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Lenin thinking about you, taking care of you, or just watching you. Get in touch with us using the hashtag beyond one hundred days hello and welcome im katty kay in washington and Christian Fraser is in london. Donald trump today wants to talk about tax reform, his asia trip, Hillary Clinton and even the white houses halloween decorations, but american journalists, prosecutors and lawmakers are all consumed with the dramatic developments in the russia investigation. No amount of candy is going to change that. Meanwhile on capitol hill, the three Big Tech Companies are being hauled in to answer questions about their unwitting involvement in moscows bid to meddle in the 2016 election. In detailed disclosures sent to congress on monday, facebook revealed the Internet Research agency, a Russian Company linked to the kremlin, had posted 80,000 ads over two years. Roughly 110 a day. 29 Million People accessed them directly, before and after the election. Those posts were liked, shared orfollowed by 126 million users. As for twitter, in the three months prior to the election, the site identified more than 36,000 automated accounts, that posted 1. 4 million election related tweets linked to russia. Those tweets received approximately 288 million views. And those who believe he should stay put. Whether or not his body remains on red square, Vladimir Lenin is little more than a museum piece now to most russians. A curiosity. A relic of a lost world. These are the live pictures from congress and that is the head of google giving evidence. Lets cross live to capitol hill now where we can speak to congressman joaquin castro. Hes a democrat who sits on the house Intelligence Committee. Facebooks argument seems to be that 126 million users sounds like a lot, but in the scheme of things it is tiny compared to the number of posts that go up each day on facebook. But since it only took 80,000 votes to decide the election in three states, i want is possible that facebook decided the election . It is certainly an incredible amount of americans exposed to posts that were basically designed by russian agents to influence the 2016 elections in the united states. So 126 million americans is a very big deal and im looking forward to hearing from facebook and others on what they plan to do to combat that in 2018 and 2020. These days when we go on facebook, we favourite something and the algorithms point us to things that our friends and colleagues like. That is the problem here, 29 Million People have direct access to these ads, but it spreads further and wider than that . Thats right, what is interesting is the strategy is they want to get it into the blood stream of social media. Once it is there, you have legitimate people, americans, citizens, voters, who spread it. It is like starting a small fire that spreads and because with facebook and other social media companies, there is an exemption about having a disclaimer about who is paying for political ad, that made it harder for americans to recognise that something was wrong here. Are you convinced these companies now take this sercejosly . Seriously . Ithink companies now take this sercejosly . Seriously . I think they are. But what Congress Wants to see is a plan of action to root this out. So far i think facebook has taken it more seriously than twitter. Twitter is iiow seriously than twitter. Twitter is now coming along. But there should be no excuse here. They need to talk about exactly how theyre going to make sure that this doesnt happen again. Congressman stay with us because we want to ask you about the developments in bob muellers investigation. Mr trumps former Campaign Manager Paul Manafort and aide rick gates are spending their first day under house arrest after being indicted by the special counsel yesterday. Today on twitter, the president went after george papodopolous, his former Campaign Foreign policy advisor who is now co operating with the fbi. Few people knew the young, low level volunteer named george, he said who has already proven to be a liar. Check the dems. The White House Press secretary gave this reaction to the mueller investigation. You seem obsessed with this while there are other things happening that people care more about. The media refuses to cover it, instead of the focus being on tax cuts. If you look at the records, the questions that i take in here day out have more to do with an investigation that frankly most americans dont care much about and a lot less to do with policies that impact them. Congress man castro, your reaction to that, most americans are not interested in the russia investigation. americans are not interested in the russia investigation. I think she should resign as press secretary. She is issuing outright lies to the american people. The folks that seem like theyre taking it least serious tend to be the white house and her comments reflect that. It is disengeneral use and what you saw yesterday, particularly the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos is that there is more and more evidence of collusion between members of Trump Campaign and the russian agents who interfered with the 2016 election in the united states. As the special counsels office said yesterday, George Papadopoulos was just one small part of a much larger investigation. What the republicans would say is it was Hillary Clinton who was colluding with the russians and theircampaign who was colluding with the russians and their campaign wanted dirt on donald trump. Isnt that the same thing . Well, first, fusion gps was hired by a very conservative publication and picked up by the dnc and the Hillary Clinton campaign. There is no question that Opposition Research is the underbelly of politics, but when somebody does research on another person, or candidate, theyre going to find whatevers out there. If somebody hasnt paid their taxes, they will find that. Isnt that what George Papadopoulos said he was doing. There is a difference between