. When i talk to parents whose heart has been broken by something that has gone wrong in those very small numbers of cases, what they say is its not about the money, they just want to know that the nhs has learned from what went wrong so that that same mistakes isnt ever going to happen again. The uk lags behind many other European Countries when it comes to preventing baby deaths and premature births. There are around nine Stillborn Babies every day. Roughly 50 women still die in england each yearfrom issues related to pregnancy. And around 50,000 babies are born prematurely. Progress is being made, but there are concerns that difficult lessons are not being learned. Rachel is in the bbc newsroom with a summary of the rest of the days news. Details of prince harry and Meghan Markles wedding are expected to be announced today. The archbishop of canterbury has indicated the couple will have a church wedding, saying the pair had chosen to make their vows to god in a religious ceremony. The couple announced their engagement yesterday. The fact that i fell in love with meghan so incredibly quickly, was confirmation to me that all the stars were aligned, everything was perfect. This beautiful woman tripped and fell into my life, i fell into her life. And the fact that she will be unbelievably good at the job part of it as well is obviously a huge relief to me, because she will be able to deal with Everything Else that comes with it. The only airport on the indonesian island of bali has been closed for a second day amid concerns of a volcanic eruption. Massive plumes of smoke and ash have been spewing out of mount agung over the past few days. Rebecca henschke sent this report from near the volcano. Ma ntle mantle volcano is sending out thick clouds of ash, smoke and gas behind me with increasing intensity. Mount agung. Last night you could see a red low in the crater which we are told means the labour and molten rock has reached the summit. People have been told to get out of the area, a 12 kilometre radius around the volcano, table still staying in their homes, officials today are going to move in and forcibly take things out of the danger zone. At the moment there are farmers down below in the rice paddies and the valley people are going about their life. They view this mountain as a sacred site but now they are watching it very colourfully and are on high alert for an imminent eruption. Six british men have been released from an indian prison four years after they were arrested and charged with smuggling weapons into the country. The men had been convicted of the charges in 2016 and sentenced to five years in prison. But yesterday, an indian court threw out all charges and ordered their release. When it comes to aspiration and opportunity england is becoming increasingly divided according to a new report. The social Mobility Commission says london and the south east are still the best place for disadvantaged children to progress, whilst some rural and coastal areas are frequently left behind. Adina campbell reports. It all started with me wanting to do something. More than a third of children here in nottingham claim school meals and overall young people face some of the Biggest Barriers to succeeding in life according to the social Mobility Commission. At the school is working ha rd to commission. At the school is working hard to change that. It makes me so proud to have this medal. We have learning mentors in school, families have support with attendance, reading at home, it all comes together to give the children a springboard into the rest of the curriculum. In its latest report the Commission Says prospects for young people vary in almost all parts of the uk. It says two thirds of the areas in which young people have the best prospects of success are now in london while many rural, coastal and former Industrial Areas are being left further behind. With the midlands the worst performing region in england. Its notjust children from poor backgrounds here in the east midlands who may face some challenges. 0nly east midlands who may face some challenges. Only a fifth of those in work have senior or professional jobs. Youre not really pushed in, i wouldnt say colleges are that good, ididnt wouldnt say colleges are that good, i didnt feel they encourage me. Around here not many people want to give opportunities to people, if you are already in the job you can progress higher but if you are not and havent got any background, people are like, sorry. Relax your shoulders. The government says it is making progress and social mobility with one pointed million more children in good or outstanding schools than 2010 and the National Living wage helping to boost salaries. The pope will meet the de facto myanmar leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, later on the second day of his visit to the country. Last night the former Nobel Peace Prize winner was stripped of the freedom of oxford because of what councillors called her inaction in the face of the oppression of Rohingya Muslims, many of whom have fled to bangladesh. Pope francis is expected to highlight the plight of the persecuted Minority Group later today. The government has handed over its analysis of some of the Economic Impacts of brexit but the reports are missing some details. The brexit secretary david davis says the documents have been redacted to leave out commercially sensitive market information. But labour are insisting the public should be given all the detail. The bank of england has published its Fourth Annual stress test its assessment of how uk Financial Institutions would deal with a sharp downturn. Its concluded that britains banks could cope with what it called a disorderly brexit. its also the First Time Since the tests were introduced that none of the countrys major lenders have been assessed as requiring extra capital. This years test results show the Banking System would be well placed to provide credit to households and businesses even during simultaneous deep recessions in the uk and the doable economy is, large falls in asset prices and a very large stressed misconduct cost. Newly declassified m15 files have revealed thatjohn profumo, the former conservative minister of war, had a long affair with a nazi spy. The politician was forced to resign in 1963 after he was found to have shared a mistress Christine Keeler with a soviet spy in london. Cases of scarlet fever have reached a fifty year high in england. Newly published Research Shows there were over nineteen thousand cases of the illness reported last year, mostly in schools and nurseries, although its not clear whats behind the increase. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news more at 9. 30. In the next human is, we would be talking about a Union Planning direct action against ad landlords. If you are a private renter or a landlord i would love you to watch the report and tell us what you think. Do get in touch with us throughout the morning use the hashtag victoria live and if you text, you will be charged at the Standard Network rate. Lets get some sport. Jessica crichton is here. Its that time of year again, sports personality, talk us through the candidates. Good morning. Exciting. Ican candidates. Good morning. Exciting. I can reveal who was on the list, the nominees from last night. We will show you them now. Now and the 17th of december, these 12 british sports legends will be focused on one thing. Winning the public vote for this prestigious award. You are seeing the nominees in alphabetical order, bbc takes this seriously, not to give njie prominence to any political sporting candidate. Similarto political sporting candidate. Similar to the elections, actually. It will be held in the liverpool arena. The public will vote for their favoured by phone and online during the live show. In addition to the main prize there will be awards like coach of the year. Team of the year. Like coach of the year. Team of the yea r. Lets like coach of the year. Team of the year. Lets look at those candidates. Starting with Elise Christie from scotland. The first european woman to win the 1000 metre and 15,000 meter and overall titles at the World Championships. What a year its been for sir mo farah, retiring from the track in style after winning gold and silver at the World Championships in london in the summer. World championships in london in the summer. Chris froome won his fourth Tour De France title this year and Lewis Hamilton becoming the most successful british formula one driver last month, four world titles to his name. Anthonyjoshua. The world heavyweight title win against wladimir klitschko. Really made his name this year. What a fight. Totte n ha m name this year. What a fight. Tottenham striker harry kane on the list, fantastic year, winning the premier leagues golden boot. British tennis represented by johanna konta, lost to Venus Williams in the wimbledon semifinal last summer. He might not have lost his way to the strictly glitter ball butjonnie peacock is a contender after winning another 100 meter gold at the World Championships injuly. Adam peaty one two bristol gold medals at the World Championships, smashing his own world record and jonathan ray from Northern Ireland made motorbike history in september becoming the first rider to win three successive world superbike titles. What an amazing year for englands winning cricketers women cricketers. And yet shrubsole pa rt women cricketers. And yet shrubsole part of the whole world cup winning team. Bianca walked and made up for disappointment in real in the best possible way, retaining her World Championship title. Incredible list. No andy murray on the list this year. Victorious last time around. There will be a new name on the trophy. Pictures from last year, andy murray alongside the former british boxer heavyweight champion lennox lewis who presented him with the award. He couldnt make the ceremony last year, out in miami resting up after the end of the tennis season. No andy murray on the list this year, there will be a new name on the trophy, the ceremony live in liverpool on the 17th of december. Cant wait. Turn off, jess. He has to give someone else a chance. Fair enough. A group of housing activists is targeting landlords across the uk, who it says are exploiting Vulnerable People with poor housing. Acorn is a union for tenants who rent privately. They say enough is enough and that renters should no longer have to put up with poor sub standard housing and treatment. They use direct action to tackle what they see as bad landlords. But are they encouraging people to stand up for their rights or taking the law into its own hands . Andy smythe went to meet them. Across the country, private tenants are fighting back. The first couple of times i woke up here, i thought, have i bleep the bed . Thats how damp it is in here. I dont feel safe at all. I feel terrified. I dont even want to come home any more. Theyre building an army to wage war on bad landlords. Are you kind of vigilantes . According to some landlords, yes, we are. Turn your thing off, 0k . Theyre planning a conquest of our cities. Thank you very much. Whats your name . I suppose we kind of are selling something. Were selling them a union. Sorry to bother you. To give power to the people they said felt powerless. These landlords are doing whatever they want. They think theyre above the law. And sometimes, yes, people need to stand up to them and say, no, this is not right. Theyre acorn, a new union set up to encourage private tenants to stand up for their rights. Do you want to speak to the police . Not particularly, no. Weve come to meet this guy, callum hay. Hes been renting a flat from the same landlord for more than two years. He says hes gone weeks sometimes without any electricity, and no front door. But when we arrive, the police are here. So we go back later. Yeah, im at the point where i dont trust anybody. The rent heres just over £500 a month including electricity and water. Today, callum says is hes had an actual fight with his landlord. Its not really showing much bruising yet, but that is definitely going to bruise, because its sore. You can see it bruising down there. The landlords account . There was no fight. Callum attacked him. And apparently, according to the police, hes saying i hurt his finger. Was that when he was punching me . Fuming. Scared. Six. Sick. Because ive now got the worry that he might come back. Ive got the worry that he might attempt to hurt me while callum is working. And i dont feel safe at all. I feel terrified. I dont even want to come home any more. Id rather stay at work and sleep there. Callum and zena live here with their two dogs and a lot of flies. Callum says because of the former takeaway people next door throwing rotting carcasses into the yard. Theyve now stopped paying any rent because they say they werent even getting the basics. Boiler, electric, front door. You had no front door . The three basics. Ive never had no front door since ive been here. Although the