She is still on a charm offensive, wanting to reach out to them, explaining her florence speech, and i think she is expected to say, i listened to you back in the summer, i listened when you said the negotiations were in trouble, and i reached out to you and did two big things. I talked about how the uk would be willing to have a transitional phase at it leaves, the Prime Minister calls and an implementation phase, and the other thing she is expected to say is i will make a big commitment on finance, to meet the eu budget going up until the end of 2020, for 18 months after the uk leaves the eu. Essentially, what the Prime Minister is saying is not that she has been disappointed with the response, because she has been very charming tonight, but she is going to say, i understand you cannot formally declared today that sufficient progress has been made in the divorce areas, but i do say to you, please can we move on so that we have that declaration inside when the eu leaders meet here again in december . And when she says please can we move on, what will they say . Well, we did have a very interesting start to the summit today when theresa may walked into the venue, flanked by emmanuel macron, the french president , and angela merkel, the german chancellor. They were actually talking about iran, thejoint european position to counter donald trump. That sort of warm reception was in stark contrast to last year, when theresa may sort of was struggling to find friends at the summit. I think it was last december. So what that shows is that eu leaders do want to reach out, they do want to reach an accommodation with theresa may, but publicly they are saying one big thing Prime Minister, who did not go far enough on the finance in florence, and what you do need to do is give us a commitment and reach a framework for how you will deal with the uks past liabilities when it was a member state of the European Union. But my feeling is that european leaders want theresa may to leave this summit tomorrow in a better place than when she arrived today. Angela merkel talking about how she hopes the talks can move on to the future when they meet again in december. I was talking to one veteran figure who was saying they sense that there is something in the air, maybe there will be some sort of language, maybe the European Union will beef up its preparations for the future trade talks, beef up preparations for the transition, so if the declaration is made in december, they can get on with it. If you hear anything more, we will come back to you. Joining me here is labours barry gardiner, whos hot footed it from the eurostar after meeting europes chief negotiator Michel Barnier in brussels, and from brighton, the tory mp maria caulfield. You are literallyjust off the train, impressive performance to get in here did you get the sense, when he talked about something in the air, did you feel there was a change going on . Look, i certainly hope so, and we were there today, jeremy and keir and myself, because we want to see these talks succeed. We are 15 months since the referendum, six months on since the triggering of article 50, and things have got into a logjam, everybody understands that. But it is really important for business, because were coming up to that crunch time injanuary, when businesses will start taking decisions about their supply chains, about their contractors, about their future business relationships, and whether or they relocate. We saw Goldman Sachs today, there have been others, and it is coming to that critical point where we need to see progress, because Business Needs certainty, and at the moment it does not have it. But let us be the fly on the wall, you have met Michel Barnier, when he talks to you and Jeremy Corbyn, there is a Good Relationship withJeremy Corbyn apparently, they have swapped arsenal shirts and the rest of it, what does he say . We heard him stand on the stage and say deadlock, does he really believe that . Obviously, we are not there negotiating, we are not there doing anything other than trying to make sure it. So was just a blank space . Did you get a sense . All i can give you is a sense, because this is a private meeting. If we want to have open and free dialogue and to get a better understanding, and we need that as her majestys official opposition, then we have to respect the parameters of that discussion, but the sense of it is very much that they want to move this on as well, but they do feel that they have to have clarity, and at moment they have not got that clarity about those aspects of the budget and those aspects beyond the commitments that have been made with the eu as a member, and they need that that. It is interesting, when you hear labour getting straight to the hub of things, we can see it from the european point of view, and that is what needs to happen next, are we at that space where theresa may is going to give a bit more . Well, i think theresa may has set out her stall in her lancaster house speech and her florence speech a few weeks ago, exactly what the negotiating position of the uk is. This is how it happens, then we negotiate to come to an agreement, and im very pleased to hear barry, at long last, being quite positive about the progress we are making now in these talks, because it was unfortunate, just a few weeks ago, when labour meps voted against making progress. He is saying that it has stalled. I said that progress had stalled. No, i think progress is being made, and it is unfortunate that labour meps voted against moving on with progress, because that is not very constructive. We need to move forward, make these