Dozens found in a truck. The lives lost, in limbo, and Holding European leaders accountable for the migrant crisis. In the jurys hands. Awaiting the fate of a former student accused of raping a classmate at a prep school. Plus born to last. The album that made Bruce Springsteen the boss. His former manager talks about the record that changed everything. Ten years ago today, Hurricane Katrina reached category 10 intensity in the gulf of mexico. The white house declared a state of emergency. But few were prepared what would happen days later. More than 1800 people dead, billions of dollars of damage. Ten years later, the big easy still on the mend. Jonathan martin is in new orleans with more. Jonathan. Good evening to you john. President obama took offs his jacket and rolled up his sleeves and walked through the neighborhoods of new orleans. Many wanted to show him their homes and the communities that had come back. But the president gave remarks here in what many considered ground zero of Hurricane Katrina. The lower 9th ward. There were people lining the streets with signs, some that simply said thank you, as overwhelmingly there is the feeling here at least in this community that the president has kept his promises and stood by this city. Rolling up his sleeves as he walked through tremaine neighborhood, president obama walked through crowd eager to show the areas rebuilt after Hurricane Katrina. What you are seeing here is the incredible federal, state, local partnerships that have helped to revitalize this community. Reporter while the president celebrated strides made in the past decade, he acknowledged what everyone can see, there are parts of new orleans that are still struggling. 50 of black men here are still uncan bloid. Unemployed. He vowed to help the city rebuild during his campaign. That he singled us out separated us from the bush administration. Ed shermanac said, across party lines, the president has kept his promises. He can certainly point to the billions of dollars that have been devoted to rebuilding the Flood Control system. That took a lot of work in terms of Convincing Congress to fund that particular project. And the citys new billion Dollar University medical complex celebrated as full scale health care came back to the city built with federal disaster funds. The white house touts the 100 million in federal dollars, rehabilitating the school system, largely Charter Schools. And through the federally funded Road Home Program residents were able to apply for rebuilding grants but Brendan Singleton is one that is finding some issues with the program. They give you 30,000 to build a twostory house. Come on now. And you got to go out and bag a lend tore give you the rest to finish. State senator Karen Carter Peterson said federal help has been critical. If we didnt have the dollars from president obama and the commitment from the department of education from the department of housing and auburn burn deve, we wouldnt have been able to get it done. But theres plenty to help the federal government. The citizens on the ground is what drove the recovery, which pressured federal officials. Even bobby jindal, one of its harshest critics, acknowledged the administration. This is time for us to put aside partisan differences. Weve had help from the state government, the federal government, the local government. The flooding damaged an estimated 70 of the citys housing stock. Today thousands of homes remain abandoned. Part of our goal is always to make sure that not just we recovered from the storm but also we started dealing with some of the structural inequities that existed long before the storm happened. Reporter and so john, while the president again really gave credit today to a lot of the people here in this community really naming people, specific Community Leaders who helped rebuild the city he also as you heard took some time to talk about his administration and how he felt he and other leaders in the federal government have really stood by this city to make it what it is today. It will be interesting to see what kind of response president george w. Bush is expected to get tomorrow, hes expected to visit one of the Charter Schools tomorrow. A lot of the Charter Schools are not excited about his visit. They remember in 2005 the former president flew over the city. Many felt he should have stopped on the ground to talk to the residents. A lot of people felt he didnt make the city a priority, ten years later not a lot excited to see him come back. Jonathan martin, jonathan thank you. The storm left many stranded for days, one marine named jonathan keller, he chose to stay behind to usher many to safety. Stephanie sy talked to him in new orleans. Reporter a marine veteran, john keller, had saw the storms rlg devastation. I saw 30 people in a tree. Keller felt abandoned by his own government. Like youre a second class citizen. He was living at the american can, a sprawling complex which had become an island of stranded residents. Keller sprung into action. Anthony johns turned into mr. Soldier. This is where we evacuate everybody. Some of kellers stories would be almost unbelievable were it not