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Spoons and they said, tommy, should we put photos of the characters so it looks like they live here . He said, dont worry, if they are looking at the spoons they are looking at the spoons they are looking at the wrong thing. 14 years later, whenever the spoons come up, people yell spoons in the theatre and throw plastic spoons. It could be real knives and forks which would be real knives and forks which would be more dangerous. We would like photos of you with your brothers, because we have james and dave with us. Because we have james and dave with us. Tell us what you do together, send us a photo and we will show you at the end of the show. Ina in a moment well be meeting a lurcher called red who is looking for a home. He was abandoned by hare coursers, criminals who use dogs to hunt im hoping that the next leadership, even during the transition, must set ina new even during the transition, must set in a new trajectory were people are respected and that the rule of law is restored. My hope and wish is that we are able to craft a transitional framework for the next elections which will put in place theissue elections which will put in place the issue of reforms, the issue of free and Fair Elections as per the constitution. We will look back to this day with a hearty degree of nostalgia because its something that they have been wishing for the last five years but has been very difficult to achieve because of the machinery that has been put to prevent it. So, like in any new birth, i think the celebration represents a new feeling, and i think it will go down like in 1980, when we got our independence as a very memorable occasion. And frankly astounded. This third veto in the month clearly exposes, if it wasnt already obvious, russias determination to protect the syrian ally, whatever the harm that causes. To the ban on the use of chemical weapons to the Wider International System of rules to russias own reputation. A potentially elongated. My colleague, the bbc africa editor, fergal keane, was in the chamber when the announcement was made. Were here, right at the moment that theyve heard that Robert Mugabe has resigned from the presidency, and you can hear it cheering from zanu pf mps, from Opposition Mps and from members of the public whove come here to witness whats happening. They didnt expect it and thought that this could be a potentially elongated process of impeachment, but it hasnt happened. Hes gone, its over. Scenes of wild celebration inaudible after 37 years and a promising start, its an embarrassing end for one of africas last inaudible. This is a good day for zimbabwe, a new era for our nation. 37 years with one president , it doesnt make any sense. Im very happy. I dont have anything to say, but im happy with this. Mugabe was. I dont have any words to say now. There was an air of expectation earlier. Parliament had resolved that, if he wouldnt resign, he would be impeached. This is a peoples project, we are a peoples party. We believe in peoples resolutions. And let it go. And what if it fails . It will never fail. The people have neverfailed. Waiting in the wings now is Emmerson Mnangagwa, a long Time Assistant and Vice President whom Robert Mugabe sacked just last week. The weight of the expectation is now on him to fix this broken country. For now, zimbabweans are savouring the moment they thought would never come. Mr mugabe is no longer the president of zimbabwe. Lets go straight over to harare now, where the bbcs ben brown is. What is the atmosphere bike on the streets of harare . It is an amazing atmosphere and has been ever since the news came out that Robert Mugabe and finally resigned. The news was read out in parliamentjust over there behind me were all these people have been celebrating ever since and because the impeachment process had started, most people were expecting that impeachment to just continue, they did not know how long it would take, but in the end, on the first day of the impeachment process , on the first day of the impeachment process, Robert Mugabe just decided to resign and people have been dancing on the streets for the last few hours, blaring their car horns and partying. It will be a party that will go on all night. Lets talk to one person here. What does this mean to you, the fact that Robert Mugabe, after 37 years, has resigned . It is a beginning. I am so happy. We are all so overwhelmed. We never thought this would happen after 37 years. On saturday, we came out, and we want to thank the army general for making saturday a success general for making saturday a success for us all to be out. It has been hard for the zimbabweans. We are tired of these Political Parties of zanu pf. People are suffering in the streets. Everything was brutal. We we re the streets. Everything was brutal. We were tired of the government of zanu pf are now we want something new, we want a different government. I hope this resignation has brought a big change in the country. We graduates but we not working. We we re graduates but we not working. We were going to work but they stopped us were going to work but they stopped us going to work. They did not even pay us. That isjust a flavour of the celebrations that there are in the celebrations that there are in the people here who have been demonstrating in front of parliament whether resignation was announced. They will be partying. Goodbye, mugabe, is the message. Very lively streets of harare the night. And joining us now is the us senator, chris coons, who in congress sits on the Foreign Relations africa subcommittee. We spoke to you before mugabe fell. Incredibly happy voices on the streets of harare tonight. Iq optimistic about the future of the country now . This is a historic moment for the people of zimbabwe. The 37 years, Robert