Opposition Research with a Foreign Government and Research Among americans. Those are two very different things. The dumping of e mails was meant to affect the election in a direct way and that is what it seems like he was try to accomplish. Thank you forjoining us. Accomplish. Thank you forjoining us. Interesting, his comments about what is going on at the white house and saying the press secretary should resign. It is a bit alice in wonderland, the things that we are hearing, it doesnt bear any relation to what we saw in the indictments. Have you seen the front of white house, it is covered in giant spiders and cob webs. I manage there was a moment when donald trump thought has halloween come early. Not only was he trying to concentrate on the sealed indictments that were being opened, but he had to play host to these witches and monsters. It gives me, this is the video the white house put out, you wond wler the president wonder whether the president isnt thinking the white house is the Haunted House and he would rather be somewhere else. He did hand out cannedy to a little girl and told her it was a good thing she didnt have a weight problem. We will return to that the story on Paul Manafort and rick gates later. Here in britain, a former member of labours National Executive committee has told the bbc she was raped at the age of 19 at a party event by a party member and was then persuaded by a senior labour official to drop her allegations. Bex bailey is now calling for an independent agency to investigate reports of assault and harassment within the party. Our Political Correspondent vicki young reports. Bex bailey has decided to speak out. She hopes talking about her personal ordeal will help change the way all Political Parties handle allegations of Sexual Misconduct. She says she was raped at the age of 19, and the party didnt do enough to help. I was seriously sexually assaulted at a labour party event by. It wasnt an mp, but someone who was more senior. To me, i told a Senior Member of staff. It was suggested to me that i not report it. I was told if i did it might damage me. I wasnt given good advice, i wasnt given a procedure when i asked for it so that i could see what would happen if i did report it then make a decision. It seemed to be there wasnt one that existed. Bex bailey believes this is a problem that goes right through politics at every level. Yesterday, mps called for a change, and the need to give people confidence their complaints would be taken seriously. One of the things it needs is an element of independence. Women need to be able to report to an independent agency so that they know that these issues will be dealt with fairly, that the political bias will be taken out of them, and so that they feel they can have the confidence to report these difficult issues without feeling that they will be penalised as a result. The labour party has responded to the interview, saying, we would strongly recommend that the Police Investigate the allegations of criminal actions that bex bailey has mentioned. They also say they will want an independent investigation into claims that an employee acted improperly over these 2011 allegations. There have been rumours at westminster over sexual misbehaviour and the bbc has seen a list of claims, many unproven, against several conservative mps and ministers, but the real concern here is that all Political Parties have been too slow to support and encourage those who want to speak out about bullying, harassment and sexual assault. This summer, labour beefed up its procedures to deal with complaints of Sexual Harassment to make sure they are dealt with sensitively. My Leaderjeremy Corbyn takes this issue very seriously. We take a zero tolerance approach to any allegations of harassment, both within parliament and our party, and he said he will work with theresa may to find an overarching system where people can feel confident that if they make a complaint it is dealt with seriously. Everyone seems to agree that the system must improve, but taking the politics out of these sensitive issues will not be easy. Vicky young, westminster. Its not entirely clear what Charles Puigdemont was doing in brussels today sight seeing perhaps, eating good food, or maybe escaping the long arm of the spanish courts. The catalonian separatist leader insists hes not actually seeking asylum and for its part brussels says it certainly didnt invite him for a visit, nor does it recognise his so far failed independence bid. It all adds to the confusion surrounding his plans and the future of the region. Mr puigdemont told a News Conference that if hed stayed in spain it would have provoked a violent reaction from the spanish government. He insists he is still catalonias legitimate president even though madrid has dismissed all the separatist leaders and wants to charge mr puidgemont with rebellion and sedition. Im not here in order to demand political asylum. This is not about a belgian question. Im here in brussels as the capital of europe. This is not a matter of the. Question of the belgium politics. It has no relationship. Im here in order to act with freedom and safety. Tim willcoxjoins us now from barcelona. How much disappointment is there among separatist members, rank and file, at Carles Puigdemont hot footing it to brussels and staying there . Well, do you know quite a lot. I have been speaking to some hard lined supporters who think he has betrayed them. He has gone and left some members of his former cabinet here to face the music and that music could start soon. He talks of freedom and safety. He said he is not seeking asylums, but he has has set up a web site of his government in exile. A lot of his supporters find that offensive. They say in the franco erow the people who left did so era the people who left did so era the people who did leave would have been killed. One other development is the attorney general has already put perspective charges against Carles Puigdemont and members of his cabinet to the national