negotiations work, not just for the uk, but for eu Member States as well, and i am pleased that we seem to be making progress, and i congratulate the Prime Minister on moving things forward. I dont think there is any point in trying to pretend that things are other than they are. Which is what . Stalled negotiations. These are negotiations which should, by now, have been able to move on after the fourth iteration to get to the point where we begin to see the shape of what leaving looks like. We are not there, that is why we are at that crisis point, that is why theresa may made the statement, why she rushed to florence, why she is today there at the summit, trying to push it. This is something your party agrees with, we heard Owen Paterson on the radio, talking about the letter he had sent, welcoming a no deal, saying that is what you have to prepare for, put it on the table. Do you welcome people in york own party going down that route . Absolutely, i mean, ithink you cant go into a negotiation without having a plan b, and none of us wont no deal, the Prime Minister is working towards a good deal for the uk and the eu, but if there isnt an agreement reached and we get to march 2019, you have to have a plan b. Were you offered a chance to sign that letter . Did anyone ask you . I did sign the letter. The no deal letter . You need a no deal option on the table for two reasons, because you might not come to an agreement in time, and, secondly, to go into a negotiation and not have, you know, a fallback position, that weakens your position. Can ijust point out. Sorry, just one last thought here. Normally, of course, in a negotiation, you want the option to be able to say no deal and walk away, because what you are walking away do is the status quo. We have already triggered article 50, we have set the status quo is gone, we are leaving the eu, and when you say no deal, it is not that you go back to what the situation was before. It is one of the options that you are going to be pushed into if you fail to honour the article 50 rules, which is that you have to negotiate a deal within two years, otherwise you are pushed out under wto rules. I know you are staying with us for this labour story. The labour party is facing questions over its party chair, after new details emerged of a string of payments made to ian lavery mp from his former employer, a Mineworkers Union of which he was president. Mr lavery refused to answer questions last year after a newsnight investigation into the money he had received, including one which appears to have wiped his mortgage. After our story, the unions regulator did its own investigation into mr laverys finances. It discovered our findings about the payments he received from the union were right, and it unearthed one or two more. John sweeney revisits the story. My name is ian lavery and im a proud member of theJeremy Corbyn shadow cabinet. Ian lavery is a coming power in the land, Jeremy Corbyns general election coordinator and chairman of the labour party. If the tories fall, hes most likely destined for high office but perhaps for one thing his refusal to answer a simple question asked by bbc newsnight last year. You got the mortgage from the union. Yes. Did you pay it off . The union and myself came to a financial agreement in 2007 with regard to the mortgage, which will remain private between myself and the union. Did you pay off your mortgage . A financial agreement. You havent answered the question, did you pay it off . The answer is no. He didnt pay off his mortgage. Im the most experienced man here. The union of which he was general secretary, the National Union of mineworkers northumberland area, paid it off for him. And paid him much more besides. The reason we now know more about mr laverys funny peculiar mortgage arrangements is that the trade union regulator has looked at the books after investigations by newsnight and the sunday times. The regulator found that the northumberland provenance and Benevolence Fund had lent mr lavery £72,500 to buy a house in 1994. 13 years on, the union mr lavery was running forgave the loan to mr lavery. So, he was £72,500 richer. But theres more. Hed been paying into an Endowment Fund to pay back the capital costs of the house. It had underperformed, but it still paid out £18,000. The regulator found mr lavery kept that, too. The running total £90,500. The regulator found that in 2005 mr lavery sold a 15 stake in his house to the union for £36,000. Eight years later, in 2013, the house was worth less and so he bought the 60 stake back from the union for £27,500, a notional profit of £8,500. The running total, £98,500. And then there is mr laverys redundancy payments. My name is ian lavery and im a proud member of theJeremy Corbyn shadow cabinet. And then there is mr laverys redundancy payments. You might remember this from last year. Mr lavery got redundancy money and that feels odd, because it seems as though he effectively resigned to go and work in that place behind me. The dosh, we think £60,000. But on top of that there is £85,000 paid out to past general secretary redundancy costs. And there is a mystery about who that is. The regulator says that neither mr lavery nor the union could provide documentary evidence of the process or the decision by which mr lavery was made redundant or why, given he was leaving for a job as an mp, he needed any redundancy payments at all. If you add the £89,887 he got for his redundancy package to the £72,500 for the forgiven house loan, to the £18,000 he got from his endowment, that totals £180,387. But then it seems mr lavery and his old union fell out. The union