Mugabe has been a president who became a dictator. The economy is in a shambles, there have been violations of human rights and ways in which democracy has been thwarted since the 2008 election that mugabe lost but somehow manoeuvred to be able to renege as president. I am manoeuvred to be able to renege as president. Lam hopeful there manoeuvred to be able to renege as president. I am hopeful there will bea president. I am hopeful there will be a peaceful transition of power. Mugabe has resigned and has called for peaceful transition, but this will be up to the people of zimbabwe, regional leaders from the african union, to insist on an inclusive and open process. My hopes are that the transition will respect rule of law and lead to an open and inclusive election in which there will be a democratic process to choose the future leadership of zimbabwe reform the economy and repair the health of the country. We have been here before with other African Leaders who have been proposed. The lesson is there is a very short window of the International Community to get in there and enact reform and get the economy working again. What could the United States do to help zimbabwe . The United States imposed a fairly strong sanction against zimbabwe many years ago against both Robert Mugabe and some of his inner circle of advisers as well as impacting the country as a whole. The United States continues to provide humanitarian relief because of the famine, drought, throughout zimbabwe, but we do not provide any direct government to government assistance. If the new government of zimbabwe presents itself as being more transparent and open to reform, the United States could consider lifting some or all of those sanctions. We could be a Strong Partner with zimbabwe that the future development. Along with our ally the United Kingdom and others, we ally the United Kingdom and others, we could create an environment to improve zimba bwes economy we could create an environment to improve zimbabwes economy as long as there is respect for human rights and transparency and democracy that has been lacking for the last 37 yea rs. Has been lacking for the last 37 years. But you will also know there will be a scramble for control in the era of the new government, whatever shape that government is. China has been very good partnerfor zimbabwe in recent years. It is likely that the west will try to move him and perhaps regain some control had. My hope is that the transition will be one that will allow for more openness. It seems likely that Emmerson Mnangagwa will be sworn in as the new president and that morgan tsvangirai, the Opposition Leader, or play some role. It is my hope that these gentlemen and others will view the transition as an opportunity to establish new standards for conduct of rule of law and openness to engage with the west and in particular the United States and the uk. We are seeing live pictures coming in from uk. We are seeing live pictures coming infrom harare uk. We are seeing live pictures coming in from harare as you are speaking of soldiers on the top of ta nks speaking of soldiers on the top of tanks being embraced by the people on the streets of harare. They had a tricky relationship with the military but today at least they feel very excited. I want to pick up on this balance of power in africa with the chinese. Are you concerned that china steps in, it has clout in what is an important Southern African country at a time when america is withdrawing its influence around the world . America is withdrawing its influence around the world . I am very concerned about the lack of an active forward leading presents by the United States. The last american delegation to visit zimbabwe was led by my friend. He and i and two other senators and congressmen have visited Southern Africa in february 2016, we met with Robert Mugabe, and extremely troubling meeting, and i expressed concerns. I think that china has a significant foothold in zimbabwe. They trained many of the liberation struggle leaders and have a strong economic presence. China and the United States have a different approach to engagement in africa. They do not advocate for democracy, free press on human rights and are more interested in economic relationships. It is time for china to stand up for International Standards in terms of how we conduct business across africa and for the people of countries like zimbabwe to have a voice in the future of the nation. One of the few zimbabwean politicians who dared to challenge mugabe, despite the violence and the murder of his supporters, was morgan tsvangirai, leader of the opposition mdc. This week, he returned to the country from south africa, where he has been receiving treatment for colon cancer. This was his reaction to the news. Im hoping that the next leadership, even during the transition, must set in a new trajectory where people are respected and that the rule of law is restored. My hope and wish is that we are able to craft a transitional framework for the next elections which will put in place the issue of reforms, the issue of free and Fair Elections as per the constitution. We will look back to this day with a hearty degree of nostalgia because its something that they have been wishing for the last five years but has been very difficult to achieve because of the machinery that has been put to prevent it. So, like in any new birth, i think the celebration represents a new feeling, and i think it will go down like in 1980, when we got our independence as a very memorable occasion. Alex magaisa is the former adviser to morgan tsvangirai, the mdc Opposition Leader. Hes been with us since the news broke. I went to see him 15 years ago and the time he had been beaten, he was ona the time he had been beaten, he was on a charge of trying to assassinate