the fact that his cousin chris was taking pictures all the time. It started with keller just keeping order. When there wasnt enough food and water, i swam to the grocery store. He filled coolers full of supplies. I swam and tied those ice chesses to my back. This was in the back of his mind. The night katrina was hit i was on the phone, my mom said, i got ogo i got to go, the roofs being ripped off. The phone went dead, chris said, its going to be all right. I wasnt worried about my mama, i was worried about my grandmother. Was that driving you or keeping you back . She made me stay. What made me stay was. I said my prayer to god. If i take care of these elderly people on the roof you make sure that somebody takes care of my grandmother because shes on the roof. What keller calls his deal with god ended up helping a whole lot of people including liz rodriguez. I think that he is a hero. I think that he stepped up to the plate when we needed somebody there to take charge. One of the first things keller did was to signal to rescue crews that residents needed food and water. But the helicopters didnt drop food. Keller had his own idea why. I said, i hope this is not the case, put all the black people down and put the white people on the roof. If this doesnt work, theyll die in their apartments. And it worked . I. T. Did, quickly, but i was like wow . It wasnt enough, the elderly were running out of medicine. Keller said he didnt think they would make it much longer. He saw some,. I touched the wire, and then i had the another motor and it went boomed and it started up. I said were in business lets get out of here. Keller started shuttling people to a sliver of land. When he ran out much fuel, he siphoned gas from a car. Very grateful liz rodriguez. The gentleman told me hold really tight onto your baby and we were lifted onto the helicopter. John and chris were among the last to leave american can. How is your grandmother . I see her every day. Shi say, ma are you all righ . She says yes im all right. Keller left briefly in san antonio, where he met melissa, the future mother of his son miles. You get all these knowledge and skills and one day, i guess god might want you to put that to the test. And either you accept it or you dont. If i wouldnt have done that, i would have i wouldnt be being blessed right now. He moved back to new orleans and his story is being turned into a hollywood movie. John keller is still writing the ending. Stephanie sy, al jazeera, new orleans. Join us on friday, for the half hour story, katrina. Libyas coast guard said dozens were killed after a boat sank off the mediterranean coast. And, in another location, people thought to be refugees were found dead in a truck. It seems nothing out of the ordinary. A truck parked on the road side near vienna. The driver was nowhere to be seen. They saw blood seeping out of the back. And they were overwhelmed by a terrible smell. Inside, they found the decomposing bodies of people who had been locked in and suffocated. We dont know their country of origin. Even counting them is a slow, gruesome task. Translator how many people were in the truck . At this point in time i cant tell you exactly. We think it will be more than 20 people. It might be 20 to 50 people transported in that truck and all of those people have died. It is very likely they were refugees and highly likely people being trafficked from east to west. The summit was likely dominated by this issue, but its now urgent. We are very shaken by the fact that up to 50 people lost their lives, that criminals did not care about them even though they were on their way to places they thought would be safe. It is an issue to tackle on the issue of solidarity. Today there are more refugees than ever the second world war. The austrian and german chance legislators say they want to move to a quota system, where the European Union commit to taking in refugees according to their economic capability. Angela merkel says this will be fair. But denmark and the u. K. Say they would have notion t nothino with the european refugee quotas. Back in may, at this summit yeur officials call foeu officir protection. These people come to europe for protection. They need europe to protect them and we need to live up to our standards of human rights and respect for International Obligations to protect them. We need a european approach and everybody says so. The leaders also discuss ways of helping balkan countries to cope with the influx of rchtions and for people to stay in their homcountry of urnlg awrnlg. Barnaby phillips. Al jazeera. Might be easy to lose sight of the suffering. Photo essay, to personalize their plight. A crying boy, cradling another in the waters off of greece. They are from syria. They have endured a world of suffering and yet they may be the lucky ones. Here a face among the faceless. A child peers out from under barbed wire from hungary and serbia, her fate is unknown. Desperate for better lives they are helpless and preyed upon. Many end up caged and confined in european detefntion centers. Detention centers. Many dont make it home. Only to escape the turmoil in their home land and they keep