recently realised it had overpaid mr laverys redundancy by £30,600. The regulators report shows that the union asked for it back. Mr lavery disputed £10,600 of it and said he would only give them £15,000. When the regulator asked the union why they settled for this, they simply replied that they were mindful of mr lavery disputing it and the potential legal costs. Mr lavery was adamant that £15,000 was his final offer. We were left with little choice but to accept. So, the grand total of dosh from the union to its one time general secretary has got to be reduced by £15,000, to £165,387. Thats a bob or two in anyones money. A year ago when we first asked our question of mr lavery, Jeremy Corbyn gave him the benefit of the doubt and the parliamentary watchdog cleared him. Mr lavery denies all wrongdoing. But now that we know just how much money he got from the union he used to run, its fair to ask is mr lavery a fit and proper man to be the person who chairs the labour party . We did invite ian lavery tojoin us tonight, but he wasnt available. In a statement, he said that under his stewardship, the union had always complied with the rules and the certification officer had signed off every years transactions. He pointed out that the certification officers report makes clear that no member of the union, past or present, has made a complaint about financial affairs. Mr lavery added, i am pleased that the certification officer has decided to not appoint an inspector or take further action. This report should draw a line under almost two years of allegations and innuendo directed at me and my former colleagues. Barry gardiner is still with me. Just pick up on that question. Is he a fit and proper man to be your Labour Party Chair . Unions are regulated by the certification 0fficer. I have to say, the first i knew about this was on the train back from brussels. My understanding, from what you have shown this evening, and i know this to be the case, unions are regulated by the certification 0fficer. Your report says the certification officer has said there is no reason to make any further investigation and that no complaint from a member has been made. So if the regulator themselves has said. These are old allegations, they cant find the files. But this is where we are. He paid off his mortgage with a fund intended for sick miners. This was the man that run the campaign for the many, not the view. Does that not strike you as rank hypocrisy . I dont know what. You saw that. I saw what your report said. I have no knowledge. It is based on a report that came out today. You say it came from a fund intended for another purpose. Sick miners. I dont know that. You said that is the case. I have no knowledge of that. What i do know, from your report, is that the industry regulator has said that there is not a case to pursue. At that point, does the labour party itself, you at the top, do you step back and say we dont need to investigate this further . Do you feel able to shake ian laverys hand and say, youve done no wrong, youre still in the fold, or will you investigate . I know ian lavery as a really good man and a friend. And this doesnt bother you . Of course, any slur like this, any aspersion that is cast like this, these are serious allegations that you are making. It must make you feel quite uncomfortable . Of course, they should be properly investigated. By the labour party . Because they have been investigated, that is what this report is today. And your own report has said that the proper investigation, conducted by the proper authority, has said that there is no further case to follow. That is what you have said. Not what i am saying. I have to say, and in the past hour i have discovered about this. You saw what the report has confirmed, that he took in terms of the money paid to him. You are the labour party, dont trust our report, then dont trust this report, will the labour party conduct its own investigation . The labour party will obviously want to satisfy itself that no member, and we always satisfy ourselves, that no member of the labour party brings the party into disrepute. That is one of the fundamental principles, whether you are an mp, no matter who you are, the leader of the party or a constituency secretary. It is important that no member of the labour party brings the party into disrepute. What you have said to me is that there was a loan arrangement, as i have understood it from your programme, that there was a loan arrangement. I dont know how that was finalised, but you have told us that the proper regulator for the industry has said that there is no further action to take. We will obviously satisfy ourselves that all of our members are fit and proper people. Thank you very much. Thanks for staying on. Time for viewsnight now. Tonight, the writer james bartholomew, who wrote the book the welfare of nations, on why he believes our welfare state is broken. The board of the Football Association tonight reportedly gave its backing to the organisations leadership after an explosive parliamentary hearing yesterday into the sacked england womens manager mark sampson. The board of the Football Association tonight reportedly gave its backing to the organisations leadership after an explosive parliamentary hearing yesterday into the sacked england womens manager mark sampson. Earlier mp damian collins, chair of the sports select committee, called for the fas bosses to accept responsibility for their failings or leave theirjobs. Yesterdays hearing laid bare not just the allegations of racism but also a murky sense of a cover up the word blackmail was used by the fa chiefs