Robert Mugabe. It is sad actually, at this point when the country is rejoicing, to see him in poor health ata time rejoicing, to see him in poor health at a time when he could have a big role to play. Absolutely. He has been a courageous fighter. He has been a courageous fighter. He has been a courageous fighter. He has been a hero for the people of zimbabwe for even the war veterans in zimbabwe who pay tribute to him, he is one of the few people who stood up against mugabe to take a leading role. But we must not forget that people have died trying to get rid of mugabe, people who lost limbs and property. On this day, while people celebrate, it is important to remember that there are families and people who have lost loved ones as a result of this person who has left office after so much pressure. You we re office after so much pressure. You were listening to the senator when he was talking. It said the International Community will have to play a role in putting zimbabwe back on its feet. Looking at the statistics, 95 Unemployment Rate in the country. Foreign reserves are about to run out. There is a 100 limit on withdrawals. The country is in ruin the economy is one of the major casualties of this regime. Mr mugabe may have had an economics degree, but he had no clue how to run an economy. Degree, but he had no clue how to run an economy. People talk about Human Rights Violations and discrimination and recriminations we saw, the people are concerned about the economy. These are the huge challenges that zimbabwe faces. It is important for the International Community. We look everybody. I do not think it is a route we should ta ke not think it is a route we should take with us. In the past, we had the selective approach when mr mugabe was saying, i look east and he slams the west. It is important to understand that it is about the interests of zi m ba bwe. To understand that it is about the interests of zimbabwe. Thankfully, zimbabwe is a country that a lot of people do care for, do look to something that can be developed and become a beacon, notjust for africa, both of the world. There is so much potential. It is a country thatis so much potential. It is a country that is rich in resources and education levels. I am just wondering whether alex thinks that whoever takes over can implement reforms and implement them fast because to capitalise on this moment, presumably those reforms had come moment, presumably those reforms had co m e pretty moment, presumably those reforms had come pretty quickly . There is so much goodwill. We are hearing from the International Community. I believe that whoever will take over, andi believe that whoever will take over, and i think we know it is morgan tsvangirai, he has to show leadership. That will include taking an inconclusive and transparent approach. We saw people demonstrating and exercising their rights on saturday. That should not bea rights on saturday. That should not be a one day affair, that should be the new culture for zimbabwe embraces. We hope he will show that leadership because he is coming from a system that was so bad that people are only looking to a brighter future. They are saying the only way is up and we hope people. Promise and we do not have another 1980 moment. We ended up with a huge disaster on our hands when we celebrated them. We do hope the future is brighter. Will there ever be a day of reckoning for the syrian president , Basharal Assad . Twice last week, russia vetoed a move by the Un Security Council to extend the investigation into use of chemical weapons in syria. In thanks, perhaps, the syrian president paid a surprise visit to sochi yesterday to hug Vladimir Putin literally. Mr putin is taking full credit for mr assad remaining in power, saying the russian army saved the syrian state. This year, more than 80 people were killed in a sarin attack on the rebel held town of Khan Sheikhun an attack that prompted President Trump to launch 59 tomahawk cruise missiles at a syrian airbase. Thejoint report from the United Nations and International Chemical weapons inspectors determined that assad was responsible, and yet russia continues to defend him, to the incredulity of those sitting at the un table. Im frankly astounded. This third veto in a month clearly exposes, if it wasnt already obvious, russias determination to protect their syrian ally, whatever the harm that causes, to the ban on the use of chemical weapons to the Wider International System of rules to russias own reputation. President assads trip to sochi is the first time he has left his country in two years. The bearhug tells you all you need to know he would no longer be in power were it not for the russian intervention. So what comes next . Tomorrow, the russian president has meetings with leaders from iran and turkey. He is due to speak to President Trump again after that meeting. But does the us have any role anymore in the process . Thomas pickering was a Us Ambassador to russia and joins us now from washington. Many people watching will have serious distaste for the fact that mr assad is now part of the Peace Process. I think that is right. On the other hand, it should come as no surprise or shock as recently as a year ago, the obama administration, without saying much about it, had accepted the fact that what Henry Kissinger used to say about this, that assad would have to be in at the beginning but out at the end, would be a more realistic view that the notion that before any talks could begin, certainly with us participation, assad had to be gone, which i think was perhaps a wonderful aspiration of political non feasibility. Wonderful aspiration of political nonfeasibility. But has the United States effectively ceded control of this Peace Process to russia . It was not long ago that the americans under president obama