court, the judge has now decided that she wants to hear from Carles Puigdemont and the others and she has summoned them to madrid on thursday morning with that hearing expected to run over to friday as well. Very serious charges. Charges of sedition and rebellion and misuse of public funds that could lead to a prison sentence of 30 years. I wouldnt put a lot of money on Carles Puigdemont willingly returning to madrid to make that appearance. Because he said he doesnt think he will get a free and fair trial by the madrid authorities. On that point, this could at some point put the europeans in a sticky position, the Prime Minister of belgium said he has the same rights and responsibilities as any other european citizen. But if he is charged with those crimes, you can imagine they will have to hand him back to the spaniards . Well yeah, if there is an International Arrest warrant what, happens then . On the point of the belgian Prime Minister, the last thing he wants to do is have a spat with spain. He has made that very clear. But remember he is ina that very clear. But remember he is in a Fragile Coalition and the largest member of his coalition, its leader is saying we wont turn our back on our catalan friends and he said that they would defend and support puj. Carles puigdemont. So it is another looming headache at the least for the eu. And indeed for the least for the eu. And indeed for the supporters of Carles Puigdemont and the former government here in catalonia. Because they talk about betrayal, millions of them thought that Carles Puigdemont was going to ta ke that Carles Puigdemont was going to take them to independence. He has fiow take them to independence. He has now fled the country. He is not going to come back until he gets some commitments from madrid, which i dont think he will get, and some of his supporters say this has put the cause for independence back many years, although Carles Puigdemont said he will take part in elections called for in december. Something which had he announced himself would have prevented according to spain the entire implementation of direct rule. Thank you very much. Im joined now in the studio by spokesperson for the Catalan National assembly in england carles suarez. Do you feel betrayed . Not lets not forget that the last time that the Spanish State put into jail a catalan president he was assassinated. But that is not going to happen now. He has been asked a 30 year sentence for organising a referendum. Arent revolutionaries supposed to stand and fight. These leader. But it is a democratic revolution. These revolutions are winnable in polls. That is what we did and we are going to do again in december. What about the opposition to Mariano Rajoy in catalonia, why is not very visible. There is no sign of people taking to the streets or you know the government going into the Catalan Parliament and. That is true. Why is that not happening . Independence was proclaimed on friday. Carles puigdemont and members of his government have gone into exile in belgium. It is true home rule from spain is controlling the territory. But his narrative of why this is being done, because he wanted to avoid another brutal, violent act from the Spanish State. What he is saying it, lets go a bit slower. Lets not take to the streets and defend the republic street by street. But lets try to regain the mandate and that will happen in the elections in december. Was itjust too early for you to call the referendum on independence. Were you not ready for it. It doesnt look like you had the steps in place after the vote. I know where youre coming from. It is not readiers because the preparations for 2014 referendum. I dont think it is a question of design of how to go from the proclamation to independence. He decided to take a step back and go the process slower, keep the calm and peace in the country. We also wa nt and peace in the country. We also want sprain did on referendum on referendum with the brutality of the police. He doesnt want Civil Servants to be put in that position. I understand your point, but this is directing to a re mandate for independence. Thank you very much. It is hard to see how it doesnt look like a victory for madrid, but nay didnt handle it well on referendum day, but they seem to be getting most of what they want now. You were talking of revolutionaries. Its one hundred years since the Russian Revolution, an event that would define the 20th century. All this week our moscow correspondent Steve Rosenberg will be crossing russia to report from cities connected to that historic event. Today hes in moscow, the final resting place of Vladimir Lenin. In the second of his special series steve looks at how modern russians view the founder of bolshevism. In a park outside moscow, these are the ghosts of communism past. Like a freak show of fallen idols. And the red star of this show is Vladimir Lenin, who led the Russian Revolution. There were an estimated 14,000 statues of this man in the soviet union. That means that wherever you went in the ussr, there was probably at least one lenin thinking about you. Taking care of you. Or just watching you. But communism did more than make statues of him. It preserved his body and put it on display. Lenin is more alive than the living, declared one soviet slogan. A whole Scientific Institute was set up to maintain the corpse. Over time, it has had to replace some skin and flesh with plastics and other material. Lenins red square mausoleum was a site of pilgrimage in the late ussr the late revolutionary quite literally cult viewing. Its one of the ironies of the Russian Revolution that the man who led it, the bolshevic who waged war on the church and once declared, there can be nothing more abominable than religion, that this man, Vladimir Lenin, ended up the closest thing communism had to a god. His body put on display here in the mausoleum and deified like a soviet saint. But 100 years after lenins revolution, might it now be time to consign the mausoleum to history and