who tried to handle it. Mark sampson was found to have made racially discriminatory remarks to two female players, eni aluko and drew spence. Aluko revealed she had been offered payment to state the fa was not institutionally racist. She refused. Tonight it seems fa chairman greg clark and chief exec martin glenn are safe. But the episode has left a nasty taste. A sporting body seemingly behaving like a grubby mens club. And a culture that appears to accept it. Richard conway reports. Crisis within the fa. As much a part of football, it seems as three oclock kick offs, a half time pie and goal celebrations. Debates about reform are almost as old as the classic kids game subbuteo. It was way back in 1966 that the government of the day commissioned the chester report to see what could be done to modernise english footballs governance. Fast forward to 2017 and that debate about fa reform, well, its still ongoing. Its been amplified in recent weeks by the issues concerning eni aluko and mark sampson, the former england womens manager. Aluko alleges that sampson made racist remarks towards her. Mark sampson was fired by the fa last month for what they claim is an entirely separate matter. Yesterday the fa apologised to eni aluko after an independent barrister ruled mark sampson had indeed made racist remarks towards. It included his fears that a nigerian based family would bring the ebola virus with them to wembley when they paid a visit. Over the course of two and a half hours, the fa attempted to justify to mps their grievance process concerning eni alukos allegations. There certainly were systemic failings historically which contributed to todays mess. But im not here to tell you that this is the fas finest hour. They do not like people scrutinising them. They are very defensive, they are quick to blame and they dont have the basic sort of procedures in place in order to deal with grievances and whistle blowing, and other things like that which most organisations, even small organisations have in place. Thats why i think it needs a clear out. It needs wholesale reform because the culture seems so embedded there, this defensive, protectionist culture, that it doesnt seem like they are able to reform themselves. But what the sports minister today called a sorry saga has a wider resonance. The Players Union now doubts the capability of the fa to deal with serious allegations brought to its attention. There are questions to over a perceived lack of diversity within the fa board and its council, which serves as footballs parliament. The coaching ranks of the National Teams are not immune from such criticism either, despite claims from the fa that its rectifying the imbalance. So, is it time the fa was more reflective of those who play the sport . You look at a group of men, all probably middle aged at best, all white, and it doesnt reflect anything to do with what society in england is and it doesnt reflect anything thats going on on the pitch either. I feel theres got to be women involved, i feel theres got to be people of ethnic minority involved in decision making. Because if theres not, who is going to trust the fa and the people in charge at the moment . I certainly wont. Debate has largely centred today on whether the fas current leadership can continue on. But they are not without support, including voices from within the powerful premier league. Martin has made a real impact in my view. Probably, as an observation, the best chief executive weve had. Its not racist in any way, shape orform, and its not misogynist in any way, shape orform. But its like a big tanker, i think, and difficult to turn around, and it takes time to evolve into something better, which everybody in football wants. But i think they are making good progress. Tonight, the fa board is understood to have discussed the events of recent days and the future of its chairman and chief executive. They are reported to have been unanimously backed. Future reform, then, will need to be driven by the very officials some think are guilty of scoring a spectacular own goal. We did ask the Football Association to join us, but nobody was available. Joining me now the former england striker stan collymore, and anna kestle, chair of women in football, and the sports journalist mihir bose. You heard that last line from peter coates. Its not racist, it is not a misogynist, it is a big tanker. What is your take . I have been looking at a lot of these topics, racism, sexism and homophobia in sport, and many countries are light years ahead of us. Interesting thing about what peter coates said. I was on a flight to south africa for the 2010 world cup and he was sat near me with his fa blazer on, he is one of those people that is a problem. He cant even recognise it from inside . Of course. The reason is simple. There is great work being done at st georges park, the centre, coaching, diversity, leadership. The top tier of management, for me, needs to go. More crucially, the county associations need a massive overhaul. Three years ago i was asked to give evidence. Part of it was this comment. Currently there are 55 county associations. The army, navy, 0xford and cambridge universities, independent schools are all part of the system. Yet large parts of the massive english demographic, the english, asian, black population have no direct representation. We have a 19th century body, with independent schools, the army and navy having a say, but no black or ethnic minority, all women . That is absurd. You would put women in that as well . Women absolutely a minority, they onlyjust have the first ever woman in 150 years and now they