were at least calling these meetings are now they are not even invited to the table. It appears at least at this stage for the good bit of seeding has taken place, for the good bit of seeding has ta ken place, not just for the good bit of seeding has taken place, notjust to russia, but to the russia, iran, turkey triumvirate which will meet in saatchi on wednesday, tomorrow, and will hold a conference of syrian peoples, seemingly a Representative Group of the people who support assad or at least are not supporting the anti assad group. Turkey has had problems with that because there will be kurds present but they seem to be resolved. But what we heard from putin and assad is an awful lot of processed but not much in the way of processed but not much in the way of politics in terms of how they will solve this particular problem. We have seen a lot of things from the side including de escalations owns the side including de escalations owns which seem to be the precursors of the soft partition of syria looming in the background. One wonders in fact whether, as president putin announces his departure for the third time, whether that will be realistic or not it actually mean anything or whether in fact it is just another stage in russia scaling down but still hanging on quite tightly to its searing objectives. Isnt part of the problem, when it comes to assad, the weakness of the Un Security Council . If they were speaking with one voice, he would have to go, but continually, whether it comes to the conflict itself whether it is the investigation into chemical weapons, it is russia that exercises its veto. That is quite right. The Security Council and the russian veto at another indication of what i would call limited progress. We have the depend on that. The un seems to be excluded from the meeting or at least the negotiator may well be hovering in the background somewhere. There had been some hope that the russians might at least use their influence to try to stop chemical weapons. Are we to try to stop chemical weapons. Are we giving up on that prospect as well . The Trump Administration shows a sense of non engagement. Maybe because they are overwhelmed by higher priorities like north korea and so on. But in some ways, it is a continuing example of the fact that the state department is understaffed, what they are focusing on is high Priority Issues that seem to be left out to pasture here from the point of view of the United States. We cannot then expect much in the way the us influence. Putin will call trump, but i do not know what that will produce. Last famous call they had putin suggesting Nuclear Disarmament and trump was not sure what that meant. He a nswered not sure what that meant. He answered in the negative. The veto they have just exercised at the Security Council was for an american bill. So Security Council was for an american bill. 50 where is this that resident trump had promised between russia and the United States . We do not see much coming out of it. Putin holds the line quite strongly and stiffly in the areas he is most interested in securing russian interests. Trump seems to be on the sideline, unwilling to criticise putin, although the rest of the United States is quite vehemently. On the other hand unable to get mr putin to do very much to support what is american policy and, after all, putinjumped in american policy and, after all, putin jumped in with american policy and, after all, putinjumped in with obama and said, lets get rid of the chemical weapons. When that happened two yea rs weapons. When that happened two years ago. There is a russian interest in performing on the chemical weapons account in large measure because of his partial authorship of that particular question. It is interesting. We have the case of the russians and the syrians, the case of zimbabwe, we are looking at those live pictures from harare right now, and in both cases there are questions about american engagement over the engagement of some other power, beat moscow or beijing. As these momentous events unfold around the world, the question of american involvement and leadership. Also questions about accountability. Were talking about two leaders who have carried out on the old abuse against the all bone people are getting off scot free. Where will Robert Mugabe go . There was thought he might go to south africa but in fa ct he might go to south africa but in fact there is a charge is wife is facing in south africa so maybe malaysia and singapore where they have departments. Maybe that will be the final destination. Some outbreaks of rain affecting many parts of the uk this evening but wet and windy weather on the way tomorrow. This is one weather watch abuse from cambridge. Hard pressed to find much in the way of sunshine tomorrow. The winds had been picking up, blustery night. Those winds will get stronger into the day tomorrow. Some of the rain overnight will leave the time that this next batch fringing in the Northern Ireland become significant. A mild start across england and wales with temperatures into double figures. Well into double figures. But it is windy. Cloud around, many places dry. Thats rain edging into the western and northern parts of wales. It will be persistent. We could see up it will be persistent. We could see up to 100 millimetres of rain by the time we had done. But it started in belfast. Across much of scotland it will be dry. Rain and snow in the very far north. This is the main area of rain through the day. They just to pull away eastwards from Northern Ireland, pushes into Northern England and southern scotland. Very wet air into the southern uplands. Notice the wind arrows. Southern uplands. Notice the wind arrows. The wind strengthening in england and wales with gales developing, maybe up to 70 mph. A bit cooler for scotland