coming by sea by land by any way possible. Refugees have hopes and names. These people do. And so did those found dead in the back of a truck in austria. Sarah crow is a crisis communication chief for unicef, the United Nations childrens fund. Shes in our studio. Welcome. What about the children and where does the effort to help them stand right now . Just today we found information from our people in gevalia where we have a small operation there to support the children particularly when their parents are being processed through this very traumatic experience. What were seeing now, never mind where they came from before, some of these children endured incredibly tough journeys. Talk about what theyve seen what they have been through. Unicef colleagues on the ground said children wouldnt talk about their war experiences. They were given play things and trying to draw and be normal children again and thats what they the said, they wanted to be normal children again. 3,000 people coming through every day through former yugoslav republic of macedonia. They can only stay there for 72 hours. The laws in place need to be strengthened. There are strong existing laws. Once you start looking at this from the childs perspective i think you start changing their view on how they should be treated. Families moving together right . Majority of families moving together. 30 are women and children. So this is what were starting to see, a new pattern. Those that take the boats tend to be single men but the majority of those that are coming through now into the cis areas, former yugoslav republic of macedonia and then hungary and serbia, the majority we have just the latest figures there from our colleagues and those are syrians. So if there was peace in syria they wouldnt be coming in. What can turn this around . People want to donate, want to help, but its much bigger than that isnt it . It is. You heard it earlier from Angela Merkel and others, saying this is something of an unprecedented crisis since the second world war. That it can be done in a humane way if refugees are properly processed and children particularly are given what they need. That means their rights are safeguarded. Theyre given some basic sanitation, health, basic education measures, these kinds of things that all these countries have signed up to, these laws are in place and its really about implementing them. But many of these countries do need support. Its unprecedented and they need support. Which means you know experts coming in from other parts of europe who have the expertise, who have the ability to help process refugees. Sarah, good to see you, thank you for all you do. Thank you. Bill froelich is in washington, d. C, tonight. Lets talk a little bit about, can you give us a sense about how europe needs to approach this . Well, europe actually has mechanisms that are in place. As your previous speaker was saying. They settle up systems, called a common european asylum system long before there was a crisis. This supposed system harmonizes all of the systems and standards for the treatment of refugees and asylum speakers. They should have the same conditions if all of that is set up, then why isnt it working . When the crisis hits it becomes each man for himself and they have a temporary protection directive that threaf completely ignored and now what we say is the response of putting up barbed wire fences putting more police on borders, using tear gas, stun guns, what have you. And its not thoughtful. And i do appreciate that chancellor merkel is actually speaking in a very reasonable way about the steps that the eu is to be taking. Right. But this has been going on for months and its really been ad hoc and crisisdriven in ways that are not responsible and not reasonable. You say every man for himself. Every country for itself. Everybody, every country is not as wealthy as germany. So how the system that theyve set up is one that takes that into account. And takes care of everyone. Is look at setting up quotas that are based on the capacity of states to meet the needs. And so its based on gdp. Its based on population of ratios. Its not simply you know taking numbers per se and when they had a relocation scheme that they were only proposing to relocate 40,000 people over a twoyear period, this is a couple of months ago. And they couldnt even meet that goal because a number of the countries just folded their arms and said theyd have nothing to do with it. And now of course that figure 40,000 looks ridiculously small. Right. In the month of july alone 50,000 new arrivals came into greece. A week ago there were 20,000 that came into greece in a single week. Its not just syria lets be clear, other countries have tried to take in syrians, the biggest crisis since world war ii, i asked this question last week, had the world failed . Why did it take us so long to Pay Attention . Well, certainly we failed, i mean theres been a diplomatic failure to address the root causes of this massive displacement. So the situation not just the one in syria, that has produced four and a half million refugees in the immediate region and double that number of internally displaced