commit his body to the ground . I believe that he should be buried. This symbol of the revolution should find its proper place, not on the red square. Over our dead body, says the communist party. No one is going to lay a finger on him, the party leader says, and if anyone dares to try, well chase them away. Stanislas has a connection to the burial business. His company decorates funeral accessories. There is a lenin connection too he is Vladimir Lenins great, great grand nephew. One idea, stanislas says, is to bury lenin in the mausoleum to satisfy those who think he should lie in the ground and those who believe he should stay put. Whether or not his body remains on red square, Vladimir Lenin is little more than a museum piece now to most russians. A curiosity. A relic of a lost world. Im loving this series, we should have steve on the Programme Every night, whether or not it is the anniversary of the Russian Revolution. I remember reporting on the war in ukraine and every where you walked there was statues of lenin and they were pulling them down when i was there and they have pulled down about 1,300. In putins russia, they dont know what to do with them, whether to take them town or honour them. That tells you how complicated their history is. There will be one day of President Trump. The official portraits of President Donald Trump and Vice President mike pence have been released. Copies of the portraits will be printed by the Government Publishing Office and distributed to post offices, federal agencies and other government buildings. They look like school photographs. Why has it taken so long to get these. Nine months since he took office. It talk president obama three months. I think it is to do with donald trump and image. He is somebody who all his career has been very focussed on visuals, whether when he was doing the apprentice or working in television, the look of things and the lighting when he did the republican convention, the lighting of it, the stage setting, all important to donald trump. I dont know if that is why it has taken so long. But these photo matter to him. I think we should produce one for you. I could see an official portrait. It would need some air brushing. Official portrait. It would need some airbrushing. The bbc budget doesnt run to a statue. Perish the thought i would say that had any air brushing but mine would. This is beyond 100 days from the bbc. Coming up for viewers on the bbc news channel and bbc world news weve more from capitol hill as lawmakers pour over those incredible figures from facebook, which say millions of americans were exposed to russian material during the us election. And not that george, the other george namesakes the world over sympathise and stand in solidarity with George Papadopolous the Financial Planner, not the former Trump Campaign aide thats still to come. Tha nkfully thankfully halloween weather is quiet in many parts. Particularly for england and wales. Just the odd splash of rain in Northern England. Wetter in northern scotland. And some rain over night in Northern Ireland too. But for many dry with clearer skies in england and wales with some mist and fog patches and into wednesday morning the focus for wet weather will be in scotland. Mainly from the Southern Highlands down to glasgow and edinburgh and the north coast of Northern Ireland. The east coast of scotland will be brighter. England and wales after that morning mist and fog should be fine. More sunshine than today. It should feel warmer. Temperatures up to 15 or 16 celsius. Brighter conditions in the east of scotland. But still wet weather in the south of scotland, linked to this front which will edge southwards, bringing thicker cloud and mist and fog. But a cheerer night and cold in scotland. It does mean into thursday, other than this weak front, with a zone of cloud, that will continue to push into the southern parts of england and wales, some rain and drizzle. Much of Northern England and Northern Ireland will have a fine day. Not warm. But you will have the sunshine to compensate. More cloud for all of us to compensate. More cloud for all of us into friday. The best of bright skies in the east. Some rain in the north west of scotland and Northern Ireland. And we will see another feature through friday night bringing heavy rain into england and wales. That becomes the dominant feature. But it doesnt stop us from seeing colder airfor the feature. But it doesnt stop us from seeing colder air for the weekend. That will push across all parts and bring us a mixed weekend. A weekend full of fireworks for some with sunshine and some showers in the north and west. For all a chilly breeze too. This is beyond 100 days. Representatives of Google Facebook and twitter are testifying before a us senators to determine whether russia used their services to try to sway the 2060 president ial election. President trump has called former Campaign Adviser George Papadopoulos liar. And coming up, china has new tougher penalties for anyone found disrespecting the flag and anthem. And milking brexit, will need the uk Dairy Farmers looking beyond europe to grow their businesses before leaving the eu. Let us know your thoughts by using our hashtag, beyond 100 days. President trump is said to be seething as he watched the developments yesterday in the mueller investigation. George papadopoulos had mueller investigation. George pa padopoulos had pleaded mueller investigation. George papadopoulos had pleaded guilty and was now cooperating with the fbi. Russia is it clear did attempt to make contact with the Trump Campaign and offered so called dirt on Hillary Clinton in the form of e mail. It is also not clear from detailed disclosures that fake news was disseminated on facebook, twitter and google for years. In the weeks after the election Mark Zuckerberg said the idea that fake news on facebook had influenced the vote was crazy. But two months ago the social media site announced a 100,000 had been spent on us political advertisements by an