and Northern Ireland. Things may be ok travel wise but coming home in the evening, with rain in places, strong destructive winds, there could be problems. On thursday, be aware, northern scotland, snow. Low levels to begin with. A dry day for many of us on to begin with. A dry day for many of us on thursday. Still very mild for much of england and wales. Especially when we get sunshine. Still blustery, the winds easing a bit. Colder air pushes south across the uk but a complication comes in. Another area of low pressure. Uncertainty about weather rain will go. Some will have a very wet day on friday. As that pulls away, they cold air completes its journey back south across the uk, right in time for the weekend. A fine, dry, sunny day but wintry showers around during saturday, especially in the north and west. This is beyond one hundred days, with me katty kay in washington christian frasers in london. Our top stories Robert Mugabe makes a suprise resignation. And the jubilant response is immediate. This is the scene now in harare hours after the news broke people cant stop celebrating. The dictator is gone but the system survives. We will look at what comes next in zimbabwe after years of economic ruin. Also coming up in the next half hour. President trump issues his first pardons to turkeys that is. In a holiday tradition these birds can rest a little easier. Let us know your thoughts by using the hashtag. beyond one hundred days. Robert mugabe has resigned after 37 years as zimbabwes president. The suprise announcement came after parliament began the impeachment process. Half way through that session the speaker interrupted the debate its a bit hard to make out what Jacob Mudenda says but the key word is resignation and just watch how the parliament reacts. Notice of resignation. Cheering how do zimbabweans feel about the events of the last few hours . Rashweat and caroline mukundu have been in the centre of harare today with three of their children to celebrate a new era for their country. Theyre now back home again and join us from there. Lovely to see you both. You must be full of optimism for your children . We are full of optimism, our children are asking us what is happening. They have grown up knowing only one leader. It is an early christmas for zimbabwe. And we did not believe this would ever happen in our lifetime. We were suffocating onto the Political Leadership of Robert Mugabe. But right now heavy burden has been lifted from our shoulders. Where happy and look forward to the future. We will not allow another leadership like mugabe to come back ever leadership like mugabe to come back ever again. What is the Economic Situation like for your family under Robert Mugabe recently and how hopeful you that it will get better soon . The Economic Situation has been a heavy burden, i can assure you. For the few of us lucky to be employed, you have to kick take care of yourfamily, employed, you have to kick take care of your family, of the health of your parents and siblings, your parents in law, everyone, in terms of paying fees. Right now even we cannot get water, men have nojobs. And were the military and the loo leadership that will come will really look at the economic policies. Just new leadership. 50 that our lives can be improved. It has been a heavy burden. And at the end of the month you know whatever level you get will have to be split across your extended family. What would you say to Party Leaders today about the kind of future you want . Im 35 years old and the mother of three girls and im so excited today. I hope at least my children will be able to go to school and have books, right now im at home and we have no water. And i hope that this is a new beginning and we will have everything we need for us to be able to feed our children and send them to school. Would you like zanu pf to carry on or would you like a Transitional Government . We wa nt to like a Transitional Government . We want to see a Transitional Government that overcomes the polarisation of the past. Were tired of violence. Tired of people inside its by political leaders to beat each other. We do not want to go back to the politics of polarisation. And psychologically this has helped us really look at who we are. We have enjoyed freedom of expression in the past few days, talking about our wishes. And we never talking about our wishes. And we never again want these rights to be taken back. Never again want these rights to be ta ken back. So never again want these rights to be taken back. So we hope our political leaders will look beyond their selfish interests and beyond the politics of Party Interests to the people of zimbabwe. This is our wish that were willing to support them and willing to defend our rights. Good to see both, thank you so much. Earlier, the bbc spoke to nick mangwana, the chairman of the zanu pf uk committee as news was emerging of mugabes resignation. Nick is has re joined us. So they want zanu pf to put the Country First and not the party. They are right, the party was set up to deliver certain political and economic outcomes for its people. But people are looking at what might be around the corner, the return of the Vice President and theyre saying hang on, this is more of the same. Theyre wrong, i can reassure them of that. In china when chairman mao died, some people thought the same thing. And in tanzania when the last president went out, they thought the same. A few weeks ago in angola they thought the same way but in all these examples it was the beginning of transformation and reform. And the same applies to zimbabwe, it is the beginning of the new year and new dispensation. Elections are coming up next year. And for every example that you give there are also examples of regimes that have got rid of the leadership but have carried on in an autocratic way and you can understand why after 37 years of 1 party rule zimbabweans might feel sceptical that zanu pf really is prepared to engage in a democratic process and perhaps even allow an Opposition Party to win . Im just hearing your voice 0k, we can assure you im just hearing your voice 0k, we can assure you that when the military took power or other took control of things, they ensured they assured zimbabweans there was a new dispensation. The new dispensation phrase came way too many times and zimbabweans were assured of a new beginning. The Vice President is now a president ial nominee. And in his statements he was giving a new vision. And saying it is not all about zanu pf. It is going to be about this country. He presided over economic grown alongside Robert Mugabe. 