electricians found that problem, i dread to think what its like in there. I mean, the mould situation is probably not good for us. And what is the mould situation . I mean, in here its not so much mould, its just obvious damp. But in the bedroom. Youre not likely to be able to see it without a light. When did the electric go . May be two weeks after we moved in. Thats what constitutes our secure door. Thats as good as it gets. Thats the lovely black mould. And if you look on the ceiling, where the mould is is where the waters pooling but not sitting on thejoists. This is probably the worst bit here. The landlord told us he wants to do the repairs, but workmen are refusing to until callum cleans up. We only really started standing up to him over the boiler leaking, and that was after about a year. And then when the electric went, because he hadnt paid the bill for the two years weve been here, like that was when weve really started to lay into him, that was when we got hold of acorn. This is one of the founders of acorn. We felt that there was a need for a Community Organisation that would represent local people on political issues without being tied to political parties. Its got members like a workers union, but acorn fights for private tenants rights. Theyll protest. Theyll go round landlords houses. Therell publicly shame them because of what they feel is a housing crisis. Rising rents, poor conditions, evictions, this kind of thing. But bristol has seen certainly very steep rent increases over the past three or four years. In some areas of bristol, we saw increases of nearly 30 in a single year. But other cities have different problems. So acorn grew. So were just heading over to darnall, which is a part of the city with quite a lot of renters in it. The kind of issues that we hear about are mainly things like illegal evictions, things like a lot of problems with damp, broken boilers, rats, and a lot of landlords that are not doing theirjob to fix those issues. Sheffields got a high proportion of rental properties and students. Fertile ground for housing problems. A Battle Ground for housing activists. The problem with the housing crisis is that a lot of its quite hidden, but sometimes just Walking Around places like this, its pretty obvious. So, yeah, up there, massive leak. Not only is that destroying the home, thats probably causing like a massive damp issue inside the house. Acorn is growing fast here as a result of a lot of old school canvassing. Right, ill leave you to it. Whats your house like the moment . People have mentioned things like the landlords not doing repairs on time, or things like just the cost of rent is just like going up every year. I havent got central heating. You havent got central heating . No. Wow. If you had a problem, what would you do . And they are effective. In the summer, this many turned up to barricade a vulnerable womans house. They stopped her being evicted. It is a question of power, really. As long as theres a group of people that own the houses and a group of people that rent from them, theres always going to be an imbalance of power there. Another person who has been helped is sarah. She didnt want to give us her surname. She said she had unwanted sexual advances from the landlord, who lived in the same house. Touching, groping. Hed grope my ass, he brushed across my breasts, he tried to kiss me a few times. Thats more than enough. Sarahs landlord denied the claims. Absolutely shockingly disgusting, ijust did not want to be near him. Didnt want to be in the house. Didnt want to be anywhere near him, ijust wanted to get out, and itjust got worse and worse, and i said i was completely uncomfortable with the situation and want him to back off and leave me alone. So he changed my six month contract to a month contract. And then from that, tried to instantly evict me. He cant. Its illegal to instantly evict you. It is illegal to instantly evict you. Hes got a duty of care, not only to you, but to your belongings. The landlord was threatening to kick her out simply because he did not got anywhere with her, with some of his sexual advances. She was probably about 12 hours away from being homeless. So not only did we take action to make sure the landlord didnt kick her and her stuff out on the street, we also provided some solidarity to support her where she had to go back into her house to get her stuff. People like that, they are bullying landlords, and we are just not going to take any more. What was life like as a renting tenant . Everything is a pain in the ass. And you never, youre never particularly secure. Well, youre not, because youve not got a front door. No. His landlord says the doors now fixed, but callums worst period was when his electricity was completely cut off. My partner then shouted at him that if he doesnt get the electric put back on, theres going to be held to pay, and then he turned round and said, i hope you die in here. The landlord denies saying that. Bristol City Council Gave the landlord 28 days to pay his bill, but acorn went round his house to demand he did it sooner. We said that we would keep coming back until it was resolved. That was on a friday, and on the monday, the electric was turned back on, so we definitely get the results. There are bigger battles. Recently, theyve succeeded in getting the council to scrap plans to start making the citys poorest residents play council tax. Today, though, its amina who needs help. Shes a working mother of four, living in this house. What are the biggest problems . The biggest problems is damp and the mouse Walking Around on the walls. And the kitchen, thats the worst. You have mice in your kitchen . In the kitchen, and they live in the sleep rooms. And tell me how much you pay for your house every month. I pay £850. £850 . Yes. With damp and mice . Yes. Acorn are going out of the landlords home to deliver him a letter. Asked him to appoint qualified independent damp specialists and contractors to fix other outstanding issues. We want it booked by monday, or we will take further action. Amina has fought this for two years. Her friend has the same landlord, same problems. For two years is enough, its enough. Its not acceptable. This house . Hes not got any damp problems they say that hes not here. Can you come and take the letter . Theres a bit of argy bargy. What does collective action mean . Does it mean basically taking the law into your own hands . It means acting together in support of a particular individual or where people have got a similar problem, acting together to solve it. It doesnt mean breaking the law. We are an entirely law abiding organisation. Its not fair. Shall we just put it in the postbox . Because youve got to go to work soon, havent you . We are trying to get him to sort out his obligations to his tenants, who are getting poorly because hes letting them live in horrible conditions. What did she say . Theyre saying that we have no right to be here. We do. Theyre saying that its nothing to do with them. Were just pointing out that all we wanted to do was to give them the letter. Hes given us no choice. Weve tried to do this through e mail. It through phone calls. Weve tried every other thing. He wont listen to us. Which is why we bringing it to his attention now. Excuse me . Do you want to speak to the police . Not particularly, no. They dont like it when we come here. And how do you feel . I feel. Now i feel happy. I dont know why. Do you get a lot of stick off the landlords . Yeah, absolutely. I mean, i think were public enemy number one, and the reason for that is were not afraid to name and shame them, put them on the spot. He doesnt deserve to rent out properties. Well get reaction from landlords after 10am. We are really keen to hear your views on this too throughout the programme. Get in touch in the usual ways. Heidi got in touch on facebook, you should not have to put up with that from any landlord. The trouble is there arent enough Affordable Council homes. Landlords do what they want and us tenants are always one step away from being homeless if the rent goes up. Karen says, my husband and i own properties that we rent out. Were not rich. Its our pension really. Were bit fed up being picked on all the time. There are bad landlords, but there are also bad tenants. Mark says, i am also bad tenants. Mark says, i am a landlord with 11 properties in the south west. I think the acorn is in essence very good. The harassment in landlords will result in some leaving the sector, so who is p going to house these people if that happens . Landlords are not allowed to harass tenants who dont pay the rent or damage the property. Tenants are always seen rent or damage the property. Tenants are always seen as rent or damage the property. Tenants are always seen as innocent victims. So level playing field, please. Reporting on this subject has to be balanced. How about a separate report covering violent, dirty, abusive and non paying tenants . We will be speaking to a landlord after 10am this morning to get his prospective on this. Still to come love is in the air. The ring, the chicken dinner, the corgis, well replay the best bits from harry and meghans interviewjust before 10am. Walkden and as the so called chennai 6 are released from jail well speak to one of the men billy irving whos been injail since 2013. Time for the latest news heres rachel. The bbc News Headlines this morning. New measures are to be introduced to reduce the number of deaths and serious injuries during childbirth in england. For the first time, parents of Stillborn Babies are to be routinely offered an independent investigation into what went wrong. The uk has already reduced the mortality rate for babies but still lags behind many other European Countries. More details of prince harry and Meghan Markles wedding are expected to be announced today. The archbishop of canterbury has indicated the couple will have a church wedding, saying the pair had chosen to make their vows to god in a religious ceremony. The couple announced their engagement yesterday. The fact that i fell in love with megan so incredibly quickly was confirmation to me that all the stars were aligned, everything was just perfect, this beautiful woman literally tripped and fell into my life, i fell into literally tripped and fell into my life, ifell into her life, the fact that i know she will be unbelievably good at thejob that i know she will be unbelievably good at the job part of that as well is obviously a huge relief to me because shell be able to deal with Everything Else that comes with that. The only airport on the indonesian island of bali has been closed for a second day amid concerns of an imminent volcanic eruption. Massive plumes of smoke and ash have been spewing out of mount agung over the past few days. Up to 100,000 people have been ordered to evacuate the vicinity. Hundreds of flights were cancelled and thousands of travellers were stranded after the airport was initially closed on monday. Six british men have been released from an indian prison four years after they were arrested and charged with smuggling weapons into the country. The men had been convicted of the charges in 2016 and sentenced to five years in prison. But yesterday, an indian court threw out all charges and ordered their release. When it comes to aspiration and opportunity england is becoming increasingly divided according to a new report. The social Mobility Commission says london and the south east are still the best place for disadvantaged children to progress, whilst those in the midlands and coastal areas have the least opportunities. The pope will meet the de facto myanmar leader, Aung San Suu Kyi, later on the second day of his visit to the country. Human rights organisations have it appealed to him to express support for the rohingya people. The government has handed over its analysis of some of the Economic Impacts of brexit but the reports are missing some details. The brexit secretary david davis says the documents have been redacted to leave out commercially sensitive market information. But labour are insisting the public should be given all the detail. The bank of england has published its Fourth Annual stress test its assessment of how uk Financial Institutions would deal with a sharp downturn. Its concluded that britains banks could cope with what it called a disorderly brexit. its also the First Time Since the tests were introduced that none of the countrys major lenders have been assessed as requiring extra capital. Thats a summary of the latest bbc news. Heres some sport now withjess. Starting with cricket and ben stokes is apparently on his way down under but not tojoin is apparently on his way down under but not to join the ashes squad, he was spotted at Heathrow Airport but the ecb says he is paying a visit to his family. Sam alla dies is the leading contender to take over at everton, theyve lost five of their last seven games since Ronald Koeman left. Karen carney has withdrawn from the england squad after injuring an ankle. England have won the first two qualifiers. And vetera n forward the first two qualifiers. And veteran forward Chris Hannington has been recalled for england for the Rugby League World cup final against australia. James roby starts at hooker. Thats all for now. The nhs in england must do better at learning from mistakes to cut the number of baby deaths and injuries in childbirth. Thats the message from the Health Secretary whos announced that all cases of serious harm or death during childbirth in england, will be independently investigated in future. The uk has some of the highest levels of stillbirth and early deaths among small babies in western europe. Earlier this year this programme discovered that at least 1,000 mistakes are made in englands nhs Maternity Units every week. The most serious incidents include the avoidable deaths of mothers and babies as a result of errors by midwives and doctors. 