people but when you look at three decades of failed states in afghanistan, somalia, these countries are continuing to produce very large numbers of refugees. And those situations continue unabated. Bill, its good to have you on the program. Thank you very much. Coming up next, a migrant crisis here in the united states. We began to find bodies in biohazard bags. When i say trash bags, black garbage bags, white garbage bags that have ties on the top. That you use in your kitchen every day. Tracking down migrants. Migrants. Its known as the valley of death. A strip of land near texasmexico border where migrants try to make their way illegally on foot. Its a life or death journey and despite a decrease in migrant traffic the bodies continue to be found. Heidi zhoucastro is in texas. Heidi. Imagine a jet liner crashing in this area every four years. That just puts into perspective. These are migrants who are either left behind or lost in this vast expanse of land. And we warn you the images you are about to see are graphic. Its 105. And hidden in these 950 square miles of brush land, the local sheriff estimates are some 150 migrants. Walking their way north. In hopes of reaching the american dream. On a recent trip to Brooks County, we find three men drawn to us by their thirst. Do we have any more water . I dont think so. This man says hes 20 and from mexico. They had started the 30some mile walk as a group of 12 but scattered when Border Patrol approached. Theres no telling now how many are lost. This is what happens when theyre out there for a while. The Brooks CountySheriffs Office has recovered about 500 bodies since 2009. 31 just this year. They were the victims of dehydration. Animals. And the ruthlessness of human smugglers who leave them behind. The coyote, they leave them behind. If they get sick or whatever the case may be, they already paid and theyre going to move on. The end result is us having to recover a body. Though horrific, the situation doesnt stop here. The Brooks County coroner is the site of unrecovered bodies. 3,000 bodies have been buried here over the last six years, without a name and due to lack of county resources, without dna samples taken. If not for a group of students from Baylor University volunteered to exhume the bodies and bring them back to the schools forensic lab in waco. We began to find bodies in biohazard gagz, when i say trash bags, black or white plastic bags. Babies, infants, toddlers. That would be enough to motivate people to say hey we have to do something about this, this is wrong. Reporter 160 sets of human remains are now under the care of anthropology professor laurie baker. You can say this is a huge huge number of individuals. Last week there was a wedding ring found in the seam of a pair of pants. And you know im sure that person knew they would be robbed if they wore it but it was special and they wanted to have it here. That same person had, in mexico, bought this little lion im assuming for a small child back home. The goal to give each body a story. And a name. We loved them. We think of them as people. We treat them with respect, we remember where they came from and that everyone is associated with a family thats grieving. But locating someone is not easy. It requires a positive dna match and without effort to collect samples from the families that are missing, theres little for investigators to work with. Of those 160 sets of remains on the shelves only three have been identified. What we tell ourselves is it only takes one. We are in it for the long haul. This may take us my entire life to get more identifications but thats what were going to continue to do. Meanwhile those migrants journeying through the texas brush have little idea of the life threatening risk they now take. Most are fed lies by smugglers saying only ashort walk is what they would face. I asked these migrants if they are scared they could die here then they say no. Then they politely excuse themselves to continue their walk. And john, perhaps the saddest part of all this is weve known about this problem for years. Yet it continues to happen and theres bodies showing up every month, especially now in the hottest months of the year. Those that county is bracing for more deaths. John. Heidi, thank you very much. Coming up next, mass shootings, the virginia journalists the latest victims. And new orleans photographer acre waters, his home town and the pieces gone forever. Hi everyone this is al jazeera america. Im john siegenthaler. Gun control, new calls from the family of a virginia victim and the white house. Were going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this. Will it make any difference . Seeking closure. Final arguments in the prep school rape case, and tougher questions about power, privilege, and americas youth. Lasting impression. Capturing the faces of new orleans, after the storm. Its just a sense of loss that, you know, coming to grips with. The mission of one photographer still exiled from his home town ten years later. Plus, born to run. The swagger and the swing turns 40. This album really transformed all of us. Springsteens former manager on the album that