9096 unemployment. It does not work like that. They have no power at all . He had limitations. In zanu pf we had only one person who held the power. Everyone else was delivering things asa everyone else was delivering things as a proxy of the centre of power. And the Vice President was a proxy that centre of power. Are you prepared to say right now if elections were held in a month or three months time, and the Opposition Party or one Opposition Party won, that zanu pf would cede control of power . It has two because one thing were going to do is abide by the constitution and in one of the offences mugabe was accused of was not respecting the constitution and that was an impeachable issue. Soldo and that was an impeachable issue. So i do not think we can be so hypocritical ass to do the same thing. Thank you very much. Lets go to these live pictures coming in from harare. These celebrations i think may go on long into the night. We still do not know the whereabouts of Robert Mugabe. We do not know where he is, whether is going to stay the country where grace mugabe is. One of the most remarkable things about watching these pictures is seeing those soldiers earlier, we saw them on the tanks being embraced by civilians on the streets. But for so long the military has been seen asa so long the military has been seen as a weapon so long the military has been seen as a weapon of Robert Mugabe for keeping control of the country and seething now is the liberators, you just hope the hopes of all those people celebrating tonight are well founded and there is now economic and political reform. Seeing them now as and political reform. Seeing them now as the liberators. What a quarter of zimbabweans had left the country were told during the time of mugabe. Some of the other news. Famous us talk show host charlie rose has been sacked by cbs following allegations of Sexual Harassment. Eight women accused mr rose of inappropriate behaviour in a report published by the washington post. In an internal memo the president of cbs news said mr roses employment was terminated Effective Immediately and the revelations showed intolerable behaviour. This marks just the latest case of Sexual Harassment claims following the Harvey Weinstein case. In a statement posted to twitter, charlie rose said. I deeply apologise for my inappropriate behavior. I am greatly embarrassed. I have behaved insensitively at times, and i accept responsibility for that, though i do not believe all of those allegations are accurate. I always felt that i was pursuing shared feelings, even though i now realize i was mistaken. I think it is that last bit that has people here surprised because of course we people here surprised because of course we have had a string of men in powerful positions forced now to issue similar apologies and that is quite a distinction between some of the apologies. The ones that are wrote apologies and the ones that seem to have a bit of a but at the end of them and i think that was a bit of a but. This shared feelings. One of the women said that she was in tears at the time that she was in tears at the time that she was being harassed so i think pretty clear that in that incident peelings were not shared. He employed his staff and we have talked about this in the house of commons, there was no in between charlie rose and the people but he employed. Interesting that cbs who fired this afternoon in a termination notice that what may once have been accepted should not ever once have been accepted should not ever have been acceptable. And that brings us to the point that maybe this is the Tipping Point in the uk and the us that this kind of behaviour can no longer be tolerated. Many people in this position, the men who have been exposed like this, they seem to be older and you wonder if it is just a generational thing than that younger men do not do this is much was up but also perhaps i think more sceptically it is because that these men have power and as their career has progressed they get more power and this is not about sex, but abuse of power towards people who are vulnerable and on your command and that was the case with charlie rose. So the man in his 30s darting out does not have that kind of power. So lets see if this is a generational thing orjust that men tend to become the men who are going to abuse become abusers as they get older and more powerful. Well the public mood i think is shifted in the United States and yet we heard from the Trump Administration and from the Trump Administration and from Kellyanne Conway that she wants people to vote for roy warr, a man facing allegations quite frankly of paedophilia. She is saying go and vote for him because we need the votes a nd vote for him because we need the votes and elsewhere people are apologising, resigning, being suspended. And actually won the first allegations came out about war memorial Kellyanne Conway was interviewed and said that no senate seat was worth the safety of a child. 