0ur reporter divya talwa met sarah ellis and her fiance adam, who lost their son jeano. An investigation by this programme has found that at least a thousand mistakes are occurring in englands nhs Maternity Units each week. Serious or adverse incidents where an unexpected harm, injury or death has happened. It can be anything from records being lost to a mother or baby dying. Last year alone there were 220 mistakes recorded every day. Weve also found that nearly 260 mothers and babies died overfour years. These deaths were either unexpected or could have been avoided. Only 39 out of 81 trusts responded to this question, so the number of deaths could be much higher. Some of the other incidents weve heard about include Staff Shortages, wrong medicines being given to patients, records being lost and delays in care. The nhs spends hundreds of millions on compensation pay outs for blunders made by maternity staff. In 2015, it paid out more than half a billion pounds. So whats going wrong . Royal college of midwives said safety is being compromised because of the pressure our Maternity Services are under. Lets speak now to bob moran his daughter poppy has Cerebral Palsy after being starved of oxygen during birth. Amanda braithwaite, has had four children. Hersecond, a girl, died unexpectedly at birth. And we also have midwife nichola sanger. She has 12 Years Experience as a midwife. Thank you all forjoining us. Bob, your daughter was starved of oxygen during her birth and she has Cerebral Palsy, explain to us what happened. Poppy was delivered eventually by emergency caesarean and we knew straightaway that she was ina and we knew straightaway that she was in a bad way, she had to be recessed stated in the theatre and she was taken to intensive care. She now struggles every day with Cerebral Palsy and epilepsy, reduced mobility, poor eyesight, she has seizures at night which means she doesnt sleep very well and we feel like the whole thing could have been avoided had we received appropriate levels of care. Wed been in hospitalfor levels of care. Wed been in hospital for 12 hours levels of care. Wed been in hospitalfor 12 hours before she levels of care. Wed been in hospital for 12 hours before she was delivered. And it was eight hours before they ran a ctg, on my wife to trace the heartbeat. Thats a sort of monitor, isnt it . Trace the heartbeat. Thats a sort of monitor, isnt it . That should be common practice to run a trace like that when you go into hospital with something wrong. So this announcement, i think, families like ours will welcome it, it seems like a big step forward and it would be very welcome news for all families who have suffered an incident like this. Amanda, i want to bring you m, this. Amanda, i want to bring you in, you lost your second child, a daughter, during childbirth. She was resuscitated, wasnt she and therefore you got an inquest. Did that help you provide answers to what had happened . No, the inquest was incredibly frustrating for us. I was incredibly frustrating for us. I was hoping to be able to sit in front of the staff who were at the hospital and ask questions which i was able to do but unfortunately you know, they had gone through a sequence know, they had gone through a sequence of events that have happened and the doctor who performed the postmortem was there but the hospital had conveniently lost a load of very important notes which were blood tests, taken from my daughter and myself on the day, korda samples, placenta samples by the time the inquest came they only had what was in the postmortem which was nothing, there was absolutely nothing wrong with her, she was a full term baby and there was absolutely no reason for her death. So we walked away with no answers. So we walked away with no answers. So in some ways was that even more frustrating for you because presumably when you went to the inquest you hoped to get those a nswers . Inquest you hoped to get those answers . Is, absolutely, i had really hoped i could ask the questions but somehow, when you are faced with the shock and tragedy, when you basically have the first meeting with the staff after your baby has died, you ask the questions that come to mind but in the months following you question everything. I thought i could sit down and actually write down some questions and asked the coroner, as the obstetrician who was there from the hospital but i got nothing, i found it very frustrating and at the end of the day we walked away with a verdict of Natural Causes and theres absolutely nothing natural about going into labour with a full term baby that you carried for nine months, the labourer was straightforward, textbook, something that every mother wants, i was elated when she was born and then it alljust unfolded elated when she was born and then it all just unfolded and elated when she was born and then it alljust unfolded and it was absolutely devastating to watch my daughter die absolutely devastating to watch my daughterdie in absolutely devastating to watch my daughter die in front of me and for no reason, no one can still tell me why it happened. Bob, did you have a sense, i dont want to put words in your mouth amanda, but i shane lowry almost felt powerless and i wonder bob if you felt the same, although you did not lose your daughter clearly she was disabled by what happened. I can absolutely identify with what amanda is talking about in terms of feeling powerless and being desperate for answers about how did we get to this point . I think there have always been local investigations into these incidents and too often they have come up with unsatisfying conclusions or no conclusions. 1 think as a parent you a lwa ys conclusions. 1 think as a parent you always carry a huge weight of responsibility for anything that happens to your child. Absolutely. And thats really difficult and youll probably never be able to get away from that but to have a trust ora away from that but to have a trust or a hospital hold up hands and say actually, we made huge mistakes and this should never have happened. Makes such a difference. We still havent ever had a formal apology and like you, i wasnt monitored, i had gone into hospital in labour, i had gone into hospital in labour, i had waited in reception, they could see had waited in reception, they could see i was in full bloom labour, i could hardly stand, i waited around for half an hour for a bed, eventually i was told there was a bed available to me, i couldnt walk, i was calling because i was ready to push, no one offered me a future, no one helped me to my room except i husband, i got onto the bed, no one monitored me, did not check my heart rate and only later we realised if they have monitored me they would have realised she was in distress i would have gone in for an emergency caesarean and she probably would have been absolutely fine. I want to bring in nicola who is listening. A midwife of 12 years, ive been watching her expression is listening to this and i can tell its difficult for you to listen to this, i guess its important to point out its a very small number of babies that die each year in this country, we are looking at 700,000 births and only 1000 of those babies, not that bad is any comfort to the families whatsoever like amanda who have been affected. Absolutely, my heart goes out to both of those families and all families that go through those experiences. Itjust families that go through those experiences. It just comes families that go through those experiences. Itjust comes down families that go through those experiences. It just comes down to, both situations sound like it was a busy unit, you dont want to be left in labourat the busy unit, you dont want to be left in labour at the top of the corredera, you should have been welcomed and taken to your room. Its a really difficult situation. At the top of the corridor. Its a really difficult situation. At the top of the corridor. Each hospital is so different. Do you think its important that independent investigations will be the way forward because weve heard from bob and amanda local investigations have taken place and it seems like many parents dont have faith in those . I think you cannot ignore that. I think that needs to happen so for the families, they get direct answers. As long as these trusts are then helped, if things are picked up, issues that have arisen, its not them becoming more of a blame culture, these trusts are helped to move forward with maybe courses, more learning, more direct help to help those trusts, there may be issues that are picked up from. Bob, do you think an independent investigation is key to this that is being announced today . I think we are a bit thin on detail. 0ne i think we are a bit thin on detail. One of the things i would like to emphasise is that parents and families, like us, who have been through bad experiences should be involved in having a say in how these independent investigations will work and you know, i certainly think they need to involve clinicians and experts in the same way that you involve them with going through the courts. At the moment, if you take the route of going through the courts, its incredibly drawn out. It is an incredibly harrowing process. Its a difficult thing for families to go through. So, ithink thing for families to go through. So, i think that is very important for parents to be involved. I also think as weve just heard, training is really crucial in all of this. Im an ambassador for is really crucial in all of this. Im an ambassadorfora is really crucial in all of this. Im an ambassador for a charity baby lifeline. They are driving the change in providing new training for clinicians about trying to provide safer Maternity Care and one of the biggest things that they have picked up biggest things that they have picked up on is communication, break down in communication between staff within teams and across different dplins, information is not being disdisciplines, information is not being carried across with patients when they are transferred. Being carried across with patients when they are transferredlj being carried across with patients when they are transferred. I wonder if that comes back to what nicola was talking about a blame culture. Is there a fear amongst nhs staff . There is be defensive practise that you see all the time. Often you lose your autonomy because you are frightened about whats going to happen, but then you have the stresses and strains of busy wards. Of busy labour wards. I work out in the community so im carrying a case load and part of myjob is to make sure that the plan of care is in place, but sometimes things happen. Again, like, bobjust said, miscommunication. People dont attend appointments, all those Little Things can make the big picture hard, but also there is lots of other women come in now with other health complications. There is lots of other factors that then put more stresses on those labour wards which there isnt always the right equipment. There isnt always the right technologies and the right staff quantities then to be able to ca re staff quantities then to be able to care for everybody thats in that labour ward because a low risk person walks in and maybe they dont get the care they should receive and then tragic things happen like we have been hearing about. We are out of time. I really appreciate you sharing your store chris this morning. Coming up, well be speaking exclusively to one of the british men released from an indian prison, four years after being arrested and detained on weapons charges. Thats coming up just after 10am. So weve heard the love story, seen the ring and the beaming smiles and now attention is turning to exactly when and where prince harry and Meghan Markle will get married. More details could be released this afternoon. During yesterdays joint interview we learnt that the couple went on holiday together after two dates. They knew nothing about each other when they first met. They were set up on a blind date. Prince harry proposed over a Roast Chicken dinner. The queens corgis really like meghan. Shell give up her acting career. For