have got to add three more to the board. To say it is not institutionally, there was no institutional problem is ridiculous. Women in football have been working for ten years in this field. We constantly receive complaints from women that experienced discrimination in the football industry. When we take them to the fa we are not met with a proper process to investigate the allegations. Time and again we are seeing bungled investigations. It does seem that it is not just the allegations, but that they are dismissed or covered up or paid off. Do you think this is about racism, because with the mark sampson case, you know, you were saying it is racist but he is not racist, is there any difference . I think the problem with mark sampson, and i have interviewed him, he has talked about muslim women in the hijab playing. To banter at that level, you are not a mate of the player, you are in a position of authority. So you think if it is not banter, it becomes racist talk . Particularly if it is a manager talking to a player, the fa problem is that it has a structural problem, it runs the games and judges itself. We need an organisation separate from the fa. If you look at the internal inquiries. So we need the 0fcom. Get rid of the archaic county fa system, have regional sectors that are reflective of the reality of football in 2017. This is a very Old Organisation that does not come up to speed. 0ur cultural, systemic change right now people following this story, what should happen . To the men in charge at the moment . It should not be a revolution, we have had four orfive. Should they resign . They should resign, and we should have a governing body that are the guardians of the english game reflective of the many colours, creeds, ethnicities, sexualities that are part of english football today, which has made Great Strides across the Football Association, and former players, whether it is gary lineker, frank lampard, they do it in germany, they do it in france and in spain, but we treat ex players as if they are thick across the board. Get them involved, they understand the sport. Do you think this is putting women off at the centre of these allegations, or do you think they feel emboldened . No, they dont feel emboldened, look at eni aluko, she complained, when she was ask to give her opinion, she never played for england again, despite winning the golden boot, 102 caps, and she also happens to be a solicitor. The fact that she was able to go to the select committee and prepare these long documents and so on, she was an extraordinary figure able to do that. We know over 60 of women in the experience sexism in the workplace, and less than one in ten reported. That is why, because they see what happens to whistle blowers. Some people will be remembering that you apologise for violence towards women a long time ago, admittedly, but this is part of the culture. No, that was me and my life in that particular time as a player. Not something that has come from. Absolutely not. There have been issues in the game of association football, racism, sexism, homophobia. I take responsibility for my actions. It is time in 2017 for Good Governance at the fa to not make these issues continue, ten, 15 or 20 years after the incident you talked about. You pointed to the fact that no one. It is judge and jury, but this is what happens to a lot of sporting bodies, they dont do root and branch reform. Sport has become very big business, the two people at the centre have both got corporate experience, they have come from corporate governance, but when they come to sport, they still run it as if it was a 19th century organisation. And you cant do that on a salary of £500,000. Absolutely, and at the heart of most sport is a culture of denial, you dont want to admit what has happened, the abuse of footballers and so on, and football doesnt face up to it, and other sports as well. How do you overcome that and make it an organisation which reflects modern society . Thank you all very much indeed for coming in. As we heard earlier on the programme, theresa may is speaking right now at the eu council in brussels, we were hoping to bejoined by former deputy Prime Minister michael heseltine, who was held up in traffic, but i am pleased to say he joins us now. Welcome to the debate, lord heseltine. Thank you if i can just take this for a second, the front page of the times shows david davis drawing up plans for no deal on brexit talks, is that something you thought we would be looking at in october . It is not what the government wanted, and it is what people like me always feared, that, actually, the difficulties and the entrenched positions would lead to this calamitous outcome. Now, it is still possible that it will not happen, that there will be some way through, but every day that goes past, every delay, the delay in the legislative programme in this country, we see we will miss the deadline to move on to the second stage in our discussions. But is it wrong to put thatjust at the door of the uk government . There is holed up by eu leaders, who maybe enjoying seeing britain read up a bit at the end of the line, we have to make contingency plans, simple as that. Yes, but you see there will be an increasing amount of abuse thrown at the europeans. But you have to understand, from the very beginning. It is not abuse, they are saying, there has to be negotiation. I dont think you have been reading the red top press, it is getting personal, bitter and abusive. It has always been like that. That is the weaponry of those papers. But it has no impact on the european view, which is always been the same. You