redefined rock n roll. Tonight in virginia, a vigil is being held for the tv reporter and cameraman gunned down by a gunman, Alison Parker and adam ward. Some are calling for more stricter gun control can including alisons father. Im going to do everything i can that people remember her that we dont have another newtown, that we dont have another Movie Theater shooting, that we dont have another charleston. The politicians have got to stand up to the nra and close some of these loopholes so that crazy people dont get guns. And photographer adam wards fiancee, she says the shooting has turned her life upside down. President obama called the murders in virginia heartbreaking and another tragic example of why stronger gun control laws are needed. To many those words have an all too familiar ring. Mike viqueria reports. Reporter its an all too familiar role. After each is mass murder president obama shows his rage and resolve. After te tucson. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. After aurora. Such violence, such evil is senseless. There was resolve but resignation. I say that recognizing the politics in this town. Foreclose a lot of those avenues right now. The president all but conceded gun control cant pass congress. The statement was met with outrage by advocates of new restrictions and many mr. Obama quickly backed off but he has admitted getting new gun control is beyond his reach as president. If you ask me where is the one area where i feel that ive been most frustrated an most sometime meed me sometime edt america is the one most are advanced country in the world where we dont have common sense gun laws. In december of 2012 came the unthinkable horror of newtown. 26 people including 20 children massacred by a man with a semi automatic rifle. It was one incident that would finally many felt, Push Congress to act. What if when adam lanza started shooting his way into sandy hook elementary, last friday he would have been confronted by qualified security . In congress the push for new restrictions collapsed. In the wake of wednesdays graphic on air murders of a young tv reporter and cameraman mr. Obama says his heart breaks after every such shooting. What we know is that the number of people who die from gunrelated incidents around this country dwarves any deaths that happen through terrorism. The president wants what he calls common sense reform. But Public Opinion appears to be turning against more gun control. According to pew research for much of the last two decades most americans thought it was more important to control gun ownership than to protect gun owners rights, but in a pom last decembea polllast december thatn flipped. 52 to 46 . Not everyone is pie buying it. Colin goddard is a survivor of a gun attack. Despite the edit feats in washington he said the tide is turning at the state and local level. Weve seen a lot of activity in the past few years, promoting good gun policy and defeating efforts to repeal the basic gun rights we have in place. Reporter but even advocates like goddard admit, new gun laws in congress arent going to pass any time soon. Mike viqueria, al jazeera, washington. Richard aborn is president of the Citizens Crime Commission of new york city, an organization focused on criminal justice and public safety. He was a key strategist, of the brady bill. Richard always great to have you in the studio. Happy to be here. Has congress made a priority out of protecting gun rights in america . Congress has made a priority out of not passing any gun control laws. Let me take your question and show what the problem is. Your question assumes theres an inconsistency between protecting gun rights and passing gun control laws and theres not. Thats the sad thing about this debate. We have lost notion of the fact that we could have an adequate regime in this country to control the illegal distribution of guns and control those from getting guns while still completely protecting the right of a law abiding citizen to get a gun, to hunt and have it for peaceful means. They maintain the they have to maintain their Grass Roots Organization they have got their membership inflamed by the false notion that we want to ban all guns. The only reason they say that is they cannot argue with us on the grounds of reasonableness. They reach this argument that that we want to ban all guns. It is working. It is working. We have lost some of the voter intensity because gun crime notwithstanding what is going on, has been coming down year after year, and the n ra has perpetrate they had lie year after year after year that we want to ban alt guns. We need to push back on all fronts. We need to make sure that americans understand that its inexcusable that this country has so many begin violence. We have a culture of guns, too many illegal guns it is more than that though. We are talking about gun free zones, were talking about gun zones at colleges, were talking about state institutions where students teachers, professors will be able to carry guns now. We have a culture of guns. Moving in an entirety different direction than countrys ever moved away from gun control in a big way. We are at a standstill