those of you who cant get enough of it, heres that interview, with a few more bits weve not yet heard. It happened a few weeks ago. It happened a few weeks agom it happened a few weeks ago. It was a cosy night. We were roasting chicken. Trying to roast a chicken. Just an amazing surprise. It was so sweet and natural and very romantic. He got on one knee. Of course. Was itan he got on one knee. Of course. Was it an instant yes from you . Yes, as a matter of fact i could barely let you finish proposing. She didnt let me finish. Can i say yes . . There we re me finish. Can i say yes . . There were hugs. Can i give you the ring . She was, ah, yes, the ring. I think ring . She was, ah, yes, the ring. Ithinki ring . She was, ah, yes, the ring. I think i managed to catch her by surprise as well. Had this is how long after you first met . It would bea long after you first met . It would be a year and a half, two, a little bit more. No, about a year and a half. Bit more. No, about a yearandahalf. Which for most people would be a whirlwind. Is that how it felt to you . I dont think i would call it a whirlwind in terms of our relationship. Obviously there have been layers attached to how public it has become after we had a good five, six months almost with just privacy which was amazing. But no, i think, just privacy which was amazing. But no, ithink, we just privacy which was amazing. But no, i think, we were able to really have so much time just to connect and we never went longer than two weeks without seeing each other even though we were doing a Long Distance relationship. We made it work. How did you first meet . We were introduced by a mutualfriend did you first meet . We were introduced by a mutual friend who sfloops we shall protect her privacy. Not too much of that. But it was literally, it was through her and then we met once and twice back to back two dates in london. Lastjuly. Back to back two dates in london. Last july. Yes. Beginning ofjuly. And then it was, i think, about three, maybe four weeks later, that i managed to persuade her to come andjoin me in i managed to persuade her to come and join me in bat swan that and we camped out with each other under the stars and we spent, she joined me for five days out there which was fantastic. Then we were really by ourselves which was crucial to me to make sure we had a chance to get to know each other. The friend who introduced you, was she trying to set you up . Introduced you, was she trying to set youup . Yes. It was a blind date. We talk about it and even then because im from the states, you dont grow up with the same understanding of the royal family and so, while i know and understand clearly there is a global interest there. I dont know much about him and so the only thing i had asked her when she said she wanted to set us her when she said she wanted to set us up, i said, is he nice . If he wasnt kind itjust didnt, it didnt seem like it would make sense. How much did you, prince harry, know about meghan . Had you seen harry, know about meghan . Had you seen her on tv . I hadnt heard about her until this friend said Meghan Markle. I was right, 0k, her until this friend said Meghan Markle. Iwas right, 0k, give her until this friend said Meghan Markle. I was right, 0k, give me a bit of background. Whats going on here . I had never watched suits and never heard of meghan before. I was beautifully surprised when i walked into that room and saw her and there she was sitting there. I was like 0k, she was sitting there. I was like ok, im she was sitting there. I was like ok, im going to have to really up my game here and make sure i have got a good chat. In the case of your relationship, there is a layer of what it means to get involved with someone what it means to get involved with someone from the royal family. How much of a sense did you have, meghan of the enormity of what you were getting into and what it might mean for your life i can safely say as naive as it sounds now having gone through this learning curve in the past year and a half, i did not have any understanding of just past year and a half, i did not have any understanding ofjust what it would be like. I dont think. |j would be like. I dont think. tried to warn you as much as possible, but i think both of us we re possible, but i think both of us were totally surprised by the reaction after the first five or six months that we had to ourselves of what would actually happen from then. You can have as many conversations as you want and try and prepare as much as possible, but we we re and prepare as much as possible, but we were unprepared. The scrutiny . All sorts. I think also because there is a misconception that because i have worked in the Entertainment Industry that this would be something i would be familiar with, even though i was on my show for six years and working before that, i have never been part of tabloid culture or pop culture to that degree and lived relatively quiet life even though i focus so much on myjob and so that was a really stark difference out of the gate. Some of that scrutiny and you ended up making a Public Statement about it, some of the scrutiny was centred around your ethnicity. When you realised that, what did you think . Of course, its disheartening. Its a shame that thatis disheartening. Its a shame that that is the climate in this world to focus that much on that or that would be discriminatory in that sense, but i think, you know, at the end of the day, im really proud of who i am and where i come from and we have never put any focus on that. Weve just focussed on who we are as a couple. It is an immense change. Youre getting a new country out of it. A husband obviously, but also giving up your career. Yes. But i dont see it as giving anything up. Ijust see it as a change. Its a new challenge. Its a new chapter, right . And keep in minute i have been working on my show for seven years. So, we were very, very fortunate to be able to have that sort of longevity on a series and for me once we hit the 100 episode marker, i thought, for me once we hit the 100 episode marker, ithought, you know for me once we hit the 100 episode marker, i thought, you know what i have, i have ticked this box and i feel proud of the work i have done there and it is time to work as a team with you. Meghan, given your acting in the profile you had, you had been an ambassador for un women. What about this new platform . What do you want to do with it . The same. Can you imagine . Im not a singer. No, what has been really exciting as we talk about the transition of this out of my career, but into the role, the causes that have been very important to me, i can focus even more energy on because very important to me, i can focus even more energy on because very early out of the gate, i think, you realised once you have access or a voice that people are willing to listen to and with that comes responsibility. Meghan, your pa rents, responsibility. Meghan, your parents, they are happy for you, obviously, do you think they have worried about the scale of what youre getting into worried about the scale of what youre getting into im sure the onset, both my parents and my Close Friends were concerned because we got very quickly swept up in a media storm which was not part of my life before that, but they also had never seen me so happy and i think also once my friends were able to really meet harry and my mum, who we spent a lot of time with, who is so much fun. Her mum is amazing. It was just obvious that no matter what we we re just obvious that no matter what we were being put through, that it was just temporary and that we were going to be able to get through that. So everyone was really happy. Harry has talked to my dad a few times. He hasnt been able to meet him yet. But it has been worth every effort. Children . Not currently, no of course, you know, i think, effort. Children . Not currently, no of course, you know, ithink, one step at a time and hopefully we will start a family in the near future. And have you met the queen . start a family in the near future. And have you met the queen . I have, yes. A couple of times. Halfs that like . Its incredible. You know, a, to be able to meet her through his lens, notjust to be able to meet her through his lens, not just with to be able to meet her through his lens, notjust with his honour and respect for her as the monarch, but the love that he has for her as his grandmother. All of those layers have been so important for me so when i met her i had such a deep understanding and of course, incredible respect for being able to have that time with her and weve had a really, she is an incredible woman. And the corgis took to you straightaway. I have spent the last 33 years being barked at and this one walks in and nothing, wagging tails. Your ring. 0h one walks in and nothing, wagging tails. Your ring. Oh yes. Tell us about your ring. The ring is obviously yellow gold because thats what her favourite. And the main stone itself, i sourced from botswa na stone itself, i sourced from botswana and the little diamonds either side are from my mothers jewellery collection to make sure she is with us on this crazyjourney together. And. Its beautiful and he designed it. Its incredible. Yeah. Make sure it stays on that finger of course what does it mean to you meghan to have those stones on yourfinger that once to you meghan to have those stones on your finger that once belonged to Princess Diana . On your finger that once belonged to Princess Diana . I think everything about harrys thoughtfulness and the inclusion of that and obviously not being able to meet his mum, it is so important to me to know that she is a part of this with us. What do you think your mother would have thought of meghan or said about meghan . They would be as thick as thieves without question. I think she would be over the moon, jumping up and down, so excited for me, but then she would have been best friends with meghan. It is days like today when i really miss having her around and miss being able to share the happy news, but with the ring and with Everything Else thats going on, im sure. She is with us. Im sure she is with us jumping sure. She is with us. Im sure she is with usjumping up and down somewhere else. Prince harry, Meghan Markle, thank you very much. Thank you so much. It is that little look at the end, it is incredible. Full details of the Royal Wedding throughout the day on bbc news. Lets get the latest weather update with simon king. Go if you thought it was going to be cold, over the next few days, it will be colder. We have a wind coming from the arctic. It is bringing us wintry showers across the north east of scotland and increasingly down the eastern side of england. A few showers towards west wales and South West England, but it will feel cold. Factor in the wind and it will feel more like one to five celsius during this afternoon. Tonight, we will continue with the showers across the north of scotla nd with the showers across the north of scotland and the eastern side of england. Those becoming wintry and snow. Down to lower levels there would be a bit of sleetiness. Temperatures will fall down to freezing. 