want to leave our club, were not going to allow you to have a deal that suits you at our expense, we are not going to let you have a deal which sets an example. But it is not at their expense. It is, because it threatens the existence of their vision of europe, that is what we are doing. If we create a precedent that others can follow, cherry picking, a la carte dining, then we actually weaken the european concept, and they are not going to lead us do it, and from the very beginning they have made that clear. They set out their conditions we dont like them. We would like to be able to send, in boriss view, have your cake and eat it, but they have made it clear that is not going to happen. The bet is that they need the ukjust as much. Simply not true. When you saw, if you did earlier, Jeremy Corbyn and barry gardiner, who was here, meeting Michel Barnier, getting Something Like a messiahs welcome, do you think he is better placed than your own party leader to be doing these negotiations . No, certainly not. He wouldnt get any better deal, but where he is better placed, and this is the jail, he is better placed to exploit the problems of the government because brexit is going to become more unpopular, and thus the labour party will move to opposition, and that heightens the threat of a corbyn government. Do you like seeing labour boarding the conservative party to account on this . Where are your loyalties . I have spent most of my political career arguing for europe, supporting tory governments that took every big decision in the teeth of the labour party, and it makes me weep, frankly, to see this extraordinary achievement in peacetime europe, the coordination of a warring history now being exploited by the labour party, which did so much to frustrated. Do you feel able to look your party in the face and your leader and say, yes, i am still a committed conservative . Every conservative Prime Minister since churchill argued what i argued theresa may, in april 2016, made a speech that i agree with. It is has not changed, she has. That is her problem, and the problem of the future. The young see a vision crumbling before their eyes. Do you think theresa may will see us through these negotiations . I dont think she will, her time is limited, and the limitation is that the tory party is so divided that they cant see who to put in her place. Michael heseltine, thank you very much for coming in. That is pretty much all we have time for this evening. Theresa may has just sat back down in brussels after giving her speech, and as you saw, i referred briefly to the front page of the times, which has a minister urging a drastic approach, david davis to present a upbeat assessment of no deal, a big shift in britains negotiating strategy. Evan davis will be back tomorrow with analysis of how the speech went down. From all of us here tonight, good night. Good evening. It has been a dismal day for many. Let me show you the rainfall. Some intense rains through the evening. If youre on the Motorway Network at the moment, followed this band of rain across south east england. This band here across scotland now. Hill fog to go with it. Strong and gusty winds. A tree down in the south west of england. A little brightness late in the day. The tree down, or the rain is courtesy of this storm, brian. It is courtesy of this storm, brian. It is the first named or tel zero storm. It will bring widespread gales. Some heavy rains will go through the morning. Missed an fog fought northern ireland, northern england, and scotland. Low cloud across england and wales. It will brighten and dry out through the day. It will improve throughout the day. It will improve throughout the day. A little brighter than we have seen today. But later, brian in the south west. Temperature wise, however, it is fresher than we have had to day. But i think that will be compensated for by a brighter, drier outlook in the afternoon, with some sunshine, even. But despite the winds easing, they pick up tomorrow night. Heavy rain on this weather front whisking through, given the strength of the wind. Most of the wet weather will be in the west. Look at these isobars, so tightly packed. Land gales, severe once nicos. Gusts of wind to 60 or 70 mph. Rough conditions on the sea. The ground will be wet and some trees could come down. It coincides with spring tides. So there will be large and dangerous ways around as well. It looks as if will be a windy all day on saturday. The showers tend to congregate in the north later in the day. The winners will escalate their later as well. The winds. There. Going into sunday, brian, this is the remains, this low pressure appear. That moves away at the winds will ease. Strong and gusty winds threesome showers in the sunday. But again, it isnt spells of dry and bright weather. Particularly in eastern parts of scotland, england and wales. As ever, dont make this the last forecast to see. The warnings the website. The warnings are on the website. Im Sharanjit Leyl in singapore, the headlines the un says as many as 12,000 children are crossing into bangladesh every week, as they flee the violence in myanmar. Iam i am surrounded by babies, children under the age of two months and they are all fighting for their lives. They are severely and acutely malnourished. White house chief of staff john kelly says he is stunned that donald trump has been criticised for the call he made to a military widow. Im Babita Sharma in london. Also in the programme. New zealand has a new Prime Minister, the youngest in 150 years. Helen clark, the former pm of the country, joins us live to talk advice and success at the top