50 quite dramatic the shift that shes made basically saying we need that vote on tax reform and were prepared to put up with what one or has done. So a pretty stunning reversal of her position. Still to come. Time to talk turkey. President trump spares two birds from the thanksgiving table in a tradition that goes back decades. An investigation into alleged data manipulation at a Forensics Laboratory in manchester has uncovered more than ten thousand criminal cases may have been affected. The laboratory is used by Police Forces across the country. Our Home Affairs Correspondent Daniel Sandford reports. A glossy promotional video for randox testing services, used by dozens of Police Forces to check suspects for drug use. But its now clear that for more than three years, those tests have been unreliable. My advice from the Forensic Science regulator was that up to 10,000 cases spanning back to late 2013 could no longer be fully relied upon in the criminal justice system. 10,000 cases. Defence lawyer nick freeman was one of the first to spot the problem when one of his clients, who had admitted taking a little bit of cannabis, tested positive for drugs he knew he hadnt taken. When we got the report from randox, it suggested a much larger amount than had been anticipated, but it also suggested he consumed cocaine and another substance, and he hadnt consumed any of those substances, as far as he was concerned. The actual number of miscarriages of justice is unclear. The Crown Prosecution Service has dropped 50 prosecutions for drug driving that havent come to court yet, and two cases of death by careless driving involving drugs have been referred back here to the court of appeal. Two employees from randoxs Manchester Laboratory are suspected of not retesting samples that had failed quality checks. Theyve been arrested but not charged. The company says it deeply regrets the distress caused and is paying for thousands of retests. But the regulator believes it is an isolated problem. There are also concerns about work done by the same two employees on family cases and Workplace Testing at Trimega Laboratories before it was taken over by randox. Daniel sanford, bbc news, at the court of appeal. Youre watching beyond one hundred days. The resignation of Robert Mugabe is bringing some hope that the economy of the country may turn around. Dr Theo Acheampong is a Senior Analyst at ihs markit. People say there is no money, no cash, what actually goes on, how do people carry out their transactions . What the government has introduced a two tier system where you have a voucher system will you just going with the card and can use that to make transactions. These are backed by government ious and in addition to that when you queue up to get money for the cash machine there is a limit on the transaction that you can do. So a limit on the transaction that you can do. 50 currently a limit ofjust 100 us dollars, it used to be about 500. But because of the severe liquidity crisis the government had to intervene and then the central bank recently even had to pinch to print ious to say take this piece of paper and the government will honour the payment obligation of that. I spoke to one friend who runs a business in zimbabwe and he needed to buy boxes, and ordinary thing that all factories used and he could not pay for them because the outside supplierfrom not pay for them because the outside supplier from another country would not trust that he would get paid. That is very true and to the extent that there are structural issues facing the economy. As we speak now the zimbabwean economy has less than one month of import cover for international reserves. Basically meaning International Benchmark is looking at three, four months of import cover because of the severe liquidity crisis that has faced the economy. This has got to the point that virtually there is no money to support the payment coming in. And so you have people who ordinarily would have transacted business with other people or other International Partners stepping back a bit because theyre just not too sure when they would get paid and not too sure even if they would get paid at all. Chronic situation. Thank you very much. For more on mugabe and what happens next in zimbabwe lets talk to sara dorman whos latest book is understanding zimbabwe from liberation to authoritarianism. The country has been brutalised for so long politically and economically, how difficult will it be to get back on its feet . It will be to get back on its feet . It will bea be to get back on its feet . It will be a challenging situation for zimbabwe. A huge amount of goodwill exists and i think the people for all their very excited and hopeful, they understand that this is about more thanjust they understand that this is about more than just removing one they understand that this is about more thanjust removing one man. I think people understand many of the challenges both political and economic ahead of them. But yes, it is not going to be easy. That said zimbabwe have been resilient, it has very good underlying infrastructure and excellent trained people so i think that there is potential there for the rebirth that people are talking about. For millions of course talking about. For millions of course Robert Mugabe is the only leader that they had ever known. Who will regret his leaving us right i certainly have heard people saying for example, i had a discussion with some friends saying my 14 year old daughter is totally opposed to mugabe but my mother will not hear anything against him. So i think there is a cohort of people who respect him as an individual, despite much of what has happened. I think there is a broader issue of the legacy of the Liberation War which is still held very dearly by many zimbabweans and that is why this process of events that we have seenin this process of events