0nce temperatures will fall down to freezing. Once again during wednesday, we will have the showers down the eastern side of england and further southward into the south east later in the afternoon. Further west, one or two showers for pembroke. For many of us, it will be a dry day with sunshine, but again, feeling cold. Bye bye. Hello its tuesday, its ten oclock, im chloe tilley in for victoria derbyshire. Our top story today the nhs plan to reduce the high numbers of stillbirths and early deaths in england, including independent investigations into what happened. When i talk to parents whose heart has been broken by something that has been broken by something that has gone wrong in those very small numbers of cases, what they say is, they dont talk about the money, they dont talk about the money, they just want to know that the nhs has learned from what went wrong. Also on the programme more than a third of mothers experience Mental Health issues after giving birth. Well be getting reaction from three mothers later this hour. Also on the programme, taking the law into their own hands or encouraging people to stand up for their own rights . The housing rights activists encouraging direct action against bad landlords who let people rent homes like this. Hallway, electric, front though. I have never had a front door since i have never had a front door since i have been here. I dread to think what life is like in there. In the next half hour, well hear from a landlord as well as a tenant who says the propertys shes rented have been in a terrible state. The propertys shes rented yesterday the family of the chennai six were over the moon at the news that the six british men were to be released from prison in india. And in the last few hours they have been released. Well get reaction from them shortly. Good morning. Heres rachel in the bbc newsroom with a summary of todays news. New measures are to be introduced to reduce the number of deaths and serious injuries during childbirth in england. For the first time, parents of Stillborn Babies are to be routinely offered an independent investigation into what went wrong. The uk has already reduced the mortality rate for babies but still lags behind many other European Countries. Heres our health correspondent, dominic hughes. Losing twins during pregnancy, and then having baby hugo very prematurely, means rachel understands all too well the challenges childbirth can present. Her experience has taught her that parents and medical staff need to be more aware of when things could go wrong. I think its education of pregnant women to never be afraid to ask questions and raise concerns. And its also the medical establishment in encouraging them to do so. Now, the Health Secretary in england is announcing that rather than hospitals carrying out their own investigations when things go wrong, an independent review will be carried out instead. When i talk to parents whose heart has been broken by something that has gone wrong in those very small numbers of cases, what they say is its not about the money, they just want to know that the nhs has learned from what went wrong so that that same mistakes isnt ever going to happen again. The uk lags behind many other European Countries when it comes to preventing baby deaths and premature births. There are around nine Stillborn Babies every day. Roughly 50 women still die in england each yearfrom issues related to pregnancy. And around 50,000 babies are born prematurely. Progress is being made, but there are concerns that difficult lessons are not being learned. More details of prince harry and Meghan Markles wedding are expected to be announced today. The archbishop of canterbury has indicated the couple will have a church wedding, saying the pair had chosen to make their vows to god in a religious ceremony. The couple announced their engagement yesterday. The main airport on the indonesian island of bali has been closed for a second day amid concerns of a volcanic eruption. Massive plumes of smoke and ash have been spewing out of mount agung over the past few days. Up up to 100,000 people have been ordered to evacuate the vicinity. Hundreds of flights were cancelled and thousands of travellers were stranded after the airport was initially closed on monday. Six british men have been released from an indian prison four years after they were arrested and charged with smuggling weapons into the country. The men had been convicted of the charges in 2016 and sentenced to five years in prison. But yesterday, an indian court threw out all charges and ordered their release. Pope francis has arrived in myanmar for the first papal visit to a country widely accused this year of ethnic cleansing of Rohingya Muslims. The pope is expected to meet the countrys de facto leader Aung San Suu Kyi. Human rights organisations have urged him to express support for the rohingya people whove been denied citizenship. Thats the summary of the latest news. More from me at 1030. Lots of you getting in touch about that story, these new measures being introduced by the government to try and cut the number of deaths of babies during childbirth. A couple of anonymous text, one says i was a midwifery manager with expertise into leading investigations into what went wrong. Last year i experienced an horrendous experience where i believe my granddaughter and daughter could well have died if i wasnt there. Sad to say there was a bullying culture within the nhs which some midwives have adopted, and this has to be addressed from government level. Weve had a tweet from jennifer saying this report makes it sound like it arose in hospital are caused by bad staff and wilful ignorance. This is not what research has shown. The question is what are the impacts of years of austerity and Staff Shortages within the nhs . Keep your thoughts coming on those stories and any others were talking about this morning, using the hash tag victorialive. Now lets get some sports news with jess. Starting with cricket. The ecb says ben stokes is visiting family in new zealand and not heading to australia, after he was apparently spotted flying out of heathrow. He has been suspended since being arrested in september on suspicion of actual bodily harm after an incident outside a nightclub. 0ur Sports Correspondent andy swiss is following the tour. Welcome the adelaide where the england players have arrived from brisbane. Plenty for them to think about over the next few days before the second test gets underway on saturday. While they were flying year, the big talking point was another cricketer making a plane journey. Talking point was another cricketer making a planejourney. A picture appeared on twitter which, it was claimed, was ben stokes at an airport. That prompted feverish speculation he was on his way to australia. The england and Wales Cricket board say that he is not. But he is on his way to new zealand. The ecb said hes making a private trip to new zealand to spend some time with his family. But it seems as if he also wants to play some cricket out there. The new zealand side, canterbury, say they have held initial informal discussions with him over his availability for forthcoming matches. Although ben stokes is suspended from england duty, it is understood they would be happy for him to play for a side in new zealand. So it is another Intriguing Development in this ongoing saga. Veteran forward Chris Harrington has been recalled by england for the saturday World Rugby League cup final against australia. He played in the first two matches including defeat to australia in the opening game. He takes a spot on the bench with james roby starting at hooker. Karen carney has withdrawn from the england squad for the qualifier against kazakhstan and colchester after injuring an ankle. The chelsea winger, cap 134 times, is on the sidelines. England have won the first two qualifiers. You can watch that match live on bbc two and the kick off is at five past seven. Wales play tonight also, away to bosnia herzegovina. Four main link manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contenderfor link manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contender for the link manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contenderfor the everton job. Former england manager. He had been the early candidate to replace Ronald Koeman, but withdrew after everton were slow to make an offer. They have lost five of the last seven games under caretaker manager David Unsworth so the search for a manager is really taking on some urgency. This is why you should never leave a football match until its actually over. Queens park rangers were reading brentford in the championship. You can see massive gaps in the crowd. Qpr pulled one back, and then this with 20 seconds to go. Luke freeman scoring an equaliser. Cue pandemonium and celebrations and picking up the ball again, wanting to get their winning goal, i think. Great reward for the fans who actually bothered to stay for the entire match. Thank you, jess. Six former british soldiers who were held in prison in india forfour years have been released. The so called chennai six were arrested on weapons charges. Their lawyers say they will have to remain in india a little while longer, before they can return home. Weve been following their story for some time on the programme now and can speak to the fiancee of one of the men billy irving whos been held in prison since october 2013. And Joanne Tomlinson who is the sister ofjohn armstrong. Great to speak to you by. I cant imagine how youre feeling but the smile gives some of it away. imagine how youre feeling but the smile gives some of it away. I am absolutely about this. When we got the verdict yesterday we did not dream for one second that he would actually be released within a few hours, really. We got the phone call about three hours ago and garyjust phoned me to say, i am out. about three hours ago and garyjust phoned me to say, i am out. Ijust could not believe it. Were you expecting him to call . could not believe it. Were you expecting him to call . I expected him to call as soon as he got out, but certainly not today. I thought he would maybe wait a week or two to get the news that he was actually out and dean signed out of prison and he is free, hes actually out of that prison for good, thats just the most phenomenal, phenomenal news i could ever have. Tell us exactly how that conversation went between you and billy. It was a private number that court. Weve had a lot of press calling this morning. I just presumed it was another phone call. And then it was his amazing voice on the end of the phone. He just said hello, and i screamed down the phone then he said, im out, andi the phone then he said, im out, and i said, i know, i know but william was at nursery, so he didnt speak to him just yet. He was just asking how everything went yesterday, if he knew when he would be flying home, which, at this point, we dont yet know, so just trying to figure out logistics, as well, of hal he will get somewhere to stay, if he can get clothes and money, so werejust to stay, if he can get clothes and money, so were just looking to stay, if he can get clothes and money, so werejust looking into sorting all that outjust now. Your mind must be spinning with excitement and trying to sort out logistics and goodness knows what. I wa nt to logistics and goodness knows what. I want to bring injoanne. She was beaming, listening to what you were saying. Have you managed to speak to your brother . Yes, he called a couple of hours ago. I have actually seena couple of hours ago. I have actually seen a picture on twitter from a reporter that is over in india of johnin reporter that is over in india of john ina reporter that is over in india of john in a car leaving the prison which is very exciting to see. It was a very which is very exciting to see. It was a very quick conversation. He spoke to my mum and dad, as well. Ive only got the end of the conversation, which was quite logistical. We were talking about where they were going to be staying, how he gets his belongings back which were being held by a friend in india, andjust which were being held by a friend in india, and just trying to discuss what is going to happen here and now, today. We didnt discuss anything about coming home. But im hoping, once he gets a good meal into him and a comfortable bed, we can have a proper conversation. Do you remember getting match reports from the british consulate and the embassy to sort out those logistics . We know it was a british consular staff who escorted them out of prison this morning and arranged for ca rs prison this morning and arranged for cars to collect them and take them to the deputy high commission. And i believe that they are assisting in sorting out on accommodation for the men which is also being assisted by the mission to seafarers a charity that has helped enormously over the last few years. They are very involved in this, they are on the ground in gni to help coordinate support for the men. Obviously they have been held in prison for two years. And ecstatic as we are now at them being released, there are going to be emotional issues around that and it will be difficult for them to adapt. And, as well, it is not the case of coming on a plane straight home, in which case they would be ecstatic. They are going to have to stay in india whilst the paperwork gets sorted. Thats quite difficult for them, because they have done that before in 2014, they were released and then had to stay in india. It is good to know that they have the support of our lawyers and hopefully the Foreign Office and the mission to seafarers as well. hopefully the Foreign Office and the mission to seafarers as well. I hope that they can speak to your respective fiance and brother when they are back at home in the uk. Thank you for speaking to us. Well be speaking to the father of lauri love the 32 year old whos wanted in the states on charges of computer hacking. Hes afraid his son will take his own life if he loses his appeal. A group of housing activists is targeting landlords across the uk, who it says are exploiting Vulnerable People with poor housing. Acorn is a union for tenants who rent privately. They say enough is enough and that renters should no longer have to put up with poor sub standard housing and treatment. They use direct action to tackle what they see as bad landlords. But are they encouraging people to stand up for their rights or taking the law into its own hands . We bought you andy smythes full report earlier. Heres a short extract. This is one of the founders of acorn. We felt there was a need for a Community Organisation that would represent local people on political issues, but without being tied to political parties. It has got members like the workers union, but acorn fights for private tenants rights. Theyll protest. Theyll