operation likely based in russia. In september Mark Zuckerberg retracted his earlier statement, he said it was the longer crazy that fake news could have influenced the election. Facebook handed in information on 3000 advertisements linked to russia to congress. And of course today we learned that they could have been spread to 126 Million People. Our north America Technology correspondent is here and watching all of the hearing. We heard the Intelligence Committee then told that the social media giants are beginning to take this more seriously. What is your view on this . That is the impression theyre trying to give. Today we heard the testimony from the three companies. They have all been keen to stress that they have done a thorough investigation into the nature of this problem but also have been working on solving the problem for several years. Google said it had a tea m several years. Google said it had a team in place since 2014 to try to combat this. But some of the questions from the panel to the Tech Companies are quite revealing about where the investigation might be going. So they asked which other countries may also be trying to influence american voters. Potentially whitening is out there. And also the nature of some of the m essa 9 es and also the nature of some of the messages and interestingly facebook saying that after the election had finished the nature of what russian backed groups were hosting was sent to disrupt the validity of the win. So it seems that the goal has been to destabilise the American Democratic system. So revealing hearing so far and still to on wednesday as well. The president of courses take is this did not happen, it could mean anyone. He refers to a £400 bloke sitting on a bed. It will be harderfor them to £400 bloke sitting on a bed. It will be harder for them to stick to the line. I think hes been thrown a bone by facebook when they said they we re bone by facebook when they said they were trying to attack donald trump as well. If we are going to get an Early Morning message from the president that might be the detail he latches onto because there is a running theory that these advertisements from the russians we re advertisements from the russians were trying to attack Hillary Clinton alone. But it seems based on what the companies have told the committee today that that was not the case, it was just about staring debate and making people talk about inflammatory issues during the election such as race and immigration. All this of course is happening on capitol hill are mile away from the white house. Administration officials dealing with the fallout. Joining us now for a reaction to that is lawyer and author alan, thank you forjoining us. Author alan, thank you forjoining us. Just to get your reaction to everything that we heard yesterday coming out of the special Counsel Office and how serious you thought that might be for the administration . Really no surprise to anyone who has seen how criminal law and prosecution practice here in the us works. I predicted this three months ago. And what the tactic is is to try to find anyone close to the president is vulnerable. On taxes, online to the government, and then inviting them and squeezing them and trying get them to let another domino for, some even closer to the president. The ultimate goal is the big domino in the oval office. But the problem is it gets people not only to sing but also to compose. To improve their story, to elaborate on it and even outright lie. Because these witnesses know that they will get a sweeter deal. So it is a dangerous tactic. Speaking as a lawyer, if you were prosecuting a case like this would someone prosecuting a case like this would someone who was prosecuting a case like this would someone who was at a prosecuting a case like this would someone who was at a low level like George Papadopoulos or someone at the higher level and sat in on meetings like Paul Manafort, be more useful to you potentially . Generally the person who is closer to the target is more useful but in this case they may have had the younger person wearing a wire, they may have a proactive cooperating witness. He pleaded guilty to lying and you cannot use a liar as a witness, that is easy to cross examine by any defence attorney. So they wanted him to gather evidence, hard evidence on tape whether that worked or not, i doubt it. If it did i think we would know about it. What think that robert mueller, what is his tactic, three sealed indictments yesterday, what is he trying to say to the administration . I do not think hes trying to talk to the administration at all but talk to witnesses who might be vulnerable and have them come forward and say, if you come to us come forward and say, if you come to us proactively we will give you get outjail card. Ido us proactively we will give you get outjail card. I do not think there is any message to President Trump himself except perhaps to worry because people closest to him are vulnerable and people resent that. Paul manafort would never have been investigated where he not close to President Trump. But once they start looking they found alleged tax evasion, alleged laundering and then they had him and they were able to squeeze in. I think they will try to do that with everyone close to President Trump and so the message really was more to people close to the present than the president himself. Of course we should make the point that in the indictment yesterday with regards to paul ma nafort yesterday with regards to Paul Manafort there was no reference at all to the Trump Campaign or to donald trump. It might well have been jaywalking or double parking, it does not matter. Jaywalking woodwork, the penalty is not severe enough but it does not have to be related to the crime, or the need to do is have the ability to leverage the indictment, to get them to testify a nd the indictment, to get them to testify and provide evidence. So if you can get something that relates to russia that is better. And they did that but the