at the gun control debate, no question about that. We have never been able to pass anything for years. Open carry, Walking Around with uzis. At the state level. Lets not confuse the primary issue. The primary issue is not stopping law abiding citizens from getting guns. The primary issue is stopping criminals and those with Mental Health issues from getting guns. When you keep those two questions separate youre talking about purely if youre going to change this you have to figure out another way to frame it . You have to be directly honest with the American People in an in say says in cessant wa. I would wonder had a the nra is going to say. Theyre going to say aborn and his group wants to ban all guns. But theyre not going to argue that there should be assault weapons, large magazines out there gawns had carry 30, 64 rounds, theyre not going to argue about that, theyre going to go to this other argument and we need to push back hard against that in a consistent way and get that voter intensity back that we once had. Richard thank you for coming. A shooting death of a nineyearold girl, jamilla bowden was shot on her mothers lap doing homework. Booked on several charges, ordered to be held on a 75,000 bond. Today, the person responsible for the shooting death of nineyearold jamilla bowden and the shooting of her mother has been taken into custody and yes, confessed to shooting into the home. While this does not replace the familys loss, the apprehension of this suspect brings some sense of conciliation that justice will be served. Brown was reportedly on probation at the time of the shooting. Investigators declined to talk about a possible motive. In New Hampshire now Closing Arguments in a kay of alleged rape at an elite prep school. Owen lebree, the student accused of swealz assaulting sexually a 15yearold girl. Courtney kealy has the story. For months before the senior salute he knew what he wanted and this was the night he was going to get it. In his Closing Argument prosecutor said owen lebree then 18 years old planned the rape. He brought a condom and a blanks to the campus building he and the girl agreed to meet two days before. He had to use tactics, had to confuse and manipulate a 15yearold girl. Lebree took the stand, the only witness his lawyer called. Did you do anything to. No. He liked the accuser and she liked him. And you wanted to have sex with her, correct . I dont know what you mean. You dont know what i mean when i say you wanted to have sex with her . When . Your word. You were interest, you wanted to sway her correct . Um yes, i was fond of her. When lebrees accuser took the stand she said she froze when the events went beyond what she imagined. Why were you afraid . I was raped. Both the detectives and the jury when she said she didnt recall telling her best friend about the sex act she was prepared to perform on lebre rvetion. Im not saying that he is a saint. He is not a saint. Hes a teenager. But i submit he told you true. The case has once again focused the attention of Sexual Assault on campus and forced the elite st. Pauls bordering school in New Hampshire. These are indeed allegations and not proven facts and the judicial system will weigh them and determine how this case is ultimately resolved. We will move past this as a School Community stronger united and committed as always to ensuring our students safety and wellbeing. Courtney kealy, al jazeera. More on the legacy of Hurricane Katrina. We are now where photographer eric walters spet spent a lifee capturing the beat of the city. Hes been fighting ever since to get back. Street photographer eric waters last lived in new orleans for ten years but hed rather be living here. Total destruction. Photographs all over the place. All my slides, colder water, you know. Negatives. Hard drives. Cds. Katrina left his family home under water so he went to live with friends in atlanta. It is a sense of loss ive been coming to grips with. You know how you going to equate your loss when so many other people have a story of loss. Waters says he paid a contractor 135,000 to repair his home. But the builder took off with his checks. Leaving him stuck in georgia, stripping him of part of the very essence of who he is. While his home town was ca chand foster. If you look at the white populacesize its back and going to get better. If you look into my eyes, a person who appreciates the culture and having been born and raised in new orleans, lived through civil rights movement, jim crow and all that, no its not coming back. Eric waters has been documenting new orleans culture from mardi gras indians, jazz musicians and street plight for decades. 