go landlords houses. Theyll publicly shame them because of what they feel isa shame them because of what they feel is a housing crisis. Rise in rent, poor conditions, evictions, this kind of thing. Calum lived in his flat for two years. The arent is over £500 a month including electricity and water, but he says there has been a catalogue of problem. Boiler. Electric, front door. You have had no front door . The three basics. I have never had a front door since i have been here. The mould situation is probably not good for us. Thats the lovely black mould. If you look on the ceiling, right, where the mould is, look, is where the water is pooling, but not sitting on the joistss. His landlord says the door is fixed and he wants to repair the rest, but workmen are refusing to do it until calum cleans up. He contacted acorn who pressured the landlord over repairs. Today though, its a amina who needs help. She is a working mother of four who lives in this house. What are the biggest problems . The biggest problem is damp and the mice walking on the walls and the kitchen is the worst. You have mice in your kitchen . In the kitchen and they live in the sleep rooms. Tell me how much you pay for your house every month . I pay £850. Acorn are going out to the landlords home to deliver him a letter. Ask them to appoint qualified, independent damp specialists and contractors to fix other outstanding issues. We want it booked by monday. Amina has fought this for two years. Her friend as the same landlord, same problems. They say hes not here yet. The same landlord, same problems. They say hes not here yet. Can you come and take the letter for me . What does collective action mean . Does it mean taking the law into your own hands . It means acting together in support of a particular individual or with where people have got a individual or with where people have gota similar individual or with where people have got a similar problem, acting together to solve it. It doesnt mean breaking the law. Do you want to speak to the police . Not particularly, no. Aminas landlord says almost all his tenants are happy. While he and other landlords may agree with acorns point, it is the way the group makes it that they have an issue with. Lets talk to richard blanco. Hes a landlord and a member of the National Landlords association. He has some concerns over the tactics used by acorn. Maryam wright is 26 and has only ever lived in privately rented houses, often she says in poor conditions. Shes become a member of acorn in sheffield. Stuart melvin is one of the few paid employees of acorn and hes based in bristol. Thank you for speaking to us. Richard, i want to talk to you, you we re richard, i want to talk to you, you were watching the film intently there. Do you understand some of the frustrations of tenants . there. Do you understand some of the frustrations of tenants . I am appalled to see those poor conditions. Landlords need to maintain their asset and they need to provide a good home for tenants and the vast majority do, it is a small minority that allow their properties to get into that kind of condition. I support the fact that acorn st acting on behalf of tenants to get the problems resolved. Local authorities, of course, have the legitimate powers to bring enforcement action and deal with landlords to awho allow their properties to get into that condition. It is important that acorn work alongside the local authority. I want to bring mariam in. Youre 26 and always lived in print rented accommodation. Give us a sense of some of the worst insta nces a sense of some of the worst instances you have had and the worst housing you have had . So, i know richard said that it is a small minority of landlords who dont adhere to what we would say homes that would be fit for human habitation. I rented all my life and ican habitation. I rented all my life and i can say the honest truth is that it has been an overwhelmingly negative experience. We have lived in houses where, you saw some of the clips, where the houses have got mould. The lady that said had mice. These are typical standards of housing that available for families. So notjust housing that available for families. So not just young housing that available for families. So notjust young individuals like myself, but growing up, those are the kind of houses that i lived in. We we re the kind of houses that i lived in. We were subject to harassment from landlords. Illegal evictions, perfectly legal evictions as well also. These sort of experiences, that lady there, as she said earlier in the clip, she pays £850 for that house. Would you say richard that £850, you know, is perfectly reasonable to live in a house where you have mice and damp . No, i wouldnt, of course, not, no. I think it should be resolved. I certainly wouldnt let a property like that to a tenant. However, thats the norm. This is the norm thats the norm. This is the norm that faces families. So it is quite unusual for me growing up. A lot of my friends did not live in housing like that. They were fortunate to have families who could afford to buy and get on the property ladder. Unfortunately, my family were not able to do so and they were subject, they were vulnerable, even though they were vulnerable, even though they were vulnerable, even though they were hard working and earning wages which should be of living standard, but unfortunately, especially now where rents are rising ever more, these are the sort of standards that we are facing. Yes, i would certainly say, you know, to any landlords watching this programme who have Properties Like that in a poor condition, what they are is poor business people. They are is poor business people. They are doing a disservice to their te na nts are doing a disservice to their tenants and they need to get their heads around the standards required and need to join heads around the standards required and need tojoin a Landlord Association like the National Landlords association and run a Better Business and provide a better product for their tenants. Tenants will be happier and stay longer. 0ver will be happier and stay longer. Over 80 of tenants say they are happy with their private rented accommodation. So, buti happy with their private rented accommodation. So, but i am aware. Our voices are not heard. So, for this reason, we need organisations like acorn because its time that we got off the sofa, no more sofa politics, it is time people who rent, dont be ashamed, you know, i was rent, dont be ashamed, you know, i was ashamed growing up. I dont like to think about the experiences that i had as to think about the experiences that ihad asa to think about the experiences that i had as a child. It was embarrassing having friends coming over and you know the state of our homes. This was no fault of moo parents. The landlords would fail to ta ke parents. The landlords would fail to take the proper action to fix broken boilers. Sometimes we would go without heating for months. We would boil the kettle for baths. This is the 215t century. It is time renting was the 215t century. It is time renting was brought in line with the 215t century. Lets bring in stewart. 1 wa nt to century. Lets bring in stewart. 1 want to get his prospective on this. Asi want to get his prospective on this. As i said in the introduction, he is one of the few paid employees of acorn based in bristol. 1 think few people watching this would disagree that the landlords who rent out filthy, mouldy, smelly, Horrible Properties shouldnt be held to account, but are you the people to do it . Shouldnt this be done through the council . do it . Shouldnt this be done through the council . 1 agree it should be done through the council. We have got a situation nationally where the regulations arent tight enough and they are not enforced well enough. Connells are facing constricted budget and austerity. So often what we are actually doing is representing our members and highlighting and working in partnership with the local authority to highlight the worst landlords in the areas and then also holding the local authority to account and expecting them to carry out then forcement work. We spoke to a landlord who in the past has been subject to some of the direct action from one of acorns groups and they told us they felt going round to their house was intimidating as they had a good reputation in the city where they operate. So, is it fair to turn up on the doorstep of a landlord and harass them . Is it fair for a tenant to be harassed. Is it fairfora tenant to for a tenant to be harassed. Is it fair for a tenant to call their landlord and say i need this repair fixing and be ignored . Is that fair . Where are the resources where if you have a problem with your landlord, who do you turn to . Because thats the question i have faced. Two wrongs dont make a right. Wouldnt it be better to work with them . The balance of power. Isnt it a danger you get on such a bad relationship with your landlord, it coo colead to an eviction which is worse for the tenant . We have been dealing with that landlord for over two years and the local authority have been dealing with that landlord for two years. They are refusing to work, not only with us, but with the local authority and they are refusing to live up to the standards. In erms it of evictions, we are campaigning to get rid of the section 21 which allows the easy evictions. Your programme has cove red evictions. Your programme has covered the homelessness and the rise of homelessness thats caused by evictions in the private rented sector and again it is the same landlords that are kicking people out for either asserting their rights or because the landlords want to raise the rent. Renting is vulnerable. We are talking about homes. These are places that when you finish work, when you finish school, you come home to, to these issues. That youre constantly living with them. We are talking about peoples lives here. Their living standards. We are talking about homes and you know, often your landlords, they dont want to work with you or listen, the amount of times a landlord has given me a reason as to why they were not fix something or why it is going to take two or three weeks for a boiler to be fixed. These are homes. Homes for people. People like me, who earn a good living and deserve, we deserve better, the renting community deserve better. We are not getting it. deserve better. We are not getting it. I understand your frustration with those kinds of landlords that are behaving badly. The government is bringing in are you lations. Therele be a redress scheme. The local authorities are having powers. Local authorities dont have the resources, they may have the powers, but dont have the resources, cuts meant cuts to environmentalal officers. The resources arent there even if the powers are. It is true. Sometimes te na nts powers are. It is true. Sometimes tenants behave badly as well. So, you know, ithink tenants behave badly as well. So, you know, i think there is lots of scope for landlords and tenants to Work Together on some of these problems and the important point here is that, you know, a big part of being a landlord is communicating well with your tenant and having a Good Relationship with them and anything we can do to encourage landlords to do that is good work. Im glad to hear richard say that. One of the problems we have nationally is the legislation is not being enforced. We have to understand the regulation is being brought in as a result of the increasing tenant activism across the country, organisations like acorn and our allies. Richard, do you think there could be a time when the Landlords Association could work alongside acorn to reduce the heat out of this and actually get better homes for the likes of mariam, but ina homes for the likes of mariam, but in a less confrontational way . We have worked with acorn in bristol to develop a standard for housing in that area. Im keen to work with acorn and any other tenants organisations like that to improve standards in the private rented sector. We have a lot in common. 