other defendant, but with Paul Manafort and gates it is irrelevant that they had nothing to do with the russia probe as long as they have him and they can squeeze him and maybe get evidence about the russian probe. Thank you very much. This is interesting, you heard the lawyer talking about the possible state of mind up the president and think hes not the person getting the message does not need to be so worried but the American Press reports today from the white house still leaking like a sieve, and it pretty clear that the president himself was watching television as these indictments came down and were unsealed and is George Papadopoulos was also revealed in the press. And it caused a certain amount of consternation that he was not happy with this and the way it was being portrayed in the press. And the chief of Staffjohn Kelly last night saying it was incredibly distracting for the president , making his presidency harder to accomplish with thejohn presidency harder to accomplish with the john kelly presidency harder to accomplish with thejohn kelly interview interesting, he said it all happened before they joined interesting, he said it all happened before theyjoined the campaign. Interesting, he said it all happened before theyjoined the campaignm was clear that George Papadopoulos had gone to meet this contact here in london when he was already on board with the president Trump Campaign. And there are pictures of him sitting with donald trump and also with the head of this Foreign Policy advisor committee. They are both sitting there and trying to refer to George Papadopoulos as the coffee boy. And it was made clear that George Papadopoulos was approached by the russian operative oddly called the professor, this is a guy who is a russian agent. He was approached specifically because it was on the tramp campaign. Not a coffee insight police in the uk have investigated sexual abuse allegations made by seven women against the hollywood Film Producer harvey weinstein. The incidents are alleged to have taken place between the early 1980s and 2015 in london and outside the uk. Harvey weinstein has denied any allegations of nonconsensual sex. Netflix has announced the production of their house of cards next season has been suspended until further notice house of cards next season has been suspended untilfurther notice in the wake of claims of Sexual Misconduct against its star kevin spacey. That kwik save they want more time to review the situation and address concerns. The former italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is under investigation for alleged involvement in a series of mafia bombings in 1993 which left ten people dead. Prosecutors advanced open enquiry after an imprisoned mafia boss was caught on a wiretap saying that he had urged him to commit violence against the state. Billy connolly has been knighted just a few weeks ahead of his 75th birthday. Honoured for services to entertainment and charity as well as comedy. His best known work is the film mrs brown and the hobbit. Many stories before this about people behaving not very well china is considering tougher penalties for those who disrespect the National Anthem or flag. The draft law says behaviour could be punishable by up to three yea rs could be punishable by up to three years in prison at the moment people who mock the National Emblems can be held in custody for up to 15 days. This is the kind of story that can be found on drew the column of tell me something i dont know. But it has serious implications for people in hong kong. In the past month or so in hong kong. In the past month or so football fans in particular have been disrespecting the anthem. Building on the pitch when the chinese flag is raised. Or the anthem is played. Building. And if they face imprisonment for that it would be quite serious indeed. Lets bring you breaking news now, from new york. Police say they are investigating reports of gunfire in the Lower Manhattan area. One person has been taken into custody we understand. It is not yet known if anyone has been injured. We do have one message that is coming from police officials. Lets see if we can bring that up, responding to a sports of shots fired in Lower Manhattan. That is all we have at the moment. Still to come on the programme, the bank of england warning aboutjob programme, the bank of england warning about job losses programme, the bank of england warning aboutjob losses in a post breadth of britain. But we find out if the news is all bad. Post brexit. Police said they believed one man and five of his children aged between four and 11 died in a fire that ripped through a farmhouse in wales yesterday. Tributes have been paid to David Cuthbertson who lived at the property with other members of his family. Three children managed to escape. The investigation into the cause of the fire is under way. Flowers and messages, remembering five children who died. The youngest was four, the eldest 11 years old. The farmhouse where they lived with their father David Cuthbertson was completely destroyed. Police believe the 68 year old also died in the fire in the early hours of yesterday morning. The damage is so severe police cant yet formally identify the victims. Mary Ann Gilchrist is a family friend. She describes David Cuthbertson as a devoted father, who also had grown up children living nearby. I mean, what i find so horrific is that one of the people who were responding was his son in law who works for, you know, our retained firm. Can you imagine . His children are all sweet, intelligent, and he should. Im sure he was very proud of them. But i really dont think i can say any more, not at the moment. Im sorry, its too raw. That sadness is shared in the local village. In the post office funds and clothes are being collected for the three children aged 13, 12 and 19 who managed to escape the fire. We just wanted to feel that we were doing something as a community, and weve had people putting piggy banks in there, their Piggy Bank Money in this