1 u. N. 50,000 miles back and fort from atlanta to new orleans, capturing the faces of people and the city he loves. May i take some photos please . And ive been photographing, how long have i been photographing you even before katrina right . Me . Long before katrina. God yes. Uhhuh. Shes my favorite subject. You walk down any street in new orleans for example its august. Its humid. You hear the bugs. You do. You have people all over. Noises everywhere. Visuals everywhere. And to think that ten years ago, so much of this was underwater, there was death, there was tragedy. Whats the legacy of this storm . Change. And the story still has to be written. And how the change is going to affect what new orleans was, what its going to become. Its evolving as we speak now. Theres gentrification of course. Since katrina, tourism has rebounded. A thriving medical and Tech Community have moved in. But for waters, so many neighborhoods have been ignored and homelessness is everywhere. We experienced it whether we visited waters home. Do you have a place to live . No, im homeless. Ill make you a home here. Theres a lot of work to be done. The floors are buckling. Theres frame up. Whats going on . Frustrations. But you learn to deal with things when youve been through so much. You know, youre not accepting of it but you deal with it. What else are you going to do . When the levees broke for now, waters plans to keep driving from atlanta to new orleans. Until he can come up with the money to rebuild. Heart and soul goes on. The people that keep the culture alive, its the people from the street. Not the aristocrats. But the people. Join us for our half hour special, katrina, after the storm, begins at 8 30 eastern time. World leaders are meeting in mexico how to fight the growing problem around the globe, trade in illegal arms. Antonio mora last the story. Antonio. Gathering in cancun, mexico after an International Trade treaty went into the effect. The issue was to regulate the flow of weapons around the world. Its a multimillion dollar business and many agree it needs to be reined in. Organized crime or those who want to violate human rights, its important progress. Mex seemexico sees countlessf violence. How the u. S. Signed the treaty john but has yet to ratify it. A story that doesnt get talked about very often. Well see you next hour. Up next. We were in uncharted waters. There was no precedent for Bruce Springsteens born to run. His career on the line. How springsteen created his masterpiece. My conversation with his former manager who saw it all. Ill have two or three puffs and ill already have a nicotine buzz. This week, Bruce Springsteens epic careerdefining album born to run turns 50. He met a new york music producer named mike apel who would become his manager. I sat down with apel, to talk about born to run and allow their relationship got started. Had you ever heard of Bruce Springsteen . No, not at all. Im a long island boy, brookville all my life and bruce is down the jersey shore, the twain shall never meet. He came up to the office and played two uneventful songs and i said well i dont know what you expect to get from this but you know theres nothing here youre going to have to write more songs if you want an album deal. You do want an album deal dont you . He says yes i do. Ill go back to california and visit my parents for christmas and ill write more songs. I thought that was it. Then a couple of months later, secretary calls me to the phone says hey, there is this guy Bruce Springsteen on the telephone. I said i dont know any Bruce Springsteen. I absolutely forgot about his name. I kept saying i dont know him, i wouldnt tell you if i did know him. He finally says im the guy that was with tinker, tell him that. I said okay, i picked up the phone. Almost lost him forever but i picked up the phone and said okay, you got those songs yes i got those songs, come up tomorrow, ill be there boom. I sat down with him, he started to play songs that we were not ready for. The lyrics were different from the first time. Oh, he had been anointed 50 gods. Okay . Between the time i last saw him and this particular time. When youre blown away by an artist you want to do what . You want to sign him immediately and get him on a record label and make a lot of money if you can. Which is what you tried to do. Which is exactly what i did do. You produced a couple of records and they didnt go as well as youd hoped. No, no. What pressure was it to produce a great record when it came to born to run. Everybody in his band was counting on him. Everybody said he was great, but he still hadnt produced a hit record right . You are a big snish in a fisl pond and now you have to prove that youre a big fish in a big pond and thats when born to run happened. How long did it take to record the track . Six months to write it and six months to record the damn track. Born in the u. S. A. How did he come into the area of the greats . The pantheon of the greats . Name me an artist in the world who plays three or four hours a night at his age and last been doing it for 40 years, four decades . You know, theres nobody like him and theres not going to be another one like him. We look forward to many more songs from Bruce Springsteen. Thanks for sharing your stories, really appreciate it, great to have you. Thanks for having me. Thats our broadcast. Thank you. Thank you. Truck tragedy. These people come to europe, and come to europe for protection. Dozens more refugees found dead, this time in an abandoned truck, while european leaders met to debate the immigrant influx still missing. We are in this country in honour of every one of them 500 days later