that we have seen in the past week has been called Operation Restore legacy. They want to restore the legacy of the party, of the movement that brought zimbabwe to independence. The suggestion is that it has gone off track and they want to bring it back. So the people hoping to take power from within zanu pf and especially, they see themselves as pa rt especially, they see themselves as part of the legacy but are trying to identify with the good parts of the legacy and not necessarily with the more negative parts of what has happened. The human rights abuses, the economic disasters, the decline of so much of zimbabwe . Political and economic systems. Thank you very much. Its nearly thanksgiving here in the us and that means just one thing in washington, time for the president to spare the life of a turkey. A tradition as old as. Well, pretty old. This particular bird was called drumstick oddly. It will spend the rest of its days not as part of a thanksgiving feast but in retirement at a university in virginia. As many of you know i have been very active in overturning a number of executive actions by my predecessor. However i have been informed by the white House Counsel s office that pardons cannot under any circumstances be revoked. So were not going to revoke them. Well as its such a long standing tradition, and as President Trump mentioned his predecessor we thought wed look back at some of president obamas turkey pardons. There are certain days that remind me of why i ran for this office and then there are moments like this where i padoin turkey and send it disneyland if for some reason, cannot fulfil his duties as the official white house turkey, gobbler will be waiting in the wings. Today im taking an action fully within my legal authority, the same kind of action taken by democrat and republican president s before me, to spare the lives of two turkeys, mac and cheese. From a terrible and delicious fate. Im going to publicly thank maria and sasha who once again are standing here with me during the turkey pardoning. Now where did think the turkey goes before its big day at the white house . No idea. Have a look at these pictures, these turkeys went last night to the woolard intercontinental on pennsylvania avenue. I kid you not. They went to a twin room, these are the pictures. I look today because im curious and a twin room there is anything up to 1000 per night. There they are going with the baggage handlers all the way down the corridor. And then they go into the room and you will see them, this is their bedroom. And they left them in this room, paint for by the National Turkey federation if you come to washington let me tell you you will not be put up their just one other fa ct, not be put up their just one other fact, not just not be put up their just one other fact, notjust one turkey but actually an alternate turkey so you have had turkeys named in areas, stars and stripes, cobbler and gobbler, mac and cheese. You get the drift. But i do not know if there has been a turkey called katty and the back up turkey called christian and if so which one would be saved that is the twitter question which one would you save i was looking at how many pounds, 47 in five months, that turkey. My last turkey statistic of the day that is it on turkey we will see you same time tomorrow. Goodbye. Some outbreaks of rain affecting many parts of the uk this evening but wet and windy weather on the way tomorrow. This is one weather watcher view from cambridge. Hard pressed to find much in the way of sunshine tomorrow. The winds have been picking up, blustery night. Those winds will get stronger into the day tomorrow. Some of the rain overnight will ease for a time that this next batch fringing in the Northern Ireland become significant. A mild start across england and wales with temperatures into double figures. Well into double figures. But it is windy. Cloud around, many places dry. Thats rain edging into the western and northern parts of wales. It will be persistent. We could see up to 100 millimetres of rain by the time we are done. Wet start in belfast. Across much of scotland it will be dry. Rain and snow in the very far north. This is the main area of rain through the day. May pull away eastwards from Northern Ireland, pushes into Northern England and southern scotland. Very wet air into the southern uplands. Notice the wind arrows. The wind strengthening in england and wales with gales developing, maybe up to 70 mph. A bit cooler for scotland and Northern Ireland. Things may be ok travel wise but coming home in the evening, with rain in places, strong destructive winds, there could be problems. On thursday, be aware, northern scotland, snow. Low levels to begin with. A dry day for many of us on thursday. Still very mild for much of england and wales. Especially when we get sunshine. Still blustery, the winds easing a bit. Colder air pushes south across the uk but a complication comes in. Another area of low pressure. Uncertainty about where the rain will go. Some will have a very wet day on friday. As that pulls away, the cold air completes its journey back south across the uk, right in time for the weekend. A fine, dry, sunny day but wintry showers around. The day that Robert Mugabe resign. He led zimbabwe for 37 years, but with parliament about to impeach him, did the president jump before he was pushed . And joyous celebrations followed. People are chancing out on the streets tonight, releasing years of pent up frustration at Robert Mugabes increasingly autocratic rule. It is a happy day today, independence is finally here. This is the man likely to take over. Two weeks ago, Emmerson Mnangagwa was sacked as Vice President. In the next 48 hours, we expect him to become president. Alas, the long time Opposition Leader morgan sang the reich tells the bbc what