morning. In the local church, thoughts and prayers are with the family. A book of condolence has been opened, and its planned that a special service will be held later. Youre watching beyond 100 days was at the bank of england has warned 75,000 jobs could be lost from the Uk Financial Services sector if the Uk Financial Services sector if the uk leads the European Union without a trade deal. Seniorfigures uk leads the European Union without a trade deal. Senior figures at the back are said to be using the number as the scenario for future planning but are thought to be optimistic that negotiations will be successful. Earlier we spoke to the bbc economics editor. The problem is because these figures come from the bank of england, brexiteers will say that they are discredited and that the government once again is putting out the worst Case Scenario . the government once again is putting out the worstCase Scenario . I do not think that would be quite fair. The bank of england has asked all Financial Institutions in the city, banks and hedge funds and others to provide to them what they describe as contingency plans. They were sent to the bank over the summer and i think this number has come from that process. The bank, many in the city youre right would say an ideal scenario is the worst Case Scenario. Ididnt take scenario is the worst Case Scenario. I didnt take everyone in the bank thinks that is what will happen necessarily but they say they must make sure the Financial Institutions in london are prepared for what might be described as the worst. Some in the bag are optimistic that there will be a much more closer deal between Financial Services in london and Financial Services in the European Union and the rest of the European Union and the rest of the European Union. Not just European Union and the rest of the European Union. Notjust because thatis European Union. Notjust because that is important for the uk but also important for the European Union. London is the Global Financial centre for europe. It funds not only british businesses but also helps to Fund European governments and european businesses, helps them to raise money. It has got very deep Capital Markets and therefore the bank, best suggestion of 75,000 jobs i think is what many people would describe as a worst Case Scenario. People would describe as a worst Case Scenario. That does not mean that london itself. Being the globalfinancial mean that london itself. Being the Global Financial capital. To what extent Global Financial capital. To what exte nt d o Global Financial capital. To what extent do the numbers play into the government planning as they are going through the negotiating process . Going through the negotiating process . On Financial Services it is going to be one of the toughest challenges for the brexit negotiators on both sides. Disentangling 40 years of history where financial, london has been the gateway to the rest of the eu. On the british side are Financial Services, we have a trade surplus with the rest of the eu on Financial Services so economically for balance of payments in britain Financial Services are very important. And for the european side they are important for raising funds for European Union companies, governments that and also for the Foreign Exchange transactions that mostly take place in london for the rest of the European Union. So when it comes to the Financial Sector itself this is a high stakes, very important but of course the free trade deal including Financial Services is unusual. And not something that usually a free trade deal encompasses so it will be a very challenging area for both sides to meet. That is why i think the banker said you must prepare for ano the banker said you must prepare for a no deal is that is at least one possible outcome of these negotiations. The bank has said. Christian, youre meant to be part of that interview but you got lost literally in your own bbc building lets gloss that what would you have asked . Well im rather sceptical about this because i sat ona sceptical about this because i sat on a panel with sir Malcolm Rifkind last week and he said 75,000 jobs sounds like a lot but when you look at 1. 1 Million People working in the city of london, this is less than six or 7 . And many banks have said were going six or 7 . And many banks have said were going move, jp morgan said that and they have revised that now. Swiss bank, ubs, moving 250 jobs instead of 1000. They have to make arrangements but as the chief executive of barclays said, brexit was no more complicated than setting up was no more complicated than setting upa was no more complicated than setting up a whole new company in america. And i still maintain many of these banks will move offices to big cities but will keep the bulk of their staff here. Take the stairs next time while we heard about the labour crisis in the fruit and vegetable picking industry but also now the dairy industry. But some farmers see brexit as an opportunity. Imagine pure english pasture with contented cows, farms that have high welfare standards, producing high quality milk. This is all material for a powerful sales pitch, and its helping to open up markets outside europe. At this plant in birmingham, something is happening thats never been done before fresh british milk is packaged up to be sent 4,000 miles to qatar. And now milk from here in cheshire and the surrounding counties is soon to be transported even further afield, to china. The chinese have said they find it more simple to dealjust with the uk rather than the whole of europe. Would this be happening without the brexit vote . I believe not. We were sat with some very high decorated officials from the Chinese Government and one of the comments that was made was that, look, its very easy to do a deal with one country, very difficult to do a deal with 27 countries. The brexit deal is crucial to the industry, the vast majority of produce is exported to europe, and the uk relies heavily on dairy imports. Lets have a look at