1 dont want the bad landlords to get away with it. I want them to be brought to task by lortsz and there isa brought to task by lortsz and there is a problem that local authorities dont have enough resources. Is a problem that local authorities dont have enough resources. Thank you all for speaking to us today. Thank you for coming in, richard. Some pictures of pope francis who is visiting myanmar. We will bring you more on this before 11am. He also met the countrys military leaders earlier on as well. Now, let me bring you this which is just reaching us as well. The ex Coronation Star Bruno Langley who is 34, pleaded guilty at manchester imagine straitsz court to sexually assaulting two women at a Manchester Music venue on 1st october. That news just reaching us that the ex coronation street star Bruno Langley has pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting two women at a Manchester Music venue on 1st october. Is there are enough support for new mums suffering with Mental Health issues . We will speak to three mothers who suffered with depression and anxiety and find out what they need what they think needs to change. Time for the latest news now with ritual. Rachel. New measures are to be introduced to reduce the number of deaths and serious injuries during childbirth in england. For the first time, parents of Stillborn Babies are to be routinely offered an independent investigation into what went wrong. The uk has already reduced the mortality rate for babies but still lags behind many other European Countries. More details of prince harry and Meghan Markles wedding are expected to be announced today. The archbishop of canterbury has indicated the couple will have a church wedding, saying the pair had chosen to make their vows to god in a religious ceremony. The couple announced their engagement yesterday. The main airport on the indonesian island of bali has been closed for a second day amid concerns of an imminent volcanic eruption. Massive plumes of smoke and ash have been spewing out of mount agung over the past few days. Up to 100,000 people have been ordered to evacuate the vicinity. Hundreds of flights were cancelled and thousands of travellers were stranded after the airport was initially closed on monday. Heres some sport now withjess. Some headlines this morning. England all rounder ben stokes could be playing cricket in new zealand within the next few days after talks within the next few days after talks with club side, canterbury. There was speculation on social media he was speculation on social media he was on his way to join the ashes squad, but the ecb said that is not the case and he is visiting family in new zealand. Former england manager sam alla rdyce is in new zealand. Former england manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contenderfor manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contender for the everton manager Sam Allardyce is the leading contenderfor the evertonjob. He was a candidate to take over from Ronald Koeman early on but he withdrew after everton were slow to make an offer. Everton have lost five of their last seven games so the search is really becoming urgent. Karen carney has withdrawn from the english squad for the world cup qualifier against kazakhstan in colchester after injuring an ankle. England have won their first two qualifiers. Veteran forward Chris Harrington has been recalled for england for saturdays Rugby League World cup final against australia. He played in the first two matches and returns to the bench with james roby starting at hooker. That is all the sport for now. The family of alleged computer hacker lauri love have told this programme they fear he would take his own life if sent to the us to face charges. The 32 year old will be at the high court later this week to appeal an order signed by the home secretary extraditing him to the United States. Hes accused of hacking into agencies including the federal reserve, nasa and the us army. His supporters say if lauri love, who has aspergers syndrome, is convicted he could face a 99 year sentence for a crime that british authorities investigated and decided not to charge him for. This was lauri speaking last year to victoria. The legal experts from the United States have calculated that i could be facing up to 99 years if there are three trials and the charges are presented in a certain way. The department ofjustice then makes an offer where theyll present different charges and theyll recommend a lower sentence, and the problem is 19 out of 20 people take this offer. I think that maybe demonstrates that theres some problems with that system. Why . Because if 19 out of 20 people never have a trial, im not sure if thats really due process, im not sure if its really justice. Can you get your head round this figure of 99 years . Its quite absurd. I mean, any more than a few decades, you dont really see an end to it, and because theres very poor conditions in us prisons, people with Mental Health difficulties, i think that i would be at risk of dying in an unfortunate way. Lauris father alexander joins us now. Also on the line from texas is barrett brown, a journalist who spent more than three years in prison for computer hacking. He was released a year ago this week. Thank you for coming in to speak to us. First, tell us why you think lauri should be tried in the uk rather than being extradited to the us . Basically because my son has told me on more than one occasion he has no intention of going to america. I said what happens if i cannot stop the process, and he said, i will take my life so it is a choice between being tried here or killing himself. And i can tell you with some authority of someone is determined to kill themselves they will achieve that goal and nothing you could do could ever stop that. Soi you could do could ever stop that. So i believe that lauri should be tried here. We are not trying to avoid facing the music, wejust tried here. We are not trying to avoid facing the music, we just want avoid facing the music, we just want a british band to play the music and four lauri to go through due process. We have very good courts who are more than able to prosecute lauri. Can you understand why the us authorities want him tried in the us . If there was a computer hacker as we saw against the nhs, people would want to see justice served in this country. Doesnt the us have the right to do that, also . The americans apparently have the right to do whatever they like. And they are in sensing to oppose a Pax Americana on the world. The only person who has never been indicted on computer hacking. Consistently over the last few years we have a lwa ys over the last few years we have always prosecuted in this country. If there is a special relationship between here and america, if they are our closest ally, they should trust us to have the competence to actually deal with this matter on their behalf. 1 want to bring in barrett to speak to us. Barrett, it is almost a year to the day since you were released from prison for hacking in the us. Give is a sense of what conditions were like inside prison, because this is the real concern for lauri, should he be extradited to the us. The thing about the us justice extradited to the us. The thing about the usjustice system and prison system is that it is very easy for the british to think of it as relatively civilised with benevolence and although we drive some structure from england, this is an evolving system, im speaking from experience and repeating what others have said. Newspapers, everyone agrees that the prison syste m everyone agrees that the prison system is devoid of due process. That something so while i was inside. What were conditions like for you inside . Lauri inside. What were conditions like foryou inside . Lauri like me inside. What were conditions like for you inside . Lauri like me and everyone else will be subject to a lack of due process for the most part. Whatever particular difficulties arise and these will arise for anyone, much less someone who has a physical or Mental Health problem, he will find that he is not able to challenge those conditions in the courts. So for instance, if you are having a retaliation issue contrary to the prison 5 own rules you will be given a form and a prison in concert with the regional and National Authorities will stymie that process, they will violate it over and over that process, they will violate it overand overagain that process, they will violate it over and over again knowing full well that they can. There are any numberof well that they can. There are any number of things that can go wrong in particular for someone who is seen as a whistle blower, seen as an activist, someone who goes after the secrets of governments and challenges them. Those people suffer particular retaliation. I suffered six months total in over six months without the proper documentation and protocols, all this in retaliation for my work as a columnist. Let me bring alexander back in. We heard victoria when she was talking to lauri about this 99 year sentence. If there was a plea bargain that could go down to between 2 10 years. Some people suggesting, why doesnt he just some people suggesting, why doesnt hejust agree some people suggesting, why doesnt he just agree that . Do realise, with respect, how absurd that is, that is like the authorities saying we will lock you up and 99 years if you try to contest our evidence against you, or if you say we will only have two yea rs. Or if you say we will only have two years. That is notjustice, that is threatening. That is extracting some sort of penalty by threatening somebody do something awful. That is not the way. In this country, the dna of ourjustice system is predicated on the idea of an appropriate punishment for particular crime. We dont work on the basis of this big massive sentence, then people. Committing crime. The american system isnt like that. It believes in a punitive justice, a kind of revenge on certain people. And it would appear that this hacking thing is particularly worrying, because when 9 11 took place, and illustration, there were two federal jurisdictions, new york and virginia, where things took place. The American Government announced that if there was ever a trial it will only be in new york. The americans have been vindictive. They wa nt to americans have been vindictive. They want to put my son on trial in three separate states because three separate states because three separate computer servers were involved, and that is observed. Thank you both for keeping for coming in to speak to us today. We are going to cost a mere man now. Cross to myanmar now. Hes going to meet Aung San Suu Kyi to discuss the plight of rainier muslims during his talks. Next this morning more than a third of mums have experienced Mental Health issues like postpartum depression, acute stress, and severe anxiety in the wake of giving birth. Thats according to an Online Survey by radio 5live and yougov which also found more than two thirds of those have sought professional help. But is there enough support support for mums experiencing problems . We can talk now to camilla woolgar a mum of two who suffered from anxiety and post natal depression, Sally Bunkham also a mum of two, whos post natal depression got so bad she was self harming, and Emily Tredget a mum of one whose depression started soon after birth. Thank you all for coming in to talk to us. First of all, i dont know how to each of you are, so i will just look nicely at you and you can share your stories. Camilla. Just look nicely at you and you can share yourstories. Camilla. Good just look nicely at you and you can share your stories. Camilla. Good to meet you. You started getting anxious, is that the best way to describe it, during your second pregnancy . After i had my describe it, during your second pregnancy . Afterl had my second son, i started feeling a sort of ill will and becoming anxious and that, over time, got worse. And just acknowledging those feelings, i expected to be a happy mum and everything to be perfect. And when my son was about two years old, i really developed a depression and severe anxiety. Emily . Your experience. You had the symptoms that many ex dash mac that many People Associated with postnatal depression, is that right . People Associated with postnatal depression, is that right . I had anxiety whilst i was pregnant but i didnt realise at the time, i had depression, on and off for the best pa rt of depression, on and off for the best part of two years of my sons life. I had chronic insomnia. I was sleeping when are night, even though he slept sleeping when are night, even though he sle pt really, sleeping when are night, even though he slept really, really well. Obviously it was very difficult to work life out when youre having that little sleep. I went from being an extroverted, confident, career driven woman to a mother who was scared to go out and see friends, even have them round for coffee, and i found it really tough. Stay with us, we adjusting to break into this conversation, because bob francis, of course is visiting me and mah. He is meeting the de facto leader, Aung San Suu Kyi the pope is visiting myanmar. Lets have a listen into what she has to say. A compassionate and generous people, always ready to hold out a helping hand to those in need. People strong and skilled and holy spirit. Your holiness, the children of your church in this country are also the children of myanmar, loved and cherished. We thank them, as we thank u, for praying for our nation and all the peoples of the world. The road ahead is long but we will walk it with confidence, trusting in the power of peace, love and joy. Confidence, trusting in the power of peace, love andjoy. I confidence, trusting in the power of peace, love and joy. I thank you all. Applause thank you, excellencies. Thank you, excellencies. It is with great honour that we invite his holiness pope prices to deliver