some of the figures about the industry. The number of Dairy Farmers has shrunk dramatically. Around 20 years ago, there were some 35,000 Dairy Farmers now thats down to around 13. And as for the average price of a pint of milk, that has gone up, by not very much though, from around 36 pence to around 43 pence, and many Dairy Farmers say thats not enough for them to earn a decent living. One of the main concerns for Dairy Farmers now is labour. Go on. It takes skill to operate the machinery and handle the animals, but few in the uk want to do the job, so now almost two thirds of dairy farms employ foreign staff. David brookes relies on his family to help run his farm in staffordshire. What would it mean for the dairy industry if controls were placed on Migrant Workers . Any farm thats been reliant on a Migrant Labour force, and there a good many that have built up their Business Models with large labour requirements, i think theyd struggle, certainly. This is one of the cheshire farms now providing the milk to qatar and china. James and rhiannan had been considering giving up their family business, but not now. We feel hopeful and it gives us a chance to feel, right, we can start to continue to invest in this business and improve it. But specific talks over a future trade deal havent even started. Its up to those around the negotiating table to decide the future of the uks farming landscape. Claire marshall, bbc news, cheshire. Some breaking news were getting from manhattan, several people injured in Downtown Manhattan according to police. They have said one person is in custody. Not much detail apart from that. It happened in the upmarket neighbourhood of chambers and west street. That is close to the bbc offices, the studio we we re close to the bbc offices, the studio we were in when we did the programme yesterday is down on the lower west side. And it is where police a p pa re ntly side. And it is where police apparently are telling the public not to go to that area, to avoid the west side highway. You can see that there if you zoom in, close to the world trade center. Anyone who has visited may well have been in this neighbourhood. But we are getting very few details. We have one tweet from the manhattan, from the new York Police Department and we are responding to reports of shots fired in Lower Manhattan. More details when they are available. That is all we have at the moment. Of course we will carry on following that. Yesterday we told you about the Financial Planner George Papadopoulos who got mistaken for the trump aid on twitter and he was on the receiving end of some angry tweets. Other users with famous names have been through similar mix ups and they tweeted in solidarity. Singer michael bolton, his tweet, lets just take a look at that. I feel your pain, his tweet, lets just take a look at that. Ifeel your pain, brother. James taylor chimed in, we should record together. And thenjohn ratzenbergerjoined in. Record together. And thenjohn ratzenberger joined in. Can record together. And thenjohn ratzenbergerjoined in. Can we start a support group . I did e mail George Papadopoulos today, he is with his mother in greece and could not come on to speak to us. He sent me a nice e mailandi on to speak to us. He sent me a nice e mail and i replied, on to speak to us. He sent me a nice e mailand i replied, probably on to speak to us. He sent me a nice e mail and i replied, probably the nicest message he has had in the past 24 hours youre having this lovely correspondence. We will see you back here tomorrow. Thankfully halloween weather is quiet in many parts. Particularly for england and wales. Just the odd splash of rain in Northern England. Wetter in northern scotland. And some rain over night in Northern Ireland too. But for many dry with clearer skies in england and wales with some mist and fog patches and into wednesday morning the focus for wet weather will be in scotland. Mainly from the Southern Highlands down to glasgow and edinburgh and the north coast of Northern Ireland. The east coast of scotland will be brighter. England and wales after that morning mist and fog should be fine. More sunshine than today. It should feel warmer. Temperatures up to 15 or 16 celsius. Brighter conditions in the east of scotland. But still wet weather in the south of scotland, linked to this front which will edge southwards, bringing thicker cloud and mist and fog. But a clearer night and cold in scotland. It does mean into thursday, other than this weak front, with a zone of cloud, that will continue to push into the southern parts of england and wales, some rain and drizzle. Much of Northern England and Northern Ireland will have a fine day. Not warm. But you will have the sunshine to compensate. More cloud for all of us into friday. The best of bright skies in the east. Some rain in the north west of scotland and Northern Ireland. And we will see another feature through friday night bringing heavy rain into england and wales. That becomes the dominant feature. But it doesnt stop us from seeing colder air for the weekend. That will push across all parts and bring us a mixed weekend. A weekend full of fireworks for some with sunshine and some showers in the north and west. For all a chilly breeze too. This is bbc news. Im rebecca jones. The headlines at 8pm a woman tells the bbc how a Senior Labour Party figure persuaded her to drop allegations of rape by a party member. A man is found guilty of murdering a former Royal Navy Officer by running him over with his own car. The government proposes reducing the maximum stake on fixed odds betting terminals from £100 tojust £2. British police are investigating multiple sexual abuse allegations, made by seven women, against the american Film Producer harvey weinstein. Also this hour, a father and five children are believed to have been killed in a fire at a farmhouse in mid wales. Three other children escaped the blaze, which broke out in the early hours of monday

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