a message of peace. holiness pope prices to deliver a message of peace. Pope francis. This is pope francis who is visiting myanmar. We have heard from Aung San Suu Kyi, the de facto leader of the country. She has made an address. Now we can listen to pope francis. So that is pope francis making an address in myanmar. We were expecting an english translation, but it is clearly apparent were not going to get that. Of course, many people watching that situation in myanmar because, of course, there has been a huge crisis with Rohingya Muslims fleeing from myanmar and heading to bangladesh. Many people asking whether he is going to raise that issue with Aung San Suu Kyi, of course, who won the Nobel Peace Prize. Many people unhappy that she hasnt acted accordingly to stop that crisis and stop the per cushion of so many Rohingya Muslims. A couple of guests have come in to join us in the studio here to talk about this trip by pope francis. We can speak now to baroness manzila pola uddin, the uks first female muslim peer, who returned from seeing the refugee camps in bangladesh two weeks ago. And mark farmaner, has met Aung San Suu Kyi twice and is part of Burma Campaign uk. Mark, i want to raise with you if i may the loaded term of rohingya for many people who are inside myanmar. People who have read about pope francis visit will know the senior catholic cleric in the country urged him not to use that term. Can you explain why it is such a loaded term in myanmar . People in burma reject the rohingyas as belonging in the country. It is a country with many ethnicities and the government has a list of officially recognised ethnic people from the country which the rohingya are not on. So, they are arguing that the rohingya dont belong in the country. They are Illegal Immigrants from bangladesh and so they wont accept them as an ethnic group so the use of the word rohingya in burma, where there are many ethnic groups, some of them have been fighting for their rights as well, is a very loaded term for them. It means, they feel that if they accept the rohingya as an ethnic group, they are accepting that they have a right to be in the country. Many of us have watched the awful pictures of Rohingya Muslims fleeing into bangladesh, but for you, to witness it first hand must have been something entirely different. I know that we can have a look at some of what you witnessed and what you saw on your visit. Oh, god, what has happened to humanity . Ijust i just feel really disgusted. Hundreds of thousands of people are negotiating this made up steps. They are very extremely vulnerable in many cases. You can see just for a bag of rice or one of the bamboo sticks that they had to pick up. Just so that they can make something of a shelter. And, actually, ijust feel utterly gutted that we can do something about this in this century for humanity, because there is no humanity left in this place. And there are a surprising order, in the way that people are behaving. I dont know whether it is because they know that people live here, or they have been told to behave, its. Its simply that theyve been through such brutality that they find this to be a heaven in some meaningless way. Which is making more sense to them now than where they have come from and what they have experienced. It is the Bangladeshi Navy thats distributing, well, thats what it says there. Unbelievable. Extraordinary. unbelievable. Extraordinary. Ican tell you, that it is even difficult for you to watch that back now . Yes, it is. I recorded that for my children. I had to stop as you could see, after a while, i became quite emotional. I think that there has been excellent coverage from both the bbc, channel 4, and sky now and so people have been on the ground as we have been on the ground and i think what is happening is beyond human endurance and the Bangladesh Government is to be commended, of course, but they cannot do this alone. We were there with the unchr, we had three members of parliament including members of the house of lords and we were staggered at whats required to be done. So i think, you know, one, we have a meeting coming up tomorrow. We have a debrief and i hope that what our visit will mean is we are very alert. There is a debate this afternoon in Westminster Hall and were just calling for International Community to continue its commitment to ensuring that burma is made accountable for the hundreds of thousands of women who have been raped. I mean in britain, we have said again and again, you know, william hague, has been, has provided enormous amount of leadership saying we will prevent all sexual violence, rape and conflict. Yes, its right in front of us and i hope his holiness the pope will understand the magnitude of Aung San Suu Kyis come plesity to this. As a woman of intellect i do not understand having witnessed what i witnessed, how she has remained utterly silent and her leadership is culpable and i think the International Community needs to hold her and burma accountable. The burmese army accountable. I think we can on one hand in britain say we do not, we want to promote peace, we wa nt to not, we want to promote peace, we want to do Good Governance and then at the same time, allow so called people that we have been friends with absolutely arbitrary power to do what they will with human beings. They are human beings. Let me read this to you, although we didnt hear the popes speech in english, we have got a few lines coming through on translation. Pope francis urged healing of wounds in myanmar saying people continue to suffer from conflict and hostilities. He also says myanmar reconciliation must include a commitment to justice and respect for human rights. Mark, do you think that goes far enough . M doesnt go far enough. The big issue has been whether he use the word rohingya when he is there. Thats a sign of how bad things are. We are not talking about serious changes in the law that Aung San Suu Kyi has ke pt the law that Aung San Suu Kyi has kept in place, the repressive laws against the rohingya, we are not talking about accountability for the military, we are talking about whether the word rohingya should be used and if he doesnt use that, that will encourage the nationalists, the racists and the people who are trying to persecute the rohingya as a victory. We should be talking about making sure that they have full Citizens Rights because if they do not, there is no possibility they will be able to return to their country of birth. think expectations were high for the popes visit and he could never meet the expectations. What we will need to see really is notjust the expectations. What we will need to see really is not just the the expectations. What we will need to see really is notjust the pope has pone out, the dal ma llama. We need to see the International Community coming in with stronger measures, referring this situation to the International Criminal court and reviewing our relationship with burma. Aung san suu kyi doesnt control the military. She cant stop their attacks, but she doesnt have to defend and deny these things are taking place and we dont have to support her government if she is going to carry on with those policies. 1 am with you 100 . Thank policies. 1 am with you 10096. Thank you for speaking to us. Lets return to the conversation about mothers experiencing Mental Health problems shortly after childbirth. Thank you for waiting patiently while we were talking about there about what the pope had to say on his visit to myanmar. Emily, you we re his visit to myanmar. Emily, you were talking about the problems you had with postnatal interesting. What was interesting sally, you almost didnt recognise your postnatal depression . The symptoms, i had, i didnt associate with the condition at all. I thought postnatal depression was about feeling sad in hospital, not bonding with your baby. So when i had symptoms like camilla, later on, ididnt recognise them. I was incredibly angry, incredibly frustrated, i didnt have an ability to deal with daily chores and it was brought on by my daughters undiagnosed medical condition. She was upset and crying day and night by almost drove me mad and again it was sleep deprivation that did it and i was so focussed on my babies that i wasnt thinking about me either, when my husband sat me down and said enough is enough, you have got to go to the gp. It was one of the best things and that really helped my road to recovery. Im interested to hear you say that your husband sat you down. As emily said, you are so sleep deprived and your hormones are over the place. A lot of us think this is the way it is, we have got to battle through, would you agree with that, camilla yes, i think as a mother or even as a dad, you set yourself certain expectations. You paint a picture of what you would like it to be like. What you would like it to be like and you try and live up to those expectations and if they are not met, well for myself, i wasjust ke pt met, well for myself, i wasjust kept going and a bit like you, i didnt want to acknowledge the feelings i had. Does that feel like failure . If you acknowledge that . Yes, idid. Failure . If you acknowledge that . Yes, i did. Clearly it is not failure . If you acknowledge that . Yes, i did. Clearly it is not i felt that mentally i should be Strong Enough to overcome the feelings and not give into it. Healthiest thing would be to take time, process the feelings and just carry on and acce pt feelings and just carry on and accept those feelings. feelings and just carry on and accept those feelings. I can see emily nodding in the background. The important thing is take time. You dont have time when you have a baby, emily, thats the problem . Thats the problem. You think that you are the only one and you cant look after yourself. Everyone will think you are awful if you are not feeling or acting like you should. I really encourage everyone to talk about it. The statistics i heard was one in five, you are saying a third of people are going through it. As soon as i heard lots of other people we re soon as i heard lots of other people were going through it as well, i felt so much better and so many of my friends talked to me about it because now i do talk openly about it with my mummy links business and you just need to know that youre not alone. You can get through it u but you do need to look after yourself and your baby. If someone is watching and thinking they are lonely and frightened, and this resonates with them . For me it was my gp. Just resonates with them . For me it was just going resonates with them . For me it was my gp. Just going to resonates with them . For me it was my gp. Just going to my gp was fantastic, but there is some excellent organisations out there. There is people like the pandas foundation. Even if you talk to your husband. Yes. Listen, thank you for coming in. Thank you for your patience while we waited to hear what the pope had to say. Bbc newsroom live is coming up. Thank you for your company today. Have a great day. Victoria is back in the chair tomorrow. Good morning. It was cold yesterday, but actually as we go through this week it will turn colder still. Temperatures really taking a tumble. Well below the average for the time of year, but with a northerly wind and the cold aircoming in, but with a northerly wind and the cold air coming in, it does give us blue skies and sunshine at the moment. So i a cross many parts of the uk, it is western coasts of wales, South West England and eastern coasts of england and the north east of scotland where we will see showers through today. Those will turn wintry. Temperatures on the thermometer five to six celsius. Factor in the wind and it will feel chilly. Temperatures more like one to four celsius. Through this evening and tonight, watch out for ice across the north of scotland. Further wintry showers here and more showers coming down the eastern side of england. Those could be wintry as well. Further west, dry of england. Those could be wintry as well. Furtherwest, dry with of england. Those could be wintry as well. Further west, dry with clear spells. Ap touch of frost in places, but a cold start to wednesday morning. Further showers affecting northern and eastern areas. A few showers towards pembrokeshire and cornwall, dry with sunshine, but feeling cold. This is bbc news, and these are the top stories developing at 11 a pledge to cut the number of deaths and serious injuries during childbirth. Parents will be offered an independent investigation into what went wrong. Pope francis is meeting the leader of myanmar, Aung San Suu Kyi, and hes expected to highlight the plight of the persecuted rohingya minority. More details about prince harry and Meghan Markles wedding are expected to be revealed. Former coronation street star Bruno Langley pleads guilty to sexually assaulting two women at a Manchester Music venue. Six former british soldiers held in prison in india forfour years have been released. Also fears a volcano on the indonesian island of bali may blow its top